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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by FanDuel. It's Friday, July seventeenth, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Well it is for you, at least for us. It's

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Speaker 1: last week. This is pre recorded. I'm Jay Skis here

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Speaker 1: in the Classic Factory, and alongside me, as always task.

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Speaker 2: Melists supporters of other things, this is for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot Hot Booy, Trey Kirby, Hey,

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Speaker 1: hey yo, and over Yonder making the magic happen. Super

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Speaker 1: producer jd. Hello, there he is here. We are something

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Speaker 1: a little different today in the No Dunks world. We're

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Speaker 1: planning our off season content and you're going to help

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Speaker 1: us do that. Last summer, we watched and reviewed every

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Speaker 1: movie from the Jurassic Park franchise. We called it Jurassic Pals,

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Speaker 1: and we broke down all seven movies in hilarious detail.

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Speaker 3: Seven movies, yeah, yeah, yeah, and they.

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Speaker 1: Got a little rough. A couple of years prior to that,

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Speaker 1: we did the very same thing for the Fast and

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Speaker 1: the Furious franchise. We called this one fast friends. I

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Speaker 1: think we're up to eleven movies reviewed at this point

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Speaker 1: because we did Hobbs and Shaw, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We did.

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Speaker 5: You gotta do the spinoff content, of course.

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Speaker 1: So it's time to run another summer series back with

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Speaker 1: a brand new movie franchise. But for the first time ever,

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Speaker 1: we are going to let the fans vote. You'll have

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Speaker 1: a say in what movie franchise we tackle this summer.

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Speaker 1: So on today's show, we're each going to pitch a

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Speaker 1: different movie franchise that we think we should cover. Our

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Speaker 1: four franchises are Indiana Jones, Pirates of the Caribbean, Superman,

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Speaker 1: and Transformers. Those are the four we're voting on.

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Speaker 5: Hi Octane. Yes.

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Speaker 1: At the end of this all, we're going to post

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Speaker 1: a poll on our substack page and we'll have that

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Speaker 1: link in the show notes for everyone. You'll have to

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Speaker 1: jump over to our substack page and make your vote.

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Speaker 1: We'll have the poll there. Okay, so let's get into

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Speaker 1: it again, each guy pitching their case for their movie franchise,

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Speaker 1: and Trey, you're gonna get it started here today with

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Jones franchise.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right, the Indiana Jones franchise, of course, a

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Speaker 3: five movie franchise starring hair No I'm in five movies

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Speaker 3: made it into my pros list. And my conso list

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Speaker 3: a shorter series for sure, but five that's.

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Speaker 5: Easy to do it. It's pretty short movies.

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Speaker 3: I think the longest is number five, the reboot slash Capstone.

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Speaker 3: The Dial of Destiny is like two and a half

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Speaker 3: hours long. Everything else we're talking about nice one minutes.

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Speaker 5: WHOA, You're not bad. I'm literally just gonna be here.

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Speaker 3: It is easy to do, but it goes Raiders of

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Speaker 3: the Lost Art, Temple of Doom, The Last Crusade, The

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Speaker 3: Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and most recently The Dial

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Speaker 3: of Destiny.

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Speaker 5: The pros is one of the cons too.

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Speaker 3: Like these are beloved films, especially the first three notable

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Speaker 3: names Harrison Ford, Steven Spielberg, Sean Connery, Shilah buff He's

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Speaker 3: taken some hits since Crystal Skull, Kate Blanchette, what's your name?

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Speaker 3: Phoebe waller Bridge I believe is in a Dial of

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Speaker 3: Destiny as well. You got a good bix of quality,

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Speaker 3: like the first three guaranteed classics. Yeah, similar to our

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Speaker 3: Jurassic Park franchise, though I think maybe the first three

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Speaker 3: Indiana Jones are probably better collectively than the first three

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Speaker 3: Jurassic Parks. The second one is pretty dark, pretty weird,

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Speaker 3: so we can get in some fun stuff with that.

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Speaker 3: There's also some horrible movies in this franchise, which I

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Speaker 5: Number four. I just watched Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

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Speaker 3: Day came out recently, so I was trying to get

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Speaker 3: all my Spielberg alien movies in. Okay, I think sucks.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen I haven't seen it either.

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Speaker 4: I've never finished it.

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Speaker 5: Well a couple of times.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't get better. But that was funny, so that

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Speaker 3: would be a fun one to talk about the reboot.

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Speaker 5: Number five.

