1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: We begin with the first major winter storm to hit 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: the East Coast so far this season. Let's get the 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: very latest on that with Bloomberg meteorologist Rob Carol and 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Rob Nathan. 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 3: The weekend storm is going to be worse to the 9 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: north and west of the district in Baltimore, and also 10 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: north and west of New York City and north and 11 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: west of Boston. The major cities are going to see 12 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: some mixing with rain that that's going to hold down 13 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: the accumulations. But it's the areas to the north and 14 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: west that are going to do quite well where it 15 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 3: stays all snow. Three to five inches possible north and 16 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 3: west of the district in Baltimore, while north and west 17 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: of New York City as much as five to eight 18 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: inches will fall. We could see as much as five 19 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: to ten inches of snow north and west of Boston 20 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: during the storm. 21 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Okay, Rob, So when do you expect this wintry weather 22 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: is going to end. 23 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: Storm's going to wind down during the evening and overnight 24 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: hours in the district in Baltimore. In New York city. 25 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: It comes to an end Sunday afternoon the Boston area. 26 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: I will see it ending late Sunday night early Monday morning, 27 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: and we should see quite a bit of an improvement 28 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: weatherwise into Monday of next week. 29 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: Okay, Rob, Carolyn, thanks for that. We'll be checking back 30 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,639 Speaker 1: with you for more on this East coast winter storm 31 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: throughout the day. 32 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: Mowe now turned to the crucial jobs are poored for 33 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: the month of December. Nathan It's forecast a show one 34 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five thousand jobs were added a last month, 35 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: and we get more from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 36 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: Wall Street goes into today's jobs report expecting strength in 37 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: hiring and wages. That was not what the Fed was 38 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: expecting a few months ago. The central bankers want job 39 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: growth of about one hundred thousand a month and unemployment 40 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: in the fours to signal an easing of labor market 41 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 4: inflation pressures. Instead, they're likely to get a continuing conundrum, 42 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: a strong labor market but falling inflation, making it hard 43 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 4: to know the best path for interest rates. They will 44 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: probably focus on the composition of jobs. Some analysts say 45 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 4: job growth should be concentrated in low wage sectors like healthcare, 46 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 4: assistants and restaurants, and that will be the sign the 47 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 4: Fed wants that the economy is slowing. McKee, Bloomberg Radio. 48 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: All right, Mike, thanks for the options market. It's been 49 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: a buzz ahead of the jobs report. There is a 50 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: large parish wager underway on yields rising to four point 51 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: one five percent by the end of the day. That 52 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: would mark the biggest one day rise in tenure yields 53 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: since late March. It would be a further retrenchment for 54 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: treasuries following last year's furious two month rally. In checking 55 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: the tenure right now, it is at four point zero 56 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: three percent. 57 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: Well, Nathan. 58 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: Rates are also in focus overseas. Traders are pairing bets 59 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: on cuts from the European Central Bank. Let's go to 60 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: London and get the latest from Bloomberg's Ewen pots Hore Youwen. 61 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 5: Karen, and Nathan. It's the first time since mid December 62 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 5: that traders are betting on fewer than six quarter point 63 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 5: rate reductions from the ECB. At the end of last year, 64 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 5: the market was pricing as much as one hundred and 65 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 5: seventy four basis points of cuts. That number has now 66 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: slipped blow one hundred and fifty basis points and key 67 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 5: data this morning, shining more lights on the inflation pitcher. 68 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 5: You're area CPI coming in at two point nine percent 69 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 5: in the year to December. That's a higher number than 70 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 5: the previous month as energy subsidies expire in a number 71 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 5: of countries. In London, you and pot Splomberg Radio. 72 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: All right, you and thank you. Now we turned to 73 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: the latest developments in the Middle East. Secretary of State 74 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: Antony Blincoln is returning to the region, his fourth trip 75 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: since the October seventh attack on Israel. Bloomberg Zamie Morris 76 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: reports from Washington. 