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Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.080 Josh Clark. It's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Cherry's in the house. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:38.600 We're back to basics. Yeah, we're doing a social sciences episode. Man, 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.080 I mean we're all right, man, we get to tear 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:46.800 it apart. You you believe in body language? Sure, watch this. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.760 You're winking and shouldering and nodding your head and you're 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:54.240 loosening up and you're doing some weird biting thing. What 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:59.280 did I say? You said, I'm feeling silly. It's exactly 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.720 what it is. How about that? Yeah? It said I've 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:05.160 had a diet mountain dew and I'm pepped up. Okay, 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:10.000 that's what I was saying. Now I'm crashing and he's down. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.640 Are you doing good? Yeah? I'm hanging on by a thread. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.959 Are you sure we can make it through this? Man? 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.560 You you can do this in your sleep? Okay, don't 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.000 go to sleep. Okay, it would be so boring. You 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.600 could theoretically do this in your sleep. Yeah, okay, I 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:29.480 got you. Yeah, um, so body language it is a thing. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.720 When I was researching, I was like, this is junk science. 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:35.520 There's no way this is real. And I could not 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.919 find anything that just said like, yes, body language is 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:43.160 obviously junk science. Apparently it's very well established and well reputed. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.680 I mean I understand, like, like, yes, there is such 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:50.880 thing as body language included in the evolution. It's basically 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:56.960 evidence of evolution from an animalian ancestor. But the idea 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:01.480 that like you can read somebody, especially like that facial 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.359 coding system, it just struck me as really like junkie. Yeah, 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.480 well we did Um I could have sworn we had 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:09.440 done this one when I did. Yeah, we did that, 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.880 and I think two thousand nine, and I don't remember 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.240 how I weighed in on it back then. So I'm 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.679 just gonna start a new and maybe it may be 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.960 a different take. I have no idea. People grow and 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.000 change their opinions evolve, you know. Well here's what I think. 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.280 Of course, body language is real and it can tell 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.280 you a lot. I can tell you a lot, but 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.520 it can also miss you can be misdirected very easily. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.400 And uh, I mean we'll get to it. But I 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:39.320 found some stuff from a former FBI guy. Even uh, 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:43.120 it doesn't say it's junk science, but he's like, you 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.920 can fool somebody to if you're a sociopath. You know 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:51.160 this about body language of expressions. Apparently it's a myth that, 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.600 uh that's how I get by. Apparently it's a myth 0:03:54.680 --> 0:04:00.000 that uh ikon or not having eye contact means deception. Um, 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.200 while it can. His whole point is they've done studies 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:07.800 over the years and habitual liars, h and anti socials 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:12.960 in psychopaths have the most eye contact probably because there's 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.000 that myth exactly. So it's like a self fulfilling myth. Yeah, 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.640 Ted Bundy was probably like, I gotta make great contact 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:22.640 with everyone into otherwise the jig will be up and 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.080 I won't get to kill people any longer, my favorite thing. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.159 And then so, yeah, there's a lot of myth. There's that. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.680 There's that one myth also where like you look up 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:32.880 into the right or up into the left of your 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.719 lying or recalling Yeah, I can't remember, we don't. We 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.560 debunked that and something here they're a while back. Yeah, 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.120 I think I think body language is fun to talk 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:47.480 about and study, but when you're convicting someone and as 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:51.520 a jury based on micro expression. Yes, there's where the 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.840 junk science comes in from me, it gets a little dangerous, 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:55.800 and not just with body language. Who we need to 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.920 do a whole episode on forensics in general and just 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.640 how junkie the science that most of it is based on. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.040 It's basically the only thing that's that's less standing is 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.799 d n A and even that can be wildly misinterpreted. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.040 And we're using this to like execute people, and there's 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:15.920 a big problem with it. So I think we've arrived 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.240 at my problem with it. It's junk science when you 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:23.200 apply it for like law enforcement. Yeah as fact, Yeah, agreed, Okay, 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.240 So can we be done. This is the other thing 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:32.799 that got me to um Albert uh Mehrabian. I totally 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.719 nailed that guy's name. I bet the h is silent 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:43.200 Arabian Arabian. I bet it's just Arabian, not Arabian anyway. 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:50.080 Uh Dr Arabian back in said that in the first 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.919 four minutes of meeting someone, our facial expressions account for 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.760 the impression we make. Seven percent of that impression comes 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.839 from our actual words, while the remainder of the information 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.440 from a tone of voice. Yeah, he does think is 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.640 what made me think like, no, this is all Yes, Yeah, 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.559 because it sounds who can who can say that? You can't? 