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Speaker 1: of Project Pink Pony. Welcome back to another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis

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Speaker 1: and I have joined in the room filled with heroes

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenhal. What is up? Boys?

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan? There are plenty of legs to that, by

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Speaker 1: the way, from day one of this show, Project Pink

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Speaker 1: Pink Pony, which essentially is the Patriots sending people out

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Speaker 1: Well that's for other reasons, like getting that Belichick cast.

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Speaker 1: He's just sending me in the mail. Just hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about football. Okay. Uh, today's show good one,

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Speaker 1: starts to bubble up. This is one where you'll see

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Speaker 1: it will be Thursday night, um, and it will be

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Speaker 1: and it's that very typical boring picture three hours before

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Speaker 1: kickoff of their laptop in front of a field. It says,

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Speaker 1: my office for the days. So's a phrase, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm always told I don't let the

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Speaker 1: sound effect play out, so as long as it's going on, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you want the listener to enjoy that. This came

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Speaker 1: from a Twitter follower. I'm gonna retweet his his tweet

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Speaker 1: when I find it here it is it was a

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Speaker 1: great suggestion, and that it's a great suggestion when you realize,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, that has annoyed me for a very

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Speaker 1: very long time, and if you're doing this, just stop

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Speaker 1: doing it. In fact, you are ordered to stop doing it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: This one feels a little esoteric. Not all of them

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Speaker 1: are like grand slams. If you go up to the dictionary,

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Speaker 1: some words are a little more nuanced and focused at

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Speaker 1: certain people. Not every word is like a five star.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. And we The problem is there's

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Speaker 1: something inherent I guess about being a sportswriter that just

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Speaker 1: makes you do it. Because we all sent out this

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Speaker 1: aim somewhat boring picture from wherever we were sitting of

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Speaker 1: a of a blank. But we don't say my office now,

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Speaker 1: you don't say that. You don't say I don't need

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Speaker 1: those I don't need those pictures. They're boring. I know

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Speaker 1: what a football field. I don't need the picture rather,

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Speaker 1: but the picture alone I would forgive. Because if you're

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Speaker 1: at the super Bowl and you're taking a picture of

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Speaker 1: the stadium, every human is doing that. I kind of

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Speaker 1: get that. But with it's the my office of the

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Speaker 1: day where it's like a that's a humble brag. We

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Speaker 1: get it. You're covering football or you're covering a baseball game.

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Speaker 1: Good for you. We'll figure out that you're covering it

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Speaker 1: by the context of your information. Right, show us something

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Speaker 1: that proves that it was helpful to be there, and

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll figure it out. What would you say to

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Speaker 1: the people I'm with you, thank you, Greg. What do

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Speaker 1: you say to the people it's fine have thrown out

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Speaker 1: the theory that this is just your gateway to banning

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Speaker 1: social media altogether, that if they gonna happen, No, because

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Speaker 1: well I think that's those are alarmous, because that would

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Speaker 1: take a lot. There's a lot of stuff happening on

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Speaker 1: Twitter that I would never get to his own. Certain

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Speaker 1: well that will happen in some way, but certain things

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Speaker 1: that I just find annoying. I find sometimes that at

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Speaker 1: least seventy of other people also finding someone. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Mark's not getting off the Graham, He's the he's the

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Speaker 1: most social media savvy gan. You never know, like the

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Speaker 1: whole thing is something some at some point just ghost

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Speaker 1: entirely and turn it all off, turn the shop lights off.

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Speaker 1: You're definitely quitting Twitter before Instagram. Mark's not twitting any

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Speaker 1: social media Twitter. That's my my guarantee. I think you

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Speaker 1: like it. You love the social not post not post

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Speaker 1: working here I I did, Twitter would probably be deep

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Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror. All right, there you go, band.

