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Speaker 1: What's that ad? It's spooky joky. I'm really sure it's dead.

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Speaker 1: It's coming this way. Wait a minute, help, I'm ghosted.

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Speaker 1: I nandas plle. Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome

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Speaker 1: to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk

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Speaker 1: to people that I like about the paranormal. My friends

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Speaker 1: e J. Marcus and Rue Anderson are on the show,

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Speaker 1: and they are two comedians in a relationship with each other,

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Speaker 1: and they're just so fun to talk to. So we'll

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Speaker 1: get to that in a moment, but before we do,

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Speaker 1: let me read you a ghost story.

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Speaker 2: Worry.

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Speaker 1: This one came from a listener named Morgan, who writes,

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Speaker 1: my grandma died in twenty twenty, but we kept her

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Speaker 1: house in the family as it is sentimental and it

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Speaker 1: is in the woods of West Virginia, so we love

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Speaker 1: to hide out there for holidays. In twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: my twin sister, my mom, and I were driving from

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Speaker 1: Iowa to West Virginia for spring break. We didn't get

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Speaker 1: There's also no cell service because it's in the middle

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Speaker 1: and my sister and I are laying on the two

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Speaker 1: female voices talking upstairs. This is super weird because it

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Speaker 1: was only my mom up there and there was no

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Speaker 1: one else she could have been talking to. So I

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Speaker 1: but I had never heard anything weird before. So the

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Speaker 1: two ladies kept chatting. I'm terrified, and I try to

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Speaker 1: as if there isn't an active haunting occurring, So I'm like, whatever,

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Speaker 1: this is fine. Then I hear my mom walk down

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Speaker 1: the stairs. Each step is so creaky because the house

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Speaker 1: I look over to the bottom of the stairs. Nobody

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Speaker 1: is there. Oh hell no. Throughout the night, I heard

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Speaker 1: someone walk down the stairs like five more times, and

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Speaker 1: each time I looked, there was nobody there. And then

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Speaker 1: in the kitchen, my dead grandma has this thing that

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Speaker 1: announces the temperature. It's supposed to go off at like

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Speaker 1: seven am and seven pm. Well, at this point, It's

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Speaker 1: around three or three thirty am, and it announced the

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Speaker 1: temperature three times in a row. I was so scared

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Speaker 1: and I stayed up until the sun came up. In

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Speaker 1: the morning. My sister and I asked my mom about

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Speaker 1: the voices, and she said she was not talking to

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Speaker 1: I experienced ghostly happenings all night. Eek okay Morgan, yeah

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Speaker 1: that was your dead grandma. Listen. I have experienced with

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Speaker 1: grandma ghosts myself, and you know, even if it's your

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Speaker 1: loving grandma, it could still be creepy if it's three am.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but love my grandma's I've had two grandmas

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Speaker 1: and a step grandma. They're all passed. If they decide

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Speaker 1: to visit me at three am, I'll be lighting a

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Speaker 1: bundle of all kinds of things. I'll be getting the

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Speaker 1: holy water out. I'm sorry. Sorry, ladies, love you to death, literally,

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Speaker 1: however you gotta go. Thanks for sharing that. Hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: speaking of me with ghosts, I do have my YouTube

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Speaker 1: show called Roz Hernandez the Haunted Doll on YouTube. You

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Speaker 1: can go watch that because I have posted multiple episodes

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Speaker 1: of new ghost Hunts of mine, and I'm very proud

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Speaker 1: of them, So go give them a watch, and also

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Speaker 1: watch the interviews of this podcast on exactly Whight's YouTube page.

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Speaker 1: We usually drop them like a week later, so that

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Speaker 1: studio episodes. There's tons of them that are up on

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Speaker 1: YouTube right now, so go watch them. Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: It's my conversation with EJ and Rue and with the show.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, e J and Rue are here?

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Speaker 3: Yay?

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Speaker 1: A real life couple.

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Speaker 4: Yes, all the more ghostly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah for you, my dear.

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Speaker 1: But also you two are younger.

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, Are you sure about that?

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Speaker 5: Your gen Z are actually firmly cussed, your cuss. We're

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Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety six, which makes you cuss.

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Speaker 4: I am technically gen Z.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I will say, not to embarrass your Rue,

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Speaker 1: but Rue came in this room and said, oh my gosh, Dracula,

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Speaker 1: which is to our Liberachi doll.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's an a Dracula costume, but.

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Speaker 1: You know what he is. He is very much in

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Speaker 2: But he's ghostly white, he's pale.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll I completely I love it. Now. That's

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Speaker 1: always going to be Dracula for me. But how is

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Speaker 3: It's amazing weather today.

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Speaker 1: It's raining. I'm very self conscious of my glasses because

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Speaker 1: I hate glasses in the rain. They fog up well

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Speaker 1: and they just get red and then all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden it's revealed. Okay, my glasses are disgusting. I'm covered

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Speaker 1: One day in history my glasses were not dirty. It

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Speaker 1: was a great day. It was to say I bought them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, and it was everything was different.

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Speaker 1: Every I've been wearing glasses for twenty years. They've always

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Speaker 2: Were you happy when you like needed to get glasses?

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Speaker 2: Were you secretly like, oh yay.

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Speaker 1: No, you were saying you don't need glasses.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I literally went to the root. No, because I went

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Speaker 2: to the eye don't. I went to look at us

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Speaker 2: fighting on your podcast. I went to the eye doctor

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Speaker 2: two weeks, like a month ago whatever, and they said

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Speaker 1: Just so you know, twenty twenty was the worst year

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Speaker 1: You remember that? Oh?

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Speaker 3: She yeah, the eye doctor.

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Speaker 1: I forget. I forget sometimes that women can be doctors.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: She was a bad ass.

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Speaker 1: I'm learning. Okay, we have to talk about ghosts though. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so EJ, you were on once. I was. I was

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Speaker 1: trying to shall be.

