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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here

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Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitale. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: With Carmee and me.

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Speaker 4: We're on a good one, you guys. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 4: let you know.

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Speaker 2: We left the car in a full dance party. Sure,

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Speaker 2: we let the beat drop. We were like, we were

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Speaker 2: listening to Caigo Radio on the way in and we

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Speaker 2: stayed in the car for an extra minute.

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Speaker 4: To just like fully bang and everything. I'm so ready.

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Speaker 2: I am so ready for today, and I'm so thankful

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Speaker 2: that you guys are hanging out with us.

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Speaker 4: Also, happy summer of soccer.

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Speaker 2: Euros cacked off yesterday on Fox Spain beat Croatia. This

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Speaker 2: morning we have Italy against Albania on right now. It's

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Speaker 2: not up on the screen, but I think it was

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Speaker 2: two to one last time I checked one.

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Speaker 4: What did you halftime? There we go?

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Speaker 3: That's why?

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Speaker 4: What did you just tell me? Please? Carmen just had

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Speaker 4: the most hilarious thing.

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Speaker 5: Apparently ahead of this match outside of the stadium. Albanian

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Speaker 5: fans snapped a bunch of spaghetti in front of the

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Speaker 5: Italian fans what.

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Speaker 3: Italians were just like on their knees. It was the funniest,

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Speaker 3: funniest video.

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Speaker 4: It's so a family see Italian discrimination. Yeah no, that's hilarious.

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Speaker 4: We a family.

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Speaker 2: Friend is Sean Peck and the childhood actor from Nickelodeon,

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Speaker 2: and he does these videos where he'll like take a burrito,

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Speaker 2: take a bite out of the middle and be like,

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Speaker 2: how are you now? How's your day now? And this

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Speaker 2: is like one of those things.

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Speaker 3: It's going up to an Italian act.

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Speaker 4: Snap, snap, how about now? How are you feeling that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my heart breaks along.

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Speaker 3: With I love it so much.

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Speaker 4: Copa America starts next week on Thoughts.

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Speaker 2: It is just you guys it we're on the lot

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Speaker 2: as well as here at the radio station. It is

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Speaker 2: madness for summer of soccer over there. Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 2: am so excited. Uh yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 4: The news desk. But let's talk some money, you guys.

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Speaker 2: Our first big quarterback contract during minicamp was signed. The

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Speaker 2: Jags made Trevor Lawrence the highest paid quarterback per year

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Speaker 2: with Joe Burrow now with a five year, two hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy five million dollar extension with.

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Speaker 2: Now you do need to remember this doesn't kick in

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Speaker 2: for two years until twenty twenty six, when the quarterback

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Speaker 2: this was a smart move for the Jags. For that reason,

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Speaker 2: they know they're not moving off of Trevor Lawrence. This

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Speaker 2: is their guy, and as we've seen, the price for

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks keep going up with each contract. So let's take

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Speaker 2: a look real quick of where he's ranked, right, because

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Speaker 2: he is now tied for the highest paid Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow tied at one with fifty five million a year,

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff fifty three million a year at number four,

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert fifty two point five million a year, Lamar

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Speaker 2: Jackson at five at fifty two million dollars dollars a year,

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Speaker 2: and at six Jalen Hurts at fifty one million dollars

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Speaker 4: Now, none of.

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Speaker 2: These top paid six quarterbacks have won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Three of them have been to a Super Bowl, but Burrough, Goffen,

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Speaker 2: The best quarterback in the league is not even in

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Speaker 2: the top eight highest paid quarterbacks. Patrick Mahomes is ninth

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Speaker 2: on that list. A three time Super Bowl champ, two

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Speaker 2: time MVPID three times, Super Bowl MVP. Now, I will

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Speaker 2: never be mad at a player for getting paid, Like,

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Speaker 2: you have a very limited window of opportunity as an athlete,

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Speaker 2: especially as a football player. The average football career is

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Speaker 2: that includes everybody is like four and a half. So

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Speaker 2: when you have the opportunity to capitalize on this, you

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Speaker 2: have to take it. And Trevor Lawrence got lucky that

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Speaker 2: the quarter back market is where it is right now. Now,

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Speaker 2: in case you need reminding, quarterback is the most important

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Speaker 2: position on these million billion dollar franchises. So at some point,

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Speaker 2: if you believe this is your guy, you're going to

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Speaker 2: have to pay him.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: Should he be the highest paid quarterback in the league? Eh?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 5: Eh, He's only going to be the highest paid quarterback

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Speaker 5: for like, I don't know, yeah, anywhere from two months

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Speaker 5: to six months. And this contract is going to look great.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna look amazing. I mean it's crazy though, because

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Speaker 2: like he's had sixty turnovers in his first three seasons,

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Speaker 2: twenty three. But you know what, good for Trevor, Now

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Speaker 2: go and prove that you deserve this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And here's the thing about Trevor Lawrence also, yeah, is

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Speaker 5: that you know from all this discourse about Kayla Williams,

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Speaker 5: I am not a fan of assigning anyone the generational

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Speaker 4: The NFL football. He kind of got that too, kinda.

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Speaker 3: He absolutely did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this was a guy that was supposed to be

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Speaker 5: generationally because of what he did at Clemson. And that's true,

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Speaker 5: he had a wonderful college career. But the blast quarterback

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Speaker 5: I felt comfortable using the turn generational for was Andrew

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Speaker 4: And then he bailed before he was thirty.

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Speaker 5: Hey, listen, I'm not mad Andrew Luck. He played everything

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Speaker 5: to a tea. That man deserves all the flowers. But

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Speaker 5: here's the thing, by any other Staders, if we hadn't

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Speaker 5: had that bar of expectations set so high for Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 5: this is a guy, a twenty four year old by

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Speaker 3: It's made the Pro Bowl twice. He took the Jacks

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Speaker 5: He has engineered five comebacks, six game winning drives. And

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Speaker 5: for context, Lamar Jackson, who has played twice as long

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Speaker 5: as Trevor Lawrence his six years compared to Trevor's three,

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Speaker 5: He's had eight comebacks and ten game winning drives. And

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Speaker 5: we think of Lamar Jackson as one of those clutch quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: He's got two MVPs under.

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Speaker 4: His belt during the regular season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, deserve, But like that's what I'm saying is like

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Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence is on that same track when it comes

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Speaker 5: to clutch time. Some of these like advanced metrics or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I am not Obviously, the Jacksonville Jaguars

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Speaker 4: To and they've never had their guy.

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Speaker 2: They've never really had their guy, and now they're finally relevant.

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Speaker 4: You cannot let him go. You had to pay him.

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Speaker 5: No, because the flip side is what like, that's what

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Speaker 5: I like all of these conversations. We need to get

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Speaker 5: it out of our heads that only elite quarterbacks get

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Speaker 5: who signed the latest contract it gets his money if

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Speaker 5: you are seen as a franchise player. So whether or

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Speaker 5: not you think Trevor Lawrence should be a franchise quarterback

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Speaker 5: is irrelevant because the Jackie and Jaguars think that.

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Speaker 4: He and he is.

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Speaker 5: He is the franchise quarterback. Jacksonville Jaguars have made him

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Speaker 5: a franchise quarterback. So your opinion on Trevor Lawrence is

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Speaker 5: completely irrelevant. And I'm saying the collective you, not you,

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Speaker 5: the collective you like, I'm like, all right.

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Speaker 4: Come out we getting spicy today.

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Speaker 5: Come out with me, bro, not you collective you. All

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Speaker 5: these people that are arguing against like what has he done.

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Speaker 5: He's got the same stats as Danie Jones, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 3: I don't care. The Jacksonville Jaguars have said this is

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Speaker 3: our guy. And so in that sense, like you said,

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Speaker 3: you need to pay him sooner rather than later because

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Speaker 3: that price is only going in two years.

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Speaker 2: This doesn't kick in for two years. Can you imagine

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Speaker 2: where this is going to be. It's gonna be at

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Speaker 2: least ten probably ten million dollars more.

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Speaker 3: Well, and you locked Trevor Lawrence up.

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Speaker 5: Now you have him under contract for the next seven

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Speaker 5: years until this man is thirty.

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Speaker 4: One years old.

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Speaker 5: That the longer this contract goes on, yeah, the more

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Speaker 4: They're seeing with Patrick Mahomes exactly.

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Speaker 5: And because you have this length of a contract with

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Speaker 5: which is again why Patrick Mahomes signed a ten year deal.

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mallomes is going to see every bit of that

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Speaker 5: five hundred million dollars. Oh yeah, And so that's why, yes,

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Speaker 5: it looks team friendly from like an average sense, but

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Speaker 5: like you have to think about, like is this quarterback

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Speaker 5: going to get that amount of money and Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 5: is going to get every sin of that, oh eventually, and.

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Speaker 4: He deserves all that and more, probably doesn't.

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Speaker 5: It gives the Kansas City Chiefs flexibility when it comes

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Speaker 5: to Patrick Mahomes's cap hit so that he didn't.

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Speaker 4: Have to hit the cap What did Cynthia call it?

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Speaker 4: Creative accounting?

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Speaker 3: Creative accounting, that's what this is.

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Speaker 4: That's all what this is.

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Speaker 5: You can leverage, you know, certain years in the contract,

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Speaker 5: you can push money down the line, you can do

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Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff if you need to because

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Speaker 5: you're getting close and you want to make these playoff

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Speaker 5: pushes and all that other stuff. So I am love

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Speaker 5: the fact that Trevor Lawrence signed this deal. I love

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Speaker 5: the fact that the Jags signed Treylor Lawrence to this

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Speaker 5: deal because again, he's twenty four years old. He's had

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Speaker 5: a good, not great start to his career, but he's

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Speaker 5: still an above average quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Being improvements each year.

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Speaker 2: Also, he went into like a dumpster fire situation and

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Speaker 2: franchise Jack's had.

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Speaker 3: Back to back first round picks. Yeah, like, what.

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Speaker 4: Is the reason right for a team in the league

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Speaker 5: Again, he took them to the playoffs in his second year,

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Speaker 5: and I'm not one to advocate for wins being a

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Speaker 5: quarterback stat they're not a quarterback stack, but he's been

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Speaker 5: Organizational failure on behalf of the Cowboys in the postseason

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Speaker 3: How do you pin the failures.

