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Speaker 1: There's drama in Cincinnati. Joe Barrow says he wants the
Speaker 1: team to pay Star Pass Russia Trey Hendrickson. He says
Speaker 1: the team not paying Hendrickson is a significant distraction. Let's
Speaker 1: take a listen to what Joe had to.
Speaker 2: Say, jamarant having your great to deals.
Speaker 3: Is Trey not being here or his deal not done?
Speaker 1: Is that a distraction? Of course?
Speaker 3: Course last year we had two, this year we have one,
Speaker 3: so we do have less.
Speaker 4: You'd love to have none, but you know that's life
Speaker 4: in the NFL World Sport Tray.
Speaker 1: And would love for him to be back.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, Yes, sir, it's your take.
Speaker 3: Well listen, listen.
Speaker 1: I love Joe.
Speaker 3: Joe also had to understand this his business. It's his business,
Speaker 3: and the Browns have one way of doing things. They've
Speaker 3: done things one way. And despite what he may say,
Speaker 3: despite his concerns about wanting Tree to be paid, or
Speaker 3: him or being a distraction with him not getting paid.
Speaker 3: This is the way they conduct business. All teams conduct
Speaker 3: business in the same manner. They're not going to be
Speaker 3: swayed or forced or bullied into paying the individual based
Speaker 3: on how we as players, whether we deform or fans
Speaker 3: see fit. They're going to do things their way. They paid,
Speaker 3: They paid Joe Burrow, they paid Jamar Chase, they they
Speaker 3: paid t Higgins. I don't know. I don't have the
Speaker 3: numbers in front of me. I don't know how much
Speaker 3: is left, uh in caloriees, salary cap space.
Speaker 2: But not enough to pay trade what he wants.
Speaker 3: Would not actually not enough to pay him what he wants.
Speaker 3: But I'm assuming maybe they're trying to find some middle ground.
Speaker 3: But from what I've heard that there are no talks
Speaker 3: going on at all, So I do trade. Trey is
Speaker 3: standing in his ground, and he's not in a position
Speaker 3: despite being the sack leader last year and the sack
Speaker 3: leader before that the year before that. Like he was
Speaker 3: a sack leader, but what was our defense rank? Can
Speaker 3: someone look that? Can't ass look that up right now?
Speaker 3: I mean, he just was really quick, just curious.
Speaker 1: Without trade, you'd have been you'd have been seventeenth in college,
Speaker 1: so you had trade for you at the bottom at
Speaker 1: the NFL.
Speaker 3: Okay, so they look at all that, they look at it. Listen,
Speaker 3: I wanted to get paid. I wanted to get paid
Speaker 3: for based on what he's done, you know, to date.
Speaker 3: But they look at it completely different than the way
Speaker 3: we look at it as fans, and obviously me. Listen,
Speaker 3: I love my banngals and I love I would love
Speaker 3: for trade to get bade. But uh, it's a tough
Speaker 3: spot that we're in. I'm not sure what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I think at some point, if things don't get worked out,
Speaker 3: I'm assuming maybe a trade of some sort might happen
Speaker 3: at the least opportune time, when we least expected.
Speaker 1: I look at it like this, oh Joe, considering he's
Speaker 1: the best defensive player, and when you look at that
Speaker 1: defensive line, who else? Most teams have two guys, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, you have Micah and then you have another guy.
Speaker 1: Or you look at let's just say, for the sake
Speaker 1: of Ark, you look at the Eagles, they have multiple guys.
Speaker 1: You look at Kansas City they have Chris Chris Jones
Speaker 1: and have Coloftus. You know, they have multiple guys most teams,
Speaker 1: although they're not on the same level, but they have.
Speaker 1: You look at a hot Smith and you look at Watt,
Speaker 1: so most guys have somebody.
Speaker 2: To play off of. It's him. Yeah, he let the
Speaker 2: league in sacks, but really no one else besides.
Speaker 3: You know, and brother Sam Huppert just retired.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: Yes, hurt most of the Yeah, yeah, he was hurt.
Speaker 3: And also when I think about it, I look at
Speaker 3: the AFC North right from a standpoint and needing defensive players.
Speaker 3: It's bad enough we're already bad on defense. Then let's
Speaker 3: not make it worse, at.
Speaker 2: Least in the city Buffalo, Baltimore.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, my goodness, like we we need
Speaker 3: trade in the in the the dearest dearest way possible
Speaker 3: to try to do what we can defensively. So we
Speaker 3: can we can. We can start a little better this season.
Speaker 3: You know, I know we always talk about the offense.
Speaker 3: You know, they always start slow, always out out the gate,
Speaker 3: you know, being zero and to or one in one whatever.
Speaker 1: We got to stop somebody though, Yeah, we gotta be
Speaker 1: okay you said, I'm saying, but here's the thing. They
Speaker 1: have one bad too bad possessions. Their defense can't stop anybody. Now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you fourteen points down. Hey, you
Speaker 1: gotta lead. Okay, let's just say, for the sake of Barbie,
Speaker 1: you have a And we saw this against Baltimore.
Speaker 2: They have two bad possessions. Now Baltimore has the leader.
Speaker 1: The lead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what how far away are we from from
Speaker 3: having a decent defense? Just curious you from your listen,
Speaker 3: you know this is this is.
Speaker 2: And y'all just cut Pratt. Remember y'all released Pratt?
Speaker 3: Yes, so wall hold on Pratt with prattp Prapp with
Speaker 3: a little back was the mic linebacker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he led your team in tackles.
Speaker 3: He did so.
Speaker 1: Logan Wilson plays. They drafted somebody. They drafted somebody in
Speaker 1: the second round out of South Carolina.
Speaker 2: I was reading yesterday night.
Speaker 3: They must he must be played.
Speaker 2: They see really high on him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna be gonna plug and play then, huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to remember. Pratt was like, hey, he
Speaker 1: wanted a contract extension. He wanted to be you know,
Speaker 1: want to bump and pay. They're like, noah, bro, we
Speaker 1: can't bump you and pay. I was reading, now, I
Speaker 1: don't know you know, maybe somebody just throwing out numbers.
Speaker 1: I think Trey's supposed to make what fifteen, sixteen, seventeen million.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying to get him to twenty eight.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's looking at list anything that doesn't
Speaker 1: start with a three. No, I'm not now I honestly,
Speaker 1: because you see, you see he's like, hold on, one
Speaker 1: guy making fifty five, another guy making forty, another guy
Speaker 1: making thirty, and then y'all want me to come in
Speaker 1: at twenty eight, And he sees Miles Garrett. He knows
Speaker 1: Michael is about to get something that starts with a four.
Speaker 1: Y'all want me to start with a two? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just don't see that.
Speaker 2: Not. Let's be fair.
Speaker 3: If he wants to get what he wants, he's not
Speaker 3: gonna be able to get it because everything you just
Speaker 3: ran off, we just pakee making fifty five, then there's
Speaker 3: no room for you to make do you tall? Do
Speaker 3: you take a discount? Do you take a discount?
Speaker 1: And no, the question is better question does he miss
Speaker 1: the first eight games and then come back to the
Speaker 1: last eight games to make sure he gets a credited season,
Speaker 1: or does because that's what I would do, because if
Speaker 1: you don't come back, they still have your rights. So
Speaker 1: I would you know it. That depends on how serious
Speaker 1: he is about his money.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's serious. He's serious, and this this is the
Speaker 3: thing that you can do when they know you the game,
Speaker 3: when they know you love the game, and they know
Speaker 3: you can't stay away from the game. There was want
Speaker 3: to be team first team that teams and team oriented
Speaker 3: and be the but when it comes time to play,
Speaker 3: this is what this is what happens. Yeah, let's talk
Speaker 3: about the Bengals in general. I'm talking about in general.
