1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: All right, this was a real surprise. We'll tell you 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: all about it in a minute. Good morning on Super Sunday. 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: Right here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: Indy Fermana. We are broadcasting live from the ti rack 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Ty rack dot com. We'll help you 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: get there and on match selection fans, free shipping. Free 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: road has a protection at over ten thousand recommended installers 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: tie rack dot com. The way tire buying should be, 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: the way football should be played, talked, coached, written, Everything 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: you want to know about football. Here's the man, Bucket Brooks. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: How are you, buck? 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: I'm good man. How are you doing? 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 4: How come you are not at the Super Bowl? 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: Of all people, on the face of God's green earth, 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: you should be at the Super Bowl. 17 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 4: Why aren't you there? 18 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 5: Because I'm doing studio work for NFL Network in Laa. 19 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 4: All right there, Oh that's perfect. 20 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: I get it now, because I figure if anybody should 21 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 2: be at the Super bullets you and I'm gonna run 22 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: this by you. And maybe it's just me. I just 23 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: had a feeling this week. It wasn't the hype that 24 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: I normally felt going into a Super Bowl. Maybe because 25 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: these two teams met two years ago. I don't know, 26 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: Maybe because the hatred towards Kansas City. I don't know 27 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: what it is, but the hype to me was not 28 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: as hyper as it usually is. 29 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think maybe for Kansas City, maybe 30 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 5: there's some fatigue because you've seen them five times in 31 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 5: six years, so everyone kind of knows. Whatever stories that 32 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 5: you normally uncover super Bowl time, we've already uncovered those stories, 33 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 5: like the last five times they've been there for the Phild, 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 5: the for Eagles, because they were there so recently, the 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 5: only new story is kind of like Sakwon Barkley, the 36 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,639 Speaker 5: new coordinators and those things. I think that's the difference 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 5: to familiarity because these teams were on this stage a 38 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 5: couple of years ago. I do feel like there's this, 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 5: I won't say this, this this old or boying feel 40 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: to it, but it's kind of like the same old 41 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 5: hat like just another story. 42 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: You're right, I got the same feeling as well. Now. 43 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: I don't remember what teams you and I discussed way 44 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: back in July or August of who might meet in 45 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, But are you surprised with these two teams. 46 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: I don't recall did you pick either one of these 47 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: two teams to be in the Super Bowl? 48 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: No, I mean it was so longer, who knows, I 49 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 3: can't remember. 50 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 5: I would just say that I am not surprised that 51 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 5: both teams are in the Super Bowl. I would say 52 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 5: the can cit the Chiefs because coming off back to backs, 53 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 5: they've kind of mastered the art of winning, and that 54 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 5: always makes them a formidable foe. They didn't have like 55 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 5: serious or significant injuries, which gave them a chance to 56 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 5: defend their back. 57 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: To back titles. 58 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 5: The Philadelphia Eagles were one of the most talented teams 59 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 5: in the league. Them in Baltimore Detroit. You kind of 60 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 5: felt like those teams were good enough to put themselves 61 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 5: in the Final four and maybe pushed through. So for 62 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 5: the Philadelphia Eagles, I'm not surprised that they're there. 63 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: It's just a matter of like. 64 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 5: You can have all the talent in the world, but 65 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 5: the pieces of the puzzle have to come together, and 66 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 5: they came together for the Eagles. 67 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 4: They certainly did. 68 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: And I keep on remembering what you say said over 69 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: and over again because during the weeks we play bottom 70 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: barrel betting and sometimes we take Kansas City, don't take 71 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: Kansas City. 72 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: And you always tell me, until. 73 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: They're knocked off the crown, don't bet against them. And 74 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people going with the 75 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: Eagles today and we'll get it to this heavily as 76 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: we roll down the next two hours and so two 77 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: plus hours. But you know, until someone knocks them off, 78 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: they're still the champs. And I keep on remembering what 79 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: you say about that. Even though I look at the 80 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: Eagles and their personnel is so strong, I think they're 81 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: just man Fa Manda are a better team than the 82 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. But again, as Bucky brook says, until 83 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: they're knocked off the crown, they're the champion. 84 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: Don't bet against them. 85 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, until someone beats them, not, you can't bet against them. 86 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 5: And that's the thing, it's the evidence of watching someone 87 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 5: actually finish the deal. A lot of times, the Kansas 88 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 5: City Chiefs just wait for the other team to implode. 89 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 5: They've been successful because they execute in the high leverage 90 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 5: moments of games where other teams falter. And that has 91 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 5: been recipe and some of us kind of deem it 92 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 5: to be fluky and luck and all this other stuff 93 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 5: I just say it's kind of the thing that happens 94 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 5: when you're a champ. 95 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: When you're a champion and you learn how to win, not. 96 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: That it gets easier, but you understand when to insert 97 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 5: yourself when you have to make a play. The moment 98 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 5: doesn't get too big because you've done it time and 99 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 5: time again. 100 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: That's what we can see. The Chiefs sit downe They. 101 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: Made those gay plays in big moments, right, and they 102 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: got the players to get it done too. 103 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 4: Now we talk about surprise. 104 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: I think the real big surprise right now, Josh Allen 105 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills, their quarterback, was named the MVP. 106 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: He gets twenty seven first place votes. The total three 107 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: or eighty three points. Lamar Jackson twenty three first place 108 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: votes three P sixty two. All Right, I don't get it. 109 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: I really don't. You look at statistics, and maybe statistics 110 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: don't count. Josh Allen trailed Lamar Jackson in almost every 111 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: stack category as. 112 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: Far as quarterbacks are concerned. I don't get it. I 113 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: don't understand how he gets it. 114 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: Maybe they thought that Josh Allen did more with less 115 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: talent because Stefan Digson gave Davis were not there this year. 116 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 2: But I kind of liked on TMZ earlier this week. 117 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: I kind of like what the Hall of Famer Jonathan Oulton. 118 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: Have to say. 119 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: They gave it to Josh. Yes, he's a great quarterback, 120 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: but he had not won an MVP. Lamar had two, 121 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: and everybody said, well, let's just give him one. That's 122 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: what Jonathan Outen said, and I believe him. I really 123 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: believe him. 124 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this truth to that. 125 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 5: There was Lamar Jackson fatigue, and there was this thing 126 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 5: like poor old Joshi. Let's give poor Joshi one because 127 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 5: he had one one now he's deserving. And I could 128 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 5: see it being a thing because there was a stretch 129 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 5: in the season where they knocked off the Detroit Lions 130 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 5: and the LA Rams and back to back weeks. Those 131 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 5: games were national televised games, being theated the game of 132 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 5: the week, so everyone had a chance to see him 133 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 5: do his thing, and he was spectacular. I saw him 134 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 5: on a Monday night against the Jackson and Jaguars. He 135 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 5: dominated the game. That said, his numbers were not quite 136 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 5: the same as Lamar Jackson. Let me also prevent people 137 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 5: from completely dumping on Josh Allen. So they've only been 138 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 5: three quarterbacks in NFL history who have had forty total 139 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 5: touchdowns five hundred plus yards and they've had fewer than 140 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 5: seven interceptions. Those guys are Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. 141 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 5: Because Lamar Jackson has done it twice, Josh Allen has 142 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 5: done it this year, and both of those guys did 143 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 5: it this year. So the year that he had, it's 144 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 5: certainly worthy of being recognized as one of the best 145 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: years in NFL history. The issue that you have is 146 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 5: is the award most valuable or most outstanding? Because if 147 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 5: you go most outstanding, then which is normally done, Lamar 148 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 5: Jackson probably would be most outstanding based on the stats 149 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 5: that you reference. Most valuable, I mean you can split 150 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 5: the baby in terms of like who's more valuable to 151 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 5: the team. And in fact, if you say most valuable, 152 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 5: I would then contend that that brings Saquon Barkley into 153 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 5: the conversation based on his. 154 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: Impact on the Eagles. 155 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 5: But what we have and you saw the narrative start 156 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 5: forming over the course of the year. Sometimes as media members, 157 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 5: we love storylines, right, and so in the middle of 158 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 5: the year, you start talking about Josh Allen, MVP, Josh 159 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 5: Allen MVP Josh Allen MVP. 160 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: And perception becomes reality. 161 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: And so at the end of the year, a lot 162 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 5: of people that touted that voted that. The thing that 163 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 5: I like that's coming out about all of this is 164 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: the transparency when they pulled the votes, and they pulled 165 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 5: the voters and they showed who voted first, second, third, fourth, 166 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 5: and fifth. Now you have a level of accountability. I 167 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 5: think Jim Miller voted Lamar Jackson fourth in the MVP. 168 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 5: They deal with that, which is ludicrous, right, It's ridiculous. 169 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: There were people that had Pat Mahomes. 170 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 5: Third, which is also ridiculous given the numbers and given 171 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 5: how the cancit the Chiefs had won, didn't necessarily went 172 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 5: because Pat Mahomes. They weren't because of the defense and 173 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 5: other parts of the team. So look, hold everybody accountable 174 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 5: so we can see that, and so maybe the next. 175 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: Time we have these votes. 176 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 5: I'm not saying that it changed the results, but I 177 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 5: think people have to think twice about who they selecting 178 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 5: these situations. 179 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna argue for Saquon Barkley because I've 180 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: given up. I put up the flag saying look, they're 181 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: going to have changed the name of the award to the 182 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: quarterback Most Valuable because it is a quarterback trophy, all right, 183 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: but sake Quan should. 184 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: Have gotten it. I'm not even going to go down 185 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: that road because it's ludicrous, it really is. 186 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: But I will say this, Lamar Jackson won the MVP 187 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: in nineteen and he won it in twenty twenty three. 188 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: This year, his stats were better than both those years, 189 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: so I guess it's not a statistical trophy. 190 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. 191 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: He had a career high of forty one seventy two 192 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: passing yards. He had forty one touchdowns this year. That 193 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: was the first number one ranking in offense for his team. 194 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: He began the first player in league history to produce 195 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: more than four thousand yards passing and nine hundred yards 196 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: plus in rushing the same season. And he didn't get 197 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: the award, but it got it nineteen and twenty three, 198 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: and these stats it better. 199 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 4: I don't get it. I really don't. 200 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's look, it's one of those things. 201 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 5: It was, as they would say, like for Josh Allen, 202 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 5: it was his time, and it was his time because 203 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 5: people decided to make it his time. 204 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: Nothing with Lamar Jackson and those things. 205 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 5: The people decided that they wanted Josh Allen to be 206 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 5: the MVP, so Josh Allen was the MVP. It reminds 207 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 5: me a lot of the times in the NBA when 208 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 5: Michael Jordan was clearly the best player, but the award 209 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 5: went to Charles Barkley or the award. 210 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 3: Went to Carl Malone. 211 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: Those things sometimes happened, but that's what it was. I mean, 212 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 5: maybe even Steve Nash winning over Shack a couple of times. 213 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 5: You know, we decide to fall in love with certain guys, 214 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 5: and certain guys benefit from kind of being the anointed 215 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 5: one in media circles. 216 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: The only award that I'll say, okay, I agree, the 217 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: Offensive Rookie of the Year Jaden Danes. There's no problem there. 218 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: He's got that hands down. Okay, Defensive Player of the Year. 219 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not doing this because I'm a homer here, 220 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: but Trey Hendrickson led the league in sacks eleven may 221 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: even Miles Garrett maybe could have gotten it, but Patrick's curtain. 