1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This he's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Star in fris j Elliot flowing to the Gold and 5 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: now your hosts, I say a stand back, Patrick Walker, 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeomans. It is a victory Monday 7 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: here by Talking Cowboys, presented by a Black Rifle Coffee company. 8 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Is it working in the background? Now? Behind it's the music. 9 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: Pa gets there now, Okay, good, Now we can dance 10 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: and it's all good to go. Oh. The Cowboys get 11 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: another win, their third straight overall, they're eighth straight against 12 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: the NFC's twenty five to ten over the Washington Commanders. 13 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: And we're here to break it all down for you 14 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: here from the Star in Frisco. Patrick No, C. Walker, 15 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's gentlemen, Cowboys 16 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: get the job done today and we are happy to 17 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: be able to go all the way through it. And 18 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: I'll start with you Patrick, just because you got your 19 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: victory hat on. Yes, you're ready to roll. You got 20 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: going on right there? Oh, you can't. You can't wear 21 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: the headphones right right but radio raheem yeah yeah, sounds 22 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: out of the spike. Yeah yeah. Those who know no, 23 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: if you know, you know, well, you know. What are 24 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the win? Uh? It was? It was 25 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: a good another gutsy win for the Cowboys. I mean, 26 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: was it clean? Absolutely nut um. But as I've said 27 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: time and time again, pretty win, ugly win. I don't care, 28 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: Just win baby the Cowboys. You know, I predicted that 29 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: they would break through the thirty thirty point mark for 30 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: the first time this season, and they could have, which 31 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: is a little bit frustrating. They did leave some plays 32 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: on the field again to Rob's point in the press box, 33 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush had a leprechn on his shoulder two interceptions 34 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: that were deleted by penalty. But the defense did exactly 35 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: what we knew that they would and be able to do. 36 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: They held another team to under twenty points, this one 37 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: specifically ten points. They've now allowed only one touchdown per 38 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: game every game this season. This is a super Bowl 39 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: caliber defense. The only question was it remains Can the 40 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense continue on a weekly basis to play clean 41 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: enough and effective enough to compliment that and what's going 42 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: on with special teams as well. They did it again again. 43 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush dodged a couple of buds, but in the 44 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: second half he looked much better. Michael Gallop the return 45 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: of Michael Gallop was huge for both Cooper Rush and 46 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: opening up those lanes for Ceedee Lamb. They stuck to 47 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: the run with Ezekiel Elliott just enough to sit up 48 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: the downfield. So don't necessarily love what I saw from 49 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys office yesterday. I love what I saw from 50 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: their defense and their special teams, but I love to 51 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: win as a whole three and win. You can't complain 52 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: too much there, right, Yeah, good stuff from no Ce. 53 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: This is probably the most unexpected, at least outside the 54 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: locker room, most unexpected three game win streak that I 55 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: can remember since twenty sixteen, since Dak Prescott was the 56 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: rookie and we didn't know what to expect from Dad, 57 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: and probably more so honestly, because there are more overall 58 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: questions about this roster, at least on offense than there 59 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: were in twenty sixteen. They had a nice veteran nucleus 60 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 1: around Dak that year. We've talked about receiver, we've talked 61 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: about left tackle. We've talked about left guard. They don't 62 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: have their leading tackler from last season at safety either, 63 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: by the way, and they're finding a way to get 64 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: it done. I don't even think Jerry Jones, the eternal optimist, 65 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: expected three wins in a row, and he wouldn't say it, 66 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: but the way he talked in the locker room outside 67 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: the locker room after the game about how Cooper Rush 68 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: has exceeded all my expectations, this is, uh, this is 69 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: a really special win streak that they're on to be 70 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: oh and one, and you think the season might be 71 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: just off the rails, and now you're I think you're 72 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: tied for second in the NFC East and Dak is 73 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: getting healthy. You could not ask for more right now 74 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: from the Cowboys right now. I agree. I think they 75 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: they found a way to win. Ultimately, that's really all 76 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: that matters. I don't think that anybody satisfied with the 77 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: offense once again. But you know, they won and they 78 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: got lucky. And as we've said a couple of times 79 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: this year already, is better to be lucky than to 80 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: be good. It would be good. So it worked. Defensively, 81 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: they were dominant again. I think they were dominant again. 82 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: They definitely showed a couple of weeks here and there, 83 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: But I think that's going to happen in every game. 84 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: It's the NFL. There's there's always gonna be things that 85 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: you want to go back and shure of. Nobody's ever 86 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: gonna be satisfied as a coach, You're never gonna be satisfied. 87 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: As an analysts, you're never gonna be satisfied. You just 88 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: you say, Okay, good job for the things that you 89 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: did well, and then you you're going to focus in 90 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: on the things that you did negatively right, because you 91 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: want to share those things up. You want to make 92 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: sure there's no crack in your armor anywhere that anybody 93 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: watching on the outside or upcoming can look at and say, ah, 94 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: that's where we can get them at. So you take 95 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: the dub, You walk away with the dub. You're happy 96 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: about that, but at the same time, you look at 97 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: the areas in which you can improve in so that 98 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: you can make sure that as this competition continues to increase, 99 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: especially over these next few weeks, that you're you're right 100 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: ready to rock and roll. Yeah, you've got two really 101 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: big games coming up. You've got a benchmark test that 102 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: we talked about that all last year was what do 103 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: you do in your benchmarks? You've you've passed one, you 104 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: failed one so far this season. The first one was 105 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, you failed that one. The second one with Cincinnati, 106 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: the reigning AFC champions, you pass that one. Right now, 107 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: you've got another one against the Rams coming up, reigning 108 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champs, and then right after that Philadelphia is 109 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: still undefeated going into Week