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Speaker 1: What's up people, it's your boy, Camjay back with another

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Speaker 1: episode of Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. Now as

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Speaker 1: we gear it for another exciting season, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: reflect on some of the incredible guests I had the

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Speaker 1: pleasure of sitting down with last season. But hey, don't worry, though,

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Speaker 1: I got you new episodes coming your way real soon. Relax,

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Speaker 1: I got you. But in the meantime, in between time,

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Speaker 1: let's rewind and play back some of my favorite interviews

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Speaker 1: from season one. This week, I'll bring you the most

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Speaker 1: interesting man in NFL. That's right, A man who really

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Speaker 1: doesn't need introduction, but I'm given one anyways, A.

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Speaker 2: Man whose passport requires no photograph.

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Speaker 1: Sharks have a week dedicated to him, and he can

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Speaker 1: speak French in Russian, Ladies and gentlemen, I present to

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Speaker 1: you my former teammate, Jimmy Graham aka Hemy Graham. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I've got here on Off the Edge with my with

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Speaker 1: my own podcast, but I feel like it's not my

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Speaker 1: my one of my guys I looked up to when

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Speaker 1: I got to the league. You know, probably literally and

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Speaker 1: you know, figuratively speaking saying in at six nine or

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to you want to call yourself. But

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Speaker 1: you know, a teammate when I first got to the

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Speaker 1: Saints and I watched him leave, go to Seattle, become

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Speaker 1: the highest paid tight end, and then he went you know,

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Speaker 2: We'll get to it.

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Speaker 1: On such a phenomenal career, thirteen years in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Could we could fight for fourteen? But it is what

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Speaker 1: it is. You know, five time Pro bowler, two time

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Speaker 1: All Pro, a man, a man who sued the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You know, a man he knows no bounds. Jimmy Griham,

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Speaker 1: my dog, my tight end. You know, my brother, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you hopping on the pod.

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Speaker 3: You know, I know we've been talking about it for

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Speaker 2: You know, man, just think about twenty eleven.

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Speaker 1: If I would have had a podcast in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: I would have lost my job.

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Speaker 2: What like, would have got kicked out?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think half of us would

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Speaker 3: it's such a different era. You know, this this whole

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like you you look over and Michael

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Speaker 1: like guys would have to retire first, you know, Marcus Spears,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you'll be doing the same thing whenever you retired. Man,

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Speaker 1: For those that don't know, Jimmy went to the U

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Speaker 1: Let me know, so I can buy some land out

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Speaker 3: Definitely, I'll definitely let you know.

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Speaker 2: Perfect.

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Speaker 1: You've been such a great teammate this whole especially like

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Speaker 2: You've been my guy.

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Speaker 1: But like this year, I mean, I'm not gonna lie you.

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Speaker 3: You know, Man, with me, it's all about winning, man,

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Speaker 3: That's all I care about. And you know, kind of

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Speaker 3: And the only reason that I decided not to retire

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Speaker 1: Always ready. It turned up this year you snagged one

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Speaker 2: And this is why you say that used to call

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Speaker 1: Next next years you scored touchdown and was like what

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Speaker 2: Him, I was him, I've been him. I am And

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Speaker 1: So that tweet all love whatever whatever you say, bro.

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Speaker 1: And I looked at I was like, oh, he just

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I mean nobody said me up, you know.

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Speaker 1: This is like, hey, I took you took a year off,

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Speaker 2: So you're biking down and where was it? Miami?

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Speaker 3: And so at first I thought, I like, at first,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and the bike wasn't cheap, so bike with

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Speaker 3: shout out. I appreciate it, but you know, I ended

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, they're pretty. And you got to think about

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Speaker 1: Are no jokes. I was I told you about that.

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Speaker 2: I was like no, I was like, Bro, I.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no, it's the biking is the hardest,

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Speaker 1: Like I see the caps going, I'm like, bro, I'm

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you take you take off this.

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Speaker 2: You know, the car takes you out.

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Speaker 1: You take out the car, You hit the ground, bro,

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Speaker 2: Off, and that makes you be like, all right, I'm back.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 3: You cat.

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Speaker 1: You came into what was that off season whatever that was.

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Speaker 1: You were like, you came to the building. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Let me know you coming back. I was like, I

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Speaker 2: was like, you want some jar like you want some

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Speaker 2: Jarry Jamonsko. I was like, what you want? You're like, nah, Bro,

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Speaker 2: I'm running this. He was like, I think I got

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Speaker 1: He's like, now, I'm just gonna go run some Browns

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Speaker 1: next day, bro, I was like, and Jimmy.

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Speaker 3: Dog like you No, I'm out here. I'm out here

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Speaker 3: just just with you. It's funny to the you know Matthews, man,

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Speaker 3: we we have battled so many times on separate teams.