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Speaker 3: I SAWT in the theaters not since, and I think

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Speaker 3: good and that's bad. They're all on Disney Plus, easy

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Speaker 3: to get to. They're exciting, they're funny, they got big stunts,

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Speaker 3: You don't really got to worry about the lore all

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Speaker 3: that much. It'd be fun to like show up wearing

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Speaker 1: You know, I thought you might show up today in

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Speaker 1: a Fedora talk a lot about it.

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Speaker 3: But I don't have a good enough indie Fedora, but like,

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Speaker 3: think of the supplemental content we can do, cracking whips

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Speaker 3: outside of JD's house, going down to Orlando to go

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Speaker 3: to Indiana Jones, stunt spectacular, We definitely do that. One

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Speaker 3: of the cons. Pretty much everything's ever been said about

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Speaker 3: these movies. They've been out for forty plus years, the

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Speaker 3: originals at least, they're the subject of like great books, documentaries.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if we're gonna be treading new ground.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I feel bad for making fun of people his

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Speaker 3: favorite movies, and surely these at least Raiders I think

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Speaker 3: will be some people's favorite movie. But look, I look

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Speaker 3: fast and furious, and we destroyed them for an entire summer.

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Speaker 1: You can take it. It's part of the fun.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you can take it.

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Speaker 3: Uh. And my last con is that at least the

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Speaker 3: first three, maybe the last two, they might not be

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Speaker 1: During the movie.

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Speaker 5: And definitely four and five get that way.

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Speaker 3: But who knows. So that's my pitch for Indiana Jones.

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Speaker 3: Do I think I'm gonna win?

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Speaker 5: No, you don't think so?

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Speaker 1: Do you think because it's I think we.

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Speaker 5: Get the fourthmost votes. Well, I don't know. People are fans. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you do love Indy.

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Speaker 2: What's the negative? Well, why wouldn't people vote? It's just old,

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Speaker 5: There's not like a current release.

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Speaker 3: And like these are these movies were on like you know,

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Speaker 3: Maybe i'd get some some more votes, or maybe people

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Speaker 3: want to hear us, you know, talk trash about Captain

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't know, it's tough. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: So it's like I'm like, oh, yeah, these aren't good movies.

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Speaker 1: I would like to watch them. You were selling me

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Speaker 1: these are quite lengthy. Yeah, any questions for TK and

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Speaker 1: your thoughts at least JD on Indiana.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Raiders are a lot of Stark is one

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Speaker 4: be a lot of me going this was awesome. That

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: It I mean it is a stone cold classic, top

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Speaker 4: five film of all time. So you know, uh, that

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Speaker 4: on things, so but you know it does there is

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Speaker 4: a decline there. And I haven't seen Dial of Destiny

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Speaker 4: I don't want it to taint what I love about

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Speaker 4: Indiana Jones. So I literally just don't want to watch it.

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Speaker 4: I will, of course if it's picked, but only if

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Speaker 4: it's picked. If it's so if you want to torture me,

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Speaker 4: which you probably do, vote for Indiana Jones.

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Speaker 1: Any thoughts on India. Are you an Indiana Jones fan?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Early ones, Yeah for sure. You know he stopped watching,

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Speaker 2: as JD said towards the end, but it's been so long,

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Speaker 2: I don't mind recalling doing it again. That was definitely

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Speaker 2: a series I was thinking about pitching too, because you know,

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Speaker 2: you can't miss off the top. But it is really

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Speaker 2: similar to the one I'm going to pitch too, So there,

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Speaker 2: they're not that far off in a weird one.

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Speaker 1: Well but yeah, first you said first movies like early eighties,

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Speaker 1: right eighty one? Yeah, okay, that's different.

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Speaker 2: That's way different.

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Speaker 5: That's forty years that's right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, oh, hold my beer when we come to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we got the running the game here. Now, I

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Speaker 1: like with all of these, I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: thought you put into it. What would we name our

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Speaker 1: summer podcast series? Four said movie franchise? Like, would we

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Speaker 1: go Indiana Basketball Jones? I mean, it's stupid, It doesn't

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Speaker 3: The Indiana Basketball Jones and the podcast of Plastics Baby.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we can while we talked these through,

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Speaker 1: people could comment away in the on YouTube or obviously

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Speaker 1: on Spotify what we would call the actual spinoff name.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, we had Fast Friends and then Jurassic Palace.