222 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: I mean, really, a quarterback is the first quarterback like 223 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: in five years to win the award. I don't understand 224 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: who's doing the voting here. Were you happy with the 225 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: certain deal of Defensive Player of the Year. 226 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 5: You know, I think it was a year where no 227 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 5: one necessarily jumped out and distinguished himself. For the longest time, 228 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 5: I thought Xavier McKinnie was gonna have an opportunity to 229 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 5: win it because he had so many interceptions early came 230 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 5: out of the box quickly. Then when it came to 231 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 5: the sack artist, the guys at the top, So Trey Hendrickson, 232 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 5: for instance, he is dominating, but he's on a bad team. 233 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 5: So do you reward the numbers or do you reward 234 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 5: the impact? Because despite his numbers, it didn't have enough 235 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 5: impact on the team's bottom line. Patrick Deontan played for 236 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 5: a really good defense. The Broncos came out of nowhere 237 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 5: and we're playing well. I could see some of it 238 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: is this different. I think it was a year where 239 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 5: there were a lot of really good performances, not enough 240 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 5: great performances. And then at that point you're trying to 241 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 5: pick the best of the best, and so Pat Mahomes, 242 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 5: I mean Pettin Pat Mahomes passer ten ends up winning. 243 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you talked about playing on the bad teams, about 244 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. They got the Combat Player of the Year. 245 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: They give it to Joe Burrow. I guess they felt 246 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: that they had to give Burrow something. But how does 247 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold not get the Comeback Player of the Year. 248 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: This guy was a benchwarmer. This guy couldn't make it 249 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: on the Jets, really, and he came there. His coach 250 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: in Minnesota basically was Coach of the Year. How could 251 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: he not be the Comeback Player of the Year because 252 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 2: he helped his coach get that award. It's crazy, really, 253 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 2: I get it. Joe Burrow had great stats. I guess 254 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: they didn't know what to give Borrow. He led the 255 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: NFL with for four nine hundred plus yards and forty 256 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: three touchdown passes, So you got to give the guy something. 257 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: But his team was so bad, so I give him 258 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: the Comeback Player of the Year. 259 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: I don't get it. And he's won this award twice. 260 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: You know, Comeback Player of the Year to me is 261 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: not because you were injured and come back. It's like 262 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: when Joe Flappol came off the couch and played. That's 263 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: a comeback Player of the Year. Not being injured and 264 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: coming back. It's like doing nothing and doing something after that. 265 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 5: Well, I think they changed the turns because the Joe 266 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 5: Flaccol thing frustrated some people because they were saying, what 267 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 5: did he come back from? He just came back from 268 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 5: not playing like that doesn't necessarily match the spirit or 269 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 5: the intention of the award. With Sam Darnold, I guess 270 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 5: they were saying the same, like, he didn't come back 271 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 5: from catastrophic. 272 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: Injury or anything like that. 273 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 5: He just had an opportunity to play, and he played 274 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 5: better than anybody anticipate. 275 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: But it came back for the pet that's what he did. 276 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, So that that troublesome, but he still ended up 277 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 5: on maybe thirteen fifteen ballots despite not necessarily being eligible 278 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 5: for the award given those terms. Look, I felt like 279 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 5: Joe burd was going to win it coming off of 280 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 5: what he came off of and the way that he 281 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 5: performed because people were trying to throw him into the 282 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: MVP race given his numbers. 283 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you want everyone to come away with the trophy. 284 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 5: So I can tell you this as a coach of 285 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 5: a high school team and you're thinking about the awards 286 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 5: that you married out, are you like Diskyd Diskyid Diskyid 287 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 5: They all are worthy of trophies let's make sure we 288 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 5: give them something to recognize what their contributions to the squad. 289 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: I hate it you saying I did some believe it 290 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: and I did a little research out of this voting works, 291 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: and you apply no other but the MVP award voted 292 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: on by fifty voters who were all selected by the 293 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: Associated Press. The same fifty voters also vote on the 294 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: All Pro team, and Lamar Jackson was voted the first 295 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: team All Pro Quarterback. 296 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 297 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: So Jackson got thirty of the fifty first place votes 298 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: in the All Pro voting and Josh Allen. 299 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 4: Only got eighteen. 300 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: And that's important that you got to note that because 301 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: the old Pro quarterback always ends up getting the MVP. 302 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: Wanted. 303 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 5: They wanted to make sure that both guys they were 304 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 5: trying to split the baby. They're trying to make sure 305 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 5: that both guys walked away happy. So you give Lamar 306 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 5: Jackson All Pro and then you give Josh Allen MVP. 307 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 3: That was the way that they thought. 308 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 5: They could satisfy both people. You know, so both guys 309 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 5: walk away at the awards banquet with hardware. That's what 310 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 5: they wanted to make sure it happen. And that's what 311 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 5: ultimately happened. 312 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: Okay, you played the game song on a get like 313 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: you pull the curtain back a little bit. Do players 314 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: really care about these awards except maybe some of them 315 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: get like a cash bonus if they get an award? 316 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 4: Is it that big of a deal? 317 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: I mean, Lamar Jackson to me, would rather be carrying 318 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl Trophy than any MVP trophy. 319 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: I think maybe I'm wrong. 320 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: It does matter. 321 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 5: I don't know if they care about what those things, 322 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 5: how it impacts you now, but it certainly matters when 323 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 5: you get down to Hall of Fame stuff. When you 324 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 5: start talking about getting the gold jacket? What do people contemplate? 325 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 5: How many MVPs, how many all pros? What you were 326 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 5: able to do? We can talk about ring culture, but 327 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: after rings, it comes down to where you won the 328 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 5: dominant players in the league. 329 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: Were you the elite of the elites. Well, when you 330 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: have an MVP on your. 331 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 5: Resume, it fortifies your case to be in a Gold 332 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 5: jacket recipient down down the line. 333 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, like it matters, It matters. 334 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 5: I'll say, it has a significant impact on how players 335 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 5: legacies are built and how people view those players. 336 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: So it matters to them for sure. 337 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up the Rings situation there because 338 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: I was shocked. I mean, really and truly I thought 339 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: just a name in fact would get him into the 340 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. 341 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 4: And I'm talking about Eli Manning, the quarterback of the Giants. 342 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: And look, I did say this to your way back 343 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: when I said I don't think he was a Hall 344 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: of Famer. Going back now, looking at stats, I'm gonna 345 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: say this. He had two playoff runs, pretty good playoff runs. 346 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: Two Super Bowl wins over the New England Patriots, Okay, 347 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: two Super Bowl MVPs. And the statistics I had no 348 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: idea in the top ten old time in passing yards 349 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: over fifty seven thousand yards top ten, and touchdowns three 350 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: into sixty six. This is when they retired in twenty nineteen. 351 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: And I know his record as a quarterback was just 352 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: of a five hundred. But looking at this now, Dan 353 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: Fouts was two games of a five hundred, and War 354 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: a Moon was a game of a five hundred, and 355 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: they're in the Hall of Fame. So I've changed my tune. 356 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: I think Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer. 357 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I disagree with you. I don't think 358 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: he's a Hall of Famer. 359 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: I haven't thought it was until Yeah. 360 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 5: Like those stats are nice, but they're like a bag 361 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 5: of potato chips, right, they're empty calories. Right, So you're 362 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 5: just talking about being on a bad team. So if 363 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 5: you're on a bad team, because you said his record 364 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 5: is right at five hundred, that means you're chasing points. 365 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 5: So what does that mean? You bring up a lot 366 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 5: of stats at the end of games that don't have 367 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 5: any meaning. 368 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: Or impact on the game. 369 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 5: You can talk about touchdowns and those things. I think 370 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 5: what matters more is I think he led the league 371 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 5: in interceptions three or four times in his career. 372 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: That's bad. 373 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 5: There's nothing that you can tell me that's good about 374 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 5: being the inception interception leader in the National Football League 375 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 5: at the end of a season and to do it 376 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 5: three times, to me, that's problematic. I know people say, 377 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 5: we'll Brett Fare's up there, no risk it, no biscuit. 378 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: YadA, YadA YadA. 379 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 5: But at no point did we ever feel like Eli 380 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 5: Manni was the best quarterback in the league. I don't 381 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 5: know if there was a consistent stretch where we ever 382 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 5: felt like Eli Manning was a top five quarterback in 383 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 5: the league doing. 384 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 4: His I've been down that road with you. 385 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: I've agree with you until the Hall of Fame statistics 386 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: came out and I read now I said wow, because 387 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: I was with you all the way. I never thought 388 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: he was a Hall of Fame or the big woop 389 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: pick got two Super Bowls. 390 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 4: Okay, I get it. 391 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: But the point is that I thought if he would 392 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: get in it because of his name, and now I'm saying, well, 393 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: maybe he should get in. I do believe I think 394 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 2: you might believe this too. I think he eventually will 395 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: get in. 396 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: Oh, He's gonna get in. 397 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 5: I just knew he wasn't going to get in as 398 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 5: the first ballot. Like as people distinguish and separate Hall 399 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 5: of Famers, I mean as they talk about like they're 400 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 5: being multiple wings in the Hall of Fame, like their 401 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 5: levels to it. Yeah, first ballot Hall of Famers are 402 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 5: seeing as guys that are unbelievable, transcendent talents you can't deny. 403 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 5: Which is why it was so bad that I don't 404 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 5: think Too was let in on his first ballot, but 405 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 5: Randy Moss was. 406 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: But when you look at Randy Moss. 407 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 5: And Too's stats, they're nearly identical, nearly identical, and so 408 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 5: some of the popularity contest comes in, and that's why 409 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 5: Eli will eventually get in because he is so popular 410 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 5: and the manning name is royalty. 411 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: And football circles. 412 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 5: But I'm okay with him waiting, and I'm also okay 413 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 5: with him waiting, so Sterling and Shannon Sharp could be 414 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 5: the first brothers to go into Hall of Fame. 415 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 4: That was pretty neat too, It really was. I will 416 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 4: tell you this. 417 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 2: I was impressed to note that after sixteen seasons in 418 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: the National Football League, he never missed a game because 419 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: of injury. 420 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 4: That's pretty good. Yeah, that's a pretty good deal. 421 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 5: Would Eli, Well, I mean there's something too showing up 422 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 5: every day, and I can respect him showing up every 423 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 5: day and doing his job and being available. Those things 424 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 5: are important, so I look, I respect it. I also 425 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 5: respect two time Super Bowl champion. I was in the 426 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 5: building for two of those when he made improbable play 427 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 5: to really seal the deal for his team. 428 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: He is worthy. 429 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 5: He's one of the best playoff quarterbacks that we've seen. 430 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 5: The problem is his team didn't go to the playoffs 431 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 5: enough they want. When they went, they won, but they 432 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 5: didn't go a lot you know, so it's just a 433 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 5: weird football history football career to determine whether he's a 434 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 5: gold jacket guy, whether he's worthy of being a gold 435 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 5: jacket guy or not. 436 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because it's not that big of 437 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: a deal not getting into the first time. 438 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 4: It really is. 439 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: Michael Strahan did not get in the first time. Terrell 440 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: Owens is not a first timer. John Rander was not 441 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: a first timer. However, I'll never forget what Pete Rose 442 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: may he rest in peace told me way back when 443 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: he said this about the Baseball Hall of Fame. If 444 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: you don't get in the first time, you shouldn't get 445 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: in at all, because you don't get better over time. 446 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: It kind of makes sense because you see these guys 447 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: on the Hall of Fame Baseball ballot, it looks like 448 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: they're on there forever, and eventually they do get in, 449 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: and they don't get into the ballot, they get on 450 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: the veterans mini deal. So what Pete said made some sense, Like, 451 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: you don't get in the first time, forget it. You 452 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: shouldn't get in because again, you're gonna keep on getting 453 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: on that ballot and you're not getting any better. 454 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: Your stats don't get better. 455 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 3: No, I mean your stats don't get better. I see 456 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: Summer the point. 