Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, hello, and welcome to a spooktacular episode of Notificent.
Speaker 1: We're starting off sp October. Iffy, you're you're all in
Speaker 1: your orange today? Oh yeah, I don't, you know. I
Speaker 1: wish I could be like I did it for the cast,
Speaker 1: but really I just got these new Gatorade jays and
Speaker 1: their orange and I could have gone white with it,
Speaker 1: but I was like, let me lean into the orange,
Speaker 1: because well, I guess I did do it for the
Speaker 1: festive reasons. My bad, you know. Yeah, but all this
Speaker 1: month we're going to be covering horror, scary, spooky, spooksters, witchcraft.
Speaker 1: Where are you giggling spooksters, spooks. There's come here and
Speaker 1: get your get your spookies on. I like whenever places
Speaker 1: do like the puns, like you know, Happy Honda Days
Speaker 1: or something. But it's like, yeah, someone on Twitter was
Speaker 1: doing like a whole like I love the Halloween spooky
Speaker 1: stuff and the whole long thing on how much they
Speaker 1: love Halloween puns, and then I just replied Google story
Speaker 1: bro Yep, we're gonna eat, drink and be scary. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think people already over there, um, so today joining
Speaker 1: us we are Actually we're starting off with the Halloween franchise,
Speaker 1: and we brought someone who is a dope expert. She's
Speaker 1: a comedian, a director. We are joined by Lucy Tomlin Brenner.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming. Hello. So you were highly recommended as
Speaker 1: someone that like one, you're legit wearing Halloween three to
Speaker 1: that there's like a theme involved. I'm going to dress
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, oh my god. So what is your
Speaker 1: first memory I guess of Halloween, like the franchise in general,
Speaker 1: when did you start getting into it? Well, actually seeing
Speaker 1: the movies I saw the first was not until college actually,
Speaker 1: but I saw the third one when I was much younger.
Speaker 1: The third one, Season of the Witch went out of order. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's okay with Season of the Witch because it
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with Michael Myers. It's the one
Speaker 1: outsider film that has takes place in a totally different universe.
Speaker 1: It's more science fiction. E um. And that one was
Speaker 1: on late at night on television and my mom actually
Speaker 1: woke me up as a kid and said that she
Speaker 1: was too scared to watch it. And when I come
Speaker 1: with her, watch it me a child, mom company um.
Speaker 1: And there's a scene where like a kid's head is
Speaker 1: he's wearing a mask and it kind of explodes in
Speaker 1: a gnarly snakes and worms and creepy Crawley's And I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm never going to put a mask on
Speaker 1: my head again, like totally absolutely not now, but I
Speaker 1: would say it like last year, probably ten good years
Speaker 1: of like I can't all masks are cursed. Mine was.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember the Haunted Mask
Speaker 1: from Goose. Yeah, I had that vh US tape of
Speaker 1: Carly Baxter. She got the mask stuck on her head
Speaker 1: and that scared the crap out of me. She could
Speaker 1: not get the mask. That was a scary mask too.
Speaker 1: There are two episodes that were really scared to me.
Speaker 1: To me, the Mask one, the mask was scary, but
Speaker 1: not necessarily like the theme or what it was was scary.
Speaker 1: But that puppet one, oh none of the Living Dummy
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, that was like one of the most hardcore
Speaker 1: Goose bump for I don't know if you saw, but
Speaker 1: I did a giveaway of my Twilight Zone toys and
Speaker 1: one of them what figures, and one of them was
Speaker 1: the dummy that was again originally a Twilight Zone episode. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean dummies have been in horror because you have that,
Speaker 1: then you have the weird creepy Family Matters Halloween special.
Speaker 1: Then you have Tales from the Hood with the slave dummies. Also,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he counts, but my cousin Skeeter,
Speaker 1: uh kind of. I think he had a Halloween episode.
Speaker 1: He kind of counts as a dummy. He's a puppet,
Speaker 1: but you know puppets, and uh yeah, Night of the
Speaker 1: Living Living Dummy is the reason why I never trusted ventriloquists.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be alone with their dummies. No,
Speaker 1: it makes sense. Like anything that can just sit and
Speaker 1: stare at you with dull eyes, it's uh, it feels
Speaker 1: like there's something menacing behind it. Yeah, so let's, uh,
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about Halloween, because there's a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about. Saloween is an American horror franchise
Speaker 1: that consists of eleven films, novels, comic books, merchandise, and
Speaker 1: a video game, and the franchise primarily focuses on the
Speaker 1: serial killer Michael Myers, who was committed to a sanitarium
Speaker 1: as a child, which is a cuckoo's nest for those
Speaker 1: who don't know, which is a insane asylum. For those
Speaker 1: who don't know that reference. And uh he was. He
Speaker 1: was basically committed as a child for the murder of
Speaker 1: his older sister, Judith Myers, and then fifteen years later
Speaker 1: he escapes to stalk and all the people of the
Speaker 1: fictional town of hadden Field, Illinois, while being chased by
Speaker 1: his former psychiatrist, Dr. Sam Loomis. Michael's killings occur on
Speaker 1: the holiday of Halloween, on which all of the films
Speaker 1: primarily take place. Yeah, yeah, this is this is interesting
Speaker 1: because this was like that kind of trend that was
Speaker 1: interesting and I feel like never really revisited, but just
Speaker 1: the idea of there being a time, a killing time,
Speaker 1: a killing out, like even remember the whole thing with
Speaker 1: it was that it was to stop um. The original
Speaker 1: it was it was going to be a specific date
Speaker 1: that he comes out, and he kills people every seven years, Yes,
Speaker 1: every seven years, And I feel like that is like
Speaker 1: a very because horror at its core is preying on
Speaker 1: human fears, and I think the knowledge of when it happens,
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. Yeah, I like that a lot because
Speaker 1: it means that it's inevitable. Yeah, like, no matter what
Speaker 1: you do, the calendar is going to keep rolling and
Speaker 1: Michael Myers has that Ernie's Cross of the Days. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Our producer Dan just said the Purge, yeah, which is
Speaker 1: a more recent one. Um, I have a couple. So
Speaker 1: I rewatched this last night. I have a I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna I was that obnoxious person. I
Speaker 1: was watching it again. I'm like, but why this? But wait,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. But you know what, overall it
Speaker 1: was groundbreaking because it was an indie horror film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: three thou dollars ext and actually I think so I
Speaker 1: was looking at twenty five thousand of that went to
Speaker 1: Donald Pleasants, who was the only like actually known actor
Speaker 1: that wasn't He played Dr Loomis, and so everybody else
Speaker 1: was pretty much not well known. Jamie Lee Curtis they
Speaker 1: went with because of her mom, who was the original
Speaker 1: you would know it as this the scream Queen from
Speaker 1: Um Psycho and Touch of Evil. Yes, yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so but this was the first thing really that
Speaker 1: Jamie Lee Curtis had had been in, I think because
Speaker 1: says Breakout Row. Yeah, it says in the in the
Speaker 1: opening credits, it is introducing Jamie Lee Curtis, and she
Speaker 1: had a good scream thing. That's why she became a
Speaker 1: scream queen. She has this amazing blood curdling shriek that
Speaker 1: really been displayed. I feel yeah, yeah, and I feel
Speaker 1: that Era has died of being screaming. I mean MTV
Speaker 1: even had the Scream Queen's Reality show. Did you ever
Speaker 1: watch that? Yeah, And it's all about you know, you
Speaker 1: had to you had to have that scream and then
Speaker 1: you because yeah, you had Scream the actual movie, you
Speaker 1: had Halloween, Chainsaw Massacre, and then you started getting I
Speaker 1: think horror started moving more into where it became kind
Speaker 1: of like a gore fest like your Saw movies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well when Saw came out and was it like two
Speaker 1: thousand and two or two thousand and three, that was
Speaker 1: totally changed the genre. Moved everything away from slasher or
Speaker 1: an unknown killer and made it more about like how
Speaker 1: can we intricately take the human body apart? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like not really my thing, Like I love horrors yet
Speaker 1: I think I did want to say, I just shot
Speaker 1: a pilot with Barbara Crampton and she is a scream
Speaker 1: queen for sure, and so we shot it. It It was
Speaker 1: produced by Fan Gloria and it was a Ghost Hunting Pilot.
Speaker 1: But like her fans because I was like tagged in
Speaker 1: her pictures with her, her fans are ravenous. Like it's
Speaker 1: really funny. Like a lot of horror and indie horror
Speaker 1: people are like in love with that and they follow
Speaker 1: those actors throughout their films. Oh absolutely, I mean horror
Speaker 1: conventions are so huge, and that's where like a lot
Speaker 1: of these women and small actors who like had this
Speaker 1: thriving career and like VHS tape, basically, they really are
Speaker 1: still operating pretty well underneath the surface. We just don't
Speaker 1: know that. It's like I've waited in lines before for
Speaker 1: people and I've come back and been like, look at
Speaker 1: this first thing I met, and it only hits for
Speaker 1: very few people are excited for me. So you know,
Speaker 1: you guys know, being nerds, you just have to like
Speaker 1: turn to your niche and be like you sure for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about the man who made
Speaker 1: this film, John Carpenter. So he was pretty much fresh
Speaker 1: out of film school. Yeah when he when he decided
Speaker 1: to make this again. Their budget was three hundred thousand,
Speaker 1: and he also did the music, the very iconic famous
Speaker 1: I love music, so much. I was just I was
Speaker 1: rewatching yesterday. I did like a little marathon because I
Speaker 1: was like, I want to get everything fresh in my head.
Speaker 1: So I like pounded all um, not all eleven, but
Speaker 1: the original non rob zombie ones in the last So
Speaker 1: you also got H two O in there. Oh I
Speaker 1: love H two O. I don't know if now the
Speaker 1: tie we're talking about it, but that one is, so
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. Had and then the one after
Speaker 1: they half busta rhymes Tyra Banks. Yeah, well that one was.
Speaker 1: Those are interesting because you brought up Scream earlier, and
Speaker 1: Scream was revolutionary for bringing in teams that people already knew,
Speaker 1: and it's like names that were already big instead of
Speaker 1: like these had teenage like the original Halloween had teenagers,
Speaker 1: but there were no names. Wes Craven was like, what
Speaker 1: if we brought in like a pop culture bent by
Speaker 1: not only having the references but also having you know,
Speaker 1: faces people recognized. And so then H two oh saw
Speaker 1: the success of Scream and was like, let's bring in
Speaker 1: these hot teens Josh Hartnett and Hello cool J not
Speaker 1: teen anymore at that time, but I mean yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean hello coo J. At the time. How old was he?
