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Speaker 1: It felt like last night. But congrats to the Bailor

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Speaker 1: great season comes up. Just short final hour, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to the Alabama head coach, Nick Saban, get his thoughts

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Speaker 1: on Mac Jones. What does Nick Saban do during his

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Speaker 1: Saturday in May, the one hundred forty seventh running for

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Speaker 1: the Roses Saturday May first on NBC. I was watching

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Speaker 1: the Rangers game yesterday just to hear natural crowd noise,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm watching and listening like last year

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Speaker 1: hearing the crowd and it's just a little bit of

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Speaker 1: background noise. But it really helped with the game, like

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Speaker 1: it enhanced it. I just felt like I was leaning

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Speaker 1: to dial us up our poll question for the final hour, McLevin.

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Speaker 1: I had a good time watching baseball last night. My

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Speaker 1: Phillies are playing Jacob to Gram and the Mets, and

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Speaker 1: they couldn't put a bat on Jacob to Gram for

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Speaker 1: six nings, scoreless. The Mets pull them and guess what happened?

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Speaker 1: They lose. Here you go, most picture wins lost by

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Speaker 1: a bullpen, so a ball since twenty fourteen, you have

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Speaker 1: to have five innings pitched and then you leave the

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Speaker 1: game with the lead and you don't get a win.

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Speaker 1: Jacob deGrom. This has happened to Jacob deGrom thirty one

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Speaker 1: times where he's left the game after five innings or

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Speaker 1: more with the lead and the bullpen failed. That's an

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Speaker 1: incredible stat. I mean, his ERA since twenty eighteen is

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Speaker 1: two point zero seven. The Mets bullpen is six point

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Speaker 1: one six ERA in de Gram's start starts. That's the

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Speaker 1: highest friendie pitcher. His ERA since twenty eighteen is two

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Speaker 1: point zero seven. Next closest is Justin Verlander two point

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Speaker 1: five six, and then bullpen doesn't come to the rescue.

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Speaker 1: The ERA is six point one six in his starts

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Speaker 1: thirty first time in Jacob Dagram's career the bullpen blew

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Speaker 1: a win for him. Wow, yeah, man, you guys suck. Like,

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Speaker 1: how do you when you say to the bullpen or

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Speaker 1: and you just kind of lower your head, You just

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Speaker 1: Do you think they should tell the Mets of someone

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Speaker 1: this isn't a trend anymore, right, It's I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: not like a fluke anymore. Do you think it's like

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Speaker 1: There has to be something to it. It's not a

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Speaker 1: coincidence anymore. It's a four year trend. Yeah, yeah, mclovin.

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Speaker 1: And there's one other player I noticed last night, your

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Speaker 1: start are you? He was under eight strikeouts, no runs allowed,

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Speaker 1: and they have this guy who throws that seems unfair. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of those seasons. Yeah, but his numbers, you're like a

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Speaker 1: ten winds pitcher. Why does he get the site? It's

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Speaker 1: just he's so dominant, he just doesn't have victories. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mcclub is baseball slightly going to regret deadening the ball

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Speaker 1: just got engaged, and I can't remember him looking happier

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Speaker 1: I'm on Jeopardy, I'm engaged, and he feels like he's

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's there after next season. Maybe he is,

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Speaker 1: shocked if Aaron Ers is in green Bay after next season.

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Speaker 1: But now green Bay didn't know what was happening here.

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Speaker 1: I think green Bay was prepared for the eventual, you know,

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Speaker 1: fall off the ledge Aaron Rodgers, and then he won

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Speaker 1: actually think that Green Bay did this as a preemptive

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Speaker 1: strike to light of fire under Aaron Rodgers should have

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Speaker 1: to turn in their media credentials because why not draft

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Speaker 1: a quarterback this year? Get him fired up again? I

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Speaker 1: just draft quarterback every year, Gotta get him fired up.