457 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 5: But if you're talking about putting a cap on the 458 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 5: number of guys that goes into the Hall each year, man, 459 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 5: it's hard to hold it so firm where you only 460 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 5: get one opportunity to kind of show and prove whether 461 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 5: you can go or not. 462 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: You know, that makes it tough. That makes it a 463 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 3: tougher a tougher hustle when it came. 464 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: And eventually, if you don't get in, you're gonna get 465 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: off the ballot. You you forget it. If you know, 466 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: if you don't get an X amount of years, you 467 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: know your time is up and you're off the ballot. 468 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: You're not gonna go into the Hall. That's the way 469 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: it is. But they do have that Veterans Committee in 470 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, meaning I'll never figure, well when Bill 471 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: Masarowski got in. I mean Bill Masarowski's claimed the fame 472 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: with the Pittsburgh Pirates in nineteen sixty when the Pirates 473 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: won the World Series hit that home run. Other than that, 474 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: I don't he's got like a career average like two sixty. 475 00:20:58,920 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 4: I don't. 476 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: I never thought Bill Zarowski was a Hall of famer. Sorry, 477 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: that's my take on that that was a Veterans Committee deal. 478 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 5: Who knows, Okay, I mean, I think the Veterans Committee 479 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 5: is worthy because I think what they're able to do 480 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 5: is to kind of take some of the emotion out 481 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 5: and to be able to really look at the veterans' 482 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 5: careers versus those of others who've been admitted. I think 483 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 5: sometimes when you're on that initial slate, that initial ballot, 484 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 5: it's about the hearing. Now it's about hot names, numbers, 485 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 5: all those other things. I think there's some levity to 486 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 5: the situation when when you go to the seniors or 487 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 5: the Veterans Committee in both sports. 488 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: But I've always felt that the Veterans Committee is like, 489 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: we're going to take care of one of our own, 490 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 2: you know, the old guys say, oh, let's let's let 491 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: him in. 492 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 4: He's one of us. 493 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 3: You know. 494 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 4: Maybe I'm wrong, the good old boys system let him in. 495 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 4: Maybe I just felt that way. 496 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: I didn't even think they should have a veterans committee, 497 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 2: just the right regular voters get in. If you're not in, Sorry, 498 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: that's it, biggie m No. 499 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: That's that's a lot a lot. 500 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's wanted to be. 501 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: In the Hall of Fame. I mean, be it football, baseball, best, 502 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: whatever it may be. I just don't think any any 503 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 2: any schmucks should go to the Hall of Fame. I mean, 504 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: you really have to be heading shoulders above others to 505 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 2: get into. 506 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 4: The Hall of Fame. 507 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: And maybe that's why I'm going to I'm wavering now 508 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: on Eli Manning. Maybe he's not heading shoulders over the 509 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: rest of the crew. 510 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 5: I mean I would agree with I agree with you 511 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 5: on that, but and I think a lot of these things, 512 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 5: like what happens is the numbers are going to get 513 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 5: so clouded, right because as we've changed errors, we've changed emphasis, 514 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 5: particularly on offense. We went from being a running league 515 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 5: three years and the cloud of us to being a 516 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 5: passing league. And so the numbers that you made reference 517 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 5: with a Damn Marino, a Dan Fous they're not applicable 518 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 5: now because what they were doing back then was I mean, 519 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 5: it was unheard of, you know, it was eye popping. 520 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 5: Now Dan Marino's numbers in a regular season would just 521 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 5: be like, Okay, you had another four thousand yards season. 522 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 5: That's great, you know, And so I think death was 523 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 5: hard when it comes to like box score scouting and comparing. 524 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 5: You just can't put enough context around the eras that 525 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 5: different players played in. 526 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 4: There's no doubt. 527 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: I mean, when Jim Brown played's good rushed for one 528 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: thousand yards, he was doing in a twelve game season 529 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 2: or a fourteen game season. Now the same barometer is 530 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,239 Speaker 2: a thousand yards. But they're doing getting seventeen games and 531 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 2: no one puts an asterisk next to it, makes a 532 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 2: big deal about it. I mean, people and the media 533 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: people are crazy because say, oh, he rushed for one 534 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: thousand yards, Hey, pull the last dirut next to it. 535 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 2: He did it in seventeen games. There were players that 536 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: did it in twelve or fourteen games. That was something 537 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: when they did it back then. I mean, it's still 538 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: a big deal to rush for one thousand yards, I 539 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: believe me. And what Saquon did two thousand plus it's 540 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: unheard of, it really is. But this seventeen games, not 541 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: a play, not fourteen. 542 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that it certainly changes the thing. And 543 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 5: that's why I'm saying. The numbers are the numbers, but 544 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 5: we like to use the numbers to back arguments, and 545 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 5: unfortunately the numbers don't have the same context as they 546 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 5: did because they aren't. All the numbers aren't valued equally, 547 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 5: so it's hard to determine certain cases based on these 548 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 5: numbers arguments because it's different. 549 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: You're talking about different errors. 550 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: You're exactly right talking about numbers. We have a phone 551 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: number if anybody wants to call us, it's eight seven 552 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 2: seven ninety nine nine Fox eight seven seven nine nine 553 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: six sixty six Stey nineties, Bucky Brooks, get him on 554 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: X at Bucky Brooks at Swollen Dome. 555 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: Who's that? That's Mike Harmon. 556 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: He joined us in our number three at ain't Deferman 557 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: that's me at ain'ty Ferman FSR. 558 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 4: We'd love to hear from you. 559 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: We got to ask Bucky in this hour bout un 560 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: barrel betting coming down the stretch is just about over 561 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: after today and we'll find out. We get the champion, 562 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: and we know who he is anyway, but we want 563 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: to make an official bot and barrel betting our number 564 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: two it's the finale and our number three has mentioned 565 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: Mike Harmon this Swollen Dome will join us. But these 566 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: coaches have a common bond. We'll tell you all about 567 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: it next. 568 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 569 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 570 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 6: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 571 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 6: listen live. 572 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 4: Living on the Edge. That's right around the corner. 573 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, this is Super Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. 574 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Ferman. 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Now let's get into this over here, 584 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks, because we've got the two Super Bowl coaches, 585 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni of the Eagles and Andy Reid with the 586 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. And I didn't know this until just 587 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: the other day that Nick Sirianni is up for his contract. 588 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 2: Is contract is up after this season and it looks 589 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: like a win in the. 590 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 4: Super Bowl will really push him over the topic. 591 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: Because if you look at so Man, these rookie head coaches, 592 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: they've really bumped up the salary structure of the head 593 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: coaching situation from ten million to thirteen million a year 594 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: on waded to the new head coach Ben Johnson. Right now, 595 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: he's getting like thirteen mil Siani only makes seven million dollars, 596 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: one of the lowest paid NFL head coaches. He signed 597 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: a five year, thirty five million dollar deal in January 598 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty one, and that's going. 599 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 4: To expire after this year. 600 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: All Right, he's forty eight and twenty in the regular season. 601 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: But here is another thing which I don't like. I 602 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 2: don't like the idea that everybody's salary is listed out there. 603 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how you feel about that. 604 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: You know, media people talk about salaries and what ownership 605 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: should do with contracts and budgets and whatever. You know, 606 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: I'd like to know what these media people make, you know, 607 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: I think it's a personal thing. 608 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 4: Salaries. 609 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: Okay, I know I'm talking about Seriani's deal. It was well, 610 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: but so we mentioned it right now in a big 611 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: win today, We'll push them over the hump, no doubt 612 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: about that. But what's your take on people talking about 613 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: other people's salaries. I don't like it. I don't want 614 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 2: to know what my coworkers here and Fox make. It's 615 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: none of my business. 616 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, if players salaries are publick, and coaches 617 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 5: and everybody else's salaries should be public. It shouldn't just 618 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 5: be the players that are subject to oh we need 619 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 5: to dump them. Let's just think about the Cleveland Browns 620 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 5: in their situation with Deshaun Watson. A lot of the 621 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 5: vitriol that Deshaun Watson receives is less about the allegations 622 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 5: and the civil suits and more about the money and 623 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 5: people hating the amount of money that he makes given 624 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: the circumstances and situations around him. Whereas if we do 625 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 5: the same thing when it comes to coaches and those things, 626 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 5: I think we should put all that stuff out there. 627 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 5: If we're going to do it for the players, then 628 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 5: you have to do it for the players and everyone 629 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 5: around the game. To me, that's how it should be. 630 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 5: It can't be a we're going to hide it in 631 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 5: this area but disclosing in other areas. Now, if you 632 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 5: want transparency where we see what people are making to 633 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 5: put it out there for everybody to see. 634 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 4: I'm with you, you know. 635 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: And as far as to the Shaun Watson situation that 636 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 2: changed the entire landscape for quarterback salaries, it really did. 637 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: And I gotta believe it maybe on way off based 638 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: on this, but I gotta believe it's not the Cleveland 639 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: Browns that released the money. 640 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 4: I think it's the agents. I think the agents do it, 641 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: don't you think. I mean it's the agents go to the. 642 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 5: Media, and yeah, they are doing it because they're trying 643 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 5: to attract more clientele. Right. Part of the selling thing 644 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 5: is look at the contracts that we were able to 645 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 5: get for X, Y and Z player. 646 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 3: You come with us, this is what we can do 647 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: for you. That is the agents selling that. 648 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 5: It's much like a real estate agent, right, like kind 649 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 5: of showing which homes they've sold and which ones they 650 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 5: currently have on the market. In those things, that's part 651 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 5: of the sale. That's part of the spend of the business. 652 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: You know, doubt about that. Okay, we talk about these 653 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: two coaches right now in Syriana. He's got a lot 654 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: on the line today. I'm sure the last thing on 655 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: his mind is his contract today, But you know it's 656 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: back there. Sure they got common bondsers and losers, and 657 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: both these coaches, believe it or not, we're fired. 658 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: Okay. The Eagles went two and two. 659 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: This year after they lost to Tampa Bay, remember that 660 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: way back when in October I think it was, and 661 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: the fans wanted his head, they wanted to have gone. 662 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: And then when the Eagles beat the Browns back in 663 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: October again, Syriani got into it with some of the 664 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: fans after the game. 665 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: That was great. 666 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they were mocking him and he 667 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: went crazy on them. He should have just walked away. 668 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: Siriani right now the sixth NFL coach to reach the 669 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: playoffs in each. 670 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 4: Of its first four seasons. 671 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: He's a winning percentage of over seventy percent, third best 672 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: among coaches during the Super Bowl era. That's a minimum 673 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: fifty games. I mean, he gets he gets a bad rap. 674 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: He's a pretty pretty good coach as far as records concerned. 675 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: I know he's got a great team, but he's done 676 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 4: a pretty good job. Really. 677 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 678 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 5: A lot of people that have had great teams, great 679 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 5: individual like rosses with great talent, but haven't been able 680 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 5: to teach them to win. He's won a lot of games. 681 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 5: And love him, I hate him. You can't deny that 682 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 5: he's a really good coach. He fixed the Eagles when 683 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 5: they were struggling this year. He had them bounced back 684 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 5: from a disappointing year a season ago. That to me, 685 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 5: speaks volumes about his ability to identify problems, to solve problems, 686 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 5: and to get his team headed in the right direction. 687 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 5: Two super bowls and five years is nothing to sneeze at. Like, 688 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 5: if he wins today, he has. 689 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: To do it. 690 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 5: The only thing I don't like about sirianni situation. The 691 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 5: Eagles have all the leverage. He can't necessarily play hardball because. 692 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: There's not another job that's available. 