1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody yn Middle Coop three and 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Out podcast, Back and at it again. Free agency. I 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't call it done. We still got players out there, 4 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: but it's you know, it winds down the second and 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: third tier free agents, the older players you see, the 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Justin Houston's of the world, you know still around there. 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna be signings that happened in the next week 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: or two that are gonna have a big impact in 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: the fall. But the big name and the big money 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: guys are are off the table. There's actually a lot 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: going on. I saw this weekend Vegas has the Browns 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: as the favorite to win the a f C North. 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: I got some thoughts on that. There was a story 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: from my colleague at the Athletic Victafer who covers the Raiders, 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: that the Oakland Raiders won an award at the Sloan Conference, 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: which is the conference run by Darryl Moorey. It's like 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: the an political conference that they have the best trade 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: of the year, which I think is an absolute joke. 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: And when I say the best trade of the year, 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 1: it's not a mari for a one. The Khalil Mack trade, 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: like the Sloane Conference, gave them credit for the Khalil 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Mack trade. Got some takes there. I don't remember free 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: agency ever happening before where a team loses a couple 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: of key players and that incumbent quarterback on that team 25 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: reputation was more just you know, destroyed in a short 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: period of time. Has Ben Roethlisberger's hash. We'll talk about 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: that and then I I don't an apology to my 28 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: my favorite coach of all time. I've been I've been 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: reading The Millennial Way a k a audio book, The 30 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: Belichick Book by Ian O'Connor. It's really good. If you 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: like football, and if you listen to podcast you probably do. 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: But if you just just like, you know, reading about 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: the highest level human probably to ever come in to 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the NFL, it is a fantastic read. Slash again for 35 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: me listen, but it's it's a really good listen. I'm 36 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: only like the Cleveland Browns part. Haven't even got to 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots yet. It's really good. I highly recommended, uh, 38 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: some of the stuff in there on him and Parcels 39 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: was fantastic. So we'll talk about that and then we'll 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: get to the Middlecoff mail bag slide up in my 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: d M s at John Middlecoff on Instagram fire on 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: in there. Same my Twitter account also got a YouTube channel, 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff. You can find me all over the internet 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: and uh, I'll be giving sports takes. But if you 45 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: want your question answered for this podcast, you've got to 46 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: go in my direct messages Instagram and ask me a question. 47 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: I got a lot, I got some questions to answer, uh, 48 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: and we'll get to that a little later. Start with 49 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: the Browns. I've been thinking a lot about this, uh, 50 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: and it really kind of hammered at home when I 51 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: saw a headline by Florio and Pro Football Talk that 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: Vegas made the Browns the favorite to win the a 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: f C North. And I said, Jesus, I mean, is 54 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: it should we pump the brakes a little bit? And 55 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: then I started realizing, Well, on paper, it's not that crazy, right. 56 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: They add Odell Beckham Jr. They got rid of Hugh Jackson, 57 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: they have this young quarterback that looks really good. The 58 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: Steelers got worse. I mean, they're They're two best players 59 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: are now gone. Now. Granted one guy didn't play last 60 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: year in Levion, but that's a big loss for him. 61 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: Antonio has been one of the best players in franchise 62 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: history gone. The Ravens are going through a just a 63 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: period of transition, you know in Lamar Jackson. How can 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: their offense kind of change and what will look like 65 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: with a full off season and next year? And the 66 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: Bengals are in shambles, So it's not that nuts. But 67 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: then I started thinking, has there been a coach, a 68 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: first time head coach in recent memory with more tangible 69 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: pressure on them to win now, like legitimately to win now? 70 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: Matt Maggie Coach of the year last year, they didn't 71 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: have that much. Sure, if you would have got eight 72 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: and eight, it would have been a good year. Now, 73 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: granted he ended up winning the division and hosting a 74 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: playoff game. You look at Gruden last year, there was 75 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: a ton of hype, but it was marked for a salary, 76 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: not necessarily him. And then once he traded Khalil Mack, 77 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to say he gotta pass, but people 78 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: looked at the team a little differently, like he was 79 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: punting on the season, and it turns out he was. Well, 80 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 1: the Browns have gotten the opposite, right, They got Freddy Kitchen, 81 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: first time head coach, really was a first time coordinator 82 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: last year and they already handed him a pretty good team. 83 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: And then they added Odell Beckham Jr. So you're like 84 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: g And they traded for Olivier Vernon like they did 85 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: some they had some other sweet moves added Kareem Hunt. 86 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: Like these guys. These guys are wheeling and dealing. Their 87 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: personnel on paper is fantastic. Their personnel on paper is 88 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: a playoff team. But we know over and over that 89 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: football has not played on paper. Now, I was a 90 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: part of the quote unquote dream team. The differences the 91 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: Browns have much more young, just ascending talent with Baker, 92 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: who's a really accurate quarterback. They have an elite slot 93 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: receiver in Jarvis Landry. They have a really good running 94 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: back in Nick Chub and Odell Beckham is a game changer, 95 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: and the tight end of Joe Coup is really good. 96 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: And defensively they have some pieces. But I would say 97 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: anything less than Matt Naggie's first season where he won 98 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 1: the division and hosted a playoff game, would almost feel 99 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: like a letdown for the Browns. It's crazy to say, 100 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: but it feels like the Browns are a locked playoff team, 101 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: and I think we usually can do that with certain coaches, 102 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: but most time in the NFL, things sneak up on 103 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: you hard boss. First year, Matt Naggie's first year, even 104 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: when Andy Reid got to the kanc Chiefs, they were 105 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: drafting one overall. The next year they make the playoffs. 106 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: I mean that his first year they made the playoffs. 107 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone quite saw that coming. But usually 108 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: no right away when you got a really good head coach, 109 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: I think the pressure on Freddie Kitchens, who again I'm 110 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: rooting for chubby bald guy Red Rosy Cheeks quarterback at 111 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: Alabama back in the early nineties. I want him to 112 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: do well, but I don't think in recent memory, you 113 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: just go all these new coaches. The just the the 114 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: amount of pressure on this guy's shoulder to lead this 115 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: team to the playoffs. He takes pressure away from Baker, 116 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: he takes pressure away from Odell. To me, it's all 117 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: on the head coach. The GM did everything he had 118 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: to do. Now, I'm always someone who says that, like 119 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: we just talked about GMS with personnel. John Dorsey hired 120 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchens, So Freddie Kitchen fails. That is on John Dorsey. 