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Speaker 2: Years ago, years and years ago. I was trying to

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Speaker 5: That could be, but it's probably ultimately the sound of

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Speaker 2: Okay. I feel sorry, ladies. Sorry to that's like crazy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not on this.

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Speaker 3: Pod, But I do believe in ghost with evidence, it

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we want to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're so ghost Yeah, experts.

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Speaker 1: Now, route didn't you tell me before that you grew

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Speaker 5: I did grow up Wickan, So I grew up very

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Speaker 5: much as a believer in the spiritual realm, the metaphysical

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Speaker 1: Okay, honestly done this podcast since early radio days. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we've ever had anyone that grew up Wickan.

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Speaker 5: I think it's because it's like relatively new age. I

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Speaker 5: think it's probably un for people to have been raised

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Speaker 2: Because I feel like most of your mom's wicked friends

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Speaker 5: My mom has a lot of younger wicked friends, but

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Speaker 5: she also has a lot of older wicked friends. But

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Speaker 5: it's usually something people find like, from my observation, it's

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Speaker 3: Not always.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely have a listenership of witches of all ages.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 5: I actually was wondering if my mom listened to this

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Speaker 1: You know, when you said that she knows older witches,

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Speaker 1: that is one of my demographics. Hmmm, I mean older witches.

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Speaker 1: Dare I say like an elderly witch, like a seventy

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Is I've never done a comedy show without at least

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Speaker 1: And then if I do a meet and great, she's like,

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Speaker 5: the tradition I grew up in is like Gardenerian traditional witchcraft.

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Speaker 5: It's like British Wicca. There's like books. It's like very books. No,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I get that. I've I've dabbled, I've done

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Speaker 1: my research because I've had my moments where I'm like

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Speaker 1: I don't want to take this from there, from there

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Speaker 1: put it all together. But I understand. So you were

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Speaker 1: raised in that, dude, were you doing like spells as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 5: Like and when I was like young, every night before

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Speaker 5: you'd sort of cast a circle and like that was

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Speaker 3: It was very comforting as a kid.

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Speaker 4: You were like that that felt important to you to happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 2: It's very comforting.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not, mostly because I'm like I and this

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Speaker 3: No, you don't. You don't.

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Speaker 1: And you kid for me it was And then we.

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Speaker 2: Heard what ten ft away? It was crazy?

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Speaker 3: Who's funny?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: And then the next day do we have the same manager?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I told I told them too. Okay I

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, well what we what did? This is just

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Speaker 3: You come stomping into the room.

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Speaker 2: Well it's not always stomping. Comes stomping in, not always stomping.

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Speaker 5: The wickan skeptic, Hey, but I'm saying that's energy.

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Speaker 2: But for me, I'm like, I don't really stomp as

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Speaker 3: Well you're one hundred and.

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Speaker 5: Thirty two hundred, so yeah, you don't stop as hard

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 3: Also, our first apartment was haunted.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I have an amazing ghost story the Nutcracker.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, Ross, this is actually terrifying. This will

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Speaker 3: Our first apartment in LA was disgusting.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of stuff going on. It was

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Speaker 3: It was like that sort of zone, which, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And it was the kind of thing where like we

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Speaker 5: And so this because we kept on getting denied from

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so this apartment we failed on Craigslist.

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Speaker 3: Craigslist for sure.

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Speaker 5: Like blurry photos, like all lowercase call like call phone number.

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Speaker 2: We show up there, like they just like give us

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Speaker 2: like the lock box coach, like let ourselves in. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we go in fully furnished weird.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but furnished in like a weird way, like really

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Speaker 1: It looked very.

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Speaker 3: Strange, but it was.

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Speaker 5: It looked like someone went to Salvation Army like one

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Speaker 5: Like a couch and a chair, yeah, painting of a daisy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was weird vibes printed on. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 2: it felt like no one.

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Speaker 4: Had been in there for like a really long time.

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Speaker 3: We're like, okay, but we go in the bathroom. In

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Speaker 2: Shit, okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they wanted to show you that it worked. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Fully, but it like just that goes to show. So anyway, needless,

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Speaker 2: We're like twenty four years old, Like, I mean, this

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Speaker 1: Guys, we got an amazing apartment.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing and big.

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Speaker 2: It was big, and it was in our budget and

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Speaker 2: previous to being apartments, that building had been a place

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Speaker 4: To buy drugs, like resided there maybe if.

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Speaker 2: They were having a margin.

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Speaker 5: Amphetamine was specifically the accusation that.

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Speaker 3: Was leveraged by the upstairs neighbor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think it was one of those things

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Speaker 5: Was flat house, and well there would always be like

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Speaker 2: And wait, the way that ultimately some of this information

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Speaker 2: did you see anyone going into my house?

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Speaker 4: Like she'd been out of town for a couple of days.

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Speaker 4: We're like, no, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: She realized someone had broken into her house because they

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Speaker 5: And that's I know, it is kind of kind of

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Speaker 5: that didn't really bother me that much. Like, actually, not

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Speaker 2: And it's like yeah, like a swee sentiment. He's like

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Speaker 2: don't it's not great to think about someone being in

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Speaker 1: I do it all the time.

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Speaker 5: We thought we think it was maybe multiple people. But anyway,

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Speaker 5: So like that first holiday season we moved to La

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Speaker 5: I get there, perched at the top of the steps

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Speaker 5: I'm like texting all of our friends, of which we

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Speaker 5: When I was like, hey, anybody leave me like a

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Speaker 5: text it to EJ and EJ's sisters like check it

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Speaker 5: for cameras.

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Speaker 3: Check it for cameras.

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Speaker 2: She's my sister, I know. She immediately goes check it

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Speaker 3: I like, rip this wooden nutcracker apart. There's nothing there.

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Speaker 5: I like go to sleep in the house, but I

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Speaker 3: It's haunted.

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Speaker 5: I come back, there is a leak from the so

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Speaker 5: I marched my ass on back down to Rampart village.

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Speaker 2: And it had been raining, so I think at first.