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Speaker 5: Of an entire franchise on one man on the field? Listen,

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Speaker 5: can Dak play better in the postseason? He absolutely can,

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Speaker 5: And CD can be that for Dak, has been that

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Speaker 3: That is the floor for Dak Prescott. He will get

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Speaker 2: Luca and the MAVs finally woke up last night in

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Speaker 2: is in the finals right now.

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Speaker 4: That can't happen. No, that cannot happen.

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Speaker 2: That was an embarrassing moment and situation for Luca in

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Speaker 2: game three.

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Speaker 4: But what matters. You can't look back at the past.

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Speaker 2: You got to look at how he responds, because all

448
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Speaker 2: you can control is how you react to an unfortunate situation,

449
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Speaker 2: which was his fault in game three, and he did.

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Speaker 2: Look what he did. He took responsibility and he even

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Speaker 2: said after the game that was on me. I need

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Speaker 2: to get back to having fun, and he did. They

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Speaker 2: came out and they absolutely dominated and.

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Speaker 4: Moss pulled their starters in the third quarter like.

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Speaker 5: Well, and what was most impressive though, is that that

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Speaker 5: frustration was then channeled into the defense that Luca showed

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Speaker 5: finally because he forced missus on Boston's first six attempts

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Speaker 5: with him as the primary defender. Yeah, he forced Drew

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Speaker 5: Holliday into four eternal Yeah, where Drew Holliday hadn't had

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Speaker 5: a single turnover in this theories up until that point.

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Speaker 5: That is what you needed to see because you need

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Speaker 5: to see an all around game from Luca. You needed

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Speaker 5: him not to be a liability on defense, and you

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Speaker 5: also needed to see guys like Kyrie step.

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Speaker 3: Up and help him.

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Speaker 5: He did, and I mean they were I had to

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Speaker 5: commend the maps just in general because of the fact

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Speaker 5: that they were so aggressive in the paint. Yeah, but

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Speaker 5: then also made it back to play.

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Speaker 2: They played defense. They played defense for the first time

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Speaker 2: this series. That's what happened mass play defense. Did you

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Speaker 2: see the really cute video after the game of Luca

473
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Speaker 2: and Kyrie's dad like shaking hands and like holding hands

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Speaker 2: and like touching heads and like celebrating together.

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Speaker 4: It was it was it was really cute.

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Speaker 2: Like you could tell there was just an energy shift

477
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Speaker 2: within not only like within the building, but like.

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Speaker 5: And that it was even if it was just like a, hey, guys,

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Speaker 5: we can't get swept. No, Like, even if it was

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Speaker 5: just that, like, hey, we're probably not going to come

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Speaker 5: back in this series, because I don't think they're going to.

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Speaker 5: But we're not going to go out like this. We're

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Speaker 5: not going to go out on a sweep. Yeah, We're

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Speaker 5: going to at least put up a fight. And if

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Speaker 5: that is what rallied the troop and that is all

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Speaker 5: that the MAVs can muster, I.

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Speaker 3: Guess that's enough.

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Speaker 1: Yaah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it would be insane for the Celtics. We'll

490
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Speaker 5: squander a three to zero lead in a series, which

491
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Speaker 5: has never been.

492
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Speaker 2: Done in every finals now, There's never been a comeback

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Speaker 2: from being a three in a series to win the

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Speaker 2: best of seven.

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Speaker 5: Right right, It's just I don't think it's going to happen, especially,

496
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Speaker 5: you know, going back to the Garden. That's a whole

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Speaker 5: other thing. But I'm glad that the MAVs showed the

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Speaker 5: fight that we knew that they were capable of.

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Speaker 2: I also don't want to downplay what the MAVs did,

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Speaker 2: but this was one of the worst games we've seen

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Speaker 2: from Boston.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely all season.

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Speaker 2: So It's like how much credit do you give that

504
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Speaker 2: to Boston just like completely just having a down down game,

505
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Speaker 2: or like how dominant Dallas was.

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Speaker 4: It was like the.

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Speaker 2: Perfect storm for both were both right to have like

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Speaker 2: the third.

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Speaker 5: Our amendment home, Yeah, you had all that, but again

510
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Speaker 5: you have to give credit to the Maps were playing

511
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Speaker 5: defense because that is what stifled the Celtics. Maybe them

512
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Speaker 5: seeing that they're capable of that can carry them to

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Speaker 5: another win.

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Speaker 3: But I just I still don't know.

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Speaker 4: You're going team no, no, no, you're going back to

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Speaker 4: the garden.

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Speaker 2: I'm just yeah, I'm just happy that MAVs made it

518
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Speaker 2: a bit of the series at least for a night,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to get another game on Monday, like

520
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Speaker 2: just something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then that also or I mean.

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Speaker 5: Boston wants to win at home, so they were just

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Speaker 5: like sure the Maps can have this one. We're going

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Speaker 5: to turn it on. I mean, they have been playing

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Speaker 5: with their food all season, so we're all serious. I

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Speaker 5: heard postseason.

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Speaker 4: Yeah all right, I don't know, like.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, I preface that these are

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Speaker 5: the conspiracy theorists, but it was now now Boston does

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Speaker 5: have the chance to close it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as like as a Lakers fan, and I'm living

532
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Speaker 2: in the past, wearing my Lakers shirt, like pretending how

533
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Speaker 2: we used to be in the playhoffs late to the finals.

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Speaker 2: I'm just happy that Boston didn't sweep. I'm just so

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Speaker 2: happy that sweet might be a gentleman sweep. But uh,

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Speaker 2: we'll see. Now, let's check in with a COVID.

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Speaker 4: See what's trudre.

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Speaker 10: Well more to your point. Game five the NBA Finals

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Speaker 10: coming up on Monday. According to tick pick, currently the

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Speaker 10: most expensive ticket on record for a sporting event in Boston.

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Speaker 10: Cheapest get in price for Monday Night at the Garden

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Speaker 10: one thy, seven hundred and fifteen dollars. News in the

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Speaker 10: NFL reports a Bengals receiver T Higgins has signed his

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Speaker 10: franchise tag and is expected to report to training camp

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Speaker 10: next month, but a long term deal for Higgins is

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Speaker 10: considered unlikely at this point. Third round of the US

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Speaker 10: Open from Pinehurst, number two is in progress. Crowded leaderboard

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Speaker 10: at the top, Ludwig Aberg at the top at six

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Speaker 10: under par, Matthew Pavaughan is one shot back at five hunder,

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Speaker 10: and you've got a cluster at four under including it.

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Speaker 10: Tony Finow Roy McRoy and Bryson Deshambeau. But Obert had

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Speaker 10: the lead at the start of the day and he

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Speaker 10: has won under for his round. Got Game four of

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Speaker 10: the Stanley Cup Final tonight at eight Easter and the

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Speaker 10: Panthers trying to become the first team to sweep the

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Speaker 10: finals since the Red Wings did it to the Capitals

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Speaker 10: in nineteen ninety eight. Baseball, the Orioles placed right hand

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Speaker 10: or cal Brandish on the fifteen day injured list with

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Speaker 10: a UCL sprain in his elbow. Got a bunch of

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Speaker 10: games in action, most of them have just started. But

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Speaker 10: you got the Cubs leading the Cardinals of five to

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Speaker 10: one in the eighth inning. Also the Blue Jays shutting

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Speaker 10: out the Guardians four to nothing in the fifth. Twins

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Speaker 10: and A's was postponed due to rain in the Twin Cities.

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Speaker 10: They'll play a doubleheader tomorrow. Alex Carmen back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Nick. You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. Alex

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Speaker 2: Courry here with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: Attire dot Com Studios in Los Angeles, and it is

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Speaker 2: time to bring in our first guest. He's the host

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Speaker 2: of Exemplift podcast. NFL writer for Yahoo Sports. Please welcome

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Speaker 2: Charles McDonald. Thank you for joining the show.

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Speaker 6: Roberts, whoo hey, guys, how's it going.

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Speaker 4: Thank you? We're doing great.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk some Let's talk some football here, because Trevor

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Speaker 2: Lawrence got paid this week with his contract extension five years,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five million dollars. Now, Carmen and

577
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Speaker 2: I were talking about this off the top of the show.

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Speaker 2: He came into this league with extremely high expectations, put

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Speaker 2: on a pedestal here, So there's been a lot of

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Speaker 2: talk of do you think he earned this extension? Give

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Speaker 2: us your thoughts of was this a great deal for

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Speaker 2: the Jags and was this the right deal for Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 6: Look, anytime you can get two hundred million dollars guarantees,

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Speaker 6: I think it's probably the right deal for you. But

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Speaker 6: I do think this is the right deal for the Jaguars.

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Speaker 6: And I've i as my little group of football writers

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Speaker 6: that I've talked to a lot, and we're all pretty

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Speaker 6: big Trevor fans, So we've been bracing ourselves for this

589
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Speaker 6: idea that when he got that contract, which I don't

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Speaker 6: think anyone should be surprised they got it that there

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Speaker 6: would be some backlash to it because he was billed

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Speaker 6: as like, you know, the next Peyton Manning Andrew Luck

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Speaker 6: type quarterback. But I also think people need to remember that,

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Speaker 6: like Trevor Nevers said that about himself, that was us.

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Speaker 6: That was our fault, the mis making on that, and

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Speaker 6: he's not Peyton Manning. But I do think he's a

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Speaker 6: He's a really really good quarterback that kind of just

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Speaker 6: hasn't been set up to, you know, fully succeed in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 6: They tried last year with the Calvin really things, and

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Speaker 6: it turns out a year away from professional football can

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Speaker 6: be a little bit detrimental to your ability to play

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Speaker 6: professional football on a consistent level. And then they've you know,

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Speaker 6: they've made investments in Christian Kirk and they having Ingram

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Speaker 6: who are nice players but not like true number one.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I think that they have the quarterback right

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Speaker 6: for the future. It's just kind of like the skilled

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Speaker 6: players moving around it that they still need to figure out.

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Speaker 6: And if they can do that, man, I really wouldn't

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Speaker 6: be that concerned. But you know, it's like you have

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Speaker 6: one piece of you have the most important piece. I

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Speaker 6: think but there's still so much that needs to be

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Speaker 6: built out around it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and now with this contract structured as it is,

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Speaker 5: you have the flexibility to kind of control Triver's cap

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Speaker 5: so you can put a better team around him all

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Speaker 5: that other stuff.

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Speaker 3: We talked about that too. But this speaks kind of to.