Speaker 1: He seems ageless to me, but I feel like he
Speaker 1: had to have been in his late Oh wow, yep,
Speaker 1: I have no idea how years old? I said, fifty
Speaker 1: nine years old? Oh that wow. H Uo came out
Speaker 1: and h Uo was twenty years later. That's wild. I
Speaker 1: just made that connection. How I really feel like this? Okay,
Speaker 1: you're right. If my masculine were all over the place there,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, mine, mine was. I was just doing
Speaker 1: all that talking to me time, so I can just
Speaker 1: say the right one. Dennis isn't the math expert pe
Speaker 1: uh So? John Carpenter actually teamed up with Deborah Hill
Speaker 1: and they wrote this together. So previously she hadn't been
Speaker 1: She was a script supervisor in Assault on Precinct thirteen.
Speaker 1: That's when they originally worked together. So then it was
Speaker 1: kind of a big move for her to now be
Speaker 1: a screenwriter on Halloween, isn't it? And there weren't really
Speaker 1: a lot of women involved in horror either, because especially
Speaker 1: in the seventies and like the sixties, at grindhouse and
Speaker 1: exploitation and films were really where horror was thriving. And
Speaker 1: that was definitely like all dudes. Yeah, so she she
Speaker 1: was actually born in hayden Field. And then you'll see
Speaker 1: that that was been in New Jersey and that was
Speaker 1: the name of the town that they were in, except
Speaker 1: for in Illinois and it doesn't exist it right, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't exist. Yeah, a lot of the places don't
Speaker 1: like the stranger things. Where do they live again or
Speaker 1: is that a real place? It's not a real place.
Speaker 1: Um oh shoot, it's like on all their on the
Speaker 1: tip of my tongue. I just that small commercial for
Speaker 1: it again. I think they do that just so that
Speaker 1: people don't flock to a plan. Sure, yeah, everybody always
Speaker 1: goes and visits the Oh shoot, what am I trying
Speaker 1: to say? That? Everyone always goes the Home Alone House
Speaker 1: in Chicago and the full House House San Francis, and
Speaker 1: then the blank Check House is actually in Austin because
Speaker 1: when I went to school at u T there you
Speaker 1: could go and see it. It does not have a
Speaker 1: slide that goes from the office to the pool out
Speaker 1: like like they would lead you to Belie appointing. Well,
Speaker 1: this was filmed in Pasadena, so we could actually go
Speaker 1: see that since we wanted to, which I went to
Speaker 1: Downey High which uh in Downey they have the golf
Speaker 1: and stuff that's featured in Karate Kid. Uh. And you
Speaker 1: know what, forget that place because when I was seventeen,
Speaker 1: they did not accept my they did not hire me
Speaker 1: when I put in a job application. I'm surprised to
Speaker 1: even mentioning it right people. I wanted to know so
Speaker 1: people can if they're seeing it drive away like someone's
Speaker 1: in their car. Are stuff right now? They're like, all right,
Speaker 1: if you said we got a dip. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about two really cool things. One. I like the
Speaker 1: fact that they were showing the thing, the original thing
Speaker 1: on the TV, because then he later ended up directing it,
Speaker 1: so that was super cool. It must have been a
Speaker 1: favorite of his already. Yeah, influential is why he had
Speaker 1: it in there. So um for y'all that don't remember,
Speaker 1: they were watching the two little kids were watching, uh,
Speaker 1: the one that Jamie Lee Curtis was a babysitting Tommy
Speaker 1: who actually Cammy later. Yeah. And then who was the
Speaker 1: other girl's name, Lindsay? Lindsay because her babysitter Annie, who
Speaker 1: is the friend Laurie's friends like, screams her name many
Speaker 1: many times. True. Yeah, And so they were watching the
Speaker 1: thing the original thing and uh, and that was really
Speaker 1: dope because then John Carpenter ended up directing the thing. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then another thing was that you actually didn't have
Speaker 1: very much blood. A lot of people think that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of blood because there is a lot of
Speaker 1: like stabbing and strangling and even like him slicing people
Speaker 1: in the neck, but they chose to not have blood,
Speaker 1: and it's so fascinating or not very much of it.
Speaker 1: It's fascinating because they were like, it's more of your imagination.
Speaker 1: So if you remember someone getting sliced in the neck,
Speaker 1: like they didn't actually show any blood, that's just your
Speaker 1: own mind like creating that for you. And the sound
Speaker 1: is so crisp too, Like I love the sound in
Speaker 1: that movie because every knife slash it gives me chills
Speaker 1: because it has like a very like ging like, so
Speaker 1: I feel like that, coupled with the imaginative aspects of
Speaker 1: it are really hopeful. Yeah. Yeah. Irwin Yablins is an
Speaker 1: American independent film producer and distributor known for his work
Speaker 1: in the horror film industry. His brother, Frank Jablin's, was
Speaker 1: also a producer. He produced Jaws, Halloween, Tourist, Trap, Roller Boogie,
Speaker 1: Nocturna God daughter of Dracula, Halloween to Hell, Night Blood Beach,
Speaker 1: Halloween three, Season of The Witch, the shirt in which
Speaker 1: Louse is wearing, and Tank Halloween begin as an idea
Speaker 1: suggested by the Yablans entitled The Babysitter Murder. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that was their thing. It's so great that they
Speaker 1: ditched that. Can you imagine this having this much commercial
Speaker 1: success with that? M Yeah, exactly. A babysitting is hard
Speaker 1: and I've done it for most of my life and
Speaker 1: we don't need that kind of heat. It is kind
Speaker 1: of scary, and it is still like, you know, I
Speaker 1: think they use that and scream, you know, the babysitting
Speaker 1: you know that theme and um in when a stranger calls, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's scary being in somebody else's house, right, I um.
Speaker 1: I've nannied out a place before that. Um was up
Speaker 1: in the hills and it was all glass. So at
Speaker 1: night it's dark, you can see out, but you don't
Speaker 1: know who can see and at you because you can't
Speaker 1: see anything. So I feel like it creates, especially with teenagers.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people babysit on their teens.
Speaker 1: So that idea of like you're in somebody else's house.
Speaker 1: You don't know the ins and outs, and like these
Speaker 1: aren't your kids, but you're supposed to protect them. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of different levels of anxiety going. But also
Speaker 1: just how they like completely capitalize on this holiday, like
Speaker 1: they took the name they took Halloween. I mean that's
Speaker 1: usually like oddly enough, I feel a aren't bet if
Speaker 1: you think of it on a commercial level, because if
Speaker 1: you label a movie to a holiday, then you get
Speaker 1: those sweet residuals all the time, like Sinbad's rolling in
Speaker 1: the dough from Jingle all the way, because every Christmas
Speaker 1: it's a staple, you know, Sam with Mariah carry that Christmas,
Speaker 1: Alva Christmas. That's that is who she is. No, it's true.
Speaker 1: I remember, well, you're asking me what I remember from
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. And even though I didn't
Speaker 1: watch these when I was a kid, I grew up
Speaker 1: in the late eighties and early nineties, and this was
Speaker 1: on network TV. Every I remember coming home from trick
Speaker 1: or treat and it would be on the TV and
Speaker 1: I would be too scared and I'd have to go
Speaker 1: into another room, Which is funny now looking back on it,
Speaker 1: because you said it's not that bloody, it's not actually
Speaker 1: that scary, but just like the menacing nous of Michael
Speaker 1: Myers and the idea that he was going to come
Speaker 1: on Halloween and I'm like, Halloween's a nice time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't like that as a child. Also, the way
Speaker 1: that he was shot, I mean, I feel like that
Speaker 1: was also kind of groundbreaking. And Carpenter's idea of the
Speaker 1: Shape you know, which is his other name that he's
Speaker 1: known as, kind of just like this thing that's lurking.
Speaker 1: UM is also another another part of it, and I
Speaker 1: think a big part of UM, like congratulations goes to
Speaker 1: Nick Castle, who played the Shape in the first movie
Speaker 1: and then never did again until he is going to
Speaker 1: be in David Gordon Green, I know, going to be
Speaker 1: the most the one that's coming out, Yeah, in a
Speaker 1: few weeks, well less then depending on when this airs. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm really excited about his return because, UM,
Speaker 1: I love I watched all of the movies. I like
Speaker 1: all the iterations. I think they all have something interesting
Speaker 1: going for them, but none of them Michaels are quite
Speaker 1: as like big and menacing. They don't move the same
Speaker 1: way Nikesla. This lumbering aspect to him. That made it
Speaker 1: also feel supernatural. That and the whole fact that he
Speaker 1: could keep coming back, and like other iterations of Michael
Speaker 1: are a little more awkward, and he doesn't seem as
Speaker 1: big a lot of it is I think. I know.
Speaker 1: I was watching him like he's he's a little thick,
Speaker 1: Like I'm kind of into it. He's kind of hot.
Speaker 1: He's kind of hot. It's crazy he's supposed to be
Speaker 1: twenty one. Oh that's another thing together last the first
Speaker 1: time you want to like just kind of smack him
Speaker 1: in the face and be like get over yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hown you go to a party. Uh, smoke some weed, baby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Michael Meyers. So he is twenty one,
Speaker 1: seems perpetually forty for sure. I mean. And here's the
Speaker 1: thing though, so that opening, that opening scene with him
Speaker 1: as a kid, it's fascinating because as him, as you know,
Speaker 1: he kills his sister and then they pull his mask
Speaker 1: off and he looks like this adorable little elf. Like
Speaker 1: I said, he's cute. That is kind of fascinating to
Speaker 1: me because later Dr Loomis was like, yeah, and I
Speaker 1: met him when fifteen years ago, and he was six
Speaker 1: years old. He had black eyes and I'm likely we
Speaker 1: saw him he did it. He had like blue eyes.