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Speaker 5: Came in through the window. But I go up there,

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Speaker 5: We're gonna check it out together. I go to the

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Speaker 5: The locksmith unopens the door, opens the door. He says

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Speaker 5: to the landlord, all right, two hundred dollars, which is expensive,

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Speaker 5: but that is how much it costs to get holiday service.

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Speaker 5: What do you get, Like that is a very normal

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Speaker 1: Locksmiths they that you find you a locksmith, honey, the

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Speaker 3: But basically the landlord was like, the landlord was like.

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Speaker 2: The landlord was a horrible The landlord.

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Speaker 1: Alcohol.

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Speaker 5: I asked him to fix our oven. He like, comes

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00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 5: to fix our oven. It is clear that it needs

446
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 5: to be replaced, and I was like, okay, can you

447
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 5: replace it? He goes, why would I replace it if

448
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 5: I'm gonna bull goze this place in two months and

449
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 5: put a fire.

450
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 2: Eye is really scary?

451
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 5: And I say, okay, so it's rent stabilized, So that's fine.

452
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 5: You owe me twenty thousand dollars. Anyways, long story short,

453
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 5: he refuses to play the locksmith. The locksmith goes, okay,

454
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 5: locks the door back up, runs away. I never slept

455
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 5: another night in that apartment complex.

456
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 3: We moved out and then but didn't.

457
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 2: We find out I don't remember how we found this

458
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: out that the spot that had been leaking was where

459
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: the bathtub was. Yes, yeah, and so it.

460
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: Was like somebody died in that bout that's.

461
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: I mean, or something like it, because that only happens

462
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: if gets overflowing. I feel like it at least through

463
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: the freakin.

464
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, we never found out, but yeah, I won't bore

465
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 5: you with the details, but pretty much, through some very

466
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 5: strategic maneuvering and searching of city records, I did find

467
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 5: out the apartment had been illegally subdivided and that they

468
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 5: could not legally collect rent from us.

469
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so we basically squatted there, squatting a couple

470
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: of months in that.

471
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 5: But well squatting in that. Technically the lease was so good,

472
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 5: but we were like we left. The last night I

473
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 5: spent at that place was the night the morning when

474
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 5: I came back and it was all wet in the bed.

475
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, so that was crazy.

476
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 3: It was like go sort of walking.

477
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: There was definitely like really intense energy in the place.

478
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: I will say, like it was like something was dark there,

479
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: and it was. There was a lot of stuff going

480
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: on with the landlords and the people's like frogging or whatever,

481
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: but there was ghostly.

482
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 5: There was definitely ghostly energy, like for sure people had

483
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 5: been murdered there for.

484
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: Sure, and stuff would happen in our space, like I

485
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: feel like there was stuff.

486
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 4: That we'd noticed and I'd be like, did we move that?

487
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 5: But then it's like like constantly discovering crawl spaces that

488
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 5: were like we like were watching we At this time,

489
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 5: we were also running in a sort of an unpermanent

490
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 5: pet hotel, and we had two kittens that were staying

491
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 5: the US. And one morning we wake up the kitten's gone.

492
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 5: And these kittens belonged to the daughter of Johnny Knoxville.

493
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 5: Lovely girl.

494
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 3: But we went to school with.

495
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: So Jenny Knoxville, Johnny Knoxville, there was her name, Jenny knot.

496
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 3: Jenny.

497
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 5: Actually very nice girl we went to school with. But

498
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 5: I was like, cannot lose Johnny knox Hill's grand kittens

499
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 5: turn up. They had discovered a crawl space that had

500
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 5: been like painted over, but the kittens like discovered it,

501
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 5: like like shredded it open their way out.

502
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: We found them. They were like two feet from the house.

503
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my, well they're Knoxvills. They probably to get hurt.

504
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

505
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

506
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Sylvia Brown?

507
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know who that is.

508
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: I don't either, okay?

509
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: Is that the Long Island Medium?

510
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: I just love it? Well, I don't know that is okay.

511
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: So Sylvia Brown was before the Long Island Medium, very eighties, nineties,

512
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: two thousand's. She made a lot of predictions. She would

513
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: go on this TV show called The Montel Williams.

514
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I've seen this show.

515
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: She would be a guest on there, and then people

516
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: in the audience would be would ask questions and she

517
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: would fire off answers. Whether she thought it out or not,

518
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: she would just go for it, and I'm sure she

519
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: was right at times, but there was definitely a lot

520
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: of not so great I mean guesses. Okay, but you

521
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: know what, master of improv she would roll with it.

522
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 4: I mean, and that's talent.

523
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: Actually, she's real hot right now. Her I mean, she's

524
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: been done for a number of years, but her clips

525
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: have really been going around. Amy Poehler just did an

526
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: impression of her essentially on SNL. They used a different

527
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: it was like a different character, but it was Zilia Brown.

528
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: Let me show you the most iconic clip. Oh yes, geeha,

529
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: can you show us, honey the land stand by? We

530
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 1: always have this one ready to go?

531
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: Who is in our house? First of all?

532
00:26:53,160 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 6: George and Hazel anchering, p I K, I G.

533
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: This woman.

534
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 6: I would look it up on you know the background

535
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 6: of the house.

536
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: Our house is only ten years old.

537
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 6: Money the land, Oh, how do you think the land

538
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 6: is money, honey.

539
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: So she doesn't skip She's like, doesn't skip a beat.

540
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: It's so funny. I like how they both have red

541
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: hair for one. Hell yeah, I mean do you believe?

542
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 5: I guess I would ask both of you, what's the

543
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 5: degree to which you believe in the legitimacy of like

544
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 5: mediums psychics?

545
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: Um? Uh, not real until you prove me otherwise. Yeah,

546
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: kind of.

547
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of fakers obviously.

548
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel bad because I say this constantly,

549
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: but I'll say it to you, to the two of you.

550
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: I always think of it like it's sense of humor.

551
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: Everybody's got it, a little bit of something, you know.

552
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: But when you commit to being like this is my job. Yeah, yeah,

553
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: I take a lot of risks and a lot of

554
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: them bomb yes, okay, yeah, so I think it's similar.