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Speaker 1: We got to have something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, okay, Indiana Jones, our first one down

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Speaker 2: The Pirates are the Caribbean series. I'm already producing it

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Speaker 2: in my head. JD. You're lucky in that the theme

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Speaker 4: No Buffs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, smash buckling gallopingly.

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Speaker 2: Can use it just because you can start them all

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Speaker 2: with it. You put him side by side, they're just

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Speaker 2: like exactly the same. The way you pitch this is

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Speaker 2: meeting Jack Sparrow. I think Jack Sparrow is just an icon.

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Speaker 2: The way he's introduced at the beginning, when he's on

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Speaker 2: the mast of that boat. You've got a low anger,

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Speaker 2: low angle camera angle tilting up to this glamorous man.

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Speaker 2: He looks strong, he looks prideful, and then he's scooping

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Speaker 2: that's what makes Jack Sparrow so good. He does all

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Speaker 2: he's he's still got control cultural impact. Now. I was

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Speaker 2: I think it's just one of those things. It's like

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Speaker 2: on a channel and they just need to put sports on.

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Speaker 2: And they had the fans running across the field like

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Speaker 2: they were Jack Sparrow, like they've got run in their hand.

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Speaker 2: And that was an in between inning thing that they did,

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Speaker 2: because that's how good he was. That's how good. Johnny

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Speaker 2: Depp was an Academy Award nominator for our nomination for

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Speaker 2: Best Actor in that first movie, and the first three

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Speaker 2: movies all tied together. Similar to what you were just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Penelope Cruise and Hove bar damn come

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Speaker 5: Is that a thing?

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Speaker 2: they did the fourth together, they did the fifth together.

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Speaker 2: There they weren't on Stranger Tides. I was trying to

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Speaker 5: And it's hilarious.

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Speaker 5: Literally? Who knew they met on Pirates of the Caribbean.

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Speaker 5: You met on the water.

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Speaker 5: Behind it huge huge, We could really unpack it. Watch

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Speaker 1: You know, we could see the chemistry when that happened.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask the question though, the Johnny Depp

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Speaker 4: Hey, man, I got Marlon Brando? So whatever. I think

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Speaker 2: That's okay, similar to Trey's all five are on Disney Plus,

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Speaker 3: He was.

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Speaker 2: He literally was, I can't.

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Speaker 1: Do it, and then he saw it make a billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I guess I could make that.

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Speaker 2: He raked it in for the second. The first one

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Speaker 2: one billow for Dead's Man's Chest or dead Man's Chest,

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Speaker 2: dead Man's anyways, okay, man, Johnny Depp, No, we're not

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Speaker 2: going away from Johnny. He's too good in this movie.

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Speaker 2: He's too good in these I mean, the cruel, Vicious

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like is that you have to say?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, okay, Jack Sparrow is is the icon of

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely I want to hear the rest of them. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 5: Just to make sure? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: But look, is twenty years ago he was, he was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what would we call said series? Did you put

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Speaker 4: The Podcast of the Caribbean not.

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Speaker 1: Bad, honestly not bad.

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Speaker 5: I don't mind it.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm just thinking of a pun a carab

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Speaker 1: Don't have to involve said title either. You know it's

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Speaker 4: And you know Pirate Pod.

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Speaker 1: All right, two more movie franchises to be pitched to

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Speaker 4: That's right. I'm repping the s I'm repping Clark, Kent,

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Speaker 4: You've got Christopher Reeve, you got Marlon Brando, Gene Hackman,

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Speaker 4: We had a great shot of Superman literally getting drinking

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Speaker 4: Not, no, I would say, as I remember. Then Canon

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Speaker 4: They stuck with Christopher Reeve thankfully. Uh this is the

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00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 4: low point of the of our rewatch. Yeah, guarantee, he's

438
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 4: killed Superman basically for twenty years.

439
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

440
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 4: Then Brian Singer tries to make a literal sequel to

441
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 4: the first two movies. Right, so it's they're calling it.

442
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 4: They call it a spiritual sequel. But he tries literally

443
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 4: to try to make a new movie with Brandon Routh

444
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 4: as Superman. Right, and uh, it's not great. We got

445
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 4: speaking of canceled people, Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor Parker

446
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 4: Posey's in it. It's this is Superman, this is Superman returns. Okay,

447
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 4: then we have Man of Steel. Now listen, I know

448
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 4: what you're saying. Here a lot of films here, there's

449
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 4: a lot of movies. Indeed there are. This is our

450
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 4: heaviest lift, guys, but this is what we do.