693 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 5: So if he wants the job, and if the Eagles 694 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 5: are dead set on not paying him top of the 695 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 5: market money, what does Nick Sirianni do Because the perception 696 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 5: on him about not being good in those things Dad 697 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 5: lingers and we know perception comes reality. Would how does 698 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 5: the rest of the football world view him as a coach? 699 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 5: That makes it a real tricky thing when it comes 700 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 5: to negotiation for Sirianni. 701 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 4: No, do you know dot about that? 702 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: But you look at the rookie coaches of the Ben 703 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: Johnson's at the world getting thirteen millions. The guys have 704 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: a coach who was a head coach before, so we'll 705 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: see what happens. But moving over to Andy Reid back 706 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: in all three he was with the Eagles started the 707 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: season on one two, lost those games with a combined 708 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 2: score of forty eight to ten. Eagles did go on 709 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: to twelve and two the rest of the way. He 710 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: made it to the NFC Championship Game, made it to 711 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl the next year. However, after twenty twelve, 712 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: believe it or not, Andy Reid was fired by the Eagles. 713 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: He lasted fourteen seasons with the Eagles, five NFC Championship games. 714 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: Both coaches were fired, won basically by the fans and 715 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: by the media Seriani, and won by the ball club, 716 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: which is Andy Reid, and they are the two of 717 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: the most successful coaches in the history of the Philadelphia Eagles. 718 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: Go figure that go figure. 719 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean go figure, but also speaks to the 720 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 5: this is the landscape pro football, pro sports. 721 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 3: Everybody spicks their. 722 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 5: Teams to win all the time, and when the teams 723 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 5: don't win, the first got to blame as the coach. 724 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 5: Andy Reid had a successful run, an unprecedent run of 725 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 5: success in Philadelphia, the number of NFC Championship games that 726 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 5: they were able to get to, though it only results 727 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 5: in one Super Bowl appearance and they didn't win that one. Look, 728 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 5: he made the team a perennial power in the NFC. 729 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 5: There's a belief or thought that his messaging had gotten 730 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 5: stale in the locker room. So Jeffrey Leurie wanted to 731 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 5: make a change, wanted to bring some fresh blood into 732 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 5: the organization, so they moved on from Andy Reid. Andy Reid, 733 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 5: to his credit, goes to Kansas City without much of 734 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 5: a break. I would say learns from some of those 735 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 5: lessons that he had to experience in Philly, and he 736 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 5: has made the King City Chiefs into a juggernaut. And 737 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 5: that probably doesn't happen if he doesn't get let go 738 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 5: from Philly because he didn't have to do the self 739 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 5: reflection that was necessary, that was needed to help him 740 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 5: become the coaching figure that he's become. Sometimes Jerry's good 741 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 5: in being let go from a job because it does 742 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 5: force you to do a swat analysis of yourself. See 743 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 5: what your strengths and weaknesses are and figure out how 744 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 5: to become a better coach. 745 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: But isn't it money that more often than not, the 746 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: guy that lets you go it fires you has no 747 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: background in the sport as well. 748 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 4: Think about that. 749 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: I mean, look at New England, all right, the Giants 750 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: do Sae Kwon Barkley going? That was crazy? I mean, 751 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: I mean situations like that. And Laurie in Philadelphia, what 752 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: position did he play in the NFL? I mean, it's crazy, 753 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: isn't it. Guys never played the game and they're making 754 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: football decisions. 755 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they have the money, and they have the 756 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 5: money and they have the ability to run a business. 757 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: Make no mistake. As much as I love the game, 758 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: the game is. 759 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 5: About business and it's about building a fun product. But 760 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 5: in real time, the product is going to make money 761 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 5: regardless of what the team wins or not. I mean, 762 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 5: just look at how these franchise valuations go up the 763 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 5: Cincinnati Bengals. Look at how rich the Brown family is 764 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 5: off of the evaluation of the ball club. Let's think about 765 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 5: the Jerry Jones investment and what he bought the cowboysh 766 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 5: for I think one hundred and eighty million. Now they 767 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 5: are ten billion dollar franchise. The business is always booming. 768 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 5: And some of the decisions that you make, our football decisions, 769 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 5: but they're made with an eye tours business and what 770 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 5: will help the bottom line. 771 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 4: Right, It's amazing. 772 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 2: We'll get into the Chiefs coming up in so much 773 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: more because I want to talk about comparing the Chiefs 774 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty two as fair as the Chiefs 775 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 2: this year offensively what they did. We'll do that and 776 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: so much more. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Firman. We 777 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 2: have Fox for Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. And 778 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: again it's that time. It is that time. What is 779 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: that time? It's it's Bucky and it is freaking next. 780 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 781 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 4: It's Bucky coming right up. That's Bucky Brooks. 782 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman, and we have Fox Football Sunday on 783 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio about eleven minutes before the top of 784 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: the hour, and we are live from the tire rack 785 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: dot Com studios, and let's get it going. 786 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 4: It's Bucky. Here we go, all right. 787 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 2: Rick Patino, basketball coach at Saint John's University. There are 788 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,959 Speaker 2: at top of the Big easton basketball. Should he take 789 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: Saint john'son the tournament. It will be his sixth school 790 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: in the tournament. For him, his record is fifty three 791 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: and eighteen in the NC Double A tournament. He should 792 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: be the College Coach of the Year this year. Where 793 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: do you rate Rick Pattino all time as a coach? 794 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: Uh? 795 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 5: He's one of the best ever done it, going all 796 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 5: the way back to when he took Providence. He deserves 797 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,479 Speaker 5: that kind of respect. And I know there's always been 798 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 5: kind of scandaled around him, right, There's always kind of 799 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 5: been for some a sleazy nature. I have a ton 800 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 5: of respect for him in terms of what he's able 801 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 5: to do. He has turned underdogs into powers. He's taken 802 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 5: old school powerhouses and remade them into powers. 803 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 3: He did it. 804 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 5: At Kentucky in Louisville respectively, the work that he did 805 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 5: at Iona before taking over Saint John's. Because I grew 806 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 5: up at a time when Saint John's was a powerhouse. 807 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 5: He's built them back the things that he believe in. 808 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 5: I love conditioning, discipline, attention to detail. He deserves it 809 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 5: because this Saint John's team is fan tasting. They took 810 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 5: Yukon to task on Friday night. They deserve everything, they get, 811 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 5: all the praise she'd go to them. 812 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 2: I am impressed that you remember that Patino coached the 813 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 2: Gales of Iona. I'm impressed. 814 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 3: I am. 815 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 4: I'll give you a stock for this job. I understand 816 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 4: a lot of people don't know. 817 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: Hey, a lot of people don't even know where Iona 818 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 2: is or what I owner is the Gales in New Richmond, 819 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 2: New York, where Rob Petrie used to live with Laura Petrie. 820 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 2: New Richmond, New Rochelle, I'm sorry. In New Rochelle on 821 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: the Dickens also. 822 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 5: Known as New Rock City. Some people would call that right, like, 823 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 5: I understand what he's now. He look, he's outstanding. 824 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 4: He certainly is all right. 825 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: The super Bowl today, we know that the best Super 826 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 2: Bowl foods while watching the game, what would they be, 827 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks? 828 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 5: I mean, I think you have the old school things right. 829 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 5: You have to have chicken wings. Uh. You have to 830 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 5: have all your dips and all that other stuff with 831 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 5: whatever it is that you use, whether you have your 832 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 5: buffalo dip or your old French onion dip or whatever, 833 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 5: your chips, veggies, if you want to be healthy in 834 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 5: those things. I think sliders are always a big food. 835 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 5: And then you got to throw some meatballs. Can we 836 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 5: get some meat balls? 837 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 3: Maybe all of that? 838 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true, I tell you. 839 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 2: I would just wonder how many chicken wings will be 840 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 2: bought and eaten today? How many tons beyond real? 841 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 3: Right? I'm sure there's some kind of trivia question in that, right. 842 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 2: I like the breaded chicken wings, but I do like 843 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 2: the bones. Do you like the boneless or the bones? 844 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: I like the bones? 845 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the only wings if they have a bone. 846 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 4: If not, right, exactly right? The other ones you get 847 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 4: at McDonald's. Right, here we go. 848 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 2: We move on and speaking about watching the Super Bowl, 849 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: the best place for you, Bucket Brooks, to. 850 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 4: Watch the game is it home? Is it alone? 851 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 2: Is it a sports bar? Is with a group of 852 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: people with friends entertaining a party? What's the best place? 853 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 5: The best place is for me is at home, because 854 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 5: I want to kind of lock in and concentrate on 855 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 5: the game, parties and stuff for fun. 856 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 3: But there's a time where I want to hear the commentary. 857 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 5: I want to be able to really break it down 858 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 5: and look at it differently, and I don't want to 859 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 5: be distracted by some of the nonsensical conversations that take 860 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 5: place and Super Bowl because remember, you got a bunch 861 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 5: of casuals that are tuning in for the first time 862 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 5: to see the commercials and the halftime show. 863 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: None of that stuff that really interest me. How about 864 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 3: the game, And so. 865 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 5: I don't want to have some of these sidecar conversations 866 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 5: that are about nothing. 867 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 2: You know what, Our guy Shaysha is here, all right. 868 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 2: We missed him last week. He's back again. I'm so happy. 869 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 2: When he left last week, I thought he wasn't going 870 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 2: to come back. But he's back, and he's got some 871 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 2: information about these chicken wings. I think, shay She welcome back. 872 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 2: We missed you dearly. 873 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, I couldn't stay for very long. I missed you guys. 874 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 7: I miss you guys a lot, honestly. 875 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 4: And you'd better get a life then. Really. 876 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 7: Okay, but Americans will will be eating one point four seven. 877 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 8: Billion wings during Super Bowl? Will you would be billion 878 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 8: with a bee? 879 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? He isn't. 880 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 8: Boy, take what you want with that. But that's a 881 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 8: lot of chicken How much would you. 882 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 3: Do a lot of chicken ings? A lot of chicken wings? 883 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 4: Are you gonna care for today too? 884 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:09,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? 885 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 5: Some of them need to be baked, of course, remember baked, 886 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 5: not Fried Sha Shay Baked not Fried. 887 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: We care about your head, all right. 888 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 2: Last, but not least, the NBA had some major trades 889 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: the list ten days. How foolish is that league to 890 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 2: have their trading deadline bump against the Super Bowl and 891 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 2: Super Bowl Week? 892 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 4: How stupid was that? Really? 893 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. 894 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 5: It got a lot of attention anytime you see Luca 895 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 5: Donct's go across the wire, ad go across the wire, 896 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 5: some of the notable names that we saw, Jimmy Butler, 897 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 5: those things. They have to do it, but they needed 898 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 5: some pop and some sizzle. Then they had a slate 899 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 5: of afternoon games. I understood why they did it, but 900 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 5: like remember, the NFL is a fringe upon their territory. 901 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 5: Football is supposed to be done by now, So I 902 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 5: can't hait on the NBA for doing what they're doing. 903 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 4: Well, I hear what you're saying. They got some bump. 904 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 2: They really did, but still in all that could have 905 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: got more, perhaps if they did it earlier or maybe 906 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 2: just a little later, who knows, I don't know. All right, 907 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 2: he's Bucky Brooks. I'm any defirming this is Fox Football Sunday. 908 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: Is it too close to call? Who has the edge today? 909 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 2: We'll tell you all about that next right here, h Fox, 910 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 2: All right, where's the advantage? 911 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 4: We'll tell you in just about a minute. 912 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 2: Welcome to Super Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. This is 913 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm any Defirman, and 914 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 2: we're broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios 915 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: ti rack dot com. We'll help you get there and 916 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 2: on match selection, fast free shipping, free road as a protection, 917 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 2: and over ten thousand recommended his stollarsti rack dot com 918 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 2: the way tire bids should be. Bucky Brooks, are you 919 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 2: ready for the game? Are you ready? 