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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show Ghosts Planets

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Speaker 1: taunted guys everybody off, from ghostly worms to eight armed

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Speaker 1: specters to ghost bats far scarier than any vampire. We've

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Speaker 1: got a passion for possession when it comes to these

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Speaker 1: cute hauntings. Discover this more as we answer the asual

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Speaker 1: question what are ghost dogs? A very import taste sequel

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Speaker 1: to air Bud joining me today to gab about all

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Speaker 1: things Ghostly is corporeal being and host of the Small

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Speaker 1: Beans Podcast Network show Rough Stuff Bridge at Greeberg. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's me not a ghost. Yeah. I like that you're

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Speaker 1: not a ghost because that I can always say that

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Speaker 1: whenever I walk into her room. I just want people

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Speaker 1: to be sure. No, it makes me happy. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's Bridget and she's not ghost. Hey what about that?

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Speaker 1: How about that? I like to make people feel comfortable

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Speaker 1: around me. Yeah. Yeah. I like to assure people of

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Speaker 1: my tangibility whenever possible, Like I'll just touch their face

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Speaker 1: like see tangible, tangible, tangible. Yeah, no, you you never

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Speaker 1: know in these days, and like you gotta make sure, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: don't throw me into a wall. I'm not gonna go

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Speaker 1: through it, right right, Yeah, And it's like I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna Bruce willis Ya in the sixth sense. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna like develop a relationship with me and then be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: but I'm a ghost the whole time. Whoops, can't pay rent. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm very right about sorry only ghosts books. We call

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Speaker 1: them boo books. Yeah, I don't have anything better than that.

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Speaker 1: There's got to be something better. Podcast over, we did it,

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Speaker 1: We did it. We did that, says that's the highest part.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get it. Are you scared of ghosts? Bridget Uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I believe. I don't think I believe

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Speaker 1: in ghosts, is how I put it to say, no,

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Speaker 1: because I'm a big brave girl. But it's hard not

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Speaker 1: to believe in ghosts, like at four in the morning

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Speaker 1: when like you're like woken up by a creek but

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Speaker 1: generally not like an otherworldly person. Yeah. No, I'm the

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Speaker 1: same way. I You know, I'm very open minded about

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Speaker 1: the universe, but I don't I don't believe in ghosts

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Speaker 1: as sort of like what what we describe as a ghost,

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Speaker 1: like you know, a spectral being that haunts the earth

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Speaker 1: maybe there's some weird secret of the universe, like supernatural,

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Speaker 1: but some science thing that we haven't discovered when it

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Speaker 1: comes just some sort of like energy kind of thing,

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Speaker 1: right like time and time and space salt, like a

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Speaker 1: I love that showing as a kid, but yeah, uh yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: but I don't really believe in the hauntings of specters. Um,

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Speaker 1: but when it is the middle of the night and

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Speaker 1: I wake up suddenly, I do believe in ghosts. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I even get sleep paralysis where I'm like, oh it's ghosts,

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Speaker 1: not a person who would be like that, that's a ghost.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's a ghost. But yeah, I think when

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Speaker 1: I was when I was a kid, my my mom's

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Speaker 1: So if sure, if there's a ghost there, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe these animals can prove me wrong. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't like dark, long hallways at night because that's

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Speaker 1: speaking of Casper, though, you get a Casper, let's talk

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Speaker 1: But Casper the friendly ghost, he was that ghost with

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Speaker 1: friends with Christina Ricci famously. Yes, yes, I used to

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Speaker 1: It's murdered. The little baby Fox gets murdered by a hunter,

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Speaker 1: and Casper goes to the baby Fox's grave and cries.

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Speaker 1: And then in the end, the baby Fox's ghost comes

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Speaker 1: a what a weird story for children's cartoon? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess it has a happy ending, but at what cost? Right?

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Speaker 1: Like the happy India? Is that the baby fox dies,

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Speaker 1: but at least it's tortured spirit lives on with Casper.

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Speaker 1: He and Casper, the baby Fox, ghost, and Capsper teaming

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Speaker 1: You know what you did? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 1: I think I should be there should be a Disney

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Speaker 1: from Avenge. Yeah, ghosts, ghost avengers, all the dead moms,

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Speaker 1: but not the Avengers. They'd have to figure out a

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Speaker 1: different name, right exactly. But we were going to talk

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Speaker 1: about octopuses. Uh, so let's do that is that is that? Is? That?