451
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 5: Wow, I'm walking about this list.

452
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 4: The Fast and Furious is eleven movies. Yeah, this is

453
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 4: less just.

454
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 5: This is last.

455
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 4: We got Man of Steel, Zack Snyder. This is getting

456
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 4: We're getting serious. What if what if Superman was Jesus

457
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 4: but also nine to eleven but also Disclosure Day? If

458
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 4: Disclosure Day was good? He's an alien man?

459
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 5: What's what?

460
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 4: How is the world going to react to an alien

461
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 4: who can do anything and is invincible? Uh, it's actually

462
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 4: a pretty good movie. I really like this movie. And

463
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 4: this is where Zimmer comes into the into the fold.

464
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 4: Then and Superman is Superman is Henry Cavill. Yes, this

465
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 4: is Man of Steel, Man of Steel. Sorry, what did

466
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 4: I say?

467
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 5: You're right a soft spot for me? Filmed in my hometown. Oh,

468
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 5: my hometown is like literally a small bill.

469
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: So we could be like, look at this the spot

470
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: I went here and tails.

471
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, well that's a pro right there. Then we

472
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 4: have Batman in versus Superman, a goddamn mess of a movie,

473
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 4: and the whole plot hinges on literally the name of

474
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 4: one woman of two women. Basically, uh, it's pretty funny,

475
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 4: it's pretty bad. We got Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne.

476
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 5: And we still Cavil as Superman for this cattle.

477
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 4: As Superman for this trilogy. Then we then then we

478
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 4: get into the muck guys because we have Justice League. Yeah,

479
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 4: I was okay, so that's what Josh Whedon took over

480
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 4: from Zack Snyder. And then I hate to say it,

481
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 4: but we have to go back and also watch Zack

482
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 4: Snyder's verse twice hours for both movies, the four movies,

483
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 4: four hours for Zach and then yeah, because he has

484
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 4: to fix the he has to fix it. The fans

485
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 4: demanded it. We have to watch them all. Is it

486
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 4: the same episode or is a two separate episodes?

487
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Speaker 1: I don't know, God, so you just just to get

488
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: this right, we would have we would watch Justice League, Yes,

489
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Speaker 1: that's the Josh Whedon one, yes, and then we would

490
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: have to watch the Snyder cut, like you said, which

491
00:24:59,040 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: is the same movie.

492
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 4: Well, it's the same movie, but it's in basically four acts.

493
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 4: It's it's in four x three aspect ratio for some reason,

494
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 4: because it was why it's re released for home viewing only.

495
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 4: But they he didn't want to fill our TV screens

496
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 4: for some reason. But anyway, it's there. The people will

497
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 4: want it, right. And then after that we have James

498
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: Gunn Superman, which came out last year. This is a

499
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Speaker 4: completely new take on Superman. It's a fresh look at

500
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 4: the DC universe in general. I saw it and I

501
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 4: did like it as I remember. And then of course

502
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 4: we will have to watch Men of Tomorrow which is

503
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,959
Speaker 4: coming out next year, but we want to have to

504
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 4: deal with deal with that this summer. And who is

505
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 4: new Superman is David corn Sweat?

506
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Speaker 1: Okay, of course, familiar with your game.

507
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Speaker 4: He is a very good Say, yeah, he's basically he

508
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 4: was like Christopher Reeve was. He's basically unknown and then

509
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 4: like that, and then he came onto the scene and

510
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 4: he's very good. So the pros are obvious. We get

511
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 4: almost a fifty year history of movies, right right, Yes,

512
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 4: we get huge swings in tone. It's earnest, it's campy,

513
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 4: it's romantic, it's stupid, it's grim, it's operatic, it's corporate,

514
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 4: it's hopeful. We get all the different Superman's, we get Reeves,

515
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 4: we get Routh, We've we get Cavil, we get corn Sweat.

516
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 4: And by the way, we get all the same amount

517
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Speaker 4: of Clarks because those are different characters.

518
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 5: That's a great point.

519
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 4: We get different Lois Lanes, we get Lex Luthor's, we

520
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 4: get different dads, different costumes, a lot, you know, because

521
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 4: that's the main con of this. It's the same fucking

522
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 4: movie over and over again. Right you know, baby from

523
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 4: Crypton lands On Kansas. There's daily Plant. Oh, who's lowest,

524
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: that's lowess. There's Les. Oh look at the costume. It's

525
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 4: pretty cool. But hey man, that's the burden of being good. Okay, Anyway,

526
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 4: It's kind of like watching the NBA redraft the same

527
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 4: generational prospect every decade and somehow build a completely different

528
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 4: team around him every time. Sometimes you get a dynasty

529
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 4: and sometimes he gets Superman.

