1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: We were presented by Win Beat Bettings, a team sport 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: bet together it went bet Eric Aallan with Peter King. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: We are here inside the studio at one Jets Draw. Peter, 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: how many years is this for you on the training 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 2: camp circuit? 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: Well, this is my fortieth year, Eric, covering the NFL 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: fortieth season. I should say my first year was nineteen 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: eighty four, covering the Cincinnati Bengals, and it was slightly 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: different in those days because virtually every day of a 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 3: six week training camp in Wilmington, Ohio, which as I'm 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: sure you well know, is the corn capital of Ohio. 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: And to say it was warm and toasty there virtually 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: every day, I'm just glad I didn't have to play 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: in it. Because the majority of days the Bengals had 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: two a days. They would practice from nine to eleven 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: in the morning three to five in the afternoon. And 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: I don't know why this sticks out to me, but 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: the majority of practices were in pads, and I just 20 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: thought to myself, this is really a hard job. And 21 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 3: I remember one day because for those who are big 22 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: fans of this game, the one thing in my career 23 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: that I truly regret is how many times I thought 24 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: to myself, I'm standing with Paul Brown, who is the 25 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: owner of the Bengals. I'm standing with Paul Brown watching 26 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: football practice, and I'm not writing anything down. I'm just 27 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: talking to him. I bet forty times that summer I 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: watched practice, the majority of practice with Paul Brown. And 29 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: I just consider myself highly, highly, highly fortunate to have 30 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: begun my career in an environment like that. And look 31 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: the other one thing I'll tell you about training camps 32 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: and how they've changed. My first year. It was either 33 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: eighty four or eighty five that I went to the 34 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers camp in Latrobe. The PR guy there, Joe Gordon, 35 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: I said, I want to talk to a couple of players. 36 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 3: So he gave me some options. I said, I'd love 37 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: to talk to Mike Webster, and so he said, Okay, 38 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: he's in room two fifty four over in the dorm. 39 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 3: Just go over there and knock on the door. He'll 40 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: answer and he'll let you in. 41 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Wow. 42 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: I mean, how access Eric, It's times have changed just 43 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: slightly in covering the National Football League. 44 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: So fourtieth summer here, the Jets are your first stop 45 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: you have the veteran I what do you look for when. 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: You come to a camp like the Jets. 47 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: I took the lazy way out. I watched Aaron Rodgers 48 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: for an hour and forty minutes because I just wanted 49 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: to see what he did, who he talked to, what 50 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: he does. And there's a couple of things that occurred 51 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: to me. One is I think the Jets are really 52 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: lucky to have the defense that they do, because it 53 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: reminds me of the the cliche the iron sharpens iron cliche, 54 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: because Rogers is so precise with his throws that look 55 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: in practice he is going This is not the scattershooting 56 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: Zach Wilson where he's not the most accurate guy, at 57 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: least at this point in his career. It is one 58 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: of the most accurate throwers of the football in the 59 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: one hundred and five year history, one hundred and four 60 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: year history of the NFL. And so Sauce Gardner is 61 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: going to have a good experience here. The whole secondary's 62 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: gonna have a good experience. It's because during the week 63 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: they are going to be able to prepare for Josh 64 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: Allen into a tongue Aloe and Mac Jones and Dak 65 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: Prescott and whoever else is on their schedule because they 66 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: will not face a more accurate passer. 67 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: And it just. 68 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: Occurred to me watching this it was hard for Rogers 69 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: to complete a past in this practice. I saw, very hard. 70 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: And the reason is that is a damn good secondary 71 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: and in my opinion, it's going to do major favors 72 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 3: for both of them. 73 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: Now, the practice session that you watched, Garrett Wilson accided 74 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: early he was getting his ankle looked at. Yeah, Robert 75 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: Sala thinks everything's fine there. Corey Davis also out with 76 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: a viral illness. What is the restruction of Rogers' contract? 