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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome into NRG Stadium, the Hunday Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mark Vandermer, Hunday driver and voice of Ron Carter Hunday.

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Speaker 1: You're Houston area hunday dealers. I thought i'd throw that

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Speaker 1: in there at the top of the show. Why not

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Speaker 1: driving a Santa Fe Love? It? Is that a commercial?

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Speaker 1: In the first head seconds? Maybe John McClean joins us

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Speaker 1: from the Houston Chronicle. That's not a commercial. He is

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Speaker 1: the general. How's it going? John? Mark is going great?

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Speaker 1: We're about to head to uh, Scottsdale. Is it Scottsdale

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Speaker 1: or Phoenix? Where the Biltmore is. It's a good question.

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Speaker 1: It's Phoenix. It's the Greater Phoenix. Scottsdale Mall is right

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Speaker 1: down in the street. But anyways, why do you have

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Speaker 1: to say though, like it's Tempe, Scottsdale. They're all very

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Speaker 1: close to me. It's like you go to Houston, right,

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Speaker 1: do you have to say if you're in the Woodlands

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Speaker 1: or if you're going to meet in river Oaks? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'd probably say river Roads. Scottsdale is the river Oaks

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Speaker 1: of Phoenix? Really? Yeah? I mean it's uh. I Love

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Speaker 1: going to build more. I don't stay there, it's too expensive.

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Speaker 1: But I've been there a million times now because the

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Speaker 1: NFL has changed city so many times. I used to

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Speaker 1: love it because over four years and went to Maui.

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Speaker 1: So I got an all expense paid tripped in one time.

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Speaker 1: It rained all week and so the wives couldn't get

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Speaker 1: out and work on their tans. So the NFL said,

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Speaker 1: We're not going back to Maui. Then the last year

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Speaker 1: of Paul Tagley Booth's commissionership, he loved Mallie, so they

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Speaker 1: do it again. That's the last time I've been to Maui.

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Speaker 1: And the boy I entered the league at the wrong time,

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Speaker 1: Sure did, and they also rotated as part of Maui.

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Speaker 1: The build more in Arizona, Lake Buena Vista in Orlando

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Speaker 1: that monsters high it there. And in Palm Desert, California,

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Speaker 1: by Palm Sprays there was a five star Marriott resort.

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Speaker 1: I've been to league meetings in which you had to

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Speaker 1: take a boat to get to your room. In a

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Speaker 1: while on the Big Island, what about really? What about

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Speaker 1: the Palm Springs one? I want that one. Palm Desert

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Speaker 1: was fabulous and but it's hard to beat the bi Biltmore,

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Speaker 1: which is a Hilton, but they don't have a sign

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Speaker 1: anywhere that says And what I like is is outside

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Speaker 1: up on the hill is the Wrigley Mansion that Philip

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Speaker 1: Wrigley built to spend about a month every winter coming

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Speaker 1: down from Chicago, and now it's a museum. As many

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Speaker 1: times I've been to Builtmore in Phoenix, I've never been

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Speaker 1: to the Wriggly Mansion, even though you've seen it. It's

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Speaker 1: right there and I can imagine what it's like on

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Speaker 1: the inside. But we're gonna spend all most of next week.

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Speaker 1: All the Texans will be there and UH from UH ownership, coach, GM, president,

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Speaker 1: all the top executives and UH I think UH they

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Speaker 1: will see everybody from the league in the league office

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Speaker 1: as well. It's the most relaxed time of the off season,

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Speaker 1: more relaxing a by which is much more of a

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Speaker 1: work trip. And then of course of the craft is

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Speaker 1: a work trip for everybody. And this is a lot

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Speaker 1: of a lot of I do a lot of writing

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Speaker 1: and interviewing. Like the Coach's Breakfast, Bill O'Brien has to

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Speaker 1: sit still for an hour think about this. This is

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Speaker 1: the only time NFL coaches have to sit for an hour,

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Speaker 1: and they start squirming after about fifteen or twenty minutes,

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Speaker 1: and by the end they've been asked the same questions

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Speaker 1: over and over and over, and Frank Reich is gonna

