1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Y'all. This is part two of the cold case of 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Laura Lee's spear. Y'all remember last week we got to 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: speak with Sheriff Chipwood out of the Volushi County Sheriff's Office. 4 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: He was fantastic. He wants this case solved and he's 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: got the right man on it. I'm gonna tell y'all 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Detective Cordell LeMay. He has been with the Volucia County 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office for fourteen years, eleven of those as a detective. 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: He has worked major case He's worked crimes against persons, 9 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: property crimes. Started as a road deputy and that's where 10 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: he got I'm sure the majority of his training. He 11 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: holds a bachelor's degree in criminal justice and a professional 12 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: certificate in profiling, both from UCF the University of Central Florida. 13 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: He was the first deputy in recent memory, so that's 14 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: probably about three decades that successfully investigated and charged a 15 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: reco case. Then he pioneered the development of the geo 16 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: fence search warrant for his department. He was only second 17 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: to Raleigh, North Carolina in the whole country pulling that off. 18 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: He was also Investigator of the Year. I have talked 19 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 1: to this man. We have talked about Laura Lee's case, 20 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: and I'm going to tell y'all right now, he don't 21 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: get tired. We talked about different people, threw some names out, 22 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: said hey, this might be a way to get you 23 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: some help. This might be a different advantage point, this 24 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: might be a new way to look at something. He 25 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: was all about it. He was not going to hesitate 26 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: to try whatever he could. It is my honor to 27 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: welcome Detective Cordell le May to Zone seven. 28 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for the kind of introduction. I 29 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: really appreciate it. 30 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: You are more than welcome. I'll tell you the sheriff 31 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: had some nice things to say about you too, off air, 32 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: of course, but he did. It was a wonderful conversation, 33 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: and he just talked about how devoted you were and 34 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: determined and just a solid deputy all the way around, 35 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: well respected, good head on your shoulders, ethical, the whole package. 36 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: So I know what you're putting into this case, and 37 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: I just appreciate you coming and sharing with us and 38 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: maybe even talking a little bit about how anybody listening 39 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: can help you. So why don't you take a second 40 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: and just kind of give us an overview of Laurlee 41 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: Spears's case the way you know it. 42 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: On April twenty fifth, nineteen ninety four, a rictim Laurley Spear. 43 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: She was a fifteen year old high school student. She 44 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: lived in DeLand, Florida, which is, for those unfamiliars, a 45 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: pretty rural town in Vlusha County, Florida. It especially was 46 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four. Larlie went to DeLand High School 47 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: and she was a just getting into the cheerleading squad, 48 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: and in addition to that, she was active in her 49 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: local church youth group. From all of the interviews with 50 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: family and friends, those were her two main priorities. Extracurricular 51 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: stuff outside of that didn't really didn't really exist. So 52 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: it was it was school, homework, straight A. She was 53 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: a straight A student, and when she wasn't at home 54 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: or at school, she was out at cheerleading practice or 55 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: she was at a church function. 56 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: So this was a good kid. 57 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I almost want to say, like textbook perfect child. 58 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: From everything I've heard about her, didn't have a mean 59 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: bone in her body. And that's really what makes what 60 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: happened to her so disturbing and upsetting, because here we 61 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: have a truly innocent victim. On April twenty fifth, ninety four, 62 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: she got off her school bus around three point thirty 63 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: pm on Deerfoot Road into Land now back then Deerfoot 64 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: Road it still is, but back then even more so. 65 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: It was a dirt road, probably about a mile long, 66 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: actually three quarters of a mile long, and there were 67 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: houses on each side of the dirt road. But it 68 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: was the road was pretty narrow, so only about wide 69 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: enough for a single car to get by one at 70 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: a time. She was the only one that got off 71 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: on her school bus, got off of her school bus 72 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: at that stop, and so she walked down the road 73 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 2: to her home and she never made it home. 74 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: And she was a rule follower, I mean she would 75 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: have hit that door right on ton absolutely. 76 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: It was said that her mother could almost set a 77 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: clock by her schedule. Her mom was home and so 78 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: within ten to fifteen minutes of her not getting home, 79 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: her mother realized that something was a miss. She started 80 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: calling around to Larley's friends and to neighbors asking if 81 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: anybody's seen her, and nobody had, so at that point 82 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: her mother called the sheriff's office. There was actually one 83 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: or two deputies that were patrolling that area at the time, 84 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: they weren't far away. They responded to take that missing 85 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: person's report at about four o'clock. Like I said, she 86 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: got off the school bus at three thirty. At about 87 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: four o'clock her mom reports are missing. People in the 88 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: neighborhood start looking for her. Deputy start looking for the helicopter, 89 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: which we call air one, goes up in the air 90 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: and starts starts looking for her in the area, and 91 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: they locate her body not far away the other end 92 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: of the road that she lives on, which is basically 93 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: about a quarter of a mile away from her house. 