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.200 Maybe one you could get away with that crap not 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:17.480 in two tho you lived in the past. Uh. Yeah, 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.440 Morabian was he's He was probably one of the first 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.279 researchers to study this in the nineteen forties out of U. C. 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.119 L A and UM. I agree, you can't just break 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:32.120 down percentages. I think what he really means to say, 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.800 if I may speak for him, is facial expressions in 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.160 tone of voice account for a lot of a lot 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:40.800 of what you're getting out of a person. And I 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.040 don't think anyone would disagree with that. And the words 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.560 account maybe for even less than those two things combined. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.880 I think people would agree with that too. I think 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.680 it's when you quantify it seven. He just said that 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:55.200 just because it sounds authoritative. Yeah, because he like he 0:06:55.240 --> 0:07:00.039 fed it into the percentage three maker three thousand and 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:04.279 and it spit it out. Uh. But that is not 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:10.080 to miss the point that communicating UM inadvertently is something 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.559 that we all do through body lane. Sure. Yeah, there's 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.800 a there's a great quote I ran across on a 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.840 psychology today post um it was. The quote comes from 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:23.120 a sixteenth century Scottish mathematician named John Napier, and he said, 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.560 if language was given to men to conceal there, oh 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.960 you found it too. Hunh. It's about as good a 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.120 quote of body language as you can come up with. 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.640 You do it, chuck now you you already do better. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:40.880 Sixteenth century Scottish do Sean Connery reading this, man, if 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:44.280 language was given to men and shield their faults, then 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:48.640 gestures pish was to disclose them. That's perfect, it's not bad. 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.320 That was dead on John Napier. It's not as good 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:57.400 as my crystal fault. So Napier makes a pretty good point, like, yeah, 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.480 you can. Language has all sorts of str sure and 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:04.800 can be mastered body languages. Much of it is is 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.960 just inadvertent and we don't even realize necessarily when you're 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.240 picking up on it. You just get this weird gut 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:14.240 feeling that uh no, I don't trust this car salesman, 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.800 or I want to give this car salesman all my 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.800 money depending on the body language. Yeah, and um, it's 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.160 pretty clear that this started a long time ago, like 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:27.280 it predates language because who wrote this By the way, 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:31.720 this is a Patrick Kaiger joint. Oh kaigeru Kaiger says 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:36.240 um rightfully that it took took's age. You didn't have 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:40.360 a lot of time to suss things out, like up 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.960 close and personal. You know, once you got close enough 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.040 within striking distance, you can be stricken. Yeah, you might 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.040 already have that club upside your head or that rock 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.960 in your face. Yeah, so you needed to judge someone's 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:57.240 body language as they approach you to survive. Yes, you 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.960 know so, so body language makes sense. And you would 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:05.480 also presuppose that since we are descended from animals and 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:11.400 animals clearly do engage in body language. Um, that body 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.320 language would be older than language, although this this article 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.760 says that language didn't exist until about a hundred thousand 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.400 years ago, so it's under dispute. Possibly as much as 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.840 a million years ago, people were using some sort of 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:29.079 verbal communication. Yeah, and Neanderthals apparently also head language. Probably interesting, 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.240 It is pretty interesting. I'd like to do one on 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:36.200 um animal communication, have we not? I think we touched 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:37.600 on it here and there, But I know there's a 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:41.440 lot of things like cats purring and tails wagging on 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:45.480 dogs that are misinterpreted. Um. Or like a wolf growling. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:49.199 I think that means compet me. You know, it's often 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.680 misinterpreted as a warning, Come take this stink out of 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.560 my mouth if you dare. Uh should we take a break? 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.160 All right, let's take a quick one, and we're gonna 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.480 get back and explain a little bit more about what 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:23.000 one researcher calls thin slices of experience. So Josha said 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.320 something about thin slices of experience, And I'm not talking 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:30.000 about the uh the roast beef line at the buffet, 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:35.040 which is great, thin slices. The carving station? Yeah? Yeah, 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.120 Have you ever worked at carving station? Have I ever 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:40.280 worked one? Yeah? I've hung around one long enough that 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.800 I basically should have been paid, But I was just eating. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.160 What do you wait for the next uh roast to 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.720 come out so you can get the incut? I know, 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.000 I've never been into and cuts, whether it be a 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.440 loaf of bread or cut of meat. Oh really like 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:57.200 a prime rib in cut? Yeah? No, daddy, that's good. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.360 Isn't it all salt? Maybe that's why I love it? 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.920 You like the salt? Yeah? Yeah. To me, it's like 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:08.600 the closer you get to the middle, the juicy here it, yeah, 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.480 and a little a little rarer in the middle obviously. Yeah. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.520 So I think that's my problem with the end of anything. 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.800 It's undercooked. You know about White people don't like to 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.319 eat the crust because it's called crust, And that might 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.360 be part of it. If like a hundred years ago 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.200 they named it like the butterfly Yeah, the butterfly slice, 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.040 people would have been like fighting for it, like the 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.200 butterfly slice is delicious. Yeah. Have you ever heard George 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:39.360 Carlin's little take on that end slice that everybody always 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.320 goes past. They're like, I'm not gonna eat that. That's 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.080 the poison piece of bread. I'll leave that for my 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.280 family to eat. Wait, I guess the NPS didn't called 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.120 the crust, so is it. The crust is what's around. 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.439 But it's all crust. That's the problem with you know 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:57.280 what I mean, it's nothing but crust. Yeah, not butt crust, 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:01.079 it's nothing but crust. I think the other weird man, 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:06.400 this is a jerus, This is a strange tangent um. 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.960 I think the other problem with the bread end pieces 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.439 is that eating one end piece with a regular slice 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:16.600 is a little weird, but getting that other slice off 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:21.400 the tail end is not very feasible or efficient to 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:25.160 make two crust pieces. No, but that frequently is the 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.480 last sandwich that's made out of the loaf because that 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.120 one end piece has been hanging around. And then I 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:34.320 finally mate, yeah, and then you stick some turkey in 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:38.200 it and weep quietly while you eat your terrible sandwich. Man, 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.560 thin slices. Where were we experience? Yes, this is a 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:51.080 professor of psychology name uh Nalini Embody and Batty from 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.760 Toughs University. Shout out to my buddy Robert Shahade from 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.880 high school. He works at tough Speaking of you know, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.680 there's a kid with like a really huge hit single 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.440 out right now from your high school. Really, I think 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.080 your high school is shown in the music video. It's 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:14.200 um watching Me whip watch Men. It's reed in weird silento. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.720 So I'm no longer the most famous person from high school. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.880 You were until about it six months ago, and I 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.599 will be again in another six months. Maybe it's a 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:26.079 pretty pretty catchy single. It's a hot, hot, hot track. Now. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.760 We actually we had several professional athletes that are much 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:34.000 more popular than me. We had a professional punter actually 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.240 maybe before Yeah, we haven't. We've had a few. There's 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:41.600 a baseball player, uh in, a puncher. Travis Tritt went 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.280 to my high school. Shut up really, see that's a 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:50.079 big nimee, Travis. Yeah, I don't have any like superstars. 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.920 Luke Brian went to UMIs High School. Man, you guys, 0:13:54.320 --> 0:14:01.200 where'd you go Beverly Hills to uh? Oh boy, here 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:05.040 we go again. Thin slices from tough University. Well, let's 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.120 let's talk about the thin slices thing, man, um the 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:14.439 you said earlier that it would be very advantageous evolutionarily speaking, 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:19.240 to be able to read maybe the rough intentions of 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:23.000 some other hunter gatherer a hundred thousand years ago, read 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:25.480 the room like from a distance before they could hit 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:29.280 you with a rock, right, if that was their intent. Well, 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.520 just as much you want to be able to like 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.360 walk through the world and be threatened by stuff and 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.440 to make snap judgments about it based on things like 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.240 body language. Same thing, and this this is what the 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.560 thin slices has to do with. Yeah, they're just those 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:47.560 first few seconds when you meet somebody. And I mean 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.080 some people may just call it a gut instinct about somebody, 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.400 but what you're probably doing is reading body language. That's 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.320 what that gut instinct is. Yes, and those things are 0:14:56.320 --> 0:15:00.160 processed and generated. And I think the Olympic system where 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.160 emotions and feelings are processed in the brain. Yeah, Olympics system. 