Speaker 3: They will use your love for the game against you
Speaker 3: because the bus inside of things will sneak upon you
Speaker 3: and bite your nass. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think a guy that Sean Gilbert might
Speaker 1: be the only guy that I can remember that missed
Speaker 1: the whole season and then he ended up turning around
Speaker 1: and getting paid. I think he went to Carolina. I
Speaker 1: think it's with Washington and he ended up going to Carolina.
Speaker 1: It might be vice versa, but that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is to say what I would do.
Speaker 1: It's easy to say what because you're not in that situation. Me.
Speaker 2: I ain't missing no time.
Speaker 1: I understood that that was time I wasn't gonna be
Speaker 1: able to get back. And like you said, Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: I think the thing is, they know the guys that really.
Speaker 2: Everybody don't love the game like we do. Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, so they're gonna hard time up. Well, it's
Speaker 1: all we got knowing. Damn well, we might miss a game,
Speaker 1: but we ain't missing no half of those seasons, entire season.
Speaker 2: We love it too much. Listen.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing about it is, I love the game,
Speaker 3: but I think during my time I was in fortunate situations.
Speaker 3: I think where they came to me early twice, right
Speaker 3: in the early where I didn't have to deal with
Speaker 3: that type of situation. It just to me, it's almost
Speaker 3: it's almost a slapping the face a little bit when
Speaker 3: you think about it. Yeah, almost a slapping the face.
Speaker 3: And we take it personally as players, and I know
Speaker 3: they do when situations like this arise. When you understand
Speaker 3: what your value is, you understand what the market is,
Speaker 3: and then you have a team that's hesitant in giving
Speaker 3: you said market value. Listen, one thing about it. I
Speaker 3: don't care how many how many players you got got paid.
Speaker 3: There's always a way to make it happen depending on
Speaker 3: who the players. You do understand that, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, But what I don't get from the Bengals, Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: if you had this problem last year and you didn't
Speaker 1: resolve it and during the season or after the season,
Speaker 1: what makes you thought the the problem is going to
Speaker 1: go away. It's like if you have a disease and
Speaker 1: don't talk about it, just because you don't talk about it,
Speaker 1: you better go get it, you better treat it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because talking about it, but because not talking about a problem.
Speaker 2: Like it's like two people argue, oh Joe, and you
Speaker 2: go to bed.
Speaker 1: That issue is not gonna be resolved in the morning
Speaker 1: because you didn't talk about it that night. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, you're gonna give people an opportunity to
Speaker 1: build up. They're like this bofo playing with me. He
Speaker 1: couldn't address me. They know, so you led over the steaming.
Speaker 1: She led over the steaming. You know, you get out
Speaker 1: of bed in the morning, you stepping on lips because
Speaker 1: the lip poked out to the flow. His lips poked
Speaker 1: out to the flow. So I don't understand how the
Speaker 1: Bengals thought this situation. And he had another seventeen and
Speaker 1: a half sex season and he led the NFL in
Speaker 1: sacks and somehow you thought he was nobody.
Speaker 2: Well, we got a good chance to go.
Speaker 1: You had a good chance to go to the super
Speaker 1: Bowl last year or the playoffs last year, and it
Speaker 1: didn't happen.
Speaker 2: Guys are not you know.
Speaker 1: Teams always want you to think, oh, take big picture. No,
Speaker 1: the big picture is me and my family, and that's
Speaker 1: the big picture I'm thinking about. I don't know what y'all, Peyton,
Speaker 1: because Ojo what they what they tell you, Ojoe when
Speaker 1: they release players? You here and I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about this a little later. Joah here yea and
Speaker 1: Google Kiff said what he's said. They're always thinking about
Speaker 1: what is the best interest of the team.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is the best interest of the business?
Speaker 1: Okay? Players are businesses, Yes, what isn't the best interest
Speaker 1: of Trey Hendrickson? Not playing is in the best interest
Speaker 1: to Trey Henderson being all unest Now, I'm not telling
Speaker 1: the guy what he should or what he shouldn't do,
Speaker 1: but this is what we do know. He take his
Speaker 1: ass out there on that field, and he gets anything
Speaker 1: that happens, Lord forbid, it does not.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, he ain't getting no pay day.
Speaker 1: You know that.
Speaker 3: I know that, Yes, sir, Yeah, listen. I think is
Speaker 3: tough one tough spot. The Bengals organization is in a
Speaker 3: tough spot. Trey Hendrickson is in a tough spot. Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow saying that it's a distraction to those that are
Speaker 3: in an organization, those that are that are on the team,
Speaker 3: those that are at mini camp right now. I think
Speaker 3: for the fans it's a distraction and it's just like
Speaker 3: overwhelming and they're like, God, damn, here we go again.
Speaker 3: But again fans. As players, you have to be able
Speaker 3: to separate the personal side of being a football player
Speaker 3: in the business side. I think if you can, you
Speaker 3: can compartmentalize and be able to separate the two and
Speaker 3: understand that it is business first. It's not personal. It's
Speaker 3: nothing against you as a player, but this is the
Speaker 3: way they conduct themselves, not just with the Bengals, but
Speaker 3: with every team in general. I think you'll be all right.
Speaker 3: I want Tray to get his money though, you know,
Speaker 3: even if it's not with us, I would love to
Speaker 3: see him back with the Bengals, but I would also
Speaker 3: love to see him get what deserves somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Because I think the thing is, Oh Joe. What happens
Speaker 1: is that Joe would like to talk about what a
Speaker 1: great deal practice they're had, Yes, sir, but the media
Speaker 1: is asking him about Trade's contract. They're asking him about
Speaker 1: the rookies contract, who we're going to talk about in
Speaker 1: just a second. So he's like, bro, I'm trying to say, hey,
Speaker 1: T and I had a great comment, had a great
Speaker 1: work today. We got some great work to done today.
Speaker 1: We got better today. But you're asking me about a
Speaker 1: player that's not here. I don't know what you want
Speaker 1: me to say. Joe is being the leader that he is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we love to have Trade, and I think he's done
Speaker 1: enough to he's earned, not deserve, he's.
Speaker 2: Earned a raise and pay because guess what.
Speaker 1: Let's just say, for the sake of argument, Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: instead of having seventeen and a half sacks, he had
Speaker 1: five and a half sacks. Do you think they would
Speaker 1: keep him on the contract that he has now? Absolutely not,
Speaker 1: I answer it for you know they wouldn't. So now
Speaker 1: he outperformed the contract, you don't want to reward him,
Speaker 1: but if he underperformed, you will punish him. Yes, and
Speaker 1: that's the way it is, and hopefully fans like see
Speaker 1: that and I understand. Look, I understand you weren't running
Speaker 1: a business, but guys normally played better guy's team after
Speaker 1: being in you know, a business you're working, perform better
Speaker 1: when they're compensated.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh and you're happy, yes, which is which is
Speaker 3: one of the reasons. Why do you think they always
Speaker 3: go ahead and pay the quarterback. Yes, they always paid
Speaker 3: the quarterback. You get your quarterback out the way, so
Speaker 3: he had nothing to worry about. He's in the right
Speaker 3: state of mind and you can focus on the job
Speaker 3: at hand, no distractions and again, not being able to
Speaker 3: get your money after putting in all the work, you know,
Speaker 3: the sacrifice, the sweat, the injuries.
Speaker 1: He led. I mean there, I mean he led the
Speaker 1: entire league in sacks. He did that, Yeah he I
Speaker 1: mean he had seventeen and a half. He was I mean,
Speaker 1: he was in the running for defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: And he's probably thinking to himself, what the hell do
Speaker 1: I have to do to get rewarded for my hard work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy, it's unfortunate. And listen, this is this
Speaker 3: happens all the time. Yeah sure, Well, it happens all
Speaker 3: the time, Ye happens. It's his turn, his turn.