94 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: They locate her body there at a burned down residence. 95 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: The house that it was at it caught fire of 96 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: the year before burned down. Nobody lived there anymore, but 97 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: that's where the helicopter found her body at about five 98 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: forty PM I believe. 99 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: So DeLand is inland, yes, So it's what forty minutes 100 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: from the beach, give or ten. So you're not talking 101 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: about somebody that's near the water where all kinds of 102 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: tourists and different people would be just walking or driving 103 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: or cruising around. 104 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: No, DeLand is not a tourist destination. It's just you know, 105 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: a residential, little small town in the area. 106 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 1: And Deerfoot Road. I mean it's lined with pretty thick 107 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: woods even today. 108 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah today, even more so back then, which is why 109 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: it wasn't easy for you know, the cars to pass 110 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: each other on the road. You had to pull over 111 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: to let somebody drive by. 112 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: If somebody was laying in wait, she wouldn't have seen them. 113 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: So I have to brag a little bit now about 114 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: your department, because a lot of times nineteen ninety four 115 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: or today, you get a call like that from a 116 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: mama and you're like, well, I mean, maybe she's talped 117 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: at a friend's house, maybe she missed a bus, maybe 118 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: she decided to go to a boyfriend's house, maybe she 119 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: ran away. Y'all did not do that. Y'all immediately took 120 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: this seriously, got some deputies over there, started a search, 121 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: even put a helicopter in the air. I mean within 122 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: an hour, you pretty much had a full own search, 123 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: which I think is impressive. 124 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: They really did, because it was just so outside of 125 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: the norm for this girl. She didn't go anywhere on 126 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: her own, She didn't take it upon herself to hey, 127 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: you know, just walk over to her friends or whatever. 128 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: You know if she wasn't where she was supposed to 129 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: be when she was supposed to be, and there was 130 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: some sort of issue. 131 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: And that's important to understand that victimology, and I mean 132 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: detective I got four sisters. Charlene, you could set a 133 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: clock by she was going to be home when she 134 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: said she was going to be home. Now, my sister Shelley, 135 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: that was a different story. If she found a better 136 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: time or something more interesting or something more fun, she 137 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: was going to go in that direction. So I mean, 138 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: we would have probably waited much, much, much longer before 139 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: we realized something bad had happened to her, because we 140 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: knew she was probably somewhere half the time of her life. 141 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: But I think it's important that even her sister Jenny, 142 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: who was only thirteen, I mean, everybody in her family 143 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: knew she wasn't running away. She wasn't somewhere spoken and drinking. 144 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: She wasn't somewhere just with friends playing video games. That 145 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: was not her style. So again, I think your department 146 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: taking it on like I did, says an awful lot. 147 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: And y'all ain't given up yet. I mean you're still 148 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: giving it everything you've got. 149 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: Well, we really are. I mean, it's just passed the 150 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: thirtieth anniversary of this happening. This thing needs to be solved, 151 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: and we're all of the same opinion, and from the 152 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: top all the way down, we want to try and 153 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: pull out every stop that we can to make sure 154 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: that this thing gets resolved. It's been too long now, 155 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: and y'all. 156 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: Have offered fifty thousand dollars. 157 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: That's a chunk it change it is. 158 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: And if I had to guess that abandoned house was 159 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: the centerpiece for some folks going there drinking, smoking, shooting guns, 160 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: this is not the only crime they've been associated with. 161 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: Yes, So that area after it burned out, I don't 162 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: know what it was like before it burned down, but 163 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: after it burned down, it became a hangout spot of sorts. 164 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: Older teenagers, young adults would go back there, hang out, 165 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: drink beers. Shooting was not uncommon in the area, So 166 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is specifically the only place 167 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: that people would go target shooting, but after talking with 168 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: many of the neighbors at that time, it was uncommon 169 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: to hear gunshots and there was plenty of evidence of 170 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 2: target practice going on at the scene there, which becomes 171 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: such an important aspect of the investigation because of the 172 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: fact that we found evidence to suggest that the person 173 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: who killed her had been there previously at another date 174 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: target shooting in that area, which obviously you and I 175 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: understand to be very important because it shows that whoever's there, 176 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: it's not like some passer by just passing through the neighborhood. 