121 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: This is the first head coach he's ever hired because 122 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: when he got when he became the general manager of 123 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Andy Reid hired John Dorsey. It wasn't the 124 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: other way around. So this is whether Freddie Kitchen fails 125 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: or not, and I do think it will be somewhat 126 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: difficult for him to fail. But just to think that 127 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: they're a locked playoff team, say what you want about 128 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: the Steve's every single year they're competitive. The Ravens do 129 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: have a culture of just toughness, consistent on defense. John 130 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 1: Harbaugh has accomplished more Hell in one season than Freddy 131 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: Kitchen hasn't a lifetime. So that they're gonna jump those 132 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: two teams again, while easy on paper, is difficult in reality. 133 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: But it shows you when you make these enormous moves 134 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: and people think you have a young quarterback, they think 135 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 1: you're a playoff lock. And we see it all the time. 136 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: Like I thought the Raiders were gonna be a playoff 137 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: lock last year. This was before Khalil Mack was moved, 138 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: and the reality was they wouldn't have been even if 139 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: they would have kept Khalil Mack, because you know, it 140 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: turns out John Gruden there were sometimes there's egos in 141 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: front offices, like John Gruden was trying to have players 142 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: failed so he can make Reggie Mackenzie look bad. It 143 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: was low level stuff. The good thing is Freddy Kitchens 144 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: and John Dorsey are kind of tied at the hip, 145 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: So John Dorsey is gonna try to help him out, 146 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: and he's gonna try to help him out. But at 147 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: the end of the day, can you scheme up? And 148 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: can you on game day make moves that are better 149 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: than John Harmon, Mike Tomlin and whoever else, whether you're 150 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: playing Belichick, whether you're playing Andy Reid, whether you're playing 151 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: the San Diego Chargers, the Houston Texans, the Indianapolis Colts, Like, 152 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: can you out scheme those guys Monday through Saturday and 153 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: then on game day make in game adjustments? I don't know. 154 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: I would just history would show us. I'd probably bet 155 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: against it, as crazy as that sounds. As much as 156 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: I liked them on paper, the chances that Freddie Kitchens 157 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: at forty two has just been some under the radar 158 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: diamond in the rough seems a little outrageous. Now, am 159 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: I disputing that? It's not possible that? Yeah, he just 160 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: was kind of overlooked, you know, just a running back coach, 161 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: quarterback coach. He should have gotten his chance. He was 162 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: kind of got the shortage of the sick got screwed 163 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: kind of. Yeah, it's possible in this day and age, 164 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: with the media hype and with coaches how fast the 165 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: buzz grows. I would probably bet against that, though. I 166 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: think the pressure on Freddy Kitchens year one is as 167 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: immense as we've seen for any first time head coach. 168 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: You know, maybe ever and again if they do not 169 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year. If they do not make 170 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: the playoffs this year, it's not that crazy to think 171 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: like he could be a one and done coach again. 172 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm not anti fraidi Kitchens. I'm rooting for the guy. 173 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: But man, it's just that the heat is on. Okay. Uh. 174 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: This story really stood out to me and it my 175 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: my friend colleague at the Athletic in the Bay Area. 176 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: He's the Raiders beat reporter for the Athletic San Francisco, 177 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: has covered the Raiders since I've been the media in 178 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: the Bay Area forever. The big fellow vict Tafer. He 179 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: wrote an article where he got Darryl Morey on the 180 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: phone and Darryl, I guess they do a they do 181 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: an award for the best trade of the year, and 182 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: they awarded the best trade of the year to the 183 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: Raiders for trading Khalil Mack and what they got back. 184 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: And I mean I had to read it twice to 185 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: be honest with you. And then I read Darryll's quote 186 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: in the article that said analyticals. Analytics typically fly in 187 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: the face of conventional wisdom pretty often, so like when 188 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: everyone's hanging a left, they hang it right. They typically 189 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: disagree with just conventional wisdom. But I I don't think 190 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: this is that complicated. Who won and who lost his trade? Now, 191 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't think we have a a loser quite yet, 192 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: but I think under zero circumstances, can you give the 193 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: Raiders a win? Right now? The Chicago Bears, essentially as 194 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: we sit here today, traded pick twenty three. Think about this. 195 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham just got traded for pick seventeen, which by 196 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: far was the best asset in that trade. And the 197 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: Giants are getting eviscerated, absolutely destroyed. Their general manager is 198 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: called a dumb shit every day, and they gave up 199 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: seventeen for Odo Beckham Khalil Mack. Every team in the 200 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: league would rather have Khalil mac the Node Beckham. He's durable, 201 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't miss games. He missed a couple this year, 202 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: but for the most part he's been very healthy, high 203 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: character guy, zero issues, none And then this year when 204 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: he was on the Chicago Bears, he was an All 205 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: Pro pro bowler, an elite player, like I got news 206 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: for you, like them getting two first rounders. Wasn't that crazy? 207 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: If Aaron Donald and Khalil Mack were put on the 208 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: trading block last year, both of them would have got 209 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: that type package. Why because their Hall of Fame level players. 210 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears, as we sit here right now, won 211 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: the trade. The Raiders got picked twenty three, and then 212 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: next year the Bears are gonna be good again, so 213 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna get picked five. They also swapped second and 214 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: third round picks, so if the Raiders go six and 215 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: ten this year, the Bears get their second round pick. 216 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: Jared Colin talks about this all the time, that Jerry's 217 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: famous quote, and I've been thinking about it forever ever 218 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: since I heard it. You never get a premium without 219 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: paying a premium. It's like in the Bay Area when 220 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: I bought Mike the condo that I'm living in right now. 221 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: I over the bid was at a number. I overbid 222 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: it by fifty thousand dollars. Actually more was like sixty dollars. 223 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: I was then in the final four. I didn't even 224 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: get it. And there were places down the street for 225 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: almost double the amount of money, a little less, probably 226 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: more than what I paid a nicer building. There was 227 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: a really really expensive I couldn't even really afford it 228 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: at the time, but I I wanted to live there. 229 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: And at the time it's like, God, you're gonna pay 230 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: that much for it was a one bedroom condo. I 231 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: live in a two bedroom condo. The two bedroom condos 232 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: there were almost double what I paid for my place. Well, 233 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: I just googled before. I've been going on this little 234 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: ramp that places up like two grand in the last 235 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, twenty five months. So you buy a premium, 236 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: you pay a lot. You usually are it's reciprocated. Like 237 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: the Bears would do that trade a hundred times out 238 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: of a hundred. I can't say the same for the Raiders. 