Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast.
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Speaker 2: bet together it went bet Eric Aallan with Peter King.
Speaker 2: We are here inside the studio at one Jets Draw. Peter,
Speaker 2: how many years is this for you on the training
Speaker 2: camp circuit?
Speaker 3: Well, this is my fortieth year, Eric, covering the NFL
Speaker 3: fortieth season. I should say my first year was nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty four, covering the Cincinnati Bengals, and it was slightly
Speaker 3: different in those days because virtually every day of a
Speaker 3: six week training camp in Wilmington, Ohio, which as I'm
Speaker 3: sure you well know, is the corn capital of Ohio.
Speaker 3: And to say it was warm and toasty there virtually
Speaker 3: every day, I'm just glad I didn't have to play
Speaker 3: in it. Because the majority of days the Bengals had
Speaker 3: two a days. They would practice from nine to eleven
Speaker 3: in the morning three to five in the afternoon. And
Speaker 3: I don't know why this sticks out to me, but
Speaker 3: the majority of practices were in pads, and I just
Speaker 3: thought to myself, this is really a hard job. And
Speaker 3: I remember one day because for those who are big
Speaker 3: fans of this game, the one thing in my career
Speaker 3: that I truly regret is how many times I thought
Speaker 3: to myself, I'm standing with Paul Brown, who is the
Speaker 3: owner of the Bengals. I'm standing with Paul Brown watching
Speaker 3: football practice, and I'm not writing anything down. I'm just
Speaker 3: talking to him. I bet forty times that summer I
Speaker 3: watched practice, the majority of practice with Paul Brown. And
Speaker 3: I just consider myself highly, highly, highly fortunate to have
Speaker 3: begun my career in an environment like that. And look
Speaker 3: the other one thing I'll tell you about training camps
Speaker 3: and how they've changed. My first year. It was either
Speaker 3: eighty four or eighty five that I went to the
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers camp in Latrobe. The PR guy there, Joe Gordon,
Speaker 3: I said, I want to talk to a couple of players.
Speaker 3: So he gave me some options. I said, I'd love
Speaker 3: to talk to Mike Webster, and so he said, Okay,
Speaker 3: he's in room two fifty four over in the dorm.
Speaker 3: Just go over there and knock on the door. He'll
Speaker 3: answer and he'll let you in.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: I mean, how access Eric, It's times have changed just
Speaker 3: slightly in covering the National Football League.
Speaker 2: So fourtieth summer here, the Jets are your first stop
Speaker 2: you have the veteran I what do you look for when.
Speaker 1: You come to a camp like the Jets.
Speaker 3: I took the lazy way out. I watched Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: for an hour and forty minutes because I just wanted
Speaker 3: to see what he did, who he talked to, what
Speaker 3: he does. And there's a couple of things that occurred
Speaker 3: to me. One is I think the Jets are really
Speaker 3: lucky to have the defense that they do, because it
Speaker 3: reminds me of the the cliche the iron sharpens iron cliche,
Speaker 3: because Rogers is so precise with his throws that look
Speaker 3: in practice he is going This is not the scattershooting
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson where he's not the most accurate guy, at
Speaker 3: least at this point in his career. It is one
Speaker 3: of the most accurate throwers of the football in the
Speaker 3: one hundred and five year history, one hundred and four
Speaker 3: year history of the NFL. And so Sauce Gardner is
Speaker 3: going to have a good experience here. The whole secondary's
Speaker 3: gonna have a good experience. It's because during the week
Speaker 3: they are going to be able to prepare for Josh
Speaker 3: Allen into a tongue Aloe and Mac Jones and Dak
Speaker 3: Prescott and whoever else is on their schedule because they
Speaker 3: will not face a more accurate passer.
Speaker 1: And it just.
Speaker 3: Occurred to me watching this it was hard for Rogers
Speaker 3: to complete a past in this practice. I saw, very hard.
Speaker 3: And the reason is that is a damn good secondary
Speaker 3: and in my opinion, it's going to do major favors
Speaker 3: for both of them.
Speaker 2: Now, the practice session that you watched, Garrett Wilson accided
Speaker 2: early he was getting his ankle looked at. Yeah, Robert
Speaker 2: Sala thinks everything's fine there. Corey Davis also out with
Speaker 2: a viral illness. What is the restruction of Rogers' contract?
Speaker 2: What kind of message does that send internally and maybe
Speaker 2: throughout the league as well?
