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Speaker 2: why any There's no such thing as privacy really anymore.

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Speaker 2: So it doesn't mean that he's not abusive, manipulative whatever

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Speaker 2: But that's his son, so you know, psychological issues, depression

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Speaker 2: Everything I do is say is scrutinized. Everyone wants a

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Speaker 2: She basically screwed my whole family over that, vowed not

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Speaker 2: All right, what did you think about that, Karen? That's

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Speaker 1: He's he's speaking from his perspective, But these are two

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Speaker 2: There's a cycle of abuse that has specific components that

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Speaker 2: Her next relationships might look like this. I don't know

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Speaker 2: unless she leaves. I feel like I've been clear on this,

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Speaker 2: what do you want me to say? Because I don't

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Speaker 2: now fuck what you just said. Everything you said you abused,

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Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 2: Reality TV shows set up stunts like this all the

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Repeated cheating is emotional abuse orlaborate Public apologies are manipulatve

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Speaker 2: no matter how many people are in on them. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I think the same fucking thing, but that is not

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Speaker 2: This nigga did not tell her about his family. Women

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Speaker 2: She has become the mascot of a lot of people

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Speaker 2: what happens when y'all flip on Cardi for falling short,

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Speaker 2: that is the problem. She's just trying to deal with it.

432
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: But if she fucking stays with this dude, or you

433
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: find out this is some type of stunt or whatever,

434
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: other decisions that people will decide are terrible. In addition

435
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 2: to these fucking like ashy niggas trying to get a

436
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: win on social media, you know, like they try to

437
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: turn Beyonce staying with j and Tua quote unquote when

438
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 2: and a lot of people to this day hate jay

439
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: Z mostly because ashey niggas think how he kept his

440
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: woman at the cheating you know, Like, I'm just trying

441
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 2: to stay above the fray with all of that shit

442
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: and just focus on the humanity of it, which is

443
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: it's really up to her, you know. Anyway, I don't

444
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: think people should pressure Cardi to do anything in this situation,

445
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 2: just like I know, pressuring anyone to leave a relationship

446
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: before they already is kind of productive. That doesn't mean

447
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: that what is happening here is an abusive and calling

448
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: it abuse doesn't mean he is hitting her. It also

449
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: means we can't be certain he isn't. It's so weird

450
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: because in a way. You sound just like me. This

451
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: is what I've been saying. I don't know if it's

452
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: just because I'm a dude and I'm talking about this,

453
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: and then it's just like, Okay, this guy's talking about it,

454
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: let me go straighten him out because I'm saying the

455
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: same things. I don't know that he's not hitting her.

456
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: I said that so many times in the last two

457
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 2: days it might as well be on repeat. I don't

458
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: know what that this hasn't escalated already. I don't know

459
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: that it never has. I don't know that it ever will.

460
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: You know what, I don't know. None of us actually

461
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: know these people and what is happening behind the scenes.

462
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: They are celebrities are one of them is a reality start.

463
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: One of them shares parts of their life on Instagram

464
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: and shit like that. That's how they got famous. We

465
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 2: don't know them, though, you see what I'm saying. I

466
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: don't know them. I never thought of All Set having

467
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 2: a daddy until today, you know, and I'm definitely not

468
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: an expert on abusive relationships. So if people feel like, look,

469
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: I was able to take one look and that's a

470
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: woman that gets beat. Okay, I don't know that that's

471
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 2: not my thing, so I can't give you that on this.

472
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: You know, I asked genuinely that you question your response

473
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: to this, just as you are asking others to do. Yeah,

474
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: I mean I do. I question my response before we

475
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 2: go into air every day. I think about these things

476
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: before I say them. I don't just try to like

477
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: freestyle it out here. But like I said, maybe it's

478
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 2: just my own privilege. I mean, Karen's here the whole time.

479
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: I know she gets quiet during this part, but at

480
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: Lench she was talking a lot, but she but but

481
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny because we agree on these things

482
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: most for the most part, and we talk about them.

483
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: But this type of thing is normally targeted towards me.

484
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: And maybe it's because I am a dude, you know,

485
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: like you're not allowed to have an opinion unless it

486
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: agrees one hundred percent with mine, which is fine if

487
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: that's what you believe. But you know, just being clear,

488
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 2: I do think categorizing this is abuse is not some stretch.

489
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 7: You know.

490
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: At the same time, do I know that this dude

491
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 2: is doing things behind the scenes that people were saying

492
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: he's going to do or has or will do or whatever.

493
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, and we're being honest, none of us

494
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: really knows, you know, And I don't think that that's

495
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: some like I'm not trying to get on here and

496
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: like tap dance for folks and be like, let me

497
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: just ride the wave of what everybody's saying to be

498
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: the most hyperbolic, because that's not me, that's not real.

499
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 2: I'm a liver. I'm always somewhere trying to consider like

500
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 2: both sides of a thing. Right, The things that I

501
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: think for sure are he is absolutely being emotionally manipulative

502
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: by getting these men like tweet. I saw footage of

503
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: him with twenty one Savage on stage and they had

504
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: a chance like take car already, take him back or

505
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: some shit like that, And I mean, the fuck they

506
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: got to do with your relationship? Man, Why is this

507
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: other nigga involved?

508
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 4: What is he?

509
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 7: You know?

510
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: When you got you know, these other like personalities like

511
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: fifty cent in the game and shit speaking on this relationship.

512
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: You know, they don't have the best interest in mine.

513
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: You know, they don't care. Little Devall doesn't care about

514
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 2: this relationship. It's just something to say to get everybody

515
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: riled up and pissed off, you know, so you know,

516
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure what else needs to be said

517
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: on my end, because to me, there's a lot of

518
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: shit that y'all would be like, oh, he considers that

519
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: fucked up, and y'all live it. And I'm not saying

520
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: y'all are bad people, but it's not for me. I

521
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: don't have sex when one of us is drunk ever, period,

522
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: That's not my thing. I'll just wait for you to

523
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: go to sleep and just I see you in the morning.

524
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: Some of y'all go out get drunk, half sex and

525
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: like that's fun for you. That's to you, that's like

526
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 2: a romantic thing. We got drunk and then we had

527
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: sex and all we passed out, And I'm like, yeah,

528
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 2: I would never that seems like some type of violation.

529
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: I like to be clear headed. You know, there's stuff

530
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: y'all do. I don't know. There's a bunch of shit

531
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: that people do that's not that uncommon, you know, jealousy

532
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: related stuff, sexual shit, who can have what kind of friends?

533
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: And shit. And I've had to make a pact with myself,

534
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: which is that ultimately I don't get to tell other

535
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: people as long as they're can sending adults what the

536
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: fuck makes their relationship because the only thing that really

537
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: is measured for the value of relationships for most people

538
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: is gonna end up being time. Y'all. A lot of

539
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: y'all here. We were together twenty years and y'all just

540
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: oh my god, and y'all swoon. It don't matter if

541
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: they were beating each other for twenty of them years

542
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: or not. Y'all don't care. Y'all just want to see

543
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: the cake. Y'all just want to see the celebration. Y'all

544
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: just want to, like, like the status on Facebook. We

545
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: don't know each other like that. As far as like

546
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: all of us as human beings, people mostly only show

547
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: us the happy parts and the good parts of their relationships.

548
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, people mostly only really root for

549
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: the result.

550
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 8: You know.

551
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: We were on WestEd Tea and someone had talked about

552
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: Beyonce and jay Z, how you know, and I think

553
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: everybody got ready to kind of scoff it, like you

554
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: comparing this to Beyonce and jay Z, And I'm like,

555
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: I actually don't know what jay Z really did to

556
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: get Beyonce back.

557
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: Nobody does.

558
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: I know.

559
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: He had a lig where he said I embarrassed you

560
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: out in Paris. We just didn't see it whatever it was.

561
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: So maybe he did do something. I don't know, But

562
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: how many people see them as goals and relationship goals

563
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: because they figured a way to make it work. How

564
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: many people have now had to let that go because

565
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: they did? You know, I think because I'm not being

566
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: black and white about it, and I'm not being neat

567
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: about it, and I'm not being simple about it, it

568
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: must be frustrating the folks that I'm not just getting

569
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: up here in demagogue. I literally look at most people's

570
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: relationships this way, like somebody will tell me some shit

571
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: they did where it's like, you know, my wife handles

572
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: all the money. She just gives me a one hundred

573
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: dollars allowance every week, and that's what I And I'm like, nigga,

574
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: don't have access to your money? Huh, hey, what that's you?

575
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: You?

576
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: If that is how y'all like to run your relationship,

577
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: it's really not my fucking business. Someone else listening to

578
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: this will be like, you are financially abused. You do

579
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: not have access to your money, and that person is

580
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: running you. You know, if it were the opposite genders,

581
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: people might be like, well, now it's abused. There's a

582
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: lot of different scenarios that other people have figured out

583
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: work for them that I would say were shady to me,

584
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: you know. And one of these things is these grand

585
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: romantic gestures, as y'all call them, these fucking like propoblic

586
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: proposals in public. Everybody's like, I hate the polar proposal.

587
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: Apparently some people don't because they be saying yes and

588
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: getting married and staying together. What the fuck am I

589
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: to say? You got abused, you got manipulated into marrying

590
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: the man of your dreams? Am I supposed to say?

591
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: That?

592
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: We have fucking TV shows on every goddamn day, and

593
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: some of y'all watch these shits ninety Day Fiance, the

594
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: fucking Uh, the Bachelor, the Bachelorette, these like they're all

595
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: fucking weird, toxic, horrible for examples of what I would

596
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: consider to be how you build a relationship. They're all

597
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: terrible to me, and yet America, the world has an

598
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: obsession with this shit. So I have to check out

599
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: a bit on a lot of these individual situations because

600
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: I don't fucking know what the post is for everybody.

601
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not trying to piss people off, but these.

602
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: To me, a lot of this shit is just foul.

603
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: And so the grand romantic gesture that has been a

604
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: staple and most rom com and all these stories we've

605
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: been told since we were fucking kids, it has fucked

606
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: us up. It has fucked us up happily ever after.

607
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: It's fucked us up to be honest. Monogamous marriage has

608
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: fucked us up to be honest. A marriage between a

609
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: man and a woman has fucked us up to be honest.

610
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: You want to keep going like all this shit is

611
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: kind of fucked up because most people's lives don't fit

612
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: any neat little boxes. So when I'm looking at someone

613
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: else's relationship and I have to analyze that and go,

614
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: all right, this is what it means for everybody, I

615
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: don't fucking know what it means for everybody. Everybody picks

616
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: different shit, even the people within that relationship. What I

617
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: hope is that it's not some shit where.

618
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: You know.

619
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: What I hope is that that's a young person's mistake.