530
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 5: For that's it.

531
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Speaker 1: Not include I know a super Girl I did in

532
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 1: the eighties or the more recent one.

533
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Speaker 4: Well, I just watched it. It's an awful a and

534
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 4: I just did a show about it. But we can

535
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 4: if you really want to know, if you want to

536
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 4: do eleven movies, that's fine. I mean, if the people

537
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: want us to see us work a lot and have

538
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 4: a lot of episodes, this is the one to choose.

539
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 5: Yes, true heavy content plan.

540
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 4: It's it's heavy. It's heavy, but you know, it fills

541
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Speaker 4: the weeks that were.

542
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Speaker 3: Not definitely Yeah, good summer programming, thoughts on thoughts on

543
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: taxing Superman.

544
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you drop that right at the end. It

545
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: fills the weeks that also fills the nights. You know, yeah,

546
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: quite heavy, heavy lift, heavy lift to bed, heavy lift

547
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: to you know, that's very tastic.

548
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: But it's like we have to become Superman.

549
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, to watch Superman.

550
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: We said we said nine movies.

551
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 4: He's actually ten. If we're watching both versions of Zack

552
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: Snyder's Justice League and the Just Waite.

553
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: And otherwise otherwise. Yeah, the fifty year pitch, I mean

554
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: I admired that part. I was sort of into that.

555
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah you got me when you're right, same story told

556
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: over and over again. Don't love that part, but I'm

557
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: intrigued about the tonal changes. Yeah, and obviously the different

558
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: Superman themselves and like that. I from what I remember,

559
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: I haven't watched all of them, but like, yeah, they're

560
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: very different.

561
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: Totally, so that's fun to Yeah an alien, Yeah, I

562
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 4: think I think like some of them are good and

563
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: some of them are laughably bad, ye, which is good

564
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 4: for the show.

565
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 5: Yes, definitely know and they all have.

566
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 4: Things in them that we can that we can easily criticize.

567
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 4: There's lots to talk about, is what I'm saying.

568
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: And how much are you familiar with the comic book?

569
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: Not? Not a lot, time, not a time.

570
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, any THOUGHTSK on Superman.

571
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was a great pitch, and I

572
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: really I'm with you, Skeets. I love the idea of

573
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: like some of these are good and some of these

574
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: are so so bad, the comparisons between which Superman do

575
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: we like which lowis Lane do we like? It's very

576
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: James Bondie to me. One con I will say is

577
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: the two hundred and forty two minute run time are

578
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: of the Zack Snyder cut of Justice League. That's crazy.

579
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: Four hours? Yeah, four hour Superman. I will say, I've

580
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: watched it.

581
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 4: Obviously, I quite enjoyed it in the sense of comparing

582
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: it to the Joss Whedon cut, because there are different

583
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: needle drops, There are different just it's sort of an

584
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 4: exercise in looking at editing and seeing how things, the

585
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: tone of things can shift basically by just moving things

586
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 4: a couple of frames around in some cases. So I

587
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 4: find it interesting, but it might be a little bit

588
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 4: too much of a deep dive for us. And the

589
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 4: name of the show I would say is the super Friends.

590
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: You know.

591
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: Super Friends? Yeah, Yeah, that's that's good. Super Superman, Superman,

592
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: just go in.

593
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: I rewatched the original one when the new one was

594
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: coming out last year. Do you consider it a pro

595
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: or a con that the attire first movie Marlon Brando

596
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: calls krypton crypton crypt.

597
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 5: The whole time.

598
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: To say anything to them Kryptono pro actions exactly.

599
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 5: Call it all right, Look.

600
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: What'll be a great uh as Canadians, you guys would

601
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: be honoring Joe Schuster.