Speaker 3: You know, I asked him about it, and he basically said,
Speaker 3: because look, a lot of players restructure their contracts, but
Speaker 3: they don't say to the team, hey, here's thirty five
Speaker 3: million dollars back or whatever the number is. I've seen
Speaker 3: the reports and I don't know. I asked him about it,
Speaker 3: and he didn't wasn't specific and exactly what he had
Speaker 3: given up. But clearly, if he had done nothing with
Speaker 3: this contract, he would have made a lot more money
Speaker 3: over the life of this contract, but he also would
Speaker 3: have severely hamstrung the Jets. And my feeling about it
Speaker 3: is it reminds me a lot of what Tom Brady
Speaker 3: used to do when I forget what year it was,
Speaker 3: but after one of his Super Bowl years, his compensation
Speaker 3: that year he was going to be the twenty third
Speaker 3: highest paid quarterback, and you just say, well, you know,
Speaker 3: and Brady's whole attitude was, look, if they're spending to
Speaker 3: the cap, if they're taking this money and going to
Speaker 3: spend to the cap, I'm fine with it. And plus,
Speaker 3: we all know quarterbacks in the NFL, especially ones who
Speaker 3: win Super Bowls, can walk out of their homes and
Speaker 3: sign an hour's worth of autographs and make a million
Speaker 3: dollars or whatever the silly sum is. So it's almost like,
Speaker 3: I'm sure, and Aaron Rodgers said, this is what makes
Speaker 3: me happy. I did this because I wanted to do it.
Speaker 3: Nobody forced me to do anything. I wanted to do this,
Speaker 3: and so I think it should probably endear him even more.
Speaker 3: I would think that the fan base is swooning over
Speaker 3: him as it is, but that should probably endear him
Speaker 3: even more to the fan base.
Speaker 1: It's the honeymoon stage right. Yeah, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: But he said it repeatedly that he's having a blast here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just talked to him within the last hour.
Speaker 1: Do you sense that.
Speaker 3: I think he because I talked to him. We talked
Speaker 3: openly about how you said this offseason, I'm ninety percent retiring,
Speaker 3: and so I've thought all off season, what a risky
Speaker 3: deal for the Jets. Joe Douglas man if Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: if the Jets finished nine to eight, and Aaron Rodgers says,
Speaker 3: I'm not having fun, I'm retiring. I mean, it's not
Speaker 3: going to be a good look for Joe Douglas or
Speaker 3: for the Jets. But it sounds very much like Rogers
Speaker 3: is going to play at least two more years. So
Speaker 3: it sounds like now. But Eric, a lot of things
Speaker 3: can be he said in a honeymoon period, A lot
Speaker 3: of things can be said in July. You look back
Speaker 3: in February and you look back and you say, boy,
Speaker 3: was that sounds naive now? So you don't know. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm like everybody else, I would anticipate Rogers. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying he was delirious. He's a pensive human being. But
Speaker 3: he definitely is is really really enjoying it. And you know, Eric,
Speaker 3: one of the things he talked a lot about, he said, listen,
Speaker 3: I've never played for a defensive head coach before, and
Speaker 3: I really like this Robert saw and he said, I
Speaker 3: like him because we talk. I might come up with
Speaker 3: an idea and he might take the idea and do it.
Speaker 3: And sometimes he might say it's a good idea, We're
Speaker 3: not going to do that. And Rogers had a big
Speaker 3: smile on his face, and he goes, I kind of
Speaker 3: love that. I just want somebody to listen to me
Speaker 3: and then let's talk about it and then do what
Speaker 3: you want to do. I just want to be heard,
Speaker 3: you know. And I got the distinct impression that Robert
Speaker 3: Salah and Joe Douglas, he feels are excellent sounding boards
Speaker 3: for his idea. He also talked very, very admiringly of
Speaker 3: Joe Douglas. And look, it's clear, all right, the Green
Speaker 3: Bay Packers do things one way, okay. Brian Gudakutz, the
Speaker 3: general manager, I think, by his peers, by people who
Speaker 3: work there, by almost everybody in the building, is a
Speaker 3: highly regarded guy. And I think Aaron Rodgers chafed at
Speaker 3: times with the fact that they didn't have his open
Speaker 3: line of communications. That's been very clear, widely reported. But
Speaker 3: I also think that the Packers have a way of
Speaker 3: doing things, and it's very difficult, isn't it to sit
Speaker 3: back here and say, well, the Packers' way is my
Speaker 3: way or the highway. So that's not the right way
Speaker 3: to do it. Well, for the last thirty thirty five years,
Speaker 3: how's that way worked pretty damn good. And so I
Speaker 3: just think, you know, as Rogers told me, he goes,
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes it's just time. And I think and
Speaker 3: he said that pretty much since he signed here, and
Speaker 3: I think he felt like it was just time. And
Speaker 3: I think it was smart. He knew it, The Packers
Speaker 3: knew it, because, make no mistake about it, you know,
Speaker 3: he felt it. The Packers wanted Jordan Love to play
Speaker 3: after a lot of their communication issues with Rogers early
Speaker 3: in this offseason. Right or wrong, fair, unfair, That's the
Speaker 3: way they went. And it's eerily, incredibly bizarrely familiar in
Speaker 3: all ways to fifteen years ago when Brett Favre came here,
Speaker 3: and it's it's the exact same story all over again.
