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Speaker 1: He was one of like seventeen five star rated players

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Speaker 1: that Texas A and M signed in that last class

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Speaker 1: class before last that left. And that's a five star

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Speaker 1: caliber receiver. Now he still has to live up to

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Speaker 1: the potential, live to see. And they got Trey Harris

430
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Speaker 1: who's a four star receiver out of Louisiana Tech. And

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Speaker 1: if you think about the Southern equivalent of what UCLA

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Speaker 1: is doing, it's Ole Miss. Ole Miss is sitting in

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Speaker 1: a situation right now. Lane Kiff has been very vocal

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Speaker 1: about it. He's been more vocal than Chip Kelly has.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing more talking about chip Kelly than Chip Kelly is.

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin has said it's very frustrating for them to

437
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Speaker 1: try and recruit heads up in traditional high school recruiting

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Speaker 1: in the portal era or the in the nil era,

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Speaker 1: because the relationships don't seem to matter as much. It's

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Speaker 1: just about you know, who comes in with the biggest

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Speaker 1: bag at the eleventh hour. Well, they've adjusted, and so

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Speaker 1: now he is going about things in a strikingly similar

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Speaker 1: not your last shot. And frankly, after they get in college,

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Speaker 1: you know more about him. You got far more dependable

447
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Speaker 1: may not have the same priority structure in deciding where

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Speaker 1: they're going to transfer to as they did when they

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Speaker 1: were deciding where they're going to commit to. So all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, maybe what olemiss lacks on National signing

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Speaker 1: Day they're making up for by a land in top

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Speaker 1: ten portal classes. What about Oregon? You know, Oregon out

454
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Speaker 1: on the west coast is a really really interesting story.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Birch was one of the biggest signings in South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Football in a long time, and he never quite lived

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Speaker 1: up to the billing on the field that they wanted

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Speaker 1: out of the five star edge guy there. But then

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Speaker 1: when you talk to some folks, they say, yet, no,

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Speaker 1: he has not. He's been very inconsistent. But we still

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Speaker 1: think his best football is ahead of him. Now, you

462
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Speaker 1: hear that all the time. So players they say that

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Speaker 1: about are a dime a dozen, but sometimes they're right

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Speaker 1: about it. Well, Jordan Birch is at Oregon. Now keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on that. Also, that's a defensive room that's

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468
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Speaker 1: are only three teams in the top ten right now

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Speaker 1: in the recruiting rankings and the portal rankings for this cycle.

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Speaker 1: One of them is LSU, one of them's Oklahoma, and

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Speaker 1: this is the third one, the Oregon Ducks. They're not

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Speaker 1: far away. Mario Christbaul left a pretty full covered out there.

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Speaker 1: fears in the minds of an Oregon fan have been

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Speaker 1: alleviated because talent acquisition hasn't fallen off. They still recruit

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Speaker 1: very well they are hammering the portal very hard. And

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Speaker 1: Oregon opens week two at Texas Tech, got Hawaii, got Colorado,

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Speaker 1: and then they got a bye week before they go

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Speaker 1: to Washington. At that Oregon State loss and that Washington

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Speaker 1: loss last year, it's stung. It should sting. It absolutely

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Speaker 1: should sting. So that's yet another team in this world

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Speaker 1: where people tell you Pack twelve can't win a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve can't even go to the playoff conferences, don't

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Speaker 1: it'll be because of several players we just talked about.

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Speaker 1: softball season's coming up. I got a bunch of equipment

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Speaker 1: we appreciate them. Onward, we march in this show tonight

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Speaker 1: after a sip from the chalice, of course, three of

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Speaker 1: which are on the line for the top three finishers

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Speaker 1: in our Pate State Bracket Challenge. And some of you

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Speaker 1: have already given up, even after the upsets and the

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Speaker 1: dust clears from earlier today. But don't lose faith. But

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Speaker 1: and its class lists. It's unethical, but I plan on

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Speaker 1: winning one. Okay, Colin, do we have this question? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Look at this, I mean, Dubs hit us up. Strangely,

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Speaker 1: his handle is Dub's noseball. Let's see how well Dubs

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Speaker 1: noseball his question, why do we widely accept the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten as the second best conference and comparable to the SEC?

