WEBVTT - Black Man in a Little Dress (with Devon Walker)

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, much like a black man in a dress.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about movie of me raising a white family

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<v Speaker 1>would be hilarious. Your life, you're just thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it like baby again.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, that's that's a classic. Sorry half written

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like chips in your quals? Are racists money turkey stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell me.

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<v Speaker 3>Knock if you who buck bitch?

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<v Speaker 1>There it is, there it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My

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<v Speaker 2>Mama Told Me.

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<v Speaker 1>The podcast. It dives deep into the pockets of black

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 2>And we finally work to prove that we only know

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<v Speaker 2>the name Christmas Addicts because of white people's unquenchable thirst

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<v Speaker 2>for black death. That nigga did nothing in the Revolutionary War.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't contribute one bit, and for some fucking reason,

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<v Speaker 4>they keep putting him in our history books. There's no

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<v Speaker 4>reason for us to know the first man who died

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<v Speaker 4>in a war.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't do that for any other war.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not another fucking war where you know the first

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<v Speaker 2>dude who died. But for some reason, the nigga that

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<v Speaker 2>does in the Revolutionary War, they decide they gotta tell

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<v Speaker 2>every goddamn body. If that's not a conspiracy, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know what is? What about World War One?

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<v Speaker 3>World War one? That German chan and slur motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>Or Archduke Ferdinand or whatever. Yeah, we barely know him.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know Christmas addicts better than him?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Christmas addicts way better. You don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>what the Archduke looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>Not at all. And I've seen so many drunks. He's

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<v Speaker 1>always drawn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah they didn't, but they got pictures of Christmas ass

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground, bloody.

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<v Speaker 1>White people pointing like, yeah, he dead. Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>They love that Christmas And what the fuck is a Christmas?

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that they do this to us.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a made up fucking name.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, man, I'm Lanston Kerman and I'm furious.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm David Boy, and I'm equally upset. We have.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a phenomenal guest here today who I hope

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<v Speaker 2>is equally enraged as as the two of us. He

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<v Speaker 2>better come in hot.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't play that ship if he's a Christmas Addicts apologizer.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a phenomenal comedian.

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<v Speaker 1>He's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>You know him from from all kinds of work, most

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<v Speaker 2>of which were not allowed to promote anymore because of

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<v Speaker 2>dual strikes that are happening. But most importantly, you know

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<v Speaker 2>him from when It's Happening Saturday Night Live. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>cast member on that show. He's hilarious. Please give it

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<v Speaker 2>up for Devin Walker.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I didn't know if I was supposed to pop in.

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<v Speaker 6>But also, like Christmas Addicts, he is high schools named

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<v Speaker 6>after him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, that's crazy, Like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you even justify that to like, is there a naming commission?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know how you name him

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<v Speaker 1>high school?

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<v Speaker 2>Ain't no Archduke Ferdinand high School?

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<v Speaker 1>It would make more sense because like, why does he

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<v Speaker 1>get a school? What Chrispy Dude? That means that makes

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<v Speaker 1>me feel like I could get a school David by

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<v Speaker 1>David Borrie elementary is high school? Don't do that to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you small like we're dreaming and we're dreaming.

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<v Speaker 1>We're dreaming.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like I feel like you could get a

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<v Speaker 5>building in like a performing arts academy.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I could. I think it makes it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like the school, Like yeah, I used to play full

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<v Speaker 1>back at Bory. That sounds that does sound good? YEA, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be honest. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Kerman is ever gonna have a nice

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<v Speaker 2>to it. Yeah, and I'm a big fan. I like me,

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<v Speaker 2>but but I just don't nobody's gonna be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a hooping at Kerman and that sounds icky.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, I think I could hear it. I hear it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I gotta maybe I gotta do some self reflection.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's some self matrid inside of this that I gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a nice sounding name. Damn.

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<v Speaker 6>The high school I went to was called Flugerville High School.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what did he die?

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<v Speaker 5>He was like the guy who created the town that

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<v Speaker 5>I grew up in, like the town love. I grew

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<v Speaker 5>up in a town outside of Austin called Fluerville, Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck, So you just had a local, a local man

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<v Speaker 2>high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's I don't think that's that's the

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<v Speaker 1>man founded a town. That's a big thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's Nah, you're playing This is grossing me out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. What did Christmas do? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's my point. Just let the man be dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop writing about him and telling everybody he got beat up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I bet his cousins and like brothers and sisters

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<v Speaker 1>hated it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The Addicts family is not happy about what's happening here.

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<v Speaker 1>Devin.

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<v Speaker 2>You you you came to us with a conspiracy theory

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<v Speaker 2>that uh oh oh oh.

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<v Speaker 1>What is this?

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<v Speaker 2>We have Christmas Addicts updates. That that is Christmas Addicts

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<v Speaker 2>High School. That's right, only one person barely in frame.

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<v Speaker 2>This is rough the varsity.

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<v Speaker 5>Sports at the at the bottom, it says a storied legacy,

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<v Speaker 5>Our legacy of serving African American students in Indianapolis continues today.

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<v Speaker 1>God damn. So it's basically like just go here and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna die.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my other problem with Christmas Attics High School is

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<v Speaker 2>that it never is in service of white children.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>They never you never send your white child to Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>Atticts High School because y'all know that's fucked up. You

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<v Speaker 2>know that's not a brand you want to attach yourself to.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a loser.

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<v Speaker 3>Just let him be a loser.

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<v Speaker 2>He got shot.

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<v Speaker 1>I only want people to talk about it if I

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<v Speaker 1>go out.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, come on, man and doing no cool neo kicks.

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<v Speaker 1>He just got shot. He probably didn't even have like

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<v Speaker 1>a spin just started. You probably even know it was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet he thought it wasn't gonna happen. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>shoot me.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they saw that line of white men in

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<v Speaker 2>blue suits and one nigga and they were like shoot him.

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<v Speaker 3>And nobody and.

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<v Speaker 1>He is so alone. Nobody even went, oh, no Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>They yeah, you know, they're like, oh, monkey Jim. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>who's gonna dance after something? Who's gonna play the spoons?

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<v Speaker 6>I love so much this podcast on Will Ferrell's network.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay. I don't think he listens. Impossible, I really

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<v Speaker 1>this quarter along ago, Yeah, I don't think he's checking in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'd be a little worried about what was

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<v Speaker 2>happening on.