239 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna find out. Also, this notion and Darryl Morey's 240 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: big thing is like first round picks are valuable. Yeah, 241 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: if you told me. The Bears had gone five and 242 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: eleven and the Raiders had picked four, pick nine and 243 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: pick seven. I go, yeah, pretty good trade. But I'm 244 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: sorry Khalil Mack. Every multiple teams were offering multiple ones, 245 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: and every team in the league was willing to pay him. 246 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: That they won the trade. I'm honestly kind of had 247 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: a loss. I think under no circumstances, in no way. 248 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: And Daryl was like, I had to tell the Raider 249 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: guys and they were like, are you giving me ship? No, 250 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm telling you the truth. You won this award. I 251 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: think it's a joke to be honest with you, because 252 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: I go, I go, hey, Daryl, would you train James 253 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: Harden for five first rounders let's say the equivalent in 254 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: the NBA. He'd say no. Let say, of course not. 255 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: You don't ever give up Hall of Fame players that 256 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: are good humans and dominate. He took the Bears, and 257 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people with the Bears, uh 258 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: in the scouting department of the head coach, they was 259 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: they thought they were gonna be solid before the Khalil 260 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: Mack trade. I mean they added Roquan Smith and Cleil 261 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: mac in the off season. They had a naggie. They 262 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: thought they were gonna be you know, eight nine wins. 263 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: He took them to eleven twelve wins. Like Khalil Mack 264 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: is a difference maker. I watched him carry one of 265 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: the worst defenses I've ever seen and make them respectable 266 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: because he's a turnover machine and helped the Raiders get 267 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: in the playoffs a couple of years ago. And again 268 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: he's this high character of a human is me personally 269 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: in my short time being around the league, ever been 270 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: around like you follow on Instagram when everyone's out partying 271 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: and clubbing, he's playing like Tic tac toe with his trainer, 272 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: shooting hoofs with his brother. Like, I'm sorry, that's the guy. 273 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: You trade two first round picks four and if you 274 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: are going to trade two first round picks for them, 275 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: they better be good first round picks. You know, the 276 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: Amari trade good on the Raiders. They weren't going to 277 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: pay them. They got picked twenty seven. Again not ideal. 278 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, what was the cost to acquire 279 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: You use the fifth overall pick on Khalil Mack and 280 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: now you're getting back the twenty third pick, and let's 281 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: say next year's pick do the twenty third pick and pick. Also, 282 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: when you have to swap your second round pick equal 283 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: the fifth overall pick, like Amari was the fourth overall pick, 284 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: you got back the pick. Okay, I'm sorry. Those aren't 285 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: good trades that they're just not not When those guys 286 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: keep playing well and they're sending players, their arrow is 287 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: not neutral. It's not pointing down, They're pointed up. I 288 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: hope Darryl Mori knows the Bears wouldn't trade Khalil mac 289 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: back to the Raiders for three first round picks. It's 290 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm believer in analytics. They do matter that This is 291 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: the most asked nine dumb award in the history of awards. 292 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of dumb awards I think I've 293 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: ever seen. It does not add up. Khalil Mack was 294 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: an All Pro and, beside Aaron Donald, probably the best 295 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: player in the league on defense. He was that good 296 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: last year. And the Raiders won the trade. Their their 297 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: fourth overall pick is their fourth overall pick the Bears 298 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: gave them twenty three and again, don't ever forget the Raiders. 299 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: While trading Khalil Mack in two thousand twenty did a 300 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: pick swap where they have to give up their second 301 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: round pick. That's insane. That would have been like gettleman, 302 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: including their next year's two to get like an extra three. 303 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: It was stupid. It made no sense. It's still to 304 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: this day. Because first off, you never trade a high 305 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: character as kicker, you in the prime of his career, 306 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: not when the salary cap is rising it enormous levels. 307 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: You you don't do it. Uh, you just don't make 308 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: that trade. And and you never give up an extra 309 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: asset in that trade, even if it is a pick swamp. 310 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: It was laughable at the time, not as bad now, 311 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: but still the Raiders by no means won the trade 312 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: and should be handed an award for the trade. One 313 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: thing since last year my dad passed away, and I 314 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: you know that there was a line, or just a 315 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: line that you never really truly become a man until 316 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: you become the man in your family and your dad dies. 317 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: And there is some you know, validity to me to 318 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: that statement. But I also think you just spend more time, 319 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: you know, thinking about the way you treat people, just 320 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: the basic things he taught you. You know, am I 321 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: living up to that standard? And you know the name 322 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: that you have is from him. You know, do people 323 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: that interact with me that you know, not professionally necessarily, 324 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: but that too, but just in any walk of life, 325 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: do you just do things the right way? And your 326 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: reputation in lie it does matter. Now people can make 327 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: up things about you, but for the most part, like 328 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: if your reputation is solid or is bad, that's gonna 329 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: get around. Like you can't really hide it, you know, 330 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: you can't. You are who you are. And one thing 331 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: has been pretty clear over this last week that the 332 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: reputation with Antonio Brown and Levion Bell leaving. Despite Antonio 333 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: Brown's craziness and Levian Bell making a terrible business decision, 334 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: their reputations haven't really changed much. But the one guy's reputation, 335 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: it's always been a little sketchy, you know. I think 336 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: in league circles known as a drama queen, not faking 337 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: injuries because he is tough, but just kind of making 338 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: them a little more than what they actually are. In Roethlisberger, 339 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: but the reputation of he might not be a great guy. 340 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: And we have some evidence right the thing that happened 341 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: in Tahole years ago. Some of the weird stuff over 342 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: the year with Todd Haley. Then there was a story 343 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: this weekend the Big Ben intentionally fumbled out of spite 344 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: because he wanted to kneel, and Haley called a run 345 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: with a minute left up ten in the video, I 346 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't say he didn't fumble on purpose, but it's hard 347 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: to say that he did fumble. You know. It's just 348 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: you can go either way. One thing is pretty clear though. 349 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: Ben's not the best guy, and he's not the easiest 350 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: guy to deal with when you look at the NFL 351 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: and quarterbacks, Like, say what you want about Rogers. He's 352 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: kind of an intellectual elitist. But I don't think people 353 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: say he's a bad human. Like Peyton Manning was really 354 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: hard on teammates, but everyone respected him one because he 355 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: was Peyton Manning and to just how hard he worked, 356 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: Uh just it was hard being him. You know, he 357 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: took all the bullets. Like Roethlisberger points the finger. Does 358 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: anyone in life, whatever business you work in, any office environment, 359 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: hate more than a finger pointer a guy, especially at 360 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: the top of the food chain, that refuses to take 361 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: sponsibility for his actions. Ben's the worst, probably in my 362 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: lifetime of covering sports and just being around sports. By 363 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: far the worst. It is never his fault ever, and 364 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: a B is really the first guy that's like this 365 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: is kind of bullshit, you know now? Is they be 366 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: perfect in this? No? But did he have a point? 