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Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome to a new episode of You

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Speaker 1: Need Therapy Podcast. My name is Kat and I am

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Speaker 1: the host. If you are new to You Need Therapy

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Speaker 1: and you're wondering what couch Talks is, it is the

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Speaker 1: special bonus episode of You Need Therapy where I answer

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Speaker 1: questions that you guys send to me at Catherine at

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Speaker 1: You Need Therapy podcast dot com. Now, before we get started,

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Speaker 1: a quick reminder that although this is a podcast that

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Speaker 1: is hosted by a therapist and I am answering your

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Speaker 1: questions specifically today, uh, this podcast does not ever try

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Speaker 1: to replace therapy. It cannot be a substitute for therapy.

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Speaker 1: Although it might help you in whatever it is that

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Speaker 1: you're working on a therapy it might lead you to therapy. Now,

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Speaker 1: couch Talks I answer questions that you guys send in

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Speaker 1: And this day is a little bit different because I'm

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Speaker 1: going to take one email should I got and start

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Speaker 1: with that and let it kind of be like a

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Speaker 1: channel through these other questions. And they're all centered around

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Speaker 1: questions that have to do with becoming a therapist. So

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Speaker 1: I know that a lot of y'all listening are aspiring therapists,

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Speaker 1: are contemplating becoming a therapist, are early therapist, maybe some

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Speaker 1: of our older therapists, or in school, and so I

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Speaker 1: get a lot of questions about just what it's like

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Speaker 1: to be a therapist, but also what it takes in

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Speaker 1: advice for those who are thinking about it or in

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Speaker 1: the beginning stages of their process. So I'm gonna start

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Speaker 1: with this question that was an email, and then I

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Speaker 1: have seven other questions that hopefully, well, we can get

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Speaker 1: to most of them, and if not, we'll do a

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Speaker 1: part too one day. So the email I got was this, Hey, cat,

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Speaker 1: I'm currently considering a career change to psychology. It would

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Speaker 1: be leaving my stable job to go back to school

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Speaker 1: to qualify as a therapist. While money has never been

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Speaker 1: the biggest factor in my career choices, it is of

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Speaker 1: a concern now that I'm in my late twenties and

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Speaker 1: trying to build a foundation for the future. I'm struggling

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Speaker 1: to get a real sense of what therapists and different

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Speaker 1: roles and settings earn and what the long term earning

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Speaker 1: potential is in this field. Can you speak to the

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Speaker 1: financial practicalities of the career path and what aspiring therapists

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Speaker 1: shouldn't know? Okay, So what I don't really want to

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Speaker 1: do today is like tell you the income and medium

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Speaker 1: what you're interested in and what you want to actually

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Speaker 1: do as a therapist or just a mental health professional.

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Speaker 1: You can work in community centers, you can work in nonprofits,

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Speaker 1: you can work in treatment centers, you can work in

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Speaker 1: private treatment centers. You can have a private practice, you

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Speaker 1: can be a clinical director, you can be a program director.

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Speaker 1: There's a ton of things that you can do, and

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Speaker 1: So let's go down the line that I have. I

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Speaker 1: Those are two types of trauma therapy. So does that

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Speaker 1: mean I'm never going to go take an m DR training. No.

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Speaker 1: I probably will do it in the future, just to

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Speaker 1: gain that experience and learn about it. But also it

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I have to use it. Like, just

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Speaker 1: because I don't use that doesn't mean I'm not a

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Speaker 1: good therapist. And just because somebody isn't an experiential therapist

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they're not a good therapist. So just

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Speaker 1: allow yourself to kind of learn, be open minded, and

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Speaker 1: then allow yourself to settle into like what makes sense

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Speaker 1: with you and how you want to work. Also, depending

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Speaker 1: on the population you want to work with or you

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Speaker 1: end up working with, different things are gonna be better

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Speaker 1: or worse for that, or make more sense for that.

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Speaker 1: So we got through all questions except why I didn't

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Speaker 1: use all of the questions. So maybe we will do

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Speaker 1: a part two. But that number six question, we'll come

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Speaker 1: back to it eventually, and that is going to do

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Speaker 1: it for this episode of Couch Talks. If you are

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Speaker 1: somebody who is looking into this, I'm excited for you

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Speaker 1: to even be thinking about it, because I can't tell

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Speaker 1: you how cool of a job this is. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, this is literally what I do for

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Speaker 1: a living. This is so cool. I still get excited

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Speaker 1: about it. So I'm excited that you guys are even

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Speaker 1: thinking about it. If you are and yeah, that's going

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Speaker 1: to do it for couch Talks. I am actually tomorrow

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Speaker 1: while you're listening to this, if you're listening to this

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Speaker 1: on the ones say it comes out, I will be

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Speaker 1: on a flight to New York City to send a

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Speaker 1: couple of days there and do some work things, also

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Speaker 1: do some fun things. So I'll be having the day

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Speaker 1: I need to have. I hope you guys are also

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Speaker 1: having today you need to have. I will be back

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Speaker 1: with you Monday for you need therapy, and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you later. Bye. H