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<v Speaker 1>This side of town. Well basically saying that in his name.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of every episode, we say praise Will Ferrell.

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<v Speaker 1>The views and opinions expressed by this podcast do reflect

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<v Speaker 1>Will Ferrey almost exclusive. Yeah, where do you think we

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<v Speaker 1>got it? Devin?

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<v Speaker 2>You came to us with a conspiracy theory that has

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<v Speaker 2>zero to do with Christmas addicts, But I will say

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<v Speaker 2>is a conspiracy we've we've touched on in the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was surprised to find out we had not

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<v Speaker 2>fully unpacked, and so this is an exciting day where

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<v Speaker 2>we get to do a pretty classic, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theory. You said, my mama told me black man

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<v Speaker 2>have to wear a dress in order to succeed him.

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<v Speaker 5>Hollywood, how is my man supposed to schmeet his meet

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<v Speaker 5>with this ship?

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<v Speaker 1>Bro? What the to jump in?

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever you process whatever that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Come from any direction.

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<v Speaker 6>I really wasn't ready for that.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought, I really thought you were gonna pull like

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<v Speaker 5>a quote from Kat Williams, I really.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't that would be a traditional round exactly. You hit me.

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<v Speaker 6>You hit me with a spin move. That's what Christmas

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<v Speaker 6>addict should I had but.

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<v Speaker 1>A dunk.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I mean I feel like I was surprised.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, That's why I submitted a couple because

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<v Speaker 5>I would have I figured y'all probably would have done

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<v Speaker 5>this one already. But it's definitely a thing that I

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<v Speaker 5>grew up here about, and it's the thing that like

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<v Speaker 5>I was literally I was in Houston this weekend and

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<v Speaker 5>I took a Huber to the airport and the guy

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<v Speaker 5>was like, oh, we brought you to Houston. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I was doing shows. I do stand up and he

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<v Speaker 5>was just like, they get that dress on you yet,

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<v Speaker 5>don't let them do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet.

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<v Speaker 6>Damn he said, he said, he said, it's coming.

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<v Speaker 5>And so like that is the thing that I've always

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<v Speaker 5>especially like my mom told me this when I was young,

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<v Speaker 5>but like, especially like the older I get and the

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<v Speaker 5>more the further I get in comedy, that keep being

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<v Speaker 5>like it's on his way, that dress, the dress coming

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<v Speaker 5>for you dog, you know, And they always they always

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<v Speaker 5>got like a video reference. They always got like Chappelle

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<v Speaker 5>talking about it or like all these guys have like

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<v Speaker 5>real theories on it, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you say they is the I know you

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<v Speaker 2>said your mom is apparently one of the sources. But

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<v Speaker 2>but is this a mostly family? Is this friends? Is

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<v Speaker 2>this broadened out to your larger Texas community?

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<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Where is this coming from?

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<v Speaker 6>This is mostly strangers, That's who it's mostly. It's mostly

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<v Speaker 6>people that I've never spoken to before in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah or after?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>And that like one time, the first the first TV

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<v Speaker 5>money I ever got, I went and bought a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>of gold teeth that was like the first thing that

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<v Speaker 5>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you, young man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, really with before I before I figured out my

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<v Speaker 5>health insurance, I went to go buy gold teeth from

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<v Speaker 5>from this from this woman named Helen, and she's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>this is this stud woman who makes gold teeth and

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<v Speaker 5>like a were like a warehouse, like a upstairs like

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<v Speaker 5>a warehouse.

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<v Speaker 1>And wait, so she's gay. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She's gay and also warning you of the emasculation of

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<v Speaker 2>the black man.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 6>She was really concerned about it.

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<v Speaker 5>She's a stud though, you're right, which is like its

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<v Speaker 5>own kind of separate Yeah, you know, it's its own

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<v Speaker 5>kind of separate category.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're familiar with a few.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've been bullied by a few.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, she was really just going in.

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<v Speaker 5>She was really just she was just like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>she she was like, look, I see you doing good,

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<v Speaker 5>but like I know, you probably want to get to

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<v Speaker 5>that top level and you know what they're about to

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<v Speaker 5>make you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't let them do it.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's like, I don't with y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Would y'all ever do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're going to get here this fast.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was worried. I was worried about this this.

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<v Speaker 2>Morning, Bory, Do you want to start? Do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to answer for yourself first?

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<v Speaker 1>It's so complicated. I'm feeling the same way because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people got uncles, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, uh. It's hard, right because I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's anything inherently shameful about dressing up

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<v Speaker 1>like a woman, Like I don't think it's that bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do also part of me want part of

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<v Speaker 1>me does worry that it would be this thing of

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<v Speaker 1>like an idea of relinquishing some control. So do I

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<v Speaker 1>think I would do it? Ultimately? I don't think so,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm also I don't think I would. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also like, that's far outside of how my humor. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not like a I don't even dress I wouldn't me

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a crazy costume is also something I really wouldn't be. It's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like, silly is not really

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<v Speaker 1>my stick anyways, so it would be it would be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty out of character, and like it would also be

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<v Speaker 1>out of character for me to dress up like anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Right, You're.

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<v Speaker 2>Not You're not a part of the dress up gang.

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't You ain't doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I look wild physically anyways. You don't even put a

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<v Speaker 1>T shirt on?

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<v Speaker 3>My man, he got me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny. I gotta be to be taken I'm you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I'm trying to be taken to

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm a weird looking guy anyway. So it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to I wouldn't dress up in a

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<v Speaker 1>chicken suit either. Yeah, I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>I put a chicken suit on. Yeah, funny to me

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<v Speaker 2>dress me like chicken any day of the week. I

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<v Speaker 2>Daddy's in I will say that I feel the same

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<v Speaker 2>struggle inside of this, of both. There's a part of

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<v Speaker 2>me that wants to be able to do it just

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<v Speaker 2>out of like rejection of all the sort of homophobic

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<v Speaker 2>roots inside of this argument.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be free.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to sort of be beholden to a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of problematic perspectives inside of all of these things

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<v Speaker 2>I do and my heart of heart believe that some

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<v Speaker 2>of the intention of it, though, is coming from a

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<v Speaker 2>malicious place, right that like the the want to see

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<v Speaker 2>black men in dresses, is not coming from a place

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<v Speaker 2>of gender equality and sort of sexual openness. It truly

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<v Speaker 2>is just looking at silly niggas over there in dresses,

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<v Speaker 2>and so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you.