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Speaker 1: The conference has won one playoff game since twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: and is mediocre outside of Ohio State and Michigan. Even

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Speaker 1: if they are number two. The gap between the SEC

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Speaker 1: and the Big Ten is much smaller than the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten and the rest of the field from New York City.

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Speaker 1: Like I said before, I feel that the connection between

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Speaker 1: myself and you guys is such that I can speak

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Speaker 1: to you like I'm about to have to speak to Doubs.

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Speaker 1: And I'm even going to use a phrase I don't

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Speaker 1: believe in. Not only is the Big Ten the second

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Speaker 1: best conference in America, here comes the dirty phrase, It's

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Speaker 1: not even close. And we're gonna take that phrase and

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Speaker 1: put it right back in retirement, because ninety nine point

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Speaker 1: nine times out of one hundred when someone says it,

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Speaker 1: whatever they're talking about is pretty close. I don't think

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Speaker 1: this is close. Let's just break this down, you and

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Speaker 1: I for a second. I'm not asking you to wave

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Speaker 1: a Big Ten palm palm, not asking you to do that.

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Speaker 1: I am asking you to think logically, Dubs and the

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Speaker 1: rest of you think logically for just a second. The

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Speaker 1: Big Ten's won one playoff game, he says, since twenty sixteen. Accurate,

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Speaker 1: very selective there, going only back to twenty sixteen. It

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Speaker 1: probably has something to do with the fact that Ohio

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Speaker 1: State won the national title the year before. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm not even gonna use that as part

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Speaker 1: of my argument. Is let's take it as it was

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Speaker 1: presented to us from twenty sixteen through present day. Dubbs

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Speaker 1: says the O Well, the Big Ten in general is overrated.

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Speaker 1: They are not automatically the number two conference in college football,

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Speaker 1: or even if they are, it's just it's just inches

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Speaker 1: separating them and whoever's behind them. Because the Big Ten's

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Speaker 1: only won one playoff game since twenty sixteen, and that

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Speaker 1: was Ohio State, by the way, for those keeping track

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. I don't think that's a good argument.

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Speaker 1: You know how I feel about the playoffs, but forget

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Speaker 1: about my feelings. Even if that is a good argument,

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Speaker 1: who's done better? Clemson, not the ACC. Clemson is the

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Speaker 1: only program that's done better. Because if you're talking about conferences,

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Speaker 1: you've got other than the SEC. Let me tell you

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Speaker 1: how many playoff wins there have been for other conferences.

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Speaker 1: The ACC is six and five playoff games, and I

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Speaker 1: kid you not all six of them are Clemson. They

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Speaker 1: might as well be Notre Dame. They might as well

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Speaker 1: just be an independent. But the Big twelve, they've got one.

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Speaker 1: They've got one win in the playoff era and that

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Speaker 1: was TCU about five minutes ago. The Big Ten in

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Speaker 1: the playoff era has got three wins, the Pac twelve

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Speaker 1: has one, and the SEC's got sixteen. So yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a wide gap. If you want to go by this metric,

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Speaker 1: there's a pretty wide gap between the SEC and the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten. But let me tell you something, especially in

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Speaker 1: present day, there is very much a pretty sizable gap

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Speaker 1: between the Big Ten and whomstaff number three is. I'll

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Speaker 1: put it to you like this, and I'll go back

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Speaker 1: to the question. The question was, why do we just

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Speaker 1: assume that the Big Ten is number two outside of

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Speaker 1: Ohio State and Michigan. He said, it's a mediocre conference.

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Speaker 1: No it's not. I throw Penn State in there. But

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Speaker 1: even if you're right about that, you want to do

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Speaker 1: me a favor. Since we're talking comparatively and not in

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Speaker 1: a vacuum, you want to do me a favor right quick.

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Speaker 1: Anybody can do this. You want to venture across the

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Speaker 1: rest of the country. PAC twelve, Big twelve, ACC, What

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Speaker 1: have you do me a favor? Pick a conference, Remove

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Speaker 1: the two best programs in there, and tell me what

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Speaker 1: you find. Remove Oklahoma and well it should be Texas,

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Speaker 1: but Oklahoma. We're gonna remove OU in Texas in the second.