620
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: That's what I would say. What I hope, the highest

621
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: of hopes is that he did He's doing something to

622
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: get his woman back, quote unquote, and this shit will

623
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: die out and he'll realize this was very foolish and

624
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: stupid and move the fuck on, and their relationship will,

625
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: whether it's co parents or romantically, will mature and they'll

626
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: be Okay, that's not what I think is gonna happen, though,

627
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: you know, because it don't normally work out like that

628
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: for most people, you know, especially, and that's most people

629
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: that's not on drugs rich all this shit. There's so

630
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: many moving parts here, so I feel like I have

631
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: gone into as much detail on this as one will require,

632
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: even more than I would like, because it's really the

633
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: kind of news story that I think we don't know

634
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: enough to be having these deep conversations about it, because

635
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: if it would be sad and hilarious, if we found

636
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: out this shit was all some type of weird ass

637
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: like playing, it would be so fucking it would be

638
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: what we deserve, though, because that's the culture we live

639
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: in now. It really is like, here's my hot take,

640
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: and this is the only way it could be seen,

641
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: and then twenty four hours later we find out some

642
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: new shit and we'd be like, Okay, so it wasn't that,

643
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: but let me tell you why I still was around.

644
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's the thing I can give you.

645
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: The more I don't fucking know what she's what she's

646
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: going to do, what she should do. I don't know

647
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: what people are gonna consider this shit, you know, I

648
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 2: don't know. And if you wanna, if you wanna call

649
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 2: it abuse, I'm telling you that's fine. I agree with

650
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: you that you can call it that. And I think

651
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: it's abusive behavior myself and think I would never do

652
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 2: this and would not want it done to me. Right,

653
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: So we agree on that. If tomorrow I'm I gonna

654
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: get another like, all right, let me tell you how

655
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: this wasn't good enough. This is this is what I got.

656
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: The truth, which is I don't know these motherfuckers, and

657
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: I hope it's not as bad as it looked. And

658
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: I hope that it's not as bad as people are

659
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: saying it's going to be. I hope they're wrong, you know.

660
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 2: But that's the thing about speculation. I don't know any

661
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: more than you know, you know, as far as their

662
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: personal relationship, we may see, all right, I'm sorry.

663
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: M m no, that's fine.

664
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: And I do think in my personal opinion, because most

665
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: people when it comes to.

666
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: This offset stuff, Offset and Cardi b stuff.

667
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: It's so much behind, and it is so much feelings,

668
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: and people have emotions and their own personal experience, and

669
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: people are projecting and people. It's something that's stirring up

670
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: in people. And for some people, this is triggering. And

671
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: in my opinion, a lot of those words, when you

672
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: use those words, those are quote unquote buzzwords. And I

673
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: think when people hear those words, a lot of people

674
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: they automatically shut down or they automatically have such a

675
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: negative response to it that they don't hear anything past

676
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: that point. And because a lot of the things that

677
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: people are bringing up you've talked about and you've addressed,

678
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: it's almost like we're going around in circles.

679
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm just this is just me.

680
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: In my opinion, you kind of are re explaining it now.

681
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm re explaining stuff I already said.

682
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: That's how I feel, right, you are re explaining yourself again.

683
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: So in my opinion, you know, regardless of I feel

684
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: like because we didn't come and just set everything on fire,

685
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: and because we didn't come and.

686
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 3: Say he's a piece of shit, he was wrong, it's abusive, fuck.

687
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: Him, like we didn't come out that harsh. It does

688
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 1: not mean we don't feel like that in certain aspects

689
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: of what has happened. And I think that a lot

690
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: of people they used to people's hot takes about stuff.

691
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: And people just coming in with just this anger and

692
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: no nuance and stuff.

693
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: Everything for a lot of people is black and white,

694
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: and a lot of times people get that aspect.

695
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: From social media.

696
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: A lot of the feelings on social media are rolling

697
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: out into other areas, and so a lot of times

698
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: when people say things and they're being really nuanced instead

699
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: of people listening, instead of them actually trying to understand.

700
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: Because it's okay to ask questions, it's okay to get

701
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: clarity and understanding. I do understand that, but when it

702
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: comes to the point to where, uh, the person that's

703
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: almost repeating themselves, it's not productive in my opinion, and

704
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: I feel like if we're going to continue to do this,

705
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: we need to push the conversation forward.

706
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: And we can't push the conversation forward because.

707
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: We are not the ones that happened to make the decision,

708
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: regardless if you feel like it's abuse or not, regardless

709
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: if you feel like it could be escalated or not.

710
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, we don't have to

711
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: live with.

712
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: The consequences of Carnie b an All sets decision. Actually,

713
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: we have absolutely possibly nothing to do with it. But

714
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: because it happened on a public platform, public thinks that

715
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: they can voice their opinions. But they have the right

716
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: to voice their opinion.

717
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 3: Nobody telling you you don't have the right to feel

718
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: the way you do.

719
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: Nobody's telling you that you don't have the right to

720
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: be mad, you don't have the right to be upset,

721
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: you don't have the right to say these are the

722
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: characteristics that leave that.

723
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: Nobody's telling you any of that.

724
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: But I think that once people start talking and they

725
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: start phrasing things in a certain way, and people feel.

726
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 3: Like, well, that's not how I would word it, or

727
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: that's not how I would say it. You know, we

728
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: don't have degrees in this, so we're just sharing our

729
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: personal opinions. We don't have the right clinical words, we

730
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: don't use the right work phrases all the time, and

731
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: things like that.

732
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: And I think that sometimes if you don't come to

733
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: some people in the absolute line and step on how

734
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: they would view it, sometimes people feel like, well, you

735
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: just don't agree with me, because the person that just

736
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: wrote we actually agree with you, sweetie.

737
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 3: I don't know who you are, but we actually agree

738
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: with you, and actually we.

739
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: Are saying the exact same thing, right, But it's for

740
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: the fact that what we said and.

741
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: What you heard sometimes those things don't connect because.

742
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: It's not even now I'm saying it's not it can't

743
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: be labeled as abuse. What I'm saying is that it's

744
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: not on the level quote unquote of where people were

745
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: talking about it on Twitter and social media. They were

746
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: already at she's going to get killed. So if you

747
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: want me to hop in and be like she's gonna

748
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: get killed, this man is going to kill or that

749
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: is what is going to happen, I'm no. Then I

750
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: guess I am not there, you know what I mean,

751
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: And only because I can't tell the fucking future and

752
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: I don't have enough experience with this to be like

753
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: that's definitely what's gonna happen. And I don't feel like

754
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: I know them in a way to say that you know,

755
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: and and honestly, I hope it doesn't go there, to

756
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 2: be honest, I mean, I remember when Sierra went through

757
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: her shit with Future, and it's I don't want to

758
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: take it personal, but it's low key a little, a

759
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: little insulting because I know you listen to the show.

760
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: I know you've heard me talk about Sierra in Future.

761
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: I know you've heard, Like, if you've listened to the

762
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: show long enough, you've heard what I think about niggas

763
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: when they get in these situations where they're abusive to

764
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: the mother of their child, or where they're like mad

765
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: about child support, or they're stalking people and shit like

766
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: ty Reese was doing his ex. Like the sad part

767
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: is this abusive part of it is the psychle good

768
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: and bad. When they come out of it sometimes and

769
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: they're not as fucked up as it seemed like they

770
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: were going to be, they still did these things. You know,

771
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: some of the couples that quote unquote made it out,

772
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: they still did these things, the things Future said about Sierra,

773
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 2: and she had to get like to sue him, and

774
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: she was the one that had to be quiet, and

775
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: people assume the worst of her like they always do

776
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: with black women these child support situations. You know, if

777
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: you listen to Balls the Sports, the things I talk

778
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: about with Matt Barnes, I know I'm the only motherfucker.

779
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: Me and Justin got to be the onliest motherfucker's talking

780
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: about we think Matt barn is a piece of shit.

781
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: I know that showed me the shows. Everybody on Matt

782
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: Barnes side, every media outlet with all of them are

783
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: he's fine getting his child back. So I don't know,

784
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: it's a little bit like I get that you want to,

785
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: you know, tell my colde and I shouldn't take a

786
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: personal criticism why, but it's just at some point it's

787
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: almost like it's the misunderstanding on purpose, like you really

788
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: think I'm sitting around like, well, you know what, what

789
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 2: he did? It was okay, I mean, wasn't that bad.

790
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: I mean it was a little weird, But no, I'm

791
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: saying it's fucked up, and I don't know what else

792
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: to say because the rest of it is up to

793
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: people that aren't us.

794
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: And also it's one of those things because you're not

795
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: no ashy ass nigga.

796
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 3: You know, I'm just kidding, He's Roger's not an ashy

797
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: ass nigga.

798
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: There's nothing that he has said or done and make

799
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: you think Rod's intention would be so fucked up unless

800
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: it's a joke, would be so fucked up that he

801
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: would just come and just say things without him having

802
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: thoughts behind it, without any nuance behind it or any any.

803
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: Of that stuff. You know, I do understand he's a man,

804
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: and I do understand he has privileged and I do understand.

805
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: That abuse is real and people have had their ass

806
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: with and kill over abusive relationships.

807
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 3: I do understand that. I understand the anger. I understand the.

808
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: Fear for her.

809
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 3: We understand that.

810
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: And we're not saying that that's not valid, and we're

811
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: not saying that that's not right, but we're saying we

812
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: also don't know. And it's okay for you to say

813
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. And you are projecting when you make

814
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: assumptions about our relationship that you're not in.

815
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: That's the form of projecting. You're taking your own personal.

816
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: Experiences or how you feel or how have you seen

817
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: things happen to other people, then going this is how

818
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: I think it should go.

819
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: You have the right to do that, but it's projecting.

820
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: And I think that when you say that, people they

821
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: clinch up and they act like that's a bad thing.

822
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: But everybody projects. Everybody does it. But you can project

823
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: and say but I don't know, and saying I don't.

824
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: Know, I don't know.

825
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: We live in a society. Well I don't know, and

826
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: just ain't an answer for some people. But I don't know.

827
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 3: You don't know. Nobody knows, you know, And it's one

828
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: of the things that.

829
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: It's kind of frustrating because when you say I don't know,

830
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: nobody can fight against that.

831
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 3: When you say I don't know, it literally stops the world.

832
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 3: I don't know. Oh, okay, you know, because everybody.

833
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: Comes with they hot takes, they hot points with their pitchforks.

834
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: Everybody comes with they you know, they knives, ready to,

835
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: particularly on social media, ready to just to cut you

836
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: to death.

837
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: When everything does not require that level of interaction, sometimes

838
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 3: we can just talk. Sometimes it's okay to say I

839
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: don't know.