77 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 6: There is a risk the war between Israel and Hamas 78 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 6: can spread into a broader regional conflict. This trip is 79 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 6: part of US efforts to prevent that. Secretary Blincoln will 80 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 6: travel to Turkey, Jordan, Cotter, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, 81 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 6: and Israel. State Department spokesman Matthew Miller says they don't 82 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 6: expect some of these conversations to be easy. 83 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 7: We want to prevent the conflict from spreading, but part 84 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 7: of that means that people need to stop taking strikes 85 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 7: against our soldiers, and if they take strikes against our soldiers, 86 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 7: we're going to do what we need to protect ourselves. 87 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 6: Groups backed by Iran have escalated attacks across Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, 88 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 6: and Yemen and armed forces in a rocker also warning 89 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 6: of a quote dangerous escalation after a US right killed 90 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 6: a senior commander in an Iran backed militia in Washington, 91 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 6: Amy Morris, Bloomberg Radio. 92 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: All right, Amy, thanks. Meanwhile, the Islamic State group has 93 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: claimed responsibility for the two explosions that killed almost one 94 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: hundred people in Iran. The attacks risked inflaming tensions further 95 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: in the Middle East, with Iran saying it had been 96 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: targeted because of its stands on Israel. Bloomberg Henry Meyer 97 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: looks at the impact of the Islamic State taking responsibility 98 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: for the attacks. 99 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 8: It's significant in the sense that it reduces the risks 100 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 8: of a more confrontation between Israel and Iran. Iran had 101 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 8: said that the bloss with the work of people who 102 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 8: were trying to punish it for its stance on the 103 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 8: Israeli offensive in Gaza. And you know, obviously any suspicion 104 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 8: of Israeli involvement could have proved extremely explosive. 105 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: And Bloomberg Henry Meyer notes US officials said from the 106 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,559 Speaker 2: start the attacks had the hallmark of a group such 107 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 2: as Islamic State. 108 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: Back here in the US, Karen, there's more fallout over 109 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: the resignation of former Harvard president Claudine Gay. The Reverend 110 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: Al sharped and led a protest at Bill Ackman's Manhattan 111 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: offices yesterday. The civil rights activist says the billionaire investors 112 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: campaign against Gay is a blow to the diversity, equity 113 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: and inclusion movement. Gay stepped down as Harvard's first black 114 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: president this week in a backlash over her handling of 115 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: campus antisemitism and accusations of plagiarism. 116 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: Meantime, Nathan Business Insider is reporting Bill Lackman's wife, Nary Auxman, 117 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: plagiarized multiple sections of her doctoral dissertation at MIT. Acman 118 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: responded to the report in a post on X, writing, 119 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: you know you struck a chord when they go after 120 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: your wife. Time now for a look at some of 121 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: the other stories making news around the world. For that, 122 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: we're joined by Bloomberg's Amy Morris. Amy, Good morning, Good morning, Karen. 123 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 6: Residents in the small town of Perry, Iowa, held a 124 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 6: vigil last night, hours after a gunman opened fire at 125 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 6: the local high school, killing a sixth grader and wounding 126 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 6: four other students in the school's principal, Andrea Meyer, is 127 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 6: a two thousand and four alumna at the school, and 128 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 6: she spoke at last night's vigil green rally around our survivors, 129 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 6: our community, our teachers, our first responders, and we're going 130 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 6: to show them what we've shown them every day for 131 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 6: as long as I have. 132 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 9: Known that we appreciate them, enjoy them, respect them, and 133 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 9: dare I say love them. 134 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 6: The suspect, identified as seventeen year old Dylan Butler, a 135 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 6: student at Perry High School, also died of an apparent 136 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 6: self inflicted gunshot wound. Classes are canceled throughout the school 137 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 6: district for today. Florida Governor Ronda Santis and former UN 138 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 6: Ambassador Nicky Haley held back to back CNN town halls 139 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 6: in Iowa last night as they fight to be primary 140 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 6: GOP presidential challenger to Donald Trump, who already has a 141 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 6: huge lead in the polls. DeSantis called Haley a phony 142 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 6: who is quote playing for voters who are not even 143 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 6: core Republicans. I'm the only one that has a chance 144 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 6: to beat Trump and win the general election. 