Speaker 1: Bengals rookie Shamar Stewart is still waiting to take his
Speaker 1: first practice rep in the NFL. He also had some
Speaker 1: words for the Bengals today in comparing his situation with trades.
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
Speaker 4: Like some people say, we all greed, trade will be right, right,
Speaker 4: but technically still one percent wrong for being under contract.
Speaker 4: So and in my case, I'm one hundred percent right,
Speaker 4: so it should be a no brainer. And in trades case,
Speaker 4: I think it should be a no brainer too. I mean,
Speaker 4: he led seventeen and a half second two for two years
Speaker 4: back the back.
Speaker 2: If I was the gym or I was the owner,
Speaker 2: take all my money.
Speaker 3: But I guess they don't offer it like that, but
Speaker 3: you know they do not. Hey, listen, hey, it's easy
Speaker 3: to say take all my money when you not the gym,
Speaker 3: and oh yes, money don't easy to say that, but listen,
Speaker 3: you learn quick. You learn, you learn quick, and you
Speaker 3: learn fast. Rookie will understand that this is a business
Speaker 3: and it's running a little different. It's running little different.
Speaker 3: Now he's had seventeen and a half sex back to
Speaker 3: back seasons, right, and then they're they're hesitating, they're hesitant
Speaker 3: on paying them. So in situations like this, this will
Speaker 3: tell you how they really feel about you. Yes, depending
Speaker 3: on the player is, depending on who the player is
Speaker 3: and how much they value you and what you bring
Speaker 3: to the table. Oh man, they're not even playing when
Speaker 3: it's time to get paid. I don't care who I
Speaker 3: don't care who you are.
Speaker 1: Let's say this is what Mike Florio for Pro Football
Speaker 1: Focus right this Football Talk PFT. He said, the Bengals
Speaker 1: have decided to wedge a new clause into Stuart's deal.
Speaker 1: The clause would turn a default in any given year
Speaker 1: into a void of all remaining guarantees, and prior Bengals
Speaker 1: contracts avoid wiped out only the guarantees for the year
Speaker 1: in which the default occurred. Stuart refuses to be the
Speaker 1: be guinea pig for the new term, and the Bengals
Speaker 1: refused to blink. As a result, Stuart will be less
Speaker 1: prepared for training camp than he would have been.
Speaker 2: So in other word, a lot of times they put
Speaker 2: a clause in there.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, it's said if you do something wrong, the
Speaker 1: money you were supposed to get in that year, right
Speaker 1: is wiped away. Now they put the new clause in
Speaker 1: there say if you do something wrong, any guaranteed that
Speaker 1: you're supposed to get in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven,
Speaker 1: twenty eight. That's gone too. Oh no, hell no.
Speaker 3: I understand. To me, honestly, I don't. I don't like
Speaker 3: the verbiage. But again I would. I would have it
Speaker 3: on a year to year basis and this year if
Speaker 3: you mess up, you know, and there was contact der
Speaker 3: MISSISSI the team or sess that is that serious where
Speaker 3: we need to recoup some of that money back. That's
Speaker 3: guaranteed I see fit to do so. But yes, messing
Speaker 3: up on the board the board pop absolutely not hell
Speaker 3: and not over what. But man, that made me curse.
Speaker 3: Don't made me curse that I just got seen the
Speaker 3: other day.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 3: Don't do that. But I know they're trying to set
Speaker 3: a president. I'm not sure what president that not with
Speaker 3: me not listen outside of don't get in any trouble period.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he has a pass, if he
Speaker 3: has the past history of doing things wrong, I don't
Speaker 3: know for them to actually want to put that clause
Speaker 3: in his contract all of a sudden, out the blue
Speaker 3: set a president with this individual. I'm not sure what
Speaker 3: his path looks like, that's anything I could think of,
Speaker 3: and why they want to do something.
Speaker 1: Like that, and no, but it seems to be like
Speaker 1: this is something that they're trying to do moving forward
Speaker 1: to everybody. Yes, only because the clause would the default
Speaker 1: in any given year into a void of all remaining
Speaker 1: guaranteed and prior being contracts, a void wiped out only
Speaker 1: guaranteed for which the year the default a courage. So
Speaker 1: if he did something in twenty five, okay, we wipe
Speaker 1: out the guarantees in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven,
Speaker 1: twenty eight is protected. Now they're saying, if you default
Speaker 1: in twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight get
Speaker 1: wiped away. Oh hell no, oh Joe, that's the whole
Speaker 1: purpose of guaranteed, if to be able to get to guarantee. Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a question. Are there any other NFL
Speaker 3: teams that practice the same clause in their contracts?
Speaker 1: Or we wouldn't We wouldn't know that. Uh, well, there's
Speaker 1: some some you have a contract. Let's just say for
Speaker 1: the sake of argument, you and the NFL you're a
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Or it's like coaches, like a college, like
Speaker 1: an NFL coach, I give you you say, I got
Speaker 1: three year left on my deal at twelve million dollars
Speaker 1: a year, Yes, sir, I get a new job whatever.
Speaker 1: So now it offsets. So what to happen is offset language.
Speaker 1: So if I get a job from another team, howver
Speaker 1: much that team plays, that I have to pay the
Speaker 1: remaining So if I get a deal for nine million
Speaker 1: over there, I only have to pay three million over
Speaker 1: here where I left got left at. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, right some people right here, there is no
Speaker 1: offset language. Jimbo Fisher, Jimbo Fisher got released, he gives
Speaker 1: all eighty of that remaining money.
Speaker 3: It was eighty two to be exact, Okay, I remember that.
Speaker 1: So sometimes they try to put offset language where you
Speaker 1: can't double dep. Players can't double dep. So if you
Speaker 1: get released and you go sign with another team, they
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with you. I want the
Speaker 1: money that you owe me, and I'm gonna get the
Speaker 1: money they gonna give me that. Don't you worry about
Speaker 1: what I got. You just gonna make sure that a
Speaker 1: just go ahead and make sure you keep your chicks coming.
Speaker 1: I will be hey, you got you got the wide number,
Speaker 1: go and put it in there, direct the posit. So
Speaker 1: that's what and some teams do. Some teams will have
Speaker 1: offset language. If you get another job, even in TV,
Speaker 1: you get released by one network, you go somewhere else.
Speaker 1: They just pay the difference, So you got X whatever
Speaker 1: the case may be. So if you get if you
Speaker 1: get say five million over here, you only get two
Speaker 1: and a half over there.
Speaker 2: You gonna get two and a half.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey man, this is this is as much as
Speaker 3: people love the beautiful game, they I don't think they
Speaker 3: understand the nasty business side of it. No, they don't
Speaker 3: nasty business side of it. It can get other, It
Speaker 3: can get very ugly. And the fact there is a
Speaker 3: reason why when it comes to contracts and negotiations or
Speaker 3: or a situations like this is the reason why the
Speaker 3: agents go in there are not the players. Because if
Speaker 3: the players go in those rooms and you hear how
Speaker 3: owners really feel about you and what they really want
Speaker 3: to do, and the language they want to put in
Speaker 3: the fire, the five print language that they want to
Speaker 3: put in contracts to protect themselves from having to pay
Speaker 3: you long term if you mess up. They oh listen,
Speaker 3: it was it was some stuff. I don't want to
Speaker 3: bring up the past, but it was some stuff in
Speaker 3: in Tea's contract and in Chase's contract that was that
Speaker 3: wasn't suitable.