840
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's okay to be like, well, this is how

841
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: I feel, but I don't know about their relationship.

842
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you what we see on social media

843
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: with this is how it is. There's no other way

844
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: to see it other than X, Y and Z, this

845
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: is what this is.

846
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: These other characteristics up their which is fine, but that

847
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: but from what we know, we don't know, and nobody

848
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: is willing to say I don't know, because if they

849
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: get back together, how you are gonna feel when everybody

850
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: has been on social media. A lot of people have

851
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: been on social media talking trash about all the parties involved, like,

852
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 1: because the thing is, we've seen normal ass, regular ass

853
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: people that work normal nine to five, your mama, your daddy,

854
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: your unts, your cousins that have been through some of

855
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: the same things that they've been through.

856
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: It just wasn't on a public platform.

857
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: A lot of people have toxic and abusive shit in

858
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: their relationships as not part of a necessarily a cycle,

859
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: but they have the moments a lot of y'all you

860
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: know I'm talking about, And I'm not saying like showing

861
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: up to somebody's work to beg forgiveness or something, but

862
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: I'm saying it's a lot of shit that I would

863
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: look at and be like, yeah, that was crazy, and

864
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: somehow y'all made it through and turned out Okay. I

865
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: mean on y'all, that's fine, I guess, But I also

866
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: know enough to know that means I don't know everything,

867
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: because to me, I feel like those are all deal breakers, right.

868
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: And also, the thing is, nobody is condoning abuse.

869
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: I don't know why people are like, well, you're just

870
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: saying that it's okay to get your ass.

871
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 3: No, nobody's saying. That's why I say, what are you hearing?

872
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: You know, because I'm gonna keep it real.

873
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: I will here too, like I was sitting here doing

874
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: the whole conversation also, and so you know, if I

875
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: would have felt like Roderick was saying something out of

876
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: pocket or something like that, I would have said something

877
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: to him, you know, because sometimes I think that people

878
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: think I just sit here and we just one hundred

879
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: percent agree about everything, and we don't, you.

880
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 3: Know, just because we don't raise our voices, and just.

881
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: Because he don't call me a bitch and I don't

882
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: call him an ash ass nigga, it does not mean

883
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: that we don't always agree on things. And I think

884
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: that because we're very nuanced about things, and because I'm.

885
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: A lot more soft spoken on things.

886
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: That sometimes people don't take me seriously. And me and

887
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: Right just talked about this sometimes, I think.

888
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: When it comes because Roger is vocal and I'm a

889
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: lot more vocal than I used to be.

890
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: But we're bof on this show together, and sometimes, you know,

891
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna keep rerial. Sometimes I feel

892
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: like I'm being dismissed. As though we don't, we aren't

893
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: in agreeance with these things. And so, you know, I

894
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: feel the same way that you do too. But I

895
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: think that sometimes people respond to you definitely did they

896
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: respond to me?

897
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: And sometimes it respond to me diffinitely, did they respond

898
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: to you?

899
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: And sometimes I think that it does have to do

900
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: with people's own bias within themselves.

901
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 2: But every time we step into a gender Wars type

902
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: of topic, this kind of thing does happen where if

903
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: it's an issue with something that was said on the show,

904
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 2: it's going to be addressed to me because it's a

905
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: gender Wars thing, and you know, if we fall short,

906
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: it's me falling short, right, you know, because there's an

907
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: innate and I don't think it's done on purpose, but

908
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: doesn't an assumption that even if you agree with me,

909
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: it's because you're my wife and you have to agree

910
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: with me or some weird shit like that, you know,

911
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: I thing some.

912
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 3: People do feel like that. Yeah, And also it's one

913
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 3: of the things will own the low.

914
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: A lot of people might not write in, but they

915
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, they see ourship and they view our relationship

916
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: and they just think it's some stronghold and you're just

917
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: telling me what to do, and you're just bossing me around,

918
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: and and and you know I have to agree with you,

919
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: and and I don't have.

920
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: A voice and an opinion on my own. But none

921
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: of that is it is true.

922
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: I am a I am my own independent person, you know.

923
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: And Roger has been with me long enough to know

924
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: that if I don't agree, I don't. I don't have

925
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: a fear on him that I cannot voice my opinion,

926
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: right so I think.

927
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: And and like I said, it's a it's definitely a

928
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: gender thing because these type of topics, the only time

929
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: we really get this type of feedback is gonna be

930
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 2: for me, you know, whether we said the same things,

931
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: whether you agree with everything, whether you didn't, it's gonna

932
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: be for me. But in which I understand because I

933
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: mean me too. You know, I get why people would

934
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: be worried that I was, you know, gonna be up

935
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: in here somehow being like, well, I guess that's okay.

936
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: Like I don't think it's okay. I do also want

937
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: to say that, as I said multiple times, and just

938
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: want to reiterate before we move on, which is if

939
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: people define this as abuse for themselves or whatever on

940
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 2: the internet, I understand and I get it me too.

941
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: I feel like I can't say that enough, but it

942
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: seems like no matter what I say, if I don't

943
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 2: join in, then I'm somehow the bad guy here, which

944
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 2: if that is where the disagreement is, then that's fine.

945
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: But I do find it to be personally to be abusive,

946
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: to be something that is toxic too. I've only seen

947
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: Cardi b in relationships I would define as toxic from

948
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: the second she was on Love and Hip Hop till now.

949
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: Whether she was the person that was the side check

950
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: or whether she was the main woman, it always had

951
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: some level of toxicity to it that she was willing

952
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: to deal with. And she's only twenty four, twenty five

953
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: years old. This could be some shit that a lot

954
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: of twenty five and twenty four year old women dealt with.

955
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: Some of them are not with us today because the

956
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: niggas that they dealt with that did that shit, did

957
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: take it there. And I really do hope that that's

958
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: not what happens with Cardi. I'm not willing to say

959
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: that is what will happen, but if that, but if

960
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: it reminds people of that, if that, if his actions

961
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: on that stage triggered people, and not like I said,

962
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: that's not a dismissive way of saying it. If it

963
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: triggered people, then to being like, hey, I knew a

964
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 2: dude that he would do these grand gestures after these

965
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: fucking abusive things. The other thing is cheating and lying

966
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: and emotional abuse are probably the most common forms of abuse, agreed.

967
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: But because they're common, a lot of people have decided

968
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: that they're kind of okay. And I don't understand that,

969
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: you know, I don't understand when when people say an athlete, well,

970
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: you got married to an athlete. Of the course he's

971
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 2: gonna cheat. I don't understand that most people do seem

972
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: to think that that is a reasonable thing. You got

973
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: with a famous, attractive man. Of course he's going to cheat.

974
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: It's actually really your fault as a woman to expect

975
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: him not to cheat and to be upset about it.

976
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: There are people who walk this earth and not and

977
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: like not few and far between you that are like, yes,

978
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: with a certain amount of money, that's that's okay. I'm

979
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: not one of those people. But I know that love

980
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: is such a personal thing for motherfuckers that things I

981
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: think are fucked up are things that y'all make work

982
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: all the time all the time. I'm just like, what,

983
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: no work? So how did okay? Like, I don't know.

984
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: You know, It's funny because when Insecure was on and

985
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: Molly found out her parents had a dad and affair

986
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 2: on her mom and they still worked it out. Twitter

987
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: is kind of like Molly. They try to act like

988
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 2: Molly was tripping that day, but y'all kind of aren't

989
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: like them. Like it's like, it's very much like this

990
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: isn't perfect. In my mind, it was perfect, And I'm like, yeah,

991
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: you don't want to know the dirt in anybody. Shit,

992
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: No you don't, cause the dirt doesn't look good on

993
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: a resume. It just doesn't. But love is not a

994
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: resume for a lot of motherfuckers. It's just not. They

995
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: get they give and let shit go, and they change

996
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: and they evolve and they or they get worse and

997
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: they break up all kinds of shit in the name

998
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: of love. I don't know what y'all would put up with,

999
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: and I can only speak for what I wouldn't put

1000
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: up with. And I don't feel comfortable defining the world

1001
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: by what I would and would not put up with

1002
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: in that way. Because I might be the one that's strange.

1003
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, So anyway, let's move on, man.

1004
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: Hopefully we don't get another person being like, well, what't

1005
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: happened yesterday was you didn't say it this way? Because

1006
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: I feel like that's as fucking clay as they can get.

1007
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: All right, Vice ceo. So Vice got a new CEO,

1008
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: I believe, and they had some thoughts on it was

1009
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: really an inside a small comment in a long article.

1010
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 2: But Vice has a new CEO and she was interviewed

1011
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: by l magazine, I believe, and she talked about Jesus

1012
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: and Meryl going to showtime. Now Deesus and Meryll left

1013
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: WECE to go to showtime. Vice was so weird about it,

1014
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: and I think she may be the new CEO. So

1015
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if she was there when this happened,

1016
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: y'all let me know, but she uh, but but she

1017
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: was saying she was asked about them or whatever and

1018
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: them moving to showtime. Well, when this happened when WECE,

1019
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: when they ended their tenure with Vice and told them, hey,

1020
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: we're going to showtime, WECE had more episodes that they

1021
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: were supposed to record with them, and they cut it,

1022
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: so they didn't cut, So that means they didn't get

1023
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 2: paid and they didn't have any more episodes to finish

1024
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 2: out their contract. They someone else said that meant they

1025
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 2: didn't get paid. I don't. I don't know about that part.

1026
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: I was not privy to the details of their contract

1027
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: or anything, right, but you can imagine that's kind of

1028
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 2: a fucked the way that they end the tenure, Like

1029
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: that's normally not what we do with the most professional contracts. Right.

1030
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 2: So she was giving us interview, and she said that

1031
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: with them going to showtime, they're going to a platform

1032
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 2: that the audience doesn't pay for. Her name is Nancy

1033
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: dubuc or dual Maybe, I don't know, she says Jesus

1034
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 2: and Merril. I told them you can always come back.

1035
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 2: So a lot of what are.

1036
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you said that's true, why would I

1037
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 3: want to come back?

1038
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: Y'all?

1039
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 3: Y'all cut and show short?

1040
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: So I was thinking about what she said, right, A

1041
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: lot of people got mad, like fuck them, the brandstrong

1042
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: and feeling Uh. She does have a point that you

1043
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: have to pay for showtime in a separate way, then

1044
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: you have to pay for vice.

1045
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 3: Correct.

1046
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: She didn't mention the fact that there's probably people that

1047
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 2: have Showtime but not Vice. News flash. But let's talk

1048
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 2: about Vice. You have to pay to get Vice. It's

1049
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 2: just part of a page of other channels, right correct?

1050
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: In most in most jurisdictions. How did most of us

1051
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: watch Jesus and Merrill's content though?