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Speaker 1: hear so many times, Well, you're the favorite now in

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Speaker 1: the AFC South, which is better than is Andrew Lux's

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Speaker 1: career over like last year. So I can't wait. Doug

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Speaker 1: moron Bill O'Brien's good buddy. Doug always rips the heck

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Speaker 1: always says he's detection should be the runaway favorites in

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Speaker 1: the division. He might not say that now, Well, I

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Speaker 1: think you'll say it again, just because he likes putting

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Speaker 1: heat on his good buddy. And then you go over

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Speaker 1: and tell Bill Bill says something about Doug. You go

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Speaker 1: back to Doug. Well, Doug, Bill said, you could have

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Speaker 1: a whole hour of that, And I don't one thing

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Speaker 1: I don't like about it. It's all thirty two coaches

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Speaker 1: at once if Belichick shows up, and then it used

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Speaker 1: to be over two days. So we got an hour

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Speaker 1: it is a great week before it intensifies. This is

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Speaker 1: kind of the calm and the either herd Cane. You

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Speaker 1: had free agency, then coming out of here you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have the draft. And that's kind of what it's going

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Speaker 1: turn up the intensity level on the draft. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be a great time all the way through April

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Speaker 1: twenty seventh. April fifteenth, the offseason conditioning program starts, so

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Speaker 1: the players will be in the building. That'll cool. It does,

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Speaker 1: and you know a lot of them are working out

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Speaker 1: here as it is. Oh yeah, they're making a lot

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Speaker 1: working out around town. Some of them have gone home,

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Speaker 1: but they know when they show up April fifteenth, if

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Speaker 1: they are not in tiptop shape, they will be in

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's dog as seat. Now, po isn't that amazing?

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Speaker 1: April fifteen in physic the season just ended. Yet it

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Speaker 1: feels like we are progressing and before you know it,

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Speaker 1: it'll be here again, and that's what you want. So

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Speaker 1: a couple of other notes on the owners meetings. Next week,

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Speaker 1: we'll do the shows Monday and Tuesday from the Biltmore

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Speaker 1: in Phoenix. John others stories. Well, let me just go

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Speaker 1: here first, Robert Kraft, and just to paint the picture. Media,

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Speaker 1: they're in and around the hotel. They're not everywhere in

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Speaker 1: the hotel, but they're in the lobby, They're all over

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Speaker 1: the place. It's very hard for the owners to get

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Speaker 1: around without passing by media members, and the owners have

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Speaker 1: no obligated availability here. But what's it gonna be like

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Speaker 1: for Robert Kraft there at the Biltmore? Do you think

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Speaker 1: he'll be there or does he skip the whole I

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Speaker 1: think he skips the whole thing and lets his son

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Speaker 1: Jonathan handle it well. And he's gonna have to answer question.

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Speaker 1: Well he does, He's not gonna have to. But often

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Speaker 1: he can say no comment or whatever. It just move

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Speaker 1: the distraction away or to a minimum. If Craft doesn't show. Now,

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Speaker 1: Roger Goodell on Wednesday when his post league meeting news

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Speaker 1: conference that the first question is not about craft. It's

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Speaker 1: not going to be the first question because Goodell will

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Speaker 1: pick on somebody who's talking about London or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: they're going to decide on rules changes, and they'll talk

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Speaker 1: and those are always everybody wants to know. Are they

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Speaker 1: going to do something to avoid some of the problems

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Speaker 1: team the possession in overtime no matter what, which I

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Speaker 1: think they should, Will they let an official upstairs call

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Speaker 1: a penalty the mispass interference against the Rams, and that

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Speaker 1: that opens up a whole can of worms. And as

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Speaker 1: so many penalties that they could do that too. It

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Speaker 1: won't surprise me at all. Mark, they don't do anything.

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Speaker 1: I'm much more fired up to go to do interviews,

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Speaker 1: listen to Goodell and get to talk to coaches. And

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Speaker 1: then you bump into people all over the place. It

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Speaker 1: used to be we could we in the media could

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they go to bathroom, people follow into bathroom. Now

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Speaker 1: they've moved us into another building away, so if you're

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Speaker 1: the ballrooms from their meetings, and I know they like that.