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Speaker 1: Is that right? Octopuses? It's not all his octopuses. It's

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Speaker 1: I know it also sounds cute I octopi, Yeah, way octopi.

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Speaker 1: But yes, it's octopus. Yeah. But the ghost octopus is

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Speaker 1: the friendly ghost with a big, big old head. Technically

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Speaker 1: that's called the mantle of the octopus. It is highly

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Speaker 1: big lebowski Margharitaville lifestyle for this deep sea ghost octopus.

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Speaker 1: like the Dumbo octopus. Have you ever seen the Dumbo octopus? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like this guy has a different strategy from the Dumbo octopus.

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Speaker 1: It's like there must be so many other things we

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Speaker 1: He's just a good old He's just a big old blob.

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Speaker 1: He's a little blob. He's cast for the friendly blob

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Speaker 1: like this guy's just said, dart, I don't know how

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00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: fast they are. My guests would be like, you know,

419
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: relatively fast, because they do sometimes drop from the tree

420
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: like down onto their prey, So probably they get to

421
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: they get that speed of like dropping from thee and

422
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: then unflfurling their wings, so they kind of dive bomb

423
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: their prey sometimes. So yeah, I think, uh, maybe not

424
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: like the fastest of all the bats or because they

425
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: seem to rely on the element of surprise to get

426
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: their prey, but probably faster than they you want them

427
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: to be if you are a small mammal or a

428
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: locust or have your reptile. Have you ever like I

429
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: had to run in with a bat. I have never

430
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: physically made contact with a bat, but there was a

431
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: bat in my sixth grade camp dormitory room that freaked

432
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: out all the girls and the yeah, yeah, they're they're

433
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: horrible to can't. I had had a run in with

434
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: a batwall camping. I was like leaving the camp bathroom

435
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: at night, uh, the campground bathroom and like walking back

436
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: to my tent and I got like dive bombed by one.

437
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: And it's like getting attacked by the biggest bug you've

438
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: ever seen, a big furry bug. It's horrified, it's startling.

439
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and you you don't know what it is,

440
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: you think, like I thought it was the biggest bug

441
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: in the world, like the world's ever seen, had flown

442
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: into my head. And then I found out it was

443
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: a bat, and it got so much worse. Yeah. I

444
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: actually read a story about a woman and we'll talk

445
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: about this in a little bit who had a bit

446
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: of a raby scare because she thought it was like

447
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: a moth. Uh that like a huge moth that hit

448
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: her face. But then she turned on the light and

449
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: it was a bat. Horrible, a ghost bat. H No,

450
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: she'd be dead. These that those teeth are no joke.

451
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: They are no joke. They actually so this might not

452
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: be something that bird lovers really want to hear, but

453
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: they love to eat budgies or as we know them

454
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: in the US, parakeets. So those cute, little colorable, those cute,

455
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: little colorful birds. I've had them as pets. Lots of

456
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: people have had them as pets. They're adorable and sweet.

457
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: These ghost bats love to eat them. Where where do

458
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: they live? They live in like a tropical in Australia. This, Yeah,

459
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: they yeah, they zero in on the birds chattering in

460
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: their roots. Like if you've ever had like a parakeet,

461
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, they make that cute little like yeah, Yeah,

462
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: they're a loud and so the ghost bats will hone

463
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: in on them and just like snatch them up and

464
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: they eat them head first and discard the feet and

465
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: wings like their pistachio shells. It's trying. I mean, I

466
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: would imagine those are the gross part of the parakeet. Oh,

467
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: the head probably isn't great. Yeah, I don't know how

468
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: because like I read this source and then saying they

469
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: eat them head first, It's like what do they do

470
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: with the beak? You know what I mean? Yeah, the

471
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: head feels like it has some most bone, right, And

472
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the brains are meat. Brains is meat.

473
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: It's true, brains is meat. But in a bird, that's

474
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: that's very little piece. He mean, I mean no, but

475
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, physically small amount. Yeah, they got

476
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: tiny brains, So it's it's I guess is that just

477
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: like maybe it's a humane kill. I don't think they care.