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:07.440 From what I understand, that's right, which um, she thinks 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.520 and I agree with her. That might explain why we 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:13.240 have such uh, such like a powerful gut instinct about 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.040 some people when we first meet them, because it's tied 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.480 to emotion. Yeah. And the whole point is is, uh, 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.960 this guy will cut your throat if you turn your 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.800 back on him. Right, Probably not, but in our modern 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:31.240 context it's you know, this guy will inflate the price 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.400 of the car you want to buy if you if 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:37.680 you're not careful. It's it's this totally different things, but 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.640 it's based on the same principle. It's all based on 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.960 body language, and we're able to make snap judgments that 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.280 we can't even stop and really analyze what it was 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.280 that person did or what it was about him. We 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.800 just know that we trust him or don't, or we 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.960 feel comfortable aroun him or not, we fear them or 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.400 we don't, based on this body language. And what this 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.040 professor is saying is we have a very ancient part 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:02.240 of our brain that that is responsible for processing this stuff. Yeah, 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.640 and I think, um, just for me personally, I think 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.720 if you try to focus on that too much, then 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:13.080 you're not doing yourselves any favors. Like let it be anate. Well, yeah, 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.640 there's some people who coach this kind of stuff that 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:22.080 apparently say no do all sorts of crazy weird stuff, 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.480 which we'll talk about later. Yeah, I agreed. But what 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.840 you're looking at, um are There's three different categories I 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:33.400 guess um innate learned and some that are both hybrid. Uh, 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.800 expressions and postures and things that you do and like, 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.760 for instance, you're born with. Like you can blush, that's 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.240 an innate thing. You blush. You don't mean to blush, 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.960 especially when somebody's staring at your cheek. Yeah. I don't 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:49.320 think you can make yourself blush. Watch this, So just 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:55.479 think about hot things in your mouth, tighten up your core. Uh. 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:59.120 So that's the innate side. Learned would be things like um, 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:04.320 hanging someone the bird, Yeah, out the car window, because 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.399 everyone knows what that means. You're depending on where you 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:11.040 are and you've learned it. Yeah, that's not something you're 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.360 born doing like, yeah, I got your typer right here 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.800 to a photo of a baby accidentally shooting a bird 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:19.960 is one of the great things can we agree? But 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.720 it's accidental, there's no meaning attached to it. That's what 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.919 you think. Um. And then there's hybrid hybrid gestures that 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.640 are like, um, shrugging is a really good example. It's 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:34.800 something you know you naturally shrug right, right, but it's 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.640 it's not contextual until you learn what to attach attach 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.640 it to, Like I don't know, you're not born being 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:45.000 like right or you or you you cry, but you've 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:49.679 also learned that crying can uh get you something maybe right, 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:54.080 or to get out of a traffic ticket or something sympathy. 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:58.000 It can chase your parents off to the bar. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.200 one of those. Um. And then Chuck I said something 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:05.159 about how you know, flipping somebody bird? Everybody knows what 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.879 that means. It does depend on where you are, because 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:11.520 there is especially with learned. So I think innate body 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:16.040 language is virtually universal stuff that you couldn't possibly control. Like, uh, 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.399 I can't remember why I read it. But if you 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.560 take a bite of something putrid and you make that 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:25.040 horrible like disgusted face, like oh my god, I'm about 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:29.280 to vomit everywhere everybody's watching you doesn't have to go 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.640 give me that and then take a bite and taste 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:34.119 it themselves. They can look at your face and be like, 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.600 I'm not going anywhere near that piece of feces that 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.200 guy just took a bite of. Or that's how we 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.640 all learned not to eat feces. Yeah, but there's also 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.640 the human thing where you're like, oh God, smell this, right. 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.119 That's the person who wants everyone else to suffer like 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.280 they just did. But everybody else has just been communicated 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.520 to by that innate face, that nasty face that you 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.840 would make when you eat something disgusting. And again that 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:01.920 evolutionarily that protects us than that respect and make stuff. 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:07.200 So that's universal, but it's the learned stuff that's culturally dependent. Yeah, Like, 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:09.600 for instance, they have a few examples in the article, 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:13.119 um uh, smiling in the US might mean in the 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.159 United States might mean you're happy, apparently, in Asia it 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.760 might say I agree with you. It could also cover 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:23.680 up embarrassment if they're embarrassing for you or something that 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.160 you might smile. Um, yeah, is that what everyone's always 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.960 smiling at me? They're embarrassed for me. Uh what else? 