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<v Speaker 2>And and I don't want that to happen either, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm torn and I should admit and I will

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<v Speaker 2>admit that that I want.

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<v Speaker 3>For a live show, for a live show.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh does that make a difference, I don't know. But

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<v Speaker 1>it felt important.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt important to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I'm going to frame it.

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<v Speaker 6>This was not pre recorded.

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<v Speaker 1>Just man, this was.

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<v Speaker 2>Not recorded, and there's no evidence of it except maybe

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<v Speaker 2>one picture. But for a live show, I dressed up

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<v Speaker 2>as Sylvia Plath because we had to like dress up

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<v Speaker 2>as an author and do like funny like made up

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<v Speaker 2>readings of their ship. So I dressed up as Sylvia

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<v Speaker 2>Plath and had a wig and a dress and an

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<v Speaker 2>oven in my hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Hilarious, I was hoping you yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a tiny easy bag oven that I was

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<v Speaker 2>carrying around, because you know, that's how.

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<v Speaker 1>She killed herself. I used to have a joke about that.

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<v Speaker 2>About her blowing or melting her head.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, early days. I feel like you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>answer straight up though, what'd you do it today? Current?

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<v Speaker 2>I think in my current, in my current, today, I

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<v Speaker 2>was my instinct is no because of the so many

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<v Speaker 2>of the associations. But my want is to get to

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<v Speaker 2>a place where yes, I can do it without feeling

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<v Speaker 2>trapped inside of all the bullshit around it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I land kind of on that side of it,

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<v Speaker 5>right because it's like because it's like I actually don't care.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually I really care about wearing a dress like

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<v Speaker 5>I would honestly.

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<v Speaker 6>It is funny, like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, have you seen Man.

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<v Speaker 5>Johanna Man and White Chicks came out when I was

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<v Speaker 5>like eleven years old, and it's just.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, yeah, those that ship was huge.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's like I actually don't feel any opposition to it,

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<v Speaker 5>but I just know how much like I know that

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<v Speaker 5>in the event that I were to put on a

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<v Speaker 5>dress somehow, that would end up being.

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<v Speaker 1>A huge hit.

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<v Speaker 6>And then I'd have and then every African uber driver

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<v Speaker 6>that I came across, and now he's looking at me wild.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how I'm feeling, you would look you would

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<v Speaker 1>look funny as a lady, And that's the issue. I know.

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<v Speaker 6>I know I'd be a big ass lady.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, I'm a six foot three lady. And then I'm

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<v Speaker 5>doing any stuff I'm wearing a cart.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you know, like our linebacker.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 6>There's already something there to it, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's like, but yeah, I just I got I got,

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<v Speaker 5>I got uncles and cousins and a brother that like,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not even that I really care so much about

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<v Speaker 5>what they think.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just like I don't want to have to keep

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<v Speaker 6>talking to them about it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying, it's gonna be it's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>come up so much that I feel like it's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>fuck my life up.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to keep going to the barber shop

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, things more complicated that I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't even talk at the barbershop. I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like, you know, I ain't one of them

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<v Speaker 2>that be chiming in and riffing and all this ship.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep to myself. I just let them do what

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing. And I want to be able to stay

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<v Speaker 2>quietly an observer inside of this toxic space. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to become the subject of the haircuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they're already looking at me funny, because like I

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<v Speaker 1>put out this video and the Nuggets one and like,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you do? Did I didn't think it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching it and then I put the video

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<v Speaker 1>out and I guess the way that the noise that

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<v Speaker 1>I made, Uh Like so like I can't, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't also put a dress on?

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<v Speaker 6>What what noise did you make? Video?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you do that? If you buy it? If you

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<v Speaker 1>buy tickets to one of our live shows, I'm playing

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<v Speaker 1>for you the video I gotta. I didn't think it

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<v Speaker 1>was that bad. He but like what you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>when they're telling it, like he's telling it to other

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<v Speaker 1>people in there and he's like, oh you was like like,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mooted and that's not what happened. Hold on, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. This is longer than I remember, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a little carry it away. But just to

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<v Speaker 1>say I can't I can't also wear a dress it

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<v Speaker 1>that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's so much homophobia that they were crew that

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<v Speaker 2>on a celebratory day in in in Denver, they were

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<v Speaker 2>like this niggas gay.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the best times in my life. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>be excited.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't just let a real, real reaction come out

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<v Speaker 2>of your body. No, you still got to be a

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<v Speaker 2>man posturing as a man, while you celebrate the happiest

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<v Speaker 2>thing that's ever happened to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think it was that bad. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>think it was that bad.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't sound crazy to me, But in context of

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<v Speaker 2>barber shop ship, it does like reving up to get

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<v Speaker 2>you your back alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, it's about to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's not how it happened. That's that's that's always.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, you know, you know what.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing about these those kind of environments too, is

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<v Speaker 5>like you know, we're all like men who live in

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<v Speaker 5>like city, like we don't care, Like I don't care,

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's like you guys can call me gay if

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<v Speaker 5>you want, But then it's like I don't think I care.

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<v Speaker 5>But then as soon as people start saying shit like that,

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<v Speaker 5>like they started doing that at the barbershop, I know

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<v Speaker 5>I would turn on them.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I ain't really nah, I mean what you mean, Like, I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, I know I would go into that mode and

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<v Speaker 5>and I'd be disappointed in myself because I'm better.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think we we don't care because we have

0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 2>created these sort of liberal bubbles for ourselves. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you've spent any real time outside of these havens of

0:21:55.480 --> 0:22:00.520
<v Speaker 2>sort of like uh of celebration and respect and whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>it turns into a very different energy, Like it feels

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<v Speaker 2>it feels crazy to try to stand up for what's

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<v Speaker 2>right when you're put in circumstances where nobody else believes

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:15.920
<v Speaker 2>any of that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then it makes your voice sound even higher,

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<v Speaker 1>like actually, like nobody wants that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, it's it's rough, So it sounds like Devin

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<v Speaker 2>inside of this. You are not a believer necessarily in

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 2>the grander conspiracy, but you are sort of wary of

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<v Speaker 2>the implications of the conspiracy in your own life, the

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<v Speaker 2>sort of fallout that can come from it.