Speaker 2: It wasn't Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't right. So if they were, if
Speaker 3: they if they were doing it to Tea and Chase,
Speaker 3: you know who the meeting potatoes that that offense outside
Speaker 3: of Joe, I know they're gonna do it the trade
Speaker 3: and they definitely gonna do it to the rookie.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: But it's it's it's business man, it's it's business.
Speaker 1: Never personally like, hey, you don't gonna do a I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call it Joe Burrow agent. Hey, bro, y'all got
Speaker 1: this language in your contract. They do it all the time.
Speaker 1: They do it all the time. Nah, bro, you're not finna.
Speaker 1: I'm not finna. Be no guinea pig, You're not finnah
Speaker 1: sit no press. They were me and then everybody that
Speaker 1: comes after me, they looking at me crazy because I
Speaker 1: allowed it to happen, become out of the highest draft
Speaker 1: pick the year that they started this foolishness, and I
Speaker 1: agree to it.
Speaker 3: Now, how can this go though? What if he refuses
Speaker 3: to play? What if he refuses to sign the contract
Speaker 3: unless they remove that language?
Speaker 1: What happens? That's it. They either have to remove the
Speaker 1: language or he has to say that I'm not playing.
Speaker 3: Who that can get ugly?
Speaker 2: Humm? I hope he did. I hope he got some
Speaker 2: good nil money.
Speaker 1: He hadn't spent too much, He hadn't promised his mom
Speaker 1: or dad or whomever house.
Speaker 3: Yet, right, damn? And don't I don't like that for him?
Speaker 1: I don't neither. Aaron Rodgers was the latest veteran quarterback
Speaker 1: to weigh in on mentoring the next generation. In his case,
Speaker 1: he was asked about mentoring Will Howard. He responded, Will's
Speaker 1: a good kid. We got to talk a little bit.
Speaker 1: I thought he did a really I thought he did
Speaker 1: really well today. He seems pretty bright going through the progressions.
Speaker 1: Really well. I'm gonna be with him every single day,
Speaker 1: every single meeting. Found myself see next to him today
Speaker 1: in the offensive meeting, whether or not it's stick right
Speaker 1: next to Will Howard. So I'm gonna help him out
Speaker 1: as much as I can, okay, o Joe, Oh yo,
Speaker 1: you know what I gonna lie to, Yo Joe. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you it's true short, Oh Joe, I got
Speaker 1: middled in college with math. Ain't none of that is stick.
Speaker 1: I told you once we got past timetables, me and
Speaker 1: math really didn't get along, O Joe, Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: If I couldn't do this like this here, yeah, or
Speaker 2: write it down a little scratch paper, yes, final sieck one,
Speaker 2: Me and.
Speaker 1: Math with it.
Speaker 2: Hey, you start getting the fractions and pies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only one pie. I know that's apple pie,
Speaker 3: but that's it. But if he can pie and.
Speaker 1: Then start talking about if a train left at four
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning and train D LEFTIDT six o'clock
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, at what point were there?
Speaker 3: Hold hold on, hold on if Johnny, if Johnny had
Speaker 3: five apples he gave Amy three. Yeah, but Adam brought
Speaker 3: back sixty. Man, If you don't, I'm like, who hold
Speaker 3: on my face?
Speaker 2: Two trains.
Speaker 1: One leaves at four point thirty am, the other leads
Speaker 1: at six pm at one.
Speaker 2: Time, but I don't how fast are they going? I
Speaker 2: don't know what.
Speaker 1: Bet I see, O Joe, I don't know why they
Speaker 1: just could do, why they could do twelve times twelve,
Speaker 1: why they could do sixty forty nine from sixty is
Speaker 1: how But they start doing all the other stuff out
Speaker 1: there they go with me, so.
Speaker 2: Be a math, Me and math We were not good
Speaker 2: and uh, the bath my favorite thing?
Speaker 3: Oh sure? Hey, yeah, hey whatever, Hey was funny black.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But see when it come to percentage. Okay, you
Speaker 1: got this much and you won't get a percentage? Bro?
Speaker 2: How much is that? How much you want? How about
Speaker 2: you won't bad?
Speaker 1: You start getting Hey, let's do a round number, because
Speaker 1: we start getting seven hundred and seventy six dollars and
Speaker 1: I'm getting you getting three and a half percent of that? Fine,
Speaker 1: come on, bro, Hey, I got I got, I got
Speaker 1: thirty five dollars for you? Okay you thirty five dollars?
Speaker 3: Do you?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 2: You asking an awful lot.
Speaker 1: Bad. I ain't got tired to be doing all that.
Speaker 1: You know, you do this and you and you add
Speaker 1: point two four or point four. No, man, I ain't
Speaker 1: got all that. I got time for that.
Speaker 2: So no, So I get what Aaron is saying mentoring.
Speaker 1: And because everybody processes information differently, Joe, Yeah, me, I
Speaker 1: was a visual learner. I need you to see you
Speaker 1: put it on the board. Hey Shannon, I want you
Speaker 1: to go do this and do that like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: joy the issue on the board. And once I saw
Speaker 1: that's okay, I'm good. Now I'm good. I'm a visual learner.
Speaker 1: Don't explain nothing to me, show me. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, hey bright, that was funny. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, at the beginning of the day,
Speaker 1: or at the middle of the day. Oh Joe, How
Speaker 1: well does somebody process information? How well do they retain information?
Speaker 1: And then can you spit it out? That's it?
Speaker 2: Can you split it out?
Speaker 1: Because sometimes some people can read something and have no
Speaker 1: earthly idea what the hell they read. Some people can
Speaker 1: skim over it and give you a great synopsis of
Speaker 1: what it actually saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody processes information different they do is.
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett had a simple response today about Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: joining the AFC North.
Speaker 2: I think it's a good opportunity to put him in
Speaker 2: the graveyard.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: That's the type of answer you expect from a deep zen.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, the type of answer you expect
Speaker 3: from one of, if not the best des in n
Speaker 3: N in the NFL. Listen, you got to deal with
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers twice a year. Ain't letting them know ahead
Speaker 3: of time. You already know what time it is. I'm
Speaker 3: not hit a nice about you.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no at all.
Speaker 1: Actually, I'm trying to I'm trying to add you. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to add you to the resume. You know. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I've got an opportunity to sack Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning or tarm Brady or somebody, but hey, you're the
Speaker 1: next best thing I'll take. I might not have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to get them, but I can get your ass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely. But they listen, Shit, they asked the
Speaker 3: wrong They asked the wrong one.
Speaker 1: Pakrapheo and President Mark Murphy had some shame for Joy
Speaker 1: Alexander when asked about the recent release. He's been a
Speaker 1: great player for US, obviously, elite tallent. Unfortunately just injure
Speaker 1: a lot. Unfortunately, that's a big part of the game.
Speaker 1: We see that we've been used to playing without him.
Speaker 1: Alexander played fourteen games over the last two seasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, damn, hey play fourteen games. Listen. Injuries, it's something
Speaker 3: you can't avoid. But one thing I know about that
Speaker 3: young bull. When he's healthy, when he's on the field
Speaker 3: and he's playing man the man in your face, he's
Speaker 3: gonna get everything he got any one of the best
Speaker 3: that he wanted, the best at it, but it doesn't
Speaker 3: get the credit he deserves because he's been injured. I
Speaker 3: can only speak on what I've seen. When I see
Speaker 3: him on the field. He gonna talk that trash through
Speaker 3: YouTube and back it up the best he can. Him
Speaker 3: and Justice Jeffs the matchups. Those matchups were classic. He
Speaker 3: wants and he lost some. But either way, I'm tuning
Speaker 3: in every time. Who used tolde them together, he gonna
Speaker 3: go somewhere. I don't know where you're gonna go.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Three those they understand. They need to understand what they're
Speaker 3: getting when he is healthy and do whatever they need
Speaker 3: to do to get him on that field and keep
Speaker 3: him on there.