602
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: Well, and then like you said, the tidy your actuals,

603
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: your your hometown there and one of them. So yeah, okay,

604
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: some some some roots to it, yeah for sure. All right,

605
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: I have the final movie franchise here to pitch. I

606
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: have Transformers, and I have seven reasons why we should

607
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: do Transformers. First reason, alien robots. Let's not overthink it, guys. Okay,

608
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: The Transformers, from what I can remember, is about an ongoing,

609
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: ongoing war between two alien functions or factions of sentient

610
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: living robots that are from Here's how you say it,

611
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: Marlon Brando, Cybertron. We got the heroic Autobots that's Team

612
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: Optimist Prime, and we've got the villainous Decepticons that's led

613
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: by Megatron. They're just giant robots, alien robots. That's cool. Yeah,

614
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: And I remember the tagline for one of them. It's

615
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: like their war our world. I like that they're just

616
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: fighting on our planet. Man, what are you doing?

617
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 5: Okay?

618
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: That's number one? Number two Michael Bay goes boom, all right.

619
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Speaker 1: Cambridge English Dictionary defines a popcorn movie as a highly

620
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: popular production that lacks heavy dramatic weight, deep intellectual themes,

621
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Speaker 1: or artistic importance. It's designed purely for mass audience, entertainment

622
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: and escapism. Escapism. We can turn our brains off, guys.

623
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Speaker 1: These movies are stupid, right in the best way, the

624
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: popcorn movie. This is why they do big numbers too

625
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: at the box office. People just want to go and yeah,

626
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: just blow things.

627
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 5: Up, man, exactly. These movies are dumb.

628
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: Ye. But since like the first one has come out, uh, like,

629
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: computer graphics have changed so much that people are like

630
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: looking back fondly on like Michael.

631
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 5: Bay, nobody does it like, nobody does Bombastic like. And

632
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 5: that's right.

633
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: My third reason nostalgia. Now, this plays a part in

634
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the movie franchise we've been pitching. But

635
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: this whole franchise starts in nineteen eighty four, right with

636
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: the Transformers toy line. We're basically all eighties babies. I

637
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: mean it was you were g I Joe, teenage Miant

638
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: Ninja Turtles that was sort of at the later part

639
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: of the decade. Uh hey man, or Transformers, I mean

640
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: those for boys for kids, like that's what we usually

641
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: played with. My next door neighbor Dayne Kelly. He had

642
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: the Optimist Prime Action figure. Man, it was awesome. I

643
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: remember being pretty expensive at a time, and it was,

644
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, sort of a bigger one and then there

645
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: was always the smaller ones. But it was so cool.

646
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: The cartoon was aweso.

647
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: I like the cartoon.

648
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: I was.

649
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I was more Team Transformers

650
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: than I ever was Gi Joe. Between the two, I

651
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: was more the Robots than the Army Man.

652
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: I was neither. I was neither was a he Man.

653
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was definitely a little later. I was

654
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: I love the Turtles as well, but maybe we'll do

655
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: that franchise nostalgia now, JD. You're a little older, like,

656
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: so you were actually in the wheelhouse, I would say, for.

657
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 4: Well, I guess I was sort of starting to. I

658
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 4: think that's when the cartoon came out, and so I

659
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: was I was getting I was thirteen. Then you're not

660
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: not super into it. I did get Transformers for the kids.

661
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: My kids, very very frustrating toy because I can never

662
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 4: put them back to the shoe and you end up

663
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 4: breaking them basically. Yeah, yeah, they're very hard to do.

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Speaker 4: But you know that was my clumsy old fingers. I

665
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Speaker 4: guess yeah.

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Speaker 1: My fourth reason for Transformers the perfect number of films

667
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Speaker 1: because it sets up perfectly me going last five movies

668
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: in a franchise. I gotta be honest, not enough, not enough,

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00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: ten l ten, too many, too many? Seven live action

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00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: movies in Transformers. That's the sweet spot.

671
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 4: Is that including Bumblebee.

672
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: Yes, it's not including twenty twenty fours Transformers one that

673
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: would get us to eight. That's an animated movie. So

674
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: it's up to us whether we would include it. Probably not,

675
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: but yes, Bumblebee included. We're dropping one every week. That's

676
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: taking up August in September right there, but we're right

677
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: back into October. We're doing NBA stuff again. So I'm

678
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: telling you, I think sevens right, number. We got great

679
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: names for these, Revenge of the Fallen, Dark of the Moon.

680
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: These are just cool, cool, So that's point number four.

681
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: Number five sort of alluded to this already. They're just craptastic.

682
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: You know, they're crap, they're also fantastic from what I

683
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: remember for these are absolute dog shit. Them are basically garbage.