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs better do that for Patrick Mahomes. Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: But well, can he do both? Yes? Do I think

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Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers wants to do both? I do. I

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Speaker 1: Not boy, that guy knows all the answers, because Alex

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Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers is capable of doing that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Alex had a great bedside manner when when a person

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Speaker 1: but he would he wouldn't. He didn't. He didn't pile on.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had that where it was a little

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Speaker 1: I'm still amaze again how they all have the best

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Speaker 1: funny when he basically told you that his life wasn't

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Speaker 1: about your family. I've been trapped in a loveless marriage

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Speaker 1: them invite me every year, and you know, we we

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Speaker 1: you know, I enjoy it. I enjoy it. That's probably

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite things to do. Do you listen

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Speaker 1: to your caddy? Yeah? Absolutely. I don't think you can

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Speaker 1: play though if you don't, I know, not on the

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Speaker 1: greens at least. I mean, it's ridiculous. I try to

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Speaker 1: tell people that whatever you see on TV, it is

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Speaker 1: nothing like that in person, because there's so many mounds

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Speaker 1: in the undulated undulation of the green, like it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And I had a caddy tell me, hey, don't ask

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Speaker 1: any questions. I'm gonna tell you where to put it,

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Speaker 1: and you put it right there. And I listened to

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Speaker 1: him and probably saved ten shots, no question, if you

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Speaker 1: didn't have somebody telling you, I mean, I can't figure

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Speaker 1: it out. I mean maybe other people can figure it out.

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Speaker 1: And I'm so pro guys can figure it out. But man,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. There's elephants very and some of

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Speaker 1: them greens. It's ridiculous. He's Nick Saban. Of all the

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Speaker 1: places that that you know you play golf, I mean

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Speaker 1: to me, that's the one place you know. I'm the

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Speaker 1: kind of golfer that just I'm happy to hit it

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Speaker 1: on the green, But hitting on the green there in

444
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Speaker 1: the wrong place is you might be better off hitting

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Speaker 1: the sand travel He's Nick Sabing, the Alabama head coach.

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Speaker 1: What is your role or was your role at a

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Speaker 1: pro day? Really not much of anything, you know. I

448
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Speaker 1: get asked questions by a few guys mostly that I know,

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Speaker 1: which is quite a few guys in the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: know that I worked with when I was in the HL,

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Speaker 1: and I know watched the players encourage him, usually do

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Speaker 1: a little something for the media, but it's very minimal

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Speaker 1: route the players hope they do well. Try to encourage

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Speaker 1: them to do the right things relative to now. I

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Speaker 1: was on the other side being a pro coach for

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Speaker 1: a year, So I really try to encourage our guys

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Speaker 1: to know that, you know, working for him, cooperating with them,

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Speaker 1: these are the things that create value for you. Now.

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Speaker 1: Refusing to do anything doesn't create value for you. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I just I always tell guys you don't

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Speaker 1: want to give anybody the reason to say. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I used to listen for that word all the time

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Speaker 1: in the draft report, and as soon as it came up,

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Speaker 1: nothing year that ever came after it. And I said, so,

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Speaker 1: the choices and decisions you make don't don't give anybody

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Speaker 1: a reason to say. But they're looking for reasons not

467
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Speaker 1: to pick you, right, they're trying to sign. Is there

468
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Speaker 1: any flaws, Is there's something wrong with you that don't

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Speaker 1: don't give them any reasons for that. And you've got

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Speaker 1: to cooperate to be able to do that. What did

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Speaker 1: you tell Kyle Shanahan about Matt Jones. He didn't ask

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Speaker 1: me a thing, didn't ask me a thing. I said

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Speaker 1: Hi to him, John Lynch too. Um, they did not

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Speaker 1: ask me a thing about them. They didn't ask me

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Speaker 1: a thing. Maybe they thought they weren't allowed to because

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Speaker 1: you know, out there on the pro day floor, which

477
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Speaker 1: is where I saw them. You know, I think that

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Speaker 1: they I don't know all their rules, but I think

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Speaker 1: their rules they're not really allowed to talk to me. Um,

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Speaker 1: so you know, I stood by Belichick. We didn't talk.