Speaker 1: He was adorable. He was really cute. He looked like
Speaker 1: a you know, cabbage patch kid. Um, so I found
Speaker 1: that fascinating. But they did make him really cute. And
Speaker 1: then when they pulled his mask off, I was like,
Speaker 1: he kind of hot. He's kind of hot. I like
Speaker 1: to imagine that they wanted the kid to make like
Speaker 1: a mean face, but he was just cute and they're like,
Speaker 1: I just leave it in now. I feel like he
Speaker 1: had to have been like a friend's kid. I love
Speaker 1: that his his parents are just like, Michael, what did
Speaker 1: you do? And then they just stood there for like
Speaker 1: a minute, just look. I'm like, why don't you run inside? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this was another one. I love. What's the movie?
Speaker 1: I think it is Scream where they dissect the fact
Speaker 1: that the virgins live and the quote unquote slutty kids don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was this was trope. Yeah, definitely, but um John
Speaker 1: Carpenter has actually said in interviews before that he wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to do that on purpose, which I actually like
Speaker 1: on respect a lot, because um like a morality play
Speaker 1: on virginity from a man is like not what I
Speaker 1: mean to So I really like that. He was like,
Speaker 1: this is just I was trying to portray teens as
Speaker 1: they are and like that's that wasn't a part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I really watching it again. Um, I was just
Speaker 1: thinking about how much her friends reminded me of my
Speaker 1: friends in high school. You're just like kind of mean
Speaker 1: to each other, but you're like really good friends and
Speaker 1: you're just like messing with each other. And like Laurie
Speaker 1: is always played up as like the good girl, but
Speaker 1: she and her friend Annie are smoking pot in the car,
Speaker 1: so it's not like she's not the perfect girl. She's
Speaker 1: studious and like she like hasn't had sex, but like,
Speaker 1: come on, they're all just having fun. Yeah. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, Yeah, we have a quote from Carpenter
Speaker 1: saying that Halloween is a true cress exploitation and I
Speaker 1: decided to make a film I would love to have
Speaker 1: seen as a kid, full of cheap tricks, like a
Speaker 1: haunted house at a fair where you walked down the
Speaker 1: corridor and things you're back at you. The film has
Speaker 1: often been cited as an allegory on the virtue of
Speaker 1: sexual purity and the danger of casual sex. Though a
Speaker 1: Man's Carpenter has explained that this was not the intent.
Speaker 1: He has said and I quote. It has been suggested
Speaker 1: that I was making some kind of moral standpoint. Believe me,
Speaker 1: I'm not. In Halloween, I viewed the characters as simply
Speaker 1: normal last teenagers. I've added the ass was interview. I
Speaker 1: think that's how I imagine I'm saying it. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really glad that he clarified that. Yeah, because it
Speaker 1: is interesting because but because that is the interesting thing
Speaker 1: about art and the difficult thing about creating it is
Speaker 1: you tell the story you want to tell, and you
Speaker 1: put what you want behind it. But people can will
Speaker 1: and you know, find their own meaning behind it, make
Speaker 1: their own Like it's so funny, Like I think about
Speaker 1: the ending of Interstellar and like how he like no
Speaker 1: one was getting annoyed because everyone would ask what it
Speaker 1: meant if he's in the dream or not based on
Speaker 1: the top of it, and he was like, that's for
Speaker 1: you to decide, and it was like kind of but no,
Speaker 1: like wait, you mean the one with Leo, Yeah, not
Speaker 1: Interstellar Subsception, Yeah, sorry, does say Interstellar. I've been thinking
Speaker 1: about Interstellar I like, you should try ketamine because no,
Speaker 1: it feels like it. I did it with a doctor,
Speaker 1: so I don't know what doctor present, so so you know, look, yeah,
Speaker 1: illegally did it? All right, that's a different Can you
Speaker 1: add ketamine on our list of on the docket of
Speaker 1: nerd things I want to talk about. It is a
Speaker 1: science project. It's not just a drug. It's like used
Speaker 1: for people that have PTSD and other things. Anyways, Um,
Speaker 1: I've also read that, Yeah, I didn't take it illegally
Speaker 1: to shoot up it. I didn't think you didn't. If
Speaker 1: one percent, it felt like that fourth dimension. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I had the word for it. And then I stopped, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. What is it? Yes? Yeah? Um
Speaker 1: that yeah, that the whole portrayal of space and the
Speaker 1: fact that it made so many scientists mad because because
Speaker 1: he chose a specific scientist theory and the scientists that
Speaker 1: don't believe that theory, we're fighting it. I was like, I,
Speaker 1: but it's also just his portrayal. It's art. But that's
Speaker 1: what I was just. But what it was was because
Speaker 1: it was being lauded as one of the most scientifically accurate,
Speaker 1: because he was going based on this science. So all
Speaker 1: the other scientists were like, hold, because scientists are catty
Speaker 1: little brats who like but in your inn industry where
Speaker 1: you're you are saying, I'm actually and that is their
Speaker 1: whole thing. They always have to be like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: but that's that's the one instinct stince that I do
Speaker 1: like that because one, it means that we're advancing knowledge
Speaker 1: when they're fighting over stuff, but too it's funny that
Speaker 1: it's literally their job to be mad about at each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted to say another thing that kind of uh
Speaker 1: I liked their commentary on reality was a ghost story,
Speaker 1: which was just like showing how we kind of treat
Speaker 1: like how we don't fully understand the afterlife and like
Speaker 1: that they have a different timeline than we do, which
Speaker 1: it'sound fascinating. We are actually going to get into the
Speaker 1: rest of the Halloween franchise right after this break. They're
Speaker 1: in there like, oh are we because y'all talking about
Speaker 1: sci fi. But we'll get to that after these misses
Speaker 1: and we are back you guys, we're still doing actually
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Speaker 1: We are back continuing on with our first episode in
Speaker 1: sp October. We are talking about the Halloween franchise. Loo say,
Speaker 1: I wanted to know, is there anything that we missed
Speaker 1: that you feel like we need to cover? Um. I
Speaker 1: wanted to go back to when if he was reading
Speaker 1: that quote from John Carpenter where he talked about trying
Speaker 1: to create a fun house vibe, because I feel like
Speaker 1: that absolutely comes through in the climax of the film
Speaker 1: when Laurie Strode played by Jamie Lee curtis Is walks
Speaker 1: into the upstairs bedroom and sees her friend Annie dead
Speaker 1: and like laid out on with like Judith's grave stone,
Speaker 1: which I love that Mike Myers was just like trolling
Speaker 1: around Haddenfield with a giant graystone under his arm, right
Speaker 1: like a whole as stone granite. Yeah so um. And
Speaker 1: also it's just like I've been knocked up on thor
Speaker 1: zine for fifteen years, but I can drive a car
Speaker 1: perfectly well they talked about. I'm so glad that they
Speaker 1: talked about that because I was like, okay that that
Speaker 1: continuity would have bothered me. It drives me crazy, like
Speaker 1: how could he drive he checks every movie, and it's
Speaker 1: like he's been in the mental institutions he was five,
Speaker 1: so he like not only can do that, but it
Speaker 1: has like these elaborate, like beautifully like set up on
Speaker 1: the house, like next to his kills where he's like,
Speaker 1: all right, Annie's gonna go here, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put the boyfriend's gonna swing down from the ceiling and
Speaker 1: then I'm going to have this door creak open. And
Speaker 1: I think it is. And then that's the one thing
Speaker 1: they keep throughout every single movie, despite the timeline is
Speaker 1: changing and the theories changing, they always have these kills
Speaker 1: displayed in this like over the top kind of comedic way.
Speaker 1: And I love that. One aspect to Michael Myers is
Speaker 1: just that he's like very creative with how people die. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like he purposely that does that in every film, and
Speaker 1: it's it's strange to me. That's the thing that sticks
Speaker 1: out right. I will say the scene in the Car
Speaker 1: got me. I was like, even though I've seen it,
Speaker 1: you know, and I love that. I love where she
Speaker 1: goes to the car, um she checks its locks, she
Speaker 1: goes back and it's unlocked because they build it up
Speaker 1: so many times. Do you think he's going to get
Speaker 1: her in the laundry rail, right, And there's like several
Speaker 1: times you think someone's going to be gotten and they
Speaker 1: do a good job of subverting rights. I've i read
Speaker 1: some pretty good video essays on horrors and how they
Speaker 1: do that just with the soundtrack alone, and how they
Speaker 1: play with our emotions by playing certain tracks that lead
Speaker 1: us to believe that we're anticipating something that happen, only
Speaker 1: for it to stop and lead to nothing, and then
Speaker 1: that jumps a sting that gets us every time. And
Speaker 1: it's so interesting because it's like, yeah, we are trained
Speaker 1: to be triggered by certain sounds and music we as
Speaker 1: movie goers, and the way that you know that's artfully
Speaker 1: played with, especially in horror, is actually really interesting and cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's also like when you are in a haunted house,
Speaker 1: or when you're maybe walking home late at night, or
Speaker 1: you're just in a spooky situation and you're like, is
Speaker 1: something going to happen? Isn't something going to happen? And
Speaker 1: having that whole feeling while you're watching it feels like
Speaker 1: you're there because everyone's walked through the huse and then
Speaker 1: like is that annoys or is it an annoying when
Speaker 1: I love PJ Souls. That's another thing I have to
Speaker 1: say about real quick p J Souls is Linda I
Speaker 1: think is such a delight. She's in another one of
Speaker 1: my favorite movies, Rock and Roll, High School with the Ramans,
Speaker 1: and I love like she just had a look. She
Speaker 1: was like always wearing pigtails, and she's like, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what movie I'm in, I'm wearing pigtails. I think
Speaker 1: that's a real fun demand to me. She said in
Speaker 1: an interview that she was the only one that when
Speaker 1: she did her line, it was mainly that she she
Speaker 1: was saying totally, And she said John Carpenter was like,
Speaker 1: you were the only one that said it. How I
Speaker 1: hear it like in my head and then and then
Speaker 1: and she actually said it like I think five or
Speaker 1: six times, like in the film, if you look back
Speaker 1: at it when she answers the phone or she'd be
Speaker 1: like totally. Uh yeah, So that was really funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a really funny character. And I like when Michael
Speaker 1: Myers like he tries to be her, like pretends to
Speaker 1: be her boyfriend. I love that so much. And she's
Speaker 1: just like you see something you like and she's like
Speaker 1: flirting and goofing off, and like it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where it happens a lot in these movies where
Speaker 1: like the character thinks that Michael Myers is her boyfriend.