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Speaker 1: Now you could go in one of the cafeterias at

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Speaker 1: Bob and Bob Kraft, you got a minute to talk

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Speaker 1: about Florida. Nobody's gonna do that. But you're all out

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Speaker 1: Everybody's right there, and everybody's there and they have a

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Speaker 1: They're They're just there and if you want to talk

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Speaker 1: John and I'm in line for shrimp cocktail with say

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Speaker 1: being in the food line to get shrimp with the

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Speaker 1: coaching an owner. Uh. One year we were in Orlando

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Speaker 1: and you could do rides, you could you could watch movies.

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Speaker 1: You could watch you know, Mikey and Mini, and there

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Speaker 1: Gazette is throwing those things that you put on bottles

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Speaker 1: and the ring goes on him. You get different sizes

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Speaker 1: of dolls. He was trying to win one for his daughter.

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Speaker 1: And next to him was the late Robert Hersey, Jim

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Speaker 1: Hersey's father, And he was next to Ed and Ed

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Speaker 1: said hey, Jim, thanks for extra super Bowl tickets. And

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Speaker 1: And I like it. I think it's a good move.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders have moved on from him. They had signed,

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Speaker 1: productive and taking some heat off DeAndre Hopkins. Now, those

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Speaker 1: two young tight ends that could be, they could throw

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Speaker 1: them the ball a whole lot more. Aikins could even

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Speaker 1: line up outside. Sometimes he can run. But I think

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Speaker 1: at some point, whether it's a veteran or a lower

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Speaker 1: draft choice, they got to get another receiver and another

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Speaker 1: running back. Now, I think Fells is going to help

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Speaker 1: their running game. They'll get better on the line one

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Speaker 1: way or another. You know, if they get to the

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Speaker 1: starting line and they're not better, then I think it's

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Speaker 1: pretty safe for us to say they will be better

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Speaker 1: up front, Yeah, but be much worse. Well, how much

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Speaker 1: better remains to be seeing and Watson will help too,

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Speaker 1: He'll be smarter about getting rid of the ball. Quicker.

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Speaker 1: I was watching ESPN tighten out timing showing tape of

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins, not in his pro day but during games.

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Speaker 1: How quick he got rid of the ball. I've never

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Speaker 1: seen a college quarterback getting rid of the ball less

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Speaker 1: than one second at one, two, three boom balls out

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Speaker 1: and some of those throws were tremendous. So DeShawn, as

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Speaker 1: we know, likes to hold the ball wait for the

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Speaker 1: receivers to get opened down the field. Going into his

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Speaker 1: second years a full time, starting his third year, overall,

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Speaker 1: he will be so much better at getting rid of

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Speaker 1: the ball quicker and avoiding hits, not just sacks, but

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Speaker 1: hits that will make the line look better. Yep, that's

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Speaker 1: definitely gonna help. I mean, how many of those sacks

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Speaker 1: are on him? I don't have the grades in front

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Speaker 1: of me, but certainly it's a collective effort. It's a

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Speaker 1: collective effort, there's no question about it. Defensively, John, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned to Sean Gibson, we talk about Bradley Roby, Reambody Calhoun.

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Speaker 1: We haven't talked about him much. It's not like he's

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Speaker 1: going to be the difference maker there, but he certainly

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Speaker 1: is somebody to help the personal When he was in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: he started eight I think eight games last year. He's

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Speaker 1: a slot corner. He's short, but he weighs like one

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Speaker 1: ninety three stout and then they up using him as

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Speaker 1: safety and and dying baggage, and so because of his versatility,

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Speaker 1: they like that to Sean Gibson is not versatile like

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Speaker 1: Tyran Matthew, but he can cover tight ends and this

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Speaker 1: team could not cover tight ends last season and that's

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Speaker 1: very important to get him in that role. But Body Calhoun,

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Speaker 1: there's no guarantee is gonna make the team because you

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Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do in the draft. But

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Speaker 1: the fact is he can do so many things it'll

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Speaker 1: kind of be surprised if he doesn't. The general sticks around.