177 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: They most likely live around that area, and they're familiar 178 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: with the area, and they've been there before. And what 179 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: makes it doubly important is if there are other people 180 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: hanging out there in addition to this unknown suspect being 181 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: there occasionally, some people are probably going to cross paths 182 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: with this guy at some point. 183 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I think the possibility that other people know this person, 184 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: know that this person shot guns there, know that this 185 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: person was kind of a regular there. I have a 186 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: feeling he either bragged about it or told on himself 187 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: in some way, because again, as the crow flies, you know, 188 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: he might be able to go somewhere and be a 189 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: good distance away sort of. But the reality is that 190 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: spot is not something you would see from the roadway. 191 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: It's not something you would know about if you weren't 192 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: from that general area. 193 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: And I mean like to yeah, absolutely, And I used 194 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: to back when I was on patrol in my early 195 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: days at the agency. I worked in that area, and 196 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: this is before I learned of this case, But I 197 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: became kind of familiar with those back roads and everything. 198 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: But when I first went back there, I had no 199 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: idea where the heckuy was going. I was kind of 200 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: it was easy to get lost, so especially if somebody 201 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: had to be familiar with the area and know where 202 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: they were going. 203 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: Now y'all have done such due diligence. Y'all have had 204 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: about twenty four different suspects. 205 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a lot more than that, to be 206 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 2: completely honest. So we have DNA that's going to help 207 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: us find this guy. As far as the DNA goes, 208 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: we're able to use it to either rule in or 209 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: rule out somebody. Obviously, so far, everybody has been that 210 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: we've been focusing on has been ruled out, so to speak, 211 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: or else we wouldn't be talking about this case anymore. 212 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: And of course there's there's people that we may can't 213 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: come into contact with that you know, refuse to give 214 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: us our DNA, that don't want to help out the 215 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: investigation for whatever reason. So you know, we got to 216 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 2: kind of think more three dimensionally about. 217 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: How to how to. 218 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: Deal with those those issues. But way back in the 219 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 2: day when this started, through interviews that were done at 220 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: the time, a dark colored truck became a focal point 221 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: of this investigation after some neighbors in the area talked about, 222 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: you know, hearing gunshots, hearing gunshots around the time of 223 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 2: the murder when it would have happened, and then seeing 224 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: a dark colored truck beaten feet pretty quick out of 225 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: the area. It doesn't mean that's what we're looking for, 226 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: but it's a clue. At the time, you know, before 227 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: DNA evidence and anything like that existed, or while it 228 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 2: was in its infancy, this dark colored truck was one 229 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: of the biggest leads. We wound up with a guy. 230 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: His name was Bobby Rally. Bobby Raley was he was 231 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 2: currently in jail for a double murder that he and 232 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: his cousin, Domingo Figueroa, committed in June of that year, 233 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: So June nineteen ninety four, like a month and a 234 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: half after this murder, and while he was in jail 235 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: for it, there were some people in the jail that 236 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: started giving information about him, saying that he had confessed 237 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: to this, or he was making really weird comments about 238 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: this case. What they were telling us or what they 239 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: were telling the detectives at the time seemed very good. 240 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: It was decent evidence. We got all these people, probably 241 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: like five or six people in the jail. It was 242 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: coming forward with this stuff that either Bobby Rally is 243 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: telling them or they inadvertently observed about him when he 244 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: was at the jail, and so, uh, that really put 245 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: him on the radar. You know, he matched a or 246 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: he drove a vehicle that was pretty close to the 247 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: suspect description. I guess it was probably like a day 248 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: or two after the murder he actually took off to Virginia. 249 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: That was one of the things that we were looking for, 250 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: is that somebody who may all of a sudden up 251 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: and leave town, you know, after this sort of thing happens. 