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Speaker 1: Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. All right,

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Speaker 1: we got a bunch of news that came out of

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Speaker 1: President Trump's cabinet meeting. Let's dive in here and actually

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Speaker 1: keep you updated with all of that. So let me

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Speaker 1: go in here and find out make sure we get

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Speaker 1: it in order. Here is cut thirty three. I do

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Speaker 1: understand why people ask questions that are very specific in

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Speaker 1: terms of military strategy. I also love that Trump every

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Speaker 1: time it's like, why the world would I tell you

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Speaker 1: any of this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the reporters are like, sir, are you going to

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Speaker 2: launch a stealth attack on this member of the IRGC

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Speaker 2: tomorrow at his house in the mountains?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Probably not gonna let you know.

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Speaker 1: Thirty three, Here is that version of that question that

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Speaker 1: was just asked in the cabinet meeting?

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Speaker 4: Are you going to go in for the uranium?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 6: How do you secure ron?

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Speaker 7: And let's assume or I wasn't. Why would I ever

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Speaker 7: ask you a question? What kind of a question am

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Speaker 7: I going to go in for the Oh? Yeah, we're

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Speaker 7: going tomorrow at three o'clock. How could you possibly ask

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Speaker 7: a question like that and expect an answer? I don't know,

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Speaker 7: but I don't know, I think you're a friendly person too.

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Speaker 7: It's just such a ridiculous question.

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Speaker 1: It is very funny. And again I was talking about

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Speaker 1: this with Laura yesterday. I think Trump very often is

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Speaker 1: so funny that it sometimes works against him in the

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Speaker 1: context of people take him so literally on the left

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Speaker 1: and they cannot they cannot comprehend when he's joking. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go in at three o'clock. Remember when Reagan

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Speaker 1: got caught off Mike saying we're hitting, We're hitting the

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Speaker 1: Russians making a joke, and it turned into a huge story.

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Speaker 1: But the specifics of this are every day he gets asked, hey,

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Speaker 1: what are you trying to do? As we talked about yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I think the genius of Trump in this respect has

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Speaker 1: been He's caught the Iranians napping twice. He got them

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Speaker 1: in June last year. They had no idea the attack

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Speaker 1: was coming. He took out the Ayatola on a Saturday

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Speaker 1: when they had sent specific indications that they weren't going

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Speaker 1: to do anything. Such that the Iranians are super nervous

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Speaker 1: about negotiating with him now because he's caught him napping twice.

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Speaker 1: And that's because he's put out different perspectives and it's

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Speaker 1: hard to analyze what exactly he's doing. All right, this

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Speaker 1: is a big story, Buck that we talked about yesterday

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Speaker 1: and earlier this week. Things going are going so well

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Speaker 1: in Venezuela that no one is even talking about Venezuela

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Speaker 1: very much. I saw Doug Bergham a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: told him we want to get him on because he

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Speaker 1: has been involved very much in the Venezuela oil situation,

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Speaker 1: and he at the Cabinet meeting gave an update Cut

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Speaker 1: thirty five on just how much Venezuela's oil production is growing.

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Speaker 5: Listen, def in Venezuela, where Chris and I have both

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Speaker 5: had a chance to be there.

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Speaker 8: I literally think they're gonna put up a statue to

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Speaker 8: President Trump. And I'm not being it's not a political statement,

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Speaker 8: it's no, because it's it's like they viewed President Trump

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Speaker 8: like Simon Boeller.

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Speaker 2: He's the liberator of a country, and this is.

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Speaker 8: A country where they you know, they love American baseball.

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Speaker 8: You look on the street that we're in NBA jerseys

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Speaker 8: and Delsey and her team working with us getting back

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Speaker 8: Chris and I both experienced it was the first time

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Speaker 8: in Venezuelan history that they have the free press allowed

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Speaker 8: to come on to essentially what's there were the White House,

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Speaker 8: the Palatio of Minaflores, and it was like it was

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Speaker 8: an emotional thing for people that have been for twenty years,

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Speaker 8: that never had a chance to be there. So it's

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Speaker 8: you get that, when are they going to do the statue?

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Speaker 1: So that is really really funny. Fifty percent increase in

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Speaker 1: three months they've been there, and maybe Trump's going to

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Speaker 1: get a statue and then he President Trump, we talked

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Speaker 1: about this and it's a good pivot to allow us

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Speaker 1: to discuss the continued impact of illegal immigrant crime in

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Speaker 1: this country. Trump paused the Cabinet member meeting to deliver

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Speaker 1: a message about Sharedan Gorman. She is the Chicago area

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Speaker 1: college student who was killed in cold blood by a

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Speaker 1: Venezuelan illegal immigrant in Chicago. And unfortunately, we've got recent

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Speaker 1: stories that continue of totally innocent people being victimized by

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants. But here is Trump in the Cabinet meeting

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Speaker 1: addressing Shardan Gorman, eighteen year old murdered in cold blood.

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Speaker 9: Would be great if people like the Mayor of Chicago

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Speaker 9: and the Governor of Illadi would say, please come in

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Speaker 9: and stop the crime. A beautiful young lady who was

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Speaker 9: killed the other day. And the father was a very

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Speaker 9: good friend of Dan Scavino, and he took it very hard.

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Speaker 9: Dan took it like the father friends he grew up together.

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Speaker 9: And the young lady whose life would be say, if

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Speaker 9: we did what we did. As an example, in Washington,

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Speaker 9: d C. Which is now a safe city, all the

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Speaker 9: time people come up to me in the building, people

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Speaker 9: that work here, they say thank you so much. I

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Speaker 9: know immediately what they're talking about. They're able to walk

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Speaker 9: to work and walk to work. You will walk to work.

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Speaker 2: Some of you were mugged.

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Speaker 9: I know you told me sort some of you were mugged.

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Speaker 9: One person in particular was viciously mugged in the group

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Speaker 9: right here. Not happening anymore.

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Speaker 2: You have a safe city.

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Speaker 1: And so Buck, I saw this story and I just

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Speaker 1: tweeted out and a lot of people are discussing it,

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Speaker 1: and I think it is unfortunate. But again, this could

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Speaker 1: be happening in any city in America. We could point

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Speaker 2: And I want to make sure that I get this

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Speaker 2: right because it was from Bill Malugen said a four

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Speaker 1: This is from the New York Post story. A four

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Speaker 1: time previously deported Honduran illegal immigrant has been charged with

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Speaker 1: murder after he allegedly shoved an eighty three year old

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Speaker 1: City's Upper east Side. The veteran died from his injuries.