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Speaker 1: What's the latest thought on a surprise pick in the

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Speaker 1: first four selections for the Texans? And let's go around

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Speaker 1: the league a little bit because plenty is happening as

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Speaker 1: always International Football League to discuss with the General John

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Speaker 1: mcclaint here on Texans Radio. John mcclainton is with us

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Speaker 1: on Texans All Access Today. Great to have you listening

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Speaker 1: here from the Hunday Texans Radio studio. We've covered a

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Speaker 1: lot of material. John, surprise pick in the draft, who now,

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Speaker 1: maybe not in the first round where I'm going corner

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Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans. I'm going corner offensive tackle? All right?

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Speaker 1: Who's the surprise in the first three or four picks. Well,

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Speaker 1: I would think considering that Texans would like to have

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Speaker 1: an inside pass rusher. You know, they let Christian Covington

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Speaker 1: go because they believe Carls Watkins going into his third

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Speaker 1: season's radios step up and playing his role in the rotation. Yep,

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Speaker 1: and you got your three starters back, and you get

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Speaker 1: your fourth Guyage low Blackson back. But they still would

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Speaker 1: like to have some heat up the middle if they

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Speaker 1: had some. So it's a good draft for front seven guys,

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Speaker 1: specifically guys up the middle. So I would like to

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Speaker 1: see it. I don't think you'll be there a defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle like Draymont Jones from Ohio State. Somebody could come

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Speaker 1: in in a four man front, or when Romeo goes

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Speaker 1: to his smorges Borg moving everybody around, when Watt's really

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Speaker 1: the only lineman on the field, to have another lineman

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Speaker 1: capable of getting up the field from inside, which is

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Speaker 1: the shortest path to the quarterback. What yours would be

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Speaker 1: your surprise running back? I think that it helps the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. I think Lamar Miller is good, and I

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Speaker 1: think that Diatte Foreman can play very well. We've seen it,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not going to be surprised that they find

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Speaker 1: a speedy playmaker that they like for the backfield, who

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Speaker 1: can catch them all out of the backfield, run some

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Speaker 1: tough yardage runs. You know, everyone sees what the Patriots

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Speaker 1: did with Sony Michelle, in addition to whatever else they

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Speaker 1: have with Jay White, etc. With Birkehead. So I believe

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Speaker 1: that that could be a possibility for that. Do you

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Speaker 1: think you second or third round don't have a four?

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Speaker 1: Brian Gaine would love to get a four back. I

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Speaker 1: could see Brian if it came time to be the

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Speaker 1: twenty third pick and the best tackles were gone, but

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Speaker 1: there was some corners there that they like. Say there's

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Speaker 1: two trading back a little bit, get for maybe a

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Speaker 1: four and still getting one of the corners you like,

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Speaker 1: and then you could do that. I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 1: they like the draft class. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people do. I saw a mock draft now I'm not

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Speaker 1: even gonna say who it was. Today A guy really

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Speaker 1: respects said he wouldn't be surprised if Brian Gaine the

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Speaker 1: Texans traded one of those twos to move back into

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Speaker 1: the first round to get a receiver or running back,

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Speaker 1: and I can't tell you it ain't happening. Brian Gaine

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Speaker 1: wants another pick. You don't want to give up a two.

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Speaker 1: If he's gonna give up a two, he'd move up

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Speaker 1: to get a tackle. Well, clearly you can see the

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Speaker 1: way they handle free agency. They want to build through

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Speaker 1: the draft. It's not a great free agency class. It's

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Speaker 1: not these pics are valuable. They feel confident based on

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Speaker 1: what they did last year. They put a ton of

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Speaker 1: work into it. It. I know people might not be

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Speaker 1: onto it, but it's a very different kind of regime

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Speaker 1: right now, and it's going to take I think three

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Speaker 1: years to really see how it affects the entirety of

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Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster. This Brian Gaine Bill O'Brien collaboration.