252 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: And so all this evidence was was compiled, it was 253 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: brought to a grand jury, and Bobby Rally was indicted 254 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: for this murder. And then some inconsistencies started showing. Long 255 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: story short, the investigation was reassigned and I guess I'll 256 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: say it was determined that Bobby Rally didn't do it, 257 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: but it was determined there wasn't probable cause for Bobby 258 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:55,479 Speaker 2: Rally having done it, especially especially one of one of 259 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: the most impactful pieces of evidence was there was a 260 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: truck upholstery shop in the area and that was run 261 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: by a retired deputy who used to work with us. 262 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: On the day of the murder, Bobby Raley brought his 263 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: truck in there to get his seats replaced, and it 264 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: was in such a timeframe that it wouldn't have been 265 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: possible for him to do the murder and get back 266 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: there and be there to have his truck work done. 267 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: And so the charges against him were dropped and for 268 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: all intents and purposes, it was back to square one 269 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: with the investigation. Because this process with charging Bobby Raley, 270 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: I think it went on for a couple of years, 271 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: you know, after him being charged and you know, hearings 272 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: and the court process and all of that. So during 273 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: that time the investigation wasn't focused on anyone else. After 274 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: going through the case file and the deep dives that 275 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: I've done on it, there were a lot of good 276 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: suspects at the time. Say, in my experience as a detective, 277 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: I've never seen a rogues gallery of such good suspects 278 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: in a small area, especially a small little town like this. 279 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: Over the years after the charges against Rawlei were dropped, 280 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: the detectives that have worked on this case before me, 281 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: I've obviously done their due diligence to try and rule 282 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: out these other good suspects that we have. Some of 283 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: them have been ruled out, and you know, some of 284 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: them haven't been cooperative or for whatever reason, they have 285 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: not been ruled out. And I think it's important to 286 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: specify when I say ruled out, and I tell you 287 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: earlier on that we have DNA evidence. We use the 288 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 2: word ruled out or eliminated as a suspect or something 289 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: like that, But all it really means is that this 290 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 2: person is eliminated as a contributor to the DNA that 291 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 2: we do have. It doesn't mean that this person wasn't there, 292 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: you know, if there were more than one people. But 293 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: what it does mean is that for this whatever this 294 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: particular suspect data that we do have, that this person 295 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: isn't the one that matches that gotcha. 296 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: Well, there's things about the crime saying y'all have never 297 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: released and I am a big fan of the ex girlfriend, 298 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: and if there is anybody that we were to come 299 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: forward to say they dated this person that was known 300 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: to be at the house. That may be a name 301 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: that's in your file. 302 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 2: You mean, like the people who used to live in 303 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: that house before it burned down? Is oatch? You mean? 304 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: I mean somebody that calls you up and says, hey, 305 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: I used to date X and he hung out at 306 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: that house and he told me yes, you know, GF 307 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: and R were at the scene, and You're like, we 308 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: have never released R. So how would this person know that. 309 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: I think we need to, you know, push this call 310 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: to action because I believe in my gut people know 311 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: this was not somebody that wasn't known to a ton 312 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,239 Speaker 1: of people that went there drinking and smoking weed. They 313 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: all knew each other, and after this happened, they all disbanded, 314 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: and this person probably went goes for a little bit 315 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: and then started do another crap and is either in 316 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: jail in and out the last thirty years or he's 317 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: in prison right now. 318 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, whether it's one person that's responsible for this, Larly 319 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: was she was raised right, Okay, she heard all the 320 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: things that you know kids heard back in the nineties there, 321 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: you know, just say no to drugs, don't take candy 322 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 2: from strangers, you know, don't get into a vehicle with 323 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 2: weird people. And so she wouldn't have been one to 324 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: just hop into somebody's car, you know, if they were 325 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: driving down the road. There was an anecdote that I 326 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: remember from from that time that I guess there was 327 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: a neighbor with his son's that was driving down that 328 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: road and it was raining out, and he saw her 329 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: walking home and he stopped to say, hey, I'll give 330 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: you right back to your house. And with that innocent circumstance, 331 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: she politely declined said, hey, no, I'm not supposed to 332 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: get in the car with anybody. I don't know. I 333 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: think if if somebody were to get her in a car, 334 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: which obviously I think is the only way that she 335 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: could have been taken almost a mile down the road, 336 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: I was transported in a vehicle, somebody either had to 337 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: force her in there under threat, or there is more 338 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: than one person. The easiest secret to keep is the 339 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: secret only one person knows about, because you don't cut 340 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 2: other people that can ratch you out. But even if 341 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: it's just one person, I firmly believe over thirty years, 342 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: somebody had to get this off their chest to somebody. 