Speaker 1: It keeps happening several times. In the second one, a
Speaker 1: character thinks that he's her boyfriend and she licks his
Speaker 1: hand for a while, and it's just like I it
Speaker 1: never stops being a little funny. And also like, oh god, dummy,
Speaker 1: come on. Moving differently, there's a different smell, like you
Speaker 1: just hook dub you already forgot? Do you know this
Speaker 1: guy or not? Like yeah, So, so Halloween came out
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight, came out October ninety eight. That's
Speaker 1: solid Halloween weekend. Moving on to Halloween too, Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: Halloween too. Oh man, I this is I feel like
Speaker 1: it was still creepy, but it definitely we're in the
Speaker 1: zone where it starts. Oh, I forgot to say we
Speaker 1: in Halloween one. So the film ends with Michael Myers
Speaker 1: being shot six times and then he disappear. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: hits the ground and you're like, cool, he's dead. And
Speaker 1: then when when I saw he was going, I was
Speaker 1: like cool, he's a superhero. Yeah yeah, true, true, true,
Speaker 1: But that was like John Carpenter's things. He wanted him
Speaker 1: to be like a supernatural. Yeah. I mean he clearly
Speaker 1: is doesn't have human DNA. And then after that, every
Speaker 1: single one is like, no, he is a real guy,
Speaker 1: and here's a bunch of reasons. Here's his family. Okay,
Speaker 1: he goes to an office every day, he's a real man. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so then, yeah, I guess in this one we
Speaker 1: find out that Lori is actually Michael's sister and she
Speaker 1: was given up for a don't understand. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I like this part. Well, this is what happens
Speaker 1: when oftentimes when horror movies get a sequel, like I
Speaker 1: find that like they have a solid cohesive story in
Speaker 1: the fourth the first one, And I think what makes
Speaker 1: a lot of horror movies great is that there isn't
Speaker 1: much to the story. You leave a lot to the
Speaker 1: imagination that the thing is mysterious. Like that's what was
Speaker 1: so funny to take another step out of horror. But
Speaker 1: to something similar was when Godzilla came out and everyone
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't like it, the new Godzilla, not
Speaker 1: the one that had p Did he do the Stairway
Speaker 1: to Heaven remix, even though that slaps I don't know
Speaker 1: what anybody says. I'll never forget. Like I was standing
Speaker 1: up bobbing in front of TV when he was doing
Speaker 1: his Mad TV performance. Yeah ATLA but the new one
Speaker 1: Brian Cranston. A lot of people were like, well, we
Speaker 1: didn't know where he came from, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's Kaiju movies. Like, that's just all Kaiju movies. You
Speaker 1: don't know where it. It's just a giant monster that
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere. Yeah, exactly why do you need
Speaker 1: to know the So Godzilla comes from the race of
Speaker 1: godzillions and you know he got here. Uh No, he's
Speaker 1: just we don't know where he came from. Because that
Speaker 1: is in a weird way. Really, you don't know always
Speaker 1: know where your problems come from. You don't always know
Speaker 1: where when how disaster is gonna strike, you just need
Speaker 1: to deal with it. And when you're dealing with it,
Speaker 1: you don't care where it came from. You just wanted
Speaker 1: to stop and then after that maybe figure out some
Speaker 1: of the back story. I think that's why people like
Speaker 1: things wrapped up though in film, because they're like the
Speaker 1: rest of my life is insane to comfort. Let me
Speaker 1: get this, that's very true. That's actually a really good point.
Speaker 1: But so when you do have that kind of story
Speaker 1: where it's this mysteriousness around it, then in the second
Speaker 1: one to kind of even I feel like, sometimes justify
Speaker 1: a sequel, you do have to round out the story
Speaker 1: around the character. What is his motive of still still going?
Speaker 1: And uh, and I guess the motive is somehow, even
Speaker 1: though it's never talked about in the first movie, he
Speaker 1: is his sister. I feel like that's the first thing
Speaker 1: the psychiatrists should have brought up. But wait, but they
Speaker 1: might undo the movie taking place after the first movie,
Speaker 1: so it's why they race. They've erased all of it.
Speaker 1: They've they've Dragonball, dragon Ball, superd It. They erased all
Speaker 1: the films, so, which is kind of cool. And John
Speaker 1: Carpenter's psyched about it because he didn't want to make
Speaker 1: a sequel like he was. He wrote Halloween too, but
Speaker 1: he didn't want to although it ended up getting a
Speaker 1: two million dollar budgets, so a huge, huge jut from
Speaker 1: the three hundred thousands, so I think it was like
Speaker 1: the money was there, he was going to write it.
Speaker 1: He and Debor Hill still produced it. Yeah, but um,
Speaker 1: he wasn't into it. He felt like the story had
Speaker 1: been told already. I mean, if we want to talk
Speaker 1: about something current, just take another tangent. What do you
Speaker 1: think about this child's play reboot that the creator is
Speaker 1: mad about? Oh, the creator is mad about because here's
Speaker 1: the thing. So the creator is mad because I guess
Speaker 1: he's not involved, which happens in movies when you don't
Speaker 1: really own your I P because uh. But the main
Speaker 1: thing is that like a lot of people are like
Speaker 1: they're rebooting it when the series is still alive and ongoing.
Speaker 1: But I think the last movie came out two thousand
Speaker 1: and fourteen. I was like, you don't get to use
Speaker 1: that excuse when it's been four years, right. Also, the
Speaker 1: Chucky movies are just like every other thing for all
Speaker 1: the other slasher movies from the eighties, Like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: could say Nightmare in the Street is ongoing, but it's done.
Speaker 1: But I guess, you know, you know, I wanna get
Speaker 1: my mouth right. I want to make sure I'm not
Speaker 1: talking out my my behind because if it is in
Speaker 1: production the then it is ongoing, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so are these thing that they're going to completely like
Speaker 1: brand new remake or so. So this is the last
Speaker 1: note on it based on Wikipedia. Uh so. In October
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, Don Mancini, who was the one thrown
Speaker 1: shade on Twitter about the new one, expressed an interest
Speaker 1: in having Glenn Glenda from Seed of Chucky return in
Speaker 1: a future film. Most references to the character had been
Speaker 1: cut from Cult of Chucky. In February of two thousand
Speaker 1: and eighteen, it was announced that a child's play television
Speaker 1: series is in the works with involvement from Mancini and
Speaker 1: producer David Krishner, and is set to be a continuation
Speaker 1: of the film story arc. Mancini also stated that as
Speaker 1: well as the series, feature films will still continue. So
Speaker 1: it seems like it's been a lot of promises, um
Speaker 1: and uh, it's in the works, but in Hollywood lots
Speaker 1: of times. In the works means we're out pitching it
Speaker 1: and seeing if anyone's gonna pick it. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, as a career, I'm not going to be
Speaker 1: like the corporation that bought your thing totally owns the
Speaker 1: right to do whatever it wants. Because no, everyone would
Speaker 1: hate that. I would hate that. But It's like I
Speaker 1: find that in this industry, a lot of people will
Speaker 1: work in the industry and then they know how shady
Speaker 1: it can be, and then when it doesn't go your way,
Speaker 1: like you're just acting like what, how is this happens?
Speaker 1: Like you know what happened? You know that you probably
Speaker 1: sold that I p You know that they were going
Speaker 1: to do that. You They probably called you when you
Speaker 1: start started talking about that you had a TV show
Speaker 1: in the works, being like we're gonna do a thing,
Speaker 1: We're and there you were probably like I But also
Speaker 1: they probably didn't call them and just did it, but
Speaker 1: they do own it. Uh, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: Also I think I'm only caping for it because of
Speaker 1: who got announced in the reboot. Yeah, because if it
Speaker 1: was anyone else, I'd be on dance eye, but it was.
Speaker 1: But yeah, then everyone hates the new Chucky Doll because
Speaker 1: it's kind of like cute. I actually like that it's
Speaker 1: cute because that's kind of like like the one thing
Speaker 1: that makes someone said it used face tune and that
Speaker 1: made me laugh a lot. But me, it's like that's
Speaker 1: the first one was creepy before it even was possessed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then like now it just is a joke, like
Speaker 1: Chucky's a like how he looks now is a joke
Speaker 1: to me, and all the recent ones, apparently the newer ones, Okay,
Speaker 1: there it is so it Aubrey Plaza, Bryan Tyree Henry.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of why I uh, I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm in I'm willing to give this
Speaker 1: bad boy a chance. Those are two actors I'd love
Speaker 1: to see in the mix. But it does suck the
Speaker 1: way it happens. And of course we all know how
Speaker 1: horror fans can be. I don't think it might uh
Speaker 1: live as well because horror fans they're strong, they're mighty,
Speaker 1: and they're loyal franchise too. I get a little like,
Speaker 1: I feel like it lives. I mean, I'm only saying
Speaker 1: I guess because maybe Child's Play is not my favorite
Speaker 1: as far as like, because I'm so psyched on this
Speaker 1: new Halloween movie. So I don't want to like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, say the opposite thing, but I wouldn't be great.
Speaker 1: There's a new franchise, a new thing happening. Like I
Speaker 1: was here for the Conjuring, but the last the nun
Speaker 1: was Wolf. Yeah, everyone said Wolf. I think It still
Speaker 1: made a good amount of money too, though, right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's like we're so hard up for franchises, Like
Speaker 1: in the eighties you had Halloween and Nightmare on Elm
Speaker 1: Street and Child's Play in Front and um and the
Speaker 1: nineties all that kept you know, when we were born,
Speaker 1: we were born into these franchises, and now it's like
Speaker 1: very nebulous, Like if you weren't going to watch people's
Speaker 1: skin get picked off in the Saw movies and like,
Speaker 1: what did you have? Yeah, so Halloween to y'all, moving on,
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna happen all the time. On spook Tober,
Speaker 1: We're just going to talk horror movies and came out
Speaker 1: October n one, Like you were saying, it was Michael's
Speaker 1: other sister, Lori, who was Jamie Lee Curtis and the
Speaker 1: original reprised her role. She also needs to die now. Um,
Speaker 1: so is that his main? I just like, because you've
Speaker 1: seen all of them, is that his What is his motive? Um?