Speaker 1: That's the toughest part about it, Ochoe, because being available
Speaker 1: is a big part of how good you are. You know, boy,
Speaker 1: he's a good worker. When I can get him to
Speaker 1: come to work, that is't what the day did right right? Uh?
Speaker 1: And I look, he's injured. I think he said he
Speaker 1: had a maniscus or something. He had a shoulder injury.
Speaker 1: When you play a skilled position, it's hard to go
Speaker 1: out there and play with something wrong with you because
Speaker 1: you got a lower extremity. Because that's how where am
Speaker 1: I going though, Joe? If I can't all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I can't be sudden all of a sudden, I'm a
Speaker 1: dB and I can't raise my arm. How do I
Speaker 1: knock down the pass? How do I intercept the past?
Speaker 1: Or if I got an injury, bout something with my knee,
Speaker 1: my hips or something ankles? Because guess what only thing
Speaker 1: people in the stand seeing, people at home see, man,
Speaker 1: y'all you're a game up a touchdown. Man, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: He don't feel off bad because he used to be good.
Speaker 1: He doesn't feel off bad. That's what they see. They
Speaker 1: don't see Monday to you know, and getting treatment and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. You're not able to practice, you potentially
Speaker 1: have to shoot up, you have to take medication. They
Speaker 1: don't see any of that. All they see is Alexander
Speaker 1: on the back of that pack of jersey, and whether
Speaker 1: or not he's making plays or not. It's really that simple.
Speaker 1: Did you or didn't you?
Speaker 3: Damn that's unfortunate, man.
Speaker 1: And I guess they were trying to like come to
Speaker 1: a number that was amenable to both parties, excuse me,
Speaker 1: and they could just never get there. Maybe he thought
Speaker 1: it was too low, they thought it was too high.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, we've seen teams
Speaker 1: and amount of money they won't eat. Because we seen
Speaker 1: them eat Aaron Rodgers' contract Green Bay. We've seen the
Speaker 1: Broncos eat Russell Wilson's contract. So there is not a
Speaker 1: denomination forty fifty sixty million dollars.
Speaker 2: They don't care.
Speaker 1: And there's a good chance the balcon probably have to
Speaker 1: eat Cousins Summer Cousin's contract.
Speaker 3: So you don't you don't think obviously he's not gonna move, huh.
Speaker 1: No, because I'm sure they're gonna want whoever whoever take
Speaker 1: him to pay up. Some stand each other that that
Speaker 1: contract and they're like, nah, we just wait for you
Speaker 1: to release him and we can get him a minimum Okay, Yeah, damn,
Speaker 1: I mean to pay fifty million dollars for a backup.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's good money that boy. Can you imagine? Yeah,
Speaker 3: back making a fifty.
Speaker 1: Million I just I remember when this deal came down
Speaker 1: to you, and I was talking about it, said, oh yo,
Speaker 1: we sure was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, listen, I sure thought he was gonna
Speaker 3: get at least two years in. I ain't know he
Speaker 3: would he would. I didn't know. I didn't know it
Speaker 3: would be that soon.
Speaker 1: I said, at best case scenario, he gets two. I said,
Speaker 1: but oh yo, what if he only gets one and
Speaker 1: you got all that guaranteed money? You and a Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that's it, And that's exactly what happened. Now.
Speaker 1: Russell's situation was a little you know, they wanted some
Speaker 1: protections and get the guaranteed money. Blah blah blah. Russell's like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm not waving that and not get it. But cousins
Speaker 1: Man and I think they still got another ten million
Speaker 1: that year they away, cause he got one hundred and ten.
Speaker 1: I think he got. He got one hundred signed a
Speaker 1: four year, one hundred and eighty million dollar deal, but
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten of it was guaranteed fifty sing
Speaker 1: bonus and then sixty over the next two years.
Speaker 3: Hey, one thing by brother cousins Man. Listen, God, God
Speaker 3: he he God has been good to him great and
Speaker 3: his timing his timing has been impeccable every time, and
Speaker 3: he better on himself. One thing about it, when you
Speaker 3: better on yourself, He's come out on top every single time.
Speaker 1: So how about you got eighty four? He got eighty
Speaker 1: four to sign one hundred and eighty four million, not no,
Speaker 1: eighty four million forty that's twenty one million dollars a year.
Speaker 2: Huh. No, I was talking about We talked about cousins. Doctor.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was, I was like, twenty doll Now,
Speaker 2: you're way more than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's the thing though, o Jo, I mean cousin. Now,
Speaker 1: Cousin's got like fifty million guaranteed. He got signing bonus
Speaker 1: because I think he had one hundred and ten It
Speaker 1: was one hundred and eighty for four years, and then
Speaker 1: I think he had one hundred and ten guaranteed, maybe
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty guaranteed.
Speaker 3: Whea, Hey, could you imagine because a chap could you imagine?
Speaker 3: Just close your eyes real quick and just imagine you
Speaker 3: go to sleep at the night and you wake up
Speaker 3: in the mornings and it's fifty million in your bank account.
Speaker 3: But uncle Saymingon took half of.
Speaker 2: It, o Jo, He got fifty, he got ninety total.
Speaker 1: Fully if you think about it, o yo, he's never
Speaker 1: had a contract since he became to start in Wahing.
Speaker 1: It wasn't guaranteed because I remember he played on he
Speaker 1: played on the franchise tag. One year, he played on
Speaker 1: the franchise tag. The second year, Minnesota fully guaranteed the deal.
Speaker 2: And then he came back.
Speaker 1: He got another fully guaranteed deal and now what to
Speaker 1: call him? Just gave him one hundred million fully guaranteed. Hey,
Speaker 1: so he got fifty this year, he got fifty. Last
Speaker 1: year he got forty. This year, that's ninety. He got
Speaker 1: another T in next year.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, that's god, child man, God don't play by this.
Speaker 1: Children, He don't. But when we come to Gaire for
Speaker 1: the Mark Murphy to say what he said, you think
Speaker 1: that's phairophile.
Speaker 3: You know what, what did you tell me? What did
Speaker 3: I tell you? I want owners? You say you wont
Speaker 3: you wote the truth? More owners need to start speaking
Speaker 3: like this.
Speaker 1: They don't really have an owner. They have a CEO.
Speaker 3: This is the only T that all the tea that
Speaker 3: doesn't have ownership, right, yeah, I mean listen, tell us
Speaker 3: how you really feel right now, the Bengals are in
Speaker 3: this situation right now. I mean, obviously I know there's
Speaker 3: no one over there that would do that, But tell
Speaker 3: us why you really don't want to pay it? You
Speaker 3: know it would be it would be, it would be
Speaker 3: a breadth of fresh air if we can get owner
Speaker 3: to speak out, why then't really don't want to do things?
Speaker 3: Somebody with Mike Murphy? What Mark Murphy?
Speaker 2: Did?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 3: We like him, we just don't feel we want to
Speaker 3: invest that much money into him. We don't think he's okay.
Speaker 3: He got he got seventeen and a half sacks two
Speaker 3: years in a row. But if we don't think he
Speaker 3: can do it for another year, right, just.
Speaker 2: Come out and say it.
Speaker 3: We don't see it as a Michael Parsons or we
Speaker 3: don't see him as a Miles Garrett type. He's a
Speaker 3: Tier two DEFICI. Come out and say it, because if
Speaker 3: it was anybody else, hell, if it was Miles Garrett,
Speaker 3: oh you're gonna get your money.
Speaker 2: Well it's kind of like I think I think, who
Speaker 2: was it?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Ranch Ricky? I wanted the one of a big contract.