343 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 2: If there's two people or more, then more than one 344 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: person already know about it. If there's one person, they 345 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: probably told somebody. If you know, mom, dad, girlfriend, grandma, 346 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: somebody out there knows about what happened. I guess it's 347 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 2: incumbent upon somebody's hopeful goodness as a person if they 348 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: have this information to finally come forward with it. There's 349 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: been a lot of people that have come forward. Every 350 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: time we have some sort of publicity about this case, 351 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: well meeting, people come forward to say, hey, this happened 352 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 2: back then. I thought maybe this is suspicious, maybe you 353 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: guys should check this person out. But to this day, 354 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: nobody has come forward and said, hey, I know something 355 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: about this, and this is what I know. 356 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: I want to be real clear. Don't call because you're 357 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: mad at an ex husband, don't call because you're trying 358 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: to get your neighbor in trouble or something ridiculous. I 359 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: want you to be able to call and say, this 360 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: is something about the crime scene that is not in 361 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: the newspaper, and the only reason I know it is 362 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: because this person told me. They bragged they got drunk, 363 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: they went to jail and needed some type of status. 364 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: Because here's the thing about you know, the Bobby Riley 365 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: you were talking about, if he said something to a 366 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: salemate that was enough to make that person reach out 367 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: to y'all. Again, let's get specific and if the DNA 368 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: doesn't match him, again, if there's a second person, does 369 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: it match Domingo Figueroa, Does it match somebody else that 370 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: they know? Are those two taking this case on because 371 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: they know who did it? But since they're in jail, 372 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: they know this guy hadn't been arrested, so they can 373 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: get the status from doing it. Let's make that push 374 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: somebody out their nose. This person has not kept their 375 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: mouth shut for thirty years. They have also not led 376 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: an honorable life. I can tell you that. And nine 377 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: times out of ten his name is in your case file. 378 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 2: There's DNA advancements happening all the time. I'm not a scientist, 379 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,239 Speaker 2: I'm just a cop. So some of this stuff is 380 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: difficult to wrap your mind around about how it works. 381 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: But I'm confident that with what we have, it's less 382 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: of an if we find what we're looking for and 383 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: more more of a win. It's just a matter of time. 384 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: I agree with you. One hundred percent, which is another 385 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: reason I'm telling those people, if you're listening to this, 386 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: there's fifty thousand dollars on the table right now, and 387 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: Detective le May is coming. He's going to solve it. 388 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: He's already got in his rolodex the name of some 389 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: people that I guarantee you if it's solvable, they can 390 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: do it today. So come forward, tell what you know, 391 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: because it's going to happen anyway. And I mean, fifty 392 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 1: thousand dollars is life changing. 393 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I could think of a lot of things 394 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 2: to do with fifty thousand dollars. 395 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? That could be the next six episodes 396 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: of Zone seven? What mean you to do with the 397 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars? 398 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am, And you know. And I feel like, just 399 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: from a perspective of appealing to the humanity of people, 400 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 2: of somebody who may know what happened and is listening, 401 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: or even you know, even the person that did it themselves, 402 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: I can only imagine that this sort of thing is 403 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: a thing that eats at you, like somebody out there 404 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: did something really terrible and got thirty years to live 405 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 2: their life and do whatever they wanted to do with 406 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: their life. Meanwhile, Larley Spears stuck back in nineteen ninety 407 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: four because she never really got the chance to get 408 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: her life going. You know, it's time for the person 409 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: out that did it. It's time to It's a come 410 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: to Jesus moment. If we don't get you first, it's 411 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: time to do the right things. 412 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: I agree, And you know there's another reality. Some of 413 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: those people that used to party at that house have 414 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: a fourteen year old daughter today, have a fifteen year 415 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: old daughter, have a thirteen year old daughter like her sister. 416 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: You get to look at her every day, what she's into, 417 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: what she enjoys, the music, the school, dances, her clothes, whatever. 418 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: And you know who took that from somebody? You know 419 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: what would what it would do to you if something 420 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: were to happen to your child. It's a phone call. 421 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: You don't even have to say who you are, give 422 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: a name, give something that is not in the newspaper, 423 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: not even five minutes out of your day. Call detectivelo 424 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: May and say, hey, I don't want to give you 425 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: my name. I'm calling from a phone at Target. But 426 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: here's what I know, and here's who I know did it. 427 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: And I've read every newspaper article and this isn't in. 428 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: It, absolutely, and I mean it's important for people to 429 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: know and understand that. And we're not relying on the 430 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: charity of strangers to try and point us in the 431 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: right direction. We're still out there beating up, beating the 432 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 2: pavement on this thing. I've knocked on on people's doors. 