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Speaker 1: So remove like TCU in Kansas State from last year

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Speaker 1: from the Big twelve. What you got? Remove Utah and

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Speaker 1: USC last year from the PAC twelve. Well you have

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Speaker 1: you got two fairly good programs up there in Oregon

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Speaker 1: and Washington. I would argue you've also got more than

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Speaker 1: two good programs in the Big ten. But where else

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Speaker 1: are we finding it? I don't even think we need

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Speaker 1: to dive into the landfill that has been ACC football

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Speaker 1: outside of Clemson over the past few years. Rooting for you,

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Speaker 1: Florida State clinch fist, rooting for you. No one's got anything.

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Speaker 1: Here's what you have to do, though. You have to

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Speaker 1: understand the difference, or you have to understand rather that

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Speaker 1: there are tiers in this sport. And right now, the

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Speaker 1: phraseology of this question, and you know how rarely I

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Speaker 1: use that word, but The phraseology of this question is

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Speaker 1: perpetuating this kind of narrative that I hear a lot.

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Speaker 1: You're either playoff contender or you're trash, and that's not true.

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Speaker 1: Someone's got to be the thirty fourth best team in

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Speaker 1: the country. Like Minnesota hangs out in that territory. Iowa

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Speaker 1: most years would be hanging out in that territory, Wisconsin

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Speaker 1: in many years hangs out in that territory. Michigan State

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Speaker 1: in most years hangs out in that territory. There is

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Speaker 1: a glob of Big Ten teams that would populate that

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Speaker 1: thirty through fifty range. That is not mediocrity if you

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Speaker 1: consider how the rest of the sport is tiered. When

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Speaker 1: you get below the top layer in those conferences, the

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Speaker 1: Big ten's a very quality conference. And also, since when

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Speaker 1: did we dismiss the top two other than Ohio State

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Speaker 1: and Michigan Yeah, well, it's very convenient that you want

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Speaker 1: to go other than two of the top four or

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Speaker 1: five programs in college football right now, and Penn State,

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00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: even the biggest detractor of the Nitney Lions has to

638
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: understand program caliber. Top fifteen easily, I would argue top ten.

639
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: So that's a really good conference. They're not the SEC,

640
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: but there's no one else out there like them. And

641
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: also this is future forward thinking. But I would encourage

642
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: you to pay attention to what just happened in Lincoln,

643
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: Nebraska and Madison, Wisconsin. And you may think to yourself,

644
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: who cares? They were terrible last year? In fact, didn't

645
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: they both fire their coaches? That's the point. It's not

646
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: that they fired their coaches, it's who they hired. You

647
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: ever seen Nebraska be that aggressive in hiring a head coach.

648
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: They went and got Matt Ruhle. You ever seen Wisconsin

649
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: be that proactive? They fired Paul christ early in the

650
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: season and went and got Luke Fickele, who was the

651
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: single hottest commodity on the G five market. Everyone was convinced,

652
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: unless Ohio State comes open, he'll probably just just hang

653
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: tied at Cincinnati. They got him at Wisconsin. You know

654
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: what that's indicative of. It's indicative of a conference that

655
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: just signed a bazillion dollar media rights deal and member

656
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: institutions understanding amongst themselves, mediocrity's not good enough, you know,

657
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: having these coaches that are also ran and these caliber

658
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: programs that are also it's not good enough. Anymore. Because

659
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: I will grant you this, if you've looked at the

660
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: content calendar that the Big Ten has presented, it is

661
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: true if Ohio State or Michigan or Penn State haven't

662
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: been involved in the game, especially the last year, it

663
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: wasn't must see TV. And there's no excuse for that.

664
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: There's no excuse for you know, your Nebraska's in Wisconsin's

665
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: or Iowa was not living up to or mission in

666
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: state last year, not living up to a higher standard.

667
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: I think they understand that up there. That is why

668
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: I think change will eventually come in Iowa. You see,

669
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: cause Kirk Farence and the way they do things at

670
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: Iowa once upon a time was good enough. I think

671
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: the standard has elevated in the Big Ten because the

672
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: money has elevated in the Big Ten. And as much

673
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,479
Speaker 1: as I bemoan a lot of what these new media

674
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: rights deals have brought with them, one of the beneficiaries

675
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: may be that overall, your athletic department just feels the

676
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: need to hold itself to a higher standard to reciprocate

677
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: the billions of dollars collectively that they are being given

678
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: from a network or in this case networks, and understanding that.

679
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: Hey man, this era where you're incentivizing your offensive coordinators

680
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: to score twenty five points a game. True story, by

681
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: the way, not good enough anymore. So. Not only is

682
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: the Big Ten the second best conference in college football,

683
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: I think there is a solid reason to believe they

684
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: will be strengthening their position, not weakening any time soon.