77 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: What kind of message does that send internally and maybe 78 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 2: throughout the league as well? 79 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: You know, I asked him about it, and he basically said, 80 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: because look, a lot of players restructure their contracts, but 81 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: they don't say to the team, hey, here's thirty five 82 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: million dollars back or whatever the number is. I've seen 83 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: the reports and I don't know. I asked him about it, 84 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: and he didn't wasn't specific and exactly what he had 85 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 3: given up. But clearly, if he had done nothing with 86 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: this contract, he would have made a lot more money 87 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: over the life of this contract, but he also would 88 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: have severely hamstrung the Jets. And my feeling about it 89 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: is it reminds me a lot of what Tom Brady 90 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 3: used to do when I forget what year it was, 91 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: but after one of his Super Bowl years, his compensation 92 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 3: that year he was going to be the twenty third 93 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: highest paid quarterback, and you just say, well, you know, 94 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: and Brady's whole attitude was, look, if they're spending to 95 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: the cap, if they're taking this money and going to 96 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: spend to the cap, I'm fine with it. And plus, 97 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: we all know quarterbacks in the NFL, especially ones who 98 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: win Super Bowls, can walk out of their homes and 99 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: sign an hour's worth of autographs and make a million 100 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: dollars or whatever the silly sum is. So it's almost like, 101 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 3: I'm sure, and Aaron Rodgers said, this is what makes 102 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: me happy. I did this because I wanted to do it. 103 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: Nobody forced me to do anything. I wanted to do this, 104 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: and so I think it should probably endear him even more. 105 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: I would think that the fan base is swooning over 106 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: him as it is, but that should probably endear him 107 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: even more to the fan base. 108 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: It's the honeymoon stage right. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. 109 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: But he said it repeatedly that he's having a blast here. 110 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just talked to him within the last hour. 111 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: Do you sense that. 112 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 3: I think he because I talked to him. We talked 113 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: openly about how you said this offseason, I'm ninety percent retiring, 114 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 3: and so I've thought all off season, what a risky 115 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: deal for the Jets. Joe Douglas man if Aaron Rodgers 116 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: if the Jets finished nine to eight, and Aaron Rodgers says, 117 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: I'm not having fun, I'm retiring. I mean, it's not 118 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: going to be a good look for Joe Douglas or 119 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: for the Jets. But it sounds very much like Rogers 120 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: is going to play at least two more years. So 121 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: it sounds like now. But Eric, a lot of things 122 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: can be he said in a honeymoon period, A lot 123 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: of things can be said in July. You look back 124 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: in February and you look back and you say, boy, 125 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: was that sounds naive now? So you don't know. But yeah, 126 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: I'm like everybody else, I would anticipate Rogers. I'm not 127 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: saying he was delirious. He's a pensive human being. But 128 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: he definitely is is really really enjoying it. And you know, Eric, 129 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: one of the things he talked a lot about, he said, listen, 130 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: I've never played for a defensive head coach before, and 131 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: I really like this Robert saw and he said, I 132 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: like him because we talk. I might come up with 133 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: an idea and he might take the idea and do it. 134 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: And sometimes he might say it's a good idea, We're 135 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: not going to do that. And Rogers had a big 136 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: smile on his face, and he goes, I kind of 137 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: love that. I just want somebody to listen to me 138 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: and then let's talk about it and then do what 139 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 3: you want to do. I just want to be heard, 140 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: you know. And I got the distinct impression that Robert 141 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: Salah and Joe Douglas, he feels are excellent sounding boards 142 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: for his idea. He also talked very, very admiringly of 143 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 3: Joe Douglas. And look, it's clear, all right, the Green 144 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: Bay Packers do things one way, okay. Brian Gudakutz, the 145 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: general manager, I think, by his peers, by people who 146 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: work there, by almost everybody in the building, is a 147 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 3: highly regarded guy. And I think Aaron Rodgers chafed at 148 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: times with the fact that they didn't have his open 149 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: line of communications. That's been very clear, widely reported. But 150 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 3: I also think that the Packers have a way of 151 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: doing things, and it's very difficult, isn't it to sit 152 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: back here and say, well, the Packers' way is my 153 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: way or the highway. So that's not the right way 154 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 3: to do