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Speaker 1: The man who pushed him onto the tracks has a

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Speaker 1: lengthy rap sheet. I want to make sure I get

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Speaker 1: this man's name. He's a grandfather. Richard Williams died from

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Speaker 1: his injuries at the Lexington Avenue sixty third station just

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Speaker 1: before noon, middle of the day on March eighth. His

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Speaker 1: alleged attacker was a Honduran national, and that Honduran national

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Speaker 1: had been deported four different times and buck Unfortunately. This

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Speaker 1: is there's cell phone footage of this.

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Speaker 2: It's an awful situation. Eighty three years old.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to take the subway at noon in New

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Speaker 1: York City and a man who should have never been

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Speaker 1: in this country takes your life.

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Speaker 2: Not only should he never have been in this he

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Speaker 2: which is a felony. This is this is again where

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Speaker 2: I get very frustrated people say, oh, our immigration system

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Speaker 2: is broken. That's actually, in many cases not true. Democrats

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Speaker 2: break it. They refuse what is actual statute, They refuse

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Speaker 2: to enforce laws. And this is a perfect example of it.

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Speaker 2: You can AI makes this all so easy. Now for

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Speaker 2: legal stuff, I gotta tell you AI, you can pull

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Speaker 2: up statutes in a second. You can pull off any

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Speaker 2: uh any case law. I mean, the speed of this

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Speaker 2: stuff is incredible. And you can see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It is it is a federal felony to to if

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Speaker 2: you have been deported because you came in illegally, to

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Speaker 2: come back. And doesn't that make perfect sense. By the way,

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Speaker 2: it's one thing, Okay, you came, we got you, you're gone.

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Speaker 2: Now you're gonna do this again. It's guy's done us

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Speaker 2: four times and he somehow is still walking around the

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Speaker 2: streets in this country. This is where everyone has to nurse.

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Speaker 2: Then during the Biden Year's Clay, it became too obvious

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Speaker 2: for anyone to pretend otherwise really that Democrats wanted an

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Speaker 2: came in. They're pretending, oh, it's about asylum. They're not asylum. Seekers,

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Speaker 2: they're scammers. We see. Okay, that was one revelation. Another

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Speaker 2: revelation people are now having under this Trump administration because

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Speaker 2: a lot of it is Clay, we're talking about it more.

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Speaker 2: The media can't squelch these stories the way they used to.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to things like X I might add formerly Twitter

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Speaker 2: and Elon. This stuff gets out. All the media sees it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's no longer like Georgia man or Michigan

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Speaker 2: man pushes, Oh, you mean a guy who came here

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Speaker 2: from Ecuador who's been deported five times and is like

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Speaker 2: a uh has a long rap sheet of being like

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Speaker 2: a sex criminal. That's that's, you know, Michigan man or

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Speaker 2: We're all so sick of it. But Clay, what we're

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Speaker 2: seeing now is Democrats are continuing sanctuary policies, continuing to

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Speaker 2: thwart immigration enforcement of exactly individuals like the guy who

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Speaker 2: threw this veteran and grandfather on the subway tracks. They

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Speaker 2: don't want this to stop, just like they didn't want

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Speaker 2: the border to be secure and then Trump secured it

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Speaker 2: right away. Democrats are all in on you have to

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Speaker 2: it's a sanctuary for the criminals. It's a sanctuary for

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Speaker 2: the predators. It is not a sanctuary city. It is

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Speaker 2: not a safe place for Americans. They don't want to

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Speaker 2: change that. Fifteen prior charges for this illegal immigrant who

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Speaker 2: killed eighty three year old Richard Williams. Fifteen prior charges

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Speaker 2: and again noon noon on the subway tracks. Buck, you

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Speaker 2: can speak to for people out there who don't know Manhattan,

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Speaker 2: this is in theory. I believe a pretty s area

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Speaker 2: Upper East Side like this is not an area in

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Speaker 2: New York grew up. Yeah, it's probably the safest single

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Speaker 2: one of the safest. So if you think about this, noon,

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Speaker 2: in one of the safest areas of Manhattan, eighty three

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Speaker 2: that should have never been here. And again it comes

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Speaker 2: on the heels of what's happened in Chicago. I mean,

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Speaker 2: every day you can wake up and find a story

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Speaker 2: this to occur. But just this Clay, I just think

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Speaker 2: this is so important. A rational response to an incident

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Speaker 2: like this would be for the Democrat mayor Communist mayor

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Speaker 2: of New York and the prosecutor, the DA District Attorney

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Speaker 2: But put that aside, the rational human response would be,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we will work when there's somebody who

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Speaker 2: is a violent offender, as this guy was, a repeat offender,

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Speaker 2: as this guy was previously deported as this guy was,

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Speaker 2: we will honor ice detainers. We will work with federal

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Speaker 2: law enforcement. We want to keep all of our illegals

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Speaker 2: That's you know, they want to do that, but they'll

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Speaker 2: at least agree with us that we shouldn't have serial

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Speaker 2: won't do it. They won't budge, they won't even make

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Speaker 2: that exception to the policy. So what else do you

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Speaker 2: have to know? They this is the cost eighty year

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Speaker 2: old veteran Grandpa's getting thrown on the subway tracks in

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Speaker 2: broad daylight and the nicest part of New York City

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Speaker 2: and dying and their family getting that phone call in

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Speaker 2: the community, having shocked. This is a price Democrats are

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Speaker 2: willing to have other people pay so that they can

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Speaker 2: have cheap labor and they can feel like they're not racists.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's where the country is, and it is

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Speaker 2: fairly explicit at this point. Democrats see as their base

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Speaker 2: have to ask yourself, why do they see these people

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Speaker 2: and believe they will be their base. I mean, that's

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Speaker 12: the US, right, There's been a long trend on this,

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Speaker 12: Yet people's perceptions of public safety and certainly in like

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Speaker 12: in cities like Seattle and New York are not improving.

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Speaker 12: And why that is, I think is so a lot

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Speaker 12: of crime, most crime is committed by the people you're

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Speaker 12: talking about, right, and oftentimes in the eighties in particular, it.

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Speaker 13: Was drug dealing related crime. Right, So what's happened. Well, actually,

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Speaker 13: there's nobody work in the corners anymore. A lot of

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Speaker 13: when drugs are bought often they're bought off Snapchat, they're

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Speaker 13: bought off you know, your phone and so like, there's

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Speaker 13: not actually territorial wars anymore.