367 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: Like why can big Ben just blame me for running 368 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: the wrong route when he threw into the defensive lineman? 369 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: Why can big Ben just blame other people, blame the 370 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: coach when it was his fault? Never takes any responsibility, 371 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: Like for all the people that you know, I've been 372 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: trying to act like Levian and Bell, Levian Bell and 373 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown got ruined over this last you know a 374 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: little bit, like their reputations got hit. I think no one, 375 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: and I don't even think it's close. I don't remember 376 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback taking a bigger reputation hit than Big Ben 377 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: over this last week. I think if you asked the 378 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: common guy, yeah he's a good player, but guy, he's 379 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: kind of slap. I wouldn't want to play with him now. 380 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: On the if you look at it, like the perfect 381 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: players like Brady, every teammate loves him, all the guys 382 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: like him, young and old, takes all the responsibility, the 383 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: ultimate player you'd want, it kind of feels like Roethlisberger's 384 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: the opposite. The Steelers chose Levian and Antonio over him too. 385 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: Big Ben's gonna be thirty seven, He's going into a 386 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: contract year, Like, is this really the guy that you 387 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: want to build it all around? You know? I mean 388 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: you have before and it worked and you've had a 389 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: lot of success, But is it over now? Like now 390 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: to the young guys? Do do? Tweeted about how much 391 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: he liked and respected Antonio. Did they know this is 392 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: all bs? You can only do the Bobby Night, do 393 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: as I say, not as I do, for so long 394 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: until you're not when you're a player in the quarterback 395 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: and you're not that as talented as you once were, 396 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: and people going, I'm not listening to this guy anymore. 397 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: This guy is a clown. And I think for the 398 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: first time you saw Antonio Brown, who I wouldn't say 399 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: was an equal playing field because at the end of 400 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: the day, Big Ben's a quarterback, but was as close 401 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: to an equal as you're gonna have. I mean, he 402 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: was the best wide receiver in the league for like 403 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: six years. Said this is bullshit, that this is just wrong. 404 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: This guy's mentality. It's like it's fifty two of us 405 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: and him, And again, I think you could pull that 406 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: off if you were Tom Brady, but Tom Brady doesn't 407 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: even attempt to do that. I think Big Ben's reputation 408 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say ruined, because you could argue his reputation 409 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: has never been that great, but it is not in 410 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: a good place right now. And I think the Steelers 411 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: need to be awfully careful. They've drafted to young quarterback. 412 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: Remember last year when they drafted Mason Rudolph and Mason's 413 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: like I can't wait to get around him. And then 414 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: the next day, like big Ben sent on his radio 415 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: show like I'm not gonna help him. It's just kind 416 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: of an asshole comment. I might not have set that 417 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: up perfectly verbatim, but then Big Ben kind of walked 418 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: it back. I mean, it's just kind of a dick move. 419 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: It's kind of annecessary like Ben, you had Antonio Brown, 420 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: Why why don't you try to figure out a way 421 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: to get it done now? The Levian thing was more money, 422 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: But it's always something with Big Ben. And I've been 423 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: a big fan of his as a player. I really 424 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: enjoyed watching him over the years. There's nothing like when 425 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: he was a younger player, and he was on just 426 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: because his ability to break tackles, keep plays alive, make 427 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: unreal throws. He's won two Super Bowls the starting quarterback 428 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: ben to another. His resume is fantastic, like five or 429 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: six time Pro bowler. He's gonna go to the Hall 430 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: of Fame one day. But one thing's clear, you know 431 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: as time's gone on that you know he's just the 432 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: Steelers went all in on a guy that's not really 433 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: the best guy, usually quarterbacks. You know, I was around 434 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: Michael Vick. He wasn't He had his flaws as a player, 435 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: but everyone loved him. The whole team liked him. You know, 436 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: I I see it with the Raider, like most guys 437 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: like Derek Carr, like when Kaepernick was really humming and 438 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: even Alex Smith, guys liked them. Now towards the end, 439 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: people didn't like Kaepernick as much, but people really liked 440 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: Alex Smith. Being liked by your teammates when you're the 441 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: main guy is pretty important. And when you play quarterback. 442 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: Does it matter if you play safety or guard. No, 443 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: But when you're the quarterback, people say, well, you're only 444 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: leading the office. Now you're kind of leading the team. 445 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: You know, the team, the coach, they're they're dependent on you. 446 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: It's like when Brett Beach was asked the Combine you 447 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: know people. Of course, Twitter was trying to make a 448 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: big deal about him saying that Patrick Mahomes playing basketball 449 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: that he had to nip that in the bud. He's 450 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: kind of being serious, but he's also he said it 451 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: on NFL Network at the Combine, like, hey, Patrick, the 452 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: entire this entire building, players, coaches, their families are now 453 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: depending on you. We're all in this on you. So 454 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: we need to play well, make right decisions, treat people 455 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: the right way. Your reputation when you're in that situation, 456 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: to me does kind of matter. And even if you 457 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: are a bad guy in the peak of your powers, 458 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: you can get away with it. But the older you get, 459 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: and Big Ben is not getting any younger, and he's 460 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: not he really he's been a kind of hit or 461 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: missed these last couple of years. Now his hit is 462 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: still really good, but he's got to be careful and 463 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: he's not gonna change. I mean, he is what he 464 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: is at this point as a human. But man, I 465 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: as someone that's always been a big fan of him, 466 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: I kind of questioned myself, like, is he a great guy? 467 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: Is he someone that I'd want to be associated with? Like, 468 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I've always kind of offended him, 469 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: But I'm starting to think twice that maybe he's the 470 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: one that should have been getting viscerated the last six 471 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: months and not Levian and Antonio Brown. I owe a 472 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: quick apology. Apology might be strong. But I had some 473 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: fun last podcast at the expense of the Hoodie, and 474 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: the Hoodie has been in Barbados with Google Linda, his girlfriend. 475 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: They've been having a good time. And one just topic 476 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: I did last week was pretty telling that free agency 477 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: is happening. The Hoodie has multiple big free agents, and 478 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: Trey Flowers and Trent Brown, and he went on vacation 479 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: pretty nuts, you know, pretty crazy, And you know what, 480 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: it turns out, I was even Peter King's article. It's 481 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: not called MQB anymore. It's like Football Morning in America 482 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: or something on NBC. And he had a lot of drowsy. 