Speaker 3: A guy sits on the pines for three years after
Speaker 3: being drafted low in the first round. Aaron Rodgers did
Speaker 3: it two thousand and five, six and seven. Now Jordan
Speaker 3: Love has done it twenty twenty one, twenty two. Now
Speaker 3: it's Jordan Love's time. And you know, I think that
Speaker 3: there is kind of a lot of poetic justice in
Speaker 3: what happened. And I believe that Aaron Rodgers will give
Speaker 3: the Jets more time than Brett Farv did.
Speaker 1: Far of and O wait, Jets started eight and three,
Speaker 1: then he got.
Speaker 3: You remember the eleventh game, the eleventh game against Tennessee.
Speaker 3: The Titans, undefeated, were ten and zero in Nashville. The
Speaker 3: Jets beat them nine hundred to nothing. And that was
Speaker 3: And how crazy is this? Who's on the offensive staff
Speaker 3: of the New York Jets then Brian Dabole. And it's
Speaker 3: just there's so many great storylines about Farv, Rogers, Jets, Jets, Packers, Packers.
Speaker 3: It's just it's a cool, cool story.
Speaker 2: Do you think the Jets enter this season with a
Speaker 2: target on their back? Because listen, everybody, to a man,
Speaker 2: they know the steps they took last year.
Speaker 1: It's also a talented roster.
Speaker 2: Now you add a former four time NFL MVP who's
Speaker 2: ready to roll and had not it been for the
Speaker 2: injuries and then stability at quarterback last year.
Speaker 1: The Jets are a playoff team.
Speaker 2: But you get a sense, at least from here that
Speaker 2: a lot of people are saying, okay, Jets, go out
Speaker 2: and prove it. Where I don't know if anybody has
Speaker 2: said anything Outland is coming from Florida Park.
Speaker 3: No, I'll tell you this, and it's look, Eric, you
Speaker 3: know everyone in this building. They're going to be amiable,
Speaker 3: They're going to be pleasant to everybody from NFL films.
Speaker 1: Here to do hard knocks.
Speaker 3: The Jets are dreading going through this training camp with
Speaker 3: hard knocks. You know, cameras on them, and I don't
Speaker 3: blame him. This is not the time for them to
Speaker 3: be shouting from the rooftops. Hey look at us, and
Speaker 3: they don't want to. Robert Sala definitely doesn't want to.
Speaker 3: Rogers definitely doesn't want to. But you know, and look,
Speaker 3: I'm not down on hard knocks, but I do think
Speaker 3: had I been the NFL in look, they're gonna get
Speaker 3: some nice stuff. They always do. They're gonna get some
Speaker 3: nice stuff, But I would want hard knocks in my place.
Speaker 3: If I had something that I wanted to show, I
Speaker 3: wanted to prove whatever, like to me this year, like
Speaker 3: wasn't it? It was Detroit last year and Detroit was fantastic.
Speaker 3: Those were good shows because that was a team that said,
Speaker 3: ah the spotlight, let's have it. And let me just
Speaker 3: say this, I think a fantastic team this year would
Speaker 3: have been Washington, you know, with you know, the honeymoon
Speaker 3: of the new owner and the ding Dong Witch, the
Speaker 3: Witch is Dead stuff with Snyder and some real hope
Speaker 3: for the first time in forever. And again look, as
Speaker 3: I said, they will have some moments with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: And of course everybody in the NFL said the only
Speaker 3: team we wanted was the Jets, and I believe that,
Speaker 3: but I think they're gonna have a hard time spicing
Speaker 3: this one up.