Speaker 1: He said, what you hit last year? Son? He said,
Speaker 1: I hit three fifty seventeen homers and eighty five RBIs.
Speaker 1: He said, what place did we finish in the division?
Speaker 1: He said, we finished last. He said, we can finish
Speaker 1: that without you. So I guarantee your Cincinnatis having this conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where did we finish within defense with seventy when you
Speaker 1: got those seventeen half sacks? You were in defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year running. Where did we be finished? Where
Speaker 1: did we finished defensively? Okay, we can finish that without you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the that's how they're.
Speaker 1: Guaranteed they're having those conversations. Yeah, because it should we
Speaker 1: you and I thinking, oh, Joe, he should be a
Speaker 1: no brainer. The guy got seventeen a half sacks. He
Speaker 1: did it one year. He didn't do it just one year.
Speaker 1: He did it two years. Yeah, So you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: fire gool, But a lot of times what the mistakes?
Speaker 1: And sometimes you know you's better to wait. If you
Speaker 1: get Tea, you save yourself probably thirty million dollars if
Speaker 1: you sided him last year, If you go ahead and
Speaker 1: give see now, if you gave a Trey twenty eight
Speaker 1: million last year, he jump on that with both feet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Now he sees where the market is going to market,
Speaker 1: is not in the in the in the high twenties,
Speaker 1: low thirties, the markets in the forties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see, you know what you see what you
Speaker 3: just said the way you've just explained it about the
Speaker 3: timing of wins fighting to pay the players, and that's
Speaker 3: the difference in brother Harry Roseman and Jeffrey Lewy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the timing and when they decide to play players has
Speaker 3: always been impeccable. They get him before it's too high
Speaker 3: they Yeah, they get him at the right time where
Speaker 3: it makes sense. And it's almost to a point where
Speaker 3: it's team friendly in a sense because you can continue
Speaker 3: to build around them.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And man I wish man I wish more teams did that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't give himself up ship.
Speaker 1: Uh. We previously spoke about the reports that Terry McLaurin
Speaker 1: is frustrated with the lack of progress on a long
Speaker 1: term deal. Well, new reports say that scary Terry is
Speaker 1: not attending Commander's many camp. All these camps, now, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: are mandatory. There are no more voluntary. They're all mandatory.
Speaker 1: O Jo.
Speaker 2: How was the situation end? You don't get that money,
Speaker 2: don't get his money.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna tell you how you're gonna get his money.
Speaker 2: How you gonna get it?
Speaker 3: Jayde and Dan will go up, y'all, Hello, who is
Speaker 3: it in?
Speaker 2: Jaden?
Speaker 3: I need my number one quarterback. I need my captain.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what you need to do on your end,
Speaker 3: but I know what I need on my end. I
Speaker 3: need scary Terry to get that money. So I had that.
Speaker 3: That that's safety net. So I had that individual to
Speaker 3: throw to the same one. Pull up the film from
Speaker 3: last year. I don't understand what the problem is. I
Speaker 3: don't know what we mulling around for. Get him his money.
Speaker 3: Still got two years before I'm up, so we're gonna
Speaker 3: be all right.
Speaker 1: No, I'm going yeah this year, next year, after next year,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come see you too. And if I got him,
Speaker 1: that increases my value too, because I know I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put up big numbers and uh, I see where it's going.
Speaker 1: So I'm about I'm trying to get sixty two. Damn,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get hold on. I tried to get Josh.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get Josh Allen number sixty two. Josh
Speaker 1: Allen would have signed two years. I'm two years after
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I'm trying to keep the market going. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: how much Josh Allen? How much Josh Allen got full
Speaker 1: of guaranteed? I'll tell you what you ain't got to
Speaker 1: give me. You ain't got to give me for three hundred,
Speaker 1: make it all guaranteed, three hundred Josh Allen got three thirty.
Speaker 2: How much is full of guaranteed? Two fifty?
Speaker 1: He got a quarter billy, he got two fifty full
Speaker 1: of guaranteed. Okay, boom, that's me. So six years, three thirty.
Speaker 1: I don't really care nothing about that. Tell me how
Speaker 1: much if it floods, if it's snow, if it's a
Speaker 1: tornado or range stort, I don't care.
Speaker 2: Tell me what I'm gonna be, what I'm gonna get.
Speaker 1: So guess what by that time on Joe two seventy five,
Speaker 1: that gonna be going right two seventy five.
Speaker 3: Hey, so she destroved on being that in that ballpark too,
Speaker 3: then see just.
Speaker 1: Strived up there after the season. Absolutely yes, And you
Speaker 1: better hold Patrick Mahome, don't do say you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm tired all these jokers make it more than me,
Speaker 1: give me my true value. He wouldn't do that. Yeah, Pa,
Speaker 1: if he won't, you know, I'm saying, he's made it
Speaker 1: abundantly clear. He's like, he's doing great with money. They
Speaker 1: done great by him, and he's like, look, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to keep this team together as long as I
Speaker 1: possibly can keep his money, good players around me, all
Speaker 1: lot Tom Brady as I possibly can.
Speaker 2: Hey, and plus the money that I make off the
Speaker 2: field can sustain.
Speaker 3: My lifestyle, and it makes up for what he's not
Speaker 3: gonna make in contracts as opposed that other quarterbacks has
Speaker 3: taking a huge lumsum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's making I think the thing is ojo when
Speaker 1: you look at it. My homeboy, he's gonna be like Brady.
Speaker 1: Brady's not the is not the highest paid, was not
Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterback, even though he played the most years.
Speaker 2: He didn't make the most money.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is at four hundred and eight million, I think,
Speaker 1: and then Matthew Staffords at three ninety one. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: way way on that. I mean, Tom Brady, listen, don't
Speaker 1: feel sorry for me. Made really good money. But Tom,
Speaker 1: it became painfully became obvious to everybody the most important
Speaker 1: thing was rings. It wasn't money because Tom realized as
Speaker 1: a quarterback he was gonna be able to make money.
Speaker 1: Now he's making thirty five million or thirty seven million
Speaker 1: a year for ten years.
Speaker 2: So he good.
Speaker 1: So he said, now, now look, I give y'all something
Speaker 1: to chase, cause y'all can pass me monetarily.
Speaker 2: I want to see the dude that's gonna catch me
Speaker 2: with these rains.
Speaker 1: Who gonna get eight?
Speaker 2: Who will get seven? Who gonna get six?
Speaker 1: While we talking about it, I'm already there. I'm in
Speaker 1: the clubhouse, he says. Look, I've already shot under par
Speaker 1: I'm in the clubhouse.
Speaker 2: Come catch me.
Speaker 3: Dang so.
Speaker 1: God damn tears like, look, bro, I'd have been to
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowls out of a thousand yard seasons. I
Speaker 1: don't really know what else y'all want me to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what else I need to do to
Speaker 2: show you that I'm worth whatever.
Speaker 1: I say I am.
Speaker 3: So his situation is different. He's gonna get his money.
Speaker 3: It's just about being patient and the timing of when
Speaker 3: it gets done. Miss Minnie camp to make sure you're
Speaker 3: working out before the season, star maybe before training camp.
Speaker 3: You don't want to miss another training camp. You don't
Speaker 3: want no, Now you don't. You don't do that.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that the organization understands you're going in
Speaker 3: a different direction. You're going in different directions. You had
Speaker 3: a phenomenal season last year. You got things off, you
Speaker 3: got things off to a great start. Don't don't f
Speaker 3: it up. Don't f it up, don't piss off the fans.
Speaker 3: You had a great season NFC championship last year. Let's
Speaker 3: keep that momentum and consistency of greatness going forward and
Speaker 3: changing that culture.