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Speaker 6: So that's really helped the cops.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 12: Plus they have spotshotter, they have lots of good investigative

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Speaker 12: techniques that they didn't used to have. So why are

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Speaker 12: people more scared? Because the kind of crime that I

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Speaker 12: just mentioned to you that we've been talking about, right

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Speaker 12: walking up to somebody in the street who's a true

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Speaker 12: innocent who doesn't have any you know, isn't out there

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Speaker 12: by drugs, right, the those are the crimes that scare people,

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Speaker 12: and you know, they scare women, people who you know,

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Speaker 12: who don't expect to be a victim of violent crime

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Speaker 12: and who quote unquote shouldn't be a victim of violent crime.

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Speaker 12: And to me, that's where we've got to focus our energy.

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Speaker 12: And you know, the number one way to do that

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Speaker 12: is to get some drug addicted homeless people who are

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Speaker 12: are having psychosis off the streets. And I favor you know,

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Speaker 12: the Trump administration has moved in this direction and I

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Speaker 12: think they should continue to do this civil commitment policies

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Speaker 12: that will get these folks off the streets.

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Speaker 2: Alex Bearson, unreported truths. Alex, good luck at the airport, buddy,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in before you run. Thanks, guys, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: go to it. I hope you. I hope you're six

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Speaker 2: hours early anyway, or whatever crazy things are saying for

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Speaker 2: New York City these days, Clay can we I just

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Speaker 2: want to address this follow up on what Alex is saying.

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Speaker 2: This is so important when we look at crime, people

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Speaker 2: ask me about what crime is like in New York

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Speaker 2: City when I was growing up there, because this is

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Speaker 2: just the huge turnaround case story thatever. And we sites

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Speaker 2: city twenty two hundred murders in nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one, Okay,

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Speaker 2: twenty two hundreds, huge amount of mimers. Now, there was

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Speaker 2: a lot of decay and disorder and graffiti and bad

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Speaker 2: things going on, but a huge majority of those murders

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Speaker 2: were still happening in high crime areas right there were

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Speaker 2: more stuff would bleed over, The city was less safe,

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Speaker 2: no question, bad guys shooting each other. When you look

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Speaker 2: at Chicago, why is it that rich democrats who live

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Speaker 2: in what isn't like Lincoln Park are really nice area?

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Speaker 2: I don't know Chicago well, is that a fancy area?

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Speaker 2: The North side of Chicago is very nice? Where wherever

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Speaker 2: the fancy rich people in Chicago live. Why aren't they

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Speaker 2: all voting Republican? Because all the shootings are happening in

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Speaker 2: the South and the West Side for the most part.

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Speaker 2: But what you see because of Democrats refusal to deal

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Speaker 2: with these essentially drug addicted and or severely psychiatric, unstable

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Speaker 2: repeat criminals is people being stabbed in broad daylight with

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Speaker 2: their dog in a park in a nice area. Someone

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Speaker 2: on sixty third Street subway in New York City, a

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Speaker 2: man being thrown on the subway tracked by a career criminal,

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Speaker 2: a felon in that case. In the legal alien too,

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Speaker 2: those hit people differently. This isn't about drug dealers shooting

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Speaker 2: drug dealers in inner city.

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Speaker 1: Back that doesn't Even those murders don't make news right

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Speaker 1: still to this day. To your point, I think that's important.

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Speaker 1: I think what Alex is saying too, and what would

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Speaker 1: be interesting is while we may be at a low

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Speaker 1: and murders overall, are people who are one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: innocent being killed at high rates. That's a really fascinating

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Speaker 1: question to go into, right, because if you're engaging in

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Speaker 1: criminal behavior, I still hope you don't get killed. But

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Speaker 1: if criminals are shooting at each other, to Buck's point,

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Speaker 1: when there are twenty two hundred murders going on and

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Speaker 1: most of the people getting killed are those individuals, it

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Speaker 1: is different and it does hit people differently than an

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Speaker 1: eighty three year old veteran like what just happened in

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Speaker 1: Manhattan Richard Williams, or this young eighteen year old college

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Speaker 1: girl who just goes to a park and gets murdered

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Speaker 1: while she's there by an illegal immigrant. Both of these

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Speaker 1: people killed by illegal immigrants. I also come back to Buck,

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Speaker 1: and this is where I think you really have to

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Speaker 1: push back aggressively because they'll say, well, I don't know

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Speaker 1: why you're focusing on immigrant crime again. My answer is

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Speaker 1: because it should be zero. I wish we had a

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Speaker 1: zero crime rate for American citizens. But you, when you

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Speaker 1: come here illegally, you should have never been allowed in

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Speaker 1: this country. You should have never been permitted to commit

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Speaker 1: a crime, and we should have sharedan Gorman and there

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Speaker 1: are a ton of Shargan Gorman's Lake and Riley's everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Young innocent college girls should still be alive. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: let's just kind of take this to an analogy for

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Speaker 1: second Clay. If I was walking through my neighborhood, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I walked Ginger around all the time.

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Speaker 2: She's the sweetest little dog. And but if I start

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Speaker 2: if somebody's eighty pound pit bull was aggressive and attacked,

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Speaker 2: let's say, attacked someone else's dog, and I knew this

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Speaker 2: dog was a danger. I knew this dog was danger

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Speaker 2: risk to people. No owner, no leash, no harness, nothing. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but I'll let's you say, And obviously I know this

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Speaker 2: would be a difficult thing to do. I take this

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Speaker 2: pit bull off of another dog that it's attacking, and

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Speaker 2: I go, you know what, I don't want people to

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Speaker 2: think poorly of pit bulls. So I'm going to take

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Speaker 2: this dog. Instead of taking it to animal control or

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Speaker 2: instead of making sure that it is contained, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: release it in the nearest dog park and just see

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Speaker 2: if it, you know, rips apart someone's toy poodle. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: everybody would rightly think that I was being a monster.

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Speaker 2: Law enforcement in sanctuary cities is doing that every day

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Speaker 2: with these criminals every single and then they and then

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Speaker 2: and they go, oh my gosh, the pit bull just

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Speaker 2: ripped apart a little poodle. Yeah, it's ripped apart five

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Speaker 2: other little poodles, and you keep letting it loose in

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Speaker 2: the park because you don't want to be mean to

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Speaker 2: pit bulls. Sorry to the pit bull owners. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I know you're gonna get I'm just you know, to

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Speaker 2: get ticked off at me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pitbull is the most violent dog. But no, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: if you have a violent but the way that I

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Speaker 1: would put it is, if you have a violent predator

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Speaker 1: that you know is a violent predator.

