WEBVTT - Episode 27: Halloween Franchise 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:15.120 Hello, Hello, hello, and welcome to a spooktacular episode of Notificent. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:20.279 We're starting off sp October. Iffy, you're you're all in 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.040 your orange today? Oh yeah, I don't, you know. I 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.160 wish I could be like I did it for the cast, 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.520 but really I just got these new Gatorade jays and 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.279 their orange and I could have gone white with it, 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:34.040 but I was like, let me lean into the orange, 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.360 because well, I guess I did do it for the 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.400 festive reasons. My bad, you know. Yeah, but all this 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:47.440 month we're going to be covering horror, scary, spooky, spooksters, witchcraft. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:52.159 Where are you giggling spooksters, spooks. There's come here and 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.480 get your get your spookies on. I like whenever places 0:00:55.560 --> 0:01:01.440 do like the puns, like you know, Happy Honda Days 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.679 or something. But it's like, yeah, someone on Twitter was 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.880 doing like a whole like I love the Halloween spooky 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:09.880 stuff and the whole long thing on how much they 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.959 love Halloween puns, and then I just replied Google story 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:20.679 bro Yep, we're gonna eat, drink and be scary. Okay, 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:25.440 I think people already over there, um, so today joining 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:29.039 us we are Actually we're starting off with the Halloween franchise, 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:32.760 and we brought someone who is a dope expert. She's 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:37.160 a comedian, a director. We are joined by Lucy Tomlin Brenner. 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:41.759 Thanks for coming. Hello. So you were highly recommended as 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:46.880 someone that like one, you're legit wearing Halloween three to 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.800 that there's like a theme involved. I'm going to dress 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.760 for it. Yeah, oh my god. So what is your 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.840 first memory I guess of Halloween, like the franchise in general, 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.760 when did you start getting into it? Well, actually seeing 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.400 the movies I saw the first was not until college actually, 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.120 but I saw the third one when I was much younger. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.680 The third one, Season of the Witch went out of order. Yeah, 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:10.400 well it's okay with Season of the Witch because it 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.880 has nothing to do with Michael Myers. It's the one 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:17.000 outsider film that has takes place in a totally different universe. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:19.520 It's more science fiction. E um. And that one was 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.280 on late at night on television and my mom actually 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.640 woke me up as a kid and said that she 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.919 was too scared to watch it. And when I come 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:32.560 with her, watch it me a child, mom company um. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.720 And there's a scene where like a kid's head is 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.040 he's wearing a mask and it kind of explodes in 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.320 a gnarly snakes and worms and creepy Crawley's And I 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.640 was like, I'm never going to put a mask on 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:49.079 my head again, like totally absolutely not now, but I 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.200 would say it like last year, probably ten good years 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:54.480 of like I can't all masks are cursed. Mine was. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.800 I don't know if you guys remember the Haunted Mask 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.960 from Goose. Yeah, I had that vh US tape of 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.080 Carly Baxter. She got the mask stuck on her head 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:05.880 and that scared the crap out of me. She could 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.760 not get the mask. That was a scary mask too. 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.799 There are two episodes that were really scared to me. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.280 To me, the Mask one, the mask was scary, but 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:21.040 not necessarily like the theme or what it was was scary. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.919 But that puppet one, oh none of the Living Dummy 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:28.480 Hell yeah, that was like one of the most hardcore 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.079 Goose bump for I don't know if you saw, but 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.400 I did a giveaway of my Twilight Zone toys and 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.160 one of them what figures, and one of them was 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:39.320 the dummy that was again originally a Twilight Zone episode. Yeah, well, 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.760 I mean dummies have been in horror because you have that, 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:46.640 then you have the weird creepy Family Matters Halloween special. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:51.880 Then you have Tales from the Hood with the slave dummies. Also, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.640 I don't know if he counts, but my cousin Skeeter, 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:58.000 uh kind of. I think he had a Halloween episode. 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:59.760 He kind of counts as a dummy. He's a puppet, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.640 but you know puppets, and uh yeah, Night of the 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:06.920 Living Living Dummy is the reason why I never trusted ventriloquists. 