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Speaker 2: What would it do for Rogers' legacy if he won
Speaker 2: in New York? Can he compare it to anything if
Speaker 2: he won big in New York? Well, because obviously his
Speaker 2: legacy cement is for him individually.
Speaker 3: But I think, I think, honestly, I think Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: to be a top three, top five of all time.
Speaker 3: He's got to win more. I think he's got to win,
Speaker 3: whether it be a Super Bowl or take the Jets
Speaker 3: deep into the playoffs or something like that. For a
Speaker 3: very simple reason. If you look at the people who
Speaker 3: were considered, and look, I don't it's such a ridiculously
Speaker 3: subjective list. I know that on my list, Tom Brady
Speaker 3: would be on top, Otto Graham would be number two,
Speaker 3: and Joe Montana probably would be number three. And everyone
Speaker 3: would say, what is Otto Graham doing there? And I say, well,
Speaker 3: he played professional football for ten seasons. In ten seasons,
Speaker 3: he played in the championship game, and in seven seasons
Speaker 3: he won his team won the championship, his Cleveland Browns team.
Speaker 3: And people might say, well, geez, he only played ten years. Well,
Speaker 3: the world was different and football was a lot different
Speaker 3: seventy years ago, and what football was back in the
Speaker 3: day was it was a game that you didn't play.
Speaker 3: Most players didn't play for longer than seven, eight, nine,
Speaker 3: ten years. And now obviously it's different. But I think
Speaker 3: if you are looking logically and you want to consider
Speaker 3: all of history, history's written by the winners. And I
Speaker 3: think Aaron Rodgers needs to win more to prove that
Speaker 3: he should elbow his way into the top three or
Speaker 3: five of all time.
Speaker 1: Would it be Mark Messier and steroids.
Speaker 3: Well or or or it would be a little bit mindful.
Speaker 3: It would be a little bit mindful of Tom Brady
Speaker 3: going to the Bucks because everybody thought the Bucks were
Speaker 3: lost sheeps in the pasture of life in the NFL,
Speaker 3: and they obviously win a Super Bowl. It's a little
Speaker 3: bit different than the Rams because the Rams were coming
Speaker 3: when Matthew Stafford went there, you know, they had already
Speaker 3: been to one Super Bowl would go so they were
Speaker 3: not at the bottom of the pile. But I think
Speaker 3: that's a great comparison about Mark Messier, because Messier was
Speaker 3: on the greatest hockey team of his era. The Edmonton
Speaker 3: Oilers came to the Rangers, and I don't maybe it's
Speaker 3: too strong to say he willed them. They they had
Speaker 3: some great talent, obviously, but I do think I think
Speaker 3: that's a very good comparison because as with Messier, it'll
Speaker 3: be much more. It'll be it'll be I shouldn't say
Speaker 3: much more. It'll be a lot about Aaron Rodgers, the
Speaker 3: person and the leader that if the Jets make it
Speaker 3: to the Promised Land, that's one of the reasons why
Speaker 3: they'll make it there. I'll just say one other thing.
Speaker 3: When I talked to Robert Salah here, he made this
Speaker 3: point because I'm I say to I forget how I
Speaker 3: worded it, but I said, because I was watching practice.
Speaker 3: I bet eighteen twenty times in an hour and forty minutes.
Speaker 3: He went up and he was talking to guys. He
Speaker 3: was talking to receivers about a route he'd talked to.
Speaker 3: He talked to Jeff all Break at one point, I
Speaker 3: talked to a couple of defensive guys and Zach Wilson
Speaker 3: he's talking to almost constantly. But and Robert Salas said,
Speaker 3: I've never been around a player who was as much
Speaker 3: of a coach as Aaron Rodgers is in this training camp,
Speaker 3: and I think eric for this team. It's important for
Speaker 3: a very simple reason that, if you think about it,
Speaker 3: this offense is was invented by Matt Lafler, Nathaniel Hackett,
Speaker 3: and Aaron Rodgers four years ago in Green Bay. And
Speaker 3: so Matt, Matt Lafleur is not here, but Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: and Nathaniel Hackett are, And the offense maybe isn't a
Speaker 3: car and not exactly a carbon copy, but it's darn
Speaker 3: close to that offense they ran in Green Bay that
Speaker 3: was so successful. So I think that it is justice
Speaker 3: and it is correct that Aaron Rodgers will essentially be
Speaker 3: as close to an assistant coach. Yeah, a player coach
Speaker 3: as you can have.