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Speaker 5: The larger quarterback market where it kind of becomes the

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Speaker 5: floor for these franchise quarterbacks, where like, all right, this

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Speaker 5: is just the going rate now. And I know so

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Speaker 5: Charles is a long suffering Atlanta Falcons fan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean you knew I was gonna have

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Speaker 3: to go here, Charles.

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Speaker 5: You look at like the Kirk Cousins deal and how

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Speaker 5: that kind of set expectations when he's thirty six coming

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Speaker 5: off in Achilles injury, which is arguably one of the

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Speaker 5: worst injury you could possibly have as a football player.

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Speaker 5: Where does this market go from here? And is it

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Speaker 5: just going to kind of keep climbing And are these

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Speaker 5: guys that are in line to get paid like Jordan

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Speaker 5: Love like to a Tago Butloa and like Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 5: should they be expecting closer to that six number?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's yeah, if you're like if you're

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Speaker 6: a brock Purty, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fast You're just.

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Speaker 6: Looking at the stats, comparing your stats to other quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: That which is what you're gonna take with you when

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Speaker 6: you go negotiate your deal. But yeah, you should ask

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Speaker 6: for sixty million dollars because that's what this game is.

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Speaker 6: You know. I think people forget every single time. People

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Speaker 6: forget it's not the best quarterback. That's always the high

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Speaker 6: stake guy like that homes like the ninth high stake quarterback,

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Speaker 6: even after like his raises that he got in.

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Speaker 4: The past couple of years, which is crazy inspective.

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Speaker 6: Winning, it's crazy, it's crazy. It's just like who gets paid, uh,

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Speaker 6: you know the most recently. So what I think is

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Speaker 6: really interesting about uh where we're going to be by

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Speaker 6: the time, you know, Week one kicks off, is you're

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Speaker 6: probably gonna have like Trevor Lawrence, Jerrick Off two a

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Speaker 6: tongue of Illowa under contract for contract extensions this offseason.

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Speaker 6: I think that those three are like a great test

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Speaker 6: case for what what what should teams be paying for

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Speaker 6: at the quarterback positions because when I look at Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 6: I because you know, that's someone to me who at

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Speaker 6: times has like the talents to literally carry the jacks

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Speaker 6: ostense when when things aren't working around them. You know,

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Speaker 6: I think with Jared Goffe's too tungue ballo, we've seen

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Speaker 6: they can be a little bit more dependent on the

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Speaker 6: pieces around them to actually be productive players at all.

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Speaker 6: So I think that what we see from them because

663
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Speaker 6: two is obviously going to get paid. He's going to

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Speaker 6: be in the fifty five million dollars per year range

665
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Speaker 6: or maybe even a little bit more. Uh, Because, like

666
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Speaker 6: as I just said, the towns works. But I think

667
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Speaker 6: the type of quarterback that teams are handing out big

668
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Speaker 6: money too, because look, Derek Goff is making more money

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Speaker 6: than Lamar Jackson Josh Allen. Now, yeah, So I think

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Speaker 6: that that's something teams should probably consider moving forward.

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Speaker 5: Well, and in that vein too, elite quarterback play is

672
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Speaker 5: so hard to find. Like the people that are saying,

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Speaker 5: how could you pay Trevor Lawrence, this, that and the other?

674
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Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence is an above average quarterback? Where what is

675
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Speaker 5: your option? What what is your what is the alternative

676
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Speaker 5: to paying these guys that are above average quarterbacks? Because

677
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Speaker 5: it's like Patrick Mahomes has spoken for Josh Allen is

678
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Speaker 5: looking for like your Atlanta Falcons went out and got

679
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Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins and then went and spent a top ten

680
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Speaker 5: pick on quarterback because you just don't know, like what,

681
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Speaker 5: I feel like there needs to be a little bit

682
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Speaker 5: more talked about when it comes to the fact that

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Speaker 5: a truly good quarterback, a franchise quarterback is such a

684
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Speaker 5: hard and rare commodity to come by.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Kirk Cousins just got one hundred million dollars guarantee

686
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Speaker 12: a put torn Achilles and the Vikings we're trying to

687
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Speaker 12: bring them back because remember they put out a statement

688
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Speaker 12: like right before Kirk.

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Speaker 6: Signed with Atlanta. So yeah, the teams are don't pay

690
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Speaker 6: anything for this. I do wonder if they're if the

691
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Speaker 6: bubbles ever are gonna yop though, where a team looks

692
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Speaker 6: at like, you know, not to not to you know,

693
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Speaker 6: to hate on them too hard, but a team looks

694
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Speaker 6: like a TUA and says, no, I can't I can't

695
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Speaker 6: pay that sixty million dollars per year. I can't do it.

696
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Speaker 6: It's just not it's not good enough value. And I

697
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Speaker 6: think the value, the value idea with quarterbacks is all

698
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Speaker 6: is interesting because like what quarterbacks, you know, value obviously

699
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Speaker 6: I would I would say at this point, Lamar Jackson

700
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Speaker 6: contract that value, Josh Allen contract obviously value Derek Goff.

701
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Speaker 6: We'll see, we'll see if he can, you know, end

702
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Speaker 6: up overcoming what they have to cut off the roster

703
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Speaker 6: as his cap kids grows over the years. But even then,

704
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Speaker 6: like he's still a capable player in his own right.

705
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Speaker 6: It's just like how high can the ceiling be? So

706
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Speaker 6: I think that's also part of the Trevor Lawrence equation,

707
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Speaker 6: where you know, you have these moments where he looks

708
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Speaker 6: like he could be in that Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen,

709
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Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson's class at times, but just not consistent. But

710
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Speaker 6: if you can harness that and get that movement, then

711
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Speaker 6: this deal is going to be totally worth it. And

712
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Speaker 6: even if he just ends up being like the tenth

713
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Speaker 6: best quarterback moving forward, right, it's still probably gonna be

714
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Speaker 6: worth it, right, you know, all right.

715
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Speaker 4: Let's switch gears.

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Speaker 2: Because Aaron Rodgers missed mandatory mini camp with an unexcused absence,

717
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: we still don't know where he is. And the fact that,

718
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Speaker 2: like what Pat McAfee like who he goes on that

719
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: show every week he also has no idea where he is.

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Speaker 4: Do you think this is a big deal that he

721
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Speaker 4: missed these practices?

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Speaker 6: No, No, I don't. I don't think it matters at all,

723
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Speaker 6: to be honest with you. It has become something that

724
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Speaker 6: gets talked about because it's Aaron and he can't help.

725
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Speaker 6: But like, do these things where he's just kind of

726
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Speaker 6: messing with the orders of operations actually ms rich to

727
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Speaker 6: me and he's you know, he pondered the idea that

728
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Speaker 6: Aaron might have gone to Egypt this week. I'm not sure.

729
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Speaker 2: So we've had he's at like the Kennedy fundraiser we

730
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Speaker 2: have somewhere in Europe, we have he's in Egypt.

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Speaker 4: This is the like where's waldo of Aaron Rodgers? Where

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Speaker 4: is it?

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Speaker 10: You?

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Speaker 6: All over the place? I do think that Soft Gardner,

735
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Speaker 6: the Jet's cornerback, he put it pretty pecactly on score

736
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Speaker 6: to the other of the day, where basically was like

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Speaker 6: I'm paraphrasing here, He's like, man, this guy's plays in

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Speaker 6: the NFL for twenty years.

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Speaker 11: The three day.

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Speaker 6: Practicing June is not really mattering that much. Also, Aaron,

741
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Speaker 6: He's been around for literally everything else this season this

742
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Speaker 6: off season. I mean, I don't know what he was

743
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Speaker 6: doing this week. But Aaron's not even the most interesting

744
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Speaker 6: Jets holdout this week. We're the one that h Hassan Reddick,

745
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Speaker 6: who they created for in April. First, Yeah, hasn't done

746
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 6: anything yet because he's looking for a new deal as

747
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Speaker 6: the enders the last year of his deal with the

748
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Speaker 6: Jets a reflex fine with the Eagles. But here's the thing,

749
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Speaker 6: Robert Salay and Joe Douglas might not be in a

750
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Speaker 6: position to hand out multi year deals right now. So

751
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Speaker 6: that's going to be the one that is interesting. But Aaron,

752
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Speaker 6: I don't think this matters. He already knows Nate Hackens' playbook.

753
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Speaker 6: He's just doing Aaron things.

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Speaker 2: It's it's just been like why not get ahead of it,

755
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Speaker 2: you know, be like, hey, he's not going to be

756
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Speaker 2: here this week. A post of putting Robert Sola on

757
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Speaker 2: the hot seat and then like having him answered that's

758
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Speaker 2: a lot of like.

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Speaker 4: You're a meeting, you know what you're doing, can't meeting?

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Speaker 4: You know what you're doing? Now he's top five our

761
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Speaker 4: conversation probably a purpose.

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Speaker 6: I'll about say. I like Robert sala. I think he's

763
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Speaker 6: a good guy. He was greaty for his coach. But

764
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Speaker 6: when he gets in front of a mic, in front

765
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Speaker 6: of these situations, it never makes it better. You always

766
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Speaker 6: have to tell back to the next day and clarify. I thinks,

767
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Speaker 6: so yeah, video a little proactivity will be good for

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Speaker 6: the chest, but I think in.

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Speaker 4: A lot of area, just a little.

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Speaker 2: Charles, thank you so much for joining us. Love your insight,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, of course.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Now when we come back, it's time for the dues

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Speaker 2: and the Dons in sports. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here

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Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from Attarik dot

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Speaker 2: com studios in Los Angeles. Thank you for spending your

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Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon with carme and me. I hope we've put

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Speaker 2: a smile on your face of even hanging out with

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Speaker 2: us as last hour.

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Speaker 4: If not, you will.

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Speaker 3: But guess what great guess at Charles McDonald.

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Speaker 4: So he was he was awesome.

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Speaker 3: He's so funny. You guys, you need to follow him

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Speaker 3: on Twitter. He's at four verts. Uh. He's one of

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Speaker 3: the funniest Twitter follows.

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Speaker 2: That in I just in the NFL No, no, no, you

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Speaker 2: just told me that, and I just ad a full

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Speaker 2: deep creep at our commercial break and that was great.

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Speaker 2: But now it is time for the dues and the

795
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: don'ts in sports this week.

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Speaker 1: High I love that putting a spotlight on the don't.

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Speaker 4: The subject brings me no joy.