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<v Speaker 5>That is a much more academic way of putting it

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<v Speaker 5>than I could have, So I appreciate you saying it

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<v Speaker 5>instead of me.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the best follow up question I have for

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.439
<v Speaker 2>that is, what do we do about this? Is this

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<v Speaker 2>something that you feel like can be changed? Because niggas

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<v Speaker 2>don't really wear dresses anymore, like besides like Instagram sort

0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:08.439
<v Speaker 2>of like the the you know skit motherfuckers, like niggas

0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:11.000
<v Speaker 2>and dresses ain't a thing on TV the way it

0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 2>used to be in part because of this constant barrage

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 2>of homophobic uncles being like, don't let this happen to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, do you think we can ever change that perspective?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I think no, no, no, well.

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<v Speaker 5>No, probably I wanted to be like, yeah, like you know,

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 5>once the's once these old niggas get out the way,

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<v Speaker 5>then like you know, the younger people will like be

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<v Speaker 5>okay with But actually again, I was just I was

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<v Speaker 5>just when I was in Houston.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I'm from Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>I grew up there, and like I have a chunk

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.399
<v Speaker 5>where I just sort of talk about like some like

0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 5>loosely gay ideas, and it turned.

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<v Speaker 6>The room in such a crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Way voting or something. It turned the room.

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<v Speaker 6>In such a crazy way.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I forget I'm from here, and I'd

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<v Speaker 5>be forgetting about homophobia. I'll be forgetting about that is

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<v Speaker 5>like much more the norm.

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:09.959
<v Speaker 1>Than like, you know a lot of dude that's their

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<v Speaker 1>whole sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying. So it's like, no, have.

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 2>A sports show that is entirely dedicated to to almost

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 2>talking about sports, but then getting distracted by the gay

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 2>things that the other person said. If you've if you've

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:35.640
<v Speaker 2>never watched Cameron Sports Show, it literally is then being like, yo,

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 2>he had a great game yesterday. Pause, and then the

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 2>other dude being like, yo, you would be you were

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 2>being crazy killing You can't say the nigga had a

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 2>good game.

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<v Speaker 1>You killing a good game is crazy. And they talk

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 1>about like other things men have said that week. Did

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.440
<v Speaker 1>you see that it was like shack or somebody said something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I didn't know he said that. P fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're fifty for sure, fifty and one of them

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<v Speaker 2>used to be a pastor kind of it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So so to.

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<v Speaker 2>Your point, I don't know that there's healing on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of this bory. Do you feel differently? Do

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 2>you feel like there's healing to be found somewhere?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's doable. I think that, Okay. I think

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like that's the way everything is pushing right is,

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<v Speaker 1>like those are the boundaries that are getting pushed more

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>than everything right now. I think like across the board,

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I do think that there's redemption for it.

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I also think some people are able to get away

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Remember when bust of Rhymes wore a dress

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<v Speaker 1>and that was cool, like nobody seemed to have any

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's because he's a giant Jamaican.

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how he got away with it, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's like space for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, I feel like the whole late nineties bust

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 2>of Rhymes was dressing like a geisha, and.

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<v Speaker 6>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>No is that a fucking thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like Buster Rhymes and Andre three thousand have

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 5>seemed to be immune from the rest of it, like

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 5>they said, shield it off.

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 6>Also, it feels like it's a different thing when a

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:17.640
<v Speaker 6>comedian does it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like more I think, yeah, take issue with.

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I think some of it is is that those are

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely weird motherfuckers, versus what it feels like when a

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.639
<v Speaker 2>comedian does it is a little more of this was

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 2>put on you. This was this was asked of you

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:42.400
<v Speaker 2>by a power that be, Whereas like young Thug put

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 2>on address because young Thug thought he looked pretty and

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:51.360
<v Speaker 2>who's gonna tell him otherwise he looked gorgeous and I

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 2>wasn't gonna tell him he didn't either way.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think about this with the comedian aspect. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like that is like an old human trope of a

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>man dressed as like. White guys do it too a lot.

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, in general, no one's doing it anymore, but

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 1>white comedians used to do it all. Missus Doubtfire was

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, there's there's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Show.

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there there's a there's a few great examples, iconic

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 2>examples of white men doing it. I will say it

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel quite as pervasive in the white community as

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 2>it does in the black community. But maybe that's just

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.239
<v Speaker 2>because there are more of them and and there are

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 2>less of us. So it's a numbers game.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean yeah, because because when you when you really

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 6>think about the black men in the dress thing, I

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 6>feel like people really point to like four people, you know,

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 6>it's like not really more of.

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 1>The big black black dressmen.

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who's the mount rushmore of Niggason dresses.

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>That would get the important ship.

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 6>I mean it's we got we got Martin Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, oh yeah, big Mama's house.

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<v Speaker 6>We got oh we have big Mama's house and on

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 6>and he was what's her name on the show.

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>No, what we should go to We should go to

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>adbreak before we do this come back.

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 2>So we'll leave a little cliffhanger here for everybody that's listening.

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<v Speaker 2>We have Martin Lawrence as number one on the Mount Rushmore.

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 2>But when we come back, we'll be back with more

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Devin Walker more, my mama told me, and we'll get

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the rest the three remaining Mount Rushmore contributors. Okay, yeah,

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 2>dear listeners, It's Langston Kerman and it's David Bori and

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 2>we are the hosts of a little podcast called My

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Mama Told Me. And more importantly, my Mama told me

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 2>is going on tour. We're eating a bunch of phenomenal cities,

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 2>and we want you to be there. Yes, come out

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 2>and see us. August twenty fourth, Chicago, Illinois, Illinois. I

0:28:59.080 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know how to do it.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>August twenty sixth, New York, New York, and August twenty

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>seventh and Pittsburgh, PA.

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be telling jokes, We're gonna be playing games,

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 2>we are going to be spreading salacious rumors, and we're

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna be accusing some of your favorite black people of

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 2>being a part of the Illuminati. It's all gonna be phenomenal.

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>You gotta be there.

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Buy your tickets now. I actually am one point four

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>percent my Jerry and African.

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 6>I'm a sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we are back with Devin Walker, and he was

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>about to give us his mouth rushmore of niggas and

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>dresses comedic or otherwise, no, just comedic, right, yeah.

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I feel like so I feel like we gotta go.

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 6>We gotta go Martin.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 5>Lawrence because he he was he was in Dragon on

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 5>Martin and he's so many characters.