555
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I just yeah, it's hard for me to believe.

556
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,239
Speaker 2: I've been to one psychic in my life, and I

557
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: feel like, well, first of all, she asked me my

558
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: birthday before anything else, and so then she knew my

559
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: like sign or whatever, and then it just felt like

560
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: she was and I'm a pist.

561
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 4: Season then it just she kind of like the whole

562
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 4: time is.

563
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: Like you love water, and I was like, this is

564
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: not That's why the bathtub overflowed.

565
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: Of time.

566
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: Exactly.

567
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: That makes sense.

568
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: What about you, Rue?

569
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 5: I think I believe in it, but I don't think

570
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 5: that a legitimate psychic is going on the Montel Williams show.

571
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 5: Like I think a legitimate psychic like maybe lives like

572
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 5: in a village and is like a healer, but it

573
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 5: doesn't have a TikTok is not like doing zoom sessions.

574
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 5: Is not going on Morey Povich or whatever.

575
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 4: Okay, because they don't need to do all that.

576
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: They don't need to do all How do we make money?

577
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: Though?

578
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 5: I mean, I think a legitimate psychic doesn't seek to

579
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 5: make money from their spiritual gifts.

580
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, I cast share at the grocery store or something.

581
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: You're just saying, sure, there's a lot of people like

582
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: that that's just living a normal life. But they are

583
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: like incredible psychics.

584
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 4: They're like tapped into something.

585
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: But let's watch Sylvia because this is I mean, I

586
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: truly consider doing this if all else fails, just from

587
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: watching her, because she's so good at just pulling things

588
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: out and going with it. Let's just watch a series

589
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: of clips from her. Jihaw, what do you got for us?

590
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: Time I go to my brother's home, my sister in

591
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: law says, you're surrounded by angels? Is that true?

592
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: Her mouth is wide open, absolutely, thank you.

593
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 6: It's a shame she isn't.

594
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: Oh, oh, she's so satisfied after throwing that one out.

595
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: She isn't.

596
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she was a sassy lady. Do let's

597
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: see another one.

598
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: Hi, Sylvia.

599
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 5: My name is Hessena and I'm about eighteen years ago.

600
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: My father went on a business ship and never returned.

601
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 5: The day that he's supposed to come, he called and

602
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 5: never came.

603
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: My family search time low, no results. So I just

604
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: want to know if he's dead.

605
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 6: He's alive in Florida.

606
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? You know?

607
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 6: That's like going out for a pack of cigarettes and

608
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 6: not coming back.

609
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: It is a cigarette right now?

610
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

611
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: No? Does that make sense? No?

612
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: I mean where she get Florida from? I don't know, but.

613
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: The deadbeat dads go to disappear a likely place.

614
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

615
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 1: But I mean, if you can just pull out like

616
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: one noun, it makes it so that you're not lying anymore,

617
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It makes it seem that way. Yeah,

618
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: asked me a.

619
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: Question, what's your earliest memory?

620
00:30:59,520 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 6: No?

621
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: No, no, about No, you have to be like a client,

622
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: and I'm Sylvia.

623
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: Okay, it is my grandmother proud of me?

624
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: Wait, I have to have my mouth wide open like

625
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: she had.

626
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: Is my late grandmother proud of me?

627
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: No?

628
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: See, because she's like it's also like the mouth open

629
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: is like she's concentrating so hard.

630
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: She's channeling. I see your grandmother right now. Your grandmother says,

631
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: Your grandmother says, yes, and you should.

632
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: Go to Florida.

633
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: Does that make any sense?

634
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: Yes, she's gotta deal with the Florida tourism board.

635
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: Show me another one, do you have? Please?

636
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 6: Could you also tell me my spirit guides name? His

637
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 6: name is Malorie Mallorie Male.

638
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: His name is Malory her name.

639
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: But you know what, But that's why you would go, well,

640
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: she can't be making those yeah, exactly, exactly outrageous.

641
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, she knew it instantly.

642
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 6: What.

643
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of people would ask who's the ghost

644
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: in my house? What's my spirit guide's name? And she

645
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: quick as can be anytime it's like a oh, our

646
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: house is from the eighteen hundred. She would be like, uh,

647
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: what's like an old person. What's her name? Back then,

648
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: she'd be like Edmund. His name is Edmund, Edmund.

649
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: You had a flush of sorlia, Hi, Sylvia. I was

650
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: just wondering if I had any past lives and what

651
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 2: they were.

652
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, you had thirty seven past lives and your last

653
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 6: life was in Jerusalem and it was about one hundred

654
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 6: years go and you were a rabbi.

655
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. Okay. This girl is just like, okay,

656
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. That's exactly what I came here for.

657
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: Thank you. But I mean, she can just she can

658
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: just come up with it. It's just brilliant. I think

659
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: it's so good.

660
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: I would like to know my future husband's name.

661
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: Is your husband's name?

662
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 6: You got a phone number within it?

663
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: Yes, Justin, Jesse, Justin, Justin?

664
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: She said, just.

665
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: Wait, how do you know you'd have one?

666
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 6: Ask you?

667
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: Thank you?

668
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 6: So if a guy walked up to you and said

669
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 6: his name was Justin, you.

670
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: Wouldn't go out with him.

671
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: So that got could be a billionaire, It could be

672
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 1: the nicest guy.

673
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: Well you wouldn't it just because his name was Justin.

674
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: I've been in a relationship for nine years and we

675
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: love each other very much.

676
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: But he hasn't asked me to marry him yet.

677
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: Oh, well.

678
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: He woone either.

679
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 5: I'm also like, what kind of fucking gal do you

680
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 5: have to be like asking this obviously fake psychic a

681
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 5: question and then be so ten toes down rejecting what

682
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 5: she has to say. Kind you'd be like, yeah, no,

683
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 5: it's like no, you don't know, like you're putting your

684
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 5: trust in this.

685
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: You don't get to switch it up on the system.