478
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the intention. I think it's to

479
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: kill it as quickly as possible so that they don't

480
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: have a bird you know, Yeah, because like what's the

481
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: alternative eating them like cloaca first? No, because like I

482
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: don't know as as discussed, I don't think the head

483
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: would be where you really get the nutrients of the bird. Um. Well,

484
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: brains are pretty they do have like brains do have

485
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: a lot of good nutrients in them technically speaking. Yeah,

486
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: I mean I eat bird uh right, but you don't

487
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: have bird brains. I don't eat bird brain. I eat

488
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, I eat the body of the birth right, Well,

489
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: they do eat the body of the bird, they just

490
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: like But yeah, I would think if I were this

491
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: bat to get the most to be the most conscious

492
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: about using because like what, you you chomp the head,

493
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: then the body falls. For some reason, I'm imagining this

494
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: all happening midair because we're talking about birds probably hanging

495
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: upside down with this poor poor dead burden there. You know. Yeah,

496
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: it's probably a dive bomb because I just imagine then

497
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: the body drops and then you gotta find you gotta

498
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: find it. It's a mess. It's not a clean kill. Yeah,

499
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: I think that. Yeah. I wonder if it's sort of

500
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: like a banana situation where they kind of like chew

501
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: off the head and then kind of go from there.

502
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you have to split the

503
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: top of the banana to get run into the banana

504
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: and maybe it wraps it in its wings, which is

505
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 1: another thing I do not like about this bat. Oh

506
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: the wings is the wings I don't I don't like

507
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: that I can see through them. You don't like how

508
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: membranous they are? Yeah, yeah, that I can see, like

509
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: like they look like spider webs. Pretty venous. Yeah, but

510
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: ye see right through them and all the like tendons

511
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: and stuff. And I don't like that. Well, you know,

512
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: like everyone's a critic when it comes to see through

513
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: venous wings, I guess. But in terms of like should

514
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: we be scared of these ghost bats? Are they a

515
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: threat to humans? And I would say, generally speaking, no,

516
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: We're too big for them to consider us prey. Uh.

517
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: In fact, according to some sources are read, they are

518
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: rather docile and hesitant to approach humans litt alone attack

519
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: them like all bats. That doesn't mean you should handle them.

520
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: You should not just pick up a bat. Don't do

521
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: it the hard way. This year, let's stay away from

522
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: batspeople stay away from bats, of them their space. It's

523
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: interesting because it rabies is not really problem in Australia,

524
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: does not actually naturally occur in other animals in Australia.

525
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: That's shocking. But the Australian bat lisa virus actually does exist,

526
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: and so it's that the life of virus is similar

527
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: to rabies, but it's technically different virus than rabies. Um. So,

528
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: while I don't think that the ghost bats have rabies,

529
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: they may carry Australian bat lisa virus. That sounds bad. Yeah,

530
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: it's deadly. Only three cases of human infection have occurred since.

531
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: So I don't want people in Australia to panic, although

532
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: I feel like people in Australia are probably pretty unflappable

533
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: at this point, Like, yeah, I don't think they're a

534
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: panicky people. No, I don't think, well yeah, still don't.

535
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: Still don't mess with the bats. It's rude to the bats.

536
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: But also, you know, you don't want to be one

537
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: of the few you people who get Australian bat lice virus. So,

538
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: like I read this, uh, this thing from an Australian

539
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: zoo talking about how like their handlers for these bats

540
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: need to get a vaccine for lice virus because like,

541
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: while it's extremely unlikely they're gonna get it, why risk

542
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: it us? So yeah, um um, But also you can

543
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: be afraid of the thing's giant boner and the thing

544
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: is I shared this picture with you because I had to.

545
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know what the context

546
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: is for it. I don't know why this bat is understoodation.

547
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's got a big old morning would.

548
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: I really don't know. I don't have any answers. I

549
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: just thought you might want to see it. Yeah, I

550
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: do like it's little helmet. I do think the anesthesia

551
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: helmet is kind of yeah, it's because when also like

552
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: usually when you get anesthesia, right, like you get uh

553
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: maybe like an injection of something like ivy or like

554
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: if you're getting nitrous oxide, you get a little nose thing.

555
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: But animals too small, these they're too small for stuff

556
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: like that. So basically they just put a big cone

557
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: over their head that's like full of the the feel

558
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: good sleep gas. And then it's like so funny to

559
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: me to see various surgeries on tiny animals Like I

560
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: saw I think a goldfish surgery and they just had

561
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: this like helmet of I guess anesthetic for the goldfish

562
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: and we're doing surgery on a goldfish. Is like, what

563
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: how is this? And what is the point of doing

564
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: surgery on a goldfish, it's got three more days to

565
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: live with anything like even if those three more days,

566
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: it's going to live its life to the fullest in

567
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: those three days. I don't it really seems like a

568
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: waste of money to do you want to you want

569
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: to tell that goldfish that just because it's got a

570
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: torn a c l that it can't compete in the Olympics.