684
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: The other ones are okay, but it's way more fun

685
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: to clown on crappy movies I think when we get

686
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: to these series. Despite its critical reception, the Transformers film

687
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: series has generally been successful though at the box office,

688
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: two of these things grossed over one billion dollars. Wild

689
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: Roger Ebert he liked the original one. He said it's

690
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: goofy fun with a lot of stuff that blows up

691
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: real good. But he says it has the grace not

692
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: only to realize how preposterous it is, but to make

693
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: it into an asset. So even he's like, yeah, it

694
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: knows it's dumb, but it's a fun dumb and a

695
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: goofy dumb. So I think that's a good selling point.

696
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: Final two thoughts, The story continues sort of what you

697
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: were saying with yours tasks. Transformers eight is officially confirmed

698
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: by Paramount Pictures. They got a good writer apparently on

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00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: board too, Jesse Fuchs.

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Speaker 5: Dukes Dog, Yeah, Fukes Dog.

701
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: I think I think he did one.

702
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: Woman on camera at sports Net. Same guy.

703
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: But the upcoming film is set to follow the events

704
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: of Transformers Rise of the Beast the last one, and

705
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: will be part of a new trilogy. Apparently that might

706
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: be a G I. Joe crossover. Finally, yeah, I know,

707
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: I was like it's intriguing. Okay. But my final and

708
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: this is my real selling point on why we should

709
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Speaker 1: do it evolution. Hear me out here. Our first movie series,

710
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: Fast and Furious, it was all about yes, family, but

711
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: it was also about cars and vehicles. Okay, hold that thought.

712
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: Our second movie series, Jurassic Park, it was all about dinosaurs,

713
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: giant beasts. It only makes sense that our third series

714
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 1: would incorporate the best of both worlds. Vehicles that turn

715
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: into giant beasts. Hell, there's there's even so there's actual

716
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: robotic dinosaurs. But uh yeah, we take the we take

717
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: the vehicles and the giant beasts. We put them together,

718
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: and that's how we get Transformers simple. So that's why

719
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: I think we should do this dumb serious.

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00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: One quick correction, it's Jason Fuchs. I think you said.

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00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: I said Jesse, Yes, you must be influenced by that broadcast.

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Speaker 1: Jason Fuchs, thank you, Okay, Okay, yeah, we'll see what

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00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: people say. How many of you seen of these.

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00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: Good questions being parts of two? I think Mark he's

725
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: in the one.

726
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: No, that's the couple one for sure, A couple of

727
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 4: Megan Fox obviously are and one of.

728
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 5: Josh.

729
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: What's his name, Josh. I think, okay, there's some names,

730
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: but the but you know, the the robots are the

731
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: real star Prime Man.

732
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to see these names again. Optimist, Prime, Bumblebee, Jazz, Iron, Hide,

733
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: Ratchet like this guy.

734
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's about the costume costumes are fun. Have

735
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: you ever seen somebody like a busker on the street

736
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: they put on the you know, like the cardboard car

737
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: and they're able to get into car mode.

738
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: And there are ones like on like yeah, boardwalks or

739
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: whatever Vegas that like they're just optimist, straight up optimist

740
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: Prime or Bumblebee. They don't think they transform. I't wicked.

741
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: Huge looking must be stilts in those things or something.

742
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: I just remember watching some of these movies in theaters going,

743
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: I can't tell what's going on.

744
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 4: It's such a one.

745
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: The scale is too it's so loud. Can we turn

746
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: it down a little bit crazy loud? These are not

747
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: very good. Bumblebee was good. I watched bumb Be, that

748
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 1: one that one had heart.

749
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 4: Okay, I've heard it's good. That was that Haley stein

750
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: Field in that.

751
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: Maybe it's definitely not Mike Feld. It's not Michael Bay.

752
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, so I he switched it

753
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: up because.

754
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 5: John, isn't it I seen?

755
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: Is it?

756
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: What in the world the guy from Send Help Haley

757
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 3: Steinfeld like you said, John Cena, Angela Bassett just in

758
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: th row Like, that's a great cask bottle.

759
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: So there you go, Transformers. Any any other thoughts or questions?

760
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I hate this franchise. I walked out of

761
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 4: the first one.

762
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 5: The first one. That one was considered good.

763
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 4: I know, I know that was when it just as

764
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: you say, it was loud and it was just stupid,

765
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 4: and Shiah was an idiot.

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00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 5: And Sam what's his name, Sam Wicked? It's something like that.

767
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 4: I think you're right.