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Speaker 3: That's insane.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with a do okay, do recognize and

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00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: praise greatness. The world lost a legend this week when

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00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: Jerry West passed away, and he will go down as

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00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: one of the greatest NBA figures of all time. And

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Speaker 2: I love seeing just the appreciation from every single level,

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00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: every single person not only involved in basketball but in

807
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: sports that came out and just shared these stories.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of like old clip.

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Speaker 2: Surfacing and there was one where he's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a dog. People say like, you got to

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Speaker 2: be the dog in sports. I'm the wolf and I

812
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: eat the dog. I was like, that's what I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, he will the three different separate dynasties.

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Speaker 2: He had the Lakers in the eighties with Magic and Kareem,

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Speaker 2: Lakers in the two thousands with Kobe and Shack, the

817
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Speaker 2: Warriors dynasty with Steph Draymond Clay and brought in Katy,

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Speaker 2: that whole thing.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, has lost some legends in the last couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks. I know, I know, Walton Billy.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I just got chill.

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Speaker 3: But you're right.

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Speaker 5: Seeing all the stories about these guys is so it's

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Speaker 5: so cool, and it's so cool to see the legacy

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Speaker 5: that they had off the basketball court too.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I also have a due. Yeah, do double check

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Speaker 3: your work.

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Speaker 4: Oh hat, I know where we're going with this.

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Speaker 5: The Chiefs had their ring ceremony in the year Air

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Speaker 5: this week, and the ring itself, it was engraved on

831
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Speaker 5: every single one of them on the inside of the ring.

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Speaker 5: Underneath it had the scores of all of their games

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Speaker 5: in the playoffs and it listed the Miami Dolphins as

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Speaker 5: the seventh seed when they were the sixth seed.

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Speaker 3: In the AFC.

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Speaker 5: The Steelers were the seventh seed and that is now

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Speaker 5: on everybody's drink.

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Speaker 2: It's just like, how much were the rings. They were

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Speaker 2: like what how much were each one was worse with

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Speaker 2: an insane amount of.

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Speaker 3: Like seventy grand something like that. I mean, it's all

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Speaker 3: as this is.

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Speaker 4: This is how I know.

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Speaker 3: This is how I know you won too much? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because like you you're like, eh, right, here's the design.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: We're doing this again, okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of winning a lot, My next is also

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Speaker 2: a do do show up and support your teams. Boston

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Speaker 2: packed two arenas there did the same night, and neither

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Speaker 2: had a live game happening inside the building. The Garden

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Speaker 2: was packed to watch the Celtics MAVs game in Dallas,

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Speaker 2: and then Gillett Stadium was packed for Brady's Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame induction.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there it is Boston fans. Like I'm from Chicago.

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Speaker 5: I take pride in being a Chicago fan. Yeah, like

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Speaker 5: I know that that city can rally. But like Boston

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Speaker 5: and Chicago are like right, neck and neck. Who I

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Speaker 5: will fully admit that Boston is such a good sports city.

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Speaker 4: Philly, Philly's great too, Philly's up there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I actually have don't in relation to that

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00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 5: whole situation. Don't underestimate Rob Gronkowski because in the roast

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Speaker 5: of Brady, everybody just kept telling how dumb robis and

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Speaker 5: I was like, He's not that dumb. And at Tom's

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Speaker 5: induction on the red carpet, Gronk did some really fun

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Speaker 5: math about what was all taking place, why it was

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Speaker 5: taking place.

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Speaker 4: Why do you think he like bo did this on purpose? Okay,

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Speaker 4: keep going, keep going anyway.

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Speaker 5: He like he was talking about like, oh, well, it's

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00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 5: happening in the sixth month of the year because Tom

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Speaker 5: was a sixth round pick.

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Speaker 3: Also other stuff. He did all this fun maths and

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Speaker 3: then he said it's.

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Speaker 5: Happening in the year twenty twenty four because that's the

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Speaker 5: age of the girls that Tom and Bill Balichick are

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Speaker 5: both dating, twenty four year old, and that Bill Belichick

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Speaker 5: is dating and brought her to the induction ceremony. No,

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Speaker 5: it's a former cheerleader. A cheerleader, she's twenty four years old.

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Speaker 5: She and Bill Belichick are dating.

881
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Speaker 3: No, And now.

882
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, Rob Gronkowski looks like the most stable,

883
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 5: like less wild of the three of them, because Grok

884
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 5: has been with his girlfriend Camille, who's thirty two years old,

885
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Speaker 5: for years and.

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Speaker 2: Like she also has an extremely successful was also a cheerleader.

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00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah she was.

888
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, but she like she's a successful in her sports

889
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 5: illustrats on suit moodel. She's got a business bunch of

890
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Speaker 5: business ventures, just like Robinson.

891
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 4: She Patriots, truly, she was Patriots. That's a big no.

892
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: No, we're getting past that.

893
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 5: But I just all of a sudden, rob Gronkowski looks

894
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 5: like the most responsible of Tom Brady.

895
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 4: That like if he dropped that at the roast.

896
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: Oh, the roast is happening in twenty twenty four, because

897
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Speaker 2: that's the age of do we get a.

898
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick roast? Because oh my god?

899
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 4: Like also, like who are you Bill Belichick?

900
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 3: Learning?

901
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 4: Working now?

902
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: Now?

903
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: Like about him, we're getting personality for the first time

904
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Speaker 2: in our lives.

905
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Speaker 4: You were dating someone that could probably be like you're wet.

906
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 5: He got caught sneaking out of her house. I don't

907
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 5: know if it was her house, but it was somebody's house.

908
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: They talked about that during the road was brought up.

909
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: That was brought up during the roast. But like that,

910
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 4: how old is Bill? Like are we in a sixty?

911
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god?

912
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 4: That could be your granddaughter. That's a little.

913
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Speaker 11: All.

914
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: She's a philosopher, what she is an entrepreneur at a philosopher.

915
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 4: What there is so much to unpack the Oh my god.

916
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take a break when we come

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Speaker 2: back in the mayf Stay alive.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: Welcome to hour two of Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex

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00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: Curry here with Carmen Vitali. Thank you for spending your

922
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon with Karmie and me. We've had a blast

923
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: of a first hour. And then tonight I'm going to

924
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: Dodgers versus Royals, my first game since Opening Day. I

925
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Speaker 2: am ready to watch Yamamoto in real life for my

926
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Speaker 2: first time. The big pitching pick up by the Dodgers

927
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Speaker 2: this year. Also, like, not sure how many people had

928
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: the Royals crushing it this season on their bingo car

929
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: are They're one of eight teams with forty wins in

930
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Speaker 2: baseball right now? Like, who, I can't wait to watch

931
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Speaker 2: Bobby Junior on the wheeler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Been to a Dodger games that I worked for them,

933
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Speaker 3: which is like.

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Speaker 2: Ten years ago. Yeah, that's great that you live here

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Speaker 2: in La.

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Speaker 4: Figure that out. We'll go back.

937
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Speaker 2: Well, next Dodger game we go to, We're gonna make

938
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Speaker 2: The NBA Finals are still alive, you guys, thanks to

945
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: Luca and the MAVs going off last night as a

946
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: Lakers fan.

947
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 4: And I'm rocking my Lakers shirt.

948
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: I was just crossing my fingers and toes that Boston

949
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: didn't get a finals sweep, So thank you. The other

950
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: big news last night, Charles Barkley announced that, after twenty

951
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: four years on TVs, retiring after next season, he is

952
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: in TV.

953
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: Gold and just that's a loss, man.

954
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: Everything they've won, like I think, like the every single year,

955
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 2: like that whole TNT show set the bar for pre

956
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: postgame show.

957
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: It was just as he was saying that, because everyone

958
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 4: was like, Oh, where it's he going to go? How

959
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 4: much money is he going to get? Like anywhere? I

960
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 4: love Yeah, TNT and NBA TV. That's it.

961
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 3: I love it. I'm done.

962
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 4: End of an era, Well, next year, end of an era.

963
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: But we're going to dive deeper into last night's game

964
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 2: with our next guest, NBA insider Mark Medina.

965
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 4: Thank you for joining the show.

966
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 11: Alice kar thanks for having me.

967
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm happy that we get to continue to talk

968
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: about the NBA Finals. I mean, that was one of

969
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 2: the most impressive bounce back facing elimination games we've seen

970
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: in the finals, so much so that I mean the MAVs.

971
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: Pulled their starters in the third quarter.

972
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: What was the biggest difference that you saw from Luca

973
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: in the MAVs last night?

974
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 11: Well, I think the biggest difference with Luca is that

975
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 11: he lived up to what uh the criticism he was

976
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 11: getting in Game three with not complaining to the officials,

977
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 11: playing better on defense. Though it was very much a

978
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 11: bounce back game, but I think in fairness, the entire

979
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 11: group a lot more effort, a lot more help for

980
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 11: Lucas so that the burden wasn't on him. And look,

981
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Speaker 11: I don't want to burst your bubble, and I'm sorry

982
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 11: to do it because I know you're a Laker fan.

983
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 11: I don't think that they're going to be the first

984
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 11: team ever to overcome an O three thirds.

985
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 4: But I can do a gentleman suite, but just not

986
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 4: like a sweet stuff.

987
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 11: But I will validate. They did make some history with

988
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 11: the game last night. You know, that was the third

989
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 11: most lopsided game in Final history. And while we've seen

990
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 11: the playoff games that each game can have its own identity,

991
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Speaker 11: I think that there is something to be said that

992
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 11: there can be a carryover with Game five because of

993
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 11: how well they played, as well as just the fact

994
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 11: that they got some rest in the fourth quarter. And

995
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 11: there's a lot of uncertainty with Chriss Borzingis's health situation

996
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 11: in Boston, so we will see for an interesting Monday

997
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 11: what Game five looks like.

998
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 5: Now, obviously you could play better defense. The MAVs in

999
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 5: total played better on defense shut down the Celtics in

1000
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 5: that game. Do you think that that was more the

1001
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 5: elevation of the MAVs or was it more Boston taking

1002
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 5: their foot off the gas knowing that if they didn't

1003
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Speaker 5: win this game, they could turn around and win it

1004
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 5: at home now next game.

1005
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, very good point. Carbon. I mean, Dallas deserves all

1006
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 11: the credited kudos that we gave them just earlier, but

1007
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 11: we do have to keep in mind that it takes

1008
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 11: two to tango, and Boston definitely let down its intensely.