571
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Bridget is athlete. I don't think goldfish have a seals. Actually, no,

572
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: that's a that's in your knee. Yeah, I don't think

573
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: they have knees. They have joints, but they don't have knees,

574
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: so yeah, they have joints. That's it. I I what

575
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: I like about this helmet is that it kind of

576
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: looks like the Catwoman helmet because it has like little

577
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: it seems too from the angle, have little uh like

578
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: flaps for like a little space for its ears. Nice

579
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: and I like that a lot. Yeah, wait, there's a

580
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: catwoman helmet that has space for her ears. Well, the

581
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: the catwoman um helmets a wrong term, but mask she's

582
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: got yours as ears. Uh. If Batman's in space, does

583
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: he have to have a space helmet? That's got space

584
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: for his ears, like a little ovens for his ears.

585
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: I I would imagine he has designed alf I'm sorry,

586
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: I Lucius has designed some some cool like Cowels space helmet,

587
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel like I imagine like a NASA

588
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: space helmet with like two bulbs room for his ear

589
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: point ees. And then it looks if if we know

590
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: anything about Batman, it's got ears. He has artists, could

591
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: you guys, if anyone's could do art of what you

592
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 1: think of bat Man in a helmet would possibly look

593
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: like if you agree with my version, which is Batman

594
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: in his bat mask, but he's also in a NASA helmet,

595
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: but it's got two little points, two little nubns for

596
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: his ears to fit in. I think it's also funny

597
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: if he's in a space helmet but still wearing the

598
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: cowl too, Right, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, Right,

599
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: Like I thought you were talking about designing a space

600
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: helmet that looks like the cowl. No, no, because like

601
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: if he's at the super space station, right, he's got

602
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: to go in and out like he's doing a spacewalk

603
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: punching space joker. But then he's got to go back

604
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: inside of the superhero a space station, and then what's

605
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: he gonna do? Take off his entire secret identity helmet. No,

606
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: because like he's got to take it off in front

607
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: of other superheroes while still protecting his identity. So he's

608
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: got to have a mask under the helmet. So what

609
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: is he gonna So it's more bizarre to have a

610
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: space helmet shaped like a bat mask and you take

611
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: it off and there's another bat mask underneath. I say

612
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: he should wear the NASA bubble helmet with ear with

613
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: ear space space for his ear ear accommodation, uh nodules.

614
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: That yeah, that makes sense because like also if the

615
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: if the villain was inside the space station, he would

616
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: have to take off the helmet, right And honestly, I

617
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: don't trust the Flash either, he's a gossip. But you know,

618
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean these bets, these real life bats, much cooler

619
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: than Batman in my opinion, not just because the big boner,

620
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: but they're willing to kill, right, Like if the Joker

621
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: had an actual ghost bat, like a man bat that's

622
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: like bitten by a radioactive ghost bat and the and

623
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: now is like man bat, Joker would be so screwed.

624
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: He just like like the Joker would be, like, I

625
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: have devised the Pozson for you to save God, oh God,

626
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: and he just like grab him and eat him face first.

627
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: Ghost Bat doesn't hesitate, No, ghost doesn't. Ghost Bat doesn't

628
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: have like a complex about his parents. Ghost Back just

629
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: kills for the fun of killing. And ghost Bat is

630
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: obviously played by Steve Buschening obviously perfect. We did it

631
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: so bridget ghost dogs. Yes, ghost dogs. I'm surprised that

632
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: ghost Dog isn't a movie. Actually, I'm gonna google it

633
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: ghost to be a ghost dog movie? What's that? Well

634
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: that I mean inherently means it's a movie about a

635
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: dead dog, which is yeah, I mean there's a crime

636
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: crime film, but I don't think it has actual ghost

637
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: dogs in it, so it doesn't count. Mm hmm. I

638
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: would like to see like a sequel to what's it

639
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: called the one with Kiana Reeves where it's just a

640
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: Kiana Reeves killing people John Wick, Like a sequel to

641
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: John Wick where it's like John Wick Ghost Dog Protocol

642
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: and it's the key little Beagles ghost coming back to life,

643
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: sort of like when we talked about earlier with a

644
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: Caspar the ghost and then the little baby Fox comes

645
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: back to life as a ghost. Beagle comes back as