686
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 5: Like no, I'm like, if you're getting on the train,

687
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 5: ride it to your stop.

688
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, okay, yeah, you're signing up for whatever you're

689
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: getting to be a good sport. Yeah, be a good sport.

690
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It is really random to ask such a

691
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 2: specific question and go no, well, i's.

692
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: You this whole time. Yeah, I'm engaged, but it sounds like.

693
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: But she's not even engaged because you won't propose.

694
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, and he never will ring.

695
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I would be. I would be curious about that.

696
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, nine years totally.

697
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: Now do you have any ghost stories any other ghost story?

698
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 2: Well, we were talking about the trip the cabin.

699
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: Oh, well, Lydia's bed breaking.

700
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's not really good.

701
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: Okay, here's what I need you to channel is your

702
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: inner Sylvia? Yeah, I'm asking for a ghost story.

703
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, give.

704
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: It to me.

705
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I know I've heard that cats really toe

706
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: the line between the living and the dead. Dude, know

707
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: about this or is this is this part of your

708
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: like ghostliness at all?

709
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, animals they say, yeah, can see ghosts

710
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: and are more.

711
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: They're more tuned in.

712
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

713
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 2: Well, just before if we do want to talk about

714
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: the cabin, this is just like a quick aside before,

715
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: which is that my childhood cat died like a few

716
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: months ago and he was literally twenty two years old.

717
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so he needed to go. But he

718
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: died a few months ago, and he would always get

719
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: his tongue sticking out, like his tongue would be sticking out,

720
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: like he wouldn't realize it, but he would have his

721
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: tongue it would be.

722
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: Stuck, even getting real stupid.

723
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: Even before he got ancient. And we have two cats

724
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: in our apartment. Neither of them has ever done that.

725
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: The day my childhood cat passed, walk into the bedroom,

726
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 2: our cat corbyn tongue sticking out.

727
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: That's a ghost story that.

728
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: I was kind of like, that's kind of crazy. The

729
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: day he died.

730
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: I've never seen that behavior, never seen it.

731
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, took a picture, sent it to my family, said,

732
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: I think Dyl's spirit is here.

733
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: What do you think that is? Do you think that

734
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: your childhood ghosts or cat, your childhood cat came in

735
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: and was like, hey, you know what'd be really funny?

736
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: Or do you think that your childhood cat is now

737
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: inside of your current cat somehow.

738
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's in side of him, but

739
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: I do feel like he there is maybe communication that

740
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: wasn't there before because he left his physical forum or

741
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: you know it is not is no longer earthside, they're

742
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: able to have a bit more of a dialogue and

743
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: feel connected.

744
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 5: I think he was passing on a message to you

745
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 5: to be like I'm okay, Yeah, to be like I'm okay,

746
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 5: Like pour your love into Corbon.

747
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

748
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: Not Miriam.

749
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: But Miriam is different energy.

750
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 4: She's the other cat.

751
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: She's just she's she's.

752
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 4: Got very witchy.

753
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: We call her a little witch.

754
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 4: She's a witch like.

755
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: She she's also.

756
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: A Halloween cat we got on Halloween on Halloween.

757
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

758
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

759
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 5: But also Corbyn the cat like he's constantly especially honestly

760
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 5: at our last place, he would be staring at the wall.

761
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 3: Like blank white wall, and he's like this, yeah, I do.

762
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: Feel like cant around see stuff. Yeah, because had a frogger,

763
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: there was somebody behind that wall moving around.

764
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, definitely he's hearing shit.

765
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you know if there's a TV show that's

766
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: like a frogger, like where it's like a person telling

767
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: a story and there's reenactments and like each episode is

768
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: just like one story.

769
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 4: That show that used to be on the Haunting or.

770
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: Was obsessed with that.

771
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 5: Did you ever watch that, Joe, Oh my god, it's

772
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 5: like a ghost stories show.

773
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: It would be like people, it would be like a

774
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: reality quote unquote.

775
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: I think it's called frogging Colon hide her in my

776
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: house And I started watching it on two B one time,

777
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: and it's good. And if anyone's listening, they don't know

778
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: that term. It's it's a person that's secretly living in

779
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: your house, which I think needs to be talked about

780
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: more in the conversation of ghosts.

781
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: Like yeah, because people assume ghosts and it's like, no,

782
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: it's just a guy.

783
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I wouldn't doubt that that landlord that you

784
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: had probably also has an ad that's like Cross Space

785
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: two a month for the Cross Space. Can I play

786
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: you some ghost voice? It's time for EVP or ev please?

787
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: What's EVP stand for?

788
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: Electronic voice phenomena.

789
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: They would do this all the time on that one show.

790
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: What's it? What was it called? Well, there's a lot

791
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: of shows, but the Haunting, The Haunting was one.

792
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: A Haunting was one we should watch some I love

793
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 2: reenacting and they do a live re enactment with actors.

794
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: Oh, I get so scared.

795
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: Nothing's better than celebrity ghost stories, though, I'm telling you

796
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: should watch that one. Okay. So here's what happens. Electronic

797
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: voice phenomena is what we call in the industry whenever

798
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: a ghost is captured speaking. Sometimes it's like, oh, someone's

799
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: just taking a video and then all of a sudden likeasag,

800
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: what was that? Okay? And then people put them up

801
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: on YouTube. I take two of them and I'm gonna

802
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: play them for you, and I want you to tell

803
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: me what you hear, okay, and then I'll give you

804
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: abc D.

805
00:39:59,640 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: Okay.

806
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: One of them is what the person that posted it

807
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: believes it's saying.

808
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 3: Okay, okay.

809
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: This first one is from a person named the orb Queen, Pennsylvania.

810
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: Yes, my mom's friends, no doubt.

811
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: And it appears to be like a ringcam footage and

812
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: the ORB Queen caught this. Oh clear as day? Yeah, definitely,

813
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: let me play it again.

814
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 4: I know exactly what it's saying.

815
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: Can you say? Okay, wait, wait, we'll do it one more. Okay,

816
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: let's hear your guys, eja.