1052
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 6: Online?

1053
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: Most of us saw it online, whether it's a clip

1054
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 2: on Twitter, whether it's YouTube, Facebook videos, most of us,

1055
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: most of us found their content online. Showtime can easily

1056
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 2: do the same fucking thing. It's not that hard. Now,

1057
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: they might not put a full episode out there. But

1058
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: was Vice doing that really well? Y'all putting out thirty

1059
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: minute episodes just free online. The other thing is they

1060
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: could do that put some ads with it, and now

1061
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: you're cooking so I don't know that. And then you

1062
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 2: kind of fucked up your trump car because you said

1063
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: they can always come back, which I mean, I guess

1064
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 2: that's your I'm sorry, bruh of the situation, cuz.

1065
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: B like, we fucked up, bro, And then you gonna

1066
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: look real stupid if they go over there and become

1067
00:54:59,239 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 1: even bigger.

1068
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, okay, it doesn't work out, then they

1069
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: come back, device what did they lose? Really? So I

1070
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: don't know, man, it's just such a weird a side

1071
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 2: to have at the time. But you know, we'll see.

1072
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,959
Speaker 2: I guess she's paid to make people feel like maybe

1073
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 2: it won't work or something, but yeah, they'll be fine.

1074
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: And the other part is Showtime's getting them because they

1075
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: want us who don't have Showtime to go find a

1076
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: way to see it.

1077
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: And you know people will, so like not everybody, but

1078
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 3: people will.

1079
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think you need to chill out a

1080
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: little bit. And I'm sure that's just in the side.

1081
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: They probably was a very small note in the article,

1082
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: and because I've read a lot of the article, it

1083
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 2: was very long, and I don't know that she meant

1084
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: it a shade, But you gotta think bigger than that,

1085
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: because them news might take that a shade, you know

1086
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: what I mean? All right?

1087
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they can make it free, like you know,

1088
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: how to be having them free weekends is crucive, Like

1089
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: they can put put you know, ten fifteen twenty episodes

1090
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: up the break, you know what we're gonna do.

1091
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 3: A free weekend.

1092
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: They could do anything. You don't know, that's all. You

1093
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: just don't know. So it's like why would you you know,

1094
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 2: why would you even get I don't know.

1095
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 7: Uh.

1096
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: David and Tamala Man released an R and B album

1097
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: offering Christian couples Clean Music to Make Love.

1098
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: Two.

1099
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 2: They're Gonna Make Love to Clean Music's call Us Against

1100
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 2: the World, The Love Project.

1101
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 6: What it sounds like?

1102
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 2: I haven't listened to her? Yeah?

1103
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 4: Have you?

1104
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: So this is your first time hearing about this?

1105
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 3: You know I listened to it.

1106
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: Why sounds why you sound so shady?

1107
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 8: Oa?

1108
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 3: They sound white?

1109
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: They sound white?

1110
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: These people are white.

1111
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: No, David and Tamala Man, I don't know who they are.

1112
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 2: You don't know what Tamila Man is.

1113
00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 4: She be at the.

1114
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: All right, let me put a picture of she be

1115
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: at the BET Awards every year during the gospel segment.

1116
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: I know we've seen her several times. Let me how

1117
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: do I get this on screen?

1118
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: Name?

1119
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: Same with Kurt Franklin Meet the Browns. Yeah, Karen, don't

1120
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 2: watch this black stuff she was talking about. Don't watch

1121
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 2: white stuff. She don't watch black stuff.

1122
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 3: It ain't Stephen Universe. I'm not even gonna lie, y'all.

1123
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: TV is my escape, and I'm like.

1124
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: Tamila Man reminds me, Man, this is so fucked up

1125
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: to say. But this is the truth.

1126
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 5: Uh.

1127
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: Tamla Man reminds me of the the Grapefruit Lady.

1128
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I know who she is.

1129
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 3: She in the Tyler parent movie too.

1130
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: I'm sure she was. Oh so, that's Tamila Man and

1131
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: her husband right there, m h looking like a thick snack.

1132
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: Look over there, she has a gorgeous boy curvy. Ain't

1133
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: so you know he hit not in the name of

1134
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: the Lord. You had to put some some music out

1135
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 2: about it. Nothing wrong with that look smashing them heavily

1136
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: cakes to smithereens. Yes, already out on. It's thirty seven minutes.

1137
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: That's it. We'll see I guess Christian. You know when

1138
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 2: it's the mystery way, just do it?

1139
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 5: Uh?

1140
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: Anyway? You is the title one, Ups and downs, Good Love,

1141
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: I Love You, Making up feels like still do signs

1142
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: and Mason John and Us against the World. None of

1143
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: them titles did anything well you.

1144
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 6: Shut down, sat down.

1145
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna suck them to this in the name of Jesus.

1146
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 8: We've been together seem for ever another lifetime because they

1147
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 8: don't care, how much better, don't care about the weather.

1148
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: Whole longest line.

1149
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 2: With you, I'm safe and won, which thinks so far like, yeah,

1150
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: go give me my holy oil and bring up my

1151
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: life with you.

1152
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 3: It didn't been easy, like we make it through the water.

1153
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: It ain't been per Yeah, I don't know why why

1154
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,479
Speaker 2: be waiting on this? Good love is the next song?

1155
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: The all the all, the auto romanticlon gotta be nasty.

1156
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 4: To hell.

1157
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 3: Like two gangs trying to fight loves the turn.

1158
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: When don't we really need to do?

1159
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 4: He's listening to each other's news on things because that's

1160
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 4: the only way to bang change.

1161
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: I mean, sorry, sorry, you know I don't see I

1162
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: can't tell that much difference between this and other sex

1163
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: I mean love songs. I mean they did say make love,

1164
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: not have nasty ass sex. Will y'all be having it's

1165
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: not booty eating music? But I guess I'm then they

1166
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: got I love you. I'm gonna eat that ass like

1167
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: a sacrament.

1168
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lay hands, don't you like Jesus did?

1169
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: Girl?

1170
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 3: Why don't you go over here and beat my hearty

1171
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 3: the chow holy spirit on my face.

1172
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 5: Can't forget the day that I'll stap you down at

1173
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 5: the table. I had to tell you something so bad

1174
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 5: that might break you, and it tore.

1175
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: My heart just to see you cry to me.

1176
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, you needed something, time.

1177
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: To breathe.

1178
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 5: I remember when you couldn't say nothing, just said down,

1179
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 5: never said nothing to your streaming baby, say something.

1180
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: You took me by my hands and this at all.

1181
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: I guess about cheating. I said I need to play

1182
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 2: for CARDI. Uh ah, you was crying all saying stuff.

1183
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: Please pray with me. I don't know. I think like

1184
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 2: corny Christian couple's gonna fuck to this? What's wrong with this?

1185
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they can't, okay, I mean it's not

1186
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: just you. I'm talking to this. A lot of people

1187
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: was hating on this idea. I don't know. I don't

1188
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: feel like it's a bad idea. What Christian people don't

1189
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: be having sex and stuff or do it all a baby?

1190
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 3: Somebody doing something?

1191
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: Because Trey songs ain't singing about eating your groceries. It

1192
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 2: can't be a love song these days. What is happening

1193
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: to us? What has happened to us America? What's wrong

1194
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: with corny ass love? Love is corny as fuck? If

1195
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: it's good, if it's no, that's true. That was the

1196
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: problem with I'll say and boring ill said with this

1197
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: cool ass I'm sorry, bro love. Don't nobody want that

1198
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 2: trash come be corny for me? Mm hmm track anyway, yeah.

1199
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 3: Because I'm trying to get in and get all up

1200
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 3: into you.

1201
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: I you know, I know we Jesus and things, and

1202
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: you know we shattery thing away, but I don't. I

1203
01:02:58,080 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: don't want to be you know, I don't be praying

1204
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: nothing like some people need.

1205
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 2: They Christian cake. Smash sphither rings, Karen, Okay, smash the

1206
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: spiritual smither rings at that. Get your Christian cake. Smash

1207
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: the spiritual smither rings out here. They trying to help you, Okay. Yeah,

1208
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: everybody can't be out here. I mean, word on you.

1209
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: I feel bad. I mean, what Christians people going to

1210
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: have sex to the uh someone that asked the question? No,

1211
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: right right? They can't have sex to their other music?

1212
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 2: This is I mean, this ain't bad, man, y'all. Some

1213
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 2: haters out there in the world. Man, I'll tell you

1214
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 2: I'm the one that's not Christian, and y'all y'all there

1215
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 2: damn haters. I seen it on Twitter today, y'all was

1216
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: hate ooh, y'all was hating on No. I don't want this, no,

1217
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 2: thank you, like y'all. Y'all think I'm going to hell

1218
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 2: for being an atheist? Y'all laughing at God's people trying

1219
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: to have a little sex to be fruitful and multiply.

1220
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: Ain't that what y'all believe? You can't be fruitful and multiplied?

1221
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 2: I smile. You've got to ask something? Oh man, No,

1222
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: you know they ain't heart of Joe's face. They was

1223
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: just mad. It's America. Click on a click on an article. Wow,

1224
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm definitely not Spotify before making an opinion on this.

1225
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: Why what I Why are you gonna soap me and

1226
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: ask me to read? Are you serious?

1227
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 7: Uh?

1228
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: In other news? Reread Rihanna. I don't know how many

1229
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 2: times I've had to say this on this show, but

1230
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 2: I'll say it another time. Hopefully it since in so

1231
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 2: when we eventually get accused of not calling black women genius,

1232
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: they can remember that. It's a goddamn line. Rihanna is

1233
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: a marketing genius, ain't she?

1234
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 3: Though she can sell me any motherfucking.

1235
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 2: Thing like she? I don't think it is said. Think

1236
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 2: about this. There are social media platforms with billionaire owners

1237
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: with entire departments dedicated to only marketing that fuck up

1238
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 2: daily every day, We're like another p R crisis. Papa

1239
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: John's another p R crisis every day, lift Uber, whatever

1240
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 2: the fuck always is something. We're like this mom, Facebook

1241
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: fucking up again. And meanwhile, Rihanna comes down out of

1242
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 2: the mountains where I assume her and Beyonce stay and

1243
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: just comes down out of the heavens and blesses us

1244
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 2: with a great idea and gives us a website to

1245
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 2: give her our money. And it works every time. Tiffany

1246
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 2: new York Pollard, you remember New York from Flavor of Love. Yes,

1247
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 2: she becomes she became the face of the new face

1248
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 2: of fenty Beauty. Yes.

1249
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you right now that is some

1250
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: good ass makeup. When I tell you that, because I'm

1251
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: not a makeup person, y'all. Lets y'all know, I don't

1252
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: even know.