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Speaker 2: And we'll make it a president Canario Clay, we'll get

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Speaker 2: something that's not gonna upset everybody. Those are huge, very

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Speaker 2: strong dogs, Okay, a present canar. But you see the analogy.

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Speaker 2: It's the same analogy. Yeah, no, it's one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 1: And again it comes back to the question I was

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Speaker 1: asking Alex, which is, and you know this from your

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Speaker 1: time working with the NYPD.

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Speaker 2: Jointly we know who is going to commit murders. At

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Speaker 2: this point, it is very very rare that someone has

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Speaker 2: a completely clean criminal background and just kills a completely

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Speaker 2: innocent person. Does it happen every now and then, yes,

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Speaker 2: so rarely. The murder rate would be basically non existent

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Speaker 2: if we just kept violent people off the street every

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Speaker 2: and this is where unfortunately, libertarians, you have been a

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Speaker 2: scourge on this issue. I'm just going to say it

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Speaker 2: out loud, the libertarian industrial complex with their.

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Speaker 10: Three strikes laws. People are going to prison forever for

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Speaker 10: stealing a pair of socks. No, we actually need three

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Speaker 10: strikes laws. We just need them to be for serious felling. Okay, now,

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Speaker 10: then you go to prison forever for jaywalking. But you

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Speaker 10: do three class A or you know, class one felonies

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Speaker 10: three every state that thinks that it's serious.

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Speaker 2: About some of you, by the way, are like, that's

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Speaker 2: even two. But let's start there. Three three serious felonies.

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Speaker 2: You go away for twenty three serious felonies. You go

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Speaker 2: You know, not a lot of people are worried about

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Speaker 2: what happens to people, you know, when they come out

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Let's go

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Speaker 1: into the guy that I never would have believed would

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Speaker 1: become the most sane democrat in the country.

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Speaker 2: But he is John Fetterman. And this is pretty awful.

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Speaker 2: This was a uh pro Iran and Hamas protest that

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Speaker 2: happened in Philadelphia, and I want you to listen to

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Speaker 2: what was being chanted. Uh. This is cut thirty two.

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Speaker 2: This happened in Philadelphia. Until they have.

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Speaker 7: Done everything in our power to bring the United States

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Speaker 7: to its knees last night, Whose saints of the enemy?

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Speaker 4: Whoever US military based on crumbles for every.

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Speaker 2: US son who returns home and.

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Speaker 6: You cast him.

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Speaker 5: Commas all the.

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Speaker 6: Please put me the graces of the ground.

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Speaker 2: But every waking moment in direct confrontation with scientism, and

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Speaker 2: they rely on a stronger audience saint to maintain the

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Speaker 2: fighting camposity.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's a woman, although I've been wrong before.

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Speaker 1: For every US soldier who comes back in a casket,

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Speaker 1: we cheer if you had difficulty hearing what was being said.

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Speaker 2: Again, that's in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: That was a rally that they were having in support

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Speaker 1: of Iran and John Fetterman has been going off on

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party and I wanted to just play a

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Speaker 1: couple of these different cuts. Here he is saying Democrat

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Speaker 1: Party is being held hostage by the far left flank

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Speaker 1: from putting the country first and reopening DHS, which would

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Speaker 1: allow the TSA agents to get paid buck. They're about

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Speaker 1: to have their third different missed paycheck, so that's six

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Speaker 1: weeks of not being paid for the TSA agents.

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Speaker 2: Cut twenty two here.

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Speaker 14: To the right thing, cut the country ahead of the party.

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Speaker 14: Now there's a huge rally, you know that another no

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Speaker 14: Kings kinds of protest. So now it's it's also probably

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Speaker 14: motivating some people in my that not they might be

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Speaker 14: afraid to reopen now because they are demanding these kinds

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Speaker 14: there was ever going to be a.

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Speaker 1: Solution, okay, And then here he is saying, shutting down

653
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Speaker 1: the government always wrong. TSA agents are struggling cut twenty three.

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Speaker 14: It's always wrong, regardless whatever the party's doing. It shutting

655
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Speaker 14: down our government and you can see the kinds of

656
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Speaker 14: chaos that's created across our right now. They're selling their blood,

657
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Speaker 14: they have to take you know, pay loans and just

658
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Speaker 14: as kinds of chaos. So it's fundamentally wrong, and that's

659
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Speaker 14: why I refuse to be a part of it.

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Speaker 1: Buck, what percentage of this audience, and you and I

661
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Speaker 1: have been in this camp before, what percentage of this

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Speaker 1: audience do you think could go a month and a

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Speaker 1: half without being paid at their current job and be

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Speaker 1: perfectly fine with that? Because I do think it's important

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Speaker 1: to contextualize what's going on here. We're talking about now

666
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Speaker 1: six weeks. That's three different pay periods without getting any

667
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Speaker 1: dollars at all from the job that you've been going

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Speaker 1: and working at for for six weeks.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I would bet what do you think sixty five percent

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Speaker 1: of people of those of you that are still working.

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Speaker 1: I know some people are retired, some people don't have

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Speaker 1: full time jobs, but of those that are working full

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Speaker 1: time listening to us today, I would bet sixty five percent,

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Speaker 1: sixty percent of people out there would be in significant

676
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Speaker 1: financial constraints if they didn't get paid for six weeks.

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Speaker 2: Well, that that mirrors what the stats are nationwide, and

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Speaker 2: that's exactly what I would assume is true. Further, because

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Speaker 2: you know, we have all fifty states represented in listenership,

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Speaker 2: and so yeah, I would I would think it's about

681
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Speaker 2: thirty percent of those with us right now, of all

682
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Speaker 2: of you with us could whether this storm financially pretty okay,

683
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Speaker 2: but seventy percent would be up from credit card debt,

684
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Speaker 2: you know, asking the landlord maybe for a month of

685
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Speaker 2: grace or something. I mean that that's where reality is

686
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Speaker 2: for seventy percent of American sixty five to seventy percent.

687
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Speaker 2: And it's just so cruel. You'll notice Democrats complain so

688
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: much if Trump wants to do any cuts, do any

689
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Speaker 2: federal government jobs, or do anything like that at all,

690
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: and yet they'll turn around and throw TSA under the

691
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Speaker 2: boss if it benefits them politically without a second thought.