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Speaker 1: You can no longer say my office for the day,

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Speaker 1: local journals and national journals. It's out. Go on, gon,

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Speaker 1: I like when the cannon fire fires in a way,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I think Eric could kind of drop

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Speaker 1: the ball, just giving us that's so bored by the

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Speaker 1: way top ten m V. She's just mad that her

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Speaker 1: insurance went up eight dollars. I mean, that's what happens

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Speaker 1: when you hit someone with your car. Literally, you hit

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Speaker 1: a woman. She ran into my stopped car. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: I hate to do this, but we have some One

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Speaker 1: minute ago on Twitter dot com, Erica tam post Is

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Speaker 1: sent a tweet out that says my office for the day,

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Speaker 1: with a picture of the Oh that's that's that's that's

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Speaker 1: rich Mark. What are you gonna do? What are you

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Speaker 1: deal in this situation? You're dealing with someone that at

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Speaker 1: every turn in the road is looking for self promotional items,

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Speaker 1: self promotion tweets, anything she can do to get on

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Speaker 1: any microphone anywhere, and uh, for her good qualities, I'll

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Speaker 1: endure this part of her personality. Was a good tweet.

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Speaker 1: That's too. That was that. But that was a little

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Speaker 1: bit cutting. Yeah, that like every microphone I can get on.

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Speaker 1: Are you speaking into a microphone right now? Ye? Don't

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Speaker 1: make you. I don't want to be here, ericat your

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Speaker 1: good qualities far outwait that one little bullet point. The

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Speaker 1: broadcast drops every Thursday. Make sure you subscribe and download

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Speaker 1: right now. You you left it open for the top

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Speaker 1: ten MVP candidates after week four. Chris Westling road a banger.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's a beefy one too. I'm gonna say. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say it's about words of action. It's over two babies.

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Speaker 1: Oh whoa. That is a lot of content. And that's

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Speaker 1: because West went methodically through each of the ten and

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Speaker 1: really dug into it. This is no one liner. And

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Speaker 1: there are certain people in this industry, maybe even in

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Speaker 1: this company, that that get a list assignment and they

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Speaker 1: knock out the column clearly in about twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 1: West burning the midnight oil and don't even get a

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Speaker 1: lot of sweet sleep last night. Look at this guy's

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Speaker 1: wearing his glasses. He looks like hell not quite, but

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Speaker 1: I'm tired. I'm conflicted about list articles because it feels

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Speaker 1: like the entire industry has decided just to do slide

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Speaker 1: shows and whatever. And what I was like seven years ago,

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Speaker 1: the slide shows have kind of died. Greg. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: where do you shows on our site right now? By

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Speaker 1: the way, Gennaro or editor called it, rank it and

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Speaker 1: bank it. That's the approach that most people take toward it.

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Speaker 1: But I like, where to else do I have to

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Speaker 1: put my game game pass notes? So that's what that's

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Speaker 1: what goes in there. But here's the I'm I'm with

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Speaker 1: you on that. But don't you like reading lists? That's

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Speaker 1: the thing that's it's a catch to Ultimately, I like

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Speaker 1: reading them. They're my guilty pleasure. Broll Casey. I don't

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Speaker 1: even know what to do with Dan right now. Number

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Speaker 1: ten on your list, defensive lineman Tennessee Titans. Uh, this

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Speaker 1: is I think a lot of people you know that

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Speaker 1: maybe don't dive as deep into the tape as as

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Speaker 1: West would not have drill Casey anywhere near Uh an

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Speaker 1: m v P list tell us why he's on yours? Well?

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Speaker 1: Symbolic of the Titans, And there were about ten different

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Speaker 1: guys I could have thrown in there at ten. To me,

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Speaker 1: the analysis is more interesting than the number um. While

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Speaker 1: the while the Titans were going through their backup quarterback

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Speaker 1: not making plays, the defense carried this team for weeks

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Speaker 1: two and three, and then they showed up big and

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Speaker 1: week four two and Darell Casey is playing as well

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Speaker 1: as any defensive lineman in football this year. I don't

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Speaker 1: care what PF's grades say. He's up there with anyone,

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Speaker 1: and they've got him very high, and well I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they do, but um, this is a guy who's been

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Speaker 1: possibly the most unsunk star in the NFL for the

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Speaker 1: last half decade. I like that you put him in

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Speaker 1: here against the other ten, probably nine of them running

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Speaker 1: backs or quarterbacks or whatever it will because because the

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Speaker 1: whole way that m v P voting happens, and there

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Speaker 1: hasn't been a defensive player picks since Lawrence Taylor led

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Speaker 1: the league in sax franchises would need to fold for

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Speaker 1: Darrell Casey to win m v P. But I will

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Speaker 1: say he belongs on this list. Yeah. I don't even

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be top ten consideration by the end

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Speaker 1: of the year. I just want to give him. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he'll get the Defensive Player of the Year, Um, just

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Speaker 1: Geno Atkins this year is too. Sometimes with defensive lineman offensive.