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so he did that, then we gotta go, we

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 6>gotta go. Jamie Fox, M.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Wanda was funny, was very funny.

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 6>I would argue, it's always funny. That's that's I think

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 6>the problem is.

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I think I think you're right, it's a pretty funny bit.

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 2>And I think I think a bunch of white executives

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 2>at the table also would make that argument.

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Jim Carrey also did it on that show.

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that, and Jim Carrey ain't did it since,

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>and I think that that's sort of the point, right.

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Jim Carrey was then allowed to go, you know, do

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of other things that did not involve the dress,

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 2>whereas black men are sometimes positioned in a way where

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 2>they have to keep themselves in the dress for the

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 2>rest of their lives.

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>What is that? How you feel about? What are you

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about? I don't I don't agree with that. I'm

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>not saying I'm not saying it's my argument.

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that that is the grander argument is like

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 2>you become beholden to sort of like the wants of

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 2>white expectations. And sometimes it's putting on a dress. Again,

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's doing a fucked up movie. Sometimes it's just

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>a movie where you got a date a white lady

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 2>and you raise a white family, but you black, and

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you don't never acknowledge it. Like I think that's what

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>the conspiracy theory is doing. Is to stay rich, you

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 2>keep doing the white man's bidding, and the best way

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 2>of showing you're willing to do his bidding is to

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 2>put on a dress.

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, ship Like that always makes me think of that.

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 5>I always think about the movie The blind Side. I

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 5>think about that movie.

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, because.

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 6>Like if you ever like the guy who they based

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 6>it off of, like.

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 5>In the in the movie, they make him look like

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 5>he could barely talk.

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 6>They make him look like.

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was just sure, just like a behemoth idiot. Yeah,

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>they make.

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 6>Him look like you couldn't talk or read or write

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 6>or anything.

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 5>This family like taught him, like they made it seem

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 5>like he grew up in like a hut on the

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 5>side of the streets and they and they like taught

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 5>him how to like use a use a fork.

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Like they they're like, Michael, you got to button the shirt.

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>You can't just put it off.

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 6>And I just I feel like the verse of that,

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 6>just a black family adopting a stupid ass white kid,

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 6>would be.

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everything, But I don't have any suntand lotions. That's

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 1>it's deem minute seam right there. That's a lesson for

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>both of us. And I take him back to his mom,

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>like what's he all right? I don't know the voice.

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>That's how they get.

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>So, so okay, we we have Martin Lawrence, we have

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 2>a fox.

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 6>YEP, we gotta we gotta go. Wayne's brothers.

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Wow are they holding a single spot? So they are?

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they're they're they're se.

0:32:55.480 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 6>Marlin or a duo. Their package And the guy who

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 6>did you wanta man doesn't feel like the right, that's not.

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>He's done it in other movies. He's yeah, yeah.

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 6>It kind of breaks the theory because like he didn't

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 6>become like a big star. He didn't become He didn't

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 6>know you know what I'm saying, Like he has some swing.

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean I knew his name off the rip, Yeah,

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>but we didn't all know it.

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 6>I remember that once you said it. Once you said it,

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 6>I was.

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Like, ah, yeah, that was his name, because it wasn't.

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't. He wasn't in dragging that movie life. But

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>he was very feminine in life. Yeah he was.

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 2>He was queer in life, and part of the reason

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't in drag was and I think he does

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>actually dress up in drag when the Yeah, they they

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 2>have that day where they get to like invite guests

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 2>and sort of have like a sexy time and in

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 2>the nightclub. You're right, and the dream dream in about

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 2>uh the coke what was it, the coco cocoa room

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>or room.

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, he he does wear drag in life. I

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:12.720
<v Speaker 2>think multiple times.

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, is there any big one? Is there

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 6>any big one I'm missing? I feel like those are

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 6>the big nineties.

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I think Eddie Murphy feels like a glaring miss. Oh yeah.

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Listing Eddie Murphy as professor is almost exclus.

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>And he was norbit.

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 2>He he also does quite a bit of drag, and

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I think he's sn l. He did a few characters where,

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 2>if I'm not mistaken, where he did drag. He's done

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 2>it a lot.

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 1>He ain't he ain't missed no no turns in it.

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 6>And he became and he was a giant, giant star.

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.919
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, yeah, the biggest, i'd say, the best

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to ever do it in a dress. Yeah, I put

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>him on one.

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 2>He's a hundred Yeah, yea does And then and we'll

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 2>get into the research in a second. But does fat

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 2>suit Negate the dress?

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it does. Okay, I kind of think

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>it does well. But like when Tyler Perry dresses his media,

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what we how do we that?

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Because the nigga ain't funny to me? But I think

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 2>that's why I didn't listen. He made me laugh once I.

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Go, I go soft on Tyler Perry. He's got me

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:43.760
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times.

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 6>Look, they used to they used to make us watch

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 6>those plays after.

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Church, So like I basically like Church again.

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah exactly, So like I have I have fond memories

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 5>as as a kid of watching the plays, specifically, thank you,

0:35:58.040 --> 0:35:59.760
<v Speaker 5>I was trying to tell Likeston.

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>That if they were that bad.

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Na like they're there, you guys are mistaken. And we

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 2>just rewatched Diary of a Mad Black Woman as for

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 2>the podcast, and neither one of us enjoyed that experience.

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 5>So I feel like you would appreciate Tyler Perry just

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 5>because he's a He's a champion of a light skin man.

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:26.879
<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying, Listen as.

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 5>The knights and shining armor. In most of his films,

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 5>it's a wrong and then a beautiful light skin nigga.

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 5>Michael Eally might have been one of them. That could

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 5>be you, bro. You better look. Hey, hey, mister Perry,

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 5>if you listen, les don't mean what he's saying. You

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 5>don't mean what he's saying, Devin.

0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Let me be clear. Let me be clear.

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.800
<v Speaker 2>The fact that Tyler Perry is listening facts in his

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 2>film sometimes does not.

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 5>Does not.

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Change my issues with the quality of the films he's made.

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 2>I'll I skin people the heroes in the story. Absolutely,

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 2>we are. Absolutely we are objectively that is trip. But

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 2>does that make Tyler Perry a good filmmaker.

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 1>It does not. It just means that sometimes sometimes the

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>man is right.

