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Speaker 2: So Michael Very Show is on the air. Go for it. Body,

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Speaker 2: you ain't got no job. You're young and you got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, unless you want to work forty hours a week,

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Speaker 2: Man, Hey, man, I wish I could man stuff I equipment.

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Speaker 2: The whole place would fall apart without man.

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Speaker 3: I'm need it there, man.

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Speaker 1: Responsibility is a heavy responsibility.

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Speaker 2: Man, I don't like my job, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna go?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, won't you get fired? I don't know, but I

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Speaker 1: Blessed Soul is preparing for his career. Colic Carnival gotta

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah. Last season he was a dricty dust

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Speaker 2: spreader on a Teltic world. He thinks that maybe next

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Speaker 2: I need a different job.

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Speaker 1: I'm having real trouble in a confined indoor space. How

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Speaker 2: What else do you have?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna lose my job, Pilot, and I just calm down.

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Speaker 1: I don't know fo I killed the boss.

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Speaker 3: You think they're not gonna fire me for a thing

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Speaker 2: Lauren, you're on the Michael Berry Show.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, dear Hi, how are you doing this morning?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 1: I want to reach out to the city of Houston. So,

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Speaker 1: my cousin, Kenneth Cutting, was one of the bodies that

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Speaker 1: So why this is so important to me is this

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Speaker 1: and there's forty of them that are undetermined autopsies. For

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Speaker 1: investigations for all of these people. It is so important.

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Speaker 1: My cousin is just one person here. There's all these

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Speaker 2: So, Lauren, let me ask you a couple of questions

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Speaker 2: about your cousin. How old was he when he died?

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Speaker 1: So, my cousin was twenty two when.

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Speaker 2: He died, twenty two, and he was found in what value?

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Speaker 1: He was found in Buffalo by you and East River whereabouts?

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Speaker 2: Do you know like a cross street?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that exact address is thirty three hundred Sweeney Street.

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Speaker 1: S W I N E Y s W O.

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Speaker 1: He was discovered floating, But who discovered My understanding is

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Speaker 2: But he was wearing his blue jeans, still had his underwear,

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Speaker 1: That's right. So the weird part about this is is

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Speaker 1: Uh No, we actually I have gone full detective on

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Speaker 2: One of these women are chief Michael Mary. I think

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Speaker 1: Because I got nothing going on down there.

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Speaker 2: Probably Lauren. Yes, I'm here, try to pick up. I

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Speaker 1: His name is Kenneth Cutting?

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Speaker 2: Was that on the east side? How far from the from.

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Speaker 1: So the way that they were headed where they said

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Speaker 2: So they claim they drove him and dropped it.

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Speaker 1: Did he have a vehicle, No, they were all together.

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Speaker 2: Was he romantic associated with these guys or what was

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Speaker 1: He sure was. He was definitely a part of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it also makes it far more likely there's foul

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Speaker 2: was he involved with both of the dudes, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: he was, Okay, And how old were they they were?

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Speaker 1: For that age group, right. I remember being in my

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it varies a lot, and I think

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Speaker 2: how can we help you? And I was like, hold on,

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Speaker 2: I'm nervous, and they said it's fine, take your time.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, we'd like to have dinner. Okay.

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Speaker 2: What did they respond? They said, okay, I need some details.

444
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: And I said, okay, hold on, I'm getting nervous. Okay, good,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna you have a lot of anxiety attacks, right, yeah,

446
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: you're gonna fit in great here. Okay, yeah, thank you, Okay.

447
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: Feel I feel like I'm in a safe space already. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So I said, yeah, we want to a meal and

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00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: they said, okay, let's start with what day? And I

450
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: was like, oh, you're triggering me, you're pressuring me. Oh

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Speaker 2: that's good. Good, good. You fought for yourself. You fought

452
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Speaker 2: that you're gonna be a good co leader of clear

453
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: bi directional communication channels across teams. I can already see.

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Speaker 2: You've got our skill set that we need. Oh good, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I feel very safe right now, very safe, but still

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Speaker 2: still anxious. Don't worry. Take your time. We have all

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Speaker 2: the time in the world. We never get anything done anyway.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So they said what day, and I said, okay, stop

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Speaker 2: yelling and they said, we're not yelling, and I said,

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Speaker 2: it feels like you're yelling, and that makes it yelling. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Good again, you're standing up for yourself. You're drawing boundaries.