145 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: Nicki Haley can't get conservative voters. She's the darling of 146 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: the never trumpers. 147 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 6: While in New Hampshire, Nikki Haley said of the primary process, quote, 148 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 6: Iowa starts at New Hampshire corrects it. So she responded 149 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 6: to criticism about that comment during CNN's town hall in Iowa. 150 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: We're going to continue to be here. 151 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I've told people get used to this face, 152 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: and I've been here. 153 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 10: Over and over again. 154 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: But if I didn't love Iowa, I wouldn't keep coming 155 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: to Iowa. 156 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 6: While they did take jabs at each other, Haley and 157 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 6: Desantas also focused their attacks on front runner Donald Trump, 158 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 6: and next week will be a busy one for Trump. 159 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 6: Bloomberg's Nancy Lyons. 160 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 10: Reports Donald Trump has two major court hearings next week. 161 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 10: One of them is in Washington on his claim of 162 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 10: immunity from charges he overturned the twenty twenty election that's 163 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 10: set for January ninth, Then two days later, planning to 164 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 10: attend the closing arguments in Manhattan that's for the New 165 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 10: York civil trial against him and his sprawling real estate company. 166 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 10: Days after that, the nominating process begins with the January 167 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 10: fifteenth Iowa CAUCUSUS. Then a day after that, a civil 168 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 10: defamation case against Trump begins in New York in which 169 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 10: Ejing Carroll is seeking to million dollars in damages. It's 170 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 10: unknown if Trump will be attending that trial in Washington. 171 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 10: Nancy lyons Bloomberg Radio Global. 172 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 6: News twenty four hours a day and whenever you want 173 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 6: it with Bloomberg News Now. I'm Amy Morris, and this 174 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 6: is Bloomberg Karen. 175 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: All right, Amy, thanks soby to bring in news throughout 176 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: the day right here on Bloomberg Radio. But now, as 177 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: Amy said, you can get the latest news on demand 178 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: whenever you want it. Subscribe to Bloomberg News Now. You 179 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: can get the latest headlines right at the click of 180 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: a button. Get informed on your schedule. You can listen 181 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: and subscribe to Bloomberg News Now on the Bloomberg Business 182 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: app Bloomberg dot Com, but also apples, Spotify, and anywhere 183 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: else you get your podcasts. Time now for the Bloomberg 184 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: Sports update. Here's John stash Hour John Karn. 185 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 11: What a game in San Francisco, battle of the last 186 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 11: two NBA champions. The Warriors had an eighteen point lead 187 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 11: on the fourth quarter on the Nuggets, and then Denver 188 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 11: closed the game on a twenty five to four run 189 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 11: and he won at one thirty to one twenty seven 190 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 11: thanks to Kolo Jokins thirty four points, ten assists, nine rebounds. 191 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 11: He hit the game tying shot and then after a 192 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 11: Steph Curry turnover, he hit the game winner, a forty 193 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 11: footer that he banked in at the buzzer. Milwaukee won 194 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 11: at San Antonio won twenty five to one twenty one. 195 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 11: This was the first time that Jannis, sent to the 196 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 11: Compo won against the guy that many field plays like, 197 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 11: Giannis Victor Wembinama. Yanna scored forty four points. Wem bin 198 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 11: Yama scored twenty seven. Ricky Rubio, retiring at age thirty three, 199 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 11: twelve years and the NBA, played for four teams, most 200 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 11: recently Cleveland, who bought out his contract. He was a 201 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 11: professional player in Spain at the age of fourteen. Bruins 202 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 11: lost at home to Pittsburgh six to five. Sydney Crosby 203 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 11: wont it for the Penguin the power play goal in 204 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 11: the third period. The Red Sox traded Chris Sale to Atlanta. 205 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 11: He just got a two year extension with the Braves 206 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 11: for thirty eight million dollars, despite all the injuries he's 207 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 11: had in recent years. Week eighteen in the NFL starts tomorrow. 