it. Well, for the last thirty thirty five years, 155 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: how's that way worked pretty damn good. And so I 156 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: just think, you know, as Rogers told me, he goes, 157 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: you know, sometimes it's just time. And I think and 158 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 3: he said that pretty much since he signed here, and 159 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: I think he felt like it was just time. And 160 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: I think it was smart. He knew it, The Packers 161 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: knew it, because, make no mistake about it, you know, 162 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: he felt it. The Packers wanted Jordan Love to play 163 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: after a lot of their communication issues with Rogers early 164 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 3: in this offseason. Right or wrong, fair, unfair, That's the 165 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: way they went. And it's eerily, incredibly bizarrely familiar in 166 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 3: all ways to fifteen years ago when Brett Favre came here, 167 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: and it's it's the exact same story all over again. 168 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 3: A guy sits on the pines for three years after 169 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: being drafted low in the first round. Aaron Rodgers did 170 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: it two thousand and five, six and seven. Now Jordan 171 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 3: Love has done it twenty twenty one, twenty two. Now 172 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: it's Jordan Love's time. And you know, I think that 173 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: there is kind of a lot of poetic justice in 174 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: what happened. And I believe that Aaron Rodgers will give 175 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: the Jets more time than Brett Farv did. 176 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: Far of and O wait, Jets started eight and three, 177 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: then he got. 178 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: You remember the eleventh game, the eleventh game against Tennessee. 179 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: The Titans, undefeated, were ten and zero in Nashville. The 180 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: Jets beat them nine hundred to nothing. And that was 181 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: And how crazy is this? Who's on the offensive staff 182 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: of the New York Jets then Brian Dabole. And it's 183 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: just there's so many great storylines about Farv, Rogers, Jets, Jets, Packers, Packers. 184 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: It's just it's a cool, cool story. 185 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 2: Do you think the Jets enter this season with a 186 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: target on their back? Because listen, everybody, to a man, 187 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: they know the steps they took last year. 188 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: It's also a talented roster. 189 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: Now you add a former four time NFL MVP who's 190 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: ready to roll and had not it been for the 191 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: injuries and then stability at quarterback last year. 192 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: The Jets are a playoff team. 193 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: But you get a sense, at least from here that 194 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: a lot of people are saying, okay, Jets, go out 195 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: and prove it. Where I don't know if anybody has 196 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: said anything Outland is coming from Florida Park. 197 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: No, I'll tell you this, and it's look, Eric, you 198 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: know everyone in this building. They're going to be amiable, 199 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: They're going to be pleasant to everybody from NFL films. 200 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: Here to do hard knocks. 201 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: The Jets are dreading going through this training camp with 202 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: hard knocks. You know, cameras on them, and I don't 203 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: blame him. This is not the time for them to 204 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 3: be shouting from the rooftops. Hey look at us, and 205 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: they don't want to. Robert Sala definitely doesn't want to. 206 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: Rogers definitely doesn't want to. But you know, and look, 207 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: I'm not down on hard knocks, but I do think 208 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: had I been the NFL in look, they're gonna get 209 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: some nice stuff. They always do. They're gonna get some 210 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: nice stuff, But I would want hard knocks in my place. 211 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: If I had something that I wanted to show, I 212 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: wanted to prove whatever, like to me this year, like 213 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,359 Speaker 3: wasn't it? It was Detroit last year and Detroit was fantastic. 214 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: Those were good shows because that was a team that said, 215 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: ah the spotlight, let's have it. And let me just 216 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: say this, I think a fantastic team this year would 217 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: have been Washington, you know, with you know, the honeymoon 218 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: of the new owner and the ding Dong Witch, the 219 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: Witch is Dead stuff with Snyder and some real hope 220 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: for the first time in forever. And again look, as 221 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: I said, they will have some moments with Aaron Rodgers. 222 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: And of course everybody in the NFL said the only 223 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: team we wanted was the Jets, and I believe that, 224 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: but I think they're gonna have a hard time spicing 225 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: this one up. 226 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: Shout out to the Jets in house production team because 227 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: one Jets Drive actually debuts August seventh, Monday night before 228 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, and they do a fantastic job. And 229 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: now we continue to do a fantastic job. 230 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 4: Jets fans. 