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Speaker 1: Welcoming too a Monday morning Jags Am, I'm Kadannie Stevens,

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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, and John Osier are with me today. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about that last second loss to the Packers yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars fall two, two and six on the season.

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Speaker 1: It's all their fault. That's big thing, Number one. Easy

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Speaker 1: to blame things on the defense. After that play that

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Speaker 1: led to the field goal to win the game, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen talked about things after the thame.

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Speaker 2: Uh, this is definitely hurts right now. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: we had every opportunity to win a game, and you know,

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Speaker 2: again it comes back down to those you know, those

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Speaker 2: those those little those little mistakes for I don't know

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Speaker 2: what happened on that last place. You know, I think

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Speaker 2: she still got hurt or something. So hopefully he's he's

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Speaker 2: feeling all right. But you know this, this one was

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Speaker 2: definite gonna hurt cause i' but like we had a

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Speaker 2: great game, defense, league touch of the teams, pumplessly. You know,

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Speaker 2: I think we all made big plays when we needed

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Speaker 2: it the most, but we.

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Speaker 3: Didn't we didn't get this victory.

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Speaker 2: So you know that on this one really works.

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Speaker 1: Brian, we know what happened on that play. Now, we

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Speaker 1: saw Andre Cisco get Bee. He cramped up on that

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Speaker 1: play and it led to the field goal to win

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Speaker 1: the game. And obviously that's the last place so you

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Speaker 1: want to focus on that. But it was a lot

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Speaker 1: of moments in that game. And again we say this

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Speaker 1: every week that it comes down to those little moments

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Speaker 1: and that's what costs them these games.

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Speaker 4: Well, the thing it stands out to me, kay, is

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Speaker 4: this is the third time and six losses that they've

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Speaker 4: lost at the end of the game Miami, Houston and

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Speaker 4: now against Green Bay, and this defense at the moment

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Speaker 4: where they need to be their best, right with the

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Speaker 4: game on the line, couldn't come through and it you

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Speaker 4: know it. I don't know what to say other than

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Speaker 4: they just can't seem to hold up when they need

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Speaker 4: them the most.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cleveland sort of fits that too. It was a

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Speaker 3: little different, but big play ye get stops a big moments.

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Speaker 3: In this league, the NFL, these days, you're not gonna

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Speaker 3: have shutouts, but you are going to have opportunities to

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Speaker 3: get off the field at big moments. And look, they're

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Speaker 3: not getting interior pressure and they're not able to cover

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Speaker 3: deep very well in the big moments or in other moments,

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Speaker 3: big breakout plays with more time to throw than should be.

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Speaker 3: The case has defined the season and it defined sort

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Speaker 3: of their waterloo if you will, yesterday or.

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Speaker 1: Big thing number two. It's not their fault in that regard.

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Speaker 1: There's plenty of blant to go around. Yes, the defense

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Speaker 1: didn't play as well, but the offense couldn't get going

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Speaker 1: early once again another cold start. They turned the ball

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Speaker 1: over as well. Trevor Lawrence talked about some of the

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Speaker 1: issues on third down.

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Speaker 5: There's always a couple things, but it wasn't anything crazy.

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Speaker 5: We just did an execute and I missed a couple

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Speaker 5: throws on third down throughout the game. There are some

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Speaker 5: other ones where it just felt like the details weren't

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Speaker 5: good enough, whether that's being on the same page and

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Speaker 5: the perimeter, or it just seemed like some of the

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Speaker 5: details we were lacking a little bit early and some

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Speaker 5: of the third downs. They made some good plays too,

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Speaker 5: but we got to be able to convert some of

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Speaker 5: those third downs. I think we had two or three

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Speaker 5: three an ounce in a row to start the game

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Speaker 5: and put our defense in a tough spot, and they

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Speaker 5: were playing. They were playing great so yeah, we gotta

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Speaker 5: we gotta be better on third down. We've been better

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Speaker 5: for the last few weeks going into this game, and

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Speaker 5: we weren't.