1253
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 3: The name of the stores. And when I tell you

1254
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 3: it didn't. I didn't feel caked up.

1255
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: I didn't sorry trying to pause it all right there

1256
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: you God, No.

1257
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 3: I didn't feel caked up. I didn't feel my face.

1258
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: And Field waited because I know for me a lot

1259
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: of times, the biggest one I don't well make up

1260
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: because I just feel I personally just feel like a clown.

1261
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 3: I feel like somebody just came and just poof sh

1262
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 3: it on my face.

1263
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: But with the fifty it was more over, like a

1264
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: brushy type of a feel, and I looked natural, and

1265
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: I that is some good ass makeup.

1266
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: Right, So this is her now, it's ten minutes long.

1267
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 2: I won't play the all things, but clearly done up

1268
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 2: to the to the heavens right right, looking better than

1269
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 2: we've seen her in years. No offense in New York,

1270
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: no offense, but I mean that's why you got the

1271
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: product looking better than we have seen New York in

1272
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 2: years to whatever. I saw this coming up with my

1273
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: timeline and was like, who is that?

1274
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 3: All right?

1275
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 2: I need to get the note. I was New York.

1276
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 7: This is math since I'm the original HB I S

1277
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 7: And this is the holiday gift.

1278
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 3: God you guys, fenty beauty. I'm so excited for it, Fellas.

1279
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 7: I'm gonna hook y'all up, tell y'all what to get

1280
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 7: y'all women, women, I'm.

1281
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 3: Gonna tell y'all what to get.

1282
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 2: Your talk about somebody that's only been in taxic relationships

1283
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: but also was made to be on TV, kind of

1284
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 2: like Cardi like she was made to be like Reality

1285
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 2: TV was like cool, and then she showed up and

1286
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 2: we're like, oh, so that's what a human beings put

1287
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: on this earth to be on reality TV. That's what

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Speaker 2: they look like.

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01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 3: Oh it's holiday time, y'all.

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Speaker 7: Listen, we're about to bring in the new year, and

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01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 7: we are not accepting no greasy, no ashy, nor no

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01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 7: ugly bitches. Okay, is if you pick up this pro

1293
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 7: filter Foundation, you're gonna look flawless. You're going to be

1294
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 7: killing the gram, Facebook, Twitter. I don't care where you

1295
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 7: live at how you make your money.

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01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: Listen, even if.

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01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 3: You take one of the business from the block, you're

1298
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 3: gonna be doing a coin. If you pick up this

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01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 3: pro filter Foundation. I love it.

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01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 7: I look flawless. I ain't I feel yard and Dinner.

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01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 7: I didn't know it can do all that, but it's

1302
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 7: doing it.

1303
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 2: The season follow Ala la la. Pick this shit up.

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01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 7: My palette is everything and this this will take y'all

1305
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 7: into the afterlife, Like this is how we gotta I

1306
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 7: love you.

1307
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 3: This cooky Beauty palette is cuffing season proof, you guys.

1308
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 7: So when I register those words in my head and

1309
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 7: how I apply that to myself.

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01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 3: You already know I'm waiting for my eggs to get cracked.

1311
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 3: This is gonna help me get my prince charming. Let

1312
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 3: me tell y'all what y'all gonna get when you open

1313
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 3: up this palate.

1314
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: Look at this fleak. Like I said, it's fucking genius.

1315
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1316
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 3: It's not like perfect for and I guarantee you they're

1317
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 3: just like, go.

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01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 2: I bet you she ain't read for no script. I

1319
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: bet money one of these some of these other brands

1320
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: will copy this because she's done this before. When she

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01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 2: does something and then people are like, uh, we got

1322
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 2: we got black nail polish, you know, like she like

1323
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 2: she does something like we got some darker tones in

1324
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 2: our palates.

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01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: And people can say what they want to about Rihanna,

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01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: But one thing I love about Rihanna is that whenever

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01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 1: she does something, she does it right. Because with the

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01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: makeup ship, all these other motherfucking brands out here, all

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01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 1: of them, it's like, we do.

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01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 3: Make up for brown people too. Well, bitch, I got

1331
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 3: to buy all of them to mix together to match

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01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 3: my skin. Do you really have something for me? And

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01:09:58,280 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 3: Rihanna was like, I'm serving everybody.

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01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: If you're white and pale, I'll buy no if you

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01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: as black as Roger's shirt. I got make up for

1336
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: your ass, and people's like yeah, Arihanna and everybody began

1337
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: to mimic her, and then she was like, you know what,

1338
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: everybody want to feel sexy, big women, small women, everybody want.

1339
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 3: To feel sexy. I got lingerie.

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01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: People buy that too, and her the lipstick is is

1341
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: magnificent that shit, but like this, you about have to

1342
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 1: scrub your lips and depth to put it off.

1343
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 3: When it was like the long lasting, it stays on

1344
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 3: your lips.

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01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: And so it's one of those things where she put

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01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 1: out good product and she tested the products like for

1347
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: years before she actually came out with it, so that

1348
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: she knew that it worked. And like I said, whatever

1349
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: arena she steps into, it's gonna be done right. So

1350
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: whoever she has a round her working with her magnificent

1351
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: job because these videos are gonna go viral and people are.

1352
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 3: Gonna be like, you know what, I'm gonna go buy

1353
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 3: it too.

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01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like I said, she's a marketing genius,

1355
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: ain't she don't? Like, I don't think it's said enough

1356
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 2: because when is she don't flop Like it's just like

1357
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 2: she comes out like whether it's how her fashion, whether

1358
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 2: it's the makeup, whether it's our music, she just come

1359
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: out and be like bamn, here you go.

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01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 7: You know.

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01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 1: And also and also a thing that I love about

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01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: Rihanna is that I had to be like this. When

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01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: black women do shit, black women do it right. And

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01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 1: I know that she sees that black women, a large

1365
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: part of her fan base is a highly underserved market, right,

1366
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: And I know that she's seen that, and I know

1367
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: that she was like, hey, I she probably had problems

1368
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: finding makeup on her own, and she was like, you

1369
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna create my own shit.

1370
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 3: And she was like, hey, all you people that have struggled,

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 3: here you go.

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01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: And so it's one of those things where that shit

1373
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: has always sold out.

1374
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 3: You can't never find it.

1375
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: You go go to the mall, it's always packed and popping.

1376
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: And so it's one of my things. But I just

1377
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: give her kudos. And like you say, anything she touches

1378
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: turns to gold and makes her a lot. She probably

1379
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 1: makes more money doing this right now and selling her

1380
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: other products that she does off for music wouldn't surprise me.

1381
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: You know.

1382
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 2: It's also interested. Is I bet somebody's offered to buy

1383
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: this already, Like they've already about tried to buy fenty

1384
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 2: the same way that they tried to buy they have

1385
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 2: brought now practicing gamble is by Bevil. Like, I guarantee

1386
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: you somebody has tried to buy fenty because it's a

1387
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 2: gold mine and she built that.

1388
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: You know.

1389
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 3: Yes, she may decide to sell, and she may not

1390
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 3: because it might be one of those things.

1391
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 1: Where she was like, oh oh even if I quote

1392
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: unquote do this quote unquote loss.

1393
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 3: You know, it's something about ownership. Yeah, people, you know,

1394
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 3: it's nothing like.

1395
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: That stole lated because you're still building up your brand.

1396
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that you will never sell, correct, But

1397
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 2: I guarantee you somebody's offered somebody that offer because it's

1398
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 2: like a gold mine, you know. And it's not just

1399
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: about it being a black thing. It's just the fact

1400
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 2: that she's a marketing genius. Like I said, between her

1401
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 2: and Beyonce, we're watching people like change revolutionize the game

1402
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: in a way that nobody else has really done before

1403
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 2: and actively not get that much credit. But we're all

1404
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: sitting there like, Okay, well, how do I buy the thing?

1405
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: You're selling right, and like, I didn't know I missed

1406
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 2: New York right until.

1407
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 9: We see her I was, and then all the memories

1408
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 9: started comment like the like the beginning of reality TV's

1409
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 9: like she Goes way back, and also speaking about Beyonce,

1410
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 9: I've seen a video about Beyonce when she was talking

1411
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 9: about doing her visual album and she was talking about,

1412
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 9: you know, how she didn't do any marketing and how

1413
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 9: you know, she would be out there doing the videos

1414
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 9: and people be screaming at her and they didn't realize

1415
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 9: that she was actually felming the video and things like that.

1416
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: And it's funny though, because you it's like, I'm pretty

1417
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: sure today she wouldn't even give an interview like this,

1418
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: but she was just on stage. She was just talking

1419
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: about how nervous she was and how scared she was,

1420
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking you but you know, she was like,

1421
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: but it's just human nature, because you just don't know

1422
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 1: how people are gonna receive you with the thing that

1423
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 1: you produced.

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01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: Well because unlike So that's one of the big differences

1425
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 2: between like, I think Cardi and them is that they

1426
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: just seem so much bigger than life because how little

1427
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 2: they share with us, right, you know, like I remember,

1428
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 2: remember when Rihanna there was pictures of Rihanna with that

1429
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 2: rich dude in this pool. It seemed like a million

1430
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 2: years ago now, and everybody starts speculating, oh, this is

1431
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 2: her new man, the old she date. Don't tell me

1432
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 2: my girl dating the fucking Saday Prince or some shit,

1433
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 2: and then we have not seen that nigga since, you

1434
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 2: know what.

1435
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: And the thing about Rihanna that I love, she is

1436
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: literally living her best life, right.

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01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 3: She was like, I could be with anybody. I'm not

1438
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 3: tied down on nobody, you know.

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01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: And it's one thing where she does. I'm not gonna

1440
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: say the similar things that men do, but she, you know, she's.

1441
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 3: Like, hey, I go out here do my thing. Who cares?

1442
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: There are ultimate examples too. It people gonna talk about

1443
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: you no matter what you do anyway.

1444
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 3: Colorause.

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01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 2: I remember when people said Beyonce faked her pregnancy, like

1446
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 2: look at the way her dress bolted when she sat

1447
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 2: down in his chair, and then she put out fucking

1448
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 2: twins looking, you know, stomach looking just gigantic with two

1449
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 2: babies inside of it, you know, And I'm like, yeah,

1450
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 2: people are just some weird ass haters anyway, you know, so, uh,

1451
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 2: but yeah, I stand for both. Soon I fuck with them,

1452
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: I fuck with them, but also I fuck with the

1453
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 2: fact that I don't know them and don't know anything

1454
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 2: about them, and they're okay with that. They're not always

1455
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: trying to give me a glimpse behind the scenes, and

1456
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: they like they really do just show up, like all right,

1457
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 2: so this is uh, this is my new album, dropping

1458
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 2: it at three in the morning, all asking time by

1459
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 2: and then everybody just loses their minds.