1009
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 11: And this is kind of this has been their identity

1010
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 11: all season. When they feel that their challenge or have

1011
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 11: to play their best basketball, they do. But when they

1012
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 11: feel like that they don't have to do that and

1013
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 11: they can coast along, they help themselves to play with

1014
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 11: their food and.

1015
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 4: Having some exactly what Carmon said.

1016
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Speaker 11: So I suspect that that's not going to happen again,

1017
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 11: especially they have an opportunity to close it out in

1018
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 11: Game five on Money Day, but you never know. I mean,

1019
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 11: I think that the thing with porzingis I don't think

1020
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 11: that series defining necessarily. There were a few coaches I

1021
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 11: talked to before the series started and thought Boston's so

1022
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 11: deep that Withoutzingis they're.

1023
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 6: Going to win.

1024
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 11: But anytime you get a team hope, a team confidence,

1025
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 11: anything can happen. And again, I don't think it's enough

1026
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 11: to win three more games in a row, but it's

1027
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 11: at least enough that Dallas could win Monday and really

1028
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 11: make this series more interesting than what we thought.

1029
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so then continuing on that, because no team has

1030
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: ever come back from being down three in a series

1031
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: to win the best of seven. Are you expecting the

1032
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 2: Mouns to make this a series or is Boston closing

1033
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 2: this out and winning it home on Monday Night.

1034
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's the ultimate question here, I think can I

1035
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 11: say both? Like I think Dallas w Yeah, I think

1036
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 11: that it'll be respectable. We'll see a better version of Luca,

1037
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 11: We'll see a better version of Dallas being a complete team.

1038
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 11: But I think that we're going to see a much

1039
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 11: better version of Boston with them plant their best. Maybe

1040
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 11: we get some minutes from Persingus, maybe he's still out,

1041
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 11: but regardless, it'll be Jason Tatum, Jylen Brown, Drew Holliday,

1042
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 11: Derek White at their best. They're at home, They're at

1043
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 11: the Garden, and I know that it's going to be

1044
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 11: celebratory for all the Sevics luminaries, rightfully painful for Lakers

1045
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 11: luminaries because of the ring total counts that we're keeping

1046
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 11: track of with the NBA's best rivalry. But yeah, I

1047
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 11: think that's what's going to happen.

1048
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 5: How much do you think Boston has been helped by

1049
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 5: the fact that, I mean, they had the easier conference

1050
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 5: when it got in the regular season and then this postseason.

1051
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 5: I mean, it only took them fourteen games to get

1052
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 5: to the finals. They were very well rested coming into this,

1053
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 5: whereas the MAVs had to fight through a gauntlet in

1054
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 5: the West, Like are we kind of seeing the disparity

1055
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 5: between the competition of each conference now manifesting in the

1056
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 5: fact that Boston now seems to have more energy, has

1057
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 5: been more dominant in this series because of the fact

1058
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 5: that maybe they're just they don't have as much tree

1059
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 5: on them.

1060
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, really good point. I think we're seeing it, no

1061
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 11: doubt because Boston outside of perzingis of course, but they've

1062
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 11: been mostly healthy. You haven't seen, you know, signs of

1063
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 11: fatigue for really their main guys. And I think also

1064
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 11: on the worst end, we also didn't see Boston have

1065
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 11: to play at its best in previous rounds because they

1066
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 11: weren't challenged, and we saw that once they faced a

1067
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 11: more affordable opponent they did rise to the occasion. But

1068
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 11: I think on the other hand, they do earn some

1069
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 11: credit that they won most I think nine out of

1070
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 11: ten games without porzingis so even though they played teams

1071
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 11: that you know, were decimated with injury, especially with their

1072
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 11: main guys they had a key injury. Now it was

1073
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 11: much different because their main guys are Jayson Tatum Jael Brown.

1074
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 11: But he is their third option. He's a key part

1075
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 11: of their machine and why they've been even more dangerous

1076
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 11: than past seasons when they've fallen short in the playoffs.

1077
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 11: So I think when I'm weighing all this to answer,

1078
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 11: you know, the thrush Her question, I think the prevailing

1079
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 11: part is that their depth, talent, and continuity is prevailing.

1080
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 11: But I think that what you mentioned about the landscape

1081
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 11: that's certainly played I think a third or fourth factor

1082
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 11: into all those.

1083
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 2: Now we've seen what the MAVs are capable of, but

1084
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: obviously not quite enough in terms of depth and help.

1085
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: So where do the MAVs go from here, especially like

1086
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 2: looking into the off season.

1087
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a really good question because if they fall

1088
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 11: short inevitably, you always internalize what can you do better?

1089
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 11: But I think that the good thing for Dallas is

1090
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 11: that they addressed the pressing concerns that plagued them in

1091
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 11: previous seasons of finding the right number two or one A,

1092
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 11: one B for Luca, and they've already found that with Kyrie,

1093
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 11: He's not going to be a free agent. They resigned

1094
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 11: him last year and they found the right supporting cast,

1095
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 11: so it's not the Luca Show and only the Lucas Show.

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Speaker 11: So I think really it's going to be about assuming

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Speaker 11: that they lose this series, about improving from within and

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00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 11: building off that experience, and that might sound boring, but

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Speaker 11: it's also in line with what most teams and stars

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Speaker 11: go through in the NBA playoffs. I mean, we've seen

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00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 11: this happen in Boston where they were knocking on the door.

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Speaker 11: They weren't quite ready yet, and now it looks like

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Speaker 11: they are, and no doubt they've made changes, but it's

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Speaker 11: mostly been around the margins. They haven't made the changes

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Speaker 11: with their main stars. So I think that's the most

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00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 11: likely course that Dallas takes and the most realistic. But

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Speaker 11: I think the challenging part to wrap this up is

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Speaker 11: that the rest of the landscape is going to continue

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Speaker 11: to get more challenging.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, let's move to the other big topic

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00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: that's been going on during these NBA Finals, and that's

1112
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Speaker 2: that the Lakers offered Dan.

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00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 4: Early a six year, seventy million.

1114
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: Dollar contract to become the next head coach, and he

1115
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: declined it were you surprised at Hurley said, No.

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Speaker 11: Not surprised, because I think that he was dealing with

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00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 11: two good options. And so when I conclude with this,

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00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 11: the sense that I got is that it was more

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00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 11: a factor that he had a good thing going of

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Speaker 11: two consecutive national championships. He's even in the age of nil.

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Speaker 11: He is the faith of Yukon. There's more stability there

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00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 11: as opposed to any indictment on the many questions that

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00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 11: the Lakers have. Now no doubt, this obviously shows that

1124
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 11: this isn't the Lakers of old, of their glamor franchise.

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Speaker 11: Anyone would just take any job offered to them.

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Speaker 2: Pay them to like get them if you really want them,

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00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of low ball offer.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's the thing that's that's I think that

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Speaker 7: when I'm wrestling with that part about could they offered more? Yes,

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Speaker 7: they could have, I think in fairness though Dan Hurley's

1131
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 7: even acknowledged that he didn't need it for leverage, like

1132
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Speaker 7: he was already going to get that extension with Yukon.

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Speaker 7: And secondly, when you're looking at the marketplace, he was

1134
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 7: going to be still among I think top five on

1135
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 7: all the highest paying coaches in the league and the

1136
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 7: ones that are above them were you know, people like

1137
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 7: Steve Kerr and Greg Popovich, and no disrespect to Dan Hurley,

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00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 7: but they obviously have more of a track recor with

1139
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 7: the NBA. But yeah, I think to the larger point,

1140
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 7: the higher number you get.

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00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 11: Maybe that makes the difference. But I think when you

1142
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 11: weigh all these variables, I think at the end of

1143
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 11: the day, he stayed put because he concluded, I have

1144
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 11: a good thing going. Why broke break something that is

1145
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 11: or why try to fix something that isn't broken.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: Now there are reports that JJ Reddick is a meeting

1148
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: with the Lakers this weekend. What are you hearing and

1149
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: is this now the Lakers' best option?

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00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 11: Yeah? Really good question here because it's all fluid, But

1151
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 11: I think as we speak, it's the most realistic option,

1152
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 11: best option. It's tough because he hasn't coached before, but

1153
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 11: it's what are the best options of AILA and James

1154
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 11: Barreco is another good candidate, but he might be more

1155
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 11: inclined to go the Cleveland round because he's interviewed there

1156
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 11: and he's a great coach. He has a relationship with

1157
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 11: Anthony Davis. He knows, you know, off good, pretty good offenses,

1158
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 11: but he's also had his own shortcomings as a head coach.

1159
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 11: So I think the best and most realistic course of

1160
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 11: action is hiring JJ Reddick, but also making sure that

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00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 11: he has the right coaching staff around him to mitigate

1162
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 11: the shortcomings of laugh of experience. But that's easier said

1163
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 11: than done because not every experienced coach is willing to

1164
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 11: be an assistant. Uh So that's the tricky part. It's

1165
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 11: not just finding the right head coach, it's finding the

1166
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 11: right coaching staff to address that coach's weaknesses.

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Speaker 5: That was my question because I think what goes a

1168
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 5: little bit under talked about when you have these guys

1169
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 5: that haven't coached before, especially in the NBA, it's not

1170
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 5: so much about, you know, their lack of experience when

1171
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 5: it comes to actually doing the coaching things. And like

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00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, JJ Reddick played forever, he was

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00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 5: a high level player.

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Speaker 3: He knows what a head coach is supposed to look like.

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00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 3: But when you come in so Green.

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Speaker 5: You don't have these guys that line your bench as

1177
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 5: far as your staff goes, because you don't you haven't

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00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 5: worked with anyone in that regard. So who would be

1179
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 5: some of the assistants, you would expect someone like JJ

1180
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 5: Reddick to pull in to make up for, like you said,

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00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 5: his lack of experience.

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00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think Scott Brooks should be a pretty good candidate.