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Speaker 1: Good at that John it was three three announced to

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Speaker 1: start the game, and Trevor Lawrence a great last drive

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Speaker 1: with a lot of backups on the field at that point.

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Speaker 1: But it's frustrating we can't see the offense do like

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Speaker 1: at the end.

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Speaker 3: It is, but you know, twenty seven points and to me,

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Speaker 3: two of the most impressive drives that this team's had

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Speaker 3: third quarter to take the lead was an impressive, methodical drive.

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Speaker 3: They got it going. The offense obviously isn't plea blames.

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Speaker 3: He had two point blank turnovers. They gave the Packers points,

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Speaker 3: and when discussing the Jaguars defense yesterday, that should be

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Speaker 3: taking a consideration too. They have some bad breaks early,

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Speaker 3: but to me, the offense got it going at big times,

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Speaker 6: Those are supposed to be the moments.

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Speaker 3: After you've sort of treaded water a little bit in

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go the other way. I think the

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Speaker 6: offense did n't have to win that game yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I wrote down in my notebook during the game, you

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Speaker 4: can't blame the defense for this because they kept the

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Speaker 4: game closer as the offense was sputtering for the second

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Speaker 4: straight week. If you recall from Wembley Stadium in London,

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Speaker 4: the Jaguars had twenty five yards on five plays in

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Speaker 4: the first quarter. Yesterday had fifteen on six plays. It

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Speaker 4: was preposterous to see the offense come out and completely unable. Now,

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Speaker 4: credit to the Packers defense. It's a good defense. It

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Speaker 4: makes things confusing. It took a little while for them

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Speaker 4: they gave up one touchdown and a couple of field goals,

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Speaker 4: and they kept the game close enough for Trevor to

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Speaker 4: make it thirteen to ten at the half and then

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Speaker 4: take the lead and then tie the game. So the

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Speaker 4: defense did a lot of good things yesterday. But then

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Speaker 4: they had the long drive after the Jags took the lead.

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Speaker 4: They gave up the touchdown drive to Malik Willis. The

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Speaker 4: backup quarterback. Look, Josh Jacobs is a really good running back,

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Speaker 4: but he's not Derrick Henry, although he ran through arm

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Speaker 4: tackles yesterday and looked just like Derrick Henry. So you

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Speaker 4: know that both sides offense slow. John just pointed out

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Speaker 4: twenty seven points. Great, but you buried yourself early, defense

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Speaker 4: buried itself late.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to our final big thing today, which is

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Speaker 1: maybe next man up. Not only did they lose that game,

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Speaker 1: they lost a lot of players in that game. Several

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Speaker 1: offensive players, three wide receivers went out. Christian Kirk's injury

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Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be long term. We don't

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Speaker 1: know quite yet what's wrong with Brian Thomas Junior will

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Speaker 1: update that throughout the week, but some you know, Ronald

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Speaker 1: Darby went out as well, some injuries on the offensive line. Brian,

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Speaker 1: them going forward. The injuries. Now they have to.

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Speaker 4: Deal with no rest for the weary. We were just

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Speaker 4: talking about getting players back for your luakon returning, perhaps

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Speaker 4: He did get back into the game yesterday, so that's

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Speaker 4: certainly a good sign. The receivers. That group looks like

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a mess for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 4: This is not gonna get easier. And you're going to Philadelphia. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you some great insight here she got.

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Speaker 4: It was one of those games. But sometimes in the

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Speaker 4: middle of a season, when you're laying it all on

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Speaker 4: the line and it's sort of the game that you

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Speaker 6: They're going all out. The Christian Kirk play.

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Speaker 3: What an effort, but the effort resulted in injury cause

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Speaker 3: you're just maxing out and now you're basically redlining.

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Speaker 6: I I d it. It was too bad for this

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Speaker 6: team that they didn't get that one yesterday. They deserved it,

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Speaker 6: They played well enough to get it. But the injuries

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Speaker 3: Gut punch that it was, it just feels like it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be tough to come back from that.

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Speaker 6: Injuries being the major.