920 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,280 Speaker 3: One? Ready for the game? Absolutely ready? 921 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you something funny. Number one is that 922 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 2: everybody's excited. I'm depressed because after today, it's over. You 923 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. We look forward to, like in 924 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 2: June July training camp. Today is it Today? 925 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 4: We hit the wall. It's all over. Football is done. 926 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 2: And I don't know why, and maybe I'm alone with this. 927 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 2: I don't know why the Super Bowl is on a Sunday. 928 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 2: I don't know why it's not on a Saturday night. 929 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 2: Could you explain that to me? 930 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 5: This should always be on a Sunday because the regular 931 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 5: season games on Sundays. I just I mean it makes Yeah, 932 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 5: it makes the most sense. It stays consistent with the schedule. 933 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 2: I've always thought that they wanted it on a Sunday 934 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 2: because the hotels will get like an extra day's you know, expenses. 935 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 4: I mean, they spend an extra night there. You know 936 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 937 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 2: There's just a tourists and the teams and everybody else 938 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 2: meet people. 939 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 5: I mean maybe maybe so like you always because normally 940 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 5: it's super late when the game is over, after all 941 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 5: the media obligations and all that other stuff. 942 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's more so just maintaining. 943 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 5: The consistency of the schedule they always play their games on. 944 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 4: Well, I know the ac cuds of Philadelphia happy. 945 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 2: I think there's no school tomorrow in Philadelphia because of 946 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl because the Eagles are in it. 947 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 4: I guess, I don't know. 948 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 3: I mean, and they're to win it. 949 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,439 Speaker 2: And I hope the mayor is going to school because 950 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 2: she got to learn how to spell the Eagles please 951 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 2: the gold Birds, right, I mean, that was embarrassing. We 952 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: move on, all right. I want to make a little 953 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 2: bit of a comparison here because two years ago these 954 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: two teams met in the Super Bowl in twenty twenty two. 955 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 2: The Chiefs won that game thirty eight to thirty five 956 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 2: over the Eagles, now super Bowl number five, seven fifty seven. 957 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 2: That year, the Chiefs scored four to ninety six points, 958 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,479 Speaker 2: the average almost thirty points again twenty nine point two, 959 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 2: and they scored thirty points in nine games that year. 960 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 2: This year, the Chiefs didn't score thirty points until they 961 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 2: beat the Bills thirty two to twenty nine. This year, 962 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 2: they ranked fifteenth in the league with a twenty two 963 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 2: point six point per game average, and their defense gave 964 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 2: up the fourth fewest points. The chief seventy consecutive wins 965 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 2: in one postseason game twelve this season. So the fact 966 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 2: that their offense is down, the fact that they're not 967 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,479 Speaker 2: the same team they were back then, and the fact 968 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 2: that there are people that are haters right now saying 969 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 2: that they're playing with a horseshoe up their rear end 970 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 2: because they were lucky. Maybe they're good. I guess, maybe 971 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 2: they're lucky, maybe a little of each. Look they played 972 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 2: in the AFC Championship game, they needed a fourth down 973 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 2: stop and the final two minutes when they dropped pass 974 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 2: to beat Buffalo back in week fourteen, that had that 975 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,919 Speaker 2: field goal from their emergency kicker matthew Wright to beat 976 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 2: the Chargers. Back in week ten, they almost were upset 977 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 2: by the Broncos. They blocked the field goal, so they 978 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 2: came out of it. You know, we're just with their 979 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,479 Speaker 2: with their head above water. 980 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:30,919 Speaker 4: Is it good? 981 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 2: Is it lucky? I asked you this question, Bucket Brooks. 982 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 2: Are they fortunate, are they clutch? Are they opportunistic? Or 983 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 2: are they resilient? Take your pick. 984 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 3: They're all of those teams. 985 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 5: But I would say they're resilient because they don't flinch 986 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 5: when the game is in critical moments. 987 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 3: They tend to make plays. 988 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 5: All those guys that you referenced in the run up 989 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 5: talking about the Chiefs and how they won, they're players 990 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 5: who made plays. They're not players who messed up plays 991 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 5: and for do Law. Others have just imploded when it 992 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 5: comes to being able to execute in critical moments against 993 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 5: the Chiefs. So I can't fault the Chiefs. They just 994 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 5: know that if they stayed, of course, the other team 995 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 5: would give it to them. And it's been proving time 996 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 5: and time again. 997 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 2: Well look I'm here in the Cincinnati area. They played 998 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 2: the Bengals in Week two. Harrison Buckner hit that fifty 999 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 2: one yard field goal. There's a time expired that what 1000 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 2: field goal was set up by a pass interference call, 1001 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 2: like a twenty nine yard pass interference call. They beat 1002 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: the Bengals, and look, I get it. And there are 1003 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: people right now that truly believe that this team has 1004 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 2: been I guess, been taken care of, if you will, 1005 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 2: by the officials. I think that's insane. I think is 1006 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 2: it a coincidence? I don't know. I don't think the 1007 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 2: officials are going out of their way to help the 1008 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 2: Kansas City chiefs. And I thought there was a situation 1009 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 2: where even Roger Goodell, you know, during Super Bowl week, 1010 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 2: had to make a statement saying, it's not. 1011 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 4: How how foolish is that? 1012 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 2: If I'm the commission I said, you know what, I'm 1013 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 2: not going down on that road. Our officials are there 1014 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 2: to officiate the game, and they do the best job 1015 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 2: they can do. They're not here to favor any teams, 1016 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 2: but the public things they are I guess the gambling 1017 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 2: public more so than anybody else. 1018 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,439 Speaker 5: Well, I would say that this is a time where 1019 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 5: We've had more conspiracy theories. 1020 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 3: In life. 1021 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 5: Yet one time everyone is looking for some mystical, magical 1022 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 5: reason as to why they're having their success. And what 1023 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 5: it sounds like to me when people are wandering about 1024 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 5: the officials a lot of sour grapes. You have opportunities 1025 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 5: to make plays, make the plays that are there to 1026 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 5: be made. Have they benefited from some questionable calls at times? Yes, 1027 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 5: but normally over the season those calls even out. It's 1028 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 5: about can you execute when you're required to execute at 1029 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 5: a high level in these moments, and if you can, 1030 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 5: you have an opportunity to win. But most teams have 1031 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 5: not been able to do it. 1032 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 4: It's amazing, you know, I just I just got a 1033 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 4: brainstorm here. I gotta throw this is. There's nothing to 1034 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 4: do with anything. But did you watch the show Thursday 1035 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:02,959 Speaker 4: night at the Awards show? 1036 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 3: I watched some watch. 1037 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 4: Okay, did you see. 1038 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 2: When Bill Belichick came on there towards the end he 1039 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 2: was wearing that that red jacket Bill Belichick. 1040 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure. But his girlfriend with all the rings, Yeah, 1041 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 3: you hear the. 1042 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 4: Ring on everything. I mean, why why would. 1043 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:21,879 Speaker 5: You want a bunch of them? He wanted to show 1044 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 5: him off. He even had his girlfriend were one. 1045 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:25,720 Speaker 4: It was crazy. 1046 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 2: I thought that was nuts. I didn't think Bill Belichick 1047 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,879 Speaker 2: was that kind of a guy. I just didn't think 1048 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 2: he was that way. I really didn't. But you know, 1049 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 2: to wear all those rings, most athletes, I think keep 1050 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 2: those rings in a safe deposit box. 1051 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 4: That's what they do. But I don't think they wear 1052 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 4: them all the time. 1053 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 5: I mean, no, you haven't break them out on special occasions, 1054 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. 1055 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 3: You only break it out. 1056 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 5: When it's the thing is not day to day where 1057 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,720 Speaker 5: it's special occasions. 1058 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 3: Because you got to remember, these things are heavy. They're 1059 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 3: like a paperweight. There's some girth to them. 1060 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 5: And as they started putting diamonds all over the place, Yeah, 1061 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 5: you gotta. 1062 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 3: Take care of Yeah, it's a fun conversation starter. 1063 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 4: That's basically what it is. Really it really is. 1064 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because I think the Kelsey's. We 1065 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 2: hear the Kelsey brothers were here in Cincinnati. They had 1066 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 2: some sort of a thing with the University of Cincinnati 1067 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 2: that came back. This is back in the fall, and 1068 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 2: it wasn't Travis, but it was his brother who played 1069 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 2: for the Eagles, and they had a contest, I think, 1070 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 2: to find a ring in a vat of chili, and 1071 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 2: he lost his Eagles championship ring. I guess the Eagles 1072 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 2: replaced it for him. Why he would even wear that 1073 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 2: at that event? And more than that, why would you 1074 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 2: stick your hand in a vat of a chili. Someone 1075 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 2: must have picked up his ring. They found it at 1076 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,959 Speaker 2: the bottom of that thing. I'm so must have picked 1077 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 2: it up and kept it. But still, in all I 1078 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 2: found that very strange. He was a little upset with that. 1079 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 4: That was a big deal. 1080 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 5: Well, you show it off because the think about it. 1081 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 5: The viewer in public normally doesn't see it ring up close. 1082 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 5: If there were kids involved, man, it may be enough 1083 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 5: to inspire them a little bit. If others involved, sometimes 1084 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 5: they can qualify yourself when it comes to certain positions 1085 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 5: that you're. 1086 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 3: In or whatever. You know, it's just one of those 1087 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: things like it. It's a nice show piece. 1088 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 4: There you go, all right, here we go. Let's get 1089 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 4: into this game right now. 1090 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: Let's get into who's gonna win and how they're gonna win. 1091 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 2: When the Philadelphia Eagles are passing the football, let's break 1092 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 2: this down a little bit right now. They got the 1093 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 2: quarterback Jalen Hurts one hundred and ninety three passing yards 1094 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 2: a game. 1095 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,879 Speaker 4: That's a career low for him. 1096 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 2: However, his one on three point five passing rating is 1097 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:41,919 Speaker 2: a career high. 1098 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 4: All right. 1099 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 2: I think that he thrives on the fact that everybody 1100 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 2: is gearing on Saquon Barkley, which kind of frees up his. 1101 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,280 Speaker 4: Ride receivers Brown and Smith. 1102 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 2: Maybe a little dink and dounk over there, I might 1103 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 2: correct with that, because everybody on the defensive side of 1104 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 2: the football is looking for, say, Kwan Barkley to get 1105 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 2: the ball and run. 1106 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it opens up everything. 1107 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 5: It gave them a natural packing order when it came 1108 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 5: to the offensive approach. Now you have to stop twenty 1109 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 5: six as the top priority. Well, that creates one on 1110 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 5: one opportunities on the outside if you try to do 1111 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 5: it with extra defenders and a. 1112 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 3: Lot of scrimmage. 1113 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 5: If you don't, they've shown their patient enough to discipline 1114 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 5: enough in detailed enough to. 1115 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 3: Watch the other team go up and down the field like. 1116 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 5: So to me, it is literally about taking advantage of 1117 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 5: the one on one opportunities on the outside. Facts He's 1118 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 5: gonna bless and make sure that he nullifies twenty six. 1119 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,760 Speaker 5: So this, to me is the game that Jayden Hurts 1120 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 5: and those guys have been waiting on. They're going to 1121 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 5: have an opportunity to get out the straight jacket, to 1122 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 5: throw it all over the yard a little bit, and 1123 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 5: let's see if they can be efficient enough to move 1124 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 5: about on the field. 1125 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 2: Right talk about the Chiefs right now of defending that 1126 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 2: Eagle's passion game, they're about I say, if you were 1127 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,720 Speaker 2: to rate the Chiefs, they're about average. 1128 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,839 Speaker 4: Going against the pass and the passing game. 1129 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 2: They do have that old pro corner a Trump mcduffy, 1130 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 2: But other than that, the defensively, Christian Jones is the guy, 1131 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 2: and I think the Eagles offensive line could kind of 1132 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,359 Speaker 2: keep him at bay. They really can. I would have 1133 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 2: to say right now that the Eagles have the advantage 1134 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 2: in the passing game today, and as far as passing 1135 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 2: the football, I give the edge to the Eagles right 1136 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 2: now over the Kansas City Chiefs. 1137 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 3: Wow, the Eagles huh death superior? Huh. 1138 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 2: Well, let's break down Kansas City's passing game right now. 1139 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 2: The average what he scrambles a lot mahomes right, He's 1140 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 2: averaging almost like almost ten yards per scramble. 