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Speaker 1: But um, so you know, I don't know what their

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Speaker 1: rules are. And I don't know what the reason for

483
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Speaker 1: some of their rules are, but there's where it is. Wait,

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Speaker 1: so you stand next to Belichick, but you guys don't talk,

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Speaker 1: and you guys are great friends. Dan, Well, we talked

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Speaker 1: a little bit before, you know, I mean whether by

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Speaker 1: phone or whatever. We always talked about whatever we need

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Speaker 1: to talk. What was you know here? When was his

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Speaker 1: secretary in Cleveland my secretary now or my assistant and

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Speaker 1: so he always comes up and says a lot to her,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it's that's that's kind of lifelong. When

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Speaker 1: did you know mac Jones was something different? Considering we

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Speaker 1: thought he was going to Kentucky. He was a three

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Speaker 1: star recruit. You had two of there. But was there

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Speaker 1: a moment where you go, there's something different here, because

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Speaker 1: it feels like the NFL on these scouts kind of

497
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Speaker 1: stumbled upon him the last couple of weeks here. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people got inderstood by

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Speaker 1: the way he played last year. I mean, he did

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal job. I mean we had really good players

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Speaker 1: around them, no doubt, A couple of really good receivers,

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Speaker 1: you know, good, a couple of good rundbacks, really good

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Speaker 1: offensive line. But Max released intelligent, very smart, very accurate

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Speaker 1: with the ball, and makes good decisions about where he

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Speaker 1: goes the ball. So that that's a really good started

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Speaker 1: starting point for a guy being a good quarterback. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can go on all these measurables and arm strength

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Speaker 1: and all that, but that really doesn't make you a

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Speaker 1: good quarterback. And you know, guys like Aaron Rodgers, who

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Speaker 1: I was at Miami when Aaron Rodgers came out, and

511
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Speaker 1: you know, his coach told me that's how he was,

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Speaker 1: and in a workout he was probably not that much

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Speaker 1: more impressive than you know, somebody else. But those instinctive

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Speaker 1: intangibles that a quarterback hands or you know, invaluable to

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Speaker 1: being successful at the position. And I think that's why

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Speaker 1: that's so hard to evaluate. And I think that's why

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Speaker 1: that's the number one failure position in the draft is

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Speaker 1: because of that being such a hard thing to evaluate. So,

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Speaker 1: but you asked me a question about one that I met,

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Speaker 1: and come back Jones was going to be a good player.

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Speaker 1: I was in pressed with the way Mac played in

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Speaker 1: fall camp, uh, and I was hopeful that he would

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Speaker 1: be able to continue to be able to play that way.

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Speaker 1: You know, when the games came and you know, he

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Speaker 1: didn't disappoint you know, at all. He really prepared for

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Speaker 1: the games. Well, he sort of changed his buydset. You know,

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Speaker 1: early in his career, he was an anxious guy that

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Speaker 1: you know, really had a tough time overcoming you know,

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Speaker 1: mistakes in his own mind that planned the next play

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Speaker 1: and you know he kind of you know got over that,

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Speaker 1: through through that, and um, you know, he really prepared

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Speaker 1: well for games and he was always able to execute

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Speaker 1: exactly what we wanted to do. So I think the

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Speaker 1: world of them. And you know, he had a lot

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Speaker 1: of three star players. You know, everybody goes on these stars,

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Speaker 1: but um, you know, Clinton Williams didn't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of stars and he was the third got picked in

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Speaker 1: the draft, and Josh Jacas didn't have a lot of

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Speaker 1: stars and he was you know, a first round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: So um, but we don't go on the stars. I

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Speaker 1: never know how many stars a guy has until like

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Speaker 1: after recruiting, you know, somebody says, hey, you had this

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Speaker 1: many nine star guys or five star guys or whatever

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Speaker 1: they are, you know, and I just we evaluate kind

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Speaker 1: of like you do for the draft, and we have

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Speaker 1: criteria for what we're looking for in every position, and

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Speaker 1: it's very similar to what a lot of pro teams

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Speaker 1: would look for at those positions. And by that time,

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Speaker 1: we try to develop our team and develop our players.