483 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: He talked to Peter, talked to Drew Rosenhouse about just 484 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: the movement of Antonio Brown and Trent Brown, and Rosenhouse 485 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: had a pretty telling quote in there. He basically just said, 486 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: don't let the pictures fool you. Belichick and I had 487 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: a conversation about Trent Brown, like Tuesday morning at four 488 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning, when he was in Barbados or whatever, 489 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: and it got me thinking, you you were not Bill Belichick. 490 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick eats, breathes, and sleeps football. Now he's at 491 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: the point in his career where he can go on 492 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: vacation and still do business, partly because of technology. I 493 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: used to tell my dad all the time, like I 494 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: can do business on my iPhone from the couch while 495 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: watching I can send emails, make calls. You have no 496 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: clue where I am at. I mean, hell, I do 497 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: what My business now runs out of the home office. 498 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: Everything is dependent on the Internet and WiFi. But I 499 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: was just Belichick didn't take last week off. He was 500 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: just not in his office. Why he was already prepared, 501 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: They had numbers set, he knew exist he is so 502 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: far ahead of the game, Belichick. I'm telling you this 503 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: book on Bill Belichick, in O'Connor's book, I think it's 504 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: just called Belichick. I'm listening to it. It's just fascinating 505 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: how how brilliant the guy is. And again I was 506 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: tweeting out the pictures making fun of him on here. 507 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: But Phil Savage wants to describe Bill Belichick, and he 508 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: worked for Bill Belichick in Cleveland. He said, there's a 509 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: football treadmill and it starts the first day of training 510 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: camp and it goes up until O t a's end, 511 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: so basically about ten months. And Belichick never breaks stride 512 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: for those ten months. Majority of humans fall off. Even 513 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: feels like it'll wear any human out. He doesn't break stride. 514 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: His Billy to understand the league, know the league, be 515 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: the smartest guy in the league, like he was calling 516 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: jerosanhouse because he would have taken Trent Brown back just 517 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: for the right price. Once they got to that number, 518 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: he was never gonna match it. But if he could 519 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: have got him, you know, for twenty million guaranteed, maybe 520 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: Trent Brown is still on the Patriots. But I think 521 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: we all and I'm included, just thought Belichick and Cougar 522 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: Lindo were swimming and who knows where Barbados Belichick running 523 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: around half naked doing flying squirrels off the dock. Like 524 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: Belichick doesn't even give a ship. Now he's he was 525 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: up at four thirty, you know, Colin Drew Rosenhouse checking 526 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: in with agents. I'm sure, checking in with the home base. 527 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: They know what they're doing. Six super Bowls later, he 528 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: actually won two and part of this book and it 529 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: was like you saw this if you watched the thirty 530 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: for thirty with him and Parcels. Like, Parcels was not 531 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: the scheme guy. Parcels was the leader. Belichick was the 532 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: scheme guy. Belichick was the guy that slowed down the 533 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: West Coast offense. Belichick was the genius. Over time, he's 534 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: developed some of the parcels Ian kind of attitude. Uh, 535 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: they go about it a little differently, but belichicks the 536 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: total package. And I think it shows you if you're 537 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: gonna be good at anything in life, you have to 538 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: be consumed by it. And I know, have you never 539 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: been on vacation with a girlfriend or even your family. 540 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: They're like, hey, can you just turn off your work? 541 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: Can you just separate? Just leave the phone at home? Now? 542 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: Now I can't. I got a big boy job. People 543 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: depend on me. I think about my job a lot. 544 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: It consumes me. Now it's not the healthiest way to live. 545 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: But find me the best person in any profession they're 546 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: thinking about their job in some form or fashion. And 547 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: I made the mistake of thinking that he was just 548 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: again swimming laps with his hot girlfriend, and it turns 549 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: out that was not the case. He was doing that. 550 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: But also while he's making phone calls, checking in probably 551 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: on every free agent he was interested in, he was 552 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: working the whole time. He just knew he didn't have 553 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: to be in the office. You'd go on vacation, and 554 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: you know what, you win your six Super Bowl, you 555 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: get to go on vacation. But like anyone that's the 556 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: best at what they do, even when you're on vacation, 557 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: you're working, and you're actually probably working more than even 558 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: you'd like to on vacation. But that that's the point 559 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: in time he's at in his career. He's so good 560 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: he can go to Barbados during free agency while still 561 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: keeping in touch and still beep. What would you say 562 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: the heavy favorite to win the Super Bowl in two thousand, 563 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty, They'd be my pick right now. They got 564 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: seven picks in the top ninety, they got their starting 565 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: left tackle coming back off injury, they still got t 566 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: B twelve, and they still got Bill Belichick. Okay, let's 567 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: get into the Middlecoff mail bag. You know the great 568 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 1: thing about Report doing a podcast is I actually just 569 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: went to dinner. Now I'm back, but it's all one podcast, 570 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: like I never even left. You know, if this was 571 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 1: a live show, I wouldn't have been able to do 572 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: what I just did. But I've been gone for an hour, 573 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: and if I didn't tell you knowing whatever. No, So 574 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: let's talk about Middlecoff mail bank question. Do it every week, 575 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: slide up in those d m s and I will 576 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: answer the questions from Instagram at John Middlecoff. Which is 577 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: my name? Is my handle? Okay, here's the question. I've 578 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: been getting a lot of Colts questions. Uh. I was 579 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: going back and forth with Trevor here and kind of 580 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: the crux of everything is I really appreciate you answer 581 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: to the Okay, I get the franchise tag issues with 582 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: some of the guys they've had gone after, but with 583 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback in place, he's talking about the Colts no 584 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: need for leverage and market wide receivers and pass rushers gone. 585 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: Where the funk are the Colts gonna spend all their 586 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: seventy million in cast space? And I responded, I just 587 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: said they ain't. They're just gonna roll it over and 588 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: they're poised to make a big trade, and he just says, 589 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: that's what I'm thinking to Ballard knows the opportunity. Plus 590 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: I got four picks in the top ninety. Bet they 591 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: trade for defense, uh, prime draft slots for guys like Deebo, 592 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: Sandal Debo, Miles Sanders, Ridley, and Kim Butler. How would 593 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: the approach How would you approach it if you were alum. 594 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: Just because you have money does not mean you need 595 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: to spend it, Like the Colts. I have no issue 596 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: with the forty signing d Ford, but I would have 597 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: had issue if they would have given that same contract 598 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: to trade Flowers. Like, if you're gonna spend money, you 599 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: have to do it intelligently. You also like keeping cap 600 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: space and then in the culture on a different level 601 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: than the Niners, but it keeps you in position to 602 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: do deals Like look at the Browns. If they just 603 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: would have wasted cap space over the last hell, even 604 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: before free agency on just other players, even last year, 605 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been in the position to sign to 606 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: trade for Odell Beckham. Like when you have cap space, 607 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: if you're the Colts, you can go trade for a 608 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson you can go trade for. I'm just this 609 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: guy's not on the trade blox. But like a Luke Keikley, 610 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: you can just trade for whoever. Like just spending the 611 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: money to spend the money in free agency and any 612 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: sport is dumb. Now if you can get a Kevin Durant, 613 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: if you can. Yet you know Odell Beckham, he wasn't 614 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: even a free agent. But you know what I'm saying, 615 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: Reggie White's the paytent manager. Yeah, but I'm not paying 616 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: Trent Brown top tackle money. That's just dumb money. Because 617 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: having space is a valuable commodity. You can just roll 618 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: it over every year. And I also think if you're 619 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: a Colts fan, it's not like Ballard. Who did they 620 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: not signed that they should have signed? Is my question. 