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Speaker 1: You just kind of like assume they're at the same

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Speaker 1: up and down at those positions, just like any other.

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Speaker 1: In Darrell case, he's playing better this year than he's

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Speaker 1: ever played. Seven eight nine on this list is three

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Speaker 1: incredibly important UH skill players to their respective teams. Zeke

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Speaker 1: Elliott running back Cowboys nine, Tyre Tyreek Hill wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs eight, Todd Gurley running back Rams seven, Tyreek Hill West.

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Speaker 1: You've been singing, UH the praises of that wide receiver

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Speaker 1: all season. Thirty mighty and be a little higher this list. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I originally had him higher, um and then he kind

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Speaker 1: of disappeared for stretches of the last two games. I

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Speaker 1: the spacing for this offense, and they have as much

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Speaker 1: the reasons why Patrick Mahome is going to be an

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Speaker 1: m VP candidate because at Tyreek Hill's Tyreek Hill's presence

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Speaker 1: out there, and there's no other number one type of

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Speaker 1: He's only he's only returned a handful of punts this year,

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Speaker 1: and three of them have gone for big distances. He

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Speaker 1: Other m v P note like I think Ezekiel Elliott,

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Speaker 1: no matter what he does, probably faces a little bit

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Speaker 1: of an uphill climb, even though he's on the team

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Speaker 1: that gets more celebration than any other team combined, because

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Speaker 1: if they go seven and nine or six and ten,

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Speaker 1: or they don't make the playoffs. Again, if you look

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Speaker 1: out of ten times they're attached to a high flying,

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Speaker 1: winning team. I have even more respect for Zeke Elliott

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Speaker 1: through the first four weeks that I've had in the

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Speaker 1: past because he's doing this, he's the he's showing this year.

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Speaker 1: Certain guys will disappear. Running backs will disappear when they

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Speaker 1: don't have quite the cast that they need around him.

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Speaker 1: And he's still a badass right now, even with the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys kind of going uphill on offense. He's a great

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Speaker 1: guy to think about. What with the team would be

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Speaker 1: like without him, They'd be terrible. It's like the Rams

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Speaker 1: would be fine without Todd Gurley. They would figure it

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Speaker 1: play that won that game other than the field goal,

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Speaker 1: of course, is uh girl Zeke going down the sideline

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Speaker 1: in Not a lot of running backs can make that play.

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Speaker 1: Let's move to number six Aaron Rodgers uh and number

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Speaker 1: future Hall of famers, still getting it done. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: which would shatter his own record for a single season.

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Speaker 1: It's insane and Aaron Rodgers I mean what he did

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Speaker 1: week one, um the largest fourth quarter comeback in the

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Speaker 1: ninety eight year nine year history of the Packers, was

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Speaker 1: prettiest throws of the season have been dropped by Packers

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams hands and Geronimo Allison's hands in the end

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Speaker 1: zone in the red zone last week. And this game

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Speaker 1: should have been way better than twenty two to nothing

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Speaker 1: in the Packers like a seasoned bullfighter out of a

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Speaker 1: And I should note that Aaron Rodgers, even though their

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Speaker 1: offense did not play very well as a unit UH

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Speaker 1: last week against the Bills, moving better, which is a

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Speaker 1: good sign that perhaps his legs are getting back up

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Speaker 1: to speed. UH moved to UH number four. Alvin Kamara,

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Speaker 1: running back New Orleans Saints Mark he is super impressive

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Speaker 1: this season because this is the year. The first quarter

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Speaker 1: of the season he did it on his own and

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Speaker 1: the Saints and skip a beat back there. He can

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Speaker 1: do it all. And I guess I with this whole

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Speaker 1: pull the player from the offense thing, I would struggle