685
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Big Ten, they're watching us in an

686
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: arbor Michigan, Stark, Florida, and Eden, New York. Thank you

687
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: guys so much. It's time to bring the mood tracker back,

688
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: the mood tracker, and Colin, this is not the end

689
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: point yet. I have to explain what the mood tracker is.

690
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: The mood tracker is very simple. It's something we do

691
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: several times a year. It's just something where we want

692
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: we want to cut the fan base open figuratively and

693
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: just feel them out. Don't care what anyone else is

694
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: saying about your program in this particular moment. I'm interested

695
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: what the fan base themselves are thinking about their program.

696
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: We remove the fringe minority on either side of the aisle,

697
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: and we just we take the middle seventy five or

698
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: eighty percent. Oklahoma mood Tracker, where's the where's the mind

699
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: at right now amongst Oklahoma fans? Now, remember what happened

700
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: last year and what happened last year and what could

701
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: happen this year? Is what makes this easily one of

702
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: the top five most intriguing programs going into twenty twenty three.

703
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: I think Texas down the road is in the same boat.

704
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State maybe too. Brent Venables comes in last year

705
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: after that bombshell announcement Lincoln Riley's leaving out of nowhere

706
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: and he's going to LSU. No, he's going to USC

707
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: what So that was one of the biggest stories in

708
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: recent memory in college football and Oklahoma. They were kind

709
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: of devastated. It was out of the left field. It

710
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: was a gut punch, but they regrouped. They didn't have

711
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: a ton of drama around their coaching search. They dusted

712
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: themselves off. They said, all right, Brent, you're next, and

713
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: they hired Brent Venables and they fell flat on their face.

714
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: They were a six win team in year one, did

715
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: go to a bowl game, lost the bowl game. So

716
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: what did outsiders start saying, Well, if you're one of them,

717
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: you probably participated in saying, uh, oh, hired the wrong guy. Uh, oh,

718
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's fallen off. Oh, they certainly won't be ready for

719
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: the SEC. They're not even ready for the Big twelve.

720
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: There was a big lie though, that was told, and

721
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: the lit I just went full British under The lie

722
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: was the at Oklahoma was still loaded no matter who

723
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: the coach was, and that they were just going to

724
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: seamlessly transition. And it was a lie. It was not reality.

725
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: It was a lazy take if you just looked at

726
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: recruiting rankings and didn't understand when Lincoln Riley walked out

727
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: the door and his offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator walked

728
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: out the door. Let me tell you what else. They

729
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: took QB one, QB two, running back one, four of

730
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: the top five pass catchers, tight end one, tight end two.

731
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: Two starting offensive linemen in a backup. Some of them

732
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: went with him, some of them just transferred elsewhere, and

733
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: some of them graduated. That was not a loaded team. Now,

734
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: it wasn't a poor man's roster, it wasn't a poverty roster,

735
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: but it was not a loaded team. I think the

736
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: most troubling aspect, if you want to throw stones at

737
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: Brent and Venables in year one, is offense isn't once

738
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: struggled nearly as much as defense is what struggled. And

739
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: that's the name of his game. So the defensive stats

740
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 1: were bad. They were ninety ninth in points per game allowed.

741
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: Last year. They were in the one hundreds in rush

742
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: yards per game allowed, pass yards per game allowed, total

743
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: yards per game allowed. No point. Oh okay. So with

744
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: that being the context, I'll tell you what the mood

745
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: is amongst Oklahoma fans, and it is very simply clear.

746
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: The mechanism. I go to this one every now and then.

747
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: It is from the movie For Love of the Game,

748
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: which ironically is about baseball, but it's it's what Kevin

749
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: Costner tells himself on the mound or Billy Chapel, if

750
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: you will. He's on the mound pitching in Yankee Stadium,

751
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: I think. And so you got you got forty five

752
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: fifty thousand folks and they're screaming at you because you're

753
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: a Detroit Tiger. So you're on the road, and you've

754
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: got drama off the field and your personal life, and

755
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: it's all going through his head. And you've got you've

756
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: got detractors from every angle, and you got media and

757
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: press coming at you from every angle, and you are

758
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: on that mound. No one else. You're on that mound,

759
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: and you're facing one of the best hitters on the planet,

760
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: and he is sixty feet six inches away from you.