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Speaker 1: Based on what you just said about a running back,

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Speaker 1: this class, there are good values in third and fourth round,

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Speaker 1: maybe the fifth round for running back, just like there's

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Speaker 1: good value in the bottom part of the first round

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Speaker 1: for cornerbacks tackles, but there's not a good value for

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Speaker 1: left tackles. Andre Dillard Washington State's the best pass protector,

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Speaker 1: but he's the only one that everybody says that guy's

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Speaker 1: going to be a left tackle. Everybody else Jena Williams

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Speaker 1: could play right tackler, guard. Juan Taylor's whole career was

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Speaker 1: it right tackle. Cody Ford is a right tackle or

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Speaker 1: a guard. So this team doesn't need a right tackle.

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Speaker 1: This team needs a left tackle, but mainly need to

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Speaker 1: just get more talent up front and see how Mike

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Speaker 1: Devlin wants to use it. So for what they need tackles, corners,

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Speaker 1: running back in a later round, receiver and later round.

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Speaker 1: This is a good draft for that. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: bounce around a little bit here. John espad is really

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Speaker 1: heavily wooing Peyton Manning to do Monday Night Football. Is

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Speaker 1: there a shot that he considers this. Peyton, you know,

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time last season traveling around the

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Speaker 1: country doing interviews for the league with people for the

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Speaker 1: celebration of the one year anniversary. Peyton wants to run

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Speaker 1: a franchise. I think if you want to run a franchise,

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Speaker 1: you can't be in a position to be to criticize. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and if you're going to be on TV, you have

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Speaker 1: to be critical. That thing that he does on ESPN

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Speaker 1: Plus where he does a quarterback review it's great. He'd

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Speaker 1: be tremendous on there. I think if Peyton is going

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Speaker 1: to be on TV, he should be the second guy

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Speaker 1: like Gruton. They don't need a third guy, Nope, because

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Speaker 1: Peyton would be so good on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 1: But I think if you want to run an NFL

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Speaker 1: team and you're making millions and millions and millions doing endorsements,

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Speaker 1: and you've got more money than you'll ever need, I

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Speaker 1: don't see him going on TV and put him in

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Speaker 1: in a position to have to be critical unless he

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Speaker 1: wants a chance to impress some owners with his knowledge.

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Speaker 1: But he should They should already know that. Do you

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Speaker 1: think if Peyton wants to run a team, he'll be

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Speaker 1: able to just go straight into it and do it,

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Speaker 1: or he needs to go learn somewhere, like being a

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Speaker 1: number two. I believe that he would feel like he

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Speaker 1: needs to go learn a little bit first, or and

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Speaker 1: or if he decides to do it and somebody would

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Speaker 1: actually hire him to do it from the get go,

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Speaker 1: he would hire well, he would hire somebody who's been

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Speaker 1: there before and run it and be able to lean

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Speaker 1: on them for every little thing, because there are things

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Speaker 1: he doesn't know about you might say, well, he played

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Speaker 1: a quarterback in this league. Mark, come on, he ran

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Speaker 1: off it. He got to coach that he could coach to.

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Speaker 1: Not really, there's a lot more to it than that.

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Speaker 1: You talk to any head coach and they understand that

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Speaker 1: there's a lot more to it than they thought when

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Speaker 1: they took the job. And I'm sure any GM would

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Speaker 1: be the same way. So you know, you could be

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Speaker 1: the second in command. It's not the same as being

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Speaker 1: in command. He would want somebody who's been there before

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Speaker 1: at the very least, if not spend a year as

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Speaker 1: an apprentice. But then you would know that it's you know,

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Speaker 1: he's the heir apparent. Remember when Darryl Morey came to

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Speaker 1: the Rockets and Carol Dawson was still around, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: Moorey was taking over. You know. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he can get away with that with Peyton Manning, because

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Speaker 1: it's Peyton Manning. You would have to have a very

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Speaker 1: confident and comfortable general manager like John Elway, Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: maybe even John Schneider and Pete Carroll in Seattle. But

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys would be, oh, I don't want

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Speaker 1: him here. He's gonna be taking my place. And we

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Speaker 1: have one bad year, I'm out. He's in. Belichick is

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Speaker 1: a great example, though, because he's running things. If he

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Speaker 1: knew he was going to retire in a year or two, Peyton,

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Speaker 1: come on in, you learn from me, wear from you.