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Speaker 1: a little bit. If you pull Alvin Kamara from this

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Speaker 1: all offense, you still have what they've had all along,

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Speaker 1: which is Drew Brees and the parts around him. But

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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamart to me, is such a different kind of

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Speaker 1: player than they've ever had. But if you pull Drew

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Speaker 1: Brees and you put in some other no name or

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Speaker 1: what happens to it, you've got two m VP candidates

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Speaker 1: on that offense for a good reason. But to me,

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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara is doing things that no other running back

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Speaker 1: and football can do right now, and he's doing it

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Speaker 1: no matter who else is on the field, and he's

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Speaker 1: a special player and they know it. The the touchdown

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Speaker 1: that he scored, the balance that he showed last week

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Speaker 1: on the goal line. I think that's what really separates him,

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Speaker 1: is that he can be that that receiver, essentially running

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Speaker 1: routes and beating linebackers like receiver, but he can also

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Speaker 1: he can also withstand linebackers crunching him on the goal

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Speaker 1: line and keep his balance. He That's why I call

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Speaker 1: him an alien like he has a like a balance

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Speaker 1: that it's hard to measure that, but it's better than

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Speaker 1: any running back I can remember. I'm just glad he

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Speaker 1: was born when he was. I was in nowhere they

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Speaker 1: could from you mentioned you mentioned his goal line abilities.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that now that mark Ingram is back

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Speaker 1: that they'll have a similar role to last season, or

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Speaker 1: do you think Kamara is kind of the lead dog

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Speaker 1: here as opposed to a one two punch. I think

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Speaker 1: he was the lead dog by the end of last year,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think his role has to change too

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Speaker 1: much because he's only run the ball fifty six times

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Speaker 1: this year. You probably won't get games like last week

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Speaker 1: where he had nineteen carries as often, but they've they've

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Speaker 1: been pretty conservative with him running and he's caught the

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Speaker 1: ball more. He's third in receptions on pace to break

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Speaker 1: Matt Forte single season record for receptions by running back.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna go over a hundred unless he gets injured.

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Speaker 1: It's a great problem for them to have to figure

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Speaker 1: that out. The top three Khalil Mac linebacker Bears. I

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Speaker 1: think everyone has been tracking this guy's season. Gets traded

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Speaker 1: from the Raiders and has just become a monster. He's

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Speaker 1: on paced with twenty sacks and thirteen force fumbles and

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Speaker 1: is the face of that defense right now. And then

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Speaker 1: you have Jared Goff at number two getting some love.

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Speaker 1: This has been it's been funny that Jared got narrative

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Speaker 1: in this NFL season. The first two weeks you had

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Speaker 1: the after the second week you had the game manager

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Speaker 1: narrative rolled in. Now the last two weeks, when he's

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Speaker 1: been lighting it up, it's like the totally opposite side

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Speaker 1: of it where it's like Jared Goff is actually a superstar. Guys,

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Speaker 1: he's closer to that list. You'd have to be blind

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Speaker 1: to watch Jared Goff the last two weeks and think

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Speaker 1: that he's a game manager when he's making uh, what

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Speaker 1: Jim Murray once said about Dan Marino double keyhole throws,

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Speaker 1: not just putting it through one key hole, but two

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Speaker 1: key hole and then through a turkey hole sometimes and

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Speaker 1: then through a turkey wing somebody putting the ball right

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Speaker 1: on his receiver's hands twenty yards down field. What what

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Speaker 1: more do you want the guy to do? Even in

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Speaker 1: that week too game, he was making plays under pressure

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Speaker 1: into tight windows that I don't I think that was

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Speaker 1: the one thing that I wondered about Jared Goff can

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Speaker 1: he can he move away from pressure, but he shows

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Speaker 1: that he's not Tom Brady, but he shows that ability

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Speaker 1: to move within the pocket that Matt Ryan's also very

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Speaker 1: good at to get away from defenders and deliver while

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Speaker 1: he's about to be hit. And I don't think that

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Speaker 1: was really there the first couple of years. He's just

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Speaker 1: getting better. I agree if Khalil Mac keeps this up

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00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: and again, this award is always on my radar because

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00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: it only goes to two positions for twenty nine years

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00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: in a row, and then it goes to a third.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how he wins m v P based

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Speaker 1: on what J. J. Watt did over previous seasons. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how they don't just slide him into Defensive

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Speaker 1: Player of the Year. But if he keeps this up,

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Speaker 1: there's such an argument to change the way we look

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Speaker 1: at m v P because he is I get that.