433 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 2: I tell them why I'm there, and their headspins. They're like, still, 434 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 2: like this thing's so old, you guys are you're still 435 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 2: actively looking into this, and it's like, yeah, we're still 436 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: going to ain't got to stop, Like no, that. 437 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: Blows my mind. It blows my mind when people think 438 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: that way, like there's a statute of limitations where we're 439 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: just not going to care about laar Ley Spear again. 440 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: And the reality is, let's say this person did get 441 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: completely away with it. That means there is somebody out 442 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: there pumping gas next to your daughter, somebody working at 443 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: the golf course next to your son, somebody eating dinner 444 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: next to your wife. That is not okay for that 445 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: killer to be able to do any of those things. 446 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: And let me just tell you something else. If y'all 447 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: don't want to call the police, reach out to me. 448 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: We had somebody. I'm gonna tell the truth. We had 449 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: a witness come through Zone seven last week. You can 450 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: call me, and for anybody listening, I can set the 451 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: record completely straight with y'all. I am a snitch. You 452 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: hear me, I got no fall. I will call the 453 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: detective at two in the morning, two in the afternoon. 454 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: I will go knock on his office door. I'm gonna 455 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: tell it. So if you call me, I am more 456 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: than happy to type it up, get it to him, 457 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: raise my right hand and swear this happened. This person 458 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: reached out. You don't have to tell me who you are. 459 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: You can send me an anonymous message or phone message 460 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: or whatever you want to do. Y'all know how to 461 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: work social media and everything else. You can reach out 462 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: anytime and I will get the information there. It's that 463 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: important and it's that easy. 464 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: Yes. And speaking of the anonymity, we have crime Stoppers 465 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: in Florida to completely anonymous service if you want it 466 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 2: to be. People submit tips to us through there all 467 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: the time. Sometimes people when there's rewards, people aren't even 468 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: concerned about the money, you know, They like I just 469 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 2: don't want to get involved, but I want to say 470 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 2: something and you know that or them calling use a 471 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: perfect way for them for them to do that. If 472 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 2: somebody is interested in the money aspect of it, we're 473 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: there for you to. 474 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, right on, because I'm going to tell it for free, 475 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: because that's just the right thing to do. But if 476 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: you need the money, and the money is there, that's 477 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: why they put it up. And if you need to 478 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: get that money, tell on this person and move. You've 479 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: got the means to be able to do it. The 480 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: biggest thing is do it, Detective. Give us a cross 481 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: street and maybe jog some folks' memories of exactly where 482 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: this house. 483 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: Was lacross street where this happened was. It was a 484 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: lot right on the corner of these two streets. It 485 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: was Deerfoot Road and Facio Road, and the land Deerfoot 486 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: Road runs it only runs from Facio Road to spring 487 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: Garden Road. And so Laralie got off the off the 488 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: bus at Deerfoot in spring Garden and she was found 489 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: all the way at the other end at Deerfoot and Facio. 490 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: That's the house that you know was used for hanging out, drinking, 491 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: shooting back then. Both Deerfoot Road and Facio Road, they 492 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: are both out of the way, dirt roads perfect. 493 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: And again, I truly believe that somebody used to frequent 494 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: that place, and after this happened, I don't think they 495 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: ever returned, and I think it was really obvious to 496 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: the people that knew them. And I just am prayerful 497 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: that somebody's going to come forward, and we are going 498 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 1: to keep y'all updated. And if y'all can think of 499 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: anything that you know, Detective la May can try, or 500 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: that Zone seven can try, let us know and we 501 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: will see what we can do to push this thing 502 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: where he needs it to be. Detective I appreciate you 503 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: so much. I know that her family appreciates what you're doing. 504 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: And like I said, you and I have talked that 505 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure we're going to talk again, and I will 506 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: see you and Belusha soon. 507 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 2: All right, it sounds good. Thank you, Cheryl. I appreciate 508 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: it so much. 509 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, y'all. I'm going to end Zone seven the way 510 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: that I always do with a quote. Even when a 511 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: case wasn't mine, if I thought I could contribute, whether 512 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: with my forensics expertise or investigative doggedness, I always found 513 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: a way to insert myself. Paul Hols I'm Cheryl McCollum 514 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: and this is Zone seven.