692
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Speaker 2: They don't care. It's not just DSA, by the way,

693
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Speaker 2: it's also it's DHS More broadly, as we know Coast

694
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Speaker 2: Guard and others are also affected by this, So I

695
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Speaker 2: think it's dare I say it, It is disgraceful, It

696
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Speaker 2: is deplorable.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And that by the way, Elon Musk offered to pay

699
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Speaker 1: the TSA agents, and there was a decision made that

700
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Speaker 1: it was probably not legal, and rather than getting into

701
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Speaker 1: a legal battle over whether that was permitted or not,

702
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Speaker 1: the Trump administration decided they would say thank you, but

703
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Speaker 1: decline his his willingness to pay. I just I come

704
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Speaker 1: back to this should just not be allowed to happen.

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Speaker 1: And I'm looking right now. The headline is CNN the

706
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Speaker 1: amount of workers that are calling out again, it appears

707
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Speaker 1: to be constantly New York City, Houston, Atlanta, New Orleans,

708
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Speaker 1: and those cities by Atlanta. If I didn't say it,

709
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Speaker 1: overwhelmingly dealing with the biggest issues here. But I just

710
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: think this should be eliminated once and for all. I

711
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Speaker 1: don't think you should be able to go to work

712
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Speaker 1: and not be paid. And I understand some of you say, well,

713
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Speaker 1: they're going to get paid eventually, okay, But again I

714
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Speaker 1: come back to how many of you could go six

715
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Speaker 1: weeks at your jobs not being paid at all, knowing

716
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Speaker 1: that it might be months before you got paid for

717
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Speaker 1: the time that you're working.

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Speaker 2: I just this is not what they signed up for.

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately we're losing hundreds of employees and and it's

720
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Speaker 1: a total mess. And again, I think the important thing

721
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Speaker 1: to keep in mind here is Democrats have decided this

722
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Speaker 1: is a price worth paying because they want to keep

723
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Speaker 1: as many people as they can from getting deported who

724
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Speaker 1: are in this country illegally. They're making citizens suffer for

725
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Speaker 1: their attempt to protect non citizens.

726
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Speaker 2: Yes, and they're also going after ts I mean, when

727
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Speaker 2: TSA is affected by this, I know it's DHS more broadly,

728
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Speaker 2: but I guess it has nothing to do with what

729
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Speaker 2: their objections are. So this is Democrats pulling the fire alarms,

730
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Speaker 2: so to speak. This is lying in the streets so

731
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Speaker 2: the cars can't get by. I mean, it's obstruction. What

732
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Speaker 2: they're doing is just pure obstruction of government administration. And

733
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Speaker 2: they're doing it undercover of caring so much about what

734
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Speaker 2: happened in Minneapolis. How many Democrat members of Congress could

735
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Speaker 2: even name both of the people who are killed in

736
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Speaker 2: their altercations with Ice in Minneapolis at this point, I

737
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Speaker 2: think they can name one. I doubt most of them

738
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Speaker 2: could even name both of them right now. They don't

739
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Speaker 2: care point, they don't actually care about any of this.

740
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Speaker 2: They just want power, and they're willing to make people miserable,

741
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Speaker 2: and they're willing to make Americans suffer and slow down

742
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Speaker 2: your travel and cause all kinds of disruptions to commerce

743
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Speaker 2: to businesses because they're not getting their way and because

744
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Speaker 2: they don't have anything else to go on here with Trump,

745
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Speaker 2: they were, Yeah, are they hoping that something terrible happens

746
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: in the Iran war so that they can then use that? Sure,

747
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Speaker 2: but hasn't happened yet, So Clay, this is the best

748
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Speaker 2: they've got.

749
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Speaker 1: This is a we mentioned this before we were going

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Speaker 1: to have our guests on I think, and I wanted

751
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Speaker 1: to come back to it. This is from Cash Battel

752
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Speaker 1: and I we mentioned this. This news just came out

753
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Speaker 1: about about an hour ago now forty five minutes or so,

754
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Speaker 1: and ied was placed at McDill Air Force Base, home

755
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: to Sinthcom and US Special Operations Command. A brother and

756
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: a sister have now been indicted. What is in custody

757
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Speaker 1: for accessory and evidence tampering, and the primary suspect is

758
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Speaker 1: charged with explosives offensives is currently in China, working with

759
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: our partners, will continue pursuing all these responsible and ensure

760
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Speaker 1: they're brought to justice. They say this is tied to

761
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Speaker 1: the Iran war. The device was planted there. So the

762
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Speaker 1: reason why I bring it up is again, we had

763
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Speaker 1: the situation buck in Detroit, north of Detroit, we had

764
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Speaker 1: the situation at Old Dominion University. These are terror attacks,

765
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Speaker 1: by the way, by situations Austin and the attempted terror

766
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Speaker 1: attack in New York City. And now we have this

767
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Speaker 1: situation that is coming out that was attempted in Florida

768
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Speaker 1: and again I mean FBI Tampa accused of hiding and

769
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Speaker 1: attempting to set off an ied and we'll see what

770
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Speaker 1: exactly happens for this. But on March sixteenth, FBI Tampa

771
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Speaker 1: announced that a suspicious package been discovered and they were

772
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Speaker 1: then able to track down where it was and they

773
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Speaker 1: believe it was connected to what's going on in Iran.

774
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Speaker 1: So yet another would be attempt to create an element

775
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Speaker 1: of terror kill people. And the reason why I bring

776
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Speaker 1: that up in conjunction with the TSA is you would think,

777
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Speaker 1: of all times that we would want the TSA to

778
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Speaker 1: be as safe as possible.

779
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Speaker 2: It would be now when we know that there have

780
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Speaker 2: been even more aggressive attempts to bring terror attacks to

781
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Speaker 2: this country than in the past, It just to me

782
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Speaker 2: is indefensible. All right, let's hop into some of our

783
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: calls here, Clakes. We've got a lot stacked up, and

784
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Speaker 2: also some of our talkbacks. We have Randy in Cocoa, Florida.

785
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Speaker 2: What's going on? Randy?

786
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Speaker 3: Hi, how are you doing?

787
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Speaker 2: We're greatat great.