Speaker 1: Wow. Reports are saying coach wide receiver wide receiver coach
Speaker 1: Reggae Wayne reggu Wayinge, that is, Reggie Wayne is viewed
Speaker 1: as a possible interim head coach if Shane Steichen struggles
Speaker 1: to start the season.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, I like it?
Speaker 1: You don't like it? Now? Here's the thing you know
Speaker 1: they're under You know Jim ursay rest is soul mister
Speaker 1: passed away a month ago. Three daughters took over. I
Speaker 1: think it's oldest, oldest daughter. Although they all have roles,
Speaker 1: she is the majority and she makes the decisions because
Speaker 1: even if it's a family thing. The NFL wants that
Speaker 1: be one boys. They want one person to be able
Speaker 1: to talk. And so she if the she's the you know,
Speaker 1: the oldest, and I guess he, you know, put it
Speaker 1: in a situation where okay, you have a thiss and
Speaker 1: it's going to go accordingly. But that'll be very very
Speaker 1: interesting because it's one thing that like damn, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, we're thrust into this and we're running a
Speaker 1: billion dollar corporation. A multi billion dollar corporation is something
Speaker 1: entirely different. When you got a head coach situation in
Speaker 1: your first year, that's not something that you know, you've
Speaker 1: been on the job for five six years old, Joe,
Speaker 1: you you want to kind of understand it, but your
Speaker 1: first year, you got to make that decision.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, they've been around the game. Though they've
Speaker 3: been around the game long left and nine for you
Speaker 3: are certain decisions that are going to be made that
Speaker 3: can be you know, somewhat altering business decisions and business decisions,
Speaker 3: and that that is one of them. Listen, I'm not
Speaker 3: sure who made the call or who made the decision.
Speaker 3: When Jeff Jeff Saturday got the opportunity, Jim Mercy Jim Mersey.
Speaker 2: So again he loved his players. He really closed his players.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, So, I mean I think that I
Speaker 3: think it would be a great, great opportunity for for Reggie.
Speaker 3: He knows the organization, he knows the fan base, he
Speaker 3: understands the culture and and and what with not the fans,
Speaker 3: but what that organization needs to get any back to
Speaker 3: their winning ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But here's the thing, oh, Joe, you have to understand,
Speaker 1: Jim Mercy had a personal relationship with Jeff Saturday. Listen,
Speaker 1: They're just even though they're around, they don't have the
Speaker 1: same type of relationships. They haven't developed that. It it's
Speaker 1: different male female, you know what I'm saying on Joe.
Speaker 1: So going out, you know, mister Ertha, going out and
Speaker 1: drinking with with with Saturday and some of the guys
Speaker 1: is one thing. That's not what they're going to do.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna have.
Speaker 2: That same dynamic as their father had. And so that's
Speaker 2: what you know.
Speaker 1: I don't wish I don't want Shane stinking. I don't
Speaker 1: want him the man to lose his job. But I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a situation they're just saying, they're just throwing
Speaker 1: stuff up like what if they eat struggles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shane is gonna be okay. Shane is gonna be okay.
Speaker 3: Him losing in job is all predicated on how the
Speaker 3: quarterback play is. Yes, listen, the quarterback players. That's all
Speaker 3: it comes down to. That's that's not even want to
Speaker 3: call it the elephant in the room, but that's the
Speaker 3: goddamn elephant in the room. Well, is a quarterback player
Speaker 3: gonna play? Because if the quarterback player is bad, he's
Speaker 3: gonna get you fired.
Speaker 1: That's what happens. And sometimes they play just good enough
Speaker 1: to get themselves, get the coach fired, and them cut
Speaker 1: self cut.
Speaker 2: That's what rich rich used to tell us.
Speaker 1: H Richard Smithew, that special teams coach. He says, Son,
Speaker 1: you play just well enough to get me cut and
Speaker 1: you fired. So that's gonna be a tough I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Houston's gonna be you know, Houston's gonna rebound
Speaker 1: even though they wonted division last year. I think they'll
Speaker 1: be a little bit better. We would be very interesting
Speaker 1: to see how Jacksonville does this year. They got a
Speaker 1: new head coach. They got Travis Hunter. We'll see, uh,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lartce.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got to come back.
Speaker 2: He got Bryan Thomas Jr.
Speaker 3: Trav Yeah, I'm so, I'm excited. Hey that he is
Speaker 3: Jackson Jacksonville. Man, what what else? That stadium gonna be rocking. Boy,
Speaker 3: that stadium gonna be rocking.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: O Joe Shane Stikin says Anthony Richardson Village visited doctor
Speaker 1: neil Ela Trosh in Los Angeles to get a second
Speaker 1: opinion on his shoulder. Stikeen says, nothing has changed, and
Speaker 1: the plan is you just read to show it for now.
Speaker 2: There's no timetable on his return.
Speaker 1: Damn. So you oh yo, if we start a race,
Speaker 1: were running, all of a sudden, you catch a cramp
Speaker 1: or you get tired, your stomach start to hurt, so
Speaker 1: you stop. Yeah, you see what happens.
Speaker 3: So Daniel Jones right now is the starting quarterback for
Speaker 3: the absolutely Okay, Daniel Jones isn't answer either, just f yi.
Speaker 1: It all depends on what's the question. Name the quarterback
Speaker 1: that went the duke? He's the answer. Well you say
Speaker 1: he's not to ask. I just need to know the
Speaker 1: question you ask it first.
Speaker 3: Listen, Daniel Jones is not the answer. I don't care
Speaker 3: what people say. About answer the Richardson him being heard
Speaker 3: he was inconsistent last year. Whatever it may be, damn
Speaker 3: je is an answer either, And I'm then that's no
Speaker 3: disrespect to him. I'm just being honest. We saw we
Speaker 3: saw a large, simple side of what he could do
Speaker 3: in New York, in the biggest market. Yes it's market.
Speaker 3: What's some decent talent in the riding? You know, I
Speaker 3: think from from a supporting cast standpoint, it's a lot
Speaker 3: better than any form, Oh.
Speaker 2: For sure, a lot.
Speaker 1: They got Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. Look at those receivers.
Speaker 1: They got Peers and and and and and j Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, they got some talent over there. Now the
Speaker 1: offensive line defense isn't bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: If you can it can't get it done here, then
Speaker 3: you are the problem. Damn man. And that was damn
Speaker 3: O Joe turn around here for Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1: Picked the wrong time to have this type of injury.
Speaker 1: It's like I said that maybe it since A C.
Speaker 1: Jordan something like that. He went to uh the Courland,
Speaker 1: Joe Clint. They got l A Neil La troc Remember
Speaker 1: I was telling you about him, doctor La Trosh.
Speaker 2: Why are they we to do it now?
Speaker 3: And not doing it when the season ended.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Did he have surgery then maybe maybe
Speaker 1: he's throwing because a lot of times, you know, they
Speaker 1: bring extra quarterbacks and O joe because they don't want
Speaker 1: the quarterback throwing so much so early, so so soon,
Speaker 1: and sometimes they just get dead arms and you know,
Speaker 1: gotta you know. I don't know how much he threw
Speaker 1: in the off season, you know, because as a picture,
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta throw.
Speaker 3: He might he might might be overdoing it.
Speaker 1: Man. They're the possibility of that too. We don't know.
Speaker 2: We just.
Speaker 1: Two years ago. Yeah, yeah, it's if he's having I
Speaker 1: think it says a c joy, isn't it. He had
Speaker 1: he had surgery after his rook well, remember he miss
Speaker 1: he only played. He only played like three or four
Speaker 1: games his rookie year because he got that shoulder and
Speaker 1: he had surgery on.