five. So you've got two 110 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: massive matchups on the way. But the way that you're 111 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: trending here, and going back to what Rob said, it 112 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: couldn't have been asked for more. You've taken care of 113 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: the football. Your defense is dominated. They've done everything that 114 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: they've certainly needed to get the win. And even though 115 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: it hasn't necessarily been pretty all the time. On offense, 116 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: they've gotten back to where they've got separation at the 117 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: wide receiver position. They've been able to run the football effectively, 118 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: and they've stuck with the run. The run wasn't as 119 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: effective yesterday as it had been the week prior, not 120 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: even at any point in the ball game. However, they 121 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: stuck with it. Nineteen carries for Ezekiel Elliott yesterday he 122 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: only ended up with forty nine yards. Much of that 123 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: was because that the interior of the Washington line was 124 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: really really good. Yes, right, So with all of the positives, 125 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm hearing a lot of negative too. I mean, this 126 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: is a three game win streak you did not anticipate 127 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: to have. Why is there so much pause to give 128 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: credit where credit is due around the country. I think 129 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: from the aspect of those was that are on the 130 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: outside looking in, they're looking at it as well. You know, 131 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: you get Michael Gallop back, and you got Ceedee Lamb, 132 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: and rightfully so everyone expected more of Ceedee Lamb from 133 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: minute one, sure in twenty twenty two, So so that's justifiable. Right. 134 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: He's starting to come on strong here now. Had one 135 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: hundred yard game last week. He was only three yards 136 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: shovel a hundred yard game this week. Noah Brown has 137 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: been fantastic. We will get news and notes on the 138 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: update on Noah Brown. Michael Gallop is back, but you know, 139 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: to this point, be it Dak Prescott and or Cooper Rush, 140 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: the passing attack hasn't been what it was. But I 141 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: think that the pause should have been placed prior to 142 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: the season beginning anyway, because Amari Cooper is not here, 143 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: Michael Gallop was not going to start the season, he 144 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: was going to miss several games. You didn't know necessarily 145 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: that Noah Brown was going to have a career best season. 146 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: You would hope that he was stepping to the Cedric 147 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: Wilson roll, but you didn't know that would happen. And 148 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: then behind Noah Brown and Ceedee Lamb, it was just 149 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of question marks, right, So I get it, 150 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you have to be able 151 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: to realize what's happening here. Because we said this prior 152 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: to Cooper Rush's first start. If Cooper Rush could get 153 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: you the two wins in the two division games, and 154 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: maybe he drops Cincinnati, maybe he drops Los Angeles, he's 155 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: two and two. Maybe Dak is ready. At that point, 156 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: we were talking about two and three being a best 157 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: case scenario. At one point during a five game stretch 158 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: where where Dak Prescott was out and you didn't necessarily 159 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: know what was going on, you were thinking two and 160 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: three was going to be a big time win. Absolutely. 161 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: Now you're three and out, three and o on the 162 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush three, three and one going into Sofi Stadium, 163 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: massive matchup. Like you said, this is a benchmark test, 164 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: a litmus tests for the Cowboys. We will see who's 165 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback. I'm more inclined to believe 166 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: it's going to be Cooper Rush. We'll talk about that, 167 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, shortly. But at the same time, you know, 168 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: you cannot complain about being three and one because it's 169 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: very hard to win in this league. So you take 170 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: the win and you run with it and you prepare 171 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: for the next opponent. But to Isaiah's point, that doesn't 172 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: mean that you have the luxury, big player or coaching 173 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: staff to then say, Okay, well we don't have anything 174 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: to fix. You do have some things that you need 175 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: to That's what I was waiting to be answered, because 176 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: there are things that you need to fix, right, I 177 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: mean on both sides of the ball, not even just 178 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: the offensive side. The defense had some some leakage. Like 179 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: you said, yeah, the defense had some leak hitch. I know, 180 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: they want to show up some things in terms of 181 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: their run defense. They they really Washington really got after 182 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: them in terms of the edges. They really tore them 183 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: up on the edges. And whether that was the cornerbacks 184 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: unwillingness to come up and make stops, whether that was them, 185 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, grabbing the edge and kicking Mica out and 186 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: kicking out d Law and everybody else I was on 187 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: the defense end, that's something that I know Dan Quinn's 188 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: gonna want to shore up. Okay, that's just one area. 189 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: If I'm gonna be nitpicking, that's one area that the 190 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: defense needs to clear up. And I think that was 191 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: probably the first team that really came out and adamantly 192 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: tried to challenge them on the ground game. And I 193 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: think the interior defensive alignment responded really well. Big Bowl 194 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: had a good day. Tristan Hill, the reps that he had, 195 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: they did really well. Olsa was in there. I mean 196 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: the guys interiorly wise did a really good job run 197 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: defense outside as where we gotta shure it up and 198 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: asking to play into the secondary as well. Offensively, I mean, 199 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: call a spade a spade. They got. They caught some 200 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: dog on breaks. There is there's penalties on those two plays, 201 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: and that's still so it is what it is, right, 202 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they got the call right. However, that call 203 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: didn't affect the result of the what what the play 204 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: would have been so those first one did. The first 205 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: one was a holding call on the guy who intercepted 206 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: the pass, but where the ball was going, they would 207 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: have got picked it. It would have got picked. So 208 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying like, they're lucky they got 209 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: those back there. I mean, they got it right, the 210 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: referees did. However, those are the things that you're watching. 