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The best part you get an entry for 241 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 4: every one hundred dollars you wager. 242 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: What would it do for Rogers' legacy if he won 243 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: in New York? Can he compare it to anything if 244 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: he won big in New York? Well, because obviously his 245 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: legacy cement is for him individually. 246 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: But I think, I think, honestly, I think Aaron Rodgers 247 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 3: to be a top three, top five of all time. 248 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: He's got to win more. I think he's got to win, 249 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: whether it be a Super Bowl or take the Jets 250 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: deep into the playoffs or something like that. For a 251 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: very simple reason. If you look at the people who 252 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: were considered, and look, I don't it's such a ridiculously 253 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 3: subjective list. I know that on my list, Tom Brady 254 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: would be on top, Otto Graham would be number two, 255 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 3: and Joe Montana probably would be number three. And everyone 256 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: would say, what is Otto Graham doing there? And I say, well, 257 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: he played professional football for ten seasons. In ten seasons, 258 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: he played in the championship game, and in seven seasons 259 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: he won his team won the championship, his Cleveland Browns team. 260 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: And people might say, well, geez, he only played ten years. Well, 261 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: the world was different and football was a lot different 262 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: seventy years ago, and what football was back in the 263 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 3: day was it was a game that you didn't play. 264 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 3: Most players didn't play for longer than seven, eight, nine, 265 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: ten years. And now obviously it's different. But I think 266 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: if you are looking logically and you want to consider 267 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: all of history, history's written by the winners. And I 268 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: think Aaron Rodgers needs to win more to prove that 269 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 3: he should elbow his way into the top three or 270 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: five of all time. 271 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: Would it be Mark Messier and steroids. 272 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: Well or or or it would be a little bit mindful. 273 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: It would be a little bit mindful of Tom Brady 274 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: going to the Bucks because everybody thought the Bucks were 275 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 3: lost sheeps in the pasture of life in the NFL, 276 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: and they obviously win a Super Bowl. It's a little 277 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: bit different than the Rams because the Rams were coming 278 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 3: when Matthew Stafford went there, you know, they had already 279 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 3: been to one Super Bowl would go so they were 280 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: not at the bottom of the pile. But I think 281 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: that's a great comparison about Mark Messier, because Messier was 282 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: on the greatest hockey team of his era. The Edmonton 283 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: Oilers came to the Rangers, and I don't maybe it's 284 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: too strong to say he willed them. They they had 285 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 3: some great talent, obviously, but I do think I think 286 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: that's a very good comparison because as with Messier, it'll 287 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: be much more. It'll be it'll be I shouldn't say 288 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 3: much more. It'll be a lot about Aaron Rodgers, the 289 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 3: person and the leader that if the Jets make it 290 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 3: to the Promised Land, that's one of the reasons why 291 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 3: they'll make it there. I'll just say one other thing. 292 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: When I talked to Robert Salah here, he made this 293 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 3: point because I'm I say to I forget how I 294 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: worded it, but I said, because I was watching practice. 295 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 3: I bet eighteen twenty times in an hour and forty minutes. 296 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: He went up and he was talking to guys. He 297 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: was talking to receivers about a route he'd talked to. 298 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 3: He talked to Jeff all Break at one point, I 299 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 3: talked to a couple of defensive guys and Zach Wilson 300 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: he's talking to almost constantly. But and Robert Salas said, 301 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 3: I've never been around a player who was as much 302 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: of a coach as Aaron Rodgers is in this training camp, 303 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: and I think eric for this team. It's important for 304 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: a very simple reason that, if you think about it, 305 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: this offense is was invented by Matt Lafler, Nathaniel Hackett, 306 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: and Aaron Rodgers four years ago in Green Bay. And 307 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 3: so Matt, Matt Lafleur is not here, but Aaron Rodgers 308 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 3: and Nathaniel Hackett are, And the offense maybe isn't a 309 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: car and not exactly a carbon copy, but it's darn 310 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 3: close to that offense they ran in Green Bay that 311 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: was so successful. So I think that it is justice 312 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 3: and it is correct that Aaron Rodgers will essentially be 313 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: as close to an assistant coach. Yeah, a player coach 314 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 3: as you can have. 315 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: The storylines after Rogers where you start. 