646
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: a ghost, but it has ghost guns and ghost powers,

647
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: and so it fights alongside john Wick john Wick. And

648
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: oh and it's crossover with Constantine because like now john

649
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: Wick is Constantine also played by Gary Reeves and fighting

650
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 1: bad guys and demons. Yes, and also the ghost dog

651
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: can then fulfill it's unfinished business at the end of

652
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: the movie, and like they can have a nice cathartic

653
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: night of Like ghost Dog, you've fulfilled your unfinished business

654
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: of vengeance, right, you have more unfinished business going. We

655
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: get some poopy bags will go outside. But ghost dogs

656
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: they're real, they're real. But it is actually just a

657
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: real animal, corporeal animal, and it refers to a secret

658
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: society of canids living in the Amazon basin, so secret dogs.

659
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: And I don't mean domesticated dogs or domesticated dogs that

660
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: went back out into the wild. But this is a

661
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: genuine wild canid species distinct from wolves and dogs. And

662
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 1: they are the only member of the genus atil Kindness.

663
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: They are also known as short eared dogs, so they

664
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: look very distinct from domesticated dogs and from wolves. So

665
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: they have short stubby ears and ash brown, short smooth fur.

666
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: They don't really look like a dog to me. They

667
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: actually look more like a faussa, which is that strange

668
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: kind of philoforma carnivore endemic to Madagascar. I think we've

669
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: talked about the fassa before on the show, but if

670
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: you google fassa you'll see what I mean. It is

671
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: almost like how to describe these guys. It's like you

672
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: took a mongoose and tried to run it on a

673
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: dog operating system. Well, the first and second picture look

674
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: very different to me. The first picture looks like it's

675
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: a dog bear. M hm, dog Uh is how I

676
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: describe that guy. But then when I see it on

677
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 1: the from its profile on its side, for you, it's

678
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: it's more ferret like, right, it's like a ferret fox. Yeah,

679
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: that one might be. It looks a little skinnier too,

680
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: so that one might be like a younger one because

681
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: in the bottom picture goes back to looking kind of

682
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: like a dog bear again. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's

683
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: like a mongoose dog and a bear dog fox. Yeah. Yeah,

684
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: it's I mean, they're lovely, they're lovely. Beatle animals are

685
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: sure they would kill me, but I want to cuddle.

686
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean, well, the thing is they are extremely elusive,

687
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: so they'd probably sooner run away from you than kill you.

688
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: They are so secretive and shy. There is very little

689
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: information known about them, especially for such a large animal.

690
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: Usually we are pretty good at studying the larger animals,

691
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: but these guys are very mysterious. We hardly even know

692
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: their dietary habits. So from scat analysis, they seem to

693
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: be omnivorous, eating meat and fruit. So scat analysis is

694
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, they're going in there poop uh and and

695
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: looking for stuff, and they found some meat and fruit.

696
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: And there are some recent video documentation from November that

697
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: showed a ghost dog scavenging and armadilla carcass, which some

698
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: people say, maybe maybe that means that they're a scavenger,

699
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: but we just we literally have so little footage of

700
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: them and evidence. Who knows, like this could just be

701
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: a one off behavior. They could scavenge sometimes and hunt

702
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: other times, like lots of animals who are hunters also scavenged.

703
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: So it's like even the minimal amount of video footage

704
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: we have of them doesn't really give us a whole

705
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: picture of what these mystery dogs are up to. Huh,

706
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: that's that's cool. Well I respect that. I like an

707
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: elusive dog. I know they're off the grid. They're like

708
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: the Jason Bourne of the animal world, just like spy dogs,

709
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: off the grid, eluding researchers, having a low profile. Yeah,

710
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: I like that, just like off the grid in the Amazon,

711
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: live in their lives, don't want to be found. Yeah. No,

712
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: they're not interested in all. Not interesting. Look, I've seen

713
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: what you did. I've seen what you've done to dogs

714
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: and the and that's that's embarrassing. One look at a

715
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: ship so and it was like no, no, not for me, thanks, no,

716
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: thank you, no, no. It saw one dog in a

717
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: Halloween costume and they're like absolutely not. I saw a

718
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: pug dressed as a weener dog like this is a

719
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: as a hot dog and they're like, no, no things

720
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: opt out. Yeah, you're not going to breed me. You

721
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: can't tame this beast. I'm gonna just hide in the woods.