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01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: Right and they just run off because you know, and

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01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: and I'm actually really thinking about being one of those

1462
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: people that get me a Beyonce fun. Well, I put

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01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: some money to the side because I know in about

1464
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: another two years she gonna be going on tour again.

1465
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, let me save up some

1466
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: money so I can spend the good money and get

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01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 1: a good seat.

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01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into some other stuff, guys. Let's

1469
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 2: do some fuck with black people. M hm, you're just

1470
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,759
Speaker 2: talking with those black people with just fucking with those blacks.

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01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 2: We're just fucking with fucking with black people. That's right.

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01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 2: It's time to play the game we all hate to play.

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01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 2: It's fucking with black people. The game. We go all

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01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 2: around the globe trying different articles four and we all

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01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 2: sign different points courses zero tour hundred animals of twenty five.

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01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: Today's the Testants. Everybody is all right, let's see fucking

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01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 2: with us today. Product faces backlash after selling black face

1478
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 2: like monkey charms. How do we not know? Black face

1479
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 2: is not shines for your bracelet? I will show you

1480
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 2: the pictures. Yeah, the popular fashion rand Prada is facing

1481
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 2: uh a lot of heat after New York store has

1482
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 2: been selling monkey like fingerines with large red lips that

1483
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 2: appear to be mirroring blackface. Oh no, no, no, third

1484
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 2: dim look.

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01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 3: Like what we've seen at the at the African American Museum.

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01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 2: No, thank you in the coon section right yeah, my

1487
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 2: right over there about being Carson for some reason. I

1488
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 2: don't know why they had them in that anyway. It's

1489
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: funny though that they went monkey and black face like

1490
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: not to just do, not to confuse anyone, not to do.

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01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 3: You could have just did monkey.

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01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 2: We want a black face, big lip, red lip monkey. Okay,

1493
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 2: just in case you might think, well maybe it's just

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01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 2: a monkey. Calm down. We need you to know. I mean,

1495
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: if people got mad at coolest monkey in the jungle. Ah,

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01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: this ship is beyond zero t right, A hundred Yeah,

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01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 2: that's one hundred.

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01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 3: Bout that shit.

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01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: Lisa Bonet's daughter explains why she couldn't connect with being black.

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01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 2: Actress Lisa Bonae's daughter and singer Lenny Cravis's twenty nine

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01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 2: year old daughter, Zoe Kravis, recently did an interview with

1502
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 2: Nylon Magazine when she admitted that she did not know

1503
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: what it meant to be black. She was confused as

1504
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: all get out about her heritage, so instead she identified

1505
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 2: with being white. Now, let's keep in mind, to her credit,

1506
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,719
Speaker 2: both her parents are by racial Lisa is white and black,

1507
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 2: and Lenny mother's late African American actress Roxy Roker Helen

1508
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 2: from The Jefferson's TV Show, and his father was white.

1509
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 2: So Zoe is also a mixed heritage. All right, Peep

1510
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 2: what Zoe explained. She says, as one of the few

1511
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 2: black kids in her predominantly white schools, she remembers saying

1512
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 2: things like I'm just as white as y'all to her class,

1513
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 2: ooh ouch to her classmates identified with white culture. I

1514
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 2: wanted to fit in, She says, I didn't identify a

1515
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 2: black coature, like I didn't like Tyler Perry movies. I

1516
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 2: wasn't in the hip hop. I like Neil Young, But

1517
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 2: as time went on, her views shifted black just so

1518
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: much deeper than that. She says, But unfortunately that is

1519
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 2: what was fed through the media. That's what people see,

1520
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 2: That's what I saw. But when I got then I

1521
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 2: got older and listened to a trycoll Quest and watch

1522
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 2: films by with Sidney Portier and her Billie Holliday and

1523
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 2: Nina Samone. I had to unbrainwash myself. It's my mission,

1524
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: especially as an actress.

1525
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 3: And the thing is, she's not the only one that

1526
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 3: goes through this.

1527
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 2: It's a lot of people.

1528
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 3: And I think that a lot of times people have

1529
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 3: a tendency to shame people that go through this process.

1530
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: But it boils down to white supremacy, and it boils

1531
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 1: down to your lack of knowledge and you're just not knowing.

1532
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: And I've had to lighten up, you know, the older

1533
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: I get, the I don't have as much of a

1534
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 1: harsh stance on certain things that have more compassion.

1535
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 3: But that Nigga didn't Nobody to tell you.

1536
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't tell them, and why they don't like

1537
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: they have to learn on their own.

1538
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 2: And the thing is there's a lot of people like this, yes,

1539
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: even some grown as adults like this, right, And I

1540
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 2: think it is our duty to unproprogram ourselves because there's

1541
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with being black. And I guess a little

1542
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 2: bit was weirded out by the fact that she said

1543
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 2: she identified as white and they were like, well, her

1544
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:22,560
Speaker 2: parents are biracial, but those are black people, you know,

1545
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 2: Like I get that people want to be kind of

1546
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 2: like noncommittal to that on some like, we can't be

1547
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: they're biracial, they're this. I don't want to I'm not

1548
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: trying to erase anybody's identity, but the way that America

1549
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 2: identifies people, we identify Lisa Bonet and Lenny Kravitz as black,

1550
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that that's genetically whatever the fuck.

1551
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 2: I just know when people look at them, if the

1552
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 2: police pulled them over, if they showed up at Joe cookout,

1553
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,679
Speaker 2: you was like, oh, those are just two light skinned

1554
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 2: black people. And so it's kind of interesting that you

1555
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 2: can grow up with two parents that most people would

1556
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 2: identify as black and go I'm white, true, And like

1557
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: when they meet your parents, what do people say, right,

1558
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 2: and I.

1559
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: Think for me sometimes as parents you do tell children,

1560
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: but children look at the world around them and go

1561
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: and not ly funny.

1562
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 3: Young people just blow off adults even though adults know what.

1563
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: They're talking about sometimes, so it could have been one

1564
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: of the things that they, you know, was like hey,

1565
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 1: she was like, I'm looking around me.

1566
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 3: I don't identify, I don't relate.

1567
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean when you look at the pictures of

1568
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 2: them together as a family, it's like it's it's it's wild, like,

1569
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 2: y'all those are black people to me. I guess, uh,

1570
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 2: you know, at least for a time in her life.

1571
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 2: She was like, I'm white, you know.

1572
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 4: So.

1573
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: But but anyway, I think, like she said, you have

1574
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 2: to unprogram yourself with that stuff and you have to

1575
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 2: like you have to grow into it because I mean, one,

1576
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 2: you're not really gonna have much choice in America unfortunately,

1577
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 2: But then too, because a lot of times it's anti

1578
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 2: blackness that's actually shaping your opinion, that's making you go

1579
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 2: something about just being black is bad, you know, it's

1580
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 2: you know, it's why so many people are like I'm

1581
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 2: not black, I'm Dominican or some shit, and like, what's

1582
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 2: so bad about being black.

1583
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 3: You know what's going wrong about being a Dominican black

1584
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 3: or black Dominican? However you want to play right?

1585
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: Like, what's so bad about being that? I don't want

1586
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 2: to play everyone's best friend, she explains, I don't want

1587
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 2: to play the role of a girl struggling in the ghetto.

1588
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 2: It's not that that story isn't important, but I saw

1589
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 2: patterns and was like, I don't relate to these people.

1590
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 2: Cravis's agent knows not the past of the scripts where

1591
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 2: the race is a key factor, but there's been one exception,

1592
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 2: the Sundance Darling Dope. It hit all the points that

1593
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 2: I believe in, she says, in the Hilary's film about

1594
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: a crew of geee punk and nineties hip hop loving

1595
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 2: teams growing up in Englewood, California. I know those people.

1596
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: I got the sense of humor. I love that movie.

1597
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 2: That is interesting that she doesn't want to play in

1598
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 2: race films, but also that's that's an option that you

1599
01:22:55,400 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: should have. I hope, you know, I hope that it's

1600
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 2: not one of those things where she doesn't I don't know.

1601
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 2: I hope it's one of those things. But she doesn't

1602
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: like avoid black shit because of some type of shame

1603
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 2: or like limitations attached to black shit. But you just

1604
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 2: never know what people. You know, Even that whole Tyler

1605
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 2: Perry thing was kind of like what's so bad about

1606
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry? You know, as far as like black people,

1607
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: some black people love Tyler Perry. Do we really need

1608
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,879
Speaker 2: to like make him an example of what's wrong with blackness?

1609
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 7: Come on?

1610
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 2: In the last Batman movie, The Dark Knight Rogers, they

1611
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 2: told me I couldn't get an audition for a small

1612
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 2: role they were casting because they weren't going urban. It

1613
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 2: was like, what does it have to do with anything?

1614
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 2: I have to play the role? Like, Yo, what's up, Batman?

1615
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 2: What's going on with you? She was making a joke

1616
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: like I got to talk like that, So yeah, good

1617
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 2: luck man. I appreciate her being honest about the shit too,

1618
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 2: because a lot of motherfuckers feel this way, but they're

1619
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 2: scared to talk about this kind of stuff because they

1620
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 2: know that they'll get judged by a lot of black

1621
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 2: people who are kind of we have our own anti

1622
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 2: black biases about this type of black person, the special

1623
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 2: snowflake black person. You found your blackness later in life.

1624
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 2: I've seen what people say about folks like this and

1625
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: it's not nice.

1626
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: You know, it is not. And it's a colorism thing,

1627
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 1: and it's a struggle because at the end of the day,

1628
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: we're all black, but each side looks at the other

1629
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 1: person like you're gonna reject me, so I'm gonna reject

1630
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: you reject me.

1631
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 3: And it just comes a big rejection game, a a

1632
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 3: bunch of harsh and mean and cruel words.

1633
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 1: When I don't care when you come to your black

1634
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: into your blackness. It's your blackness once you claim it.

1635
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 2: Right, let me see what the time look like we

1636
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: do one more For Saint Louis police officers were charged

1637
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: with beating an undercover colleague. Oh yeah, what you I'm sorry?

1638
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 2: What would you write the Zoe story?

1639
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 7: Zero?

1640
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? I give it a zero too, man, No, I

1641
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 2: give it twenty five. I'm always fucked with by the

1642
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 2: idea that that that there's this hang up with race

1643
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 2: that makes us have to do these adjustments in our

1644
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,719
Speaker 2: life of like I'm not I'm gonna deny my blackness,

1645
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 2: or I have to fight to get to lean into

1646
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 2: this black thing. Now, I have to understand it better.