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:34.600 Ie contact varies from place to place. Uh. Here in 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:38.240 the United States, someone might think you're listening and uh 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.359 like very key to into what you're saying. Are you 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.680 Ted Bundy or your Ted Bundy? Or if you're in Africa, 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.960 maybe it might be disrespectful to look someone right in 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:48.840 the eye. Yeah, And I looked around and find out 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:50.919 what part of Africa because I hate to leave it 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.919 like that, you know, on this massive continent, do not 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.000 look people in the eyes? Yeah, I couldn't find any, 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.200 And everyone said some parts of Africa everywhere I look. 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.840 No one specifically said. In the Congo, it's um considered 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.520 uh impolite or aggressive or something like that to to 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:12.520 maintain eye contact. It's definitely in in um Japan. If 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.840 you make eye contact with somebody, you're saying, I'm your superior. 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.200 So if you are socially or say business wise and 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:23.080 inferior to somebody, you're you're averting your gaze and it's respectful. 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.960 In the US, you shake hands and you make eye 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:29.680 contact and you just you know, climbed a wrong right there, 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:32.560 unless you're prince and then he's like nobody can hide 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.240 eye contact with me? Is that for real? Because he 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.840 likes to do things that just mess with people for fun. 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.480 I think I think of the stories you've heard about 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:44.199 Prince are not true. What about him playing basketball? He's 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.800 like a really good basketball player, though, says Charlie Murphy. 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:51.080 I believe that everything. Charlie Murphy says, I found some 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:55.880 more culturally bound stuff. Thumbs up in New Zealand does 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.800 not mean like right on? Does that mean like a 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.400 thumb up your butt? Pretty much? Really? Yeah, you don't 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:05.119 want to do that. Um. Similarly, when you make like 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:08.040 the peace sign, as long as you're not showing the 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.800 people in the back of your hand. Yeah. And in 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.960 in Australia, and I believe New Zealand too, like that 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:18.360 movie Bad Taste, the cover of It that I think 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.640 Peter Jackson's first or second movie, the cover of It's 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:23.880 like an alien going like that, and I'm like, what's 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.760 the what's two? Why was he showing me the number two? 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.239 Then as I grew up, I learned to understand what 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.720 that was. What else you got? Uh? And some cultures, 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.280 nodding means no, like nodding yes actually means no, like 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:42.440 in Grease and Bulgaria getting in trouble. Yeah, and in Mexico, Mexico. 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:46.520 This is what I found. Mexico, Haiti, and Spain. It 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:50.520 is perfectly normal to go to a waiter, which I do. 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:52.720 I don't do it to waiters, but I'm a kind 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:55.080 of person. That's how you call someone over and get 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:59.120 their attention. You may also make kissing noises at them 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:03.920 to a waiter. Yeah. Really Yeah, So I go to Mexico, 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:07.560 I need my check and I go. I guess according 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:11.640 to this thing that I read, which seemed pretty legitimate. Interesting, Yeah, 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:15.040 what was the website? I don't remember. I'll definitely send 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.439 it to you to post. But it's it's um, it 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.600 was like it was research material to be used by 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.320 business people around the world. If it was a hoax, 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:25.320 then they did a pretty good job. Fool in me 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:28.000 got you. All right, let's take another break and we'll 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:31.000 come back and we'll talk about deciphering some of these 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:52.960 nonverbal cues right after this. Alright, So language is a 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:56.680 very precise thing, or it should be or can be. Um, 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.760 body language would you would think is just all over 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:04.520 the at, but they're actually uh, some categories that some 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:08.359 brilliant social scientists have come up with yeah, and I 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.360 think they make sense. Yeah. Basically they've broken it down 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:16.520 into five categories or five types of nonverbal communication and 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:21.320 body language. Um, there's emblems. It's like hanging a bird, yeah, 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:23.920 or shaking your fist or something like that. Something that 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:27.000 that um is very symbolic of something else that you 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.240 can also put into words, right, who shakes a fist 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:34.040 at someone? Some people do, Okay, it's a good it's 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:37.840 a it's a good yeah. Yeah, because it's saying like 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:42.000 that meddle finger and then you're that's that's very aggressive. 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:45.440 That's very aggressive. I'm just kidding. And never flicked someone 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:50.080 a bird? Oh oh yeah, like in a car or something. 0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:54.240 No way, Yeah, apparently it's really dangerous. Yeah, and that's yeah, 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:56.119 that's why I do it. I think it's just I mean, 0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:58.879 I don't get mad you didn't say things, but I 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:00.960 would never. I don't know who that person is. Yeah, 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.440 it could be a psycho. Yeah. Then you're getting chased 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:06.320 or you're getting shot at by someone because you you 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:08.840