1183
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 11: He had former head coach experience, and he has proven

1184
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 11: that he's willing to be an assistant coach just recently

1185
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 11: with Portland. I don't think that he's actually going to

1186
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 11: be a candidate, but I do give the benefit of

1187
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 11: the dow with Terry Stott. You know, he was a

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00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 11: pretty good coach in Portland. He's very well respected for

1189
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 11: his offensive acumen. The counterpoint might be, well, he was

1190
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 11: with Milwaukee and that time ended very quickly when there

1191
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 11: was some friction with him and Adrian Griffin. But that

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00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 11: I get is that that was more specific to Adrian

1193
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 11: Griffin than philosophically a veteran assistant coach trying to step

1194
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 11: on the toes of a head coach. But that being said,

1195
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 11: I don't think that's an option. I just think that

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00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 11: that's a good option. And then Rajon Rondo, he wanted

1197
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 11: to fill fill this bucket, but he would fill a

1198
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 11: different bucket of another good smart voice, former player could

1199
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 11: at least start off on the player development route. But

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00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 11: this is a tricky puzzle. The Lakers have to figure

1201
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 11: it out. And I know, you know, even though the

1202
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 11: sounds bizarre, the Lakers internally aren't necessarily saying we have

1203
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 11: to have everything in place before the draft. But I

1204
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 11: think objectively they gotta do that because the longer you're waiting,

1205
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 11: the more you know you're working from behind with everything

1206
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 11: so and the more.

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Speaker 5: That you risk having some division on that coaching staff.

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00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: The players that were brought in and are like oh weird,

1209
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: seem like a great course of action.

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Speaker 4: Mark, Thank you so much for joining us.

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00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: And I know you are just everywhere this weekend through

1212
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: the final, So thank you for taking the time.

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Speaker 3: To join us.

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Speaker 11: Thank you for having Yeah, we love it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Mark, thank you. I'm nervous about the Lakers situation.

1216
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 4: Also like Lebron.

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00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: Also like Lebron, like kind of like it came out

1218
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 2: when Dan Hurley was talking. He was on the Herd

1219
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: this week and he shared like, yeah, you know, Lebron

1220
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: and I like had some conversations.

1221
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 4: We were texting each other.

1222
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: And he told me, you know, if I'm here with

1223
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: the Lakers next year, I.

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00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 3: Would like to have you in Philadelphia. Lebron was what

1225
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 3: he was spotted having lunch in Philadelphia with the seventy

1226
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 3: six ers coach. I mean, it could be, it could

1227
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 3: be behaving.

1228
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 4: Everything's a thing.

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Speaker 2: Though Lebron is a media mogul, he knows what he

1230
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: is doing. He also has made it very clear that

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00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: he wants to play with his son, Bronni. And who's

1232
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 2: gonna like, maybe take him in the second round or

1233
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: sign him as like an undrafted player.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. There's so much.

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00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 5: There's so many it's it's hard to have. It's hard

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00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 5: to have a personality like Lebron. I mean, Lebron is

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00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 5: one of the best basketball players to ever walk the

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00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 5: face of the earth. But it's hard to have that

1239
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 5: personality in an age where players do have so much control,

1240
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 5: because then like.

1241
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 4: The NBA is the league where your stars do.

1242
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: To control and controlling like personality.

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00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: Region, it's insane. It's the same to look at all

1244
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: the other sports. How much power these star players have

1245
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: in the NBA.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not saying they shouldn't, to be quite clear,

1247
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 5: but when you have a guy like Lebron who has

1248
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 5: been on so many teams, who has so much experience,

1249
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 5: who knows so much in his own right.

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00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 3: How do you tell him, no, that's not going to work.

1251
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't tell and he's gone. Then he'll regret it.

1252
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: Goes Stry requested trade, as we've seen with some of

1253
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: the star players.

1254
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 4: Around the league.

1255
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: So this is going to be a very interesting situation

1256
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: once these finals are over, which could be Monday night.

1257
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 4: Who knows.

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00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: We're going to take a quick break here, but when

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Speaker 2: we come back. Statues speeches in mind game. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to Fox Sports Radio. Hey, welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 5: our social media. She is Alex Underscore Curry and I

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Speaker 5: am Carmeie V. You be Victor like Dicky V. That's

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Speaker 5: what I modeled it after I did twenty twelve my

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Speaker 5: online media class in college in the state. They made

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Speaker 5: us get a Twitter and Dicky V was already you know,

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Speaker 5: like we have we have similar class names.

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Speaker 4: And I love it. Yeah, yeah, there's a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit of and so it's stuck ever since. And I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for hanging out with Karmie and me. I

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00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: say it like in every one of our intros.

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00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 5: I was at Ryan Jensen's retirement party a couple of

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Speaker 5: weeks ago, and literally the players that were there.

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Speaker 2: Like Cardie, well, yeah, I feel I feel like when

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00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: it's your social media name, that's what people.

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Speaker 4: Know you as.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Always.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to Wednesday night this week, because

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00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: the Patriots inducted Tom Brady into their Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: It was a star studded event. Jay Z opened the show,

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00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: but let me just say, whoever's on that fog machine,

1303
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 2: what a little overboard over You can see jay z seconds.

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Speaker 3: Performance, but it made his entrance that much well, it was,

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I hear it sounds like he's live,

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Speaker 2: but I don't actually see him, right, Is he there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got a.

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Speaker 3: Like rapping along.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See while he was walking back, him and jay Z

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01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 3: were like rapping back and forth.

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Speaker 4: It was, Yes, it was.

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Speaker 2: There were so many really cool moments about this night,

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01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: Like first, I want to give a shout out to

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01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 2: Tom's speech because he absolutely I mean, he's slay And

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01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: did we think.

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Speaker 4: It was going to be anything other than amazing because

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01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 4: he is the goat. The quote that like.

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Speaker 2: Went around for everybody was like, to be successful at anything,

1321
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: you don't have to be special, you just have to

1322
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: be what most people aren't, consistent, determined and willing to

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Speaker 2: work for it. There was also another moment where he

1324
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: was talking about Bill Belichick. And he's like, it wasn't you,

1325
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: it wasn't me, It was us, and no one can

1326
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: tell us otherwise. I get chills every time. I love

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01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: little things like that. And we've gotten a couple of

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01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: cool moments now inside like the respect relationship, because obviously

1329
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: we know they never had dinner together, and they never

1330
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 2: went and played golf together when they were working together,

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01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: but there was always that mutual respect.

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Speaker 4: We're really there was very.

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01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 3: Clear boundaries between head coach and quarterback.

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01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like we've now kind of gotten like an

1335
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: inside look of the respect that they had for each

1336
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: other between the roast and now this Hall of Fame situation.

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01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: But there was another cool moment with Peyton Manning, who

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01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: was Brady's biggest rival during their careers. They faced each

1339
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 2: other what seventeen times combined for nine Super Bowls, eight

1340
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 2: league MVPs, and Manning was in attendance and he shared

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01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: a story at the ceremony where he said, Tom, let's

1342
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 2: get together. Let's go under the radar, don't tell anybody

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01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: we're coming in. And then of course Tom flies in

1344
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: on mister Kraft's private plane. But they lifted weights together,

1345
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: they threw together with these high school receivers.

1346
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 4: They said, they took.

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01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: Their phones away and if you tell anybody Tom and

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01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 2: I are working together, then we're friends.

1349
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Speaker 4: Were going to kill you.

1350
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: But like, I would have just loved to have been

1351
01:01:54,400 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: a fly on that wall during that workout, like what

1352
01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: do you.

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01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 4: What are you talking about? What are you doing this?

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01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 4: Is this a respect thing?

1355
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 2: Is this a mind game to try to Like if

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01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 2: you're friendly with them during the off season, then maybe

1357
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: I can get inside your brain during the regular season.

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01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 4: Are you observing?

1359
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 3: Are you like?

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01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 4: There's so many questions I have here.

1361
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Speaker 2: And we know that Tom is an extremely mental mind

1362
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: game mass so was Peyton manning.

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Speaker 5: Yes, no, this was It's all of the above. These guys,

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01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 5: I feel like they know at this point they were

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01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 5: in the height of their careers. What Peyton said, they

1366
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 5: are the ultimate competitors, but they also just love football

1367
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 5: and they wanted their legacies are so important to them

1368
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 5: and what their legacies did for the game itself huge

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Speaker 5: And in order to have the best competition, you need

1370
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 5: to learn from each other. And I feel like that

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01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 5: was part of the whole process. Is Tom never stopped learning,

1372
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 5: never stopped learning. Going back to the speech that Tom gave. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Like he talked about how hard football is, yes, and

1374
01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:59,959
Speaker 5: how much it teaches you and all.

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01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 4: They that should be playing sports.

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01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 3: That's why he loves the game. And I feel like

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Speaker 3: Peyton is very similar.

1378
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 5: But also so when I was with the Bucks, Yeah,

1379
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 5: and when we won the Super Bowl, Tom Brady came

1380
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 5: in with Tom Brady.

1381
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 3: Tom Brady comes in. It's the COVID year.

1382
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 5: It's all this crazy stuff, so like we didn't have

1383
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 5: the access that we usually have.

1384
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 3: Ye, so I had to get most of these accounts secondhand.

1385
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, like it used to be before COVID that I

1386
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 5: was allowed, like in the locker room right after the game.

1387
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 5: I could hear the speeches, I could do all that

1388
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 5: kind of stuff.

1389
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 11: Whatever.

1390
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 3: That didn't happen that year.

1391
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 5: And now there is this lure that I found out

1392
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 5: about at the Super Bowl after party where Tom didn't

1393
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 5: really speak the entire season what like I mean like

1394
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 5: he talked to his like, he didn't he didn't rally.

1395
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 5: He left it up to other people to rally the

1396
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 5: troops for most of the season.

1397
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Speaker 3: Huh.

1398
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 5: There was a few select times where he did. Yeah,

1399
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 5: he said some stuff before the Super Bowl. Yeah, I

1400
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 5: heard from so many different players that came up to

1401
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 5: me and told me you should have heard Tom's speech. Yeah,

1402
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 5: And I was like what, And They're like, what was

1403
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 5: it about? They're like, we can't even do it justice.

1404
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 5: It was a generational I have never heard anything like

1405
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 5: this before, the way that the war and the legend

1406
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 5: of this speech just emulated throughout the entire party.

1407
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 3: Everybody started to hear.

1408
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 5: About this absolutely insane speech ye that Tom Brady rattled

1409
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 5: off before the game, before the game that fired them

1410
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 5: up so much to the point where the Chiefs didn't

1411
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 5: even score a touchdown in that game, and I know

1412
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 5: the offensive line we rout. I don't want to hear

1413
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 5: it that perfectly encapsulated who Tom Brady was and likes

1414
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 5: to see it. Then in his Patriots Hall of Fame

1415
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 5: induction where he just galvanized all of us that watched it.