Speaker 1: I think they're well that's an interesting thing to say. So, um,
Speaker 1: for the first several of them, until you get a
Speaker 1: Curse of Michael Myers, the motive is just to like
Speaker 1: kill every living person. Does he have a something for
Speaker 1: young people because in the original he's just killing you. Well,
Speaker 1: he did kill a guy that was old, remember the
Speaker 1: um worker. Yeah at the beginning, Yeah yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: was going in like the cornfield ish area. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: had to kill that guy to get his jump. Once
Speaker 1: he had that look down, then he was like he
Speaker 1: had to keep I think that's very funny about Michael Myers.
Speaker 1: He continuously finds this mask and the jumpsuit. He breaks
Speaker 1: out of an in mental institution every time, like where
Speaker 1: is he getting He's really just say real quick. His mask,
Speaker 1: which the original actor like they had molded his face
Speaker 1: and then they bleached it a sense or no, yeah,
Speaker 1: they bleached it and then they had white in it,
Speaker 1: and they were like it looked so scary that we knew,
Speaker 1: like this had to be the mask that they used.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was William shatner Halloween mask. Wait was it?
Speaker 1: That's how it started. Yeah, it got like a cheap
Speaker 1: Halloween mask from a drug store because I'm like, no budgets,
Speaker 1: and then and molded it, yeah, to his face. That
Speaker 1: was only um in the first two and then after
Speaker 1: that they start looking real weird. Like the fourth movie,
Speaker 1: the mask is so bad. I hate the way the
Speaker 1: mask looks. And so what are the final Like, is
Speaker 1: there anything else we need to mention for Halloween too?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I want to mention how they shot a
Speaker 1: kid in this movie. The cops blast a kid in
Speaker 1: the movie. Uh, he blows up, he's set on fire. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember as a as a kid that scene was
Speaker 1: like that scene was probably what got me in a
Speaker 1: comedy because it was such I laughed so hard at
Speaker 1: it and it's just such a dark moment when you
Speaker 1: really like unpack it. But it was so funny that
Speaker 1: they were so sure that this was Michael Martin, that
Speaker 1: this dude in a man ask has to do it
Speaker 1: and uh. And then they just moved on with their
Speaker 1: life after, like there was no it was just done.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, we accidentally lit this kid. It's never
Speaker 1: discussed again. Yes, see you all later. And and Dr
Speaker 1: Loomis continues to be like the crazy man. Why won't
Speaker 1: he stop shouting? And he's like, it's not the guy. Also,
Speaker 1: it's like the Boston Public of of movies, because you
Speaker 1: remember Boston Public when it was like these are teachers,
Speaker 1: not cops, this is a psychiatrist. Why are you chasing
Speaker 1: down this man? This is way out of your pay grade.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do
Speaker 1: to Michael Myers? He tries to do a lot of things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he tries and who does though? All the cops get
Speaker 1: killed over and over. Yes, somehow the psychiatrist though, he
Speaker 1: got that thing. So at the end Michael is engulfed
Speaker 1: in flames. He stumbles out of the room and before
Speaker 1: finally falling dead. But he's not dead right, well, you
Speaker 1: think he's dead. And then when they go to do
Speaker 1: UM season of the Witch, which is the third one,
Speaker 1: the idea is that from then on it's going to
Speaker 1: be in an UM anthology series like American Horror Story.
Speaker 1: So it was like, fine, the first tour about Michael Myers,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be Halloween movies that come out every year.
Speaker 1: They'll be about different spooky things, so like the next
Speaker 1: year is about these haunted masks, and then the year
Speaker 1: after it was gonna be something else. But then everyone
Speaker 1: lost their collective minds over the fact that Michael Myers
Speaker 1: wasn't wasn't he wasn't in it, and they were just like,
Speaker 1: oh no, it's like such a bomb that then they
Speaker 1: had to come up with like, well, he was burned badly,
Speaker 1: but he lived, so that's how they come back with
Speaker 1: how it happened. But he seems dead, like it's it's
Speaker 1: played like he's dead. It's not like the first one
Speaker 1: where he disappears. Yeah, So we have Halloween three season
Speaker 1: of the which it came out October twenty two, and
Speaker 1: just what are like three main bullet points people need
Speaker 1: to know for this film? Silver Shamrock, the Creepy Corporation
Speaker 1: has this devious plan to basically blow up kids heads.
Speaker 1: And they i these masks and they watched like the
Speaker 1: specific Shamrock programming the night of Halloween. So the idea
Speaker 1: is that there's three different mass There's a skeleton, the pumpkin,
Speaker 1: the witch, and like everyone buys them. It's basically a
Speaker 1: commentary on consumers on the rampant marketing of Halloween. So
Speaker 1: the ideas like kids will have these masks, I'll watch
Speaker 1: the tie in television show and then their brains will
Speaker 1: melt into spiders and sneaks and creepy crawleys. So was
Speaker 1: this corporation owned by witches? Uh No? Just like a
Speaker 1: bad dude, alright, dr and on that note, we have
Speaker 1: Halloween four, Return of your Boy Michael Mins. That's that's
Speaker 1: the version you get if you get my bootleg version,
Speaker 1: but normally it's called Halloween four Returned of Michael Myers
Speaker 1: and that dropped October. I was a few months old.
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was like, yea, let me
Speaker 1: sing as I assume. Um. But yeah, So apparently Laurie
Speaker 1: died but she has a daughter, and while being transferred
Speaker 1: back to Smith's Grove, Michael awakens a pon hearing that
Speaker 1: Laurie Strode, who died in a car accident has a daughter.
Speaker 1: Now that's very funny scene because he's like all wrapped
Speaker 1: in bandages. I can't see anything. He's strapped to a gurney.
Speaker 1: He hasn't moved in the first five minutes. And then
Speaker 1: the two E. M. T s are like in the
Speaker 1: back being like, oh, yeah, Laurie died in a car accident,
Speaker 1: but her daughter is still in hand and yeah, and
Speaker 1: then his hands are like crack and his knuckles open
Speaker 1: up and then he's just like slams his hand into
Speaker 1: like the one guy's face and you think his fingers
Speaker 1: would go into his eyes, but instead his finger goes
Speaker 1: into his forehead, just into it like he had a bait,
Speaker 1: like he had the soft spot like a baby. Ye. Also,
Speaker 1: I love that these e m s are just talking
Speaker 1: about other accidents, like like this is just a regular person,
Speaker 1: Laurie struggle. They're like, yeah, he died in a car
Speaker 1: accident for some reason, I'm bringing it up right here
Speaker 1: next to this body. Yeah. They love talking about all
Speaker 1: the lore. It's one of the things I actually like
Speaker 1: about the series is that everybody in it treats it
Speaker 1: like it's an have been legend and they're like, have
Speaker 1: you heard of Michael Myers? And they all know these
Speaker 1: different you know, pieces of information that's being shared. It
Speaker 1: just the right time. Yeah. Um. But yeah, her daughter so,
Speaker 1: which is crazy because it's like she had her daughter
Speaker 1: when she was right after the Halloween movies, because her
Speaker 1: daughter is like eight, I think or something and Jimmie
Speaker 1: Lloyd played by Danielle Harris. So yeah, it comes out
Speaker 1: like ten years after the first one. So the idea
Speaker 1: is that she basically like highly traumatized, had this child
Speaker 1: died in a car accident. Now this child is with
Speaker 1: like another family. Yeah, Laurie's had a really rough Um.
Speaker 1: The girl who plays Jamie is great. I love that
Speaker 1: her name is Jamie. I wonder if that's a connection
Speaker 1: to Jamie Leek. I think it is right for sure. Um,
Speaker 1: Dannie Harris is great. She goes on to be in
Speaker 1: the original Rosanne Um. Before we knew what a nut
Speaker 1: case she was, she was in a couple of others.
Speaker 1: So she was in Halloween four and then she was
Speaker 1: also in Yeah, in two thousand sevens Halloween remake UM
Speaker 1: and its sequel, but as Annie Brackett. Interesting, Yeah, she
Speaker 1: didn't reprise. I think that was just a nod to
Speaker 1: this because so four or five and six are turned
Speaker 1: into a different timeline, and then by the time that
Speaker 1: h TWOO comes around, it ignores four through six and
Speaker 1: acts like it's picking up after two. So the series
Speaker 1: has a lot of memory issues where it's like, not
Speaker 1: this one, but this one, not this one with this one,
Speaker 1: and the one continues that it's just being like, screw all, y'all,
Speaker 1: we're going back from the beginning. Does that mean the
Speaker 1: new one is also ret counting H two oh? Or
Speaker 1: is it happening after two before h two oh? Everything
Speaker 1: everything except the first Halloween. But I actually, yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: get to h two O. I love that one. I
Speaker 1: think that's like one of the best ones in the
Speaker 1: whole series. But um, the new storyline for the fourth
Speaker 1: one is that Lori's dead. There's this new um daughter
Speaker 1: and she has this special like metaphysical connection to Michael
Speaker 1: Myers and they do this thing. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: the Shining or like Harry Potter and Voltimore, where like
Speaker 1: she can tell when he's going to kill Yeah, that
Speaker 1: sounds like gray and um, sorry, I had to Kylo.
Speaker 1: Okay I got to see each other and he was
Speaker 1: in a towel for some reason. They just did that
Speaker 1: for the fans. That's when you get they basically just
Speaker 1: introduced that storyline in the fourth one, and then it
Speaker 1: ends for a lot of talk about ending we've been
Speaker 1: talking about okay, um, and then it ends with like
Speaker 1: she's really goes through the wringer and then she ends up. Um,
Speaker 1: she's like touching Michael at the end when they think
Speaker 1: he's dead again. And so the idea is that like
Speaker 1: some of his rage got into her, and so she
Speaker 1: goes back to her home and then kills her foster
Speaker 1: mother the same way. She's like wearing the clown costume,
Speaker 1: she got some scissors, she kills her foster mother, and
Speaker 1: then um Dr Loomis is like, you know, like she
Speaker 1: is him not again? Yeah, she tries to kill her,
Speaker 1: and that's when the cops are like, you're done now,
Speaker 1: Like we like when when they shot a kid, but
Speaker 1: this kid, we're not going to let you get another kid.
Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, we got about seven more. This is
Speaker 1: number four. So that's how that one ends, is that
Speaker 1: she's killed and now it's like is she Michael Myers?
Speaker 1: But then the fifth one starts and it's not that bad.
Speaker 1: Well let's talk about that fifth one. After these messages,
Speaker 1: we are back. We need some October um music. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Twilight No, so we are talking about Halloween five,
Speaker 1: the Revenge of Michael Myers. Are they not all the revenge?
Speaker 1: He had to return? Okay? Okay, so the dropped October nine.
Speaker 1: That's that's back to back. The last one came out,
Speaker 1: so now you got n nine. So they came out
Speaker 1: back to back because okay, everyone hated the third one, right,
Speaker 1: so then the fourth one comes up and it was
Speaker 1: a huge success. Everyone was like yeah, we sorry, We're sorry,
Speaker 1: We're trying to People were like pumped on Daniel Harris.
Speaker 1: They're like, yes, we love this, like, let's get more
Speaker 1: of this. So then everybody was ready, so they knew
Speaker 1: they had to make the next one come out really quickly.
Speaker 1: So she returns for the fifth one, and um, she
Speaker 1: has this physical connection. Weirdly, no one is that upset
Speaker 1: with her that she murdered her foster mother, like your
Speaker 1: foster sister is very chill and friendly and not traumatized,
Speaker 1: even though she also went through this terrible thing. Um.
Speaker 1: But now little Jamie is mute because she's so scared
Speaker 1: that she lost her voice, and very sweaty, the most
Speaker 1: sweaty for the entire movie. Um. And she knows when
Speaker 1: Michael's killing and so Dr Loomis is with her a lot,
Speaker 1: and together they become like this like um, team of
Speaker 1: like this is about to happen. We'll call you when
Speaker 1: this happens. No one believes Jamie. They're like, she's a
Speaker 1: little girl who's been through a lot and it's only
Speaker 1: Dr Lomis Is time. He's like, no, she knows. She
Speaker 1: has Michael has poor old man, Oh yeah, and he
Speaker 1: says his face is all scarred because he's been through
Speaker 1: a fire like he's really gone through the ringer at
Speaker 1: this point. Um no, I love it. In every film
Speaker 1: to no one believes him. He always has to start
Speaker 1: the beginning of the film being like Michael is coming bad. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: so the film ends with Michael being taken into police
Speaker 1: custody only to be broken out of jail by a
Speaker 1: mysterious stranger all dressed in black. Yeah, this is this
Speaker 1: was a real bad choice. They actually um thought that
Speaker 1: the movie needed like a little more jazz, so they
Speaker 1: did a bunch of shoots at the very end, like
Speaker 1: pick up scenes of like a guy dressed all in black,
Speaker 1: and then went back and edited into the movie in
Speaker 1: random parts. And then we're like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: this means. We'll figure it out in the next movie,
Speaker 1: which is kind of how all of them play at
Speaker 1: this point, is like we'll just write it later. And
Speaker 1: so All the Man and Black Stuff is um a
Speaker 1: bummer and kind of tarnishes the of the fifth and
Speaker 1: the fourth one because then it takes us to the
Speaker 1: Curse of Michael Myers, which I think is one of
Speaker 1: the worst of all of them, except for that it
Speaker 1: has Paul read the same thing. I know. Okay, So Halloween.
Speaker 1: Moving on Halloween, the Curse of Michael Myers drop September
Speaker 1: twenty nine. The Jailbreaker finds Jamie and her new son.
Speaker 1: Michael kills Jamie, but it's not the same actress, and
Speaker 1: so you don't really realize it's no, it's because she's
Speaker 1: older and like but they don't make any effort to
Speaker 1: make her look the same. The beginning of the Curse
Speaker 1: of Michael Myers is outrageously confusing. I've probably seen it
Speaker 1: fifteen times, and every time I'm like, but wait, why
Speaker 1: It's needlessly confused. So it's revealed that Michael is driven
Speaker 1: by the Curse of Thorn, which forces a person to
Speaker 1: kill their entire family in order to save all of civilization.
Speaker 1: So that's what I was talking about earlier when you're like,
Speaker 1: why the family? So this is that, Like several episodes
Speaker 1: in their like yell what but actually, Dan Kane just
Speaker 1: edit in the John what Danny says that, and then
Speaker 1: you can leave this part in just in case people
Speaker 1: are confused. There's a lot of runes in this movie.
Speaker 1: I love it so so Paul read. So Michael kills
Speaker 1: Jamie and continues searching for her baby. Everyone's just procreating. Uh,
Speaker 1: nobody is traumatized enough to not give her I mean
Speaker 1: just kind of crazy to me. Like anyways, the pain away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the infant is found by Tommy Doyle and I love
Speaker 1: that name. Yeah, it's such a perfect, like little dork name.
Speaker 1: And isn't it seems like Paul Red you are upon
Speaker 1: Tommy Doyle in another life. Well, and Tommy Doyle then
Speaker 1: is the little boy in the first Halloween. Yes, and
Speaker 1: he's watching the thing babysitting. God, this is so convoluted.
Speaker 1: They don't look the same. They did not cast based
Speaker 1: on similarity. Off you know what this does kind of
Speaker 1: people are going to get mad. I was saying, this
Speaker 1: doesn't remind me of Star Wars because it's so in
Speaker 1: to is that it's like all the same like, but
Speaker 1: then so and so his dad and his like it's
Speaker 1: like the improv game. You say a sentence and then
Speaker 1: the next person says a sentence, and then the next
Speaker 1: person says a sentence. That's basically how I think the
Speaker 1: Curse of Michael Myers. They're keeping it so within the family,
Speaker 1: so like and then his neighbor. It's like these people
Speaker 1: could have moved on with their lives and moved into
Speaker 1: different places, but instead they're all just staying same bubble.
Speaker 1: It's and everyone's so scared of the Myers House, but
Speaker 1: everyone continues to live in and around it. Yeah. Well
Speaker 1: in the original one, nobody lived in it, which I
Speaker 1: thought was weird, like, okay, somebody was one person was murdered,
Speaker 1: like you know, property value is still good? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean for real though, Yeah, it was the eighties of
Speaker 1: boom time. Um yeah, it's honestly, I think it's what
Speaker 1: the Halloween movies have going for them. A lot of
Speaker 1: people complain that Michael Myers isn't an interesting bad guy,
Speaker 1: but that aside, I actually think the other characters is
Speaker 1: what makes it interesting. And like the weaving in and
Speaker 1: out and continue newing characters like me or in elm
Speaker 1: Street doesn't really continue characters like that probably their teeth,
Speaker 1: like certainly doesn't. So I like that. It's kind of
Speaker 1: incestuous in that way. It keeps the whole story of
Speaker 1: Haddenfield going. It really does. And so Michael Miller, Michael
Speaker 1: Myers isn't like, you know, cracking silly jokes like Freddy
Speaker 1: Krueger is. But like I don't watch the Halloween movies
Speaker 1: for Mike Myers as much as like the fun theories
Speaker 1: and like the wiggling in and out of story that
Speaker 1: is the hadden Field universe. Also, I feel like, you
Speaker 1: know you have had build universe. I love it, and
Speaker 1: you're talking about like it's like it's a d C
Speaker 1: e U. But you have someone like Michael Myers who
Speaker 1: like I like that he was called the Shape because
Speaker 1: that's kind of how I feel about him. He's just this,
Speaker 1: this event, this being so yeah, he is like unimportant
Speaker 1: and I feel like his design is that way. His
Speaker 1: face is blank, he's wearing a jumpsuit. There is nothing
Speaker 1: to be like, Oh he's he's the scary guy. Where
Speaker 1: are like? Yeah, characters like Freddy Krueger are all personality,
Speaker 1: That's why they have so many one liners. But Michael
Speaker 1: Myers is like someone you can actually see coming to you,
Speaker 1: and they have to add so much personality around Freddy
Speaker 1: Krueger because they want everyone to forget that he was
Speaker 1: a pedophile exactly. That's a very good point because then
Speaker 1: he later becomes a hero, which is like, wait, why
Speaker 1: are you cheering for him? I think this when series
Speaker 1: move away from you identifying with the victims, and then
Speaker 1: you're identifying with the killer. Like that's a problem in horror,
Speaker 1: Like horror is supposed to not supposed to. But I
Speaker 1: think where is its best when I explores the ills
Speaker 1: of society and like our deepest fears. When you start
Speaker 1: identifying with like a psychopath, Like what what are you?
Speaker 1: What's the point of this film anymore? You know, just
Speaker 1: to get you excited about psychos um So, the end
Speaker 1: of this is Michael is finally subdued by Tommy, who
Speaker 1: injects him with large quantities of tranquilizers inside the Smith's
Speaker 1: Grove sanitary. I mean, now that I love that they're
Speaker 1: just throwing things in here, tranquilizers, the matter. But I
Speaker 1: think it's nice for Tommy that he gets to kill well,
Speaker 1: you know, he's never dead, but he's never That's good
Speaker 1: for Tommy. He worked really hard to kill Michael, and
Speaker 1: I think it's nice, good for you, Paul red um
Speaker 1: So Halloween h two. Oh, then twenty years later, they
Speaker 1: get Jamie Lee Curtis back and they just that a
Speaker 1: big deal, right, Yeah, it was a huge deal. It
Speaker 1: was really big, and they just erased everything. So this
Speaker 1: is like the way they're going to do it again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they kept doing it exactly, so they're like, Okay, nothing happened.