817
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 4: I want you dead?

818
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: What about you?

819
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 6: Rue?

820
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: Hey, put that down?

821
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: Okay, I hear put that down.

822
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: I hear both of yours. Well, that's not what they thought.

823
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: Did they think it was A? Hey? Do you use vine?

824
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like a twenty thirteen ghost like maybe they

825
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: died then that's what they thought.

826
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: It's way too many syllables.

827
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: This is one option.

828
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: Okay, do they think it was B?

829
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: Hey? Do you mind?

830
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 4: I could see that?

831
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: See? Hey, where's my head?

832
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 3: Okay?

833
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 5: So that one's way or D.

834
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: Near the land?

835
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 4: I think B.

836
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: I think B as well?

837
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: Hey, do you mind? Is correct?

838
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 6: Ah?

839
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 1: Hey? Do you mind quit filming me? Okay? This next

840
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: one is from w V Ghost Chronicles. I'm guessing West Virginia.

841
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: What's this ghost saying? Oh that's good, that's good as

842
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: clear as day?

843
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: One more time?

844
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: Guesses.

845
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, one, two, three shoot, hmmm.

846
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 4: That sound's really hard for me.

847
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: Can you hear them?

848
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: Really? It sounds so so obvious.

849
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: Like to me, it sounds like a sneeze.

850
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: Well, neither of those are what they thought. Did they

851
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: think it was a progressive soup?

852
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: That's very good?

853
00:42:53,840 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: B aggressive two C don't threatened me?

854
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 6: Or D.

855
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: E J and rue.

856
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: Shut up? I think it's I think it was was

857
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 3: be the one that had two in it?

858
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: Aggressive too, Yeah, I think it was. They think it's

859
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: se don't threaten me. It's not.

860
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 5: People are like projecting so much onto these ghosts because

861
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 5: I feel like the presumption is I mean, I'm sure

862
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 5: you talk about this a lot in the show, but

863
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 5: the people presume sometimes malintent.

864
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know about that one.

865
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 5: Are you of the frame of mind that a ghost

866
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 5: is around because of unfinished business or some sort of

867
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 5: vendetta or do you think like some people just sort

868
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 5: of like incidentally become ghosts and it's random.

869
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: I think I think if you die at PEP, this

870
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: is just one of my working beliefs. Uh huh, if

871
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: you die at peace, okay, where you're like, I know

872
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die accepted it. Then you have the ability

873
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: to sort of like come visit your friends when they're

874
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: on the Manta Williams Show or whatever. Like I think

875
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: you can like that's more the vibe you can kind

876
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: of elect. But I think if you die like instantly

877
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: and you're like what the fuck you don't even know

878
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: ye you're dead. I think I think that's one of

879
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: the things. And I and I think that goes along

880
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: with like the unfinished business thing because the people that

881
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: were at peace, like they got their business taken care

882
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: of and they can come back because they like this

883
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: house or whatever. But then there's people that are like

884
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: stuck because they had a something that they wanted to achieve.

885
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: Or do you think ghosts are the same, Like are

886
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: ghosts the same as like you know, when someone dies and.

887
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 4: People are like, like.

888
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: You know, someone dies in they're like, oh, like if

889
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: you see like a red cardinal, like that's me coming

890
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: back or something. And then after they pass, then when

891
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: someone sees a red cardinal, they're like, oh, that's my

892
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: mom or whatever.

893
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

894
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: Is that the same as a ghost or like a

895
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: visit from a spirit or is that just like a

896
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: spirit kind of like like what is that or what's

897
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: the difference.

898
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: I really think that if you like die at peace

899
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: or like if you figure out like to go to

900
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: the light or whatever, then I feel like you have

901
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: the powers that you could do stuff like that. That's

902
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: what I think. Yeah, Like I think if because I

903
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: also think there's people that are dead and they they're

904
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: just pissed about it and they don't want to be

905
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: dead and that's why they're ghosts. But then like if

906
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: they go to the light, then then they have the

907
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 1: power to be like, my god, you'll be sickening if

908
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: I was a dragonflyer and I just like go visit them. Yeah,

909
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: I think you're like you have privileges if you're like

910
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: okay with being dead.

911
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

912
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: But if for whatever reason, you're resisting it or like

913
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: it happens so suddenly and you don't even know that

914
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: you're dead or you're just like unhappy period, Like I

915
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I think there's just like a lot of

916
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: reasons why people get stuck.

917
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 5: So that's why I go skew children, why they why

918
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 5: there are more children ghosts then are there?

919
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't think the kids know any different.

920
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: Like I think, like they don't know how to process that.

921
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden they're just like Yead

922
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: in the eighteen hundreds in the lacey dress, and now

923
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: they're just like and they.

924
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: Always trying to play, Like I feel like I hear

925
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: stories about that where it's like.

926
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: The coasts are always they always have a.

927
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: Ball that they're rolling, yeah, with a stick, trying to

928
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: play with you.

929
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you ask eighteen hundred toys.

930
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: But like, here's my question, how did the toy become

931
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: a ghost? How did the ball? Did someone pop the

932
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: ball and now it's dead?

933
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: Maybe their whole have to be holding the toy at

934
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: the moment.

935
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: Of what happens. It's like when you go on like

936
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: a like a time machine, like if you hop in

937
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: whatever you have.

938
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 5: With you is there's some versions where you're naked, like

939
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 5: in the Time Traveler's Wife.

940
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: Or Austin Powers.

941
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: Right, well, maybe that's also like like maybe the toy

942
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: isn't ghostly and that's why we see things moving on

943
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: the road.

944
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: Right right, there's some questions, what do you think a bigfoot?

945
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: Oh, well, you know, I'm a I'm from the Pacific Northwest,

946
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: so I grew up.

947
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: Where are you from?

948
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: I'm from Pennsylvania, Philadelphia.

949
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, so you really your mom really might be

950
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: the orb Queen.

951
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 5: No, literally, she might know or Queen Underswore Pennsylvania.