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Speaker 1: Reason stay with a theor on jag Zam. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: look back at the tape against the Packers in the

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Speaker 1: last second loss. Welcome back into jag Zam this morning,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Fields Auto Group. Time to look

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Speaker 1: at some of the tape from yesterday. A frustrating loss

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Speaker 1: for this team, I mean, fall to two and six

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Speaker 1: on the season, so lots of questions. Let's look at

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Speaker 1: some of the tape room yesterday. We start out okay,

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Speaker 1: we started out not great on offense, but the defense,

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Speaker 1: you know, gotta stop on their first position, and then

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Speaker 1: they got a turnover in the second quarter, Jaron Jones

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Speaker 1: did get the you know what did we talk about

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Speaker 1: the Packers turn the ball over, use that as an

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Speaker 1: especially because some of the secondary play has been questionable

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Speaker 1: for the scene. To see Jaron Jones step up was

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Speaker 4: Talked about taking advantage of the balls that would be

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Speaker 4: thrown your way because Jordan Love is a quarterback that

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Speaker 4: will take chances. And you felt like Okay, you just

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Speaker 4: stopped a scoring drive. Great for the defense. Unfortunately then

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole first quarter to me was lost momentum,

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Speaker 3: lost opportunity, mainly because of the Logan Cook punt. He

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Speaker 3: It was still zero zero after that exchange. I know

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Speaker 3: the NFL is not a field position game anymore. It

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Speaker 3: and the interceptions were part of that. When they didn't

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Speaker 6: Sa if the offense couldn't score.

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Speaker 4: So they flipped it. You know, hidden yards aren't really

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Speaker 1: Opportunity, they need to take advantage, and as we talked about,

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Speaker 1: of gift wrapping them a touchdown after that point because

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Speaker 1: Obviously we know wherever Trevor was trying to go with

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Speaker 1: Trevor's turnovers unfortunately very very bad yardage to give them

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure who was wrong there, but I

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Speaker 3: I'm for Christian and to be holding hands at that point,

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Speaker 3: sou With interceptions like that, I always had to say, hey,

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Speaker 6: But it was huge.

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Speaker 3: I mean it, they had a chance to sort of

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Speaker 4: He leaned into him, He dodged reverse the route, and

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Speaker 4: Like, and you're not gonna go see that from Kirk, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's he had some catches in this game, and you're

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Speaker 4: Taking well to hell, we saw last year what it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of I thought, Trevor again, I feel

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Speaker 6: To have it not be stagnant.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a challenge for them to find

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Speaker 4: Yes, Traver's reaction here remember this because I'm going to

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Speaker 1: It's good to see it. Also, let's talk about this

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Speaker 3: For Brian, the focus will into yeah, and he'll have

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Speaker 3: I think they have a better backup plan for Christian

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Speaker 4: He's not as smooth as Christian, but he's a sudden player, yeah,

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Speaker 6: It will be interesting though.

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Speaker 1: We've seen the explosiveness from Parker, which is exciting that

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Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about Malik Williams coming into the game. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: It listening at this point, There's two things going on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't game plan for anything that they gave

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Speaker 3: It was still a poor performance or not they effort,

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Speaker 6: They really fooled them. So it was a.

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Speaker 3: Credit to the Packers, I mean another team. They overcame the

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Speaker 1: I think. I know the fans have some coaching concerns

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Speaker 1: when he started running like that Trevor Lawrence turnover the fumble.

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen him fumble much this year, but very

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Speaker 4: Listen this week he talked about why he hadn't fumbled,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I d and it was costly.

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Speaker 3: With this situation, My thought was a Packers, We're going

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Speaker 3: I was more impressed with what he did after this

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Speaker 4: Lookten I'm with you on that. I don't think it's

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's a fair analysis. I just have seen different

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Speaker 4: But to the average person who's watching, it's tough to

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that drive, John, because I was impressed

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Speaker 6: But Trevor threw to the open.

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Speaker 3: Guy and he on the plate to Darnis Johnson poise

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Speaker 3: It seemed like backyard stuff. I like that because you

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Speaker 3: This was him playing football. And I'm gonna tell Evan

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Speaker 4: That's a great catch.