208 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 11: Nine teams have Clint playoff spots. Five spots still up 209 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 11: for drafts. Buffalo, Jacksonville, Tampa Bay, and Green Bay are 210 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 11: in with Week eighteen victories. The winner tomorrow night, patried Houston, 211 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 11: and Indianapolis is in the playoffs. Pittsburgh tomorrow needs a 212 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 11: win and then a Buffalo loss on Sunday night. John 213 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 11: Stashwer Bloomberg Sports. 214 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: From coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 215 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Syrias Exam. 216 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: The Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. This is 217 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 218 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 6: Well. 219 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: The first weekend of twenty twenty four is going to 220 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: bring the East Coast the first major winter storm we've 221 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: seen in quite a while, actually, so let's bring in 222 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg beedrologist Rob Carolyn to help us get set for 223 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: what's coming. What you're looking at, Rob, the first accumulating 224 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: snow of the season for lots of us. 225 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 3: It's taken a time for winter to get going, but 226 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: it's going to get going now with Gangbusters Nathan storm 227 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 3: coming out of the lower Mississippi River Valley is going 228 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: to come up the along the East coast during the weekend, 229 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: and it's going to bring us eisenble snowfall to many 230 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: of the suburban locations around the major cities in the 231 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 3: mid Atlantic and Northeast. This isn't a huge snowstorm for 232 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: the District of Baltimore, for New York City or Boston 233 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: because the ocean is still fairly warm water temperatures than 234 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: in the forties. That influence is going to mean that 235 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: we see Boston and New York City, and especially Washington 236 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 3: and Baltimore mixing with and changing the rain at times. 237 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 3: But once you get inland away from that influence to 238 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: the ocean, there's going to be some sizeable snowfalls from 239 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: say Frederick, Maryland, all the way on up through the 240 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: suburbs north and west of New York City, and then 241 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: well north and west of Boston. There could be some 242 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: spots to get over ten inches of snow from this storm. 243 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: No kidding. So, like you said, it's been a while 244 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: since we've had a major winter storm along the East coast. 245 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean, or are we ready for this? I think 246 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: we're ready. I mean we've had a lot of practice. 247 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: Anybody over the age of fifteen has seen, you know, 248 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: a number of snowstorms in their lifetime. But yeah, last winter, 249 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: I think the deepest snow we saw in the Boston 250 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 3: area was like three and a half inches in February. 251 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 3: So I think the big problem is going to be 252 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: pe will not used to driving in it because it's 253 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: been over a year. The good news is it's falling 254 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: on a Saturday night and a Sunday in many areas, 255 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: so their traffic won't be as bad. We don't have 256 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: school in session, so that'll be helpful. But people are 257 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: definitely going to have to take some time, particularly in 258 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: those areas where there's going to be that transition from 259 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 3: a mixture of rain and snow to snow, because that 260 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: snow will be heavier and wetter. Therefore it's more slippery, 261 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: it's greasy. So those areas just north and west of Boston, 262 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: New York City, Washington, and Baltimore really need to be 263 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 3: careful when the precipitation's falling during Saturday afternoon through Sunday. 264 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people who live along the Interstate 265 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: ninety five quarriter know that that freeway is often right 266 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: along the boundary between where rain and snow happens. I mean, 267 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: if this system sticks around for a little bit longer 268 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: than expected, could we be in for a pretty dicey 269 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: Monday morning commute. 270 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 3: I think Monday morning is going to be okay, particularly 271 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: in the district in Baltimore, because it dries out Sunday afternoon, 272 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: So I think the roadways are going to be okay. 273 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: York City Boston different story. Those areas where they don't 274 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: get a chance to clean up the slush along the 275 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: I ninety five corridor. Temperatures are going to be going 276 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: down Sunday night, and that's going to have the tendency 277 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: allow those surfaces to refree. So it could be a 278 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 3: little bit more dicey New York City on up in 279 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: the Boston Monday than it is around the district in 280 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 3: Baltimore since it. 281 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: Is on the weekend. We think in good skiing. 