761
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: I believe, and he said, is clear the mechanism, And

762
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the noise just goes, Oh, that's

763
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: what the best in the world can do. It's what

764
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: Oklahoma needs to be able to do. The noise is

765
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: irrelevant as long as you can make it irrelevant. No

766
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: one outside Norman, Oklahoma matters. No one's opinion outside Norman,

767
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: Oklahoma matters. And the reality is, despite how disastrous last

768
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: year was, people closest to the program, they know what

769
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: I just said. They know how much talent was drained

770
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: from that roster. They know how atypical the talent drain

771
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: was and the circumstances were. And they know while last

772
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: year's result was totally unacceptable, they also think a few

773
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: other things. They think they've got the right guy. They

774
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: endorsed Brent Vnable's coming in. They understand there's not a

775
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: catastrophic failure of culture. There. There is no NCAA cloud

776
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: looming over the program. They've gotten They've got no scandal

777
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: ridden program or anything like that. They've just got some

778
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: things to fix. And so what they have to do

779
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: is clear the mechanism, black out the outsiders, and kind

780
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: of circle the wagons a little bit and fix them.

781
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: Fan bases can be part of that, cause positive energy

782
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: can be part of that. I think that's where their

783
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: mind's at now. An outsider may look at Oklahoma if

784
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: you didn't know any better, you're just like a you're

785
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: a pit fan, and you watch the program from a distance.

786
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: You saw six and seven and you probably think, boy,

787
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: I bet their second guessing themselves. I don't really think

788
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: most of them are. I think they're very aggravated about

789
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: what happened last year. But if you got to take

790
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: one step back, where is to take five steps forward?

791
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: So be it. Here's why I rest a little easier

792
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: at night thinking about the future of Oklahoma. Talent's gonna

793
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: be there more so than it was last year. Talent's

794
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 1: going to be there. They have recruited top ten They've

795
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: recruited top eight portal classes and top eight recruiting classes

796
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: the two cycles Venables has been there. That includes signing

797
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: one of the very best quarterbacks in a Marria in

798
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: Jackson Arnold. So they'll be fine there. Now if they

799
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: don't succeed, which is still a possibility, then they don't succeed.

800
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: But that'll just mean flat out Brenton Vinnables was the

801
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: wrong higher and you etch a sketch left to right,

802
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: just started over clean slate. It won't be because they

803
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: weren't able to get the players. That's the biggest fear.

804
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: You can't get the players. Well, they've gotten the players

805
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: and are getting the players now. You just got to

806
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: make the players do what they're supposed to do. But

807
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: the first time since nineteen ninety eight being under five hundred,

808
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: the first time so this millennium, last time they were

809
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: under five hundred, people weren't even talking about y two

810
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: k yet. So you can either think that's a new

811
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: trend or think that what this piece of paper says

812
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: is more likely in that is it's a blip on

813
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: the radar screen. I look, I just skimmed over having

814
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: Jackson Arnold there. Having a quarterback that can be the

815
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: future face of your franchise like it is in the NFL,

816
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: is also a game changer in college football. We got

817
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: to see that dude actually we're showing footage right now

818
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: from ELID eleven out in LA where we'll be headed

819
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: again in a few months. And I think they're going

820
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: to be okay. More importantly, since this is about OU fans,

821
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: they think they're going to be okay. Clear the mechanism.

822
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: Clear it great movie, very underrated baseball movie, very underrated

823
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: sports movie. For love of the Game. And since so

824
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: many of you watched the words upon my recommendation, more

825
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: so than some of my coworkers will, maybe you need

826
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: to go watch for Love of the Game. Oh boy,

827
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: it's time. It's that time of the show. We're a

828
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: little ways into it now. You know. I see our

829
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: audience retention metrics and they are crazy. The average viewer

830
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: watches our show about twenty eight minutes right now, so

831
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: we're about forty three minutes into the show. So some

832
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: of the casuals have dipped. No, casuals, don't listen to

833
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: this show. But if you've got stuff to do, you've

834
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: got stuff to do. But you know, we especially in

835
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: this time of year, we don't call it the off season,

836
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: but we can be a little looser in what we

837
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: talk about. I wanted to show you a question here

838
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: John hit us up, longtime listener, first time caller from Marietta, Georgia.