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh, dear listeners, It's Langston Kerman and it's David Borie

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 2>and we are the hosts of a little podcast called

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 2>My Mama Told Me, and more importantly, My Mama Told

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Me is going on tour. We're eating a bunch of

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 2>phenomenal cities, and we want you to be there.

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, come out and see us. August twenty fourth, Chicago, Illinois, Illinois.

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:56.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to do it. August twenty sixth,

0:37:56.560 --> 0:38:00.399
<v Speaker 1>New York, New York. And August twenty seventh and Pittsburgh, PA.

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be telling jokes, we're gonna be playing games,

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 2>we are going to be spreading salacious rumors, and we're

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna be accusing some of your favorite black people of

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 2>being a part of the illuminati. It's all gonna be phenomenal.

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 2>You gotta be there. Buy your tickets now. I did

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of research on your conspiracy that I'd

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 2>love to unpack with you. The most articulated, i would say,

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 2>most iconic breakdown of this conspiracy theory comes from that

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:33.840
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and six interview that Dave Chappelle does on

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Oprah where he explains his refusal to wear a dress

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 2>on set of Blue Streak that basically they didn't beat it.

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, weird, that's that's what.

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's part of his argument inside of this thing

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:53.439
<v Speaker 2>is that like he showed up one day on set,

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 2>he'd been doing very well on the film, having a

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 2>good time, and then there's a dress in his dressing

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 2>room and he goes, hey, what's this for? And they go, oh, Dave,

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 2>we have this really funny scene we just added. We

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.880
<v Speaker 2>think it'd be hilarious if when Martin's breaking out of

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 2>the jail, he disguises or he hides behind you who

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 2>is dressed as a prostitute in using his words sex worker,

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 2>and basically says like this is the bit, so put

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.840
<v Speaker 2>on the dress. We're gonna shoot that, and Dave goes, no,

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not comfortable with that, and then producers get called in,

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 2>then the director gets called in. Dave's being told he's

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:36.560
<v Speaker 2>difficult and unwilling to play ball for a very funny scene,

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 2>and ultimately he refuses, and then they immediately change the

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 2>script back to a scene where he doesn't have to

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 2>wear a dress, and it all is resolved in ten minutes.

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 2>And so his argument is like, if it only took

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes. Then y'all already knew a different option for this.

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>You just wanted to degrade me and lessen me as

0:39:59.040 --> 0:39:59.799
<v Speaker 2>a black man.

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's a black man thing or just

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>like a not great sense of humor thing within that

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 1>specific because we've all been in a position to get

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>like network type notes where you're like, but this is stupid,

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, like like like, I this

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>is a weird side to be on this. I guess

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm on their side.

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've always been on the producer side and the strike.

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. Hey, don't do that,

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no no. And also you know

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:45.320
<v Speaker 1>travel begin America. Uh yeah, no, I but I do.

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I do think there is a case for that. There

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 1>the idea that like they're just like not funny, and.

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 2>That that is part of what Dave says in the

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 2>interview is that he goes like the guy goes, this

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 2>is a this is a funny bit. So many great

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 2>comedians have done a bit like this, and he's like, well,

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 2>if they've done it, then attack and we can write

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:09.879
<v Speaker 2>something better. And they go, you difficult, motherfucker. So it's

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 2>hard to know, and I do air closer to the

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 2>side of being like this is probably just hacky and

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 2>just sort of lazy writing more than it is like

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 2>intentionally trying to take down Dave Chappelle. That's or take

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 2>power from Dave Chappelle.

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 1>That said, I don't.

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Think, if I'm being honest, that I go, Oh, they didn't.

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 2>They would have done that same thing to to whoever

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:42.280
<v Speaker 2>the white counterpart to Dave Chappelle is on a film

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 2>by surprising him with a dress scene out of nowhere.

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:49.760
<v Speaker 6>Right, Like, they never put Michael Rappaport in the dress, Yes.

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:54.399
<v Speaker 2>And and that'd be funny probably, but they're not ever

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna try.

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah they got Chris Rock.

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got Chris Rock. And in fact, I'm glad

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 2>you brought that up because I made a list of

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 2>who I know so far based off of various versions

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 2>of Internet slewthing to have participated in wearing dresses. And

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 2>it's worth noting that some of this came from a

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 2>TikTok that I found that breaks down all of this

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy theory, and that TikTok page is also includes videos

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>called things like transgenders Versus Real Women and my personal

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 2>favorite Black China sold his soul to the Devil. So

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a pretty progressive bunch that's managing this account.

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:54.280
<v Speaker 2>But the list is pretty it's fucking crazy. There's Richard Pryor,

0:42:54.920 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Flip Wilson, Wesley Snipes, Ving Raims, Chris Tucker, Eddie Murphy,

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Martin Lawrence, miguel A Nunez, Tyler, Perry, Arsenio Hall, all

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:11.320
<v Speaker 2>of the Wayans Brothers, Kevin Thompson, Kel Mitchell, Nick, Nick Cannon,

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Jamie Fox, Brandon t Jackson, Terry Crews, Kid Cutting, Young

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Thug as slew of other musicians. The list sort of

0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 2>goes on from there, but but it is it is

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 2>an impressive list.

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Patris O'Neill, Yeah, yeah, one, god, you.

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.440
<v Speaker 6>Know that would have you know, that would have been funny.

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Goddamn, he would be hilarious address objectively, they'd be so funny.

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 5>And dress a Halloween episode of the Office from two

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 5>thousand and seven where the guys from the warehouse all

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 5>wear dresses.

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 6>That's it's right, it's right, it's right there, it's it's

0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 6>already so funny.

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:57.800
<v Speaker 5>Goddamn, you would have wrapped the ship out of that,

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 5>would have that that might have got I'm the Emmy

0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 5>for real.

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 2>That would they would have made him, They would have

0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:04.839
<v Speaker 2>made him serious regular if you put.

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 6>But I look also look that list.

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:11.879
<v Speaker 5>You can't all those All black men wearing a dress

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 5>are not created equal, you know what I'm saying, Like

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 5>kind of like you was like Chris Rock wearing a

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 5>dress on the Fresh Prints. It's very different than young

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 5>Thug or like Kid Cutty wearing a dress. I will say,

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:25.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm a big I'm a big Kid Cutty fan. Did

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 5>y'all see where you were the dress?

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? He looked like ship to me.