621 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: The other thing is as a general manager, if your 622 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: coach doesn't like a player, like, let's say you are 623 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: a Colts fan and you go, we need corners. I'm 624 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: sure there weren't even that many corners, but let's just 625 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: say you need safeties. Now, they drafted the safety from 626 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: L s U a couple of years ago, but from 627 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: L s U they draft from all Jamal Adams is 628 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: on the Colts. Now I'm getting my safeties mixed up. 629 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: They have a safety. Oh, they had drafted hooker. They 630 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: drafted hooker from Ohio State. But let's just say they 631 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: need a safety. Let's say the coaches don't like Lamark, 632 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: his joiner, the honey Badger, Earl Thomas, and given what 633 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: you have to pay those guys, it's not crazy if 634 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: you don't pay them, because whenever you hear these coaches 635 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: and GM's talk about being in sync and you know, 636 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: having a direct line of communication, being on the same page. 637 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: You can't force players on your coaching staff. And I'm 638 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: just using these guys a random examples, But if your 639 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: coach doesn't like them, and then you sign a guy 640 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: to a big deal, that's usually where you get problems, 641 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: is because then when the high price guy underachieves. And 642 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: I got news for you that the coach can kind 643 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: of sabotage a player when you force him on it. 644 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: So they're just they have harmony in the building. They 645 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: have a good thing going. They got a ton of picks, 646 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: and I do think they are poised that if a 647 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: big time player like Julio Jones or Patrick Peterson, if 648 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: they're able to trade for a guy there in position 649 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: to trade for a guy. I think Chris Ballard knows 650 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: what he's doing. He clearly is a top flight, top 651 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: four or five GM in the league. Uh, he's patient 652 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: and patients as fans. It pisces us off. Sorry, I'm sorry, 653 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm Why did they sign the honey Badger? 654 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: Why didn't they sign Levan Bell? What? You know? Because 655 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: maybe he didn't fit, maybe the Coast didn't want him. 656 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: Maybe they think they got internal answers. I don't know, 657 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't think just spending caps face 658 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: is always smart. Like I like the Raiders signing of 659 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: Tyrrelle Williams and LaMarcus Joyner. I don't love the Trent 660 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: Brown money, Like that's pretty bold. Best guest, John, How 661 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: will the Raiders address the aad situation chances they make 662 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 1: a run at BOSA. I think the biggest wild card 663 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL right now is Josh Rosen. Like, is 664 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen gonna get traded the night of the draft, 665 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: because that's if Kyler Murray's on the Cardinals. That's kind 666 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: of feels like where we're headed right Josh Rosen is 667 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: a draft day trade. If he's a draft day trade, 668 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: Let's assume Murray goes to the goes to the Cardinals, 669 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: then you would assume him Bosa goes to the Niners. 670 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: But I do think let's say the Raiders loved Bosa. 671 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: I do think the rate the forty Niners would be open, Okay, 672 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: two to four and give us you gotta deal right there. 673 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: So if if the Raiders wanted Bosa, they could trade up. 674 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: They'd probably have to give one of their first round picks, 675 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: and they could also just sit there and get either 676 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen or Quinnin Williams, which I think would be 677 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: the right move. I wouldn't give up one of those picks, 678 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: I guess unless you really really uh like Bosa. And 679 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, I talked to people in the league. I 680 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: like Bosa. He looks like a really good player. His 681 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: workout was solid. That just don't quite think he's his brother. 682 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 1: He's clearly gonna go really high. And I also think 683 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: this is the time of year where you can over 684 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: analyze a player. It's clear the guy's good. If his 685 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: medical checks out, he's gonna be a good player. He's 686 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a really good player. If he's healthy. Now 687 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: you just have to balance it. If you're the Niners, 688 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: the Jets and the Raiders, who do you like more? 689 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: You know, how would you stack Bosa Williams and Alan 690 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: And I think certain scouts and certain front officers will 691 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: kind of have them stacked differently. Hell, there may be 692 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: a player outside of that group, whether it's Ned Oliver, 693 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: whether it's a sweat uh, the Simmons kid from Mississippi 694 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: State towards a c L. So he's not going in 695 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: the first round. But it's really the top ten this 696 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: year because of all the gary, all the good defensive lineman, 697 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: all the good defensive line prospects, throwing Devin White there too, 698 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: Like you're really gonna and they all tested well and 699 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: they all seem to be good character, high level guys. 700 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: It's just pure football, Like how do you rank these guys? 701 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's easy to be like, you know, I 702 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: don't like Josh Rosen as much of the personality. Lamar 703 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: Jackson can't throw. It was easier to stack it. I 704 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: would say every most teams had the top two quarterbacks 705 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: in some order. Baker Sam Sam Baker, Like, who are 706 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: the best defensive lineman? I think You're gonna see a 707 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: lot of differentiating opinions as we get closer to the 708 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: draft on this is it time? Is it time to 709 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: change the number of players allowed on active rosters? Highly special, specialized, 710 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: niche game talk niche players make the game much more 711 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: fun to watch, but high performance players are often injured, 712 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: and few injuries were will derail of season. These guys 713 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: trained so hard of such short careers. It's ridiculous that 714 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: a couple of injured teammates could ruin a season instead 715 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,720 Speaker 1: of making a whole new league of busted up players. 716 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: Why can't we just have more flexibility with pop I 717 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: know where you're going. I want to see sumo wrestler 718 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: lead blocker for a high jumper in a goal line situation? 