Speaker 1: The storylines after Rogers where you start.
Speaker 2: Obviously, that's the lead to any paragraph when you're talking
Speaker 2: about the Jets but offensive rookie of the Year and
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll give you, I'll give you my, I'll give
Speaker 3: you my I'll give you my three other storylines. Okay,
Speaker 3: is the offensive line going to be good enough? Is
Speaker 3: it gonna hold up? Will mackay Beckton ever? And I'm doubtful,
Speaker 3: I'm a little dubious. Will he ever become a real
Speaker 3: prominent fixture here? As I say I have my doubts,
Speaker 3: that is really important because you know that. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: by the end of this year, I will bet that
Speaker 3: a lot of Jets fans will say crap. Like I'm
Speaker 3: a big Boston Red Sox fan, so I watch a
Speaker 3: lot of the Red Sox games, and I say, man,
Speaker 3: that Justin Turner comes over from the Dodgers. He's a
Speaker 3: lot better than I thought he was. Okay, he's doing
Speaker 3: more than I thought he would.
Speaker 1: Do.
Speaker 3: You know who you're gonna be saying that about Alan Lazard?
Speaker 3: Alan Lazard, I could see him. I'm just gonna invent
Speaker 3: this seventy catches nine touchdowns fourteen yards a catch. Alan
Speaker 3: Lazard is gonna be a huge if he stays healthy,
Speaker 3: He's gonna be a huge factor in this offense, I
Speaker 3: think because just remember one thing about Aaron Rodgers. Okay,
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, and you saw it last year. One of
Speaker 3: the reasons the Packers struggled so much is that he
Speaker 3: was trying to get used to Aaron dobbson Christian Watson.
Speaker 3: He certainly could have done more by being more involved
Speaker 3: in the off season program, which he wasn't. So that's
Speaker 3: his fault, but it's also his right. He doesn't have
Speaker 3: to come in the off season. However, you see how
Speaker 3: important chemistry is, and that's why I think I have
Speaker 3: no idea how healthy you know, Randall Cobb is going
Speaker 3: to be this year. You know, health is a big
Speaker 3: concern about a lot of guys on that offense. But
Speaker 3: that's why I think Allen Lazard is going to be
Speaker 3: a big factor. But the one other thing I would
Speaker 3: say is, you know, last year, relatively speaking, okay, the Jets,
Speaker 3: especially defense, we're able to keep their guys on the field,
Speaker 3: and you cannot take that for granted because that is
Speaker 3: not something you can predict, and so I just say, look,
Speaker 3: you know Sauce Read, you know the guys in that
Speaker 3: second that is a playoff secondary right there. And I
Speaker 3: think they've got enough of a pass rush. And you know,
Speaker 3: on offense, you get Elijah vera Tucker back it was
Speaker 3: a huge loss. You get Breeze Hall back maybe by
Speaker 3: the opener, but at least by some time early in
Speaker 3: the season. Who knows what happens with Dalvin Cook. Probably
Speaker 3: there will be some verdict by the time people are
Speaker 3: listening to this. But I do think that especially on defense,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what they would sign right now to
Speaker 3: have the same health this year that they had last year,
Speaker 3: because that is a top five defense if they all
Speaker 3: stay on the field.
Speaker 2: This has been fun and it always is. Let's go
Speaker 2: out here on this. What do you make of the division?
Speaker 2: The Bills three time defending.
Speaker 3: It's effing brutal, That's what I make of it. I mean,
Speaker 3: I said to Rogers, I mean, you got you got
Speaker 3: Belichick twice, you got a Super Bowl contender, strong contender
Speaker 3: in the Buffalo Bills. You had a rising star Miami team.
Speaker 3: That's six of your seventeen games, right, We just had a.
Speaker 2: Big time coordinator on defensive side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: And and although he might be hurt. And you know,
Speaker 3: the other thing I would say is you gotta play
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott and the Cowboys early. You gotta play Mahomes.
Speaker 3: You got this is this is a tough, tough division.
Speaker 3: And one of the things I said to Rogers was,
Speaker 3: you got those six games and then you step out
Speaker 3: of your division and all you have to do in
Speaker 3: January is beat Burrow and Mahomes. I mean, it's brutal.