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Speaker 3: Triple coverage. Well, it's too bad is in that moment.

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Speaker 3: You play football, and Evan loves playing football. You play

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Speaker 4: Just a quick point. No, Christian Kirk, No, Brian Thomas Jr. No,

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Speaker 6: He didn't have any of.

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Speaker 3: And I've thought for a couple of years I love

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Speaker 3: moments of this You'll.

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Speaker 1: Remember it, John, I feel like you are always the

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Speaker 1: one that says it. He operates best when he can

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Speaker 1: go to whoever's open and find a target, not feel

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Speaker 1: like he's obligated to anybody, and when they run simpler

443
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Speaker 1: plays like that they're doing the hurry up things like that.

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Speaker 1: Trevor really shines and it's I don't know if there's

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Speaker 1: a way to do it or earlier in the game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you just simplify easier said than done.

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Speaker 1: I am not a coach. Yeah, I just they do.

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Speaker 1: They look so good in those moments, and you just think,

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Speaker 1: why can not.

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Speaker 6: Some of it?

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Speaker 3: Like this, You're in a rhythm now, the game's going.

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Speaker 3: You know, you've got some dirt in your eye, so

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Speaker 3: to speak, so you're not thinking as much and you're

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Speaker 3: just playing. So I think you sit there some of that,

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Speaker 3: but you absolutely it's up to the coaches to look

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Speaker 3: at this and say, okay, well there were four or

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Speaker 3: five drives or two or three. I also thought Brian

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Speaker 3: the drive right before the touchdown drive. It gets kind

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Speaker 3: of lost when they went and get the field goal.

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Speaker 3: They had two really good drives against a really good

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Speaker 3: defense when they had to have it. You've got to

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Speaker 3: channel some of that and figure out why he's so

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Speaker 3: good in that situation.

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Speaker 1: Kay, we'll look at the game winner and then just

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Speaker 1: the pass that set things up. Obviously frustration for the defense,

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Speaker 1: you know, for us seeing that and giving up the

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Speaker 1: big play has been an issue all a year long,

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Speaker 1: and again the safety play. I think it has been

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Speaker 1: one of the major concerns Andre Cisco's that he cramped

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Speaker 1: up on that one. Looked like he wasn't necessarily the

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Speaker 1: right spot to begin with, and I don't know how

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Speaker 1: you fix it at this point. I know you would

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Speaker 1: like Andrew Winger come back, hopefully, but it's just been

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Speaker 1: whoever's in the safety spot. It seems like they're having

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Speaker 1: an issue. I don't know if that's a scheme. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what you can blame that off. The players

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Speaker 1: themselves not making plays, but just frustrating. It feels like

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Speaker 1: it's always coming down to that.

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Speaker 3: On that specific play, that was the old Houston Texans

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Speaker 3: play action where you go one way and then you

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Speaker 3: get a guy coming out.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's running one way with the flow.

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Speaker 3: The Texans with Kubiak used to run it all the

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Speaker 3: time and it's a devastating play.

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Speaker 6: They hadn't run it yet. It tricked him.

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Speaker 3: Andre said after the game he'd been cramping again with

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Speaker 3: hydration and then as soon as he tried to open

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Speaker 3: up what's gonna happen again, his legs locked I have

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Speaker 3: no reason to doubt that it looked like the play

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Speaker 3: was probably going to work regardless of that, but difficult situation.

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Speaker 6: It's uh, as I.

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Speaker 3: Wrote, safety play has been an issue even beyond that

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Speaker 3: play inconsistent and unreliable.

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Speaker 1: Say let's here, We're gonna have some hot tapes coming

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Speaker 7: Doug Trevor leads the eighty seven yard drive to tie

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Speaker 7: the game without the top three receivers going into today.

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Speaker 7: What did he kind of show you there on being

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Speaker 7: able to guide the team down obviously down his top

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Speaker 7: three receivers.