719 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: Am I alone on this one? We can have fewer 720 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: lame duck seasons and foster creativity with offensive minds. I 721 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: think you might have jumped the chark a little bit, 722 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: but let's just talk in realistic terms the the active 723 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: game day roster right now? Yet you dress fifty three players, 724 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: right yet? You know you've got eight guys down on 725 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: game day that we all see it when we turn 726 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: on the like an NFL sideline. If you watch college 727 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: football on Saturday and each sideline is just jam packed, 728 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: like a hundred players of coaches everywhere, you can't even move. 729 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: And then you try on an NFL game, You're like, God, damn, 730 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: there's a lot of room because there is. There's only 731 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: fifty football players and only pass on and then half 732 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: the coaching steps is upstairs. So I I think you see, Yeah, 733 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: there's definitely a need for change there, and I would 734 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: imagine the next c b A there there is a 735 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: change because right now the situation just doesn't make that 736 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 1: much sense. Why do you have guys on your roster 737 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: but they can't be active on game day? It just 738 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: does not add up. I I completely agree. I think 739 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: it's stupid. Now sumo wrestlers or whatever is not necessarily needed. 740 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: But I see what you're saying, they need more people 741 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: active on game day. Middle cooff after seeing Dave Gettleman's 742 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: comments today on ELI can still play and played well 743 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: towards the end of last year. This has to be 744 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: a smoke screen just so Haskins can folded them and 745 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: maybe trade up for Murray. He can't honestly believe that, 746 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: or do you feel that's honestly how he thinks. It 747 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: just sounds so crazy to think someone feels that way. 748 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: But then again, as Dave, I suck at my job. 749 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: Gettleman keep up the content. Yeah. If for those you 750 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: didn't miss, I don't know where. He said this on 751 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: a local radio show that basically O'Dell like they felt 752 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: good about trading Odell. They thought Eli was good down 753 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,959 Speaker 1: the stretch again, the giants and Dave Gentleman think Eli 754 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: is still a really good player. I think he stinks. 755 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: I think Dave Gentleman is just, you know, might be 756 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: losing his mind. I'm okay with trading O'Dell. You just 757 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: have to get more back than the seventeen pick in 758 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: Jabril peppers. That's just not enough to me. You gotta 759 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: get at least like a one and a two. Anything 760 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: else is just fluff. His comments about Eli, I just 761 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: think the Mara's I think he thinks his bosses believe that. 762 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: I think his bosses love Eli Manning, so he knows. 763 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: We've all been in the situation that if you're working 764 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: for someone and they love something, you kind of go 765 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: over the top on that subject just because that guy 766 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: is gonna like you more in that situation. It's not 767 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: that crazy. I mean, the comment is crazy, But if 768 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna give Dave Gettleman the benefit of the doubt 769 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: that he's just saying that because he thinks is the 770 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: owner will like it, then that's more understandable if he 771 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: truly believes that he should be fired on the spot 772 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: for the podcast. For a team like the Colts with 773 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: a massive amount of salary cap space going into the season, 774 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: why not restructure a lot of players to front load 775 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: their deals. This would put them at a significant salary 776 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: cap advantage in two thousand twenty and beyond, because I mean, 777 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: how many players on the Colts actually make big money? 778 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 1: You know? I mean, beside Locke and t Y Hilton, 779 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,919 Speaker 1: who else makes cash? Hooker, all the rookies last year? 780 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: The running backs, even Eric Ebron was on a no 781 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: money contract. Their team is pretty cheap. I don't think 782 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: they're in cap hell moving forward because even lux deal, 783 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,720 Speaker 1: as we get years away from when he signed, it 784 00:41:54,520 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: is only gonna look better. I I think that I 785 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, but I don't think they need 786 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: to do that. Is John gonna draft Kyler Murray if 787 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: Arizona passes to me, if Arizona were to take Bosa 788 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 1: and play with Rosen, I would imagine that the forty 789 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: Niners tried to do a trade with the Raiders for 790 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray if John likes Kyler Murray. And that's the 791 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: hard part about this time of year. Who likes who? 792 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: It's it's hard to know. It's hard to know who 793 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: to believe. The longer Josh Rosen stays on the Cardinals, 794 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: I feel less confident in my theory that he's gonna 795 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 1: go one. And it's not really my theory. Hell, everyone 796 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: thinks that is right, just because there is the curveball 797 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: that they might keep Rosen. Well, what if what if 798 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: John Gruden Antonio Brown just flew into the to Oakland, 799 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: had a press conference, stayed with and hung out with Derek. 800 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: They threw multiple times in the East Bay. Then Derek 801 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 1: had a party for his son, He's like two year 802 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: old son at at Fresno State in the football stadium 803 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: and they just got a bunch of bounce houses. He 804 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: invited Antonio Brown and his kids. So now, if Jon 805 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: Gruden were to trade Derek on Draft night, that that 806 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: would be pretty cold blooded. That would be pretty cold blooded. 807 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: So I I don't know what to believe. I'm not 808 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: gonna be shocked with anything. If you tell me Kyler 809 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: Murray's a cardinal, Kyler Murray's a raider, I'm open to 810 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: any potential. Uh, nothing would shock me. But I don't 811 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: feel confident necessarily about one individual thing happening. Honestly, I 812 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: just don't know. I just I just do not know. Okay, 813 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: let's get some mailback questions. I was wondering if you 814 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 1: think that Nick Foles contract helps or hurts dak position 815 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: when negotiating the new deal with the Cowboys. I know 816 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: most Cowboy fans, including myself, would love to see him 817 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,240 Speaker 1: sign about twenty two million average per contract. Let's see 818 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: how many playoff wins is dac app He won a 819 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: game this year, Right, they won the first round against Seattle. 820 00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: They played Seattle. Yeah, they played Seattle. Right. He didn't 821 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: win two years ago when he was a rookie. So 822 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: he's got one playoff win. Folds has four. Now, Dak 823 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 1: has better seasons like Das had good seasons. Folds have 824 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: just had higher moments. Full signed for fifty five million 825 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed. I think I think that was the number. 826 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it's fifty, and I think whatever the total number was, 827 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 1: but as we all know, the total numbers kind of 828 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: bs to me. It's not about the average. It's what 829 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,479 Speaker 1: you have to guarantee, Dak. If if I can sign 830 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: Dac today for the Nick Foles guaranteed money, I do 831 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: that in a heartbeat. But does Dak want like Jimmy 832 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 1: Garoppolo Derek Carr type guaranteed, which their's was like seventy 833 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't feel quite as good. And I'm not saying that. 834 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: You just see when the guy doesn't play as well 835 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: like Derek's contract. Derek signs for seventy million dollars guaranteed 836 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: and they starts playing it out like I don't quite 837 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: love this. But if he's good, you feel good. It's 838 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 1: just I'm with you. I don't know if it helps 839 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,479 Speaker 1: or hurts, because I don't know if their careers really 840 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: parallel each other. I think Dallas and Jerry Jones would 841 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: drive the contract negotiator to Dak's house right now if 842 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: they would sign that contract. I just don't think the 843 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,760 Speaker 1: DAC would sign that contract, though I think that's probably 844 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 1: what he's worth. But you know, in sports, as in life, 845 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: you don't always sign for what you're worth. Uh. I'm 846 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: listening to your rant on Levian Bell's holdout sacrificing fourteen 847 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: and a half million, and for the most part, I agree. However, 848 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: if he suffers a severe to career ending injury this 849 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: first year, and we assumed that this could have happened 850 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: during the franchise tag year, would he not end up 851 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: with eleven million dollars more? I believe your argument with 852 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy g Z a c L. You stated that an 853 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: injury can just be bound to happen regardless. Here's my thing, though, 854 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: what about all the players that just went into free agency? 