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Speaker 1: And when we find guys, we don't care how many

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Speaker 1: stars they have, and just you know, kind of trying

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Speaker 1: to develop those guys. And some of them have turned

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Speaker 1: out to be pretty good, and some of the guys

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Speaker 1: that had a lot of stars, you know, it turned

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Speaker 1: out to not be so good. Before I let you go,

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Speaker 1: was it true that Mac was carving up the defense

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Speaker 1: in practice and you told him to kind of settle

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Speaker 1: down and stop carving up the defense. Did that actually happened.

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Speaker 1: I remember the coving up the defense part that happened

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Speaker 1: quite often. I don't ever remember asking him to quit

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Speaker 1: doing that. He might have felt that because it was

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Speaker 1: a little frustrating at times trying to develop. You know,

563
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: had like eight new starters on defense, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of confidence. So you know, when you

565
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: go out there every day and get sort of, you know, shredded,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to develop confidence. But in that group,

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Speaker 1: but I knew we were going to have the kind

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Speaker 1: of team that was going to have to outscore people,

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Speaker 1: especially early on, until we got the defense a little

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Speaker 1: better and they got a little better the second half

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Speaker 1: of the year, and you know, the offense was very

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Speaker 1: productive and that's how we won. Recapping one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest wins of your career, Baylor wins the national championship,

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Speaker 1: you win your brackets. So pretty pretty good year for you, coach,

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Speaker 1: and always great to catch up with you. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't mind anything except bragging rights. And I don't

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Speaker 1: want anybody to think out there I'm a gambler, because

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Speaker 1: I'm not. But that's that's when it comes to your family,

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Speaker 1: to be able to have bragging rights, it's it's worth

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Speaker 1: a lot more than the money. Oh you got bragging rights, coach,

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Speaker 1: I would have everybody in your family run a lap. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: I just like to talk and I told everybody last night.

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Speaker 1: I said, look, I'm going to show the class. And

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Speaker 1: I called my daughter with like four minutes ago in

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00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: the game and I said, I'm not ready to claim victory.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know if you're ready to conceive.

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Speaker 1: You got You're happy about that. It's good, great, great

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Speaker 1: to catch up with you. Safe travels to August of

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Speaker 1: their coach, and uh, we'll connect with you some sometime

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Speaker 1: down the road. All right, buddy, Thanks Dan, appreciate you

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Speaker 1: have a good day. That's a coach, Saban. I never

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Speaker 1: know what I'm going to get. You know what stood out?

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Speaker 1: That's almost a fifteen minute conversation. One thing stood out

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Speaker 1: more than anything else. Now, he did have a sense

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Speaker 1: of humor and had some fun with some other things

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Speaker 1: in the bracket challenge and all that. Playing Augusta when

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00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: he said at his at Mac Jones's pro day, Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan didn't ask him any questions, And then he said

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Speaker 1: he didn't know if they were allowed to talk. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna guess Nick Saban's been through quite a few pro days.

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Speaker 1: Are pro coaches allowed to ask you any questions? But

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Speaker 1: he's standing next to Belichick and they're having a conversation.

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Speaker 1: But I you know, because I said, well, what did

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00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: you tell Kyle Shanahan? He said, I didn't talk to him.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing if you're Kyle Shanahan, you're gonna take Mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: You probably got a question or two for Nick Saban. Yes, Toner,

607
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you be able to ask questions? Plus whatever

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Speaker 1: the answer is you got to take with a grain

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Speaker 1: of salt because they're pubbing their own guys from their

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Speaker 1: own place and their team, So I don't understand why

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00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: that would be a rule breaker. They ask a coach

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00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: a couple of questions about their guy, we should ask

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Speaker 1: Florio and see if you're allowed to talk to the

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Speaker 1: coach at a pro day. Yeah. Point, And that's gotta

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00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: be a weird thing because if you're great friends with

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Speaker 1: Belichick and he asked you about mac Jones, but then

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Speaker 1: another coach who you're not great friends with asked you

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00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: about a player, are you less truthful? But you want

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Speaker 1: your guy to go high? It's good for the program.