Speaker 1: They talk about it. They're like, no one's heard from
Speaker 1: Michael since that night in the hospital. And they say
Speaker 1: it a couple different times throughout the movie, which night
Speaker 1: in the hospital like Halloween to So this one does
Speaker 1: act as if it goes so everything that Jamie Curtis
Speaker 1: has done, she's been around for that, and now she
Speaker 1: changed her identy. They do say that she was in
Speaker 1: a car accident. Does she have a bab does she
Speaker 1: have a kid? They never talked about that, but in
Speaker 1: this one, Josh Hartnett forty Days and forty Nights, he
Speaker 1: is her kid, and he is a nager at this
Speaker 1: prep school that now she's the president of and she's
Speaker 1: changed her name so that Michael can't find her. And
Speaker 1: they are even northern California. But like, Michelle Williams is
Speaker 1: in it, Yeah, Michelle Williams is in it. Um Joseph
Speaker 1: Gordon Levitt is in it in the beginning and then
Speaker 1: he has a Drew Barrymore esque murder. But I think
Speaker 1: this was his first movie. I think this was either
Speaker 1: right before. I think this was either right before right
Speaker 1: after Ten Things I Hate about You. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if he was a big enough name to get
Speaker 1: people into the theater. Where was this on the Third
Speaker 1: Rock from the Sun? I know right well this dropped
Speaker 1: August seven, so it's like a third Rock from the
Speaker 1: Sun and then this and then ten Things I think. Um,
Speaker 1: So like Josh Hartnett's like, I want to get out
Speaker 1: and I want to explore things. Don't keep me here
Speaker 1: at school, and Mom's like, don't you understand I've been
Speaker 1: through so much? And he doesn't like that. So he's like,
Speaker 1: me and my friends are going to do a fun
Speaker 1: thing and lie to you about it. Um. And then that,
Speaker 1: of course that goes terribly. Michael just winds up in
Speaker 1: California because it's Halloween and he's like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He figures out that she's there and me and then
Speaker 1: just like kills a ton of teenagers, and um, Jamie
Speaker 1: Lee Curtis is really awful boyfriend. He pretends that he's nice.
Speaker 1: He's like a woke therapist. He's like, just tell me
Speaker 1: who you are, tell me about your background. I'm here
Speaker 1: for you. And then she does and then he's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: calm down, everything's fine. It's very patronizing. And then as
Speaker 1: soon as Michael Myers comes back, even though she's been
Speaker 1: telling him it's going to happen, and he's like, it's fine,
Speaker 1: don't be dramatic. Michael Myers comes back, the therapist freaks
Speaker 1: out and immediately shoots ll L cool J, just like
Speaker 1: you know who the real threat is? This one black guy?
Speaker 1: Oh my lord, but does no, no, no, not him,
Speaker 1: does the therapiste. The best part about this scene is
Speaker 1: that LLL cool J. So he shoots him immediately, and
Speaker 1: then Michael Myers comes around the corner. He's like, O,
Speaker 1: NOI shot the wrong person obviously, and then Michael Myers
Speaker 1: gouts him and so I think he really doing a
Speaker 1: big service in that one, because that guy sucked um.
Speaker 1: And then Jamie he kills everybody except for Josh Hartnett
Speaker 1: that phase. He actually I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: how old he was back then, so I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's the thing, but I'm just thinking of the Josh. Yeah, okay, great.
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't really see this movie, but
Speaker 1: I just remember Josh Hartnett from my teen years. So
Speaker 1: this was great because it's got like a lot of
Speaker 1: teen faces. It's very referential, it's funny, it's like with it,
Speaker 1: and it's extremely nineties. It's so nineties that it's very ninety.
Speaker 1: Creed even plays as the credit song, oh my God,
Speaker 1: can you tek me ha? It's a weird choice, right
Speaker 1: or that one the one that they play, you know,
Speaker 1: but don't they all sound like that? Moving on to Resurrection, Wait,
Speaker 1: can I say one more thing? This is important? So
Speaker 1: h two of the very end of it is so
Speaker 1: good because like Lori is like, it's just me and
Speaker 1: you and she's going to take Michael murder him. So
Speaker 1: like at the very end, it's like just her and
Speaker 1: Michael Mano Amano and she has like a miss Shetty
Speaker 1: or something and just like decapitates him and his head
Speaker 1: goes flying. And so it's such a great enname because
Speaker 1: Lorie is the final girl and she's like her whole
Speaker 1: life has been traumatized, everyone around just been murdered, and
Speaker 1: she gets to kill the big bad Like that's a
Speaker 1: good thing. It's very exciting, and it should have ended there,
Speaker 1: like that should have been the end of the series.
Speaker 1: And so it was a huge mistake. Four years later
Speaker 1: then when they came out with Because it's not only
Speaker 1: did like she not get that killed? But this movie
Speaker 1: does not hold a candle to h two oh or
Speaker 1: that I was gonna say. So it turns out that
Speaker 1: wasn't Michael that she killed. God, she Michael switched um
Speaker 1: costumes with an e m T and put this mask
Speaker 1: on the e MP. So then Gloria ends up decapitating
Speaker 1: an e m She doesn't deserve that. Also, doesn't that
Speaker 1: mean that the e M T was trying to kill
Speaker 1: Laurie for some reason? Yeah? Really if you're real shaky um.
Speaker 1: So she can't deal with the fact that she killed
Speaker 1: an innocent man. She's in the mental hospital, but she's
Speaker 1: kind of just like biding her time there and she's
Speaker 1: not taking the medication. She's like fake taking it and
Speaker 1: everyone thinks she's mute too, and then she's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm planning my revenge. Oh, Sarah Connor, Yes, exactly. It's
Speaker 1: very similar to that. Although, so this movie sucks for
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons, and it has some fun aspects
Speaker 1: as well, but the biggest problem with it is then
Speaker 1: Laurie does get to face off against Michael Myers again,
Speaker 1: but then he like tricks her and uses her like
Speaker 1: moment of weakness because she's worried about killing the wrong
Speaker 1: guy again, so she tries to unmask him when he's
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, hanging upside down. She's got
Speaker 1: him snared in a trap. She's almost going to kill him,
Speaker 1: but then she's scared that she's going to kill the
Speaker 1: wrong guy, so she goes to reach for the mask
Speaker 1: and then he pulls her over and throws her down
Speaker 1: a building, so he kills her, which is like such bullshit.
Speaker 1: Why after all this time does he get to kill her.
Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking. I think it's legitimately sad in a terrible movie.
Speaker 1: I do remember she does die this and I was like,
Speaker 1: what after all of that, that's her death? And then
Speaker 1: that's not that's like the first ten or fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: of the movie. That's not even the focus of the films,
Speaker 1: like the opening, and then it turns into a reality
Speaker 1: television show, Oh my God, which is really fun because
Speaker 1: it's two thousand and two, so they're like, hey, it's
Speaker 1: the Internet, and they're showing that time of the Internet
Speaker 1: where things changed so quickly that it was like very
Speaker 1: cool at the time. And then immediately dated. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Busta and Tara are there. Yeah. I think that's the
Speaker 1: best part, is bus a bus being there. People hated,
Speaker 1: they consider it to be the worst movie, but in
Speaker 1: rewatching it, I will say, Um, even though the Lori
Speaker 1: Strode stuff is total garbage, I think it's fun to
Speaker 1: be taken back to a very specific time in tech history.
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of a delight. It's very silly, especially
Speaker 1: like when you see things like how much things change
Speaker 1: in the sense that like, oh, we had no idea
Speaker 1: this was going to happen, you know, yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: all right, And then after that we get to uh
Speaker 1: the other movies, which is Queen two thousand seven remade
Speaker 1: by Rob Zombie, um who you know, everyone was expecting
Speaker 1: it to be great because everyone likes the Devil rejects,
Speaker 1: you know me, and I really like his style. I
Speaker 1: feel like he's like nihilistic and mean spirited, and that's
Speaker 1: just not what I'm into horror for um, totally fine
Speaker 1: if other people like it, but it just doesn't get
Speaker 1: me happy or excited. And so um they were fine.
Speaker 1: I mean I liked them because they really get into
Speaker 1: Michael's backstory and essentially just said he's from this like sad,
Speaker 1: abusive household. So that's the whole like, this is why
Speaker 1: he kills um, and like, so I think the backstory
Speaker 1: is interesting if you're going to go in that direction.
Speaker 1: A lot of people hated that there was backstory, so
Speaker 1: and then it's just like really intense kills. It was
Speaker 1: on at a restaurant one time. I was eating dinner
Speaker 1: and somebody had on AMC like thirty days before or
Speaker 1: it was around Halloween, and before that was something like Beetlejuice,
Speaker 1: but then it was like going to be the ten
Speaker 1: o'clock hour. It's like a small, like family restaurant, and
Speaker 1: then this Halloween came on and I knew how gory
Speaker 1: it was. And there there's like a family sitting at
Speaker 1: the next table over and I'm like, oh no, and
Speaker 1: there's just like throat slitting, gashing, like blood everywhere, and
Speaker 1: I've watched this whole family's eyes go so wide, like
Speaker 1: calling the wages over, I'm like, can you turn off
Speaker 1: the TV? It's extremely violent and traumatizing these children. That's
Speaker 1: so funny because yeah, this is right around this is
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, which is right around when Saw
Speaker 1: came out, like we said, tour and instead of making
Speaker 1: because you know, like we were saying in Halloween one,
Speaker 1: it was a lot left to the imagination because we
Speaker 1: could do that. Uh. And now we're at the point
Speaker 1: where it's like, you gotta show it because it's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people want more. There's a blood lust, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And remember in the original one they didn't really have
Speaker 1: blood yeah and so um okay, so that was which
Speaker 1: one was. So now we got Halloween to the second
Speaker 1: remake where Michael Lorie have shared visions of their mother Deborah. Uh,
Speaker 1: and Michael tries to kill Lori but dies in the process.
Speaker 1: Lorie is Michael question Mark. This dropped August twenty nine
Speaker 1: of two thousand and nine. Yeah, the first one came
Speaker 1: out in August too, Like why can't you get the
Speaker 1: rights to October? Like I don't understand. You know. It
Speaker 1: was interesting they started to move horror stuff to being
Speaker 1: more late summer. I guess it would have more time
Speaker 1: in the box office if it did well. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was kind of fascinating if you look back at
Speaker 1: the original ones that dropped the weekend of Halloween, because
Speaker 1: that really doesn't make sense because typically you're going to you're, well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: November is Christmas for box office, Like a lot of
Speaker 1: Christmas movies drop in November to give you some time.
Speaker 1: So and then also like the last Halloween movie to
Speaker 1: drop during Halloween season technically I'll just say October because
Speaker 1: I feel like we're in September, We're all still Halloween ready.
Speaker 1: Was Halloween five, which dropped October, which still was a
Speaker 1: departure from its twentie release dates. Then Curse of Michael
Speaker 1: Myers was the twenty nine of September. Then we moved
Speaker 1: to August for h two. Oh, then we move all
Speaker 1: the way up to do uh July for July twelve
Speaker 1: for Resurrection, and then we're like, oh, that was too far.