Speaker 2: They're saying that he some sowredness in that throwing shoulder
Speaker 2: that he had surgery on.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 1: Lions head coach Dan Campbell wants to have a live
Speaker 1: lion on the team's sideline at Ford Field, but the
Speaker 1: NFL said hell no, despite on a Sheila Ford hamp.
Speaker 2: Approving it.
Speaker 1: Sheila said, had no problem with it, but the league
Speaker 1: apparently frowned upon those type of things. You know what,
Speaker 1: He'll be a perfect college coach because they let you
Speaker 1: have anything. They let you have a Clysdale, They'll let
Speaker 1: you have an elephant, a panther. Lsu got, Lsu got
Speaker 1: what a falcon fly ISyE? That like at at Albert
Speaker 1: Campbell told pardon my, pardon my tape? Oh Joe, I
Speaker 1: mean you want to lie on the sideline? Hell? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Should I like that? So listen that all that does?
Speaker 3: It gives me another idea. Obviously I'm not playing, but
Speaker 3: I could. Can you imagine me playing for Dan Campbell,
Speaker 3: you know, back during those days and the lion on
Speaker 3: the sideline, and I got it. I get to come
Speaker 3: up with a celebration after scoring using the lion, using
Speaker 3: our mascot manh many.
Speaker 1: I could see me jumping in the cage. I guess
Speaker 1: I can see that line. Tear your ass up in
Speaker 1: that cage. NFL says the last thing, The NFL won't
Speaker 1: that infant lion mess right to break up out that cage?
Speaker 3: Jojo right, don't know, listen, don't nobody got no part
Speaker 3: of that. Whether you got on pads or not. Because
Speaker 3: here's the thing people don't realize.
Speaker 1: Like you see a line on television and like hey
Speaker 1: that but when you see that bofo imp of close?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, four hundred pounds are all muscle.
Speaker 3: Hey, I want to think about it for the people
Speaker 3: in the chat that have cats. Right, just think about this.
Speaker 3: Think about the people that have cats. And how quick
Speaker 3: in ajib your regular home, the Mexican cat is. Now
Speaker 3: you take a full how much they were lion that
Speaker 3: has that same type of agility and quickness. Just for
Speaker 3: some reason, they see twenty three hours a day and
Speaker 3: can still jump out. Man, it's dog there. Let us unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Speaker 3: And they's so damn lazy.
Speaker 1: Hey, they sleep half the day. They they hunted at night.
Speaker 1: You get there, get their little hunt on, get their
Speaker 1: little a and just chill there. What a life, bro Nah?
Speaker 1: Like I said, in college, you know, college didn't let
Speaker 1: anything go. They have goats, and they have rams, and
Speaker 1: they have you know, even Colorado and they're gonna have
Speaker 1: Ralphe run on the field or uh who is that?
Speaker 1: Oklahoma got Boomer schooner Boomer sooner and the little the
Speaker 1: little Benny Horsey. Yeah, NFL said, nah, we're good.
Speaker 3: I like it though. That would be dope. That would
Speaker 3: be dope if if they get to implement mascots that
Speaker 3: were that that reference the teams, but had the real
Speaker 3: mascot outside of just.
Speaker 1: Well we gotta we got we got mascot fund to
Speaker 1: run on the field every time this court touched down
Speaker 1: the horse. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, See, every team, I'm saying every team, the Bengals
Speaker 3: should have an actual Bengal Tiger. I mean, I think
Speaker 3: it would be dope. It would be fun.
Speaker 2: You got your dad, Bye, I'm just being honest.
Speaker 1: What the Cowboys? They do have a cowboy? I mean,
Speaker 1: so I've tried to figure out the Giants how they
Speaker 1: gonna get a mascot. How thought they're gonna be gonna
Speaker 1: be Dad? Are you gonna be?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: The Giants?
Speaker 3: What is the Giants mascot?
Speaker 2: Was the Giant?
Speaker 3: That's it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to figure out.
Speaker 3: So the Seahawks having a Seahawk, Yeah, the Colts obviously
Speaker 3: having a horse. I'm I'd assume the Chiefs, that's easy. Uh,
Speaker 3: who else we got Broncos officer? You have the horse.
Speaker 1: We got thunder.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well panthers having a panther, Oh that would be dope.
Speaker 3: A black panther coming, Oh that'll be live. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to think what a Raven's It's easy to get a guy,
Speaker 3: damn raven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3: Could you image if they had a big bison?
Speaker 1: Oh you wanted to run out and feel like Ralphi?
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, get you a real bison. Many NFL neither.
Speaker 3: They might as well, just.
Speaker 2: You know, try some difference. One thing about the NFL,
Speaker 2: they do not want to pay no money.
Speaker 3: They make all the money.
Speaker 1: Though I know that's how you keep it. You keep
Speaker 1: keep it. You can, you make it and you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't spit it away with lawsuits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Marvin Harrison Jr. Have been hitting the gym ojo.
Speaker 1: Even Kyler Murray couldn't believe how different Marvin Harrison Jr.
Speaker 2: Look. When asked about this transformation, Kyler said, hell, I
Speaker 2: thought it was Ai. Yeah, he yoke up.
Speaker 1: He more than you.
Speaker 2: Joe, he got you.
Speaker 3: Nah, we're buy the same side.
Speaker 2: Nah, Oh Joe, he got you. Joe. I'm bigg I'm
Speaker 2: bigger at junior.
Speaker 3: I'm bigger than junior. Nah, trust me, man, trust me.
Speaker 1: What y'all think, y'all think, Oh, you're bigger than all
Speaker 1: they gotta do.
Speaker 2: Look at me, man, look at this this, look at him, No,
Speaker 2: look at me, look at this.
Speaker 1: This.
Speaker 3: This is McDonald's man to talking about. Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see, he got real good chicken breasts. You know
Speaker 1: he probably had some broccoli, cauliflower, maybe a little carrots, salad,
Speaker 1: kale salad, a rougle or something like that.
Speaker 3: Mean what you're talking about, man, But it's real boy
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm a full sea cut like I can't. I
Speaker 3: gotta put I gotta put my tea. I gotta get
Speaker 3: an egg, a one side, smaller T shirt just to
Speaker 3: keephi a chest down.
Speaker 2: You're still a small No, what this is.
Speaker 1: A two X?
Speaker 2: No it ain't. This is a two X from H
Speaker 2: and them.
Speaker 3: I can show you.
Speaker 2: Show me eh and m see God dang yo' send
Speaker 2: me some uh some shorts that they talk about. These
Speaker 2: are two ex what's that? God damn things? Little? Uh,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying for two eggs?
Speaker 3: They send me them.
Speaker 2: Bad? You get on that reformer.
Speaker 3: Hey, what kind of shorts thing is?
Speaker 2: They're supposed to be ya shorts.
Speaker 3: Oh they're supposed to be small.
Speaker 2: Huh no, they are not for me.
Speaker 3: Nah, you know, but you know, hey, yoga, you suppose
Speaker 3: I ain't never did yoga, man, I'm supposed you supposed
Speaker 3: to be free?
Speaker 2: You know? Really? How am I free with those little
Speaker 2: love tiny ass things?
Speaker 1: You don't want?
Speaker 3: Nothing baggy though?
Speaker 1: Hey I gotta have I'm about to have to have
Speaker 1: a junk strap, old bad. Don't you supposed to have
Speaker 1: old baggy stuff in yoga? Oh?
Speaker 2: No, you want to be free?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Nothing, that's free baggy. It's free, not constricted.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got you.
Speaker 2: YOA I don't know. I think you about have miss
Speaker 2: sized these.
Speaker 3: Joe cid. Joe sent me something too, man, So we'll
Speaker 3: we'll see.
Speaker 1: We'll see it tomorrow, Joe