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.840 I didn't want to be alone with their dummies. No, 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.520 it makes sense. Like anything that can just sit and 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:18.440 stare at you with dull eyes, it's uh, it feels 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:22.640 like there's something menacing behind it. Yeah, so let's, uh, 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.240 let's talk a little bit about Halloween, because there's a 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:30.320 lot to talk about. Saloween is an American horror franchise 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:36.479 that consists of eleven films, novels, comic books, merchandise, and 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.000 a video game, and the franchise primarily focuses on the 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.240 serial killer Michael Myers, who was committed to a sanitarium 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.680 as a child, which is a cuckoo's nest for those 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.600 who don't know, which is a insane asylum. For those 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.960 who don't know that reference. And uh he was. He 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.159 was basically committed as a child for the murder of 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.359 his older sister, Judith Myers, and then fifteen years later 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.800 he escapes to stalk and all the people of the 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.400 fictional town of hadden Field, Illinois, while being chased by 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:08.760 his former psychiatrist, Dr. Sam Loomis. Michael's killings occur on 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.760 the holiday of Halloween, on which all of the films 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.960 primarily take place. Yeah, yeah, this is this is interesting 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.719 because this was like that kind of trend that was 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:24.920 interesting and I feel like never really revisited, but just 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.520 the idea of there being a time, a killing time, 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.560 a killing out, like even remember the whole thing with 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:35.400 it was that it was to stop um. The original 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.720 it was it was going to be a specific date 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.400 that he comes out, and he kills people every seven years, Yes, 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.440 every seven years, And I feel like that is like 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:49.160 a very because horror at its core is preying on 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:56.000 human fears, and I think the knowledge of when it happens, 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.760 it's gonna happen. Yeah, I like that a lot because 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.520 it means that it's inevitable. Yeah, like, no matter what 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.479 you do, the calendar is going to keep rolling and 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:09.680 Michael Myers has that Ernie's Cross of the Days. Yeah. 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.400 Our producer Dan just said the Purge, yeah, which is 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.240 a more recent one. Um, I have a couple. So 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.520 I rewatched this last night. I have a I mean, 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.560 you know, I'm gonna I was that obnoxious person. I 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.840 was watching it again. I'm like, but why this? But wait, 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.480 that doesn't make sense. But you know what, overall it 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.760 was groundbreaking because it was an indie horror film. Yeah, 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.880 three thou dollars ext and actually I think so I 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:36.640 was looking at twenty five thousand of that went to 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:40.200 Donald Pleasants, who was the only like actually known actor 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.920 that wasn't He played Dr Loomis, and so everybody else 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.000 was pretty much not well known. Jamie Lee Curtis they 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:50.000 went with because of her mom, who was the original 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.600 you would know it as this the scream Queen from 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:58.560 Um Psycho and Touch of Evil. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:00.839 and so but this was the first thing really that 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.840 Jamie Lee Curtis had had been in, I think because 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.640 says Breakout Row. Yeah, it says in the in the 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:10.440 opening credits, it is introducing Jamie Lee Curtis, and she 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.480 had a good scream thing. That's why she became a 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.720 scream queen. She has this amazing blood curdling shriek that 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.720 really been displayed. I feel yeah, yeah, and I feel 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.840 that Era has died of being screaming. I mean MTV 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.640 even had the Scream Queen's Reality show. Did you ever 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.000 watch that? Yeah, And it's all about you know, you 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:31.880 had to you had to have that scream and then 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.840 you because yeah, you had Scream the actual movie, you 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:39.840 had Halloween, Chainsaw Massacre, and then you started getting I 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.880 think horror started moving more into where it became kind 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.320 of like a gore fest like your Saw movies. Yeah, 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.560 well when Saw came out and was it like two 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.000 thousand and two or two thousand and three, that was 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:55.400 totally changed the genre. Moved everything away from slasher or 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.520 an unknown killer and made it more about like how 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.760 can we intricately take the human body apart? Yeah, it's 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.880 like not really my thing, Like I love horrors yet 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:10.280 I think I did want to say, I just shot 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.920 a pilot with Barbara Crampton and she is a scream 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.680 queen for sure, and so we shot it. It It was 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.360 produced by Fan Gloria and it was a Ghost Hunting Pilot. 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.000 But like her fans because I was like tagged in 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.560 her pictures with her, her fans are ravenous. Like it's 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.800 really funny. Like a lot of horror and indie horror 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.720 people are like in love with that and they follow 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.800 those actors throughout their films. Oh absolutely, I mean horror 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.439 conventions are so huge, and that's where like a lot 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.280 of these women and small actors who like had this 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:41.800 thriving career and like VHS tape, basically, they really are 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.400 still operating pretty well underneath the surface. We just don't 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.280 know that. It's like I've waited in lines before for 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:49.839 people and I've come back and been like, look at 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:51.520 this first thing I met, and it only hits for 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.520 very few people are excited for me. So you know, 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.440 you guys know, being nerds, you just have to like 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:02.040 turn to your niche and be like you sure for sure. Yeah, 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.240 let's talk a little bit about the man who made 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:09.160 this film, John Carpenter. So he was pretty much fresh 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:12.840 out of film school. Yeah when he when he decided 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.840 to make this again. Their budget was three hundred thousand, 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:19.400 and he also did the music, the very iconic famous 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.200 I love music, so much. I was just I was 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.079 rewatching yesterday. I did like a little marathon because I 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:26.920 was like, I want to get everything fresh in my head. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.160 So I like pounded all um, not all eleven, but 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:35.320 the original non rob zombie ones in the last So 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.800 you also got H two O in there. Oh I 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:39.360 love H two O. I don't know if now the 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:40.959 tie we're talking about it, but that one is, so 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.800 we'll talk about it. Had and then the one after 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:49.960 they half busta rhymes Tyra Banks. Yeah, well that one was. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.400 Those are interesting because you brought up Scream earlier, and 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:57.280 Scream was revolutionary for bringing in teams that people already knew, 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.040 and it's like names that were already big instead of 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.960 like these had teenage like the original Halloween had teenagers, 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.640 but there were no names. Wes Craven was like, what 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.000 if we brought in like a pop culture bent by 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.720 not only having the references but also having you know, 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.920 faces people recognized. And so then H two oh saw 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.320 the success of Scream and was like, let's bring in 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:20.120 these hot teens Josh Hartnett and Hello cool J not 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.200 teen anymore at that time, but I mean yeah, I 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:28.040 mean hello coo J. At the time. How old was he? 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.160 He seems ageless to me, but I feel like he 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.480 had to have been in his late Oh wow, yep, 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.959 I have no idea how years old? I said, fifty 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:44.679 nine years old? Oh that wow. H Uo came out 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.920 and h Uo was twenty years later. That's wild. I 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.600 just made that connection. How I really feel like this? Okay, 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.320 you're right. If my masculine were all over the place there, 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.000 Oh yeah, no, mine, mine was. I was just doing 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.320 all that talking to me time, so I can just 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.720 say the right one. Dennis isn't the math expert pe 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:10.920 uh So? John Carpenter actually teamed up with Deborah Hill 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.120 and they wrote this together. So previously she hadn't been 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.920 She was a script supervisor in Assault on Precinct thirteen. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.520 That's when they originally worked together. So then it was 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.120 kind of a big move for her to now be 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.840 a screenwriter on Halloween, isn't it? And there weren't really 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.280 a lot of women involved in horror either, because especially 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.760 in the seventies and like the sixties, at grindhouse and 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.840 exploitation and films were really where horror was thriving. And 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.320 that was definitely like all dudes. Yeah, so she she 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.680 was actually born in hayden Field. And then you'll see 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.120 that that was been in New Jersey and that was 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.520 the name of the town that they were in, except 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.800 for in Illinois and it doesn't exist it right, and 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.280 it doesn't exist. Yeah, a lot of the places don't 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.440 like the stranger things. Where do they live again or 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.720 is that a real place? It's not a real place. 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.640 Um oh shoot, it's like on all their on the 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.440 tip of my tongue. I just that small commercial for 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:05.080 it again. I think they do that just so that 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:09.240 people don't flock to a plan. Sure, yeah, everybody always 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.880 goes and visits the Oh shoot, what am I trying 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:14.840 to say? That? Everyone always goes the Home Alone House 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:19.800 in Chicago and the full House House San Francis, and 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.360 then the blank Check House is actually in Austin because 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.199 when I went to school at u T there you 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.120 could go and see it. It does not have a 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.000 slide that goes from the office to the pool out 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.640 like like they would lead you to Belie appointing. Well, 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.520 this was filmed in Pasadena, so we could actually go 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.200 see that since we wanted to, which I went to 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.960 Downey High which uh in Downey they have the golf 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.680 and stuff that's featured in Karate Kid. Uh. And you 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.680 know what, forget that place because when I was seventeen, 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.280 they did not accept my they did not hire me 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.000 when I put in a job application. I'm surprised to 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.160 even mentioning it right people. I wanted to know so 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.560 people can if they're seeing it drive away like someone's 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.960 in their car. Are stuff right now? They're like, all right, 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:04.960 if you said we got a dip. I want to 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.920 talk about two really cool things. One. I like the 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.000 fact that they were showing the thing, the original thing 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.240 on the TV, because then he later ended up directing it, 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.920 so that was super cool. It must have been a 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.600 favorite of his already. Yeah, influential is why he had 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.360 it in there. So um for y'all that don't remember, 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.080 they were watching the two little kids were watching, uh, 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.200 the one that Jamie Lee Curtis was a babysitting Tommy 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:32.559 who actually Cammy later. Yeah. And then who was the 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:37.280 other girl's name, Lindsay? Lindsay because her babysitter Annie, who 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.480 is the friend Laurie's friends like, screams her name many 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.720 many times. True. Yeah, And so they were watching the 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.040 thing the original thing and uh, and that was really 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.400 dope because then John Carpenter ended up directing the thing. Uh. 