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00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: Mac Jones goes four or three. It's an awkward situation

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Speaker 1: because if Belichick asks you a question, Belichick's you're good, buddy,

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Speaker 1: But then if somebody else who you don't have a

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Speaker 1: relationship with, ask you about your player. All right, let

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Speaker 1: me take a break. When we come back, last call

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Speaker 1: for phone calls and the Brackett Contest winner. Of course,

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Speaker 1: if you thought it was going to be the drummer

627
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Speaker 1: from Young the Giant, you're right. You called it back.

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Speaker 1: After this, Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick Show Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm John Middlecoff and I host the Three and Out Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Do you like football? Do you like the NFL? Do

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Speaker 1: you like the NFL draft? Quarterbacks? Coaches? Well, I talk

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Speaker 1: about it all on the show. I used to work

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Speaker 1: for Andy Reid as a scout. Now I give you

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Speaker 1: my unfiltered and raw opinions on everything that goes on

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. And you know we're talking college football

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Speaker 1: because of how important the draft is year round. Listen

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Speaker 1: to the Three and Out Podcast with me John middlecop

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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcast chair. I'm losing a little cough syrup here,

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Speaker 1: Young the Giant. You hate Young the Giant, now, don't

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Speaker 1: you see? Because you lost the bracket challenge? No, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't hate them now. It's okay, it's this is

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Speaker 1: part of being a competitor. Okay, I gotta lose with

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Speaker 1: Grace h He used the champ he used to who

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Speaker 1: everybody thought would probably win the Bracket Challenge. The drummer

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Speaker 1: for young the giant Francois comtois hopefully I got that.

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Speaker 1: How did I do with my French? That was a

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Speaker 1: I'd give it a ninety five percent? Okay, all right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we don't aim for perfection around here. Uh, congrats on

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Speaker 1: winning the Bracket Challenge. You had Baylor beating Gunzag in

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Speaker 1: the national title game. You also had Connecticut going to

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Speaker 1: the Final four as well, Francois, So do you know

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Speaker 1: college basketball? Uh? I would say I have a glancing

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Speaker 1: knowledge of college basketball. Actually, the reason I won and

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Speaker 1: the reason I put Yukon in the final four were

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Speaker 1: both because of my brother in law who did go

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Speaker 1: to Yukon. He gave me good advice on the on

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Speaker 1: the championship game and not such good advice for the

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Speaker 1: final four. Um, is there going to be a song

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Speaker 1: off this win? Are you? Are you gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to write something off winning the Brackett Challenge here? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think just touching on these feelings of surprise,

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Speaker 1: I actually thought I was in last place as yesterday morning,

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Speaker 1: and then someone pointed out that I hadn't paid attention.

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Speaker 1: I did so poorly for the rest of it, and

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Speaker 1: then I realized I'd actually picked the right two teams

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Speaker 1: for the finals. But um, yeah, I mean I think

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Speaker 1: it's definitely sparked some ideas. How are you gonna Did

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Speaker 1: you celebrate last night like a rock star? I had

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Speaker 1: a couple of beers and I went to bed at nine?

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Speaker 1: But did you used to have a time where you

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Speaker 1: acted like a you know, like a tour bush days

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Speaker 1: and hotel Yeah, well, I mean we haven't toured in

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Speaker 1: about a year, so uh, it's I kind of forget

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Speaker 1: those days. But yeah, definitely when we were starting out

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Speaker 1: in the in the early twenties, there were some some

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Speaker 1: late nights in early mornings and early morning calls where

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Speaker 1: you regretted the late nights. But um, we've slowed down

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And you're from Canada, Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: born in Montreal, Okay. And you how did did you

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Speaker 1: guys come up with Young the Giant? We tried to change.