788
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Speaker 3: I and my wife have a huge amount of respect

789
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Speaker 3: for you too. We listened to you every day if

790
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: at all possible, and you have no idea how invaluable

791
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 3: what you do for the country is. But I wanted

792
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Speaker 3: to talk about Iran. There is an aspect to the

793
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Speaker 3: conflict there that I can't believe it's been overlooked. I

794
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: spend a lot of time yelling at my radio that

795
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: we need to take a page from World War Two

796
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Speaker 3: when we dropped hundreds and hundreds of small arms and

797
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Speaker 3: tons of ammunition, explosives, first aid communications gear to the

798
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Speaker 3: resistance fighters of Europe. And I can't, for the life

799
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Speaker 3: of me understand why we're not doing it for the

800
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Speaker 3: resistance in Iran. It would be a military asset that

801
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Speaker 3: would be cost effective beyond belief, we'd be making good

802
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Speaker 3: on a promise that we made to those people to

803
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Speaker 3: watch out for them and take care of them. Any

804
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Speaker 3: solution to the Iran conflict that does not involve the

805
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 3: complete and total removal of the theocracy is not a victory.

806
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Speaker 3: It isn't a illusion of victory, and we will regret it.

807
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Speaker 3: We will fight this war all over again within ten years.

808
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Speaker 3: If we leave those people in power, they have got

809
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Speaker 3: to go, just like the Nazis had to go at

810
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Speaker 3: the end of World War Two.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call and the historic analogy, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard anybody make this suggestion. My guess would

813
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Speaker 1: be that right now the IRGC is still in control

814
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Speaker 1: of much of Iran, and that if we were to

815
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Speaker 1: drop weapons, we think those weapons would end up in

816
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Speaker 1: the hands of our adversaries as opposed to the adversaries

817
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Speaker 1: of the government. Would that be your sign off on

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Speaker 1: what you would expect is the rationale so far for

819
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Speaker 1: why weapons drops are not occurring.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have the networks on the ground to

821
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Speaker 2: get the weapons too. We don't know who would be

822
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Speaker 2: trying to get the weapons to We were the British

823
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Speaker 2: and the French, for example, the Allies the Brits knew

824
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Speaker 2: that there were people in France who did not want

825
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Speaker 2: the Nazis there and in charge, and they weren't that

826
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Speaker 2: hard to find under the occupation VC government and all that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we know in Iran. I mean, we're

828
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Speaker 2: the invaders technically, so it's a little bit more, a

829
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Speaker 2: little bit of a sketchier situation with regard to that.

830
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Speaker 2: Although I wish we could get some resistance going on

831
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Speaker 2: the ground. Jeanine and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania wants to chat. What's up, Jeanine.

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Speaker 15: Notice is probably a long shot, but I was wondering

833
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Speaker 15: if we could compile a list of the TSA workers

834
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Speaker 15: and set up a go fund Me and have Elon

835
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Speaker 15: Musk or other people help to donate to them, even

836
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Speaker 15: if it's done state by state. But I'm sure that

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Speaker 15: there's federal regulations that we have to work around.

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Speaker 2: I think that I think the problem is, first of all,

839
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Speaker 2: how would we you're saying, why can't we all raise

840
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Speaker 2: money to pay the TSA salaries? Didn't Elon offer to

841
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Speaker 2: do it in self, Clay, and that was kind of

842
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Speaker 2: brushed aside. First of all, how much has That's why

843
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Speaker 2: we're talking.

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Speaker 1: About, well, there's fifty thousand employees six weeks. If the

845
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Speaker 1: average employee is making fifty thousand dollars a year, the

846
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Speaker 1: math on that would be roughly one thousand dollars a

847
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Speaker 1: week per.

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Speaker 2: Six thousand times fifty thousand. Who wants to do that math?

849
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Speaker 2: We're looking at three one hundred million or three billion

850
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Speaker 2: or what is that? I think it's three hundred million.

851
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Speaker 2: There we go. Three hundred million sounds right. I'm doing

852
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Speaker 2: math on my calculator right now. That was pretty good,

853
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: by the way, I think mackenzie would definitely hire you.

854
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Speaker 2: That was, yes, the three hundred million.

855
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Speaker 1: So yeah, with three hundred million dollars, I don't know

856
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Speaker 1: what the biggest GoFundMe ever has been, but I would

857
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Speaker 1: guess that's orders of magnitude larger. And again, the thing

858
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Speaker 1: I would say is they're eventually going to get the money,

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Speaker 1: so it's not as if they are beings.

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Speaker 2: It's the fact that they're not being paid currently. And again,

861
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Speaker 2: all of your.

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00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: Bills, as you well know, do not stop, and so

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Speaker 1: the average person out there doesn't have that luxury. And

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Speaker 1: a lot of these people have kids and they're taking

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Speaker 1: time off and all of those things, and so again,

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Speaker 1: I think this is a significant, significant story that is

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Speaker 1: indefensible regardless of your political posture. And if I were

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Speaker 1: lot of people out there are weighing in on a

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Speaker 1: variety of different topics, and we'll have some fun with

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Speaker 1: that during the course of the final hour of today's show.

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Speaker 1: But we are joined now by Marie Callahan, journalist New

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Speaker 1: York Times bestselling author, host of The Nerve, and Okay,

916
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: Buck tells me that you have a strong take on this.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to throw them under the bus, but

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Speaker 1: sources tell me that Carrie Sexton and Laura Travis, both independently,

919
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: have been watching this John F. Kennedy Junior and Carolyn

920
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: Bassett show every time I walk through my bedroom. It

921
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Speaker 1: has been playing over the past few days. It makes

922
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Speaker 1: me think that women everywhere are watching this show. The

923
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: parts that I have seen are trash. Why are they watching?

924
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 4: That's for me?

926
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Speaker 12: I take it?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, well listen, I don't know that it's I

929
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Speaker 4: would love to know the demographics of who is watching

930
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Speaker 4: the breakdown between men.

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Speaker 16: And women, the ages.

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Speaker 4: It is hitting a nineties nostalgia marrow like nothing else

933
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Speaker 4: it is.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Bauren, it is white women between the

935
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Speaker 1: ages of twenty and fifty that are ninety five percent.

936
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Speaker 2: I'm convinced of the viewership of this show. This is

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Speaker 2: my take on who's watching interesting?

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Speaker 16: Interesting? Well, listen, I'm something of a Kennedy historian.

939
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Speaker 4: I wrote the book Ask Not about the real story

940
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Speaker 4: of the way that the Kennedy men have treated their women.