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton puts some like dB on me every down

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Speaker 3: and practice one on one and was like the honey

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Speaker 3: Badgers gonna be all over you, honey budget and and

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Speaker 3: ended up I ended up doing pretty well at that game,

434
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 3: but we we ended up meeting up a couple of

435
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,960
Speaker 3: times in Seattle, man and just have battles when he

436
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,639
Speaker 3: was in Arizona. Man, I have so much respect for

437
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 3: him and just how he handles his business.

438
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 2: And because he comes up to here him Yeah.

439
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,919
Speaker 3: Dude, is it's like unbelievable how productive he's been and

440
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 3: how special he is, you know, I mean, especially at

441
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,120
Speaker 3: his size or hype. You know, it's just like unreal.

442
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 3: His just his like his his intelligence of the game,

443
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 3: his like nose for the ball just beyond special.

444
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 1: Crazy crazy, Like I always just has a knack to

445
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,880
Speaker 1: be where it's at. I've never had a I've never

446
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 1: got a chance to ask you out of you know,

447
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 1: you've you've seen what Jay Cutler, Aaron Rodgers, of course,

448
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 1: Drew Brees.

449
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 2: You know, Uh you have Russ. Do you have a

450
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 2: favorite quarterback?

451
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 3: Man? I? You know, I have my favorites in different ways,

452
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like like like I break

453
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 3: things down on it. Just just how they are as

454
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 3: a player, you know, and and and all three of

455
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 3: them are completely different by human beings basically just how

456
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 3: they operate even on the field. Obviously, me and Drew

457
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 3: the connection, I don't think there was ever anything better,

458
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 3: you know, we uh, you know, I think now when

459
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 3: you see guys like Travis, you know, and Sam Fran

460
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: you know, it's like that was also based on a

461
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 3: lot that me and Drew were able to do. Obviously

462
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 3: alongside of Gronk and Brady. You know, when me and

463
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 3: Drew together for those five years, the numbers we put

464
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 3: up and where we're able to do, it's really just

465
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 3: the connection was so special. Man, he knew exactly what

466
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 3: I was doing and I knew what he was doing.

467
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 3: It was almost like we could read other thoughts. And

468
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 3: then obviously went out of Seattle, they were more of

469
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 3: a run team, so you know, for me, they're like, hey,

470
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 3: I know, you're used to getting a hundred balls the season,

471
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 3: but if you get sixty here, you're gonna break every record.

472
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I still have other records, but

473
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 3: it's it still was only like sixty. And they were right,

474
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 3: it was, you know, I mean it was different because

475
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 3: we just ran the ball so much and a lot

476
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 3: of play action, a lot of scrambling. But with Russ,

477
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 3: I mean just kind of how we up. Like this dude,

478
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 3: he was like never down, like ever about anything, you know.

479
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,959
Speaker 3: So we'd be down by three touchdownds, he said, all right,

480
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 3: one more we're gonna like he's always saying, and so

481
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 3: like it makes you believe it, you know. And and

482
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 3: there was times when we came back and when you know,

483
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: other times we would have just packed it up and

484
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 3: went to the next game. But man, he was he

485
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 3: was always a positive about everything. And then and then

486
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: Aaron when it comes, I don't think I've ever seen

487
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: anybody throw the ball in Aaron Rogers. No. You know,

488
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: my time there wasn't the greatest. Obviously, timing sucked, you know.

489
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 3: My first year, Mike McCarthy gets fired. That was an

490
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 3: absolute mess. And then the second year, you know, mattla

491
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 3: Flour comes in with a new offense, doesn't really give

492
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: Aaron any power to do what he wants. So we

493
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 3: made an MC championship, but our offense wasn't great because

494
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: basically he wouldn't let Aaron, you know, actually change the

495
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 3: right play and do these certain things. But when it

496
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 3: comes to tossing the rock, man, I don't I don't

497
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 3: think live I've ever seen anybody throw the ball like

498
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 3: he does ever. Just it's just everything that he doesn't do.

499
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's like our work. Like the way

500
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 3: that comes out of his wrists and the way he

501
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 3: flips it. It's just stupid. Like we're doing like drills,

502
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 3: like like resilent drills. No, no, no, like two minutes and

503
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 3: we have like five seconds left. He moving on like

504
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: the logo, and this dude would just scramble around a

505
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 3: little bit. He'd be looking over here and he would

506
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 3: throw the ball to the right and now looking at

507
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: the receiver one on one on the right side to

508
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 3: do that like it's just and the ball was just

509
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 3: slinging right to him. It's just crazy. I mean his arm,

510
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: his arm, yeah, yeah, his arm by part the best service.