1141 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 4: That's what he's doing. 1142 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 2: He's got a career low this year of six point 1143 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 2: two air yards per pass. All right, but again, you 1144 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,760 Speaker 2: don't know what he's going to do with the football 1145 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,919 Speaker 2: because he runs. He runs a lot, so and look, 1146 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 2: one play could change the outcome of this game. 1147 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,280 Speaker 4: It really can. But I still would take. 1148 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 2: The Eagles passing game over over the Chiefs in this area. 1149 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 2: I just I just think that they have more of 1150 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 2: a passing game, and honestly, the defense on Kansas City 1151 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 2: will have a tough time stopping and I don't think 1152 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 2: the defense besides they one cornerback that they have. Other 1153 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 2: than that, I think they're just an average defense defensively. 1154 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 5: In the secondary, they're ranked up there, they're pretty good. 1155 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 3: They do a great job stopping the run. 1156 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 5: I would say this, You're not far off when it 1157 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 5: comes to the Kansaity Chiefs offense. They're passing attack, they're 1158 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 5: pedestrian on the outside. They don't have enough speed in 1159 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 5: play making. The reason they popped thirty points on the 1160 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,399 Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills. They finally had Hollywood Brown to come back 1161 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 5: and join Zavie Worthy, and now they have more speed 1162 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 5: on the field that creates open easy lanes for Travis 1163 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,919 Speaker 5: Kelsey and others to get free. The other thing they're 1164 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 5: doing by kind of locking in and playing in a 1165 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 5: way like a little game will keep away. 1166 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 3: They shrink the clock and limit your plays. 1167 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 5: Their offense limits to plays that the opposing team's offense has, 1168 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 5: so you don't have enough time to really it at them. 1169 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 3: It's an interesting thing. 1170 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,479 Speaker 5: And the thing that throws me up when it comes 1171 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 5: to going all in on the Chiefs passing game is 1172 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 5: Vic fan Jaish eight against Pat Mahomes. Pat Mahomes slices 1173 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 5: and dices Vic Fangio's defense on the regular. What can 1174 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 5: Vic do differently after taking a straight losses to give 1175 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,720 Speaker 5: Pat Mahomes problems because if he had it, he already 1176 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 5: would have shown it. 1177 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 3: So what can you want to lab him come up with? 1178 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 3: That's really the key. 1179 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 4: So you'll leading to Kansas City in the passing game 1180 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 4: in a sense. 1181 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,439 Speaker 3: No, I mean, I mean, but here's the thing. 1182 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 5: Pat Mahomes is better than Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts has 1183 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,840 Speaker 5: better receivers, So which one matters more? The pitcher or 1184 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,320 Speaker 5: the catcher? I mean, if the pitcher doesn't hidden in 1185 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 5: the strike zones, then the catchers all out of sorts, 1186 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 5: so I'm more likely to go with the quarterback making 1187 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 5: a difference. 1188 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 3: So that's why I go with Pat Mahomes. 1189 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, I'd have to say in 1190 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 2: the playoffs, not just today's game, but in the playoffs 1191 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 2: in general, it's been more of a running then a 1192 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:01,720 Speaker 2: passing offense. 1193 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:02,840 Speaker 4: That's just the way it is. 1194 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 2: Maybe because of the climate they were playing like in Buffalo, 1195 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,879 Speaker 2: whatever it may be, but you talk about the running game, 1196 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 2: when the Eagles run the football, it's all Saquon Barkley's 1197 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 2: guy had over two thousand rushing yards and sixteen regular games. 1198 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 2: He set out that last game and the postseason three games, 1199 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 2: almost four hundred and fifty yards and five touchdowns in 1200 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 2: three games. So here's a guy that got a zero 1201 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 2: in in this guy. Kansas City is allowed only about 1202 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 2: four yards per carry, but a bottom ten stuff rate, 1203 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,399 Speaker 2: whatever that is. I read that bottom ten stuff rate 1204 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,359 Speaker 2: of opponent carries. So what is a stuff rate? 1205 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 3: I guess is a zero and negative. 1206 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 2: You're a game an opponent carries. I've read that somewhere. 1207 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 2: I'm trying to find out what it is. 1208 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1209 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 2: I got these stats making me crazy. But look, I 1210 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 2: think that Saquon Barkley is going to have some space 1211 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 2: to create some magic and some run today. So I'm 1212 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 2: not saying he's going to pick up two hundred yards, 1213 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 2: but easily getting one hundred yards today because he will 1214 00:53:58,880 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 2: have thirty carries. 1215 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think it's gonna happen because the 1216 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 5: Chiefs haven't given up a one hundred yard. 1217 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 3: Rusher to a running back in two years. Lamar Jackson top. 1218 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 5: To Mark, I think this season as a quarterback, but 1219 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 5: they do a great job of stopping running backs and 1220 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 5: they're gonna blitz every gap and make sure there's no crease. 1221 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 5: There's no creases, and they're gonna put the game on devins. 1222 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 5: Just know inspects and watching how he does, you can 1223 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 5: see a bunch of covers the rope blitzes early to 1224 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 5: get them behind the chains and if they getting behind 1225 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 5: the change, that's when the fun happens for the defense. 1226 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 2: Right, And I'll say this, You may be right that 1227 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 2: he may not gain one hundred yards, but with Saquon Barkley, 1228 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 2: all he needs to do is bust one, you know, 1229 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 2: for forty fifty sixty yards. 1230 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,399 Speaker 4: That's all he needs right, it's gonna happen. It will 1231 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 4: happen today. 1232 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 5: I mean, it'd be fun to see it happen. We 1233 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 5: just stn't normally see big runs in Super Bowls. 1234 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. Okay, let's talk about the Chiefs running 1235 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 2: game right now. Is say it, but Chaco. I wish 1236 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 2: the Bengals never let that guy go. I think he's 1237 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 2: a decent guy. He had a season injury in the 1238 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 2: middle of the season. Kareem Hunt came back in there, 1239 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 2: and look, he did well. When Kareem Hunt came back, 1240 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 2: he had more than nine hundred yards in thirteen games. 1241 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 2: So I don't think they match up to the Eagles 1242 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 2: in Saquon Barkley. But they got a pretty good one 1243 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 2: two punch they really do. Chris Pachiko's almost four yards 1244 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 2: to carry, all right. 1245 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a tough one to two punchs. 1246 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 5: They're physical, they're rugged, they run between the tackles. They 1247 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 5: have a little speed, not a lot of speed, but 1248 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 5: a little speed to kind of turn some of these 1249 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 5: five yar games into explosive plays. But what they are 1250 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 5: is their team that wins because they're disciplined in their patients. 1251 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 3: They're gonna stay true to who they are. 1252 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 5: They can be patient enough to wait for it to 1253 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 5: come back to them, and then they don't win it 1254 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 5: by doing those simple things, those little things better than 1255 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 5: the opponents. 1256 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,280 Speaker 2: All Right, here's something that a lot of people aren't 1257 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 2: talking about. I think the major conversation with the Super 1258 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 2: Bowl today is they're running games Saquon Barkley and things 1259 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 2: like that. I think special teams are a major, major, 1260 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 2: a major factor, and they will be a major factor 1261 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,840 Speaker 2: today in the game. And why do I say that 1262 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 2: Because I look at the kicking game of Jake Ellie. 1263 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 2: Jake Ellie was a Cincinnati Bengal for a while. He's 1264 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 2: been almost up and down as a kicker. This year 1265 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 2: with the Philadelphia Eagles. He missed eight field goals in 1266 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,760 Speaker 2: the regular season, a career worse for him through six games. 1267 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 2: I had from sixty from fifty yards, he missed three 1268 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 2: extra points. Look, he's a guy you're a little worried 1269 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 2: when he gets the ball. Just a little bit of 1270 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 2: worry over there. And this game could very well be 1271 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,840 Speaker 2: could fall down on a kicking, could fall down on 1272 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 2: the field goal right Harrison Bucke. He missed a month 1273 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 2: because of that leg injury, forty conversion rate on kicks 1274 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 2: from fifty plus a career worse for him, he's been 1275 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 2: a perfect nine for nine for four field goals five 1276 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 2: extra points in the playoffs. I still believe that it's 1277 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,879 Speaker 2: gonna be a factor today, the kicking game. 1278 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 3: The kicking game is always a factor. 1279 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 5: And there's a list of things and discounts from Bill Belichick, 1280 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 5: but he's talking about don't beat ourselves. The dbos as 1281 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 5: we refer to them, are no turnovers, eliminate the pre 1282 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 5: stamp of foolish penalties, no big plays allowed on the perimeter, 1283 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 5: and no kicking game errors. Don't allow people to flip 1284 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,760 Speaker 5: the field in the kicking game, big returns, block kicks, 1285 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 5: those things. Take care of your joe, your your role, 1286 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 5: your responsibility, and you do that in the kicking game, 1287 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 5: you can have a chance to be successful. 1288 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 2: Interesting, and the punting game is not much better for 1289 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 2: Philadelphia really. 1290 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 5: No, I mean you want you want defensive guys on 1291 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 5: punt and your coverage teams. You want your best defensive 1292 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 5: guys that can do it because the play is too 1293 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 5: important to just throw it away. So everyone that plays offense, 1294 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 5: that plays the defensive position needs to learn one of 1295 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 5: these punt return positions. 1296 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so I need the Chiefs. Chiefs get the edge 1297 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 2: in the kicking game, Eagles went punting. Okay, so we'll 1298 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 2: do that, and right now, I think the edge is 1299 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 2: still going a little towards the Eagles. Right now, I 1300 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 2: really believe that. The coaching situation, you know, I'm not 1301 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 2: so certain. I mean, you got Andy Reid, He's got 1302 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 2: the experience, Siriani. I think he's a great motivator. I'm 1303 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 2: not saying Read's not a great motivator. You know him 1304 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 2: better than anybody. But I just think that they believe 1305 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 2: in Andy Reid. This team has been there, done that, 1306 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,959 Speaker 2: and even if they fall behind, they know they could 1307 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:17,439 Speaker 2: come back. 1308 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 4: Sirianni's more emotional. 1309 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's something to the right. 1310 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 5: With experience comes expertise, and the people are willing to 1311 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 5: bank on his experience leading them out. 1312 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 3: That's why it's done. 1313 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 5: The age thing when it comes to being a head 1314 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 5: coach is about a connectivity thing. He's well connected with 1315 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 5: his players. They appreciate and respect what he says to meet. 1316 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 5: That's everything you want to hear as a code. 1317 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 2: Okay, Now, momentum doesn't mean much coming into this game. 1318 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1319 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 2: Chiefs are seventeen and one in games in Mahomes' start 1320 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 2: of this year. They're twelve and zero in games decided 1321 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,919 Speaker 2: by eight points or less, whatever that means. But there's 1322 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 2: a team right now that's got a lot of confidence 1323 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 2: coming into this game. Right now, however, the two running 1324 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 2: backs average almost like three or three point four yards 1325 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 2: to carry against the Bills, and they gained just sixty 1326 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 2: two rushing yards against the Houston Texans. That's not a 1327 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 2: good thing. That's not a good thing coming into today's game. 1328 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 5: No, it's a good thing, but it's temporary. I mean 1329 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 5: it may change like it's not a good thing though. 1330 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 2: That great, all right, So what do you think? Now, 1331 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 2: let's go back here. Here's the bottom line. Who wins 1332 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 2: the game? I would say this Chiefs, And if you 1333 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 2: always said this as well, the Chiefs have been there before. 1334 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 2: Maybe they've been there too many times in the minds 1335 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 2: of many their sixty first game in a three year span, 1336 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 2: most in NFL history. That twelve to zero record in 1337 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 2: one score games would be unintenable for most teams. But 1338 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 2: it's a lot of evidence that Kansas City. We give 1339 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 2: them the benefit of the doubt. You've done that. I've 1340 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 2: done it right now, you've told me into it. I 1341 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,120 Speaker 2: still think though the Eagles personnel top to bottom, are 1342 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 2: a better team. I think it's going to be close. 1343 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 2: I'm taking the Eagles to win this game. 1344 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 5: The Eagles are the more talented team. The Eagles are 1345 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 5: the more emotional team. A lot of time, when emotion 1346 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 5: comes in, execution goes out. Can the Philadelphia Eagles keep 1347 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 5: their emotions in check to finish the deal? That's really 1348 01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 5: what it comes down to. I a believer that the 1349 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 5: Kansaity Chiefs are gonna win. They've done two in a row. 1350 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 5: They've won a ton of games that are low scoring games. 1351 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 5: They've won an improbable ways this year. That makes them 1352 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 5: better prepared for the tournament, particularly this game. 1353 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 3: They just have a knack for getting it done. 1354 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 5: And some of us can't quantify it because there's just 1355 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 5: a feel. But their confidence as a champion is unwavering, 1356 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 5: and I think over time you buy it to the mystique. 