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Speaker 1: We talked together, and eventually you take over. I could

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Speaker 1: see it happening that way, but there are very few

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Speaker 1: situations like that in the NFL. I think he'll just

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Speaker 1: go learn somewhere and then get a job with somebody else.

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Speaker 1: There was talk because he's friends with the Haslums, because

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Speaker 1: their biggest supporters at the University of Tennessee, that they

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Speaker 1: would hire him to run the Browns. But that's not

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Speaker 1: happening because of the job John Dorsey has done. But

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Speaker 1: I think anybody would pay almost anything to have Peyton.

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Speaker 1: All he's got to do is say, okay, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think it'll happen. All right, let's go to Cleveland

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Speaker 1: since we're on the topic here, and it's a nice

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Speaker 1: segue O b J. John and his reaction to things

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Speaker 1: reportedly and not so unreportedly. When you have the Instagram post,

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Speaker 1: what do you think of what's going on there? With

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Speaker 1: his reaction? And I know he deleted the post, but

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem like it's that harmonious so far.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't even been there yet, so let's see. I

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Speaker 1: think that I can't remember it. Maybe sae Quon Barley. Yep,

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Speaker 1: he's going from New York to be in the center

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Speaker 1: of attention to Cleveland. Ordinarily he'd be devastated, but because

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Speaker 1: of the progress the Browns showed his close friend Jarvis Landry,

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Speaker 1: their receivers coach from LSU, is the receivers coach there,

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Speaker 1: and he's playing with Baker Mayfield and with a team

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Speaker 1: that's loaded with talent. I'm gonna add some more. I

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Speaker 1: think it he'll be fine. Problem is, these guys have

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Speaker 1: uge goes. He sees Antonio Brown get thirty million guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: and even though he just signed last year, he could

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Speaker 1: be saying, all, I want some of that guaranteed money too,

637
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Speaker 1: And the Giants and the Steelers wanted those guys out

638
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: of there. So what we knew what Antonio Brown did

639
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: because what he was doing behind the scenes, he didn't

640
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: have a problem publicizing it. But it looked to me,

641
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: based on a lot of people I've talked to, whatever

642
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: he did behind the scenes, the Giants were tired of

643
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: it and they were ready to move on, and they

644
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: didn't win anything with him a so why not make

645
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: a tight and hopefully they used the two draft picks

646
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: one into three for players who can come in and

647
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: replace them. But Boyd Mayfield ought to be happy, But

648
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: I'd feel better about it if they had an experienced

649
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: head coach. Freddy Kitchens, who was never even mentioned for

650
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: a coordinator's job, was the quarterback coach, got promoted the

651
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: coordinator when Todd Halley was fired, and then did a

652
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: good job with Mayfield and turn that into a head

653
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: coaching job. He may be great at managing personalities, but

654
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: he's got some egos on that team that when things

655
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: are going well, it'll be great. But if they struggle

656
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: and lose a few, it could be implosive. Yeah, would

657
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: you pick that them? I know it's a pre draft,

658
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: but would you pick them to win the North? Yeah?

659
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick them. I'm gonna do it unless they

660
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: suffer major injuries, just because it's so much more fun

661
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: to have the Browns back and be interesting and exciting.

662
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: So yes, that second half Mayfield played here last year. Goodness,

663
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: he was good. He was bringing his team from behind.

664
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: He'd been awful in the first half, he'd been multiple interceptions,

665
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: and he didn't phase him. I think he's headed to

666
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: be an MVP, and I think he's gonna make them

667
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: so much more interesting. And once they made that deal

668
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: for Odell Beckham Junior, you know the scheduled people who

669
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: almost finished. Okay, now let's see, we need to get

670
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: them a couple more national appearances. I'm guessing they'll have

671
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: the maximum five. I see it not working as well

672
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: as Cleveland Browns fans usually when things don't remember the

673
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: dream team in Philadelphia that bombed out, Yeah, Redskins back

674
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: in the day Daniel Snyder's early years. And here's another

675
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: team that's made a lot of noise this postseason, this offseason,

676
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: and they made a move that made me say it's

677
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: not gonna work. Vontz Berfect goes to the Raiders. This

678
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: is evidence to me that it's not gonna work. I

679
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: know that Berfect can make plays, but Berfect is far

680
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: from perfect and he makes mistakes too, And I just

681
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: think that it's not gonna go well in Oakland. This

682
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: is not a good acquisition for that, I agree. I

683
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: don't know anybody thinks it is scept doward Raider fans.