511
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you know they don't want to just take

512
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: credit for that. You know, he'll probably call.

513
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: He'll probably claim is his junior collegeut out out in California,

514
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: But bears guy, you know, University of California.

515
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: But you too, who else right now? Is is you know,

516
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: at the top of the game, like you guys are,

517
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 3: somebody would.

518
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: Say, like, you know, there's an NC Championship game coming up,

519
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: and you know, I think Detroit Lions are doing really

520
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: really well, coached really.

521
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: Well by just a myriad of great coaches.

522
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: But you would say the face of that would be

523
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: a Colbert, you know, good old Jared Goff, the last Yeah. Yeah,

524
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 1: the last first rounder to be drafted of the University

525
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: of California bird number one.

526
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, I'm man, I'm so happy for him. Man,

527
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: I'm so happy for him. Man, him and and the

528
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: head coach that whole city deserves it.

529
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: Man, did you play with Dan? You didn't play?

530
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 3: No? Come on, bro, come on, I'm saying no, but no. No.

531
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 3: Dan was almost my coach because, uh, the year right

532
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 3: before I got traded, they had fired my tight end

533
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: coach and they brought him in, so I was supposed

534
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 3: to be talking to him, and then I got traded.

535
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, ob Seattle, you.

536
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: Sue the NFL. Who do you?

537
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: Who? Do you know?

538
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: Sues the NFL and then sort of wins.

539
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: Like didn't went to you like you wanted to be

540
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: paid ribrace money, but you know, suit him because you

541
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: were out in the slot like seventy percent of the

542
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: time versus what your tight end situation was. But sort

543
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: of wins and then you know, becomes the highest paid

544
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: tight end resets the whole market the first tight end.

545
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: I re said it twice. But what was interesting, What

546
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: was interesting was, I mean, none of that should ever

547
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 3: really happened, you know what I'm saying, Like they never

548
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 3: even offered me a contract to start with. You know,

549
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: they said that. My agent told me, hey, they're going.

550
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 2: To start it.

551
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 3: No now now now you're welcome. You're welcome. Now. They

552
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 3: pay guys who deserve it early right back then they

553
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 3: were playing harble so you know, like guys, you know,

554
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: guys would basically be franchise school of pre agency or

555
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: they would play horrible, or you have to sign something

556
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: that wasn't really where your market was. But you know,

557
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 3: basically they said, well, the franchise SAG is so cheap

558
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: that we're not going to offer you like a contract.

559
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 3: We're going to franchise you twice that you'd be thirty,

560
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 3: we'll get rid of you. Right when they said that,

561
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, like there's no way that's happening,

562
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 3: especially well, especially the way I played. The way I played,

563
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 3: I was bound to get hurt, like it wasn't it

564
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: wasn't a chance of if it was win and how

565
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 3: bad because you know that was the old school over

566
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 3: the middle. All we ran was uh basically, I'll go

567
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: I'll go special, and I was getting tattooed across the middle.

568
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: So you know, I mean I had to find guarantee money.

569
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: So I had to and you got it though, you

570
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: being you being over Seattle for for extended period of

571
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: time and then now Pete Carroll, you know, retiring, did

572
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 1: that have any impact on you?

573
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: Like what was what was Pete Carroll's legacy?

574
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 3: Like, man, I had a special relationship with Pete. Obviously

575
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: they were a big part of that trade. Uh Pe

576
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: was phenomenal with me as far as like letting me

577
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: fly into work. You know, he wasn't tripping about the

578
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: planes and the cars and all the extracurricular stuff.

579
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: When you say, when you say flying the work, what

580
00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: you're talking about.

581
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 3: Uh So my first week on a job, John Northstrom,

582
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 3: who used to own the team, he sold it to

583
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: Paul Allen, but he was still very close because you know,

584
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: his friend owned it. So and so he used to

585
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: come into work all the time. So he so he

586
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: comes in. He's like, hey, my name is John Northstone.

587
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: I us still on the team. I heard you're a

588
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: pilot and I was like yeah. He's like, have you

589
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 3: do you have your set your seaplane license? I said no,

590
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: but I've been I've been thinking about getting that. Jack Brown.

591
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, I flew in. Uh, if you want

592
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: to go out and see my seatplane. I was like yeah.

593
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: So we walk out to the dock and literally right

594
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 3: on the bottom of Lake Washington. He had this thing

595
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: called a beaver On Anthips, which is like this old

596
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: school warplane that Canada was built in Canada. A bunch

597
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 3: of went to Vietnam and uh. So we got this

598
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: thing and we went flying over the city man and uh.