316 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: Obviously, that's the lead to any paragraph when you're talking 317 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: about the Jets but offensive rookie of the Year and 318 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson. 319 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll give you, I'll give you my, I'll give 320 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: you my I'll give you my three other storylines. Okay, 321 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: is the offensive line going to be good enough? Is 322 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 3: it gonna hold up? Will mackay Beckton ever? And I'm doubtful, 323 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm a little dubious. Will he ever become a real 324 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: prominent fixture here? As I say I have my doubts, 325 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: that is really important because you know that. I mean, look, 326 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: by the end of this year, I will bet that 327 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: a lot of Jets fans will say crap. Like I'm 328 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 3: a big Boston Red Sox fan, so I watch a 329 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: lot of the Red Sox games, and I say, man, 330 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 3: that Justin Turner comes over from the Dodgers. He's a 331 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: lot better than I thought he was. Okay, he's doing 332 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: more than I thought he would. 333 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: Do. 334 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: You know who you're gonna be saying that about Alan Lazard? 335 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: Alan Lazard, I could see him. I'm just gonna invent 336 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: this seventy catches nine touchdowns fourteen yards a catch. Alan 337 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: Lazard is gonna be a huge if he stays healthy, 338 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 3: He's gonna be a huge factor in this offense, I 339 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 3: think because just remember one thing about Aaron Rodgers. Okay, 340 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, and you saw it last year. One of 341 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: the reasons the Packers struggled so much is that he 342 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: was trying to get used to Aaron dobbson Christian Watson. 343 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 3: He certainly could have done more by being more involved 344 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 3: in the off season program, which he wasn't. So that's 345 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 3: his fault, but it's also his right. He doesn't have 346 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: to come in the off season. However, you see how 347 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: important chemistry is, and that's why I think I have 348 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: no idea how healthy you know, Randall Cobb is going 349 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 3: to be this year. You know, health is a big 350 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: concern about a lot of guys on that offense. But 351 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 3: that's why I think Allen Lazard is going to be 352 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 3: a big factor. But the one other thing I would 353 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: say is, you know, last year, relatively speaking, okay, the Jets, 354 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 3: especially defense, we're able to keep their guys on the field, 355 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 3: and you cannot take that for granted because that is 356 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: not something you can predict, and so I just say, look, 357 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 3: you know Sauce Read, you know the guys in that 358 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: second that is a playoff secondary right there. And I 359 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: think they've got enough of a pass rush. And you know, 360 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: on offense, you get Elijah vera Tucker back it was 361 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 3: a huge loss. You get Breeze Hall back maybe by 362 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: the opener, but at least by some time early in 363 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: the season. Who knows what happens with Dalvin Cook. Probably 364 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 3: there will be some verdict by the time people are 365 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: listening to this. But I do think that especially on defense, 366 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what they would sign right now to 367 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: have the same health this year that they had last year, 368 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 3: because that is a top five defense if they all 369 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 3: stay on the field. 370 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: This has been fun and it always is. Let's go 371 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: out here on this. What do you make of the division? 372 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: The Bills three time defending. 373 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: It's effing brutal, That's what I make of it. I mean, 374 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 3: I said to Rogers, I mean, you got you got 375 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: Belichick twice, you got a Super Bowl contender, strong contender 376 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: in the Buffalo Bills. You had a rising star Miami team. 377 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: That's six of your seventeen games, right, We just had a. 378 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: Big time coordinator on defensive side. 379 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 380 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 3: And and although he might be hurt. And you know, 381 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 3: the other thing I would say is you gotta play 382 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 3: Dak Prescott and the Cowboys early. You gotta play Mahomes. 383 00:25:54,440 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 3: You got this is this is a tough, tough division. 384 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 3: And one of the things I said to Rogers was, 385 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: you got those six games and then you step out 386 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 3: of your division and all you have to do in 387 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 3: January is beat Burrow and Mahomes. I mean, it's brutal. 