684
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: He didn't play well last year, and here's a team

685
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: that always claims for decades it gets penalties unfairly that

686
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: the officials throw more against them than anybody. Now you

687
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: bring in the dirtiest player in the league and they're

688
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: gonna be watching him like crazy, and you're putting him

689
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 1: in the locker room with Antonio Brown, who he cheap

690
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: shot and gave him a concussion and then claimed he

691
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: was making up the concussion, faking it somehow. It just

692
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: John grew Never I hear people say, oh yeah, Gruden

693
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: can manage personalities. He couldn't manage Keyshawn Johnson in Tampa.

694
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: That into terrible. How does Mayok allow this to happen? Well,

695
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He doesn't have it, he says a personnel guy, John,

696
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: These are all John Gruden is in charge. But this

697
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: is the type of move that I would I can

698
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: hear Mayock's voice criticizing it. The move is made and

699
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: he's overseeing personnel there. I know that Gruden as the fay. Hey, Mike,

700
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: I can him, He's a good player. I can handle it.

701
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: And then you know they're going for picks. They get

702
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: rid of Mac for picks, and we're gonna go young,

703
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna and then they signed Trent Brown, highest paid

704
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: offensive lineman in history. They get perfect, they do things

705
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: like Antonio Brown, They do things like that that in

706
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: the cave. No, we're going for it right here with

707
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: this group. You should have kept Mac in the first place.

708
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: I guess if you were intent on doing that. It

709
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense to me the way they're going

710
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: about their business. And I know they want to make

711
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: a big splash in Vegas, but guess what. You could

712
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: go into Vegas with any franchise in any state and

713
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: it would be a splash because you're going into Vegas.

714
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: You know, it's the NFL. It's not like you're going

715
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: in there with you know, some low life, low level

716
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: NHL team. Hey wait a minute, they did that with

717
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 1: an expansion team and they did really well. Look, it's

718
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: it's Vegas. You'll be fine in the beginning. Ultimately, you

719
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: have to win, win the right way. Everybody, including me,

720
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: have rights taken an edge rush er Josh Allen from

721
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: Kentucky to replace Khalil Mack, but based on Gruden's history,

722
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: he won't surprise me at off he doesn't draft Dwayne Askins,

723
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: there Drew Locke one of those other quarterbacks, because he's

724
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: had so many different quarterbacks in his coaching career. He's

725
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: won with two old guys, Rich Kinnon and Brad Johnson,

726
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: and he inherited Derek Carr. Did Chris Sims have the

727
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: line on Kruden where it said where he said he

728
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: doesn't like to marry quarterbacks, he likes to date them.

729
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: I think that might have been Chris Sims because when

730
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: he was in Tampa it was a disaster for him too.

731
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: And the odds of John Gruden being happy with Derek

732
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: Carr and a living happily ever after miniscule, and so

733
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me at off he didn't use the

734
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: fourth pick on a quarterback. And if indeed Arizona didn't

735
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: want Kyler Murray and everybody thinks they do, and I

736
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: believe they do too, but they wanted to trade that

737
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: pick to Oakland to take him. I don't see that

738
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: happening because the quarterbacks he's won with him been pocket passers.