599
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: A week later I went and got my seaplane license,

600
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: and then a couple of months later I bought one

601
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: and restored it. So I bought one that fought in

602
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: Vietnam and so I had to fully rebuild. So the

603
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: next year, when the plane was ready, like three times

604
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: a week, I used to fly into work. So I

605
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: looked at the top of Lake Washington. It's like a

606
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: forty five minute drive. It's kind of far, but it

607
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: was a five minute flight. So I used to just

608
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 3: take off sometime I would like live stream it and

609
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 3: then I would just land maybe five minutes and I

610
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 3: get out, tied up and go to the go to practice. Yeah.

611
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: It was nice.

612
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: It was and it like connected to the facility and

613
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: connected like the back of the facility or like yeah,

614
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like like like you fly from the crib,

615
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: So you drive to your plane from your house, which

616
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: is a couple minutes, and then you fly down.

617
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I literally fly down the lake literally five

618
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: minutes I land. It's like you have to talk to

619
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: one of the towers at the written at the well.

620
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: There's a little one down there. There's a little one

621
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: that they make, I think one of the one of

622
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: the boatings they make down there, and you just basically

623
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: you get on the radio. Then I just literally pull

624
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: up to the dock. I jump out tied to the

625
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: little floating duck and like I had my little like

626
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: parking space number like Jimmy Graham's yeah, and then you

627
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: like go through and that connects right to the players

628
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: parking mom and so he just walked up. So people

629
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: would like like coaches would watch me fly into the

630
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: d Yeah. It was kind of weird, Jimmy, you don't see.

631
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: But it was also cool because that's that's when I

632
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: started doing the wounded warrior stuff. So we used to

633
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: bring in, uh sometimes on either Monday or Tuesday, we'd

634
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: bring in a wounded warrior and we give him like

635
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: a full tour the facility. We gear him down with

636
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: e K we'd give him a jersey, and then I

637
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: would take them on the dock and I would fly

638
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: them and I would actually teach them how to fly.

639
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: So we'd be over like Washington, I'd be there wooded

640
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 3: warrior flying and then we go back, I drop them

641
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: off and go home. I mean it was it was

642
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: a pretty cool experience for sure.

643
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: So so he didn't come down on you like the

644
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys came down on our dog Brandon Cooks, because.

645
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: To you know what, Dak and Mike, Yeah, yeah, it

646
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: was like you can't do that.

647
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: We didn't even hear, but like you you doing that

648
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: was like hey man, you guys, you know you.

649
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: Guys flew before I got you. Didn't take you on

650
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: a plane.

651
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the Saints when I was young tried some

652
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: of that That's that's why I was pretty quiet, Like

653
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: I didn't have Instagram, so like way later than most people.

654
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: And one of it because I was, you know, I'm

655
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: kind of private, but I was definitely being private about

656
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: the flying thing because I knew it was going to

657
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: be an issue. So basically I had like four licenses,

658
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: four or five licenses by the time they found out,

659
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: and I already owned two planes. So because they were like, hey,

660
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: we want like, you can't be in anything that isn't

661
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: a jet that doesn't have two engines or a co pilot.

662
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, already got an airbatic plane, bro,

663
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: so that's not happening. And that's it. That was really

664
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: the end of it, you know what I mean. I

665
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: told them, like an airbac clane, I'll wear a parachute.

666
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: But that's about it. I mean. And then now you

667
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: know I'm a commercial multi single. You know, I've got

668
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: everything now to where I'm beyond proficient and basically everything

669
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 3: that fly or anything. And but I've taken a lot

670
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: of teammates.

671
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean, the coolest flight moment you say, I'm gonna say,

672
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Blue Angels. When I saw what I

673
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, flew with the Blue Angels, like yeah, door.

674
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: Out of here, I would say last year in June.

675
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: So I'm the honorary commander of the Homestead Air Force

676
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: Base down here in Miami, which is also the home

677
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: to our world renown MAKOS, which is our F sixteen

678
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: fighter squadron. They've been deployed in various things over many years.

679
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: Right now, some of them are working as presidential detail

680
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: up in Washington.

681
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: Classify get my canceled.

682
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, it's you could look up. You

683
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: can look all that up online. But we so so

684
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: in June they ended up having a D Model sixteen.

685
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: So I got to fly with one of my good

686
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: friends from the macOS and it was incredible. You know,

687
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: the day or the week before, I had to go

688
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: through all the like survival stuff and like in case

689
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: you get in the water, and all the cockpit stuff

690
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: and obviously it had a full live ejection seat and

691
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: all this, you know, the oxygen system. But you know,

692
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: to be able to take that down south, we're right

693
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: over the keys Key westward kind of out out over

694
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 3: the water. We had between the ground and sixty thousand

695
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: feet and man sixty sixty thousand. Yeah, and to be

696
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: able oh yeah, crazy work, oh yeah, it's in. And

697
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: to be able to go that fast, you know, do

698
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: the various things that we did and the flybys that

699
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: we did was just magical. Man. It was everything that

700
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: I was.