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was like it was weird, Like it was

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 5>like I disagree with it on a like you you're

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 5>somehow making this thing not cool, Like I get you're,

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 5>like you think it's so cool that you're doing it

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:44.360
<v Speaker 5>that it kind of makes me not like it.

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 6>That's the one that's the one that I minded the most.

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Weirdly, it bugged me. It was it felt too much.

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he wanted to wear a dress to prove a

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 2>point whatever, but he just didn't good.

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't know. I don't think he chose to

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 1>write dress for his body.

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 2>No, he looked bad and it was like that weird

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 2>homage to Kurt Cobain, and like all of it was

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:15.719
<v Speaker 2>just like you're you're doing too much ship at once, Bro,

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Just just sing your little, your little sad songs.

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:20.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't need none of this.

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's that's that's the biggest problem I've actually had

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 6>with a man in address is Kik cutting.

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't think musicians should even be in this conversation.

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 6>Exactly because I think it's just what about?

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:35.439
<v Speaker 1>What about?

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:38.439
<v Speaker 6>What about? Like like Russell Westbrook, Do you think he's

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.319
<v Speaker 6>Do you think he's involved in this conversation or do.

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 1>You think that do you think I think but he

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 1>is hilarious, he's very funny.

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I will say that he is who the barbershop points

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:55.399
<v Speaker 2>to now in a contemporary sense of this same conspiracy

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 2>theory though, right that like, well, at least for years

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.239
<v Speaker 2>now less so now he's sort of aged out of

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 2>like the shock and awe fashion and it's a little

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.320
<v Speaker 2>more like grounded in his fashion. But when he was

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 2>in the height of his shock and awe fashion, they

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 2>definitely were like that niggas being brainwashed by the powers

0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 2>that be whatever, whatever.

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.839
<v Speaker 5>It's all, it's Russell Westbrook and it's low No Sex.

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 5>Old niggas a really hard time with low No Sex.

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 5>They really can't handle him being.

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you think it's because it's never been as blatant,

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 1>is that like in the in the you know what

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like like like the Rodeo video is like

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>that's like that's like aggressive. I don't think that has

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 1>been a ton of stuff in like main culture that

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 1>people have seen like that from a black man.

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:46.280
<v Speaker 2>A black man demonstrating like queer.

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like they've been there, but it's never you don't

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't see it to that level.

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:56.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't think, right, Yeah, I guess that's true. He's

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.400
<v Speaker 5>the first like really big pop star.

0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 1>That is like a gay black man, right yeah, right right,

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 1>And it's like expressed, you know, you know, like I

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like it would be like things you'd hear people say,

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:09.279
<v Speaker 1>but never like like the imagery like in the video

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. Yeah. No, Tevin camp bro Kevin.

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 6>Last year, Kevin Kemble just came out like in like

0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:21.319
<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty one.

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's had to work through a lot of ship

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 2>before he got comfortable.

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Being Like I think I like men and we knew it.

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Come on, Tevin, you were tricking anybody.

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 2>No, but when when we found out for real, like

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 2>not when he announced it, but when we found out,

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 2>the industry turned on him hard in a way that

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he ever fully recovered from.

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Damn, really, I didn't. I didn't know that.

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I would say that that at least

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 2>my understanding, And some of this is coming from my mother,

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 2>who who a fully unbiased source, but I I think

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 2>my understanding was that Tevin Campbell sort of like when

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 2>he was a cute kid and even as like a

0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 2>cool sexy adult was singing about women, we loved him.

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 2>And then it became sort of a parent that he

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 2>was queer, and the industry stopped fucking with him the

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 2>same way that they used to like with them.

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:22.440
<v Speaker 1>They like, yeah, exactly.

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 5>It's it's funny because like, by that theory, the industry

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 5>kind of wants you to They want you to like

0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 5>seem gay on camera but not be gay in real life.

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm about it, right? I mean that's where this

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 1>song comes from, right, is It's like I feel like

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the men who were in dresses, I don't feel like

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.800
<v Speaker 1>what you hear is that they're gay. What they're what

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:46.919
<v Speaker 1>you're well, they're making them look gay, right, Yeah, yeah,

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't think people thought Eddie Murphy was gay. Well,

0:48:51.000 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I think, and there was there's other of that, there's

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:03.200
<v Speaker 1>other parts of that, but I hear you.

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Martin Lawrence was never being called gay. Martin Lawrence was

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 2>said to have been a masculated for and brainwashed.

0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's a tough it's tough because, yeah, I

0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:21.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Some of this does feel like it's obviously propaganda,

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 2>it's obviously manipulative. But I do think some of the

0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 2>things that end up being greenlit or celebrated or treated

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 2>with a reverence to your point, Devin, of like, Yo,

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 2>the next time I'm in a car, I worry that

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:39.879
<v Speaker 2>my most famous thing is going to be this one

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:42.840
<v Speaker 2>off bit that I did. Is a real fear and

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and frankly is one that that you can't just ignore

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 2>simply because you feel progressive as it relates to queer

0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.239
<v Speaker 2>rights and visibility and all.

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Of that shit. I mean, I think, yeah, a hundred percent,

0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:59.320
<v Speaker 1>that's why we all were all pretty progressive. Nobody was

0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>like hell yeah to dress on me like it's like

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 1>you gotta yeah, you do have to worry about that.

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I read an NPR article about the same issue, and

0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 2>this was I think more of like a I guess,

0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 2>like an opinion piece, I dare say, But the author

0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:20.320
<v Speaker 2>sort of references the black men in the Dress to

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 2>a Carter G. Woodson book, The Miseducation of the Negro,

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:27.440
<v Speaker 2>And in the book, Woodson argues that when someone is

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 2>repeatedly sent to the back door so often that they

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:34.600
<v Speaker 2>eventually don't even know need to be told to go

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 2>to the front door or to the back door, that

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:40.240
<v Speaker 2>they will just naturally go to the back door because

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 2>that is the place that they've been assigned. And he

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:46.680
<v Speaker 2>goes on to say that they are become so conditioned

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 2>inside of this that when it comes to literally the

0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 2>back door, if you showed up to that same back

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 2>door and the back door did not exist, you would

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:57.960
<v Speaker 2>try to cut a hole into the space where the

0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 2>back door did exist, rather than walking through the front.