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Speaker 8: I think, I think, yeah, he did a nice job.

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Speaker 8: I give a credit to those those receivers, those tight

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Speaker 8: ends in the offensive line, that was those guys. They

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Speaker 8: made plays for him right now. He made some really

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Speaker 8: good throws and all of that. But those guys that

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Speaker 8: were playing at the end of the game, when you're

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Speaker 8: down your top three receivers and and you know you're

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Speaker 8: playing in your your twelve personnel for the rest of

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Speaker 8: the game, that's that's tough. But the guys battled their

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Speaker 8: tails off got us back to tying this football game

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Speaker 8: with a chance to you know, potentially win it there late.

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Speaker 8: So hats off for those guys.

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Speaker 1: TEG Peterson talking. I wanted to play that because I

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Speaker 1: saw this question answer on social media a lot. He's

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Speaker 1: Caroline asking about Trevor's performance in the fourth quarter and

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Speaker 1: Doug kind of not praising Trevor necessarily kind of talking

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Speaker 1: about the players around him. I think we've talked about

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Speaker 1: what Trevor was able to do on the drive, very impressive.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really take it that way. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you guys did, but or if it's just getting

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Speaker 1: a little network at this.

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Speaker 3: Point, had he come out and praised Trevor, he'd have

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Speaker 3: been criticized for praising him at Tree fumbled, So I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't take it anyway until I started reading other

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Speaker 3: people taking it that way.

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Speaker 6: So I didn't feel that one right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I shall hear it either, So I just I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to play that out and see what everybody's.

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Speaker 6: Thoughts on it were.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do some hot takes here, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Firehouse Subs. Brian, What is your hot take? Because

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Speaker 1: I know it is about Truh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Trevor took a step forward, you know. I know

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Speaker 4: he had the interception, but then he scored ten points

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Speaker 4: and got them within a field goal at the end

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Speaker 4: of the first half, and then in the third quarter

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Speaker 4: he has the fumble and comes back and ties the

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Speaker 4: game with two minutes left to play. I love the

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Speaker 4: emotion after the touchdown. I want to see a little

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Speaker 4: of that from him that I hate to lose. I

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Speaker 4: hadn't seen enough of it. I think he's too chill,

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Speaker 4: in my opinion, too often on the sideline.

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Speaker 6: And where the ones are supposed to be chilled. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: well you are.

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Speaker 4: No one's ever called me that. But then the play

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Speaker 4: that I loved the most was the fourth down conversion

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Speaker 4: where he wouldn't be stopped and I hadn't seen that

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Speaker 4: from him. We've been told over and over that's not

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Speaker 4: what he does. We don't like to do this. The

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Speaker 4: quarterback sneak with him. It's just not his thing. He

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Speaker 4: did it with authority, and that was when I thought,

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Speaker 4: this is a good game for Trevor despite the mistakes.

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Speaker 4: I get it, he's not gonna be perfect, but he's

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Speaker 4: a young quarterback still. You look at Jordan Love, right,

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Speaker 4: he's in his fifth season. He sat on the bench

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Speaker 4: for three years. Trevor didn't have that. We're starting to

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Speaker 4: see some signs from Trevor the last couple of weeks

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Speaker 4: that are really good, really positive. Sadly, there's injuries and

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Speaker 4: the season seems lost, but I like what it's all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I went with such a shame or what a shame,

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Speaker 3: sort of playing into Trevor a little bit as well,

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Speaker 3: a what a shame the season has turned out this way,

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Speaker 3: but specific to yesterday, What a shame that the Evan

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Speaker 3: Ingram play that last drive. It should have been something

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Speaker 3: with a season like this, it's not gonna go into

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Speaker 3: Jaguars loar. But you're playing without Christian Kirk, without Brian

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Speaker 3: Tom I mean out Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 6: Without Gave Davis or Daniell.

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Speaker 3: All this stuff. This was sort of, you know, mythical stuff.

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Speaker 3: If you can be mythical three and five, right, So

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Speaker 3: it was a shame that they didn't get to close

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Speaker 3: that out because I really thought the comeback, the grit.