839
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: My question is who does management think he is. I'll

840
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: hang up and listen. There's a little play there on

841
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: what the typical first time caller on radio sounds like.

842
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: January thirtieth, John, January thirtieth was one of the darkest

843
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: days in the history of this office. I told you

844
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: what happened, but I'll tell you once more. Briefly. They

845
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: got us a ping pong table. I take immense pride

846
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: in how I perform. That is my battlefield within the office.

847
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: And then there's another figurative battlefield that people like us,

848
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: me and you, John have fought forever against people like them,

849
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: and by them, I mean management. And I lost on

850
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: January thirtieth, the year of or Lord, twenty twenty three,

851
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: for the first time in my life, I lost a

852
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: ping pong match to management, fair and square, can't even

853
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: put an asterisk next to it. And it was disappointing

854
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: for me. But what crushed me is I knew I

855
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: let people down. I let everyone down who had ever

856
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: found themselves trapped under the silver thumb of management. You

857
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: can't do anything about it. In most cases, but I

858
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: can and I can face our superiors and athletic competition.

859
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: And I failed. And the very next week I came

860
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: on this show and I admitted it to you. But

861
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: I also came on this show the week after I

862
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: lost that pong match to Management, and I made you

863
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: a promise. And if you don't remember it, that's fine,

864
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: because Collin's got it. Right now, I'm telling you this,

865
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: I will not lose to management again. It's not gonna happen.

866
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: I got the wake up call I needed, so you

867
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: can lay whatever odds you need to. The days of

868
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: management honoring himself around this office when it comes to

869
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: ping pong are over since that day. Entering this week,

870
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: I was thirty three and oh against management. But that

871
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough. It wasn't good enough because what management

872
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: couldn't do with his paddle, he chose to do with

873
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: his fifty two dollars pen, and not just with the

874
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: power of the pen, but with the power of the

875
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: cover of darkness. They waited until I went out of town,

876
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: as I told you a couple of weeks ago, and

877
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: they formatted a tournament typical management tactic. They formatted a

878
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: tournament to determine the champion of the office, and they

879
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: didn't see it the right way, and I took great

880
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: umbrage with it. You also know how rarely I used

881
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: that term, but it happened anyway. There was one flaw

882
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: on management's plan. They didn't determine when preliminary matches were held.

883
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: So your boy came back from Indianapolis covering the NFL

884
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: combine find out I've been blindsided by treachery. Say that's okay.

885
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: And I sat in the corner and I waited, and

886
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: I waited and I waited, and everyone else got their

887
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: preliminary match out of the way, and I went last.

888
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: And since ethics had been thrown out the window long

889
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: before that point, I not only went to and Oh

890
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: against HR like I needed to do, but I allowed

891
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 1: HR to score between twenty eight and thirty three combined

892
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: points against me, which locked up the sixth seed. Why

893
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: did I need the sixth seed? Friends, Why did I

894
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: shave points to get the sixth seed? Because that drew

895
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: me management in the Elite eight And that date was

896
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: approaching and management could do nothing about it. And finally

897
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: it arrived, and it was two days ago. It was

898
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: March fourteenth, and he couldn't hide any longer. And not

899
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: only was it glorious, one of our employees happened to

900
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: be rolling on it. Colin. Can we see that beautiful footage? Now?

901
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: I will say this. He trained diligently for it, even

902
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: tried to wear a white T shirt to throw me off,

903
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: but to no avail. First game smoked him. Second game

904
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: we go into overtime. But it wasn't enough to beat him.

905
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: You got to take management down, put him on the ground.

906
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: It's not enough to win by points. You want the knockout.

907
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: And then one of our viewers, with the cherry on top,

908
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: delivered this, they don't play that sport at the country club.

909
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 1: I guarantee you they don't play that at the country club.

910
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 1: When you're put on equal footing, people like them will

911
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: never beat people like us. John. And so the moral

912
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: of the story is, on January thirtieth, I promised you

913
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: I will not lose to management again. And today it

914
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: is March sixteenth, and I'm thirty nine and oh against

915
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: management since that point. So who does management think he is?

916
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter who he thinks he is, because

917
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: we know who management is. Let's move on. Recruiting. It's

918
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: an integral part of this sport, isn't it. Jack has

919
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: a very interesting question about recruiting here from Birmingham, Alabama.