211 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: You're like, oh crap, we gotta we gotta wait with that, 212 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: and we gotta share that up. Okay, who whe wipe 213 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: your forehead, and let's make sure that doesn't ever happened again, 214 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: because you want to ensure that those those things don't 215 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: turn out the way that they could have and hurt 216 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: your team. And I think that the reason why I 217 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: think there's that pause, at least for me, I can't 218 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: speak for anybody else. The reason why I'm like, Okay, 219 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: good job cowboys, Like, hey, good stuff, but you still 220 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: got you gotta do more offensively. You have to do 221 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: more offensively because the teams that you're about to go against, 222 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: they know how to score points. And as great as 223 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: your defense has been playing again, I'm gonna say it, 224 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: you can't expect your defense to always build you out. 225 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: At some point in time, the offense is gonna have 226 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: to turn it on and people are gonna say, oh, well, 227 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup just got there, Like, yeah, I get it, 228 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: I get it. Nor DA's out, I get it, But 229 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: it's what you got. No, and you're right like they're 230 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna be challenged and at some point the defense 231 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: is gonna give over. I think we'll give up over 232 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: at twenty points. Maybe maybe not, Maybe I should, maybe 233 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: I should print this trademark verse to twenty. But no, 234 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: you're right about that. Maybe I may just be grading 235 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: the offense on a curve right now because I I mean, 236 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush is undefeated now four and oh, first quarterback 237 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: in Cowboys history to do that. But I'm still viewing 238 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: this offense and through the lens of they have a 239 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: backup quarterback in there, and so there they have limitations 240 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: on what they can do. And no Sea talks about 241 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: the extra five percent. Well, when Dak comes back, that's 242 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: an extra ten percent or whatever. Like that's the way 243 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: I look at me. So yeah, So, like I I'm 244 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: not surprised that they have some struggles with Cooper Rush 245 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: in the game even and maybe maybe we're just raising 246 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: our expectations for him based on the way he's played, 247 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: but he has gotten lucky in some spots. But he's 248 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: run the offense overall the way it needs to be 249 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: run in the philosophy that they want to run with 250 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: running the football and staying committed to it, like you said, Kyle, 251 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: and making plays off of that. That's been good. But yeah, 252 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to step it up for sure. You 253 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: can't make your defenses do what they're doing every single week. Well, 254 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: here's in all of these points are accurate. Out turn 255 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: the knob a little bit to the right and say this, 256 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: and I say this on Twitter last night. If you're 257 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: three and one with a backup quarterback, you've had some 258 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: look involved be you know, penalties, deleting, interceptions, whatever the 259 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: case may be, and you're about to get healthy with 260 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: a super Bowl caliber defense that still isn't hold j 261 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: Ron Curs is not back. Yeah, yeah, this team should scare, 262 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: should start to scare some other teams, the ones that 263 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: are looking at the Cowboys as far as I have 264 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: to face them in November, I have to face them 265 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: in December. If they're winning these games in September games, 266 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: they shouldn't technically be winning. It sets them up for 267 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: a very strong finish to the season. So if nothing else, 268 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to be analytical takeaways, you know, 269 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, roses to the to the penalties, for example, 270 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: only four penalties last game. You gotta hats off to 271 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: McCarthy and crew for that. But yes, we get paid 272 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: to look at the minutia of it all and say, okay, 273 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: well this can be improved, and this can be improved, 274 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: just like the coaches do, just like the players do. 275 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: But I think the main takeaway is to your point, Kyle, 276 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: you're three and one with a backup quarterback, having played 277 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: the last three games. You've not been whole on offense, 278 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: you've not been whole on defense, and yet hit you 279 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: are second place one game out. I'll put it like this, 280 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: They're not the best versions of themselves right now and 281 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,479 Speaker 1: they have to be better. Isaiah's right about that, especially offensively. 282 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: But I'm just impressed with the fight. Yeah, I'm impressed 283 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: with the fact that they they made and they wanted 284 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: to make all of us except for Pat, look look dumb. 285 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: In Week two, like none of us, nobody except Pat 286 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: pick pick the Cowboys that game, and and they've and 287 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: they've kind of banded together, and everybody's kind of pitching 288 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: in in all three phases. And that's that's the mark 289 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: of a team that's together, and it's pretty well balanced 290 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: and has a lot of fight to it. So is 291 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: it good enough to beat every team in the league 292 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: right now? No, But when you play defense like this, 293 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: that gives them a chance and and and if you graze, 294 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: if they raise their game around that going forward. You 295 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: guys know, I'm not a big stats person, Okay, but 296 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at some stats right here, and I 297 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: don't care what website you look at. The Washington Commanders 298 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: have scored seventy three points this year. All these teams 299 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: have played four games in the NFC East. Washingt Commanders 300 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: have scored some of them. Say it this way, Dallas 301 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys at the bottom seventy one points in the NFC's Okay, okay, 302 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: Washingt Commanders are in second place in terms of scoring 303 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: seventy three point points and they've shut down the last 304 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: two weeks because they scored thirty points per game the 305 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: first two weeks of the year. Then the New York 306 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: Giants are in third place or in second place with 307 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: seventy six points score this year the Philadelphia Eagles one 308 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen. It's a pretty big gap. You've got 309 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: to score some freaking points. Now, the Ram the Rams. 310 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: The Rams haven't scored nothing this year. They scored sixty one. 311 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: But they're capable. But they're capable. We've seen it. There's 312 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: no question mark regarding whether they can. They just haven't 313 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: clicked yet. Talk about a team that's not the best 314 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: version of themselves exactly. They have two Rams ball. But 315 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying that to say the Giants, Cowboys and Commanders 316 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: in the same category as we speak, in terms of 317 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: offensive success and turns the scoring points the Philadelphia Eagles, 318 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: which we'll see you next week. Okay, those guys are 319 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: above and beyond right now. So in preparation, when I 320 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: look at comparisons, that's what you're going to have to 321 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: compete with. That's where you're gonna be challenging right based 322 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: upon right now, the Giants had the same record as 323 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: you as well. That's where you're gonna be challenging most likely. 