952
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: Okay, so you grew up in the culture.

953
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 4: I grew up in the culture.

954
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: It's a very big part of the culture.

955
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 4: It really is.

956
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: Oh. I was just recently at the Seattle Airport and

957
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: there was like so much mergeah Bigfoot.

958
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: Well, and this is going to go into what we

959
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: was about to talk about, because we watched this documentary

960
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: together that you're in reference.

961
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: But is it the one that ends up being like

962
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: a wee thing.

963
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: Yes, it's really connected to that. But I do think

964
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 2: there's sound stuff there because I think that like there's

965
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: definitely a lot of people living off the land in

966
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: the Pacific Northwest and being sort of funny to land

967
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: the land. Fuck yeah, it's fertile as all get out

968
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: and no idea idea But anyway, yes, but we watched

969
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: this documentary about it a little bit, but it's I mean,

970
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 2: do you want to explain the theory?

971
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 5: Well, as I'm about to say, I don't know that

972
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 5: they said this in the documentary.

973
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: They did, they did.

974
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 5: Okay, because I sort of also thought this is something

975
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 5: I made of you take out for it. So there's

976
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 5: an observed phenomenon of Vietnam War veterans of like I mean,

977
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 5: I don't want to say feral because I think that

978
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 5: sort of like doesn't treat it. It's like a psychological

979
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 5: phenomenon where people are just like really distressed from PTSD

980
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 5: and so they sort of like sink into the woods

981
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 5: and like do things like cover themselves with like mud,

982
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 5: or wear sticks in their hair or like these like

983
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 5: big burly men who are just sort of haunted by

984
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 5: the crimes they've committed under coercion by the state. Okay,

985
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 5: I'm not sure how politically you like to get but yeah, fine,

986
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 5: I think people just I think people it's I think

987
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 5: it's like probably many large crazy men.

988
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like traumatized vets who like adorn themselves in

989
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: furs and they run through the woods.

990
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: Like it's like how they dressed in yellow jackets. But

991
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: it's like men in their seventies.

992
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

993
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: I also think there's also like drugs are also obviously

994
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: a big part of this too, where it's like the

995
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: you know, the sort of like shroom and weed culture

996
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: in the.

997
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: But how did they stay hidden.

998
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 3: Well, I think they're like hermits.

999
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're really out there.

1000
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 3: Like there's so I mean, there's so many people who

1001
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 3: really live out there.

1002
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: Well there's I mean, there's so much like densely for

1003
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: it state land like in Oregon and Washington that is

1004
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: really like you could fully have like a California, Yeah,

1005
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: northern California where there's like I mean, that was actually

1006
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: one of the most striking things about this documentary.

1007
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 4: We should find out what it's actually called, because we

1008
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 4: keep referencing it.

1009
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: But like there were these like sweeping like bird's eye

1010
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: view shots of just like because I grew up in

1011
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: Portland and so I grew up very familiar with the

1012
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: like feeling of being in a forest, like a lot

1013
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 2: of Portland is forest honestly, but like the sweeping birds,

1014
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 2: I view shots of like this densest like thick evergreen trees,

1015
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: and you're like, anything could be happening out there.

1016
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 1: Yea's so scary to think about, like just being out.

1017
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 5: There scared, like when we're hiking and camping and stuff like,

1018
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 5: I mean, this is so cliche, but I am so

1019
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 5: much more scared to encounter like a random human than

1020
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 5: like an animal.

1021
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: Because they don't want to be found.

1022
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think about past lives?

1023
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: One believe in them and you I believe in them too.

1024
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: And I think you're just saying that because.

1025
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: I do really believe in them. I believe in them,

1026
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 2: and I feel like my strongest evidence is just like

1027
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: I really feel like some people I meet and I'm like,

1028
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 2: we've met before. Really, I just know that I know you, Like,

1029
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: I feel like the people I'm closest to for the

1030
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 2: most part the day, like I can remember like meeting

1031
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: them and being like, this is just not the first

1032
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: time we've met. There's something deeper there. There's a familiarity

1033
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 2: that it couldn't be just like, oh, we have stuff

1034
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 2: in common.

1035
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the last time I swear it was

1036
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: like like the Renaissance period, but I was yeah, yeah,

1037
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: I feel like it's that.

1038
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1039
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely believe in them. My mom is a

1040
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 5: huge believer in them. Yeah, she has my whole life,

1041
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 5: said that she believes that we have been spending many

1042
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 5: lifetimes together. But then also she says my sister is

1043
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 5: in New Soul, which I mean, I think it's clear

1044
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 5: who the favorite child is with that information. Yeah, just kidding,

1045
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 5: but I think, yeah, I also think just some, especially

1046
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 5: when you work with kids, and I mean maybe this

1047
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 5: is like because of trauma or stuff going on at home,

1048
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 5: but some see way more wisened than the others. Like

1049
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 5: there are just like some kids, oh kay. I used

1050
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 5: to spend a lot of time like working in kindergarten

1051
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 5: classrooms and there were just like a lot of kids

1052
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 5: who had a sort of like strength and wisdom to them.

1053
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,479
Speaker 3: And it wasn't maturity, it.

1054
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 5: Was something different of like you like you sort of

1055
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 5: natively or like you have this like innate knowledge that

1056
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 5: the other kids aren't working with. And I think it's

1057
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 5: because you're like not stressing because you like have seen

1058
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 5: all this before.

1059
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1060
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think kids are really good sources of like

1061
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: proof of past lives because it is like I mean,

1062
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: it's kids say the darnedest things or whatever. But it's like,

1063
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: I mean the amount of times, like because we both

1064
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 2: used to work with kids a lot, like the amount

1065
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 2: of times you would hear like a four year old

1066
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 2: just be like no, I know, yeah, You're like this

1067
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 2: is what this is and they're like I'm well aware.

1068
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: It's like a very I'm older than you.

1069
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like, and you might be I don't know. Yeah,

1070
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: they're so funny.