701
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: In perspective, like a commercial flight.

702
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: You get on you know, Delta Southwest United flying, you're

703
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: going with ten thousand, ten thousand, be near?

704
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: Are you in that eye?

705
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're between the thirties, so you're thirty thirty five thousand.

706
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 3: Those are mostly where those fly. All the bigger jets,

707
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: like all the private jets still fly like higher forties

708
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: and then in the fifties.

709
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: But and you're on the sixties.

710
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we're well they had a block out that

711
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: amount of space for all the maneuvers that were doing,

712
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: and so we would have enough to be able to

713
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: climb and do some of these awesome, interesting military maneuvers

714
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: that that's really cool. That's crazy, really cool.

715
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: All right, So now I almost say football is out

716
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: the way, but it's sort of it's.

717
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: Only a side, right, it's only a side.

718
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: You're not saying full retirement, but you possibly could come

719
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: back anyway. So if this is retirement, during the season

720
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: you talked about rowing across the world or whatever the

721
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: hell that was. Are you still talking about trying to

722
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: sail across the world or continent to continent?

723
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: No, is that a thing?

724
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: Yes, So there's been an update, the most recent update,

725
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: and we're all in on this thing now. So apparently

726
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: someone had read that I was trying to sail around

727
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: the world, and so they ended up reaching out and

728
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 3: asked me if I would think about trying to break

729
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 3: a world record. But knownst to me earlier last year

730
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: one of my very close friends, he's been a CEO

731
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: for twenty three years. He just retired. He's working private

732
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: equity now. And I told him at a pub at

733
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: his graduation because he also got his NBA from Cambridge.

734
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: I told him, hey, because he'd been asked me to

735
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: do this for eight years, and I said, okay, we're

736
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: getting a little banged up. And I said, He's like,

737
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: you're the only person that will do this with me,

738
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 3: So will you do what? I think it'd be incredible

739
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: experience for us, both very challenging and great opportunity. So

740
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: the person that reached out to us was on the

741
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: national the US National Open Ocean Rowing team, and so

742
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: now we are we have a meeting in two weeks altogether,

743
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: and all the this is all the beginning stages of

744
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: what we're going to do an attempt, but we're going

745
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 3: to attempt in twenty twenty five to set a world

746
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 3: record by rowing across an ocean with a four person team.

747
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: And it's a four person mixed team.

748
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: So the next team being men and women.

749
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: Yes, it was going to be that, but now there's

750
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 3: that we're actually taking one of the shorter routes to

751
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: start with, and then the next we're probably gonna race.

752
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: So the first route that we just decided basically a

753
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: week ago, and our first training camp is gonna be

754
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: in two weeks because one it's gonna be hilarious because

755
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: my boy rode in college. The other guy who was

756
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 3: actually married to to to the girl we're doing it with, uh,

757
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: well she's got a gold medal for the open ocean

758
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: rowing and the guy is actually two lanes rowing coach.

759
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 3: So it's so yeah, yes, So I'm gonna be back

760
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 3: in New Orleans and we're gonna meet about where some

761
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: of these charitable contributions are going to go to, which

762
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: are probably gonna be young kids in the New Orleans

763
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: area to expose them to certain things. But we're all

764
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 3: going to it looks like attempt to row across the

765
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 3: Arctic Ocean and that's going to be twenty twenty five.

766
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: Now you know, I'm a Miami boy, so you know

767
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: how cold. Yeah, well it's gonna be in the summer.

768
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: It's like twenty four hour day life. But obviously it's

769
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: very dangerous. And then after that we plan to possibly

770
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: row across the Pacific Ocean. Now that's that's all of

771
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: these things are very dangerous obviously, and we're gonna have

772
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: to get a lot of certifications. Yeah, but that's what's

773
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: next for me.

774
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: Man, is how long bro like just guesstimate, like how

775
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: long would that take to cross an ocean?

776
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, well, it just depends on which ocean you

777
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: cross and at what time of year. But most likely

778
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: if we do it, if we do one of these

779
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: open ocean races, is we're most likely going to do

780
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: the Pacific, which it would be from California to Hawaii,

781
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: and that can take anywhere between thirty to forty some days.

782
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: And the very interesting about this is I'm going to

783
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: film a lot of this and most likely make a

784
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: document out of it. One Jimmy biggest Jimmy, can we

785
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: just talk about this one? You have? Everybody else knows

786
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: how to row, but I've never rode before. So that's

787
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: where this is so interesting. Is it's going to be

788
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: comical because obviously I'm very competitive. My boy, he's beyond competitive.