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.480 And then another thing was that you actually didn't have 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.520 very much blood. A lot of people think that there's 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:54.920 a lot of blood because there is a lot of 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.040 like stabbing and strangling and even like him slicing people 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.480 in the neck, but they chose to not have blood, 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.160 and it's so fascinating or not very much of it. 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:07.120 It's fascinating because they were like, it's more of your imagination. 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.760 So if you remember someone getting sliced in the neck, 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.120 like they didn't actually show any blood, that's just your 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.520 own mind like creating that for you. And the sound 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.880 is so crisp too, Like I love the sound in 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.200 that movie because every knife slash it gives me chills 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.960 because it has like a very like ging like, so 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.760 I feel like that, coupled with the imaginative aspects of 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:32.320 it are really hopeful. Yeah. Yeah. Irwin Yablins is an 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.440 American independent film producer and distributor known for his work 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:39.120 in the horror film industry. His brother, Frank Jablin's, was 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:44.200 also a producer. He produced Jaws, Halloween, Tourist, Trap, Roller Boogie, 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:49.040 Nocturna God daughter of Dracula, Halloween to Hell, Night Blood Beach, 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.080 Halloween three, Season of The Witch, the shirt in which 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:57.720 Louse is wearing, and Tank Halloween begin as an idea 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.320 suggested by the Yablans entitled The Babysitter Murder. Yeah, that 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.680 was that was their thing. It's so great that they 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.520 ditched that. Can you imagine this having this much commercial 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:11.400 success with that? M Yeah, exactly. A babysitting is hard 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:12.840 and I've done it for most of my life and 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:14.360 we don't need that kind of heat. It is kind 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.400 of scary, and it is still like, you know, I 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.640 think they use that and scream, you know, the babysitting 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:22.680 you know that theme and um in when a stranger calls, right, 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.960 Like it's scary being in somebody else's house, right, I um. 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.000 I've nannied out a place before that. Um was up 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:30.800 in the hills and it was all glass. So at 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.640 night it's dark, you can see out, but you don't 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.320 know who can see and at you because you can't 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.520 see anything. So I feel like it creates, especially with teenagers. 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.440 I feel like a lot of people babysit on their teens. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.080 So that idea of like you're in somebody else's house. 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.360 You don't know the ins and outs, and like these 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.400 aren't your kids, but you're supposed to protect them. There's 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.720 a lot of different levels of anxiety going. But also 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.080 just how they like completely capitalize on this holiday, like 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.800 they took the name they took Halloween. I mean that's 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:01.280 usually like oddly enough, I feel a aren't bet if 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.640 you think of it on a commercial level, because if 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.880 you label a movie to a holiday, then you get 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.720 those sweet residuals all the time, like Sinbad's rolling in 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:15.200 the dough from Jingle all the way, because every Christmas 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:19.440 it's a staple, you know, Sam with Mariah carry that Christmas, 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.280 Alva Christmas. That's that is who she is. No, it's true. 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.320 I remember, well, you're asking me what I remember from 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:26.720 when I was a kid. And even though I didn't 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.440 watch these when I was a kid, I grew up 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.560 in the late eighties and early nineties, and this was 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.800 on network TV. Every I remember coming home from trick 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:35.360 or treat and it would be on the TV and 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.040 I would be too scared and I'd have to go 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.040 into another room, Which is funny now looking back on it, 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.080 because you said it's not that bloody, it's not actually 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.280 that scary, but just like the menacing nous of Michael 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:46.920 Myers and the idea that he was going to come 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.600 on Halloween and I'm like, Halloween's a nice time. Yeah, 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.640 I didn't like that as a child. Also, the way 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.160 that he was shot, I mean, I feel like that 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.400 was also kind of groundbreaking. And Carpenter's idea of the 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.600 Shape you know, which is his other name that he's 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.360 known as, kind of just like this thing that's lurking. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.879 UM is also another another part of it, and I 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.760 think a big part of UM, like congratulations goes to 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.440 Nick Castle, who played the Shape in the first movie 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.600 and then never did again until he is going to 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.280 be in David Gordon Green, I know, going to be 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.320 the most the one that's coming out, Yeah, in a 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.560 few weeks, well less then depending on when this airs. Um, 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:25.800 but yeah, I'm really excited about his return because, UM, 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.800 I love I watched all of the movies. I like 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:29.760 all the iterations. I think they all have something interesting 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.080 going for them, but none of them Michaels are quite 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.040 as like big and menacing. They don't move the same 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.919 way Nikesla. This lumbering aspect to him. That made it 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:44.000 also feel supernatural. That and the whole fact that he 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:47.359 could keep coming back, and like other iterations of Michael 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.520 are a little more awkward, and he doesn't seem as 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.639 big a lot of it is I think. I know. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.720 I was watching him like he's he's a little thick, 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:56.680 Like I'm kind of into it. He's kind of hot. 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.000 He's kind of hot. It's crazy he's supposed to be 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.359 twenty one. Oh that's another thing together last the first 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.000 time you want to like just kind of smack him 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.320 in the face and be like get over yourself. Yeah, 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:12.880 hown you go to a party. Uh, smoke some weed, baby. Yeah, 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.360 let's talk about Michael Meyers. So he is twenty one, 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.919 seems perpetually forty for sure. I mean. And here's the 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.320 thing though, so that opening, that opening scene with him 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.560 as a kid, it's fascinating because as him, as you know, 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:27.480 he kills his sister and then they pull his mask 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.800 off and he looks like this adorable little elf. Like 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.520 I said, he's cute. That is kind of fascinating to 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.600 me because later Dr Loomis was like, yeah, and I 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.720 met him when fifteen years ago, and he was six 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.439 years old. He had black eyes and I'm likely we 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.440 saw him he did it. He had like blue eyes. 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:47.679 He was adorable. He was really cute. He looked like 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.800 a you know, cabbage patch kid. Um, so I found 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.159 that fascinating. But they did make him really cute. And 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:54.879 then when they pulled his mask off, I was like, 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.320 he kind of hot. He's kind of hot. I like 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:00.720 to imagine that they wanted the kid to make like 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:04.080 a mean face, but he was just cute and they're like, 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.000 I just leave it in now. I feel like he 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:11.240 had to have been like a friend's kid. I love 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.400 that his his parents are just like, Michael, what did 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:15.560 you do? And then they just stood there for like 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:19.400 a minute, just look. I'm like, why don't you run inside? Yeah, 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.720 but this was another one. I love. What's the movie? 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.879 I think it is Scream where they dissect the fact 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:31.120 that the virgins live and the quote unquote slutty kids don't. Yeah, 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:36.720 this was this was trope. Yeah, definitely, but um John 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.280 Carpenter has actually said in interviews before that he wasn't 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:41.600 trying to do that on purpose, which I actually like 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:45.440 on respect a lot, because um like a morality play 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.520 on virginity from a man is like not what I 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:50.240 mean to So I really like that. He was like, 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:52.720 this is just I was trying to portray teens as 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.280 they are and like that's that wasn't a part of it. Yeah, 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:59.080 and I really watching it again. Um, I was just 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:01.080 thinking about how much her friends reminded me of my 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:02.960 friends in high school. You're just like kind of mean 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:04.960 to each other, but you're like really good friends and 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.840 you're just like messing with each other. And like Laurie 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:09.840 is always played up as like the good girl, but 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.920 she and her friend Annie are smoking pot in the car, 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:15.400 so it's not like she's not the perfect girl. She's 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.520 studious and like she like hasn't had sex, but like, 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.159 come on, they're all just having fun. Yeah. As a 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.520 matter of fact, Yeah, we have a quote from Carpenter 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:27.359 saying that Halloween is a true cress exploitation and I 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:29.439 decided to make a film I would love to have 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:31.919 seen as a kid, full of cheap tricks, like a 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.439 haunted house at a fair where you walked down the 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:37.159 corridor and things you're back at you. The film has 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.520 often been cited as an allegory on the virtue of 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.960 sexual purity and the danger of casual sex. Though a 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.840 Man's Carpenter has explained that this was not the intent. 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.840 He has said and I quote. It has been suggested 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.359 that I was making some kind of moral standpoint. Believe me, 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:54.240 I'm not. In Halloween, I viewed the characters as simply 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:58.879 normal last teenagers. I've added the ass was interview. I 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:02.680 think that's how I imagine I'm saying it. Like, yeah, 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.399 I'm really glad that he clarified that. Yeah, because it 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:11.840 is interesting because but because that is the interesting thing 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:15.760 about art and the difficult thing about creating it is 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:17.959 you tell the story you want to tell, and you 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.040