739
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: Gannon was mobile, but he wasn't a runner throwing on

740
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: the run, rolling outside alle like Kyler Murray. But I

741
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: think they're going to be more competitive. And there's a

742
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: long time Beat writer Jerry McDonald wrote a thing last

743
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: week that he thinks Trent Brown will play right tackle

744
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: because they don't want to move last year's number one pick,

745
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: Colton Miller from left tackle. And in other words, if

746
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: that's the case, you played the most money for an

747
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: offensive lineman in history for a right tackle. Now he

748
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: played right tackle for the forty nine ers. You know,

749
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: he was a seventh round pick. Texas fans should hope

750
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: that Trent Brown is seventh round pick who had some

751
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: injury issues that that happens to Chandrelle Henderson this season

752
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: and he has his good season, has a chance to

753
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: make a lot of money. I think Henderson has a

754
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: lot of ability, But the question is can you stay

755
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: on the field. Well, that's for sure, and that's good

756
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: when a guy's up in his let's see for six

757
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: years if he doesn't have a lot of wear and

758
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: tear on the tires. And he's only had an injury

759
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: that was a real injury once last year when he

760
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: broke his foot in that first game. But I'm fired

761
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: up to see what he can do. You know, one

762
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: year deal. If you're a coach or you're a general manager,

763
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: you should love players on one year contract. I'm still

764
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: kind of blown away last year. You know, we talked

765
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: about how bad the season was prior the seventeen campaign

766
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: with all the injuries and a historic amount of players

767
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: that you have to use seventy eight on a fifty

768
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: three man roster. Then last year, yeah they stayed healthy, right, Well,

769
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: yeah they did. But the very first game you lose

770
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: your right tackle and you have to put ranking in

771
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: it left tackle instantly in New England, you know, And

772
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: I really wanted to open it New England, rip off

773
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: the band aid and see what you got. But clearly,

774
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: when you're developing an offensive line, it takes a few

775
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: regular season games to get it done. It's very hard

776
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: to get him going in the preseason. A young line

777
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: trying to find its rankin was coming off major surgery

778
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: on his foot, so he didn't have a whole kid

779
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: that free season to be ready and he had to

780
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: be thrown No excuses here, but it's just like I'm

781
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: just thinking about it. That's that's the position group that

782
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: we keep talking about, and that was the position group

783
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: that got very that got hit very hard from the

784
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: get go. Last year, I'll guarantee you this, will you

785
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: know it. Brian Gaine and Bill O'Brien are gonna have

786
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: a bunch offensive linement. There's gonna be a lot of competition,

787
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: and O'Brien's always talking about how he loves competition at positions.

788
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: And I think they'll sign at least one tackle in

789
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: free AGC, maybe two. They'll draft one, maybe two, and

790
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: they'll just throw them all in there and let them

791
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: go and and maybe they'll cut somebody will get on

792
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: somewhere else. But the key is don't be stuck in

793
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: a position like last year where you're down to your

794
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: last option. Everybody thought Dwayne Brown was terrible after his

795
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: first year. Everybody thought Chris Myers was no good after

796
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: the eighth. They got killed because Chris had memory, he

797
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: had a high ankle. Spring said it was a terrible pick.

798
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: They just brought him in here because he'd been from Denver.

799
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: And I don't you know, Dwayne rotated with I from Salaam,

800
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: so I don't think people gave up on him. But

801
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: it does take time and the odds of a guy

802
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: coming in here and starting from the get go, it

803
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: does happen, but a lot of times it does not happen.

804
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: So they've got to have somebody at left tackle, Julian

805
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Davenport or a free agent who who has starting experience,

806
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: who could hold it down till the rookie's ready. John,

807
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: what do you have going out of the chronicle. We

808
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: have our seventh mock draft that's posted, and we've got

809
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: twelve where turning headed for the stretch. I have a

810
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: column on Sunday wrapping up Texans free agency up to

811
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: this point, looking ahead at the Texans in Arizona and

812
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: the NFL meetings, and Aaron Wilson's on top of any

813
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: transactions the Texans make. And we've got a podcast that

814
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: we recorded on Thursday that'll be put up probably. I'm

815
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: thinking it went up a couple hours ago. Thank you, John,

816
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Mark. I will see you in

817
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: the see you in Phoenix by the time I get well.

818
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sing it right now. Maybe i'll sing

819
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: it next week and we'll be on the here tomorrow

820
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: at six with John Harris and don't Forget about Texans

821
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: three sixty Saturday night at eleven on ABC thirteen with

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00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: Shohn Pendergast co hosting, well guesting really Withdrew Doherty hosting.

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Speaker 1: Have a great night everyone, and go Texans.