789
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: So it to just be us basically talking to uh,

790
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: you know, also me trying to learn how to roam.

791
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I've never sustained rowing. I've never

792
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 3: rode in the open ocean. I've never been on a rowboat.

793
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 3: All of these things are factors. But where I think

794
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: this works in my favor is one, we're chasing world

795
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 3: records and we're and we're doing it for a great cause.

796
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: But two, if I can roll across, if I can

797
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 3: roll across the ocean sailing a big yacht, it's going

798
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: to be easy. So that's if.

799
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: That's your motivation.

800
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like practice for the for the solo sailing.

801
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: And that's that's kind of the way I see it.

802
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: And you know, it just really gives me something to

803
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: look forward to and you know, something that athletically I

804
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: can push myself in a new direction. You know, and

805
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: I don't have to take hits anymore. I can just

806
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: sit there and just get to work.

807
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: What the bro Me and Mark was like, you know,

808
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: we do like these family vacation you know vacations whatever. Bro.

809
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: We were in the Caribbean on this yacht and you

810
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: know how they like dock it, like you know whatever

811
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: that is they dock it. Let's call it three four

812
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: hundred yards out from the beach right depending on where

813
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: it's at. Me and him were like, hey man, you

814
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: think you could make the other side. So we swam

815
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: to the to the beach and we're like dog as

816
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: tired after a ten minutes swim.

817
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: You're trying to roll, you're trying to row for thirty days.

818
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: Can technically yeah, what's also yeah, Like, what's also interesting

819
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: about it is it pushes you in every way mentally physically.

820
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 3: You know, we are going to only get two hour breaks,

821
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: so you know, basically you're off for two hours, and

822
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: I think that means you don't get another time off.

823
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: So you row for six and you're off another two

824
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: and so over a cumulative time, I think you getting

825
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: like six hours of sleep a day, maybe five, But

826
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 3: within your two hours, your responsibilities. You have to clean obviously,

827
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: do some it depends on what your job is as

828
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 3: far as tracking goes moving, obviously, you've got to get

829
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: some sleep during that period. So not only is it

830
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: challenging like that, but it's also you're dealing with a

831
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: lot of sleep deprivation. You're dealing with if you're doing

832
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 3: the Pacific, you're dealing with storms obviously and being on

833
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 3: a rowboat at night. So that's why I believe this

834
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: will just prepare me for the sailing. I'll be able

835
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: to use what I've learned in sailing and flying as

836
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 3: far as weather and tracking to go to this rowing thing.

837
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: But but but selling, you're like sort of you're by

838
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: yourself on this right, So really it's just you tracking.

839
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: You Yes, yeah, rowing rowing, it's literally.

840
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 2: Like a team.

841
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: And as much as I love my teammates, I couldn't

842
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: imagine being like me and you know Carl and Peyton

843
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: Turner and Malcolm Roach.

844
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: For thirty straight days.

845
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're.

846
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: Not catching sleep like that. Somebody, somebody's getting thrown off

847
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: the rowboat.

848
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: Somebody. Well see this is see, this is some of

849
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: the most challenging parts of it is obviously the team

850
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: personalities matter. You know, we're gonna do a bunch of

851
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: team building activities just to make sure we're all the

852
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: right people to be on the boat. But but then,

853
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: but then, also you get super close to each other.

854
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: Obviously because there's no bathroom on this boat, there's just

855
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 3: gonna be there's just gonna be a carbon fipper bucket.

856
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: So you know, well, I didn't even think about, oh yeah,

857
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: what second, I got to take a piss rowing I'm

858
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: going way.

859
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: It's always getting pissed on, I'm calling it now.

860
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: Oh for sure. Well, I mean, like imagine rough Seas,

861
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 3: big storm. Uh, you know, it's it's this is gonna

862
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: be the hardest thing I've ever signed up for, to

863
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: be the hardest thing I've ever done, and it'll be the

864
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 3: most challenging. But I believe that, you know, obviously after

865
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: I get done with this, and obviously being able to

866
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: do this with uh, you know, one of my best friends,

867
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: and to share this experience with him, and to obviously

868
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: do it for a great cause. I think there's nothing

869
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: better I could sign up for. Immediately right after a

870
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: football storm.

871
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: Sign me up, man, fat, I mean, when you say

872
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: what's next, most people thinking you know are like the

873
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: pe guys, they're like private equity or like, oh, I'm

874
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna start flipping houses. Oh I'm gonna get into you

875
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: know whatever. That next phase is start a podcast and

876
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: you are like, yeah, I'm gonna go thirty forty days

877
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: in the Arctic.