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Speaker 1: I get that. If you're they threw six touchdowns the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks good, now, everyone's all on that bus. Mattnagate can

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Speaker 1: run the offense. This is their quarterback. He came in

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Speaker 1: and changed this team from the absolute minty stepped on

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Speaker 1: the field, and they would not be who they are

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Speaker 1: without Khalil Mack. He's what an m v P should be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if not for that miraculous Aaron Rodgers comeback, the Bears

741
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Speaker 1: would be undefeated and people would be talking about him

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Speaker 1: more as an m v P. And I think you'd

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00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: have to go. Some of those watch seasons were just outrageous.

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Speaker 1: I think they might have fallen on some of those

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Speaker 1: crazy Peyton Manning years and Aaron Rodgers seasons. But the

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Speaker 1: back is gonna be crazy this year. It's such a

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Speaker 1: high bar though, right, And I think the quarterback ultimately

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Speaker 1: is to me the most important player in the sport.

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Speaker 1: So I I get what you're saying, but Mac could

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Speaker 1: make a real strong push. What if they changed the

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Speaker 1: name of the award from Defensive Player of the Year

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00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: too defensive m v P. Would that make you feeling?

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Speaker 1: It would make me because I think what we do

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Speaker 1: is we automatically take it. It's easier just to understand

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Speaker 1: offense if you're half these voters. I understand a wide

756
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: receiver going for two thousand quarterback doing but when you're

757
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: looking Darrell Casey will never get consideration because who's watching

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Speaker 1: Darrell Casey? And even with Mac you can hear that

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00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: Max great and see it on highlight plays, but you

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Speaker 1: don't see the nuance of snap after snap. Most of

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Speaker 1: these voters, and I think reporters and voters have gotten

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Speaker 1: much more knowledgeable thanks to services like PFF. But still

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Speaker 1: it's a stats based award more than it should be.

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Speaker 1: There's no replacement for watching the games. And if you're

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Speaker 1: watching the games, I mean, these writers just don't have

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Speaker 1: enough time to But if you're watching the games, Khalil

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Speaker 1: Mack would certainly be in your top two if he

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Speaker 1: got If he kept up this space, I think he'd

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Speaker 1: had a legit shot. The problem is this pace is outrageous.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he gets a forced fumble every week,

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Speaker 1: I think you'll do it. I think you'll get you'll

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Speaker 1: get it. Number one on the list. Yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: guess it. It's not Tom Brady because Tommy didn't make

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Speaker 1: the top ten. Number one, Patrick Mahomes. That was for

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Speaker 1: Uerica that I didn't read the article. When is the

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Speaker 1: last article you read on NFL dot com Your Brown's

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Speaker 1: Belichick article about oh okay o the Belichick one, not

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Speaker 1: the recent But no, I didn't. I tweeted about it

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Speaker 1: how great it was, but I didn't read it. I

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Speaker 1: do that all the time, so I really can't. Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: Uh and West you can give us. We've talked a

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Speaker 1: lot about Patrick Mahomes. Why is he number one? Well,

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Speaker 1: beyond the numbers, the way he's played, the style in

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Speaker 1: which he's played, the fact that Andy Reid, you know,

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Speaker 1: to his everlasting credit, had a perennial playoff contender with

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith, a guy who could run his offense, who

787
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Speaker 1: could be safe and conservative, which a lot of coaches like,

788
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: don't go out there and freelance, don't go out there

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Speaker 1: and mess up the game plan. Patrick Mahomes is out

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Speaker 1: there freelancing and doing it well as as a guy

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00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: who's only made five NFL starts, and then guys like

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00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: but Depre from the Steelers say, we really underestimated this

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Speaker 1: guy's pre snap intelligence. He was out there deciphering us

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Speaker 1: before the snap. He's doing all of that, plus the