941
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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's upsetting to me actually, because I

942
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Speaker 4: was talking to a friend of mine over the weekend,

943
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Speaker 4: very smart, very sophisticated, lifelong New Yorker grew up with JFK.

944
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Speaker 4: Junior in our faces, said, Oh, you mean it's not true,

945
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Speaker 4: Like the way in which their story is being depicted

946
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Speaker 4: in this Ryan Murphy FX Hulu melodrama isn't true.

947
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Speaker 16: And I'm like, none of it's true. They were both

948
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 16: pretty awful, shallow, vain, selfish people. He was a moron.

949
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Speaker 4: He was a true idiot, and he I believe I

950
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Speaker 4: theorize it with a lot of legitimacy in the book,

951
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Speaker 4: and I've done so on the nerve because we're recapping

952
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: it every week.

953
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Speaker 16: I think that was a murder suicide. I really wow.

954
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Speaker 2: Okay, well hold on, Mariene. First of all, before we

955
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: get it, that's a big thing. We're gonna address that

956
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: in a second. I want to hear your love that theory.

957
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: Oh well you think I love that theory? All the

958
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: stuff you said before that injected right into my veins, Maureene.

959
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: Every every time I walk in and my wife is

960
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: watching this show. And by the way, my wife, who

961
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: is totally like as right wig as I am, she

962
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: knows all this stuff, but she's still watching the show,

963
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: so she's very very aware of the truth of the Kennedys.

964
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Speaker 2: But she laughs at me because I can't walk in

965
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Speaker 2: without going, oh, Kennedys are trash. They're the worst people ever.

966
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Speaker 2: Camelot's all a myth, a lie. It is amazing the

967
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: brand creation. I mean, can you speak to this a

968
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: little bit. This whether it's Camelot or it's it's you know, JFK. Junior,

969
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: all this stuff, Teddy Kennedy. These people have a long history.

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Speaker 17: The whole dynasty of Kennedy's of being abject trust fund

971
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 17: scumbags who do really bad things, particularly to women, but

972
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Speaker 17: the media keeps propping them up, keeps pretending that they're

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Speaker 17: the good guys.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to your point right there, Buck, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna tell you my favorite scene thus far of the

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Speaker 4: entire series. I don't know if you happen to quote

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Speaker 4: unquote walk by while your wife is watching it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have.

979
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Speaker 1: This has happened to me seven times. I've walked by

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Speaker 1: and my wife has been walking this show.

981
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Speaker 16: It's like a drive by, such an accident.

982
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: I know.

983
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 4: You guys, you know the scene where Donald Loge as

984
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: Ted Kennedy is ripping JFK Junior a new one for

985
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 4: fighting with Carolyn publicly in the park and they were

986
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 4: like physical, they were like going at it, and Ted

987
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 4: Kennedy flings a New York post on the table across

988
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 4: to JFK.

989
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 16: Junior and goes, this family means.

990
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 4: Something to people, right, And that scene is done straight face,

991
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 4: and it's like, this is a guy who left a campaign.

992
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 2: This scene existed, but yes, continue it's legit.

993
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 16: In three feet of water.

994
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 4: This is a guy who would sexually assault waitresses in

995
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 4: DC restaurants as recently as the nineties. He did it

996
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 4: in front of the late Michael Kelly, who was doing

997
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 4: a profile for him in GQ magazine. And this assault

998
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 4: ran in GQ magazine. And this series is treating this

999
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 4: family like it's our version of the And you know,

1000
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 4: people there there are people who want this sort of

1001
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 4: they want to be narchtized, they want to get high

1002
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 4: on this garbage. And then there are the rest of

1003
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 4: us who are like, wait a minute. My problem, just

1004
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 4: as a storyteller, is that the real story is so

1005
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 4: much darker and more fed up and compelling, and these

1006
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 4: people are such messes. Ryan Murphy easily could have gotten

1007
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 4: three seasons out of this easily.

1008
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 16: But they went with the They went with the fairy

1009
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 16: tale version, and it's ending this week.

1010
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 2: Okay, So now we're talking to Marian Callahan. The nerve

1011
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: is is your is your podcast?

1012
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 4: Right?

1013
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 2: So you're doing uh phenomenal stuff, And I guess my

1014
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: wife is a fan. So I actually come across my

1015
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: life kind of.

1016
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 16: Just walk by when she's listening, like you don't listen,

1017
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 16: I just watch.

1018
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna admit this, you've when I walk by, do

1019
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: I end up watching the rest of the JFK Junior. Yes,

1020
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: I do, but it's an accident when it starts. But Okay,

1021
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest.

1022
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: I have not sat down and watched any of it,

1023
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: but she's obsessed with it, and I told her this

1024
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: was a trash show. But what I was going to

1025
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: say was that I come across my wife listening to

1026
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: your podcast sometimes and I hear you speaking truth about

1027
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: Kennedy's and I'm just, oh, my gosh, it's like the

1028
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: John Ham meme where he's dancing in the club that

1029
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: everyone sees online. Now I'm just like, oh, tell more

1030
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: truth about the Kennedys. They're the worst people ever. I

1031
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: don't her even like Carolins, like Ambassador.

1032
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 10: These people are all just so vain and so worthless,

1033
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 10: and the Democrat media props them up so much.

1034
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: You though your statement, I have to bring myself back

1035
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: into this. You think that the plane crash with JFK Junior,

1036
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: you know, his girlfriend and her sister. To just walk

1037
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: us through the evidence on this, because you made quite

1038
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:42,959
Speaker 2: a claim.

1039
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 16: Oh yes, of course.

1040
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 4: So I studied the NTSB report, the formal investigation and

1041
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 4: findings into that crash like a Talmutik scholar. Okay, so

1042
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 4: here's something that the mainstream media has never reported and

1043
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 4: still will not even though I put it in ask

1044
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 4: not John F. Kennedy Junior, before crashing that night with

1045
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 4: his wife and sister in law on the plane, almost

1046
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 4: smashed into a packed American Airlines commercial jetliner making its

1047
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 4: descent to JFK. They won't report that he didn't turn

1048
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 4: his colms on, he didn't file a flight plan. He

1049
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 4: was seen on the tarmac carrying a half drunk bottle

1050
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 4: of white wine, was on pain pills for a broken bone.

1051
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 4: He had just gotten his cast off. Multiple pilots on

1052
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 4: that tarmac told him, don't go up. I'm not doing it,

1053
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 4: and I'm way more experienced than you are. His flight

1054
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 4: instructor offered to go with him. He said no, and

1055
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 4: he wasn't instrument rated. It was so hazy that night.