1416
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 5: I mean, nobody wants to keep hearing about how wonderful

1417
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 5: Tom Brady is, but like he really was that out.

1418
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 4: What do you mean? He is the goat?

1419
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: He has more Super Bowl rings than any single franchise.

1420
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, which is why people don't want to

1421
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 5: hear about him that, Like he has been this dude

1422
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 5: all the way through.

1423
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 2: And he wasn't the best team, he didn't have the

1424
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 2: strongest arm, he wasn't the fastest guy out there.

1425
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 5: But like for that that, like he won the Super

1426
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,919
Speaker 5: Bowl with the Bucks, yeah the first year he was there.

1427
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 5: Uh huh, and he like I just I can't tell

1428
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 5: you how these guys like, I swear there were tears

1429
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 5: in some of these guys eyes.

1430
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, when they were telling me about this speech after

1431
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 3: the fact.

1432
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's why. That another reason as to why

1433
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 4: he is the go And are we surprised?

1434
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 11: No?

1435
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 2: And now with Tom coming over to our Fox Sports broadcast,

1436
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 2: I'm excited to hear more of these inside, behind the

1437
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 2: scenes stories because like we're gonna get a whole.

1438
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 4: New side of Tom.

1439
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 11: Oh.

1440
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 3: And he's funny too.

1441
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 4: I'm ready for it.

1442
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 3: He's funny.

1443
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 4: I am ready for it. All right. Now, let's check

1444
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 4: in with Nick Copensee. What's trippy? All right?

1445
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 10: Thank you very much. Us open a lot of competition.

1446
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 10: They're about to head onto the back nine. Matthew Pavaughn

1447
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 10: is the solo leader, the Frenchman at six under.

1448
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: He's done well today.

1449
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 10: Three under four is round. But a lot of familiar

1450
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 10: names on the later, Tony Fenut, Bryson de Shamba, and

1451
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 10: the newcomer Ludwig Obern, who finished second at the Masters.

1452
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 10: They are all tied for second, one shot back of

1453
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 10: Pavon Roy McElroy two shots off the pace at four under.

1454
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 10: One of the best performers today, Colin moric Cowa. He

1455
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 10: shot four under today, giving himself a chance he is

1456
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 10: even par for the entire tournament. Elsewhere in the NFL

1457
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 10: reports a Bengals receiver T Higgins has signed his franchise

1458
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 10: tag and is expected to report to training camp next month,

1459
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 10: but a long term deal for him is considered unlikely

1460
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 10: at this point. Coming up tonight at eight eastern, we've

1461
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 10: got Game four of the Stanley Cup Final, the Panthers

1462
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 10: trying to become the first team to sweep the final

1463
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 10: since the Red Wings did it to the Capitals back

1464
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 10: in nineteen ninety eight. In baseball, the Orioles placed right

1465
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 10: hander Kyle Bradish on the fifteen day injured list with

1466
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 10: a ucl sprain to his elbow. A couple of finals

1467
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 10: on the diamond, the Blue Jays just finished off a

1468
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 10: shutout of the Guardians five to nothing. In Toronto, Cubs

1469
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 10: handled the Cardinals five to one. Yoda Imanaga struck out

1470
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 10: six and seven innings. Twins and a's were postponed due

1471
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 10: to reign in the Twin Cities. They'll play a doubleheader

1472
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 10: tomorrow at College World Series. Has been great so far.

1473
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 10: In a great game today, Kentucky and NC State tied

1474
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 10: at four, last of the ninth, the winning run on

1475
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 10: third here with two ounce for Kentucky. Also have a

1476
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 10: Florida and Texas A and M that'll play coming up

1477
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 10: at seven Eastern.

1478
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: Alex carme back to you.

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01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 4: Ah, thank you neck.

1480
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. M Alex Curry here

1481
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live from the Tyre

1482
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: dot Com studios in Los Angeles and it's time for

1483
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: another edition of Mini Camp Round Up and Carmen.

1484
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well, well where is Aaron Rodgers.

1485
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 2: He did not show up to the mandatory mini camp

1486
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 2: this week after giving a speech you guys that they

1487
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: needed to be focusing on winning and fully committed to football.

1488
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 4: Now, this is what he said.

1489
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 2: Anything in this build that we're doing that has nothing

1490
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: to do with winning needs to be assessed.

1491
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 4: Everything that we do has to have a purpose.

1492
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 2: The BS has nothing to do with winning, has to

1493
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: get out of the building. He took that literally, but

1494
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 2: he's literally not in the building. He's literally not in

1495
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 2: the building for mandatory, mandatory mini camps. So let's break

1496
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: this down of why it's shocking but also very on

1497
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: brand for Rogers.

1498
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 4: Like no, like he gave that quote at the end

1499
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 4: of last season.

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01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 3: Which heated yea in January.

1501
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 2: Four snaps before snapping his achilles with this team, so like,

1502
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 2: there has been so much.

1503
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 3: A team that gave up a lot to get him

1504
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 3: and gave him a.

1505
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 2: Lot everything, everything preaching about making football your priority, and

1506
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 2: here he is in his first opportunity to like really

1507
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 2: be with the team war mandatory yeah camp, and he's

1508
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 2: not making it a priority. I know he is not

1509
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: making it a priority. And the justin Aaron Rodgers have

1510
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 2: a lot to prove this season their favorite in fourteen

1511
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 2: of their games, they are in six primetime games. And

1512
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: again we have only seen four snaps from Aaron Rodgers in.

1513
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 3: The Jets uniform.

1514
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 5: So like Charles McDonald said it too, like from a

1515
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 5: football standpoint, yeah, this doesn't matter because he was at OTA's,

1516
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 5: which is not something that he had done for the

1517
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 5: last few years with the Packers, he made sure that

1518
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 5: he was there for everything. So like two days of

1519
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 5: mandatory mini camp in a vacuum, Yeah, doesn't matter. This

1520
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 5: guy's been playing for twenty years, Like, does not matter.

1521
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 5: That's not the point, right, Yeah, here's the thing. You

1522
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 5: can't go out and say that everything that you know

1523
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 5: that doesn't have to do with winning has to be

1524
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 5: out of the building and then be out of the

1525
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 5: building for mandatory mini camp.

1526
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 3: Also, you fed Robert salag your head coach to the Wolves.

1527
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 5: Yes, the New York media is no joke, No, and

1528
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 5: like from being a team player, stamp Like from that standpoint,

1529
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 5: this is so like it's just it's one thing after

1530
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 5: another with Rogers and like even if whatever or he's

1531
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 5: doing is important, it doesn't sound like the Jets were

1532
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 5: given a heads up. You fed your head coach and

1533
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 5: undermines your head coach in front of the New York media,

1534
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 5: Like you put your players in position to have to

1535
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 5: answer for your actions, which is the absolute antithesis of

1536
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 5: a leader. Like this is not being a leader at all.

1537
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 5: And you are the veteran, you are the quarterback, you

1538
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 5: are the captain of this team. You have we talk

1539
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 5: about how much influence NBA players have in the NFL.

1540
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers has arguably the most influence of any single

1541
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 5: player still playing in the league right now. He got

1542
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 5: them to hire Nathaniel Hackett, he got them to hire

1543
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 5: his friends in Randall Cobb and whoever else that wouldn't

1544
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 5: have a job if it wasn't for him being on

1545
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 5: a roster. This when you demand all of these things,

1546
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 5: you need to be able to give back, and Aaron

1547
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 5: Rodgers doesn't hold up his end of the bargain almost ever.

1548
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: Once again, you're talking about the Jets and Aaron Rodgers

1549
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 2: and it has nothing to do with the football. That's

1550
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 2: the part that's mind blowing to me. Like, if this

1551
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: is something you knew that you were going to do,

1552
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 2: that you were aware of, get ahead of it. Let

1553
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: everybody knows, Hey, is he not going to be at

1554
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: mandatory mini camp.

1555
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 4: We're all aware. We don't need to address it. It's

1556
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 4: none of your business.

1557
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 5: And also if it is important, even if it is

1558
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 5: your like, if it is important, just tell people what

1559
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 5: it is.

1560
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're literally in the Where's waldo of

1561
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 2: where is Aaron Rodgers right now?

1562
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 4: And it's a hot topic. Of conversation, So maybe that's

1563
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 4: what he wanted.

1564
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 5: No, Aaron can't go more than a month without being

1565
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 5: in the new cycle.

1566
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 3: He just can't. It's it's calculated at this point.

1567
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 2: Then let's move on and let's move to the Chargers

1568
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: because they've got their eyes on winning this season after

1569
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: hiring Jim Harbaugh And in case anybody forgot, Harball will

1570
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 2: be the fourth head coach that Justin Herbert has played

1571
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 2: under in his four seasons, and he spoke recently about

1572
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: playing for Harba.

1573
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 4: Let's listen to that.

1574
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:58,919
Speaker 1: He's a competitor.

1575
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 6: You know, he's done such a great job taking this

1576
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 6: team and getting them to where he wants them to go.

1577
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 6: You know, he's won wherever he's at.

1578
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: He's a guy that everyone wants to follow him play for.

1579
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm so really excited to get to play for him.

1580
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 2: So you can already feel that there is a shift

1581
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: in the Chargers because there's a respect right now on

1582
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: both ends and they have belief that they can win.

1583
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 4: Because we heard from Harbaugh at camp this week. We

1584
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 4: heard Herbal.

1585
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 3: Talked about.

1586
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 5: You don't have our guys, guys everything you want and

1587
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 5: all that wonderful thought stuff.

1588
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 3: So I don't know about Justin Herbert.

1589
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, that gives me hope.

1590
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 2: They're also like they were five and twelve last season,

1591
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 2: so I definitely think they're going to turn that around.

1592
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: But they also have a new looking offense, right they

1593
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: don't have Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Austin Eckler. They're in

1594
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: a tough division again, like Chiefs been the best team

1595
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 2: in the Chiefs the Chiefs.

1596
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the Broncos are in a new direction.

1597
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 2: You have Sean Payton finally getting his choice of a

1598
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 2: quarterback with a lot to prove as well.

1599
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 4: Raiders also new beginning. But who knows.

1600
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: How much of a jump do you think Justin Herbert

1601
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 2: can take with a winning coach like Carboss.