282 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: Well, you know, the ski areas in northern New England 283 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: and northern New York State really aren't going to see 284 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: much from this storm. At all too far out to see. 285 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: It'll be cold enough so they can make some snow. 286 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: Where this is going to help out is the resorts 287 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: in West Virginia and on up into Pennsylvania. They'll do 288 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: fairly well. The Poconos are going to do great. This 289 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: is going to be their best snowfall in a while, 290 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: and they'll have real good conditions come Monday and Tuesday 291 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: in the Poconos. But for northern New England northern New 292 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: York State, I think the snowfall amounts are probably going 293 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 3: to be under two inches. 294 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: Well anyway, I guess this couldn't have come in a 295 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: better time, happening on the weekend. But thanks for this, Rob. Again, 296 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: that was Bloomberg meteorologist Rob Carolyn getting us ready for 297 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: the first winter storm for the East Coast of twenty 298 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: twenty four. Well, let's move on from watching the weather 299 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: to watching the data. Investors have their eyes out for 300 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: the last look at the US labor market in twenty 301 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: twenty three with the December non farm payrolls report. Do 302 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: out an eight thirty am Wall Street time here to 303 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: get a set for those numbers. Simon French, chief economist 304 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: at panmir Gordon Simon. Great to speak with you this morning. Now, 305 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: the consensus on the Bloomberg terminal, it calls for more moderation, 306 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five thousand new jobs expected, a 307 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: tick up for the unemployment rate to three point eight percent. 308 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: What's your expectation, I think. 309 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 9: A little bit stronger. Good morning, Nathan. I think the 310 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 9: big question for me is US labor market participation appeared 311 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 9: to peak during the summer and come back down, but 312 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 9: there's conflicting data points as to whether that labor supply 313 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 9: pictures is true. And if we start a season more 314 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 9: people coming back into the labor market, I think there's 315 00:14:54,320 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 9: potential to still add more jobs than than that estimate. Yes, 316 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 9: I think the big influence though for futures on interest 317 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 9: rate expectations will be the unemployment rate rather than the 318 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 9: number of jobs added, and that I think when you're 319 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 9: looking at the kind of rules of thumb we sort 320 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 9: of saw the Federal Reserve and moved to in their 321 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 9: recent minutes, anything three point eight three point nine will 322 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 9: start to firm expectations of the rate cutting cycle this 323 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 9: side of the mid year. 324 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of talk about four percent potentially 325 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: being the trigger point for the Federal Reserve to think 326 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: about cutting interest rates further. Could we see an upside surprise? 327 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: What's the potential for that? 328 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 9: Well, I think four percent is being focused in on 329 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 9: by a lot of analysts because of the Palm rule. 330 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 9: This is the if you like, the equivalent in the 331 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 9: labor market for what we know in the bondom market 332 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 9: from a Yeald curb and version is a decent signal 333 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 9: of a recession. The Psalm rule looking at er point 334 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 9: five five percent increase on the twelve month low point 335 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 9: for unemployment, and that would something like four percent would 336 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 9: take you there, But you have to get there on 337 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 9: a three month average, and we're not going to get 338 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 9: that even if we get that print today. But what 339 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 9: it would do is it would suggest that by February, 340 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 9: the time of the February report, you potentially hit that 341 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 9: farm or threshold, which could prepare the ground for rate 342 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 9: cutting cycling Q two. So that is why I think 343 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 9: analysts are focusing on four percent. 344 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: Of course, we're going to be keeping an eye out 345 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: for average hourly earnings as well. Labor force participation feeds 346 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: into that as well. Where do you see wages going 347 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: If we find evidence that companies are holding on to employees, 348 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: or perhaps more people are coming off the sidelines. 