324 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: If you want to take this thing in terms of 325 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: an NFC and I get your mentality, because in the 326 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: room there today from a player's perspective. The coaches are 327 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: going to stay on the guys. This is great, but 328 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: we're going up against the defending champs, and it's got 329 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: there has to be a level rate. This is what 330 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: I love so much about these next two games that 331 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: are coming up. You're talking about the defending champs coming 332 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: up this weekend. You're talking about a high scoring Philadelphia 333 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: offense coming up the week after. I said this before, 334 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: and I'll say it again, and I'll continue to say 335 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: it until further notice. I've seen enough from dan Quin's 336 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: defense in Dallas to believe that this is the threshold 337 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: that I am measuring other offenses against. If you are 338 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: an opposing offense and you claim that to have a 339 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: prolific offense coming into Dallas, or you know, with Dallas 340 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: coming into your hometown, show me against this defense. Because 341 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: if you can rack up thirty plus points on this defense, 342 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: hats off to you. You do, in fact have a 343 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: high scoring offense, even if it's just for that particular week. 344 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: But until I see an opposing offense, because I've seen 345 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: them now shut down Tom Brady. They didn't get to 346 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: win because of the offense. Put the defenses shut down. 347 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. It's shut down Joe Burrow. Its shut down 348 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: a commander's team that was scoring pretty readily in the 349 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: first couple of weeks. It's shut down Daniel Jones and 350 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: say Quon Barkley at MetLife Stadium. Four touchdowns through four weeks. 351 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: Any opposing defense the Rams, all due respect to the 352 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: to the raining champs, all due respect to what the 353 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: Eagles are doing. But until they show me that they 354 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: can run up the score on this defense, I still 355 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: believe this defense is good enough to march into a 356 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: march in the Philadelphia. Dallas has given up in the NFC, 357 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: not even just the NFC East Defense and NFC. They've 358 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: given up the second lease most amount of points scored. 359 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: Man not taking to account the forty nine ers which 360 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: have to play tonight, but they've given up the second 361 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: lease amount one touchdown per game. You know, I like Rob, 362 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: Rob said, um, He's like, well, I don't think we 363 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: can expect Well, I don't know. You know what I 364 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: expect it now, right from from from the defense, from 365 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: the I expect a consistent basis on a weekend the 366 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: week out basis, I expect no more than twenty. I'll 367 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: be even generous here and say twenty to twenty four points. 368 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: I believe that this defense can hold every offense to 369 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: twenty four or fewer. And if that continues to happen, 370 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: then it will buy time for the offense too. Does 371 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: the offense need to do more? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, 372 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's everybody says that. But the defense 373 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: has done. And I get the points that both of 374 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: you are saying. How many points as Philly allowed in 375 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: that stat you mentioned how they're about forty points above 376 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: you on offense. How much have they allowed as well? 377 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: Seventy one? So not a whole lot either, everyone than us. 378 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: That's going to be a fun game. There you go. So, 379 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this is two weeks down the road. You 380 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: still got to play the defending Super Bowl champs this week. 381 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: But you go back around and Philly is the standard 382 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: at the moment by the way that they've played. I 383 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: will add in though, and I put this on Twitter 384 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: last week, it has not changed. They've won seven straight 385 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: games in the regular season. Philadelphia has, but they've been 386 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: against the combined twenty five and fifty nine. Between the 387 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: seven games that they've won, those teams were twenty five 388 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: and fifty nine last year, so they haven't really played 389 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: anybody yet. They played the Cardinals this week. That'll be 390 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: a good test because they were tested by Trevor Lawrence 391 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: this week too, and Doug Peterson for Philly head coach. 392 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: I hear you, they got the w that's I mean. Ultimately, 393 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: we're not just. I'm just. I know. I know people 394 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: people get mad at me. I don't care, but people 395 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: get me. You know, I don't care. But the reason 396 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: why my mentality is like that. To Rob's point, like, 397 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm literally trained to always look for how to get better. 398 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: And you don't get. I don't get. You don't get 399 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: as a player. You don't get pats on the back 400 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: for what you've done. That's in the past. It's already happened, 401 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: it's done, it's over with. Okay. When you're in the 402 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: middle of a season, or you're in the first quarter 403 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: of a season, there's more to do. And if you're 404 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: not hitting on all cylinders, there's more to do. Even 405 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: when you are hitting seemingly on more cylinders. Guess what 406 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn is gonna say, there's more to do. You 407 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: can get better defense, you're playing awesome. But again, I 408 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: asked that question, what if or what what win? It's 409 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: going to happen at one point in time. The Dallas 410 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys defense is not gonna show you who they've been 411 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: to date, and you're going to need your other two 412 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: thirds of your team to pick it up. And from 413 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: what we've seen this year that Dallas Cowboys have not 414 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: shown that they're willing or not saying that willing, but 415 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: abe or capable to put that backpack on and carry 416 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: the team through the finish line offensively. We haven't seen 417 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: it with Dak or Coop at any point this year 418 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: this year, not at all. Two things to add to 419 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: that before we go to our first break. First one 420 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: is I think fans out there, even though they're celebrating 421 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: and they're three and one and this is great, they 422 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: have that pause because of one thing, and it's been 423 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: the lack of success late in the season. Much like 424 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 1: what it was last year. There was a lot of 425 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: people giving this team flowers. They were healthy, they were building, 426 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: everything looked great, and then you lost in the divisional 427 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: or the wild card round to San Francisco. So it's 428 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: a lot of show me later sort of mentality from 429 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: the fans. Secondly, I think they would want the players 430 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: to have a mindset like Isaiah. Yeah, they don't want 431 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: players back in there on Monday saying, man, hey, a 432 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: great shot man, gotta win against the Washington Commanders. That 433 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: was great. Now we'll talk about the Rams on Wednesday. No, 434 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: that's not what it's about. Right now. You gotta turn around. 