1647
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 2: And it's not it's not towards her, but just the

1648
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 2: whole state of the world in general, that you know,

1649
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 2: we can't just like exist, right, And I know that

1650
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 2: deep down that's what she's fighting for, is to just exist.

1651
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 2: But the world ain't fair like that. You don't really

1652
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 2: get to be black and neutral because the world won't

1653
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: let you be. And I'm I don't want to pass

1654
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 2: too much judgment, but I also feel like black people

1655
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 2: shouldn't be neutral when it comes to race, and shit,

1656
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 2: we we're it's not just that we that we can't be,

1657
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 2: but we also really shouldn't be. And I know we

1658
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 2: all want to break and we don't want to be

1659
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 2: woke on everything, but you know, I feel like low

1660
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 2: key we we really shouldn't be striving to not have race,

1661
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 2: to run away from it anyway, anyway, good luck to her.

1662
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 2: A federal grand jury in Saint Louis indicted Ford City

1663
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 2: police officer Thursday and charged three on the charges that

1664
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 2: three of them beat an undercover officer last year, and

1665
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 2: all four of them covered it up, so even the

1666
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 2: fourth officer helped cover it up. Officers Dustin Boone thirty five,

1667
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 2: Randy Hayes thirty one, and Christopher Myers slammed undercover officer,

1668
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 2: twenty two year old police veteran to the ground, kicked

1669
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 2: him and beat him with a police baton. A fourth officer,

1670
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 2: Bailey Coletter twenty five, is accused a line to a

1671
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 2: federal jury investigating the incident. The alleged attack habit September seventeen,

1672
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, amid the chaos in downtown Saint Louis following

1673
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 2: the acquittal of former police officer Jason Stockley, who was

1674
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 2: accused of first degree murder related to the shooting death

1675
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 2: of a civilian. Damn, this shit sounds like the end

1676
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 2: of Black Plansman. The victim, identified only by the initials LH,

1677
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 2: was working undercover to record and document criminal activity so

1678
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: that the Saint Louis Police could arrest individuals who were

1679
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 2: committing crimes. So they do send undercovered black people down

1680
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 2: there at those riots. He was complaint compliant and not

1681
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 2: posing a physical threat to anyone. According to court papers.

1682
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 2: The three officers accused of beating the officer's face face

1683
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 2: beating the officer face charges of willing willfully violating Lh's

1684
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 2: constitutional rights. Mister Myers faces a destruction of evidence charge

1685
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,919
Speaker 2: for destroying Lh's cell phone and an effort to frustrate

1686
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 2: the investigation. An officer Coletter twenty five faces charges of

1687
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 2: attempting to obstruct grand jury proceedings. Huh. These cous violated

1688
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 2: a lot of laws for keepers of the peace, for

1689
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 2: some officers of the law. They should did run afoul

1690
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 2: of it. Quite bad there interesting.

1691
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

1692
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 2: If convicted, all four faced up to twenty years in prison.

1693
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 2: There are serious charges of vigorous enforcement civil rights is

1694
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 2: essential to maintain the public trust and law enforcement, said

1695
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 2: yours attorney, Jeff Jensen. The Saint Louis Metropolitan Police Force,

1696
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 2: recognizing points of this investigation as leadership has cooperated every turn.

1697
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm. Ain't that some ship?

1698
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 8: Uh?

1699
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 2: And of course the dude they beat up what was black?

1700
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 3: So you know, we'll see how that blue line then

1701
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 3: blue line is crossed.

1702
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 2: Ain't it funny how blue lives matter until he's beating

1703
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 2: a fellow officer that happened to be black. Then it

1704
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 2: just changed. They covered up the crime and everything to

1705
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 2: their own fellow officer. I mean they was walking around

1706
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 2: after they beat this dude, like, hey, how you doing. Man?

1707
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 2: I guarantee people up to Karen zero the hundred I

1708
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 2: will give it a hundred as well. Let's go to

1709
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 2: some guess the race now that it's time for some guests.

1710
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 2: The race. That's right, his guest, the race time. Now,

1711
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 2: that is time for some guests. The race. That's right,

1712
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 2: this guest the race time. That's right. It's time for

1713
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 2: gust the race. The number one game show going across

1714
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 2: all the podcasts.

1715
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: Man.

1716
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 2: We read the play news artist from all over the globe,

1717
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 2: and we asked our contentions today Karen and the chat room,

1718
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 2: two guests, the race, and everybody playing races. All right,

1719
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I had a sound effect go off in

1720
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 2: the middle of down. Cops pursue charges against an engineer

1721
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 2: at the California Wildfire post Police say they will pursue

1722
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 2: criminal charges against a man who posted pictures of himself

1723
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 2: on Facebook, posting in the wreckage of the California wildfires

1724
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 2: what he had some jokes to get off Karen and well,

1725
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 2: they just couldn't wait. Rob Freestone and two other men

1726
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 2: were picture making jokes and posing and burned out vehicles

1727
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 2: and trampolines after the deadly blade that killed eighty six people,

1728
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 2: oh officials in devastated town of Paradise said Saturday that

1729
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 2: the photos accompanied by the captions by Rob Freestone are

1730
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 2: unacceptable and reprehensies. It reprehensive that the images Freestone posted

1731
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,560
Speaker 2: show an insensitive and disturbing behavior in the town of

1732
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,839
Speaker 2: Paradise where almost every citizen lost their home. The devastating

1733
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: fire shit he took. He posed with one with a

1734
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 2: firetruck of a little small fire engine between his legs

1735
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 2: like a toy one and said, got the out of

1736
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 2: fire truck today. Okay, the three men were fired by

1737
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 2: that crane company, Big crane and rigging for the photos

1738
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 2: at The Freestone post went viral on Facebook. Mister Freestone

1739
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 2: has been removed from the campfire recovery effort and we

1740
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 2: are working with the International Union of Operating Engineers regarding

1741
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 2: his actions. The Facebook page where the Town of Paradise

1742
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 2: shared another user's post of freestones pictures, explaining that the

1743
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 2: town leadership contacted his employers and stating at the police

1744
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 2: will look at the criminal charges. According to two KRCR News,

1745
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 2: the Paradise Police Department Great Show on Netflix confirmed that

1746
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 2: they will be consulting with the District Attorney's office before

1747
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 2: opening investigation. One of Freestone's post shows two workers in

1748
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,759
Speaker 2: safety vests, smiling and the skeleton remains of a motor

1749
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 2: home with freestons, cash and reading. They're off on a

1750
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:24,639
Speaker 2: fun field vacation to unknown destinations in a new RV.

1751
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 2: What why did you just not like having a job?

1752
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 2: Was that the thing you just woke up and was like, man,

1753
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 2: fuck fuck having a job, Fuck my income. Trampolines are

1754
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,560
Speaker 2: Trampolines are stupid. By the way, it used to be

1755
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,560
Speaker 2: called a jumpoline until your mom got on it. He

1756
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 2: put in one where burnt out trampoline.

1757
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, people ain't gonna be TOOKLM with the whole fucking

1758
01:31:57,960 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: town burned down.

1759
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 2: Right, So then I was After that they said that

1760
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 2: they were firing him. So guess the race of Rob

1761
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 2: Freestone and his partner's Karen. Karen's going white. Let's take

1762
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 2: the chat room. White people challenge white white What is

1763
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 2: this trauma you speak of? White? This sounds like a

1764
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 2: weird white people flex kicked out of the boy Scouts. White.

1765
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 2: They're just making They're just jokes man white white fire Marshall,

1766
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 2: Bill fucked up cousins, white, white, white, Flora Obama Flora

1767
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 2: Bama white. What else white? The correct answer is and

1768
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 2: all of you guess the white. You gotta correct the white.

1769
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 2: And I put him on screen. Give me one close

1770
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 2: this video. I started playing. Uh, but that's that's him.

1771
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 2: There is it showing up yet? Mm hmmm, Sorry, moving

1772
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 2: a little slower so it might be a little delay.

1773
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 1: What.

1774
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's him on the fire truck. Got to ride

1775
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 2: a fire truck today.

1776
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:18,519
Speaker 3: About this was smart.

1777
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 2: That's the mobile home. Oh, they're completely burned down and

1778
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 2: they're in there smiling. This is a trampoline one, which

1779
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 2: is a great joke. The mom joke about it was

1780
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 2: called a jumpoline till your mom got on it. Great joke.

1781
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 2: Uh so yeah, they got fired. Yeah, they put Oh wow,

1782
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 2: they put a bottle of beer in a dead animal

1783
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 2: that burned the death's mouth. What's wrong with these people? Good? Free?

1784
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm. These motherfuckers out there having fun?

1785
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 4: Right?

1786
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 2: I guess may make you work fun if you can,

1787
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 2: but I mean you might not want to do it

1788
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 2: if you're a fucking disaster relief person. All right, let's

1789
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 2: go to the next one. Florida man tried to pay

1790
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 2: McDonald's with a bag of weed. Police said, I don't

1791
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 2: know why that's not illegal. It's Florida's. Is we not

1792
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:19,839
Speaker 2: illegal in Florida?

1793
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: I think it is.

1794
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 2: Uh, Police in Florida said, twenty three old man went

1795
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 2: through a McDonald's drive through and tried to paper his

1796
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,679
Speaker 2: order with a bag of marijuana. News outlets report Port

1797
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 2: Saint Lucy. I know they were going they were narc Donald's.

1798
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 2: What the fuck are y'all telling?

1799
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 3: I know, sir, we can't accept that unless you give

1800
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 3: me some cash. You get the hell out my drive

1801
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 3: through line.

1802
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 2: You holding it up, I'll be like meet me around back,

1803
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 2: uh for st let's say, Lucy. Police say the fast

1804
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 2: food worker denied the trade and Anthony Andrew Gallagher drove off,

1805
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,719
Speaker 2: only a return again. A short time later. Police arrested

1806
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 2: them Sunday charges of marijuana possession. Now see that was

1807
01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 2: the part that I would have. Okay, I get why

1808
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 2: you called the police because then at the returns, it's

1809
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 2: like how many times are gonna do this? Police were

1810
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 2: alerted to us offer early Sunday morning, got a description

1811
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 2: of him from the worker. They say a suspect matching

1812
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 2: the description went through the drive through a little while

1813
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 2: later and police approached him. Sun Cliff gollaher attempt to

1814
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 2: pay for his order with Druggs the second time. So

1815
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 2: also on Cliff, he has a lawyer, guess the race white.

1816
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 2: Karen's going white. Let's see what you guys believe white, white, white.

1817
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 2: But the weed man, dude, where's my car? I didn't

1818
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 2: know I could do that. White, dumbass, white alligator man

1819
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 2: black black, green leaves over a green faces white black.