855 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: Trent Brown, Trey Flowers, just the countless players in free 856 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: agency that have signed Golden tatees uh LaMarcus, uh LaMarcus, 857 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: not LaMarcus, DeMarcus. Lawrence called him LaMarcus. I was watching 858 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: the Warriors game earlier. LaMarcus, Aldrews, demark Is Lawrence, Frank Clark, 859 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: all these guys, they're heading into their free ages year. 860 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: All of them they played. I guess football is risky. 861 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, if he chatters his ankle or 862 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: whatever tears his a c L might have been bound 863 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: to happen. But couldn't that be said for every player 864 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: that's heading into their contract year. Why why does anyone play? 865 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: I've been kind of serious year because I think we've 866 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,240 Speaker 1: kind of jumped the shark because I feel no sympathy 867 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: for a guy that had fourteen and a half million dollars. 868 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: And again, how often do career ending injuries happen, like 869 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: once every other year to a player. I mean Ryan 870 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: Shazier had the neck injury, Alex Smith had the foot, 871 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: So we've had like two in the last two years, 872 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: like one a year. The chance that can be leving 873 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 1: on Bell now again, there's always a chance. But why 874 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: Frank Clark play this season? Why DeMarcus Lawrence play this season? 875 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,919 Speaker 1: Why d Ford played this season? Why does any free 876 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: agent play this season? Those guys were making a lot 877 00:46:54,280 --> 00:47:02,839 Speaker 1: less than he was making. Uh. Sometimes like I'll open 878 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: up DM and it'll be some some porno mass email. 879 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: It's just you gotta decline it. The question what's going 880 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 1: on with at Oliver Stock The beginning of the season, 881 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: he was rumored to be a top five pick, and 882 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: I just see him slipping in mock drafts recently. Was 883 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 1: his junior season that disappointing. I'll be honest, I watch 884 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: him that much this season, but you talk to people 885 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL, they still like him a lot. I 886 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: think if his medical checked out of the combine, he's 887 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,399 Speaker 1: gonna end up going in the top ten. I think 888 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: the one knock is and you saw this when Aaron Donald, 889 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: who was a better prospect. When you're short at defensive tackle, 890 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: it just makes teams uneasy, like they they want their 891 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: defensive tackle. And again, this doesn't mean the guy's gonna 892 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: be good to be with Shawn Gary six ft five 893 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 1: to be even Quinn and Williams. I think he's what 894 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: six two and a half like Fletcher Cox. That's what 895 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: they want him to look at, Like what's what's at 896 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: Oliver six shade over six one. I mean Aaron Donald 897 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: is too, and he kicks ass and takes names. But 898 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: when you are short at defensive tackle, it just can 899 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: make teams uneasy when they have to draft you in 900 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 1: the top seven or eight. So if he ends up 901 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: going like eleven or twelve, it's not that nuts. Remember 902 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: last year, make a Fitzpatrick, who I thought was a 903 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: top five player ends up going twelve. I mean, good 904 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: players just because you don't go in the top ten 905 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you weren't a top ten player. It happens 906 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: every year. So I think when the dust settles and 907 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: you know, regardless where he goes, and it kind of 908 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: does feel like he'll end up going probably nine, ten, eleven, twelve, 909 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 1: somewhere and there. When like you said, he was projected 910 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: as the top five pick, we might look back at 911 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: the draft in years ago. God, the best player was 912 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: at Oliver he was drafted eleven. Look at Kleil Mcinaron 913 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 1: Donald's draft. They weren't They didn't go one clear want five. 914 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: But where did Aaron Donald go, like twelve or thirteen? 915 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: Maybe he went eleven and I think O'Dell went thirteen. 916 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: I mean, great players go all the time and the 917 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: teams I say this all the time, like if you 918 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: tweet out so and so, I think the guy would 919 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: be a really good second round pick. People like hater 920 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: like going in the second round does not mean you suck. 921 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: This is not the NBA. There's seven rounds. If you 922 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: go in the second round, I can name like ten 923 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: players on top of my head. They win the second round, 924 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: they're pretty damn good and making a lot of money. 925 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 1: Shady McCoy de, Sean Jackson, Jimmy Garoppolo, Derek Carr. I 926 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: mean there are some all pros last year, Darius Lenner, 927 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: Davante Adams going in the second round is not some 928 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 1: like you just suck for perpetuity. A lot of good 929 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: players go. Drew Brees went in the second round. A 930 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: lot of good players go in the second round and 931 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: the third round. Like going on the second day. A 932 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: lot of good players go the second day. The only 933 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: thirties two guys can going around one unless Belichick gets 934 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: in trouble for something and they take away his pick 935 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: thirty two players. So if you're the thirty seventh player going, 936 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Zach Hurts my last year in Philly, how 937 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: did he turn out? He was he went in the 938 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: second round. You can be an elite player and you 939 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: go in the second round just for whatever reason. Like 940 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna see this year, there's gonna be a lot 941 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: of defensive players going. It's gonna be a couple of 942 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are gonna push players down. They're gonna be a 943 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: lot of good wide receivers. This year's class, they're gonna 944 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: go in the second round just because you're go in 945 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 1: the second round does not mean Levian Bell in the 946 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,320 Speaker 1: second round. Like to me, the second round means the 947 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: draft that you are thought highly of in the draft, 948 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: like if you go fifth, six, seventh round, Yeah, you're 949 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: not thought that highly of you in the second round. 950 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: Some teams might have thought you were a first round 951 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: That's a little peppieve of mine. But I appreciate everyone listening. 952 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: Three and out podcast. Uh, have a good night. March 953 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: Madness right around the corner. I think when i'll record 954 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: this later this week, we'll have some March Madness games 955 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: on favorite time of year, and hopefully some fun shit 956 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: happens this week in the NFL that I can talk 957 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 1: about again. I appreciate everyone listening. To share with your friends, 958 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: share one with your family, keep subscribing, unsubscribe, and subscribe again, 959 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: and just keep listening. Have a good day. May the 960 00:50:50,800 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: piece be with you. Godspeed, Audios until later this week.