435 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: You gotta get better, all right, when we come back, 436 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about that defense, interior, defensive line. If I 437 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: had a game ball, we're we'll do helmet stickers coming 438 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: up in a little bit. 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By the way, 483 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: if you are a Cowboys fan who wants to spice 484 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: up the game, nominate yourself or friend to be the 485 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: Cowboys Fan of the Year, present by Captain Morgan and 486 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: went a trip to Super Bowl fifty seven in Arizona. 487 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: Nominate yourself four friend at Dallas Cowboys dot com. Slash 488 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: fan of the Year. I want to talk about the 489 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: defense here, Rob that interior of the defensive line, Neville 490 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: gallim Or, Tristan Hill, Quentin Bahanaum, Chauncey Golston. At times 491 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: I thought they were fantastic. Last time, I thought they 492 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: were really, really good, probably the best game that the 493 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: interior has played to this point in the season. Is 494 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: that what I sound like or is that singing? I 495 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: mean when I think about the interior defensive line yesterday, 496 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: Tristian Hill picking it up, Yeah, and just his toes 497 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: were off the ground is like a little cartoon character. 498 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: That was awesome. You say it one more time for me? 499 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: And well, what did I say? Phenomenal? That's the T 500 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: shirt Isaiah and he's it might be the title the 501 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: show after the show here. Yeah, No, they did a 502 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: fantastic job. I went back and I looked at both 503 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: teams were five or fifteen on third down. Speaks to again, offensively, 504 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys can get better. But eleven of the commanders 505 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: fifteen third downs were third and long, and they found 506 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: themselves in third and ten plus over and over and 507 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: over again with a ton of minus plays. Some of 508 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: it was self inflicted. They tried so hard to run 509 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, and they did, and they did 510 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: to a large extent, run it really well. But they 511 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: focused so much on that because they didn't trust their 512 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: protection for Carson Wentz. They were doing whatever they could, 513 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: even when the game started getting out of reach, to 514 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: make sure that he was in some manageable stuff. And 515 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: all you had to look at was the first drive. 516 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: Those last two plays of the drive, second and third 517 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: and long he's trying screen passes and he's not able 518 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: to get the ball out on time because the rush 519 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: was so good. So great job upfront. I think if 520 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: there's one thing, and as I spoke to it in 521 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: the first segment, the run defense, though, I think we're 522 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: seeing an example of why you don't want Mica to 523 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: play exclusively on the edge because and it's not all 524 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: on him, but when he's on the edge, and other 525 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: teams have tried it, but maybe more so in this game, 526 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: they're running at him and they're putting a tight end 527 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: to his side and they're trying to take him wash 528 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: him out of the play, and they had some success 529 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 1: doing that in the first half. Now I'll give him 530 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: credit though, because the first play the third quarter They 531 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: did the same thing with Gibson and he dropped him 532 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: for a minus two loss. But there's some things in 533 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: there they got to clean up overall. What can you say, though, 534 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean, once again, a fantastic everybody. You know what 535 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: I cannot get enough of when it comes to this defense. 536 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: One of the things I can't get enough of is 537 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: the depth. Like holy crap. Right, So we mentioned earlier 538 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: this defense is not whole because Jayron Curs is not 539 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: back quite yet. You lose starting Nicol Jordan Lewis yep 540 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: to a growing issue. Suffrad pregame and then a Camp Champ, 541 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: and then Camp Champ Dron Blaine. I like that. That's good, right. 542 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: Durron Blaine comes in and all he does is he 543 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: has a key PBu in the end zone because Carson wins. 544 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: Of course, they're gonna scheme, They're gonna, hey, let's let's 545 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: try the rookie. You get that out of here, and 546 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: then gets an interception, a key interception at a critical 547 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: point in the game. As I know, they didn't watch 548 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: training camp live. Clearly chers clearly we tried to tell 549 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: him if you knew better, you do better. Right. It 550 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: seems like whether it's the safety position with the absence 551 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: of darn curse. You see Lee Hooker doing Melie Cooker things. 552 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: You see Donovan Wilson just bawling out of control, so 553 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: forth and so on. You go to the cornerback room. 554 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: You lose Jordan Lewis unexpectedly moments before the game. Hey, rook, 555 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: you're starting, let's go dron playing. Hey, I'm just gonna 556 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: play like I've been here all my life, right, And 557 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: then you go down to the defensive front. Quentin Bohanna 558 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 1: was doing massive things as he has been doing all season. 559 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: You lose him in the second half, but then you 560 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: see a chump c ghost and ohso Diggy Zoo and 561 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: Neville Gallimour and those guys just galvanized Tristan Hill. You 562 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: started to see flashes of Triston Hill yesterday. The depth 563 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: at all three levels gives Dan Quinn so much comfort 564 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: in knowing, you know what, if we lose a guy, 565 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: the next guy is going to be equal to the 566 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: guy we just lost. But by the way, when that 567 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: guy we just lost gets back in a couple of weeks, 568 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: you should also fear him as well. This defense is 569 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: just it's nasty it's filthy. It should be illegal in 570 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: forty eight states. Agreed. Agreed, I just I mean, Dan 571 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: Quinn's freaking the genius. Yeah, and somebody's told you guys 572 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: a long time ago it's freaking amazing. But I wonder who. 573 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't know who that was, but somebody he's good. 574 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: And this in kudos to the front office of the 575 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys to completely turn around the depth of this 576 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: defense over a span of one and a half. And 577 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: speaking on safety, I don't know how many people are 578 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: talking about this player, Donovan Wilson. I think quite a 579 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: few people are old out. If you haven't watched the 580 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: film intently, go back and watch how many plays he 581 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: made that weren't big splash players, and everybody sees and 582 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: talks about, Yes, he made those plays. I think he 583 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: had nine solo tackles. If I'm craz so, you know 584 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: how hard it is. I have a solo tackle in 585 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: NFL at a safety position, had pretty dog on hard 586 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: like he. Those are open field tackles and he's coming downhill. 