Speaker 3: Nothing he said. Obviously, he said the AFC is ridiculous,
Speaker 3: but lazard. When I talk to him about that, I
Speaker 3: thought he was very interesting. He basically said, look, you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm paraphrasing Afriget his exact words, but basically, we're
Speaker 3: learning to crawl here. You know, it's silly to start
Speaker 3: worrying about this these goliaths on the outside. We have
Speaker 3: to get as good as we can be, which is
Speaker 3: the right answer, by the way, you know, we got
Speaker 3: to get as good as we can be. And I
Speaker 3: think right now, you know, Jets will take baby steps.
Speaker 3: It's this occurred to me thinking about, you know, where
Speaker 3: the Jets are right now. But Eric, the new York
Speaker 3: Jets will be in training camp for I think twelve
Speaker 3: days in the month of July. It's something like that.
Speaker 3: Maybe not practicing every day, but this is a long
Speaker 3: preseason for the Jets, very long, and I think Robert
Speaker 3: Salah has to be careful. You want to get your
Speaker 3: team ready, okay, but you don't want to have these
Speaker 3: this is this is you know, soft tissue time of
Speaker 3: year right now with guys trying to make your team
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. So you know, you gotta be
Speaker 3: a little conservative in what you're asking, especially with what
Speaker 3: is going to be absolutely torrid heat and humidity coming
Speaker 3: up here.
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see more green and white in
Speaker 2: Brooklyn over the next couple of weeks. H Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame coming up. Party shots. Yeah, Cleco.
Speaker 3: You know, I think I always thought that Joe Clecko's
Speaker 3: case was a little bit difficult.
Speaker 1: We've talked over the years about this.
Speaker 3: Over the years, and it was always a little bit
Speaker 3: difficult because what you want out of a guy on
Speaker 3: the defensive line is to be a dominating player for
Speaker 3: twelve or thirteen years, ten twelve years at least, and
Speaker 3: Joe Clecko was hurt by the fact that he was
Speaker 3: not Joe Cleco. He was Joe team guy. Need me
Speaker 3: to play inside, I'll play the nose. Need me to
Speaker 3: play tackle in a four man front, I'll play tackle.
Speaker 3: You need me to rush from the outside, which is
Speaker 3: not really his position. Although I think of all the
Speaker 3: things that Cleco did in his career, I think he
Speaker 3: was best at being a four to three end. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think he would have. You know, it's a weird
Speaker 3: thing to say, but man, I'll tell you what I
Speaker 3: could have in his prime. You know, Leonard Marshall on
Speaker 3: one side, Joe Cleco on the other side. Holy crap,
Speaker 3: with Lawrence Taylor behind Marshall and Banks behind Joe Cleco. Lord,
Speaker 3: that's ridiculous. But I'm happy for Cleco because I absolutely
Speaker 3: think he deserves it. I was always in his corner,
Speaker 3: and obviously I was. I voted for him every time
Speaker 3: it came up revs. Look, I'm very pro reevus. I
Speaker 3: think he absolutely deserves to be in there. I think
Speaker 3: that the cornerback position has changed so mightily over the
Speaker 3: years that he by doing the whole Revis Island thing.
Speaker 3: In my time covering the league, I think the two
Speaker 3: best cover corners were Dion Sanders and Darrell Revis, and
Speaker 3: to me today, in this game, you could probably come
Speaker 3: up with ten highlights a year where Revis gets beat,
Speaker 3: and so I think that to some degree was held
Speaker 3: against him because he probably got beat more than Dion did.
Speaker 3: But they threw a huge amount of times more than
Speaker 3: teams threw in Dion's era, and so look, I think
Speaker 3: both guys deserve it. It'll be a great time for
Speaker 3: the Jets out in Canton. And I always like seeing
Speaker 3: franchises that didn't maybe win the biggest game or biggest games.
Speaker 3: I like when they get guys in the Hall of
Speaker 3: Fame because I think one of the things over the
Speaker 3: years that I wish, and I'm a longtime Hall of
Speaker 3: Fame voter, I wish the Tommy Nobis is of the world.
Speaker 3: Uh and and a lot of guys who were on
Speaker 3: teams that didn't win Super Bowls, they just get lost
Speaker 3: in the in the sauce, and so I'm happy for
Speaker 3: the Jets is very well deserved.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you just said lost the sauce. You're bringing
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Speaker 2: lockdown corner and sauce gardener Peter. Last time we talked
Speaker 2: was in Arizona, and who would have thunk it that
Speaker 2: Florana Park mcghersey. It wasn't times hotter it was.
Speaker 1: It was great seeing you.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Thanks, Eric appreciate it.