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Speaker 1: Here comes Blue Jay's closer, Jeff Hoffman, joining us right

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Speaker 1: now on FT Jeff, thanks for joining us busy times,

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Speaker 1: and congrats on cracking the alcs. How has life been

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Speaker 1: over the last forty eight hours to celebrate slash prepare.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a little bit of recovery.

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Speaker 3: We uh we got after a little bit on the

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Speaker 3: on the flight home and the celebration and everything. So

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Speaker 3: we got a good day of rest yesterday and back

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Speaker 4: Would you wish the flight was longer? Based on the

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Speaker 4: good time that you guys were having. Sometimes the good

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Speaker 4: times those flights like can we like, can we circle

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Speaker 4: a little bit? I don't need no turbulence or nothing,

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Speaker 4: but can we circle a little bit?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Those are the ones where you kind of hope that

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we uh we.

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Speaker 3: We only had a quick one, but we got the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you kind of answered my question. I saw you,

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Speaker 5: you know, forty eight hours ago, and you were kind

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Speaker 5: of right at that tipping point of like you were

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Speaker 5: still there, You're still coherent, but you came out saw

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Speaker 5: you guys were getting after it. But I guess my

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Speaker 5: question to you is, obviously you played in an amazing

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Speaker 5: losing to you guys when I was the Atlanta Braves.

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Speaker 5: I know how crazy that fan base can be, on

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Speaker 5: in Toronto. What that experience was like with the fans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unbelievable, from the anthems all the way through the end.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's the amazing you know, feeling what you

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Speaker 3: group and they all they all really kind of show

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Speaker 3: we feel the support every single night. And yeah, they

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Speaker 4: Do you feel like the fans have kind of grown

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Speaker 4: but throughout this season, like when it start getting nice

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Speaker 4: a sudden, now it's packed every single Friday night, stupid

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Speaker 4: day game, Saturday, stupid day game, Sunday. Do you feel

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Speaker 4: like they've grown with you guys, and then like that

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean as as the summer went on, we definitely

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Speaker 3: we definitely you know, feed off that, and uh, it

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Speaker 3: And that's what we are as a group, great product.

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Speaker 3: And and we play together and we played a win

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Speaker 3: every single night, and and we definitely feed off the

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Speaker 2: Of the crowds.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I was gonna ask you. Playing against you in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 5: had always felt like that team was really really tight,

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Speaker 5: and I'm sure they were, but I get a sense

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean I I say it all the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is what it feels like.

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Speaker 3: This is what it's supposed to feel like to play

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Speaker 2: This, Uh, you know, we're good because we're tight.

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Speaker 3: We're you know, everybody spending the maximum amount of time

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Speaker 4: The post is a time when everything's amped up. When

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Speaker 4: And how much of that because then we saw that

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Speaker 4: you guys played New York, New York after after my

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's it's pure emotion, you know. I

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Speaker 3: playing and that that, you know, means everything to us.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean all the New York, New York stuff, that's, uh,

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Speaker 3: I was just us kind of letting loose and you know,

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Speaker 2: And you know, after that night, we kind of set

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Speaker 4: All right, you got the last out of that game,

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Speaker 4: and I have to I have to remember back to

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Speaker 4: like catching the last out, or like meeting my pitcher

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Speaker 4: part way, and I watched Kirk come out to you

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Speaker 4: and you guys pounded whatever you guys did. If there's

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Speaker 2: Nah, I want him doing the jump in. I got him,

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Speaker 3: We're uh, we're really looking forward to that. And I

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Speaker 3: hope there's a I hope there's the opportunity to do that,

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Speaker 3: and uh yeah, I'll have to. Uh, I have to

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I want to just kind of go back in time.

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Speaker 5: Obviously drafted by the Toronto Blue Jays a couple of

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Speaker 5: of full circle moment that you've had to be drafted

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Speaker 5: go on a couple other places throughout your career. Now

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Speaker 5: coming back home to Toronto and now closing out games to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an amazing uh full circle when you think

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Speaker 3: So we come to play every night with that in mind,

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Speaker 4: Later on, we're going to ask you about picking up teammates,

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Speaker 4: ask you about picking up your teammate Louis Varlin. The

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think everybody, you know, everybody who

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Speaker 2: That's what makes him in the world.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was just one of those things where

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Speaker 5: Yeah, speaking of stuff, you've always had the stuff. I

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Speaker 1: It's fun pitch to watch. Your team's super fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Jet thanks for joining us, but we appreciate the stop by.

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Speaker 1: Good luck the next round. Man, oh, thank you. Thanks

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