349 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, so I think there's I think one of the 350 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 9: failures actually of the economics profession in the last couple 351 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 9: of years, it's been an inability to recognize that nominal 352 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 9: pay awards take their queue from overall price inflation, and 353 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 9: therefore I think the helpful price dynamics from gasoline prices, 354 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 9: from overall prices coming down in the US economy or 355 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 9: the rate of increase coming down, should ever a spillover 356 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 9: effect into nominal wage awards. I think there's an over focus, 357 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 9: perhaps two model driven from the way central banks model 358 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 9: this stuff to look purely at participation in capacity rather 359 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 9: than the signals coming from the overall price level. So 360 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 9: I actually expect a continued moderation in nominal pay awards. 361 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: With the quits rate and job openings falling as well. 362 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: What does that tell us, Simon about the state of 363 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: the US economy. Are you still thinking that we could 364 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: be in for a soft landing given where labor dynamics 365 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: are right now? 366 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 9: Nathan, I think you know I'm not a fan particularly 367 00:17:54,560 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 9: of the soft landing hard landing descriptor, mainly because lists. Economists, 368 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 9: they tend to define it that they see fits reverse 369 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 9: fit their narrative. But if you're looking at a moderation 370 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 9: of those jolt data points on quits on hires from 371 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 9: some very very extreme levels and a moderation without overshooting, 372 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 9: then actually that's the message we got from the Joltz 373 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 9: data I felt, which is you are starting to hone 374 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 9: in on more normalized levels of labor market churn, and 375 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 9: that has to be a positive thing, whether it's a 376 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 9: soft landing or hard landing in terms of the hard 377 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 9: data of economic activity pass but on those metrics, it's 378 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 9: quite encouraging. From the Federal Reserve, they've been able to 379 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 9: engineer this. 380 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of activity in the options market 381 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: ahead of this report, a pretty big bet that we 382 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: could see ten year yields rise more than ten basis 383 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: points by the end of the day. What kind of 384 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: volatility are you expecting off the back of this jobs 385 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: report in the bond mar. 386 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 9: So, I think that's that would be my whether it's 387 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 9: an hourly end of day expectation, some more medium term 388 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 9: view from my perspective is the bomb mark has got 389 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 9: over excited by the pace of potential rate cups. In 390 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 9: my view, I think pricing in five to six for 391 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 9: the year when it's unlikely the first pirmacy you're going 392 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 9: to have enough data to start cutting before the middle 393 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 9: towards the back end of Q two, that becomes a 394 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 9: really difficult thing to do with only four better reserve 395 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 9: meetings in the second half of the year. So I 396 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 9: think that expectation that you allude to of slightly firming 397 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 9: yield is consistent with perhaps a reassessment of quite how 398 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 9: aggressive the FED can be in the data have in 399 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 9: front of them. 400 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: Got about a minute left here, Simon. Not only is 401 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: the FED going to be focused on the labor market, 402 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: but we've got inflation data, more inflation data coming out 403 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: next week as well. 404 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 9: Well. 405 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: What's your expectation on where we could see consumer prices headed. 406 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 9: Well, a lot of the base effects that have been 407 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 9: driving US inflation lower over the last twelve months, and 408 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 9: this is simply some very exceptional numbers leaving leaving the 409 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 9: annual comparison. That does mean we're in for a period 410 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 9: where the data is going to bounce around in a 411 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 9: sort of stubborn stubborn range around three percent. And the question, 412 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 9: I guess the Federal Reserve need to ask themselves not 413 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 9: all just based on the data, but their understanding of 414 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 9: how price setting is going on at district level as well. 415 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 9: Is the degree to which that can over an eighteen 416 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 9: month two year of you moderate back towards two percent 417 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 9: of their central forecast suggest But actually the real economy 418 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 9: is not necessarily showing those signs. 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