768
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: The all spark it's in his glasses is what I remember.

769
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: And then shows up And because my grandfather was.

770
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: An explorer in the Arctic, I remember and uh, that's

771
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: where Megatron Megatron like is crashed on Earth. I think yes,

772
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: And but he's frozen or something, right, and that's something

773
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: like that. The all spark gets put in his glasses

774
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: and then those glasses gets passed down to Sam and

775
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: they're chasing.

776
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: Glass.

777
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 5: I think that is historical.

778
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: You just got some votes for this series, JD by

779
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: saying you hate it.

780
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 4: You could crap all this, I know, but there's a

781
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 4: certain point where it's just like it's like yeah, because

782
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: the the argument is like I will try to say, well,

783
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 4: this was dumb because it wasn't motivated by this or that,

784
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: and the the the argument back is it's a Transformers movie.

785
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, like take it easy, dad, Yeah.

786
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

787
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: So it's kind of whatever. Maybe I'll get into it maybe, Yeah.

788
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: I think I think tasks with Pirates of the Caribbean

789
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: and Mind Transformers, they're like, yeah, they're so dumb. They're

790
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: just the popcorn movies, like we said, like they're just

791
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: like to dissect them.

792
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 5: I don't know.

793
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: Maybe it is more difficult because you're like, well it's

794
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be silly, stupid and loud and obnoxious, like

795
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: what more do you want? Or is yours? And maybe

796
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: has more depth Superman, But I don't know, maybe.

797
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 5: Depth I don't know, you know what I mean.

798
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: So are they are any of them connected?

799
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: I think they are quite a bit. Yeah.

800
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

801
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: I think Bumblebee is like, uh, I feel like that

802
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: one's like set in the eighties or something, So maybe

803
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: that one's because they're I have read things about you

804
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: can watch them in chronological timeline order, so it'd be

805
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: bouncing all around. We would watch them in the release order.

806
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, and there are beasts come into it too, right.

807
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I remember seeing like a like

808
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: a gorilla. There's like a giant gorilla looking.

809
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's gotta be the rise of the beasts.

810
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I've never seen these guys like beastly.

811
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, how does that happen when all falls in a

812
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: zoo or something?

813
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably a gorilla steps on Grandpa's glasses.

814
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: We can find out together with Transformers. All right, those

815
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: are our four movie franchises. Everybody did a great job

816
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: pitching their case, so we will leave it now up

817
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: to the people. Uh be interesting to see why people

818
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: make their decisions here, so commental way too.

819
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll make this available for everybody to vote on

820
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: and let us know why you're putting in these votes.

821
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: That's what I will have to It'll be interesting to see, like,

822
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: was it because somebody because of their pitch or you

823
00:43:54,280 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: want to see us punished? You like the movies? Yeah, volume, yeah, yeah, Look,

824
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: it's your vote, your say, so get your votes in.

825
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: Hit the substack link in the show Notes vote on

826
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: the movie franchise you want no dunks to tackle for

827
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: the summer of twenty twenty six, and we'll let this

828
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: one simmer for a little bit. We'll try and leave

829
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: this pull up for at least a week or so

830
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: and let you really think it over. Maybe you have

831
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: time to watch all the movies and go, oh, I'd

832
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: love to hear them talk about this one.

833
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: So all right, mine was five years, was five years,

834
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: was seven, eleven.

835
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Speaker 4: Ten, ten, ten.

836
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: We're not doing Supergirl, all right? Yeah?

837
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 4: I think it's ten.

838
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 5: Okay, Yes, could somebody watch twenty seven movies in a week?

839
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Speaker 5: It's possible, Yeah, it's possible. Before voting on this.

840
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: I will say a con. I was looking at Transformers.

841
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 5: They're lengthy, they're chunky.

842
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of like two twenties, two thirties.

843
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: You're like, good, that's too long, man, But some of

844
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: them are a little shorter.

845
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: Anyway.

846
00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you tell us, get your votes in and uh,

847
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: we will decide a little bit later and then we'll

848
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: start watching these movies and reviewing them. So hit the

849
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: substack link in the show notes shows next week. Until then,

850
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: Clipper Bros.

851
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

852
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 5: Love you guys awesome.

853
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember you put that vote

854
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: in on substack, which is free.

855
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah we'll open it up.

856
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, just you know, just.

857
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: Become a subscriber to the new Dunk substack. People out

858
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Speaker 1: and get your votes in. Brace the weekend, people,