1071
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask one more. Okay, conspiracy theories. Do

1072
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: you have a favorite one that's like just like a

1073
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: fun one.

1074
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 5: Great American street car scandal. I mean, I'm sure people

1075
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 5: have said this before.

1076
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: No, what, I don't even know what that is.

1077
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 5: Well, it's featured in Who Framed Waja Wabbit? But it's

1078
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 5: the idea that the Ford Company went and bought up

1079
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 5: all brought up streetcar companies around the country and ripped

1080
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 5: up the track so that people would be forced to participate.

1081
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: In car culture.

1082
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 2: I thought that was just true.

1083
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 5: It's not, well, they say there's not really. There was

1084
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 5: like a whole congressional hearing.

1085
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, they did other things to incentivize driving though.

1086
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, of course that was not the only thing.

1087
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, But that that one's like not quite proven.

1088
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 5: Of like they literally like literally buying and ripping up

1089
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 5: the tracks. It's not totally proven. Yeah, but what is

1090
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 5: white Man's proof anyone?

1091
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: Right?

1092
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 1: See, this is what I come here for because it's

1093
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: been new that I've brought up this question of asking

1094
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: people about conspiracy theories. Because I feel like the right

1095
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: has really co opted conspiracy theories. But I think there's

1096
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: a lot of fun that we can have with conspiracy theory.

1097
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I think we should.

1098
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: Any of them are true.

1099
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 5: Like I just read this book, this four hundred I mean,

1100
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 5: my favorite kind of book is a four hundred page

1101
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 5: book about a conspiracy theory.

1102
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: But I read, so you're really into conspiracy.

1103
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 5: I'm really into conspiracy well just because I'm really into

1104
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 5: like the history.

1105
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: Do you have to sit here and listen to this

1106
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: all the time?

1107
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: I actually really like it because it is very like

1108
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 2: I'm like I'm learning stuff, you know, like.

1109
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 3: Like that's my special interest.

1110
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 5: I'm really interested in like military history and like the

1111
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 5: history of like intelligence and stuff.

1112
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: Do you know about like psych in the military.

1113
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: Are you talking about like like MK ultra.

1114
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, like all that kind of stuff is really

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Speaker 1: I don't really.

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Speaker 3: Know about psychic specifically that I'm interested.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you should get out to that. I don't either.

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Speaker 1: But I know the thing that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a really good point though, Roz about

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Speaker 2: like us having our like leftist perspective on conspiracy theories

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Speaker 2: kind of it's like honestly important because it is like

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Speaker 2: so much of American history is like literally conspired to

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Speaker 2: make us.

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Speaker 5: I mean like co intel pro Like I feel like

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Speaker 5: that should that is enough for anyone to like never

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Speaker 5: trust the state ever.

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Speaker 3: Ever.

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Speaker 5: That's like the way like the FBI, like j Agar

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Speaker 5: Hoover's FBI was like spying on like black radicals and

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Speaker 5: like student activists. At one point, they like set a

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Speaker 5: honey trap for MLK and like I don't remember exactly

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Speaker 5: what happened, but they either like got a recording or

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Speaker 5: like a video of him flirting with another woman sent

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Speaker 5: it to Kreta Scott just a fuck with his head.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you guys.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's also like the move bombing in Philly like

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Speaker 2: stuff like that, where it's just like the government obviously, like.

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Speaker 5: Say, that's when they bombed a whole city block in

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Speaker 5: my neighborhood growing like I was. I was like twenty

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Speaker 5: years before I was born, but like so many people

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Speaker 5: don't know that. In the eighties, like the US government

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Speaker 5: fully burned down an entire city block in West Philadelphia

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Speaker 5: like fifty or something homes to yeah, and killed a

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Speaker 5: bunch of black radicals because there was a bunch of.

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Speaker 2: Black radicals, Like like families children like extended families, and

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Speaker 2: that like literally bombed them because the government was afraid

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Speaker 2: of them, you know, and that which is like nothing new,

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Speaker 2: of course they've been doing this forever, but like stuff

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Speaker 2: like that where I'm like, why would yeah, like why

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Speaker 2: would we believe these the state? Why did you go

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Speaker 2: with them?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I know, I know? Hey, where can we find you?

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Speaker 3: You can find.

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Speaker 5: You can follow me on Instagram at rue dot on

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Speaker 5: dot the dot web just ru on the web dots

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Speaker 5: between the words how about you.

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Speaker 2: My name on Instagram and TikTok is EJ having fun?

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Speaker 1: Yea, well, I'm so happy you both joined me.

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Speaker 4: God, thanks for having us.

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Speaker 1: I need to like for doing this.

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Speaker 4: Watch I'm going to watch a lot of live re

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Speaker 4: enactments of.

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Speaker 3: I cannot watch that show like the Frogging show that

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Speaker 3: will I can't.

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Speaker 2: I promise you you could because it's so scary it

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Speaker 2: was made. I think I was watching it in like

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Speaker 2: two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: And the Haunting show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like I was in elementary school. I promise

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Speaker 2: you it's not scary like the effects, that visual effect.

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Speaker 1: I don't like that. At least you have somebody to

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Speaker 1: watch it with.

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Speaker 2: On a rainy day.

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Speaker 1: I always put that when I'm all by myself, like

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Speaker 1: to go to bed and then I can't sleep.

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Speaker 4: Do you like horror movies?

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Speaker 2: Do you watch room?

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Speaker 1: Love them?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: All right, bye bye? Thank you so much to EJ

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Speaker 1: and Rue Oh. I love them, and thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

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Speaker 1: Okay bye. This has been an exactly right production. Want

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Speaker 1: to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read

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Speaker 1: stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so

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Speaker 1: email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can send a DM or voice message to the

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Speaker 1: show's instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

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Speaker 1: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram, Roz

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Speaker 1: Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.

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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

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00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

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Speaker 1: sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

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00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by

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Speaker 1: the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon, artwork by the Spooky

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Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

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Speaker 1: by the Chilling Karen Kilgarareff, the Spooky Georgia hart Stark,

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