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Speaker 3: You came back twice from ten point deficits, that felt

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Speaker 3: like something to build on. Unfortunately, to me, it feels

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Speaker 3: like we we're talking about during a break. It feels

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Speaker 3: like one of the late rounds of a boxing match.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they can come back from this.

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Speaker 4: I hope they can, but listen, we have to see

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Speaker 4: some signs of that beaure. That's all we can put

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Speaker 4: our hat on this year. You've got to have something

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Speaker 4: that you can go forward with. It's much much more

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Speaker 4: beneficial for this team to have that then to say, well,

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Speaker 4: I don't know whether we've got our guy. I think

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Speaker 4: yesterday you found out you do.

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Speaker 6: I felt like it.

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Speaker 1: And the way he continues through the season I think

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Speaker 1: will be important to mine is similar similar John that

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Speaker 1: said it was a good run, maybe the last stand.

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Speaker 1: I know, John, we were kind of talking about this

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Speaker 1: in the earlier in the show. It's felt like they

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Speaker 1: were going on It felt like they felt this was

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Speaker 1: their last stand as well, and unfortunately they didn't come

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Speaker 1: out with the win. And that kind of is gonna

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Speaker 1: affect the rest of your season because as well as

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Speaker 1: you play going forward, you know, we've seen them run

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Speaker 1: the table obviously make the playoffs before, but it just

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Speaker 1: doesn't have that feel right now, and it's I would

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Speaker 1: love to be wrong, I hope I am, but we

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Speaker 1: haven't seen that from them. So for me, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be seeing the character of your team, seeing what you

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Speaker 1: have here that you want to keep and work with

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Speaker 1: going forward, and seeing what doesn't work, and affecting that

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Speaker 1: change in the off season, because clearly the way things

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Speaker 1: are operating right right now is not the way that

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Speaker 1: they need to operate if they want to win. So

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Speaker 1: stay with us here. We've got a whole week. We

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Speaker 1: are not giving up on.

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Speaker 6: You, guys.

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Speaker 4: We will be here for sure.

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Speaker 9: One of the best teammates I've ever had, never been around,

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Speaker 9: one of the smartest players I've been around, and then

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Speaker 9: you know, one of the greatest best leaders I've been around.

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Speaker 4: Uh you saw him cut up.

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Speaker 9: The day too. He was rolling, he was getting going,

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Speaker 9: and it's just just a very unfortunate uh event.

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Speaker 6: God.

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Speaker 9: You know, God doesn't make mistakes. There's a plan, as

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Speaker 9: Will is better than any any of ours can imagine.

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Speaker 9: So he'll be just for me.

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Speaker 1: It's even ingram talking about Christian Kirk, his leadership on

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Speaker 1: the team, what he's able to do on the field

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Speaker 1: as well. Looks like he's gonna be out for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the season as a broken collarbone via reports. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we'll get that officially confirmed when Doug Peterson talks later today.

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Speaker 1: But this gives opportunity. Let's look on the positive side

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Speaker 1: here without you know, we have seen several key injuries

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Speaker 1: on offense. Who are you looking at maybe can step

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Speaker 1: up big one.

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Speaker 4: Well, we talked about Parker Washington being a guy I

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Speaker 4: I fact I asked him this week in the locker

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Speaker 4: the confidence that he was ready for a bigger role

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Speaker 4: in the offense, and he mentioned the fact that it

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Speaker 4: was tough for them to find room for him with

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Speaker 4: Christian Kirk. Well, it just so happens now they're going

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Speaker 4: to need to I think he's ready to step up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's flashed enough to give you hope.

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Speaker 3: He's had over the course of his career four or

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Speaker 3: five plays that have been nice catches, moments, the quickness

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Speaker 3: he talked about Brian. He's a guy that they think

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Speaker 3: can be a good player for him and a productive player,

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be his time.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on things. We'll hear from Doug

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Speaker 1: Peterson later today so we can update on those injuries,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be back with you on Wednesday here on

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Speaker 1: Jack bad