878
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 3: Well, well, you know obviously with businessman, I'm you know,

879
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: I've been always active and I don't think people.

880
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but that's not something you picked up. That's

881
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: something that's you know, you've been.

882
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 3: On Yeah, yeah, one hundred. So I'm I'm obviously gonna

883
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: keep doing that at scaling all of the things that

884
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: I'm that I'm involved with.

885
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just be I'll be waiting for my phone call.

886
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: It won't come, but it's okay. I know officially he's

887
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: gonna call, will you and you? Between between you and

888
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: John Wilma, I don't know who keeps more secrets from me.

889
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: I'll be like Roes, I have liquid.

890
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I've got some big things down a popular man.

891
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: I'll definitely keep you up to day.

892
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: Before I get you out here.

893
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: Man, you've been a tight end who's played at such

894
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: at the highest level, at being all pro you know,

895
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: pro bowler been. You know, You've done so many miraculous things,

896
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: seen so many playoffs. Who do you got winning this year?

897
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: We're getting down, We're getting down to the to the

898
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: to the final final.

899
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: That's it's a hard one because there's there's there's there's

900
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 3: people I would love to win.

901
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: There's four teams left. I hear you.

902
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: I mean, man, I would love to see Baltimore doing

903
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, uh, I would love to see

904
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: you know, just I think personally Lamar, I feel like

905
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 3: he's gotten so much black and so many people just

906
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 3: don't believe in him and believe in the way they plays.

907
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: But I think he the way he's been playing, especially

908
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: as of late, it's just special. And I think he's

909
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: done a lot to change the game and continue to

910
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: evolve the game. But you know it, how like to me,

911
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: how UNBELIEVABLEILL be in Baltimore versus Line super Bowl, which

912
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: is something that no one would have ever predicted, no

913
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: doubt ever ever.

914
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: Ticket sales been going crazy in Detroit. I don't know

915
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: if you say that, like the highest detail value tickets today.

916
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's crazy. I mean because I played against

917
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: the Lions over the last however long and those things

918
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: were free and uh, but but not anymore. Man. It's

919
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: it's it's just unbelievable what what Dan's men will do

920
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: out there, you know, obviously turning that place around, changing

921
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: the culture, changing the environment, and just having people understand

922
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: how poor winning is, and you know, just kind of

923
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 3: turning the team into the same exact blue collar, hard

924
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: gritty type of community.

925
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: Dan Kelp said, we're gonna crawl and we go if

926
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: we need to take bit n cats off.

927
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: Exactly years later, they lie people. People thought it was crazy.

928
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: He said it, but he wouldn't line. He wouldn't line

929
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 3: because that's what they're doing for sure, looking.

930
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: At him, like, what are you talking about. Nah, he's

931
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: from a different era.

932
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: He believes in doing all that he's saying, Like he

933
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: actually played the game for ten years. Like if there's

934
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: coaches that can't say that he said, and he meant it,

935
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: and the team bought in, and he would go get

936
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: guys like you know, Chauncey Gardner Johnson, you know he

937
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 1: would you know, he was drafted a guy like Aiden

938
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: Hutchinson playing lights out just like a nitty gritty worker.

939
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: You know, he brought it Aaron Glenn is a A G.

940
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: Was a decordinator for Yeah it was it, uh dB

941
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: coach for US and now DC over at Detroit.

942
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 2: Man.

943
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: Great dude, but he has that old school mentality. They

944
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: played and they're like, but he said something like, no,

945
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna work.

946
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: No, he's seen that, and you know, I mean, I

947
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: think there's him to be said about that. You know,

948
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: it's it's you know, uh, you know, bringing bringing the

949
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: NFL back to a little bit of some of that

950
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: old school stuff, you know. I mean it's it's uh,

951
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: you know, we got introduced to it as young players.

952
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: We knew on a crazy level. You know. My my

953
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 3: rookie year was the last.

954
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: Jeremy Shocky as y O G.

955
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: I like, and he was the last of the rock

956
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: stars that you were like mandout him.

957
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: I mean, first it was two a day's still to

958
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 3: PATA practice of the day training camps in New Orleans

959
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: with Seam Payton. I'll let you know what time it is.