1820
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 2: I'm feeling pooky, dumb. I guess it's black. Get let

1821
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 2: me get that hook up black. So most of you

1822
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 2: guys went with white, but there was a lot of

1823
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 2: blacks in there, and in the end it got progressively

1824
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 2: blacker by the end. Well, the correct answer is, Karen,

1825
01:35:56,360 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 2: you got it right white. Many of you missed it though.

1826
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: Oh no, wonder why they cut me. Had his window

1827
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,839
Speaker 1: down because his hair showlder like it's swooped.

1828
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. You're trying to uh he was trying to

1829
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 2: order off the dim bag. Mean you come on, all right,

1830
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 2: let's go to the bonus round.

1831
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 8: Uh.

1832
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 2: There we go, double the saying the race, double the poll,

1833
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 2: say the race. That's right, double the points, double the race,

1834
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 2: and the bonus round. I guess the right so far

1835
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 2: caring it is two for two, let's see if she

1836
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 2: can finish three for three. Getting nervous? All right, I'll

1837
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 2: tell you who's nervous. A woman who was stalked by

1838
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 2: a man for twelve years after asking him to cover

1839
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 2: his mouth after coffin what that's all it took? A

1840
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 2: California man was arrested Monday after police say he stalked

1841
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 2: a woman online for twelve years after she asked him

1842
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 2: to cover his mouth while coughing during a high school class.

1843
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:18,719
Speaker 7: Wow.

1844
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 2: Matthew Kringle, a twenty nine year old from Los Altos,

1845
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 2: is alleged to have created a number of fake Facebook

1846
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,639
Speaker 2: accounts over the years, which he then used to send

1847
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 2: sexually explicit and threatening messages to the woman. Kringo, who

1848
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 2: had already once been convicted of stalking the same woman

1849
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 2: years ago, was arrested without incident on Monday. He's being

1850
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 2: held without bell in Santa Clair County Jail. This is

1851
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 2: the first holiday season in over a decade where the

1852
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 2: victim can relax and not worry about looking over her shoulder. Shit,

1853
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 2: she shouldn't have to live in fear. Twelve years twelve,

1854
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 2: he had nothing else to do. Serki, you cover your mouth?

1855
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 2: I mean we've all had moments of interactions in public

1856
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 2: where I'm sure we felt a motherfucker said something the

1857
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 2: wrong way or were you know, like sir s covery

1858
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,679
Speaker 2: goddamn mouth and we all were like, man, that person

1859
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 2: was really fucking rude about that night. But what we

1860
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 2: don't do is then on one him stalked them for

1861
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 2: twelve years.

1862
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 3: Ain't that important?

1863
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 2: It's okay, It's gonna be all right, police said. Kringle

1864
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 2: took advantage of Facebook, which in years past allowed users

1865
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 2: greater anonymity and made it harder for police to track

1866
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 2: down fake accounts. There was a lot of messages that

1867
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 2: were coming from many different people, but they were all

1868
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 2: very similar, said the police. The poor woman was receiving

1869
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 2: it repeatedly over the course of about twelve years. The

1870
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:42,640
Speaker 2: victim Toe believes she believed Kringo began to nurse a

1871
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 2: grudge against her. She asked him to cover his mouth

1872
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:47,799
Speaker 2: while coughing during the high school class they took together.

1873
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 3: Want to get sick.

1874
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 2: This is some offset level abuse right here. Okay, Actually,

1875
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:57,839
Speaker 2: I'd say further, for real, it's even worse to offset cringe.

1876
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you mean twelve years old, sir, you're coughing

1877
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 2: all over me. Oh bitch, it's home. I know you

1878
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 2: ain't just say God bless you.

1879
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 5: I know you did not.

1880
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 3: Just okay, I know he looked at He looked at her,

1881
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 3: said I'll stalk.

1882
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:17,640
Speaker 2: You, right, that is true. I forgot Cardy said that

1883
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 2: shit about cheating on that woman's man. Man, Oh, Cardy,

1884
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 2: please baby grow up. I hope everything gonna be all right.

1885
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 3: I'm rooting for you.

1886
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 2: We're all rooting for you, Cardy. I know you don't

1887
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 2: listen to podcasts, but were rooting for you.

1888
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 3: Bob come out with your next stop Bop album and

1889
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 3: I'm here.

1890
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 2: Whole things work out, so uh yeah. Now, authorities are

1891
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,600
Speaker 2: trying to understand why he was able to continue his

1892
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 2: alleged behavior after his conviction, because he got convicted of

1893
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 2: stalking a woman years ago. Uh Kringle face the charges

1894
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 2: of felony stalking, stalking of the prohibitive restraining order, stalking

1895
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:54,480
Speaker 2: following the prior felony conviction, and making criminal threats. Imagine

1896
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 2: going to prison for this, Yeah.

1897
01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:57,679
Speaker 3: Just stalking.

1898
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 2: What are you going to prison? Eight else? Yeah, I'm

1899
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 2: just doing seven years for stalking. Police are also investigating

1900
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 2: another other potential stalking victims. Yeah, because I bet it

1901
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 2: wasn't just her, because if he did that to her

1902
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 2: off a cough, you know he don't have somebody else,

1903
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 2: doesnet been like, excuse me, sir, is this the line

1904
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 2: for the movie? Oh? What is your name?

1905
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 4: Mail?

1906
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 2: What is your name? Okay? Yeah, well you will be

1907
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 2: getting several threatening emails tonight.

1908
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 8: Yes you will.

1909
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 2: I can't believe you will actually ask me to use

1910
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 2: the bathroom. Wow. Uh, you worked for a ride sharing

1911
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 2: company which gave him access to people's names and data,

1912
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 2: so you get in this uber. It's a lefty, it's

1913
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 2: over all right. Can guess the race?

1914
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 4: Oh?

1915
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 2: White? All right? You said that with conviction. Hopefully we

1916
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 2: get a conviction when he goes to trial. Let's check

1917
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 2: the chat room. This is a kind of hate. Only

1918
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 2: generational wealth can foster white? Surprised he didn't shoot up

1919
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 2: the school? White, Santa Claus white, This is all white,

1920
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 2: Kringle white. White. The correct answer is and everybody went white.

1921
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 2: The correct answer is white. They were like, I need

1922
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:18,759
Speaker 2: to see why how he was able.

1923
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 4: To do this?

1924
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 3: Why niggas?

1925
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 1: Niggas like I got other more person things than to

1926
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: stalk you for twelve years.

1927
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 2: Right, like, I mean, then again, you know some men,

1928
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 2: there's some black men creepy ship too, just done.

1929
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 3: I guess some people will find the time if they're crazy.

1930
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 2: Enough, because I do believe black men can be dangerous.

1931
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:42,720
Speaker 3: Yes they can.

1932
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 2: Extremely We've talked about We talked about it on this

1933
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 2: show before, so yes they can. Sunglasses I think those

1934
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 2: are his regular glasses, but they got tent. But he

1935
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 2: looked like it looks creepy and look at his face.

1936
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 2: Look mean, yeah, he.

1937
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 3: Got a party on the top. What's happening here?

1938
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 2: Got a little spittle on the left side here.

1939
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 3: He just wake up and it was like, fuck it,

1940
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 3: I'm not coming my head today.

1941
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 2: He's like, y'all interrupted my stocking. God damn it. I

1942
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 2: got a lot back in soon. All right, let's do

1943
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:42,560
Speaker 2: some sword ratchiness and get out of here. A Louisville

1944
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 2: woman strikes a man with a sword after an argument.

1945
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 3: Mm hmmmmmm.

1946
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 2: Well, I guess she's a Louisville slugger now. And in

1947
01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 2: case you're wondering out there, guys, I think this is

1948
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 2: also abusive behavior. Yes, I know, I'm going on a

1949
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 2: limb today. I'm getting spicy, uh, I hope I hope

1950
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:12,720
Speaker 2: they listen to show they they know the jokes, right, right,

1951
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 2: I really do hope you do.

1952
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 3: Baby is anonymous.

1953
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always kind of hesitate to even address that

1954
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 2: kind of stuff on the show because sometimes people get

1955
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 2: so mad us for for feeling, you know, a way

1956
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:28,600
Speaker 2: that we feel so hopeless. They don't they took it

1957
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 2: in the spirit of like us saying like, no, we

1958
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 2: agree with you, and right.

1959
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 3: It wasn't in the spirit of meanness or anything like that.

1960
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 3: And and it's just one of those things where.

1961
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: People have the right to feel the way they do

1962
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 1: and we don't always agree with he write us in

1963
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 1: all time, I don't always agree with you.

1964
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 3: I hope not.

1965
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 2: Baby. Uh So. Angela Hill is her name. Guess the

1966
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 2: race white. She poorly struck a victim with the sort

1967
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 2: out of the argument. She is arrested on second degree

1968
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,719
Speaker 2: assault charges. What then do you take to get first? Agree?

1969
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 2: Finding to a domestic disturbance around seven thirty pm Saturday,

1970
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 2: at the third party called authorities. He'll told police the

1971
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 2: victim had pulled the sword on her during the argument.

1972
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 2: She claimed that she took out took it from the

1973
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 2: victim and stated the sword fell on his legs when

1974
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 2: she let go of it. Whoops, he just fell on

1975
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 2: his legs seventeen times. A witness told police that Hill

1976
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:23,680
Speaker 2: was arguing over money and that the victim had the

1977
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 2: sword in his hands and he was sitting on the couch.

1978
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 2: He'll grab the sword hit the victim twice in the legs,

1979
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 2: according to the witness. He'll also reportedly told the victim

1980
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 2: tell the cops you fell on the sword and get

1981
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 2: a band aid so I don't go to jail. The

1982
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 2: victim refused treatment from the emergency crews. He'll was being

1983
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 2: held on five thousand dollars bond.

1984
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 1: Well, you know when that sounds like that was an

1985
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 1: abusive relationship because he showed didn't get helped, So somebody

1986
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:45,839
Speaker 1: was scared.

1987
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 2: All I know is I hope that I hope it

1988
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 2: wasn't more than five hundred dollars she was arguing over

1989
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 2: because the bomb was five ten percent of that is

1990
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 2: five hundred, So I mean you might be fucked. You

1991
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 2: might have beat your ass, beat somebody ass and lost

1992
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 2: out on the money in the first place.

1993
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 3: Yep, I will project here.

1994
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do feel like you are projecting. We don't

1995
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 2: know them caring, but I'm gonna project all right then,

1996
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 2: all right, well I'm moving on. Somebody should write care

1997
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 2: in the letter, because I didn't say that, but I

1998
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 2: feel like the letter would be addressed to me. All right,

1999
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 2: we'll talk to you all with y'all, talk to y'all

2000
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 2: tomorrow until there. I love you. I love you.