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Speaker 2: This is good. You're gonna be a continas. Lena's gonna

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Speaker 2: love you. Lena's gonna love you on this team. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So then they wanted to day and I said I

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Speaker 2: don't know yet, and they said, well, now you're screaming,

467
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: and I said, I get the scream. And they said, okay,

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00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: well just hold on, let's figure it out. And I

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Speaker 2: was like, I'll figure it out. You're scaring me. And

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Speaker 2: then so I said hold on and I put them

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Speaker 2: on hold and I had to breathe and I had

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Speaker 2: to pet my cat. Oh, you're gonna be very good.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that we need help with is

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Speaker 2: Lina's katz. Would you be willing to pat Lina's cats

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Speaker 2: very much. So yes, more cats Marrier. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: you know I can tell you this. I can go

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Speaker 2: ahead and tell you we're gonna hire you. You are good,

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00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: you are ready for our team. I can already this

479
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: is gonna be a great fit, great fit. I tell you,

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00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: just just wonderful. And there you have it, and there

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Speaker 2: you have it. I love this email, and you're gonna

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Speaker 2: love it too. Jan rights. You know, girls aren't named

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Speaker 2: jan anymore, or Janet for that matter. I don't know

484
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Speaker 2: if it's short for Jana. She's Her name is Jan Lithworre,

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00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: she writes, going to d C with a Democrat. We

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Speaker 2: leave on November sixth to see DC for the first time.

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Speaker 2: Exclamation mark. She's excited. Well, I did see it at

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00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: four years old, but I know only because I have

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Speaker 2: a picture of me in front of Lincoln's statue. I

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Speaker 2: am eighty two. My husband is eighty seven. Again exclamation mark.

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00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: She's excited. Trip has been planned and paid for since

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Speaker 2: last November. Exclamation again, very excited. Well, we will see

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00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: outside of building in half of White House plus construction.

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Speaker 2: No exclamation. We are going with a good attitude, but

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00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: this was a twist I never expected. Wanted to see

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00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: many things. Pray for peace in our car, lol. I

497
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: love your show and I listen every morning and evening

498
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: in the car. Best not to use my name. This

499
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: is family. Ooh sorry that was at the end. How

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00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: can I know? How could I know? Trust the feeling?

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00:29:53,080 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: How could I know? Michael? The funny thing about that

502
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: fireman who called in was the dead silence from you

503
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: when he was chuckling so hard after telling his story.

504
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't a funny thing that happened to that guy,

505
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: but his laugh and you not laughing made me laugh.

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00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: Thanks for keeping us so entertained with your call in people.

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00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: Pam George writes, Tzar, I lied to my wife for

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00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: our first two years together to get her attention. I

509
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: made every effort to give her the impression that I

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00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: was a rednecked country boy. I wore boots, wranglers, and

511
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: even gave myself a bit of a country twain. The

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00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: charade unraveled the first time I brought her home to

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00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: Washington State and confirmed her thoughts that I was a fake. Thankfully,

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00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: she laughed and confessed she knew better. Fairly early on

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Speaker 2: in our relationship. She's an actual country girl, having grown

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00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: up in rural Wisconsin and knew I was anything but

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Speaker 2: a redneck. My fingernails were too clean. She has a

518
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: great sense of humor, and I'm so thankful she saw

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00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: through my act. Twenty nine years kids later, she's still

520
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: my smoking hot five to four hundred and twenty pound firecracker.

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00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: The act would have been incredibly difficult to maintain all

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Speaker 2: this time. But if I'm honest, especially with the knowledge

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00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: of how our lives and marriage have turned out, if

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Speaker 2: I had to do it all over again, I'd lie

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00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: just the same if it meant ending up with her.

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00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: You're the best star. I love listening to you up

527
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: here in northern Wisconsin. Keep up the great work, George.

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00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: That's a nice message for mom. That's a nice message. Indeed, Well,

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00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: we're not going to have time to play it today,

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00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: but I will post it. Lauren Freeman is an advocate.

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Speaker 2: She's good. She got herself on kho EWT. She sent

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00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: me the link, or I found the link. I don't know.

533
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: I was looking and she was sending. She did not

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00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: mention on the air that the medical examiner said that

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00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: he had an orthopedic insert into his neck and shoulder,

536
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: which she didn't know of him ever having. And then

537
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: the medical examiner later came back and said, oh, that

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00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: was another that was another body, not his. How do

539
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: you get that wrong? They also listed his body as

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00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: being four to eight eighty five pounds and he was

541
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: five to three one hundred and twenty. And when you're

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00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 2: brought out of the water, you hold water, you don't shrink,

543
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: which seems odd. So either the medical examiners asleep at

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Speaker 2: the wheel or I don't know. I really don't know.

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00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: I have been contacted by HPD, so I know that

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00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: they are looking at this case since we started talking

547
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: about it, and hopefully they can find out exactly what

548
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: happened with regard to this. That's I don't you're not

549
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 2: bringing the kid back, but at least you could give

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00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: his family some grief, some grief, some solace. Perhaps we

551
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: will be back in a few hours for the evening show.

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00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: I do read your emails if you need to buy

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00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: something over the weekend, a good or service. I love

554
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: it when you send me an email. It's never trouble.

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00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: I respond to every one of those emails, and I

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00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: respond to as many emails as I possibly can, so

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00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: keep them coming. That's all. Through the website at Michael

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Speaker 2: Berryshow dot com. You can sign up for your Gringo's

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00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: gift card and free bumper sticker while they last. You

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00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: can get our daily Blast, which Darryl Kunde so ably

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Speaker 2: puts together. And otherwise we'll talk too soon. Goodbye,