722
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: That's very sweet, it's yeah. The Another behavior they've been

723
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: seen to do is they use the burrows of giant

724
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: armadillos as their own, so they just kind of like

725
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: find a burrow that another animal has dug, and they'll

726
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: go and seek refuge in that. They seem from the

727
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: limited information that I've found about them, they just seemed

728
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: very resourceful, secretive, and clandestine. And yeah, that's that's like

729
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: a Tom Sawyer of dogs like you. You built this

730
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: fence for me, mm hmm yeah, and i'll and I'll

731
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: eat your carcass. Also, yeah, the very Tom Sawyer. Yeah,

732
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: I didn't finish the book, but I assume that's how

733
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: it ends. Tom Sawyer gets the kid to paint the

734
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: fence and then he eats the kid head first. That's

735
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: why that's where it seemed like it was going. Yeah,

736
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: but I know that I don't really have to lecture uh,

737
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: my audience on wanting to say the rainforest. But if

738
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: you guys want to lecture someone else on wanting to

739
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: save the rainforest, I think that if you say, hey,

740
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: there's secret puppies there, that might convince some people that

741
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: that is a good that is a good sway. Especially

742
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: this first picture where it looks like a bear dog.

743
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: It is very cute. It's got big old pause, Scott,

744
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: big old pause. It's got boop snoot. I do want

745
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: to boop the snoop the obviously look disclaimer, I'm not

746
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: going to boot the snoot. It's first of all, I

747
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: literally could not find one of these dogs, no matter

748
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: how hard I tried. Probably, and you know, obviously you

749
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: don't want to boop the snoot of wild animal. But

750
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: between you and me, Bridget, just you and me, nobody else,

751
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: I really want to boot the snoot. It looks like

752
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: it's got cold, wet nose. It looks like a scot

753
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: cold wind nose that could boop on. It is a

754
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 1: happy dog. It's got a big fluffy tail, flushy tail.

755
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: You give a little eagle little screeches around the neck

756
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: when it's happy. Probably wags, probably wags, Probably does a

757
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: little sniff sniffs, little sniff niffs. Can you shake? Can

758
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: you shake? Boy? Very very trainable dogs. Yeah, I mean

759
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: I am as much as I respect how elusive they've been. Um.

760
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: I do want to find out more about these dogs

761
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: because canines are quite intelligent, and I am curious about

762
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: like what their what their social life is like, because

763
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like they would follow the same rules

764
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: that wolves would follow in terms of like pack structure,

765
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: because their whole diet in their whole lifestyle is probably

766
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: very different. So I'm really interested, but yeah, they they

767
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: do not want me to know. It's also so interesting

768
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: that there's a dog in a type of dog I

769
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: guess in the rainforest. It's hot, it's hot and hum

770
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: with there, and these guys look like they have a

771
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: thick coat. Yeah, it's an interesting coat though, because it

772
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: really doesn't look dog like, you know what I mean,

773
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't it's bear like or like a panther even,

774
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just surprising that we

775
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: just know so little about them. Do they have Do

776
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: they have like some like in the middle of the

777
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: forest they have like some tree stump that they do

778
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: like some kind of paw like pattern of paw presses,

779
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: and then like a tree opens up and there's this

780
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: whole like underground civilization of like super intelligent dogs or something.

781
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: I also because like there are so many videos of

782
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: dog and dog like creatures making friends with other animals,

783
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: So I just wonder if they're like hanging out with

784
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: that aunt eaters right, Like there's probably a zutopia down there,

785
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Because utopia, Yeah, I mean, you

786
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: said they might not be pack animals. But it's like

787
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: you say dog and you would think they have buddies, right,

788
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. They they could be pack animals. I

789
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: think it would be a little strange for something like

790
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: the rainforest. But I don't know, Like I just I

791
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: don't know, and I don't know if anyone knows. Because

792
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: they're they're Jason Bourne. They leave no trace. Mystery dog.

793
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: I like that. I like a dog with an edge.

794
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: Dogs don't have enough edge, edgy dogs whatever, just a dog.

795
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: I guess. Uh well, I think that I'll do it

796
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: for our Haunting, our ghost Hunter part of the show.

797
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: I do want it. Before we go, I had a

798
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: couple of emails that I thought were too good not

799
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: to share. We talked about the Cicada brewed X the

800
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: mass hatching of cicadas with Mara Wilson. Uh well, I

801
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: hope you don't mind this email then, which I mean, yeah,

802
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: hit me, hi, Katie. I experienced the Cicada brewed once

803
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: during that time. Apparently Cicada ice cream came up with it.