587 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: Mind you, he's not a large human He's not a 588 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: large human being. We talked about yesterday a five soaken, wet, 589 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: soaking wet with whatever sponsors shoes we have on okay 590 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: like these. He was coming downhill, he was shooting the gap. 591 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: He was trusting his eyes, trusting his reads, trusting his preparation, 592 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: and he was in there making plays. He was hog 593 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: tying guys by their ankles and helping his defense alignment out, 594 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: walking back to the safety position and doing what he 595 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: does and going about his business now looking for nobody 596 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: to pat him on the back. He hiped himself up, 597 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: got back up, do my assignment again, and he built 598 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: those guys out of so many potential big plays, I 599 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: can't even tell you was that the third and eleven 600 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: of Dotson where it was a little dump pass out 601 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: and it was right in space and he just he 602 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: just speared him basically. That was That was my favorite 603 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: play of the game. It's freaking Goldburgen. Get him off 604 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: the field, you know well, and we've talked about it 605 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: on this show. Through the first three weeks of the season, 606 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: there were times when he would come downhill and he 607 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: would fly to the football, but he was a little 608 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: reckless and where he was a little out of position 609 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: or late. Yeah, that was not the case yesterday. It 610 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: felt like he was like hit before, it felt like 611 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: he was closing his eyes. It felt like he was 612 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: a scud missile and he was just closing his eyes 613 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: and just throwing himself, which works at times sometimes it 614 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: works right, But now it feels like his eyes are open, 615 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: and now it's like he's now he's seeing exactly what 616 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: he's hitting, and he's making a lot of great plays. 617 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: To your point earlier up in in terms of Michael Parsons, 618 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, everybody looks for him to make the big 619 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: plays in terms of coming off the edge or coming 620 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: up the middle and getting pressures and sacks. The amount 621 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: of plays he's shut down yesterday in the screen game 622 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: because Washington's game plan was run, run, run screen. That 623 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: was their game plan. That's what they wanted to do. 624 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: They wanted they knew they had to get the balls 625 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: out their hand quick because you can't sit back and 626 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: and hold it against I don't care what your office 627 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: on line looks like, you just can't there. To your point, 628 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: too many guys, right, too many guys, too much depth, 629 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what rotations in at the time. So their 630 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: their game plan was, let's beat Michael Parsons out to 631 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: the edge, and let's cut him at his knees, right, 632 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: Let's take his knees out. Let us let's I want 633 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: you to take all your body look at him straight 634 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: in his quads, and I want you to shoot all 635 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: your body weight at his kneecaps. Whether that was Logan Thomas, 636 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: whether that was offensive tackles, whether that was running backs. 637 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: They did it over and over and over again, and 638 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: it eventually got him to the point where they messed 639 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: him up for a second. Right, his back was jacked 640 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: up for a second, but he came back right. But 641 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: to your point, Rob, that's why you don't want him 642 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: at defensive end, because you can scheme him up and 643 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: you can potentially hurt him. I'm not gonna say that 644 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: guys are intentially trying to hurt you, hurt you out 645 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: there on the field, but they want to they want 646 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: to take you out. It's more dangerous, it's more dangerous, 647 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: it's easier to identify. And I brought that point up 648 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: last year. I think when Heck was here, I don't 649 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: want him there all the time because now I can say, 650 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: take his knees out. Yes, there was a great example 651 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: of why. Yeah, that was a great example of why. 652 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that sounds a whole lot like 653 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: the science Lab call him from last week that I 654 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: circled that exact point. It was about Michael Parsons and 655 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: why logistically everyone needs to stop saying he should be 656 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: committed full time to defensive end. These are the exact 657 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: reasons I had just laid them out for you, ladies 658 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: and gentlemen. What you would prefer it is for Michael 659 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: Parsons to continue to be a weapon, a versatile guy 660 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: that you can move around and you have to keep 661 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: the opposing offensive coordinator guessing where's Walden or where's Waldo. 662 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: Once you pigeonhole him to the edge, be at the 663 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: left side or the right side, he's infinitely more simple 664 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: to scheme against. So you don't want to do that. 665 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: Yesterday was a perfect example. But kind of circling back 666 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: to Donovan Wilson really quickly. You talk about guys, you know, 667 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: someone telling everyone about a particular player, Donovan Wilson. I 668 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: got the receipts. Yeah. Rob Phillips has been on himself 669 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: from the beginning. My guy from Kyle Field. And when 670 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: we say day one, we since college, and we say 671 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: day one, we mean Day one, Donovan Wilson came in 672 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: with the traits that we're seeing him capitalize on now, 673 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: specifically as they're being refined under under Dan quinn Um. 674 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: But you saw in twenty twenty breakout season. It was 675 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: his career with the Cowboys was only slowed by injury 676 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, So what we're seeing in twenty 677 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: twenty two could have easily been occurring last season if 678 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: not for injury. So now he's he's basically doubling up 679 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: on the success he had in twenty twenty. He is 