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Speaker 1: put him in the Hall of fame. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes the leader, Everyone's leader for m VP, including

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Speaker 1: in Foxborough. What are your thoughts? I it's always when

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Speaker 1: I look at the schedule and they put these short

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Speaker 1: week games in New England, it's a double extra challenge

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Speaker 1: a year a first year head coach in Frank Reich,

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Speaker 1: you've got an outdual Bill Belichick, a Bill Belichick team

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Speaker 1: that gets Julian Edelman back, and I think we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get more snaps from Josh Gordon. Then what do you

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Speaker 1: have eighteen last week or something didn't do a whole

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Speaker 1: lot for them, and we'll find out a ut ronk

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Speaker 1: he's to wait and see. At this point, I trust

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Speaker 1: that he'll play. Um, although Greg, you do not. You

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Speaker 1: think he may not. We'll see. It's a it's a

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Speaker 1: short week and he hasn't practiced. I know they're saying

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Speaker 1: it's not a major ankle injury that's been reported, that's

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Speaker 1: been reported widely, But why why risk anything with Rob

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Speaker 1: Gronkowski's long term health. I think it's a smart week

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Speaker 1: to have him sit down because you need to win

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Speaker 1: because you're only two and two, and if he can play,

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Speaker 1: he plays, you get a long You gotta basically a

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Speaker 1: mini by if you can. If he's good enough to

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Speaker 1: suit up, I think they could use you know, you start,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, that's a well. The Patriots

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Speaker 1: are one of the teams that that generally air on

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Speaker 1: the side of caution in terms of they're going to

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Speaker 1: preserve their guys bodies if they can. I feel like

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Speaker 1: that's the approach the Vikings took when they got the

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Speaker 1: clocks flamed by the Bills. Oh, we don't really need

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook this week. Let's speak cautious. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that they would make the decision any differently against any team.

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Speaker 1: It's just the fact that it's a it's a Thursday

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Speaker 1: night game. Well, and you're it's a cult no t

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Speaker 1: Y Hilton. For the Cults, it's sounds like Jack Doyle.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like they are shorthanded in the passing game.

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00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: We already know what we think about their their run game.

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Speaker 1: Nice to have Robert Turban back, but Robert Turban is

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Speaker 1: not the second coming of Please and Zegel Elliott right here.

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Speaker 1: So it's like you got like twenty eight yards from

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Speaker 1: hid analysis, now you have no It's like, I just

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00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: think this watching them against the Texans. They can do

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Speaker 1: one thing, and it's throw the ball to a bunch

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Speaker 1: of no no namers outside of t Y Hilton. Can

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Speaker 1: you ask a question? Has Andrew Luck Patriots has never

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00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: been a close game. The average margin of victory since

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Speaker 1: Luck has played for the Colts is nineteen points in

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Speaker 1: the Patriots favorite So this is such a different Cults

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Speaker 1: tame in such a different Patriots team. If the Cults

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Speaker 1: were healthy, I think it would have been a lot

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Speaker 1: more interesting because the Patriots, But of course it won't be.

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Speaker 1: West was right that on paper last week was a

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Speaker 1: strange week and they're still working through things, but especially

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Speaker 1: seeing the Patriots offense against the Colts defense would have

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Speaker 1: been interesting. But they're They're also missing Quincy Wilson there

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Speaker 1: miss and Kenny Moore, probably their best two guys, you know.

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Speaker 1: But this is the first Colts defense since before the

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Speaker 1: Ryan Griggson era that has had a backbone. You can't

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Speaker 1: just line up and shove it down their throat. This year,

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Speaker 1: I think it could wind up being kind of an

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Speaker 1: ugly game where there's a little bit of grumbling just

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Speaker 1: because it's just because it's eighteen to ten going into

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Speaker 1: the fourth or something. I want to see the Patriots

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Speaker 1: offense get going. It's gonna be a lot of James White,

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Speaker 1: a lot of Sony Michelle. Trent Brown is really struggling

911
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: to protect Tom Brady. The Nate Soldier departure is starting

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00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: to come home to roost, and that's that's a big concern.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's not a huge one this week, but Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady is getting hit a lot, and Tom Brady is

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Speaker 1: not hitting any deep balls. He's statistics the worst, the

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Speaker 1: worst in the league hitting deep balls right now. Colts

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Speaker 1: had seven sacks last week and that came against the Texans,

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Speaker 1: so you can take a few off that, but they

919
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Speaker 1: are second only to the Bears and sacks and they

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Speaker 1: are leading the NFL and tackles for loss. There was

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Speaker 1: an old adage, which I know you were aware of, Greg,

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Speaker 1: that you would never bet against Peyton Manning and prime time.