1357 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 5: When you stand across and you look, you see number 1358 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 5: fifteen with his hands on the ball and two minutes 1359 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 5: left in the game within a one score situation. Yeah, 1360 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 5: you don't believe that you can get it done. And 1361 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 5: I feel like that's going to be the difference in 1362 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 5: this one. 1363 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 2: Okay, And I'll leave you with this. I think if 1364 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 2: the Eagles trailing at the half, they're in trouble. I 1365 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 2: think if Kansas City's trunning at the half, they know 1366 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 2: if they've been there, done that, they could come back. 1367 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 5: You can't put prop becks in the middle of analysis 1368 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 5: like oh, if this and if that, and you know, 1369 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 5: if this color, if the gatorade is pinked, and that 1370 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 5: means no, like picotine the Eagles, that's who you're rolling with. 1371 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going with Eagles, I am, And obviously you're 1372 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,720 Speaker 2: going Kansas City, just like we do all the time 1373 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 2: in batt Bana Baro betting. 1374 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 4: That's what we do, all right, Always take the opposite. 1375 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 4: He's Bucky Brooks. 1376 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 2: Get him on X at Bucky Brooks, We'll read him, 1377 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 2: we'll retweet him at Swollen Dome. 1378 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 4: Who's that? 1379 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 2: That's Mike Harmon will join us next hour at Andy 1380 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 2: Fourman FSR and your calls as well. We love to 1381 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 2: hear from the people in Kansas City, love to hear 1382 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 2: the people in Philadelphia. Eight seven seven ninety nine on 1383 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 2: Fox eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six, sixty three sixty nine. 1384 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 2: Are they greasing the poles in Philadelphia if they win? 1385 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 2: So no one kills themselves? 1386 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 4: All right? 1387 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 2: Bona barrel betting this hour, As mentioned the Swollen Dome himself, 1388 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Mike Harmon will join us eight a m Eastern right here. 1389 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 4: But just how big are these Eagles? That's next? 1390 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 2: Have you seen anything this big? That's coming right up? 1391 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks. 1392 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 4: I'm Ay Firmer. 1393 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 2: We are Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. It's 1394 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 2: Super Bowl sund there right now. Be sure to check 1395 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 2: out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Y check it out, 1396 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 2: especially this weekend. There's a ton of great videos from 1397 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 2: this week alone. Has Fox Sports Radios live this week 1398 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 2: from Super Bowl Week in New Orleans. All of our 1399 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 2: videos from the great big name interviews can be found 1400 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 2: on our YouTube page. 1401 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 4: Just search Fox Sports. 1402 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 2: Radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole bunch of 1403 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 2: video highlights from all of the shows. And be sure 1404 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 2: to subscribe so you always have instant access to our 1405 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. And we're live from 1406 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 2: the tire rack dot Com studios. Now let's get into 1407 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 2: this Sat Quon Barkley had an MVP season. We know that, 1408 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 2: but he didn't do it alone. He runhs for over 1409 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 2: two thousand yards, and his offensive line opened the holes 1410 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,640 Speaker 2: for him. Bucky Brooks would say, Quon have the same 1411 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 2: six says on another team with maybe not such a 1412 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 2: strong offensive line. 1413 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 5: No, the offensive line matters, It matters significantly. The Eagles 1414 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 5: have one of the best offensive lines in football. That 1415 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 5: doesn't take away from Saquon Barkley's talents. He's amazing. It's 1416 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 5: just that it's the perfect combination. It's the perfect storm. 1417 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 5: Great offensive line, great running back, you have talented playmakers 1418 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 5: on the outside. So it really puts defensive coordinators in 1419 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 5: the buying when picking and choosing how to defend them. 1420 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 5: He's terrific, But those two thousand yards we're seeing here 1421 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 5: might have been only twelve to thirteen hundred with the Giants, 1422 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,959 Speaker 5: you know, and maybe somewhere in that range somewhere else. 1423 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 5: But he's certainly been enhanced by having a great offensive 1424 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 5: line that has helped him kind of make his moves. 1425 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 2: Okay, and I'm glad you brought that up, because not 1426 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 2: only are they great, We're gonna find out right now 1427 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 2: why are they so great? Because offensive linemen traditionally and 1428 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 2: typically are the largest players in football, right, But you 1429 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 2: look at the Philadelphia Eagles, they go one step bigger. 1430 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 4: They go one step even bigger. 1431 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 2: The five starting linemen on average stand at six foot 1432 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 2: six and they weigh three into thirty eight pounds. They 1433 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 2: are more than an inch taller and twenty six pounds 1434 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 2: heavier than the line on the Kansas City Chiefs. That's big, 1435 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 2: all right, And I think what the Philadelphia Eagles do. 1436 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 2: They go out of their way to pick big linemen 1437 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,919 Speaker 2: because that's this style of play they like to run 1438 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,439 Speaker 2: the football, and when you got a guy six six 1439 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 2: three thirty eight makes it a lot easier to make 1440 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 2: those holes a little bigger. 1441 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 3: I mean, without a question. 1442 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 5: Nick Saban, Bill Belichick, a couple other coaches subscribe to 1443 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 5: this theory that there's a reason why you don't put 1444 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 5: middle weights in heavyweights in the same boxing ring. 1445 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 3: Over time, the. 1446 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 5: Physicality, the superior weight difference differential between the heavyweight in 1447 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 5: the middleweight would eventually lead to middleweight to get knocked out. 1448 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 5: When you have a big, physical offensive line that can 1449 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 5: lean on you and move you for four quarters, it 1450 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,880 Speaker 5: wears you down. And that's what the Philadelphia Eagles have done. 1451 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 5: They got a massive offensive line, they put a talented 1452 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 5: running back behind them, and we've seen what takes place. 1453 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 5: He's put up ridiculous numbers. 1454 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 2: And let's find out who are these guys? Okay, one 1455 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 2: of them is a Jordan Mulatta. Okay, this guy is 1456 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 2: six ' eight, he weighs three sixty five and I 1457 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 2: looked this up. He played rugby. He was a rugby 1458 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 2: player in Sydney, Australia. Before the Eagles took a chance 1459 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 2: on this guy in the seventh round of the twenty 1460 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 2: eighteen NFL Draft. 1461 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 4: This year, he was a second team All Pro. How 1462 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:46,800 Speaker 4: does that happen? 1463 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 2: How does a personnel guy or a scout know that 1464 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 2: a six foot eight rugby player is going to be 1465 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 2: a great offensive lineman in the NFL? 1466 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 4: How does that happen? 1467 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 5: Well, some of the skills transfer, right, So you think 1468 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 5: about rugby, some of the tackling, the body of the body, contact, 1469 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 5: the leverage, those things, the athleticism that's required to play 1470 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 5: in rugby. 1471 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:10,440 Speaker 3: You love that. 1472 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 5: And even though you're projecting him to be an offensive lineman, 1473 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 5: you can just see there's something that he's going to 1474 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 5: be able to do because he's had to be able 1475 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 5: to run around and. 1476 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 3: Be physical in rugby games. 1477 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 5: Then it's about your player development program. 1478 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 3: Jeff Stalin is a look. 1479 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 5: He's known as the old line Guru currently in the league. 1480 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 5: You give him that kind of like tools and talent 1481 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 5: to work with, he'll reshape them and bank them into 1482 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 5: a solid player. 1483 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 3: And that's what has happened with my lotta. 1484 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 2: Now, who is this other guy in the offensive line? 1485 01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 2: Call a Mountain Becden, big ticket Highway seventy seven. 1486 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:51,280 Speaker 4: What's his name? Becton? Mechai Becton? Is that him, Mecky Becton. 1487 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, McKai Beckton, former number one pick from the New 1488 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 5: York Jets, massive guy coming out of Louisville. Underachieved in 1489 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 5: New York. But they put him at guard. Say this man, 1490 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 5: coaching matters. Coaching matters not only from a tactical sense, 1491 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 5: but from a motivational sense. Uh, they got Makai backed 1492 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 5: then on board. He's surrounded by players that are talented 1493 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,120 Speaker 5: and so he is a competitor and everybody who who 1494 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 5: plays at a level is a competitor. And he looks 1495 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 5: around and he's like, look, I gotta earn my I 1496 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,160 Speaker 5: gott to earn my keep. I got to figure out 1497 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 5: a way to stay relevant, or not i'd be on 1498 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,400 Speaker 5: the bench. And you know, sometimes everyone talks about competition. 1499 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 3: That's what competition does. Brings up amazing. 1500 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 2: He was a first rounder by the Jets what as 1501 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 2: a tackle back in twenty twenty, but he was weighing 1502 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 2: like four hundred pounds. Goes to the Eagles. Right now 1503 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 2: he slims down to three sixty three. He's six seven, 1504 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 2: all right. So if I'm an NFL guy, and I 1505 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 2: if I'm a personel guy, and look, I'm not going 1506 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 2: to use a first round draft pick on this, but 1507 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,919 Speaker 2: I want to protect my quarterback. And I remember, way 1508 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,320 Speaker 2: back in the day when the Cincinnti Bengals were formed, 1509 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 2: the very first draft pick, the first player ever on 1510 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 2: the Cincinni was an offensive center. Because I remember with 1511 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,439 Speaker 2: the late Paul Brown, and he wrote this in his book, 1512 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,960 Speaker 2: he said, what's what's up front that counts? And you 1513 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,440 Speaker 2: gotta have an offensive line. It starts everything. Everything starts 1514 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 2: with the offensive line. And I guess the Philadelphia Eagles 1515 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 2: figure that out because it's working. 1516 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have figured it out. And they they've done 1517 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 3: it a long time. 1518 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,600 Speaker 5: But I'm gonna say this, they started figuring out the 1519 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,880 Speaker 5: trench play and the Andy Reid and the tradition has continued. 1520 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 5: If you go and you look at the Philippi Eagles 1521 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,840 Speaker 5: drafts consistently, they always take a big within the first 1522 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 5: two picks, meaning first two rounds. They've invested significantly in 1523 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,840 Speaker 5: the trenches, which allows them to dominate upfront on both 1524 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:39,639 Speaker 5: sides of the ball. 1525 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,919 Speaker 3: This is what they do. This is the blueprint. 1526 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:43,680 Speaker 5: This is the blueprint that has been successful for the 1527 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,680 Speaker 5: longest time in the league. Strong running game, with a 1528 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 5: dominant offensive line, electric passing game, don't turn it over, 1529 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:53,760 Speaker 5: make plays, and you have a chance to win. 1530 01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:54,639 Speaker 3: That's what they've done. 1531 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 2: Okay, Now I'm kind of a statistical nut, but I 1532 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 2: think they go above and beyond in the National Football 1533 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 2: League with some of these metrics and stats. 1534 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,640 Speaker 4: I read this one over here and said, this season. 1535 01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:09,799 Speaker 2: The Philadelphia Eagles led the NFL with twenty eleven rushing 1536 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,759 Speaker 2: yards before the bull carrier ran into an opposing defender, 1537 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,599 Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety yards more than any other team. 1538 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 2: On Saquon Barkley's runs, he averaged three point eight yards 1539 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 2: before contact per rush, meaning that he has had so 1540 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 2: much space that he's gaining a lot thanks to the 1541 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 2: territory before anyone even lays a hand on this guy. 1542 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. 1543 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,280 Speaker 2: So because of those big guys, they're making that space 1544 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 2: for him. 1545 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's like being a plan on a runway. If 1546 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,680 Speaker 5: you can clear space, I'm gonna take off. And that's 1547 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 5: what he's done. 1548 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:44,599 Speaker 3: They created. 1549 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:49,120 Speaker 5: This is a vision where he said, just you know, look, 1550 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 5: we're just gonna run this at them. They know it's coming, 1551 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,080 Speaker 5: we know it's coming, but we feel like we've been 1552 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:53,439 Speaker 5: in here. 1553 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 4: That's what happens. 1554 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:59,600 Speaker 2: It's really amazing because that statistic right there marks the 1555 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:04,080 Speaker 2: higher yards before contact for any running back with one 1556 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 2: thousand yards in a season since twenty sixteen, according to 1557 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:12,120 Speaker 2: Pro Football Reference. Derek Henry, by the way, the NFL 1558 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,760 Speaker 2: second leading rusher this year, averaged just three point one 1559 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 2: yards per pre contact. So the offensive line does make 1560 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 2: a difference, and I got to believe that with the 1561 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,680 Speaker 2: success that the Eagles have had with the run game, 1562 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 2: and obviously Barkley's a big factor of that, people are 1563 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 2: gonn to be looking to draft or obtain maybe through 1564 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 2: free agency. Whoever, it may be bigger and stronger guys 1565 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,600 Speaker 2: and heavier guys on the offensive line. Now, when you 1566 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,320 Speaker 2: played the game, what was the average way perhaps of 1567 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,759 Speaker 2: an offensive lineman two fifty two thirty never over three hundred, right. 