1056
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 16: Now, why would he do that?

1057
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 4: Everything in his life was falling apart. His magazine had

1058
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 4: become a laughing stock in the media. It was failing

1059
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: and nobody wanted to buy it. His marriage was falling apart,

1060
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 4: heart his wife was going to leave him. His cousin

1061
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 4: and best friend Anthony was dying of cancer, his sister,

1062
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 4: his closest confidant, was no longer speaking to him, his

1063
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 4: business partner had cut him out of his life. JFK

1064
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: Junior thought it was a joke at first, because nobody

1065
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 4: ever left John F.

1066
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 16: Kennedy Junior's life.

1067
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 12: He was John F.

1068
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 16: Kennedy Junior. This guy had enough after JFK physically assaulted

1069
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 16: him in that magazine's offices. He did not have the

1070
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 16: internal resources to deal with one of those public humiliations,

1071
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 16: let alone a panopoly of them. And so that's what

1072
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 16: I believe.

1073
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: Wow, so that's leak. Yeah, that is very very bleak.

1074
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: Why do you think And the answer may well be

1075
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: The Crown, block made fun of me initially, is a

1076
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: really well done show, and I can understand why there

1077
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: is a strong appeal.

1078
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: Can I just just as background for you, Marene. I

1079
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: just think the whole fascination with the British royal family,

1080
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: particularly for Americans, is absurd. Think that they're also nepotistic

1081
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: clowns that don't do anything of any value. But but

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Speaker 2: The Crown was a really good show.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I agree, it's a really good There is mythologizing

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00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 4: in the Crown as well. You know, with Diana, I

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00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 4: think it would have been far more intriguing if they

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00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 4: had really leaned into her personality disorder. You know, she

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00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 4: stalked one of her married lovers, like she just prank

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00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 4: called the house like the princess of the.

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Speaker 2: Doctor, right the doctor guy or no, it was a

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00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: different dealer.

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Speaker 16: She did also stalk the herd doctor. Yeah, but the

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Speaker 16: art dealer who was married.

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Speaker 4: So I just I think had they you know, and

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Speaker 4: Carolyn Besett, It's the same thing with Love Story. The

1095
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 4: the the business partner who eventually walked out of John's life.

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00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 4: She would prank call him multiple times a day and

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00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 4: into the middle of the night, and he would pick

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00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 4: up the phone and this is what he would hear

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Speaker 4: on the other end.

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Speaker 16: You should get the f out of John's life. He

1101
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 16: hates you. Everybody hates everybody hates you at the office.

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00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 16: You're bringing everybody down.

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00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 6: Why don't you leave?

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00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 16: You're a loser. I mean, this is you know, sixth

1105
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 16: grade girl stuff.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think this show is so popular? Because

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00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: it is like I made fun of it, My wife

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00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: watched it, Carrie watched it. It has really resonated with

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00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: I would My guess is, like I said, I think

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00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: it's a lot of times it's women twenty to fifty.

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00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: Why is this show so popular? Why do you?

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00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 4: Yes? And I'm gonna also bet that demographic has a

1113
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 4: lot of disposable income.

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Speaker 16: I have several theories.

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00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, one, it's a Cinderella story, but it's a real

1116
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 4: life Cinderella story to a point, right the air to

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00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 4: Camelot quote, I put that in quotes. And a girl

1118
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 4: who came out of nowhere, he could have had anybody.

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00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 4: So it's this real sort of wish fulfillment romantic fantasy.

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Speaker 13: There.

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Speaker 4: It's mythologizing which has been going on since the dawn

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00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 4: of humanity. And it's also that last moment in New

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Speaker 4: York before the Internet, you know, and it was a

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01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 4: moment when media mattered, you know, when these people with

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01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 4: the stories that the media chose to tell, how they

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 4: chose to tell them.

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Speaker 16: That that was that was what everybody believed.

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Speaker 4: We're in a much more complicated time and it's not

1129
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 4: an it's no mistake that they make sure to highlight

1130
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 4: the Twin Towers in multiple skyscrapes and backdrops in that series.

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Speaker 2: It is the book is the nineties tell the book.

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01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: But I mean, I do think there's a huge amount

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01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,479
Speaker 2: of nineties nostalgia that has captured much of the people

1134
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: who did not live in the nineties, if that may.

1135
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Speaker 2: I see it on my own kids. I was just

1136
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: plugging Maureen's book because Carrie's read it cover to cover.

1137
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 2: Asked not about the Kennedys and how they treated women

1138
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: and everybody. No, this is all true. By the way, Maureen,

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Speaker 2: I didn't even get a choice in this, like Clay.

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01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: You know, Clay and I talked is like my wife

1141
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: she says, you got to have Maureen Callahan on to

1142
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: talk about the show and the Kennedys and everything else.

1143
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: So she's a fan, and my wife's yeah, when Wifey's

1144
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: an actual fan of like, I got I have a

1145
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: person on the show. So yeah, I know she loved

1146
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Speaker 2: the book and your analysis on this stuff. And now,

1147
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: by the way, she's shouting from downstairs that we have

1148
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 2: to have you on the next time you have something

1149
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: really juicy on a celebrity takedown because you see through

1150
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Speaker 2: all the nonsense, so we're going to have you back.

1151
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Speaker 16: Okay, thank you guys so much. It was really fun.

1152
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 16: What a pleasure.

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01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: The nerve is the podcast. Go check it out late.

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01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: I'll tell you all about Look, this is serious coming

1155
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: out of that, but it is a very very popular

1156
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: show that is going on. But look, right now, so

1157
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Speaker 1: many people out there are worried about their own safety.

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Speaker 1: We had earlier conversations about innocent crime victims that had

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Speaker 1: done absolutely nothing and they're going about their day and

1160
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Speaker 1: something awful happens to them. If you are out there

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Speaker 1: and you've got a kid, you've got a daughter, you

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Speaker 1: got a granddaughter, you got a grandson. They're off to college,

1163
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Speaker 1: they're finishing, maybe they're going to have summer jobs somewhere.

1164
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Speaker 1: Maybe you are in your home and Buck was talking

1165
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Speaker 1: earlier about the difference between a Rottweiler and the pit

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Speaker 1: Maybe you just want something that will protect you, but

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Speaker 1: you're worried about the lethality because maybe you got teenagers

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Speaker 11: Radio news and politics, but also a little comic relief.

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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