680 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: bordering on elite. I don't want to I don't want 681 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: to use the E word just yet on it, but 682 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: he is teetering dangerously close. No, because if I say that, 683 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: then then you got to be able to put him 684 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: up there with like a Jesse Bates and things like that. Close. Listen, 685 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: objectively speaking, if I I'll see this, I'll say this, 686 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: that's why. Okay, And I'm a player at getting that back, 687 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: get your back. If I see only a couple more 688 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: games of this from Donovan Wilson, I'm gonna throw the 689 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 1: E word on his jersey, and I'm gonna say Donovan 690 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: Wilson is an elite safety right now, what Nurse um 691 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: it hybrid because he's not a he's not a full 692 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: blone safety. He's a linebacker and a safety. He's elite 693 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: at what he does. Donald's been doing the same thing 694 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: jay Ron would do for the most part. Jay Ron 695 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: has has more assignments, he more coverage assignments, and he's 696 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: also tasked with deleting people like George Kittle for example, 697 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: where Donald is more tasked with we talk about covering 698 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: in space and clean up duty and things like that. 699 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: It's two different roles, which is why and I'm glad 700 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: you mentioned Jyron Curse because a lot of people were saying, well, 701 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: once jay Ron comes back, how do you fit him 702 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: in easily? You fit him in by putting him back 703 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: in because the Cowboys bass isn't technically a four three 704 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: as much as it is a big nickel, so you're 705 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: gonna typically run three safeties in The third safety is 706 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: actually the hybrid and jay Ron Curse. That's why both 707 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: Curse and Wilson started in week one and played a 708 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: healthy about it. If you go back to twenty twenty, 709 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: he was the almost like the one guy that was like, 710 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: all right, this is how Michael Carthy, this is how 711 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: I want my defense to play. Just yeah, and like 712 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: going back to college, sometimes his aggressiveness got the better 713 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: of him targeting. That was a problem for him in college, 714 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: but like that's what they needed in twenty twenty and 715 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: he kind of reshaped what they wanted. Then dan Quinn 716 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: comes in, Jayron Curse turned out to be way more 717 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: versatile and effective than they expected. And yeah, and it 718 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: kind of limited a little bit of what Dono could do. 719 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: But man, he's led the team in tackles the last 720 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: two weeks. Um, he's he could be a big part 721 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: of it. And he's getting better. That's the big thing too, 722 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: because confidence. Kind of going back to what Isaiah was 723 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: talking about and Rob Rob hit this too. But the 724 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: interior of the defensive line for the Cowboys was so stout. 725 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: Even when Washington tried to run the football, they didn't 726 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: do it inside. I would love to go back and 727 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: see the numbers on how their yardage stacked up outside 728 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: of the hash marks compared to like inside the tackle box, 729 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: because they did not run effectively inside the tackle box. 730 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: If they had rushing yardage, it was either on the 731 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 1: outside or it was passing yardage. That was a screen 732 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: that just kind of went that way too. That's because 733 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: our cornerbacks were retreating. Yeah, that's I mean, call of spade, spade. 734 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: Our cornerbacks did not play aggressive. Name Trey von Dix. Yeah, 735 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: he wasn't good in the running. He wanted no parts 736 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: of the contact of the running game out there or 737 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 1: the screen game. It's just the film is the film. Yeah, 738 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry. I would say it to his 739 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: face too. It just he didn't He didn't play downhill 740 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: in Abergarden. Did he make plays defensively as a defensive 741 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: bagall in the passing game absolutely destroyed it. Right, But 742 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: I think one of the what he showed last week 743 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: his willingness to come up and tackle. That needs to 744 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: be more present every week. It can't be a light on, 745 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: light off thing. And as we start talking about him 746 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: being in this elite conversation, right, elite, you know, defensive back, 747 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: an elite cornerback in this league. That part of your 748 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: game has to show up. And that's why conversations of 749 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Ram, that's why he gets paid what he gets paid, 750 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: because he comes up and he hits yea, yeah, you 751 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 1: can't take care. You can't. You know, you're barely gonna 752 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: get went on with the ball in the air, and 753 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: if you run the ball to his side, you're probably 754 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: gonna get hit. And that's the reason why he's in 755 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: a conversation of his own. 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Isaiah Stanback, Patrick No C Walker, Rob Phillips, 803 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's Chris Beam in the back is always 804 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: running this thing like a well oiled machine. That's what 805 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: I saw when I came in this mone What did 806 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: you see? They're not our particular sponsor? Was it a kangaroo? 807 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys? I saw a Ford lightning? Whoa in the 808 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: parking lot? I parked right now, it's mine there you 809 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: gonna you know what I'm gonna. I'm just gonna go 810 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: ahead and scale big money. I have a Ford Lightning 811 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: one day. Oh oh you can go with a Ridgeway 812 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: accent better, Harry Jones. What better show could they have 813 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 1: it to sponsor? Then? Those that believe in electric m hmm, 814 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: I mean talking Cowboys, we support electric? No, yeah, around 815 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: here it's a green show, a very green show. Look 816 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, the blue Water Well, I do support. 817 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: I also build cars, so I also your build didn't 818 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: know that we need to talk about that. That's that's fun. 819 00:40:52,760 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: So um. Also, you know, support being loud Texas type Texas. Yeah, yeah, 820 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 1: I think that's kind. Where before we get to helmet 821 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: sticker and you had a stat that you wanted to 822 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: get to, Yes, you you made an excellent point, kind 823 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 1: of a segue to something I was thinking of yesterday 824 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: as well, Robin I discussed it. It looked like at 825 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: times the Cowboys were seeing the right side of their 826 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: defensive line attacked time and time again by Antonio Gibson. 