388 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: Nothing he said. Obviously, he said the AFC is ridiculous, 389 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: but lazard. When I talk to him about that, I 390 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 3: thought he was very interesting. He basically said, look, you know, 391 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 3: and I'm paraphrasing Afriget his exact words, but basically, we're 392 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: learning to crawl here. You know, it's silly to start 393 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: worrying about this these goliaths on the outside. We have 394 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: to get as good as we can be, which is 395 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 3: the right answer, by the way, you know, we got 396 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 3: to get as good as we can be. And I 397 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: think right now, you know, Jets will take baby steps. 398 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 3: It's this occurred to me thinking about, you know, where 399 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: the Jets are right now. But Eric, the new York 400 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: Jets will be in training camp for I think twelve 401 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: days in the month of July. It's something like that. 402 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: Maybe not practicing every day, but this is a long 403 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 3: preseason for the Jets, very long, and I think Robert 404 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 3: Salah has to be careful. You want to get your 405 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: team ready, okay, but you don't want to have these 406 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 3: this is this is you know, soft tissue time of 407 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 3: year right now with guys trying to make your team 408 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 3: and all that stuff. So you know, you gotta be 409 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 3: a little conservative in what you're asking, especially with what 410 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: is going to be absolutely torrid heat and humidity coming 411 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 3: up here. 412 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see more green and white in 413 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: Brooklyn over the next couple of weeks. H Hall of 414 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: Fame coming up. Party shots. Yeah, Cleco. 415 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: You know, I think I always thought that Joe Clecko's 416 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: case was a little bit difficult. 417 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: We've talked over the years about this. 418 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,239 Speaker 3: Over the years, and it was always a little bit 419 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: difficult because what you want out of a guy on 420 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 3: the defensive line is to be a dominating player for 421 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: twelve or thirteen years, ten twelve years at least, and 422 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: Joe Clecko was hurt by the fact that he was 423 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: not Joe Cleco. He was Joe team guy. Need me 424 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: to play inside, I'll play the nose. Need me to 425 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: play tackle in a four man front, I'll play tackle. 426 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: You need me to rush from the outside, which is 427 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: not really his position. Although I think of all the 428 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 3: things that Cleco did in his career, I think he 429 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 3: was best at being a four to three end. I mean, 430 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: I think he would have. You know, it's a weird 431 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: thing to say, but man, I'll tell you what I 432 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: could have in his prime. You know, Leonard Marshall on 433 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: one side, Joe Cleco on the other side. Holy crap, 434 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: with Lawrence Taylor behind Marshall and Banks behind Joe Cleco. Lord, 435 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: that's ridiculous. But I'm happy for Cleco because I absolutely 436 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: think he deserves it. I was always in his corner, 437 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: and obviously I was. I voted for him every time 438 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 3: it came up revs. Look, I'm very pro reevus. I 439 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: think he absolutely deserves to be in there. I think 440 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: that the cornerback position has changed so mightily over the 441 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: years that he by doing the whole Revis Island thing. 442 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: In my time covering the league, I think the two 443 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: best cover corners were Dion Sanders and Darrell Revis, and 444 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: to me today, in this game, you could probably come 445 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: up with ten highlights a year where Revis gets beat, 446 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: and so I think that to some degree was held 447 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 3: against him because he probably got beat more than Dion did. 448 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: But they threw a huge amount of times more than 449 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: teams threw in Dion's era, and so look, I think 450 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: both guys deserve it. It'll be a great time for 451 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 3: the Jets out in Canton. And I always like seeing 452 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: franchises that didn't maybe win the biggest game or biggest games. 453 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 3: I like when they get guys in the Hall of 454 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 3: Fame because I think one of the things over the 455 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 3: years that I wish, and I'm a longtime Hall of 456 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 3: Fame voter, I wish the Tommy Nobis is of the world. 457 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: Uh and and a lot of guys who were on 458 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 3: teams that didn't win Super Bowls, they just get lost 459 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 3: in the in the sauce, and so I'm happy for 460 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: the Jets is very well deserved. 461 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: I'm glad you just said lost the sauce. You're bringing 462 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: a full circle because Jets at a lockdown corner, de 463 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: lockdown corner and sauce gardener Peter. Last time we talked 464 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: was in Arizona, and who would have thunk it that 465 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 2: Florana Park mcghersey. It wasn't times hotter it was. 466 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: It was great seeing you. 467 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: Thanks, Thanks, Eric appreciate it.