804
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: I never tried it, but it was a thing that

805
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: some people liked. Hearing you talk about them reminded me

806
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: of it. I love your podcast it's so fun to

807
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: listen to Sincerely Natalie. So yeah, in uh that it

808
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: seems that cicada ice cream is a thing. Um, yeah,

809
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: they're bugs, don't eat them. There's like a ice cream

810
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: shop in Cicada or an ice cream shop in Columbia, Missouri,

811
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: which like they collected dead cicadas from their backyards and

812
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: then boiled them and then covered them in brown sugar

813
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: and basically candied the cicadas and then put them into

814
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: the ice cream and apparently like it was so popular

815
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: it just like instantly sold out. But then like the

816
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: Department of Health and Human Services was like the food

817
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: code doesn't directly address cicadas, but we advised against him.

818
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: You can't serve bugs. You could serve bugs. I'm not

819
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: sure about this. Like for me, the just putting candied

820
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: to the kid as an ice cream, there's something about

821
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 1: that that creeps me out. Um, I'm like, I'm less

822
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: sort of grossed out by just like using bugs and

823
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: cuisine when you're not trying to like just put them

824
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: in an ice cream. For some reason, I don't know.

825
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: It's like when a bug is just randomly inserted into

826
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: ice cream. I think of like, oh, bugs, got in

827
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: the ice cream, and that's bad. But if you're like

828
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: a pro chef and you're like, here is a cricket

829
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: taco I have lovingly crafted, Like, Okay, I see that,

830
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: not necessarily saying I would eat it. You can't just

831
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: cover things in sugar and chocolate and tell people to

832
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: eat it. It's not fair. It's not fair. It's really

833
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: not fair. It's cheating. But I got this other email

834
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: from someone who writes Hi, Katie. I was binge listening

835
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: to podcast yesterday and during the Brewed X episode, you're

836
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: talking about consuming bugs and how you would prefer that

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Speaker 1: over cand asparagus. So I thought I would share with

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00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: you an Instagram account that I follow, just to make

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00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: a note to the listeners. I did say that that's

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00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: more of an indictment of canadasparagus than it is an

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00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: indication of my willingness to eat bugs. Um, but yeah,

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00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: that's what it sounded like to me. The email continues,

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00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: Joseph Un with Brooklyn Bugs makes gore mate dishes with

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00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: bugs and insects that I thought you would find cool.

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Speaker 1: The kimchi scorpions in deep fried cricket mac and cheese

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00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: bites looks awesome. Have a fabulous week, Kaylee, Thank you, Kaylee. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I looked at this instagram. It is what's the instagram?

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00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: It is Brooklyn Bugs if you want to check it

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Speaker 1: out all. But yeah, I gotta say these things do

850
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: genuinely look pretty good. I don't know if I would

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00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: have the hutzpah to actually eat this stuff, Like I

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00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: would love to say like, oh yeah, I would, no problem,

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00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: Like I'll eat a bug like I wish I could

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00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: say that. No. I mean, I think it's a good

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00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: thing to start to work out, like start to eliminate

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00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: the stigma of eating bugs, because I think they are

857
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: a sustainable, perfectly fine and healthy source of protein. But God,

858
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: cultural indoctrination is so strong it's hard. It is hard

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Speaker 1: to get over. Like some of these things, I'm like,

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00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: I can't. I would have a hard time. But some

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00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: of them do look good, like the kimchi scorpion, which

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00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: is what I think I'm looking at. M I could

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00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: maybe do that. It's hard to wrap my head around, right,

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00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: it looks. The weird thing is it looks appetizing a

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00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: lot of them. But I don't I still don't know

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00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: if I could get past the mental blockade of I'm

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Speaker 1: eating an insect like it's and it's I totally admit

868
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: that's like my fault. It's not, you know, but it's

869
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: sure it's your fault. But it's like, well, not my fault,

870
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: but my own psychologue. It's not that the food is

871
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: objectively gross. It's that my own psychological barriers do not

872
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: want me to eat bugs. The weird thing is ants,

873
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: Like the idea of eating ants is not as gross

874
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 1: to me. That does not bother me either, you know.

875
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: And I wonder if it's because I remember as a

876
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: kid I used to just eat ants out of curios.