920
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: Think about this. I think some of you may be

921
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: in the same boat. Jack asked as a fan. Is

922
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: it possible not to take any interest in recruiting without

923
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: being billed as a casual? Now, Jack, I am never

924
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: going to assume you're a cash well just because you

925
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: don't follow recruiting. So here's how I'll put it to you.

926
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: I remember when I played high school baseball when I

927
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: was a freshman, and they gave us our itinerary. Mark

928
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: Gilreth was the head coach at Harris County at that time.

929
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: He gave us our itinerary. He didn't even know our names.

930
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: We were just freshmen. And I looked at our calendar

931
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: and it said in December there were voluntary conditioning periods.

932
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: I was dumb enough to think it was actually voluntary.

933
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: I didn't know any better, and so I quickly came

934
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: to find out what voluntary meant. Jack, Here's what I'll

935
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: tell you. Following recruiting is voluntary, but it is highly

936
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: recommended and it can be very very fun if you

937
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: understand how to properly interpret recruiting. Now, I'm not into

938
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: making the whole NFL to college football comparison, but I

939
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: will say this, I don't know many folks who follow

940
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: the NFL game religiously who don't follow the NFL draft

941
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: because they are one and the same. They're just two

942
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: different spectacles. But you can't have one without the other.

943
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: You can't fully understand your roster, or you can't fully

944
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: understand the story of a team or the players on

945
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: that team without having followed the draft. Well, in college football,

946
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: I've always said the same thing. Yeah, you could watch

947
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: Texas versus Oklahoma, you can watch Michigan Ohio State, you

948
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: watch Auburn versus Alabama, and it may be very entertaining

949
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: for you. But if you want to be a more

950
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: diehard fan, if you want to understand the full context

951
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 1: of it and the beauty, the beauty that is interwoven

952
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: into the tapestry of those games, boy, it really helps

953
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: to know that not only did that four star wide

954
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: receiver from Montgomery, Alabama, just score a go ahead touchdown

955
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: in the Iron Bowl, but he was once committed to

956
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: Auburn and then flipped to Alabama. Forty eight hours before

957
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: National Signing Day, Steve Woolfong broke the news. Yeah, that

958
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden rings the bell a little bit differently.

959
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: I also think that recruiting is more fun to follow

960
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: than the draft process, and it's a totally different animal

961
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: than the NFL Draft. You got to understand now, in college,

962
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: they don't pick the player, the player picks them. So

963
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: there's this immense amount of pride when a kid who

964
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: has options to go wherever he wants to go chooses

965
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: to be a Miami Hurricane. Miami does not get to

966
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: choose the five star out of Douglasville, Georgia with the

967
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: ninth pick in the twenty twenty three college football draft.

968
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: That's not the way it works. And then what you

969
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: also come to find is those kids that are picking

970
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: between Florida State and Miami turn it into a competition

971
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: between the exact same schools that you have grown accustomed

972
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: to watching do battle on the field on Saturdays, and

973
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: the way that you get jacked up to watch a

974
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: big USC Oregon game on Saturdays. What you may not

975
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: know if you don't follow recruiting, is there are kids

976
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: in that stadium on that very afternoon watching that very

977
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: game that are set to decide whether they're going to

978
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: go to Oregon or USC three weeks from now it's

979
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: an official visit. Is it a weekend in Eugene or LA.

980
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Some of the best stories in college football

981
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: don't even happen on Saturdays. They happen in recruiting. Like

982
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys who have made millions

983
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 1: of dollars in this business as assistant coaches who would

984
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: tell you themselves are average at best on the grease board.

985
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: They're average at best when it comes to game planning,

986
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: and when it comes to the intricacies of coaching their position.

987
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: They're just good enough to stay on a staff because

988
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 1: what their real contribution is is landing talent. They may

989
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: be a decent cook, but they are phenomenal at going

990
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: and getting the right ingredients. That doesn't necessarily exist in

991
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. You don't really have to do that because

992
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: of the way that the draft destruction in college football

993
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: totally different ballgames. So no, you don't have to follow recruiting.

994
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why you wouldn't, though, And that's all

995
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: I have to say about that. In words of Forest

996
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: conn All, right. I appreciate you guys watching. We will

997
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: be back here Sunday night. We will be live. Why

998
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: why not? It's what I ask Until then, for producer Jesse,

999
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: for director Colin, I'm Josh, babe. Take care of a

1000
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 1: great start to your weekend, and God bless