Speaker 1: And then Rob Zombie was August thirty one, and then
Speaker 1: with Halloween to the second remake August twenty nine. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so and then we have have you seen the new
Speaker 1: one yet or just herthy? Because like, now not how yet?
Speaker 1: I would love to have gotten that really viewing I got, well,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of film review folks who saw
Speaker 1: it at Tiff and they really really enjoyed it. I
Speaker 1: mean the trailer. I watched it as soon as it
Speaker 1: came out. I was just like immediately rewatched it a
Speaker 1: couple of times because like it's just so creepy and
Speaker 1: visually very exciting. I love I think everybody loves that
Speaker 1: checkerboard floor. Yeah, visual, and then there's like a part
Speaker 1: where he drops teeth on the floor that just seems horrifying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm very very excited about. I think the poster is
Speaker 1: really scary too. It's just like his face, you know,
Speaker 1: from the high angle, and that goes back to what
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier. How the first one where
Speaker 1: he feels like he's always looming of are you and
Speaker 1: they immediately create that just in the poster. I think
Speaker 1: that's very cool. So as a horror fan, you were
Speaker 1: like on it as soon as I was skeptical until
Speaker 1: I watched the trailer, like when they started talking about
Speaker 1: this last year. And I don't know why I'm giving
Speaker 1: Danny McBride a hard time, because it's like I love
Speaker 1: him comedian comedically, and we're both comedians, and like I
Speaker 1: love horror, and I think there's a strong connection between
Speaker 1: comedy and horror. M and then but as soon as
Speaker 1: he said he was going to do it, I was like,
Speaker 1: once you're in qualification. Yeah, Like I was just like,
Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to be any good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but when John Carpenter came on board, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess if he's okay, he's if he's digging it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that, you know, because especially says John Carpenter
Speaker 1: is still alive, You're like, well you need his blessing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And well it's like I love the first one so much.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the scariest movies ever. I
Speaker 1: think it's so fun. It reminds me of my childhood
Speaker 1: because especially all the movie the first few movies that
Speaker 1: came out in the eighties, it looks like what I
Speaker 1: remember Halloween looking like when I was a kid. So
Speaker 1: they're like old time capsules, Like I'm going Little Time
Speaker 1: machines are really nice. But um so I was like skeptical.
Speaker 1: I'm like, does Michael Myers belong in two thousand and eighteen?
Speaker 1: But with Jamie Lee Curtis on board too, like she
Speaker 1: deserves it. It sucked that she got killed and I'm
Speaker 1: excited that she's not dead anymore. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: nice sad change. And also we have like some facts
Speaker 1: about how it stacks up against other slashers. So like
Speaker 1: the First Halloween made a gross of seventy million, the
Speaker 1: first Nightmare on Elm Street had a gross of twenty
Speaker 1: five million. First Friday for the First Friday thirteen had
Speaker 1: a gross of fifty nine point seventy five million, So
Speaker 1: it seems like, you know, out of the first renditions,
Speaker 1: Halloween was king. But if we're going based on their
Speaker 1: highest gross Halloween, the first Rob Zombie one had the
Speaker 1: highest gross with eighty million. Maybe we'll break it with
Speaker 1: a new one, but the highest is the Nightmare on
Speaker 1: Elm Street reboot that happened in two thousand and ten,
Speaker 1: which was a hundred and fifteen million, and the Freddie
Speaker 1: versus Jason, which I think is a double. I don't
Speaker 1: think it should count as their highest or whatever. Their
Speaker 1: highest gross was a hundred fourteen millions, so I contributed
Speaker 1: to that. I saw that one at a drive in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in my car, that's a nice way to see it.
Speaker 1: It was. It was really fun and even that movie,
Speaker 1: which is very silly in many parts it was creepy,
Speaker 1: had a good time. Now. I think the only other
Speaker 1: interesting thing to say is that this kicked off the
Speaker 1: final Girl trope, which was like explored in like feminist
Speaker 1: film criticism. Yeah, because this made you know, in the
Speaker 1: next slasher films. It created a pattern where there's always
Speaker 1: one strong woman was the one who was going to survive,
Speaker 1: and oftentimes they had like a more gender um, non
Speaker 1: gender conforming name, so like Lorie can be a guy's name,
Speaker 1: or like um, Sydney and Scream can be a guy's name. Um.
Speaker 1: But Halloween, Lori Stroud was like the one that kind
Speaker 1: of kicked off that idea and started building the pattern
Speaker 1: for the final Girl. The Final Girl is uh, it's
Speaker 1: such an interesting trope because, yeah, it is wild because
Speaker 1: on the one end, and you're like, oh cool, a
Speaker 1: woman survives at the end, she defeats the killer. But
Speaker 1: it's like, man, okay, well, especially when you start exploring that,
Speaker 1: like why does she's the one who gets to live?
Speaker 1: When they start it's nice that John Carpenter wasn't doing
Speaker 1: it because she was virginal, but they definitely pick up
Speaker 1: that pattern, and like by the thirteenth movies, it's like
Speaker 1: one of the I love those movies are fun, but
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that I think they're a little
Speaker 1: annoying is that it's just each one or dumb teenagers
Speaker 1: and they're like not that interesting and it's really either
Speaker 1: that's just that they're having sex and doing drugs or
Speaker 1: they're not having sex and doing drugs, and like that's
Speaker 1: not like a fun way to decide who dies, because
Speaker 1: like what killer is like really keeping track of like
Speaker 1: your nightlife. Well, you know what's really funny is I
Speaker 1: was going to say, that's also and I think it
Speaker 1: was done in the same way that John Carpenter did
Speaker 1: this one where it wasn't meant to be about that,
Speaker 1: but it follows also does that? Is this just a
Speaker 1: p s a to not have sex because I'm sex
Speaker 1: the thing follows you and so But I don't think
Speaker 1: that they actually meant, like I think it just teens
Speaker 1: have sex and that's like an easy way for it
Speaker 1: in an interesting way. Yeah. No, my mom like really
Speaker 1: latched onto that and she was like, I think this
Speaker 1: is a good message for why teenage you're not resist
Speaker 1: I don't I think that's what they meant. I think
Speaker 1: it's just the thing that everyone relates to, is like,
Speaker 1: what's a relatable thing, Well, you're you have anybody has
Speaker 1: sex for a sexuals I see you. Um, but I
Speaker 1: just wanted to make a couple of short, little quick
Speaker 1: facts before we close this out. And one is that
Speaker 1: they shot in twenty The original Halloween shot in twenty days.
Speaker 1: The script yeah yeah, yeah yeah, the script. It took
Speaker 1: less than two weeks to write. So everyone get your
Speaker 1: features finished. My god, I mean there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of dialogue in it. When you think about it, it's
Speaker 1: like teens interacting, but there's not like long soliloquies that
Speaker 1: happened to all the other ones. Uh yeah, and that uh,
Speaker 1: the house was actually abandoned when they shot, Like, that
Speaker 1: house was really abandoned. Um, that house had to be located.
Speaker 1: It's in South Pasadena. And what do you mean relocated, Well,
Speaker 1: it was relocated. Um, it was going to be demolished,
Speaker 1: but I think because of the success of the film,
Speaker 1: they ended up relocating the house. Yeah yeah, yeah. So
Speaker 1: that is Halloween. Everyone listening. Let us know. I guess
Speaker 1: whenever you first remember watching it, and what your favorite
Speaker 1: one is and what you are looking forward to with
Speaker 1: the new one. I really I love Jamie Lee Curtis.
Speaker 1: She's so right. Did you watch screen queens on? I
Speaker 1: didn't watch all of it. Now she was very funny
Speaker 1: and that they gave her a lot of great lines.
Speaker 1: She girl, I love her from Freaky Friday, Like, she's
Speaker 1: so good in that, I was good in everything as
Speaker 1: I love that she's been rocking that haircut for a
Speaker 1: long time. She was like, this is my look and
Speaker 1: I'm not changing it and I respect that. Oh you
Speaker 1: know what we see her at she always comes or
Speaker 1: not always comes. But her son is super into anime,
Speaker 1: and so and Iffy and I work with Funimation, and
Speaker 1: so we'll go to the Fundimation premieres and she's there
Speaker 1: with her son and they Caused play a lot. So
Speaker 1: she will dress up with her son and they'll be
Speaker 1: at the events like caused playing different characters. Then I forgot,
Speaker 1: but he's he's yeah, he's a little bit younger than us.
Speaker 1: I think, Um, I love that. What a great mom.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she'll go all out and and wear different
Speaker 1: like outfits and stuff and take pictures and she's super dope.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's another cool thing. Nice to hear. Um, Lucy,
Speaker 1: where can everyone catch you? You can get me on
Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter at L t B A comedy. Those
Speaker 1: are my initials, Lucy Tomlin Brenner. Yeah, and um, I
Speaker 1: also host a storytelling show at the Lyric called Dead
Speaker 1: the Whole Time, and it's stories based on urban legends.
Speaker 1: So yeah, We've got one on October three, and we've
Speaker 1: got one on October thirty one, So I'm excited to
Speaker 1: tell scary stories on Halloween. Halloween. Um, I am at
Speaker 1: Miss Danny Fernandez and all the socials. We have more
Speaker 1: sp October episodes coming up for you as to definitely
Speaker 1: tune in here for all your spooky nous. Prepared to
Speaker 1: be spook. If you and I will both be at
Speaker 1: New York Comic Con, I am hosting a panel on Friday.
Speaker 1: Yeah to but check my Twitter because I'll be posting
Speaker 1: about it. And that is me and you know me.
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Speaker 1: E on Twitter and Instagram, Ifty's on Twitch, come through.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some fun playing games. I got my
Speaker 1: scheduled all settled out, so we're gonna be having more
Speaker 1: frequent streams. I'm streaming for those who are trying to
Speaker 1: keep track, We're listening. I was like, I just tell
Speaker 1: me when I streamed pretty much Monday, Wednesdays and Friday's Tuesdays,
Speaker 1: Thursdays I am not streaming, usually out and trying to
Speaker 1: do some comedy, and sometimes Saturdays and Sundays those are
Speaker 1: more flexible. So come through, have fun and let's talk
Speaker 1: and chat. Thank you so much, Stay spooky,