1568 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 5: I mean they were close hit guys that would be big. 1569 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 5: But the difference is is to the girth and the athleticism. Differently, 1570 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 5: Before you see big guys, but they couldn't move, and 1571 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,240 Speaker 5: now you're seeing big guys that could move to a 1572 01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 5: nimble Uh. 1573 01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 3: That's the game change. 1574 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 2: It's something else. I mean I went back and looked 1575 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,920 Speaker 2: at this thing called stats. According to stats, when the 1576 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 2: Chiefs took on the Green Bay Packers and the very 1577 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,559 Speaker 2: first Super Bowl, the starting offensive lineman and those teams 1578 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 2: weighed an average of two point fifty two and not 1579 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,040 Speaker 2: one of them was. 1580 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 4: Even two seventy five. That's amazing. It's amazing how things change. 1581 01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 4: It really is. 1582 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,719 Speaker 2: I mean, now, all of a sudden, we could honestly say, 1583 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,800 Speaker 2: several years ago they wanted to eliminate the running game. 1584 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,920 Speaker 2: They want to eliminate the position of the running back. 1585 01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,680 Speaker 2: It's come back now. I mean, look who's happening in 1586 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 2: the National Football League, and it is like a copycat league. 1587 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,880 Speaker 2: You're going to see more and more teams go to 1588 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,120 Speaker 2: the running game next year. 1589 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:39,640 Speaker 4: I just know it. That's just the way it is. 1590 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I mean it is just tweeted now when 1591 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 5: you're talking about the quarterback run game, like you just 1592 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 5: got to protect them. How do you protect them if 1593 01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 5: you're going to run them? How do you tell them 1594 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 5: to get down to avoid the big hit? Because we 1595 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 5: all know if you don't have a quarterback, you don't 1596 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:52,719 Speaker 5: have a chance. 1597 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,719 Speaker 2: To me, you look at some of the great blockers 1598 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,800 Speaker 2: and they have a list over here. I'm looking at 1599 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 2: for the stats, the great blockers, the arch shellves of 1600 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,840 Speaker 2: the world. He was only six five two sixty five. 1601 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,800 Speaker 2: Gene Upshua six five two fifty five. It's amazing. I'll 1602 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 2: think change. Look, and I wouldn't say these guys are fat. 1603 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,479 Speaker 2: They're just they're somewhat big. You know, they're nimble that 1604 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:16,720 Speaker 2: they can move on. There. 1605 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,120 Speaker 4: The light on their feet for the amount of weight 1606 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 4: that they carry. 1607 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah they are. 1608 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 5: Look there, they're light on their feet for the way 1609 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 5: that they carry. But it's about the cumuative effect of 1610 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 5: dealing with the big offensive line. It's about just taking 1611 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 5: those body blows time and time again and then being on. 1612 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 3: You got to be on. 1613 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 5: But I'll say this, it's the great equalizer and sports, 1614 01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,000 Speaker 5: and that is physicality and toughness. If you have a 1615 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,840 Speaker 5: big physical team, a big physical offensive line, and not 1616 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 5: only sets the tone for your offense, but it sets 1617 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,400 Speaker 5: the tone for the rest of the team. 1618 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 3: Look, it depends on how you fancy yourself. 1619 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 5: If you're a blue color team and you're unable to run, 1620 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,559 Speaker 5: you have no chance because you've gotta be You have 1621 01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,720 Speaker 5: to be able to line up and smoke people physically 1622 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,920 Speaker 5: three four yards at a time to be able to 1623 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,000 Speaker 5: win the biggest games. 1624 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,559 Speaker 2: Okay, we know we got Sakwon backing number one, Derek 1625 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 2: Henry number two. Here's a question for you. Let's get 1626 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,120 Speaker 2: Joe Mixon behind the Philadelphia Eagles line. Would he gain 1627 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 2: two thousand yards? 1628 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,559 Speaker 5: He might not get two thousand, but he would be close. 1629 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 5: He's a good player, He was a good player, continues 1630 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 5: to be a good player. Yeah, I can see him 1631 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,200 Speaker 5: getting close because he'd be tearing it up. 1632 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you right there. 1633 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,960 Speaker 2: I just believe that you get a good offensive line 1634 01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,680 Speaker 2: with a good running back together, you got some You 1635 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 2: got something cooking. 1636 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 4: Over there, you really do. All right, let's look look 1637 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,640 Speaker 4: some of the big matchups today. All right, A J. 1638 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,639 Speaker 2: Brown going against Trent McDuffie, the all pro corner. Okay, 1639 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 2: how does that going to shape out? I'm gonna give 1640 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 2: you somebody these matchups today that we look for in 1641 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,759 Speaker 2: this game. AJ Brown Trent McDuffie's gonna. 1642 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:52,960 Speaker 3: Be a big one. Repeat it. Just like you said, 1643 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:53,679 Speaker 3: A Brown. 1644 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 5: A J. 1645 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 4: Brown going against Trent McDuffie. 1646 01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 5: So to me, this is all about the pastor's being 1647 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,600 Speaker 5: solid with Chris Jones. Trimmy duffie is gonna hold up 1648 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,800 Speaker 5: on his own. The problem that you have with AJ 1649 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:06,719 Speaker 5: Brown two hundred. 1650 01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,720 Speaker 3: And twenty five pounds. He wants to engage in a 1651 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,120 Speaker 3: like fisticuffs on the perimeter. 1652 01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,880 Speaker 5: Trim mc duffie has to use a different style to 1653 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 5: shadow him around now as physical, maybe more finesse, but 1654 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,040 Speaker 5: stay in his hip pocket. To me, the advantage goes 1655 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 5: to A J. Brown in terms of the talent. But 1656 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,680 Speaker 5: now you got to deal with the timing and all 1657 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,560 Speaker 5: that other stuff. But I still say it goes to 1658 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:28,200 Speaker 5: AJ Brown the. 1659 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,280 Speaker 2: Eagles all right, And last but not least if the 1660 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,240 Speaker 2: Chiefs are gonna stop sequon Barkley, then Chris Jones has 1661 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,040 Speaker 2: to be a big time force up the middle. 1662 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:36,360 Speaker 4: What's gonna happen with that one? 1663 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:36,719 Speaker 3: Today? 1664 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,840 Speaker 5: They gonna commit to forcing the new wind through the air, 1665 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,680 Speaker 5: and DeVante Smith's gonna have plenty of opportunities. If he 1666 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 5: wins on the outside, he not only bounces out the offense, 1667 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 5: but he is in line to be the MVP. 1668 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 3: Keep it out on Devonte Smith? Maybe unlikely MVP. 1669 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,519 Speaker 4: How do you like that? I like that a lot? 1670 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 4: All right? 1671 01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,800 Speaker 2: He is Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Frevan. We are Fox 1672 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 2: Fotball Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. We're coming to the 1673 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 2: finish line. Yes we are. What does that mean? Bottom 1674 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,719 Speaker 2: barrel betting. It's freaking next bottom barrel betting right around 1675 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 2: the corner about eleven minutes before the top of the hour. 1676 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:13,840 Speaker 4: He's Bucky Brokes. 1677 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,479 Speaker 2: I'm Andy Firmer, and we are Fox Football Sunday and 1678 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,840 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, and of course we're live from the 1679 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,280 Speaker 2: TAIRAQ dot Com studios. We've got a game to play. 1680 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,719 Speaker 2: We're not going to do it much more, but let's 1681 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:33,679 Speaker 2: do it right now. All right, say shame, We're coming 1682 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,920 Speaker 2: out to the funnel. I guess tally, if you will? 1683 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 4: Is that it? And then we move on? 1684 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1685 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 7: I mean we'll still bring it back every once in 1686 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,120 Speaker 7: a while, but we won't be doing it every week 1687 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,240 Speaker 7: because there are too many games that we have. And Andy, 1688 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,720 Speaker 7: your people don't know this, but you're creator of a 1689 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 7: lot of great games, and we we need the people 1690 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:53,640 Speaker 7: to know. 1691 01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:55,080 Speaker 3: We need the people know. 1692 01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 7: But we don't got a lot of time, so let's 1693 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 7: get through this quick. We usually do the leagues from 1694 01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,800 Speaker 7: around the world world, but because it's the Super Bowl, 1695 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,439 Speaker 7: I'd be remiss to not have the super Bowl. But 1696 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 7: there are fun things within the Super Bowl that we 1697 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:12,200 Speaker 7: can bet on. So let's start off. Last week, Andy, 1698 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:17,120 Speaker 7: you won three Bucky two, leading the score to Andy 1699 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,400 Speaker 7: forty seven Bucky fifty two. Andy needs to go five 1700 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,880 Speaker 7: oh here to tie, So let's see if you can 1701 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:24,280 Speaker 7: do it? 1702 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:25,000 Speaker 3: All right, Andy? 1703 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,479 Speaker 8: Okay, coin toss. 1704 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 7: The result of the coin toss for Super Bowl fifty 1705 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,920 Speaker 7: nine both are minus one ten Bucky. Let's start with you. 1706 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:34,720 Speaker 3: What you got? 1707 01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,040 Speaker 8: Oh, tales never feels, Tales never fails? 1708 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,880 Speaker 4: All right, Andy, Well, I guess I'll go with heads. 1709 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 7: Tales never fails. Is that like an athlete thing. I've 1710 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:43,680 Speaker 7: never heard that. 1711 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,240 Speaker 3: I like that. Really, Yeah, there's a thing like you 1712 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:47,920 Speaker 3: always you always call I like that. 1713 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna see if they call tails today. Do you 1714 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:51,240 Speaker 4: like that? 1715 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:55,519 Speaker 8: Next one? 1716 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 7: How long will it take? Trombone Shorty and Lauren Daigle, 1717 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:04,680 Speaker 7: sing America? The beautiful over one hundred point five seconds 1718 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 7: is minus one twenty five or an under is minus 1719 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 7: one oh five. 1720 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:10,960 Speaker 8: Andy, let's start with you over. 1721 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:15,519 Speaker 2: Definitely over. They want that airtime over, Bucky. 1722 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,719 Speaker 5: I mean, I can't say over because that would agree 1723 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 5: with him. But he's right. I'm gonna take the under. 1724 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:24,519 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the under, and. 1725 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:25,920 Speaker 8: The underhits on that same times. 1726 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:32,640 Speaker 3: You say that's not enough, that's like a minute and 1727 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:33,559 Speaker 3: a half. I needmore. 1728 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:39,439 Speaker 8: That's not enough, So under locked in taking the under? 1729 01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:40,640 Speaker 8: Locked in? All right? 1730 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 7: First offensive play of the game, will it be a 1731 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,960 Speaker 7: run play or pass play? Run plays minus one sixty 1732 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,320 Speaker 7: five and a pass play is plus one twenty five. 1733 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,840 Speaker 4: Andy, it's gonna be a run play, especially if the 1734 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,240 Speaker 4: Eagles guy is gonna be Barkley. You know that run play? 1735 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,320 Speaker 8: Okay, Andy, that's a good choice, Bucky. 1736 01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:04,280 Speaker 9: Mm hmm, pass past fast, fast, Okay, everybody passing. 1737 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 8: I like it. You guys are going opposite here. This 1738 01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 8: is good, This is good. 1739 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 7: How many outfit changes will Kendrick Lamar make? Big big 1740 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,800 Speaker 7: fan of Kendrick Maar excited to see that halftime show? 1741 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,559 Speaker 7: Are you really over one and a half plus one 1742 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,839 Speaker 7: sixty five or and the under is minus one two twenty? 1743 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:26,680 Speaker 8: So Bucky over one and a half under one and 1744 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:27,080 Speaker 8: a half. 1745 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,040 Speaker 3: So the unders one and a half is the line? 1746 01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, one and a half is the line. Over is 1747 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,240 Speaker 7: plus one sixty five, under is minus two twenty. 1748 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:41,280 Speaker 9: Kim's lamar, So that's a dude. Gods don't normally change outfits. 1749 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,160 Speaker 9: Let's the line that's pretty low, one and a half. Yeah, 1750 01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,960 Speaker 9: let's go over. Casey changes a T shirt? 1751 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know he's gonna change because maybe he's sweating 1752 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,000 Speaker 4: in the T shirt. That's a change too, you know. 1753 01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,080 Speaker 4: But uh, I was gonna go over. I'll go on 1754 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:56,479 Speaker 4: because I didn't want to go with Bucky. 1755 01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,320 Speaker 7: Why are you guys doing this? You don't you don't 1756 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,200 Speaker 7: got to be nice to each other. You're going for 1757 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,640 Speaker 7: the win, you know, going over? Yeah, I don't know. 1758 01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,240 Speaker 7: I don't like this. I'm going go with your heart 1759 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 7: the last one. Yes, you're going for the win. Andy, 1760 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,519 Speaker 7: you're trying to go five. Oh, what's going on? 1761 01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:12,920 Speaker 4: You're right? Thank you, thank you? 1762 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:14,000 Speaker 3: Wake up? 1763 01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 7: What will happen to the price of bitcoin during the 1764 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,880 Speaker 7: Super Bowl? The price goes up is minus one thirty five. 1765 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,840 Speaker 7: The price goes down is plus one oh five, and. 1766 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,679 Speaker 4: It goes down, all right down. 1767 01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,360 Speaker 3: I don't know what what is the tattoo? Like? I 1768 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:30,840 Speaker 3: guess it goes up, but I don't know why we 1769 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:31,360 Speaker 3: go up. 1770 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,760 Speaker 7: It's just it was the most random bad I this 1771 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:37,840 Speaker 7: stupid there. 1772 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,559 Speaker 8: Really, that's the most weird batting money on money? It 1773 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:41,080 Speaker 8: was cool? 1774 01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,599 Speaker 4: Something else? Can you get a replacement for that one? 1775 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:43,640 Speaker 3: No? 1776 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,120 Speaker 4: No, you want me to? 1777 01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:50,599 Speaker 7: I can. I can look for a new one. If 1778 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:51,679 Speaker 7: it's okay with that. 1779 01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:52,760 Speaker 4: Okay, let it go. That's it. 1780 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,040 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens next week. All right, here we 1781 01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,240 Speaker 2: go the swallow Dome. Mike Harmon joins you next right 1782 01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:59,240 Speaker 2: here on Fox