960
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: It was absolute hell. I was calling home like I

961
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: don't know if I could do this. I mean I was,

962
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: I mean because Shocky, I mean, first off, being his

963
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: rookie was like iconic almost because they just won a

964
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: super Bowl. He was the rock star. He he was,

965
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 3: he was a rock star. I mean everybody wanted to

966
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: be around him. I remember just leaving a bar and

967
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 3: running down the street because people are chasing us down

968
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 3: the street like like rock stars, and it was it

969
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 3: was so cool to experience. But also Shaki is hilarious

970
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: and like I remember one morning he was like he

971
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: was like, hey, big dog, Uh yes, it seems like

972
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 3: my basin be going out today. But I was like, what, bro,

973
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 3: really go Bro, We're in stretch. This dude's back tightened

974
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: up just like you said. And it was like the

975
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: first brit is too, So I had to go with

976
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: the ones, twos, and threes. First time I was in

977
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: the one huddle like just didn't know what he was

978
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: talking about. And then we came back for that like

979
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 3: two or three o'clock practice in the dead of heat,

980
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: another two hour practice, all me absolutely brutal.

981
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 2: Come get this work.

982
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: Speaking of Shaki, who's in your tight end Rushmore?

983
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: If there was to be a tight End Rushmore, my

984
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: Titan Rushmore, your tight end Rushmore.

985
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 3: As far as like for my career or like complete like.

986
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 2: Complete, however you want to take that.

987
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna say on who it influenced my

988
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 3: career the most. It was like the people had true

989
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: influence on my career. Obviously Jimmie Shockey, you know, I

990
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 3: mean I was his rookie, and then it would I

991
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: would definitely say Ben Watson. Ben Watson was a big

992
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: part of that. You know, just kind of how he was,

993
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: you know, how kind of his approach to the game,

994
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 3: and and and just how he operated. And then I was,

995
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 3: you know, obviously blessed enough to play with Mercedes Lewis.

996
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 3: You know, he's he's his hands like it's it's insane

997
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 3: what he's doing. And you know, I don't think he

998
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: gets even enough credit for it. It's like when years

999
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 3: it was eighteen or something disgusting, I don't know, something

1000
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: crazy crazy. And he's in the I mean he's in

1001
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: the trenches. You know, he's lost putting hands on them.

1002
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: He's not really a receiver tight end. The more East no, no,

1003
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: and and uh, it's I mean it's just like unbelievable

1004
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 3: to see. I mean truly truly unbelievable to see. Man.

1005
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 3: You know, those are the guys that kind of had

1006
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 3: the biggest influence on my career. Obviously, I ob would

1007
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: say Dave Thomas. A lot of people don't know who

1008
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 3: he is, but he's the one who actually taught me

1009
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: the like.

1010
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: Mental University of Texas.

1011
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, won a national championship, won a Super Bowl, but

1012
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: he's the one who taught me the mental aspect of

1013
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: the game, as far as understanding coverage, understanding all these things.

1014
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: And then Shaky taught me the attitude. You know. I

1015
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 3: remember something happened. There was like a drop in practice,

1016
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: and Shaky ran up to me and he said some

1017
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 3: other words. I'm not gonna say the podcast, but he

1018
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 3: basically boiled it down to you're from the U, and

1019
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: we don't walk around and do it like that. He said,

1020
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: we hold ourselves to a higher standard. And from that

1021
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 3: day on, yes, sir, oh yeah, no, no, no, I just cared.

1022
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I carried myself like I was untouchable. And

1023
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: sure enough, I think it translated to the field.

1024
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, we'll take that.

1025
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate you tapping in, you know, mister pro bowler,

1026
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: mister allpro, mister sixty thousand freaking feet in the air,

1027
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: flying planes, helicopters now wanting to roll across the ocean's

1028
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 1: nautical miles being added on.

1029
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: To the experiences.

1030
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much, not only for the tight

1031
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: end that you are, but just like the overall phenomenal

1032
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: person that you are and and everything that you know

1033
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 1: that you've done over your career does it will probably

1034
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: never get overlooked because you're a Saints Hall of Famer.

1035
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: You know, your your character has spoken so much volumes

1036
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: by even coming back, and if this is it finishing

1037
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: your career with the Saints, you know, it's always black

1038
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: and gold forever.

1039
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: But just it's I'm a Jimmy Graham fan, you know.

1040
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 2: Just I'm a big Jimmy g guy.

1041
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

1042
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: And it's not Garoppolo, It's Jimmy Graham. It's him, him,

1043
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham. If you will, you know, so, I appreciate

1044
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: you tapping out, tapping in with me off the Edge podcast.

1045
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 2: So there you have it. It's a round. I just

1046
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 2: want to say a huge thank you to all my

1047
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: awesome listeners for rocking with me.

1048
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: I've got a whole locker room full of my favorite

1049
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: interviews from season.

1050
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: One coming your way. But before I go, you know,

1051
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 2: the drill, come on.

1052
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: Now, make sure to drop us a five star rating

1053
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: or review and hit that follow up button on Apple Podcasts,

1054
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can

1055
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: also catch us on YouTube on the official YouTube page

1056
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: of the NFL.

1057
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: Till next time, I'm out.