1602
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 5: So I'll tell you why I think this might work,

1603
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 5: And it actually doesn't have a lot to do with

1604
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 5: Justin Herbert, which kind of goes back on I mean,

1605
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 5: I think Justin Herbert's a penomenal quarterback. He has not

1606
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 5: been given a fairshake. He is still young to I

1607
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 5: fully expect his career to continue to blossom. But why

1608
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,839
Speaker 5: I think this might work is because Harbaugh is zigging

1609
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 5: while the rest of the league is zagging.

1610
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 4: What he's always done.

1611
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 5: Football is cyclical, So it's become a passing league, right, Well,

1612
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 5: that's not the brand of football that Jim Harbaugh plays.

1613
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 3: He plays that smash mouth.

1614
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 5: Downhill power run game where you have a quarterback that

1615
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 5: compliments the smash mouth football. And with the passing league,

1616
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 5: defenses have evolved to be lighter and faster and a

1617
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 5: little bit more complex, but they're not equipped to account

1618
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 5: for a running game like Jim Harbaugh could deploy in

1619
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,799
Speaker 5: the NFL based on what he did at Michigan.

1620
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 3: So I have to think.

1621
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 5: That this will this will at least tell us like

1622
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 5: where the league is going, because you look in San

1623
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 5: Francisco and what Kyle Shanahan can do and he's constantly evolving,

1624
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 5: but his offenses are predicated on that pro set the

1625
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 5: twenty one personnel.

1626
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 3: You have multiple running backs on the field, weapons.

1627
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 5: A lot of weapons, but a lot of versatile weapons

1628
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 5: that you can deploy in different ways, which makes it

1629
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 5: hard for defenses to defend you in the way that

1630
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,560
Speaker 5: now Jim Harbaugh. If you have like kind of a

1631
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 5: running back by committee, which kind of seems like what

1632
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,879
Speaker 5: they're about to do, yep, you have to have defenses

1633
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 5: account for multiple running backs on top of Justin Herbert,

1634
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 5: who is an athletic quarterback. He can scramble. He's not

1635
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 5: really a running quarterback, but he will he'll scramble. But

1636
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 5: he also has an arm. So you have now a

1637
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 5: multifaceted offense that is different than what most teams deploy

1638
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 5: these days.

1639
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 3: And I just think that maybe it could work.

1640
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna work. Also, like we're going to

1641
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: really get to see Justin Herbert. Right, We've been giving

1642
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 2: him the benefit of the doubt these last four seasons

1643
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: because he hasn't had that consistency, and he's had four

1644
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: coaches over four seasons, and like that, as we're hearing now,

1645
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: like there wasn't that respect, there was turmoil there.

1646
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 4: What they weren't on the same page.

1647
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 3: Now we also had a head coach, so.

1648
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: Exactly now there is no excuse. Chargers schedule. They kind

1649
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 2: of have a slow roll into the season versus Panthers

1650
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 2: or Raiders. Panthers Steelers before Chiefs in their fourth week

1651
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 2: and then by week five, so I mean they have

1652
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: kind of a three game a really early by but

1653
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 2: three game warm up to get ready.

1654
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 5: But let's let's let's make sure that we're playing the

1655
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 5: foundation and not expecting too much in the first year

1656
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 5: because it still is a jurasically different system, a new coach.

1657
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 4: All other stuff. Top coach, top quarterback.

1658
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put expectations on like

1659
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: a winning season.

1660
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 4: I'll do that, all right.

1661
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna take one more break here, but when we

1662
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 2: come back, it's our feel good story of the week.

1663
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 4: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1664
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 2: We'll gome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry

1665
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,799
Speaker 2: here with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live from attire

1666
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 2: dot com Studios in Los Angeles. Thank you for spending

1667
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 2: the last two hours. Variety of carme and me. Oh yeah,

1668
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: the music. Yeah, it's been a good one today.

1669
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 3: We love a variety.

1670
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 4: It's been a.

1671
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 2: Good one today. You one else was fun to watch

1672
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 2: this week. We had a lot of like member Berry's, Like, oh,

1673
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 2: member Tom Brady with the Patriots week, I've never heard

1674
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 2: that Member Berry's. Yeah, No, oh, you don't watch South Park.

1675
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 2: There's like a whole thing about Like.

1676
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't watched it in years.

1677
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 2: Hey, Mamma Sta Walls Mamma tat twas the whole thing.

1678
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 5: I was called Cartman when it first came out all

1679
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 5: the time, and it made me like not want to

1680
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 5: lie as a Carmen because of Carmen. So like in

1681
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 5: grade school when south Park first came out, I couldn't

1682
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 5: escape that.

1683
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: It's really funny because I used to like Tim Salmon

1684
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 2: when I worked with the Angels, I'd be.

1685
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 4: I'd call him Be and he was like, what is that.

1686
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 4: I was like, just watch, just watch south Park. It's

1687
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 4: Tim Dima. I can't I love it. We're big south

1688
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 4: Park people. But anyho.

1689
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 2: The member Berrys this week are coming off back to

1690
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 2: back Super Bowl wins, looking to become the first team

1691
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 2: to try to three p but they unveiled their Super

1692
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 2: Bowl rings five hundred and twenty nine diamonds, thirty eight rubies,

1693
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 2: the removable top with the game women winning Tom and

1694
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 2: Jerry play design engraved on the top of the ring

1695
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 2: and then on the bottom it was like a field

1696
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 2: with like player ponds in the bottom and then says.

1697
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 3: Back to back fetty pieces, was that like little I.

1698
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:32,879
Speaker 4: Thought they were supposed to be players.

1699
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 5: Well, I thought they were like in the shape of

1700
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 5: the Lombardi Trophy, and I thought that they were just like,

1701
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 5: see this is what you went too much?

1702
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 4: Too much, you have no idea.

1703
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 2: I thought they were like little like you know when

1704
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 2: you play those games like they it remind me of

1705
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 2: those Yeah, remind me of like little like I thought.

1706
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 3: Lombardi trophies and it supposed to be like confetti on the field.

1707
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 4: I love this. I love that.

1708
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 2: Like whatever, the ring's insane, there's also a typo which

1709
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 2: we talked about earlier, which is a proof.

1710
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 5: That you've won too much because you don't take designing

1711
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 5: these rings series too many.

1712
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 4: But like they have won three super.

1713
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 3: Bowls in Patrick Mahomes in their last.

1714
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 2: Five years in the Patrick Mahome era, and the only

1715
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 2: time they've really been challenged was like Tom Brady the

1716
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: one we just talked about, ye and then yes and

1717
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: then Joe Burrow losing in the AFC Championship Game. But

1718
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 2: I the question is like, can they threepete because we

1719
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: haven't seen that.

1720
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 4: Now.

1721
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 2: We just heard Jason Kelsey share that he's not retiring

1722
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 2: anytime soon.

1723
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 3: He mean Travis Kelsey.

1724
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, what I said, Travis Kelsey, thank you, thank you.

1725
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: I was just watching I was watching like one of

1726
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 2: their clips, like probably when I was doing this, and

1727
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 2: like wrote down Jason Travis not retiring anytime soon, and

1728
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 2: he's going to keep playing until the wheels fall off,

1729
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 2: which they kind of are a little bit like he has.

1730
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 2: He hasn't been one hundred percent hen for the post

1731
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 2: the last couple of seasons. He's turning thirty five, and

1732
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going to say, and I've learned the hard way.

1733
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: As long as Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, Travis Kelcey are

1734
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 2: all working together, you.

1735
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 4: Can't count them out. No, I mean supposed to, cannot

1736
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 4: count them out.

1737
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 5: This is supposed to be a down year for the

1738
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 5: Chiefs and they still won the Super Bowl. So it's

1739
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 5: like it's over for all of you in the NFL.

1740
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 5: Like if if Patrick Mahomes was able to will this

1741
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 5: team to a Super Bowl, which.

1742
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 4: Again with new like rookie weapons, yeah, with.

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01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 5: Quote unquote no name weapons other than Travis Kelsey, Like

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01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 5: he is one of one in so many different ways,

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01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 5: because there are quarterbacks that are willing their teams to

1746
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 5: super Bowls. You can will your team in the regular season,

1747
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:37,959
Speaker 5: as we've seen with Dak Prescott.

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01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 4: They were talking about earlier.

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01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 5: Exactly, But when the postseason rolls around, the margin for

1750
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 5: error is so small, yeah, that you don't see people

1751
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 5: being able to do it all by themselves because it

1752
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 5: is the ultimate team game. That all went out the

1753
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 5: window with Patrick Mahomes this last year where you were like,

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01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 5: all right, this is the one year that the Chiefs

1755
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 5: are vulnerable. You've got so much turnover, You've got young

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01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 5: guys that no one really knows like you. Also, you

1757
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 5: don't have a ton of them like the Packers had

1758
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 5: young guys, but like a ton of them, so you

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01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 5: really never knew how to defend them because you didn't

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01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 5: know who was gonna pop off.

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01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 4: But what to do with Jordan Love This was like

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01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 4: the first time we're seeing him in a full season.

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01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 3: But like the Chiefs weren't like that.

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01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 5: The Chiefs had relatively no name players like Darius Tony

1765
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 5: is still like one of the guys that's relevant on

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01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 5: your team roster, Like that's just wild to me. And

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01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 5: you still won the Super Bowl, Like this was your chance, NFL,

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01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 5: this was your chance to knock them all. Yeah, lamar,

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01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, but like this was your chance.

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01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: They thought everybody thought everyone was picking against and.

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01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,879
Speaker 5: The Samferd that's going forty nine ers and like Kyle Shanahan,

1772
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 5: this was your chance.

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01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 2: Now what like you can you cannot. You cannot tell

1774
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 2: me that you're counting them out, Like no, they can't

1775
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 2: do it.

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01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 4: They're not gonna three p They're not going to do this.

1777
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 4: Do you not remember last year?

1778
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 2: Do you have that short of a memory where everyone

1779
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 2: was like, nop, this is the year the Chiefs aren't

1780
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 2: gonna do it. And this would seven apart hardest, like

1781
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 2: worst season in his career, and this was.

1782
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 3: Seven apart from the Patriots dynasty.

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01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 5: This would set to Patrick Mahome would like apart from

1784
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 5: in six years, I mean, the Pats won three and

1785
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,759
Speaker 5: four whatever it was, but they didn't win back.

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01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 4: To back to back three pet three peat.

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01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 3: Chiefs could do it, and sheeps are very easily.

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01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for spending your Saturday afternoon with us.

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01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 2: We'll see it next week, same time, same place.

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01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 4: Have a great weekend,