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Speaker 1: We had an original name from when we were a

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Speaker 1: high school band, and you know, we wanted to do

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Speaker 1: something different and just kind of through everything at the

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Speaker 1: wall and that was the one that stuck, and in retrospect,

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Speaker 1: It's about the most difficult thing to pronounce, so I

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Speaker 1: don't know that it was a great name, but we're

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Speaker 1: sticking with it. Did you ever meet the best Canadian

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Speaker 1: drummer of all time? Neil Pert? Yeah? I Unfortunately I

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Speaker 1: didn't have the chance, but I'm a huge fan and

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Speaker 1: he was a big loss for the Canadian family. Definitely. Well, congratulations.

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Speaker 1: When do you guys get back in studio or when

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Speaker 1: do you guys start to tour again. We've actually been

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Speaker 1: taking advantage of the year to write and record, so

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Speaker 1: we're hopefully going to have a fifth record within the

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Speaker 1: next few months, and then shows are starting to pick

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Speaker 1: up again. So we have some shows coming up in

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Speaker 1: April and then a few festivals throughout the summer, and

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Speaker 1: then hopefully we can do some more. Are you know

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Speaker 1: deep touring in twenty twenty two. Well, we hope that

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Speaker 1: you'll be in the Bracket Challenge next year as the

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Speaker 1: defending champ. I mean, I think I have to at

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Speaker 1: this point. This is definitely a perfect example of beginner's luck.

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Speaker 1: And this is what happened in my Fantasy Hoops league.

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Speaker 1: I won the first year. I am in last place

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Speaker 1: this year, so winning the bracket kind of helped me

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Speaker 1: balance it out. If you can stay on hold, we'd

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Speaker 1: like to get your address to send you some GP

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Speaker 1: show gear. Oh cool, Yeah sounds good. Francois, thank you

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Speaker 1: and congratulations. Thanks appreciate it. That's uh. Francois comtois the

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Speaker 1: drummer for Young the Giants. I think I'm ninety five

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Speaker 1: percent yeah there, but yeah, I thought Setan was gonna

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Speaker 1: hate Young the Giant, but you did. You don't. You're good? Nah? Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, a little bitter, but not here. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: it's good. You kind of take things personally. Here me,

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Speaker 1: I just let it go. You just water under the

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Speaker 1: baits and the tantrums. I'm fine with them. If fits

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Speaker 1: beat me too, I'm all good with that. All right.

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Speaker 1: My thanks to Nick Saban, also Chris Simms and Jay

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Speaker 1: Billis who joined us on the program. Let's go around

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Speaker 1: the room. What we learned? Fritzie, I'll start with you.

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Speaker 1: What did you learn today? Nick Saban feels out of March,

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Speaker 1: made his bracket every year he had Baylor and beat

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Speaker 1: his daughter who had the zags and mc lovin, what

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Speaker 1: about you? Nick Saban won't talk to Kyle Shanahan and

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Speaker 1: John Lynch. Did that strike you streams though? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I was wondering, is it because he doesn't want

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Speaker 1: to talk in front of other teams and they talk

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Speaker 1: on the phone later? Maybe? But he said he hadn't

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Speaker 1: spoken to Kyle Shanahan, Seaton O'Connor, Nick Saban ruthless trash

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Speaker 1: talk as he is ruthless. Yeah, calling his daughter four

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Speaker 1: minutes ago in the game. I'm not ready to declare

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Speaker 1: victory man, you're ready to concede? Pauline? Would you learn

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Speaker 1: seton wishes ed? Shearan was in the bracket contest? What

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Speaker 1: had I learned? You still don't understand the footy nine

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Speaker 1: is fascinating with Mac Jones to trade those picks and

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Speaker 1: move up to the three spot. Yeah, what we learned

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