877
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: I think it because they're small. They're small, and like

878
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 1: textually there's not there's not like a big crunch factor,

879
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: but there's also there like a sprinkle, right, Yeah, they're

880
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: like sprinkles, Like you sprinkle some ants on my ice cream,

881
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: you know. I mean I'm not going to notice that. Yeah,

882
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: I I'd probably noticed it, to be honest, I might

883
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,479
Speaker 1: not appreciate it, but I might still eat the ice cream,

884
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. But I've definitely eaten like ants.

885
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: I've definitely been at a picnic and have eaten an

886
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: ant like right, that has been on my sandwich. Yeah,

887
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: but like if people people who say they like the

888
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: taste of insects, I trust them, and I trust that

889
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: it probably tastes good. I don't know. I think it

890
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: would take a lot of work for me to get

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00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: over the cultural uh, the cultural norms that I've been

892
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: taught since I was a kid of like don't don't,

893
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: oh God, stop putting that in your mouth. Yeah, it

894
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: would definitely. I I wonder if I looked at this

895
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 1: instagram and wasn't told it was bugs, if it would

896
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: bother me, like my my thing. I think I would.

897
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: I could eat it and like it, but you would

898
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: have to tell me afterwards that it was bugs, right,

899
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: right exactly? I mean if you, for instance, like if

900
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: you have cricket meal, right, because that you eliminate the

901
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: shape of the cricket with that, you grind up crickets

902
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: into a meal, and then you make like cricket meal

903
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: cookies or something, and I eat that cookie, I'll pry

904
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: enjoy it if I'm mid bite and then you're like, hey,

905
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: that's made out of crickets, I'm no no longer going

906
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: to enjoy it. It's all psychological. It's a high precent psychological.

907
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: It's psychological. I I also have like this image of

908
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm wrong, I'm a person who like the

909
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: texture of food. Really, you can bother me. Oh yeah, absolutely,

910
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: I totally understand. YEA super picky because of all, it's

911
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: like a textual thing and it's got nothing to do

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00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: with whether the food is bad or good or anything.

913
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: It's just a I didn't eat mashed potatoes for years

914
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: for my entire childhood because I didn't like the grainy

915
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: texture of it. Yeah yeah, or potatoes at all. I

916
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: didn't like the texture of potatoes really interesting. Yeah yeah,

917
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: I still ate potatoes, but any yeah, anything too mushy

918
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: freaked me out. Uh yeah, So I think that's kind

919
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: of the other block that I feel like a bug

920
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: an insect would have like a deep crunch and then

921
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: a really squishy inside. It depends on the to me

922
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: by Timon and Puma of the Lion King. I don't

923
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: know if that's accurate some of the I mean, maybe not,

924
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: but in my head, and I don't like that some

925
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: of them for sure, like witchety bugs or witchety grubs.

926
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: Do you have, like a cicada would probably be crunchy

927
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: and then really gush. I don't really know if they'd

928
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: have the gusher's effect. Maybe Okay, anyone who's eating bugs

929
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: right into me and give me a full on analysis

930
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: of the mouth feel of different bugs, please, Yeah, maybe

931
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: that will help us get over our mental You know,

932
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: shrimp are basically like marine bugs. But I actually don't

933
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: shrimp break me up sometimes. Yeah, exactly like I think shrimp.

934
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: But if I think too much about what I'm eating,

935
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: I'll stop. I think this might be a you and

936
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: me problem. I think maybe I think I love calamari.

937
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: I love calamari, but like the minute I'm reminded of

938
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: what calamari is, I stop eating it right right right? Yeah?

939
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: I well, yeah, I just like I feel bad when

940
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: I eat octopus because I think they're like the puppies

941
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: of the sea, Like yeah, but yeah, it's yeah, no, no,

942
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm on the same page with you. But uh, but

943
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: we we can talk. We might be weird about about

944
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: every food we don't like. We'll do that off, Mike

945
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: will spare you guys are a long conversation because I

946
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: feel like we're just discovering this about each other and

947
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: we're excited that, like you hate food, I hate food too. Awesome,

948
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: you're a weirdo. Yeah, me too. We that but like

949
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: don't like the mouth field. I also don't like the

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01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: mouth field. This is great. Well, thank you so much

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01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: for being on bridget Where can people find you? Yeah,

952
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. These are always so much fun. Um.

953
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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at bridget tweets and

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Speaker 1: It's about Yes, it's a mouth field podcast of bugs specifically.

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966
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Speaker 1: and as always, I am Katie Golden. I'll be on

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971
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