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Speaker 1: He and Peyton Manning's heyday, he was a beast. Uh

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Speaker 1: Andrew Lucky struggled in prime time in his career, one

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Speaker 1: of his less six games the Cults of one. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really surprised, especially with them being shorthanded,

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Speaker 1: if they go in there and compete. A word in

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck's favor here we expressed quite a bit of

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Speaker 1: skepticism about his arm. Then he went through for a

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Speaker 1: career high with t Y Hilton on the sideline in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. He's got a comeback attempt, sense the

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Speaker 1: game to the last seconds with Zach Pascal, Marcus Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Chester Rogers, three undrafted receivers and a former basketball player

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Speaker 1: undrafted named mo Ali Cox. I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to hear any more Eli. I just don't don't

936
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Speaker 1: give me anymore especial Devi and Clowney here comes after him,

937
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Speaker 1: like if Andrew Luck can get four under sixty four

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Speaker 1: yards with an arm, that's not quite right. They weren't.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea why we're talking about Eli man

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like all the excuses that are constantly

941
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Speaker 1: made for Eli Manning and Andrew Luck did that. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I do think, as Mark mentioned, we'll see

943
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Speaker 1: more of Josh Gordon, and he made a big impact.

944
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Speaker 1: I feel I don't need that a little more excited

945
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Speaker 1: about Josh Gordon after these eighteen steps didn't play much that.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I don't that's great, Greg that you after.

947
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Speaker 1: Here's multiple Lombardi trophies that you're just walking around, one

948
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Speaker 1: in each arm. Erica is carrying the third. Now you're

949
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Speaker 1: getting to be excited about Joshuno there. But he made

950
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: of two tough catches. He drew a penalty, He also

951
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: drew as Xavian Howard, he broke a couple of tackles.

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Speaker 1: He made a huge block. In other words, He's a monstrous,

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Speaker 1: talented wide receiver. So I'm we're finally connecting the dots here. Well,

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen that in a long time. Real, this

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Speaker 1: guy is from another You talk about someone else being

956
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Speaker 1: in an alien Alvin Kamara, Josh Gordon when he's healthy

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Speaker 1: and good, is unstoppable and you got him for nothing?

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Speaker 1: How about that? Eli Manning? Though, I mean, this is

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00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: this is so predictable. Let's get ups. I got seventeen

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Speaker 1: Pats in this game. What do you guys got I

961
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Speaker 1: don't think the Pets score that many points. I'll say

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Speaker 1: twenty four Pats. I'll go twenty. I like what I

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Speaker 1: saw out of the Pats defense, especially at home. Good stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll recap this game. No one's locking up

965
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Speaker 1: the Patriots this week, I would suggest not, but listen,

966
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Speaker 1: it's a mirror check, that's all. Just look in the mirror.

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Speaker 1: None of us have I never think about locking this

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Speaker 1: early in the week, So there, none of us do.

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Speaker 1: Except I did it with the Browns two weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: so none of us. Not accurate, I said I never day.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's let's send this podcast where a fight

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Speaker 1: breaks out. Uh, we will be back tomorrow. Night with

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Speaker 1: a recap of the game we just previewed, and then

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Speaker 1: a preview of all the rest of the week five games.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do. And again if you have not,

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Speaker 1: if you're not watching our Twitter show, we're having quite

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun over there. So the video show

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Speaker 1: on the around the NFL Twitter page. So make sure

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Speaker 1: you check it out, give it again under Gander's people

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Speaker 1: you like it for look at it, to peer at

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Speaker 1: to look yes, thank you. All right, let's go. Stan

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Speaker 1: ads is signing off for the Quiet Storm, the mail Man,

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