827 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: Because it so forth and so on. So what you 828 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: said before the break prompted me to take a look 829 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: at next gym stats. So credits next gym stats for this. 830 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: But Antonio Gibson, of his thirteen carries for forty nine yards, 831 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: nearly twenty of those yards were gained on, you know, 832 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: running to his left, which with him the Cowboys right 833 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 1: of their defensive line. Three of those were five were 834 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: gainers of five or more. He struggled for the most 835 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: part getting up to getting in between the gaps, but 836 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: he was able to, you know, get a little bit 837 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 1: of leeway there. But it goes to the overall point 838 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: of the interior defensive for the Cowboys was playing quite 839 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: well yesterday, even after the loss of Quentin Bohanna. They're 840 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: going to need to show up when it comes to 841 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: run defense. They're going to definitely need to show up 842 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: that edge because Washington not going to say exposed it, 843 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: but Washington showed a soft spot there that Dan Quinn 844 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: and his defensive staff they're going to need to tighten up, 845 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 1: especially going against a team like Los Angeles. In Los Angeles, 846 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: if you allow Los Angeles to establish the run, they 847 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 1: are going to tee off with Cooper Cup and Matthew Stafford. 848 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: So something there to keep an eye on. Out of 849 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: his forty nine yards, which that's not a lot. Dallas 850 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: did a really good job of bottling him up. But 851 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: forty nine yards, only twelve of them came within the tackles. 852 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of what we were talking about earlier. So 853 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: inside the tackles you've been great. Outside contain it's been 854 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: spotty at best at times, but overall the defense still 855 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: looks fantastic. All right, Rob Phillips, you get to start 856 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: us off this week. Some helmet stickers. Every week we 857 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: do this during a Cowboys win. Here on talking Cowboys, 858 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 1: giving out our players of the game. I'm gonna leave 859 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: Dono to no see if he wants him. Hey, I'll 860 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: take it. Hey somebody, Well you can take it, but 861 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: what hey is reserved for day owners day winners. Yeah, somebody. 862 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: I'll just go ahead. Somebody's gotta take Michael Gallup, welcome 863 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: back the numbers. He had the touchdown which was on 864 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: a great scrambled drill which we watched every day in 865 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: Ox and Ard, And look, he didn't get a lot 866 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 1: of work with Cooper Rush. He's had two weeks instant impact. 867 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: Instant impact, only two catches for twenty four yards, but 868 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: I think two drawn penalties for over sixty yards. He 869 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: could have been over one hundred if he hadn't gotten 870 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: interfered with so excellent job. What he did exactly what 871 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: we've talked about. He got deep, he threatened him deep. 872 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: He opened things up for the other guys, and that's 873 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: only going to continue going forward. So happy for him. 874 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: He apps there was donut for Michael Gallup finally getting 875 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: MG thirteen is back. We're gonna go to No, you 876 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: have to they stole mine so to find one. So 877 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm going with Donovan Wilson aka Donald Wilson aka uh 878 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: your worst night mayor in Space, and I'm going with 879 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: the Pineapple. The reason I'm going with the Pineapple is 880 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: those who are fans of the comedian Kevin Hart. No. 881 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: There's kind of a running joke that he has as 882 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: far as safe words are concerned, and I feel like 883 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: the more an opposing offense goes against Donovan Wilson, the 884 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: more they try to get past him, the more he 885 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: goldbergs them into oblivion, the more they start looking for 886 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: their safe word, and the safe word is pineapple. Okay, 887 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: So Donovan Wilson gets the pineapple because he has opposing 888 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: ball carriers looking for their safe word every play when 889 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: they see him bearing down on them. So I'm going 890 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: with Donald Donald Wilson Pineapple like it all right? Asa, 891 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: you guys are thieves. You guys are I don't even 892 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: know where fruits this year is? What is that pie? Sure? Yeah? Sure, sure. 893 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: I can't wait till somebody on Twitter comes and calls 894 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: you out for pop over there? Um? I think this 895 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: is the papaya, right, is that it? Sure? Make sure 896 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: you guys tell us I don't know what that is. Um, 897 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of seeds there in that papaya. So 898 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 1: with that, I'm going with C. D Lamb. You see 899 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: what I did there, CD Lamb a little bit, CD 900 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: pen I was on your I was on your head 901 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: like a like a muffin cap the first couple of weeks. Okay, 902 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: but you were starting to show up and show out 903 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: and I like it. I like the confidence. I like 904 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: the consistency, right, and I like the big playability that 905 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: you are now helping your team entrusting you, so keep 906 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. CD. I like it all right? 907 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: Who you got last word to? Ky? Yeah? So I've 908 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: got these two mangoes here. I've got a mango and 909 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: one of them holding like an umbrella. These are the 910 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: two guys in the middle of that defense that spread 911 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: out to just open up and cover up the interior 912 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: defensive line. This is Nevill Gallimore and Quentin behind right 913 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 1: there in the middle. Brother just right in the middle there, 914 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: plugging it up and doing a really good job of 915 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: doing so. The interior of that defensive line, stopping the 916 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: run through the tackles and even providing some pass rush 917 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,399 Speaker 1: at times. Carson Wentz is throwing off his back foot. 918 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: He wasn't able to really settle into the pocket. Give 919 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,800 Speaker 1: me these two guys right there at the front of 920 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: a helmet on the third. Congrats, and you didn't let 921 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: Isaiah throw you off? Right, Yeah, thank goodness. Right, we'll 922 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,919 Speaker 1: talk about it. Throw you off. We'll get it whenever 923 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: we get off the air. Third Cowboys win, third helmet sticker. 924 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: This thing's starting to fill up. Boys like Ohio State. 925 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: We got plenty more to come this week here on 926 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. Back to a full week of shows tomorrow. 927 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: We're taking your calls eight eight, eight, five, five to 928 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: two nine seven. Write it down, be ready to go. 929 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: We're back at nine fifteen tomorrow. We'll take you all 930 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: the way up to ten am. So we'll take your 931 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: calls and talk to Cowboys Nation. Following a twenty five 932 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: to ten win for the Washington Commanders. But that does 933 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: it for us today for Chris Bean, Rob Phillips, Isaiah 934 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: stand Back and Patrick nose Walker. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying 935 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: so long from the Star in Frisco. 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