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:05.400
<v Speaker 2>And he basically suggests that this is the type of

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 2>brainwashing that comes from the types of people who choose

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:14.439
<v Speaker 2>the dress for themselves in comedy, that like an Eddie

0:51:14.520 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Murphy who made a movie where he wanted to wear

0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:22.320
<v Speaker 2>the dress, is sort of conditioned as a sort of

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 2>like sub inside of the white hierarchy.

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:31.080
<v Speaker 1>If that makes sense. I don't I understand the point

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 1>that that's being made. I don't think I necessarily agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that, because I think a lot of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of this also boils down to what

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<v Speaker 1>how humor works and how people work with the humor

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<v Speaker 1>that like vulnerability or being the other, whatever is humorous.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like the state of comedy. Like I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason that that it's not like just a black

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<v Speaker 1>like I said before, a lot a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of humor is based as men dressing up

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<v Speaker 1>what like women and vice versa. British people love that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>They love that shit, love it. They just bec consilling.

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<v Speaker 1>Look a bloke in a jumper. I don't know how dump.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is, like, I'll give a shit about

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, but the but the point to me is

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<v Speaker 1>that like I understand what they're saying, but that we

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<v Speaker 1>do need to allow some space for the idea of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Sh It's just funny, man, you know. It's like it

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<v Speaker 1>is funny and it's funny to be vulnerable. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's where a lot of that comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if this is if it was just black men,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have a bigger issue. But it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a tenet of humor. Dress it up like something

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<v Speaker 1>you're not always it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny and it also I think if if we could

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<v Speaker 2>untether this from all of the homophobia and all of

0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:57.240
<v Speaker 2>these sort of like mal intentioned perspectives that are connected

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<v Speaker 2>to this that have nothing to do with you, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Like like at the root of it,

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<v Speaker 2>address is not necessarily emasculation. Address is address, and you

0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:12.720
<v Speaker 2>can be masculine inside of address. But our own homophobia,

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<v Speaker 2>in years of conditioning, make us see it as a

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<v Speaker 2>version of emasculation. And that's what makes us complicated. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not it's not the dress itself that makes us weaker.

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:27.760
<v Speaker 2>It is our own sense of self that makes us weaker.

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<v Speaker 2>And address just is our articulation of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 5>That whoa, whoa, whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm on the But you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>But would you say that you're not at all? No, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a dog. He's as black as can be, you

0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. We all have the things that

0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:02.680
<v Speaker 1>were good at on this podcast. We all contribute here.

0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 1>And my mama told me.

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<v Speaker 2>So it sounds like we've all sort of landed this plane.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't think that it's necessarily a legit conspiracy theory.

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:18.400
<v Speaker 2>We're not We're not firm believers that this is some

0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:22.959
<v Speaker 2>deep Hollywood agenda to like transform the black man into

0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 2>an emasculated version of himself. That said, we ain't rushing

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:29.800
<v Speaker 2>to be at the front of the line when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to participating in the bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be fair, I think there's also space for

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<v Speaker 1>there to be times that it is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think there is fully possible.

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<v Speaker 2>I think both the both the weaponizing and the humor

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<v Speaker 2>of it being funny and also dangerous on the other side.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, I think that when we're allowed to write again,

0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:54.280
<v Speaker 5>the three of us should all work on a remake,

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<v Speaker 5>a reboot of BAPS.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that I think it should three and we

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<v Speaker 5>should bring it to Universal Pictures. Let's let's get that

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<v Speaker 5>off the ground. We're allowed to love it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that also that white baby thing, come on me,

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<v Speaker 1>Kiky Palmer, white baby one of those Dickey Channel freaks.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, see you changed the story a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit because it was you with a white family.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's you and Palmer raised a white baby. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're pretty good. I think I could go either way.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is writers. You, we're pitching, we're pitching.

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<v Speaker 6>And Timothy shallow Man just as yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then and then my caps is the grandpa.

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<v Speaker 6>Right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, you're just teaching teaching Timothy shallow May to

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<v Speaker 2>use a washcloth.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't out back smoking black and Miles. I

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<v Speaker 1>make him smoke the whole pack.

0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:05.600
<v Speaker 2>He gets real sick that smoking back of cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 6>He's smoking with wood wood tip blacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. By then he looks like et when he was

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:17.000
<v Speaker 1>away from home for too long. It's like, bro, we

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:19.960
<v Speaker 1>gotta get him out of here. This ain't This ain't

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a good house for him. Yeah, they're gonna call CPS.

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<v Speaker 1>This is childhood, Devin. This was this is great.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we did it because you tell the people

0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 2>where they can find you and and what cool shit

0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:32.200
<v Speaker 2>you have going on.

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.279
<v Speaker 6>I'm on tour right now, so just find me. Find

0:56:35.320 --> 0:56:37.799
<v Speaker 6>me online from my Instagram or Twitter whatever you can

0:56:37.840 --> 0:56:38.799
<v Speaker 6>find on my tour info.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know when this is gonna be out, but

0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:42.960
<v Speaker 5>I'm touring for like the next month, so come see

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:43.279
<v Speaker 5>a show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, and poor you want to tell the people

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<v Speaker 2>where they can find you.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, I'm well. First of all, you can catch

0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 1>us on tour, because this comes out next week, you

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 1>can catch us. We still got two more weeks on tour.

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:58.240
<v Speaker 1>You can come out and catch us. That'll be in Texas,

0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Houston and Austin, and then the weekend after that New

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:06.120
<v Speaker 1>York and Pittsburgh and Chicago and Chicago and Chicago, and

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.720
<v Speaker 1>then I go on my own tour. Bring David aplate

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Just added a few dates Columbus, Cincinnati, some

0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 1>other stuff and that's my solo tour. Cool guy jokes

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<v Speaker 1>eighty seven on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, and as always, you can follow me at

0:57:20.400 --> 0:57:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Langston Herman and come to that goddamn my mama told

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:26.680
<v Speaker 2>me live tour. We we are very excited to see

0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 2>you in person. And more importantly, if you want to

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:31.840
<v Speaker 2>send us drops, if you want to send us your

0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:35.160
<v Speaker 2>own conspiracies, if you want to send us pictures of

0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:40.200
<v Speaker 2>white men in dresses who have benefited from from Hollywood's agenda,

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<v Speaker 2>then send it all to my mama pod at gmail

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. We would love to hear from you. That's

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>By bitch.

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<v Speaker 6>Chips in your.

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<v Speaker 5>Qualms race, the holds the player of ows and money,

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<v Speaker 5>achs and turkey stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell me that