1 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: True. Hey there, this was Sean McDonald. Welcome to Money 2 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Making Conversation. Money Making Conversation, I'm your host. I'm here 3 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: every Monday. I want to make Conversations as a show 4 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: that provides you with career information so you can be 5 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: successful in your career and in your personal life. I'm 6 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: sharing you with experiences that I've had I've had in 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: my life, sharing you with experiences with relationships I've created, 8 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: Sharing these experiences and gathering information from people who are 9 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: celebrities in its business who at one time we're not celebrities, 10 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: and now they are celebrities. They're switching on the entrepreneur 11 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: hat and taking advantage of their social media, take advantage 12 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: of their fame and shaping it a similar path that 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: you can do yourself. And that's a that's a that's 14 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: the model I'm trying to get out there about these days. 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: Let me make one quick announcement New York City. I'm 16 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: coming New York City. I'm coming this Saturday. I'll be 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: at the Circle of Sisters w b LS. I'll be 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: doing a baking seminar at um New eleven am at 19 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: the Jacob Jabet's Center. Circle of Sisters. Uh Rashan McDonald 20 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: will be doing a color I'll be in the culinary corner. 21 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: It's because stage I'll be making baked banana putting. In fact, 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: I am going to be making baking eight baked banana 23 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: pudding in that so people can sample. So I'll be 24 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: passing out samples. So get in line at eleven am 25 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: Circle of Sisters in New York City with the radio 26 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: station w b LS. I'll be up there this Saturday. 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: Actually I will arrive on Thursday. Uh, do some shopping, 28 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: do some baking on Friday, show up on Saturday morning 29 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: with my eight baked banana puddings. And the only way 30 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: I Rushan can do it, Like I got my man 31 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: RJ and Terrence. They know, see I bring them food 32 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: every week in here, so you know, it's good to 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: have people who get excited about your food. They let 34 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: you know immediately how you feel. Like today, I got 35 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: a little barbecue spread for them that when I'll get 36 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: off the air, they're gonna have the reb tips, They're 37 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: gonna have this sausage, they're gonna have the green beans, 38 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: the barbecue beans, potato salad, all that good stuff that 39 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: comes from the Big Six Barbecue, Big six Barbecue. They 40 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: have a small business that has been on the show. 41 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: Now that afternoon and Circular Sisters, I will be hosting 42 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: a money making Conversation seminar at Jacob Japans at four pm. 43 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: So I'll be two two things I'll be doing while 44 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm there this weekend. At the Circle of Sisters, I'll 45 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: be doing the culinary Corner where I will be doing 46 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: perfect big time with Rushan McDonald and I will be 47 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: demonstrating how to bake banana pudding. But not only that, 48 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: I will be giving out samples because I'll be bringing 49 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: eight baked banana puttings with me. Then at four o'clock 50 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: the afternoon, I'll be doing a seminar on how to 51 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: be successful money making conversation seminar how to be successful 52 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: in your personal life and in your business life, hosted 53 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: by me. And that's what I'll be doing this weekend. 54 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: So please tell your friends I'll be up there. I'll 55 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: be posting on my LinkedIn account. I'll be posting on 56 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: my social media account letting everybody know if she looks 57 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: on the phone. Okay, cool, great, she's on the phone. 58 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: But before I bring online, let's let everybody if you 59 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: want to call. If you want to talk to me 60 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: or any of my guests, please call A three two 61 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: three zero five five nine two. That's eight three two 62 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: two three zero five five nine two. My next guest 63 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: has been on this show. This will be a third 64 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: appearance on this show. That's because she makes it happen 65 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: and she tells it like it is, and she is 66 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: a branding and marketing as they say, Mavin's the CEO 67 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: or be your own brand, which is b while it 68 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: will be trademarked by her. Is the culmination of two 69 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: decades of experience as a marketing executive specializing in branding 70 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: and imaging for talents such as Mary J. Blige, Sean P. 71 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Did Combs, Tony Braxton, Lenny Kravitz, Jeral Scott, baby Face, 72 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: Later Hathaway, and many more. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations. 73 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: The incredible Sheila Coates. Good morning, Good morning. How are 74 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: you doing? Sheila? I am blessed. How are you well? 75 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: You don't feel good talking to you because you have 76 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: that fantastic tone in your voice and you are you 77 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: know it's it's it's elegant and intelligence personified. You know 78 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Flattery will get you. Well, I got to. 79 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: I got to. You know the thing about it whenever 80 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: I have you on the show, whenever we're talking and uh, 81 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: because we have a relationship where we can communicate and 82 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: it's all about how we can get better, how we 83 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: can um take the next step because there's no you know, 84 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: you're never satisfied. I think people tend to believe that 85 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: when you reach your goal, it stops, and that's where 86 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: they make a major mistake. Correct exactly. Look, you're you're 87 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: an example of that personified. You know, how many goals 88 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: have you obtained and you keep on moving. I think 89 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: life is about learning and constantly bettering yourself and understanding 90 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: what you bring to the table. Okay, cool, with that 91 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: being said, Be why O B, which is be your 92 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: own brand that's been trademarked by you. What is it 93 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: all about? So we've got because I got you for 94 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: two breaks today, so we can slow it down. We're 95 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: gonna get the word out. You know, if we've talked 96 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: about how we're gonna eventually create these relationships where you know, 97 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna do conferences around the country and seminars around 98 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: the country, and you're gonna be a major player, and 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: that please explain to everybody why what is b y 100 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: O b okay B while being a nutshell is helping 101 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: people understand how to define their uniqueness and why is 102 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: that important? Because you need to know your competitive edge. 103 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm not the only one doing branding. You're not the 104 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: only one who as a radio show. But what you 105 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: bring to the table and who you are is what 106 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: makes you unique. It separates you from everybody else. So 107 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: what I help people do and help companies do is 108 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: to find that uniqueness. What makes you you? Why you 109 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: You know, we all think we're hot, we all think 110 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: we're amazing, but it's something that you bring to the 111 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: table that other people don't. It's like your DNA. If 112 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: you look at your fingertips, you know the beliefe men 113 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: always go to the fingertips and they're close to someone else, 114 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: but it's not quite that one line that goes in 115 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: a different direction says that that's for Sean McDonald, because 116 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: that's dealer coats. The same is true for your brand 117 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: and b y l by branding you on who you are, 118 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: not what you do, because what will change if you're 119 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: branding yourself on being a television writer and then being 120 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, a partner with Steve Harvey, then you could 121 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: never go into anything else you wanted to do. We're 122 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: never branded herself in one lane. So that goes to 123 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: the question about multiple streams of income. Yes, and a 124 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: lot of people say that, but they don't. There's a 125 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: lot of work involved with that. Look, I'm tired right now. 126 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: Look and over here trying to beat the faith right 127 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: now because I'm tired because when you when you're multiple 128 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: streams of income, it's really multiple streams of the lane 129 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: that you're good in, right See, you don't do multiple streams. 130 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: And I'm a Sheila tried to be a computer science 131 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: person and then tried to get in some kind of 132 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: technical thing and then did the creative thing. It may 133 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: not work for me. But when you look at people 134 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: who are great and multiple streams of revenue because they've 135 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: mastered their lane, that's that's you know lane, you know, 136 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: it's it's And also they understand the multitasking and that's 137 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: really the key. And I hear that a lot. You know, 138 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: I can only focus on one thing, And when I 139 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: hear that, I go, really, that's always you're already telling 140 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: yourself that you don't want to accomplish anything other than 141 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: what you're doing. And when I'm gonna phone right now, 142 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: people just tuned in up. My guess is the CEO 143 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: be your own brand. She's the coach. What is the 144 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: one of the major mistakes that people make when when 145 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: in the marketing in the branding arena because they don't 146 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: understand the difference between marketing and branding. Okay, okay, just 147 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: let that down. There is a difference between marketing and branding. 148 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: That's what you're seeing exactly. Marketing is yelling about who 149 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: I am. I'm telling me that. That's that's a billboard 150 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: that's putting something out there here, I am here, I 151 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: am seeing me. Branding is engagement, influencing the way that 152 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: you think, understanding the perception that you want people to 153 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: get when they engage with you. See, there's a perception 154 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: that I want Rashawan and the listeners to get any 155 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: time they hear me speak. I'm clear about that now. 156 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: When I market, all I'm saying is here, I am. 157 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: Did you see my store? Did you see my business? 158 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: You would you come in and buy something from me? 159 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: That's not engaging, right, that's just telling right. So so 160 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: you're saying, I'm just trying to break it down. Like 161 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: I said, I'm pushing you too far too quick on 162 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: this thought process. So how would that work if you 163 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:20,119 Speaker 1: Chick fil A they market their sandwich, so they brand services. 164 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: That's what they in the quality of their food is 165 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: that's that's the difference. Well, the engagement is who they 166 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: are and what they stand for and getting you to 167 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: understand the kind of sandwich they make. You know, the 168 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: kind of sauce that's on that sand how we deliver 169 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: that see you, that's engagement. Now, whenever they post a 170 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: poster or post a billboard, that's marketing. Yeah, the cow 171 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: on TV pointing to the chickens. Didn't you to see 172 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: the cow? Remember that time? Remember that when you see 173 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: that cow? Think about fil You're engaging me? Is because 174 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: you're sharing something is me about your uniqueness and who 175 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: you are and why I want that experience because I 176 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: read because I wanted to break that down because a 177 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: lot of people, because you know, you throw out these 178 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: words marketing, you throw out these words branding, but really 179 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: the work is in the branding because you can go, yeah, 180 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: I can stand on the corner and then you see 181 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: this a lot people how these are rotating signs when 182 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: they rotate them and you see the signs. So that's 183 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: the marketing part. The branding part is when that customer 184 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: who sees that sign goes in there to get the 185 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: service that you're promoting. Okay, exactly, And it's and it's 186 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: that perception. I'm been on perception because people don't understand 187 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: the power of perception. If I give you something right now, 188 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: let's let's do this. If and you don't even have 189 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: to see this, this is just that's on the radio. 190 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: But if I say a Corvett, something comes to mind, 191 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: car fast car. I say yes. If I said, okay, 192 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: so you took it to fast car. Right, So if 193 00:10:53,720 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: I say a red Corvette, become clear, say aad Corvette 194 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: with M you see a whole different thing because the 195 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: perception is starting to become clearer and clearer and clear. 196 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: Because that's the engagement you have with Corvette that is fast, 197 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: that is cool, that it's moving. You just think, oh, 198 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm barely trying to get there. I'm trying to take 199 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: my kids to school. I need to get to work 200 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: in that car. Because that's a that's more of a Volvo, right, Yes, 201 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: it's the experience that that car is wanting you to have. 202 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: That's why I tell people there's thousands of car company, 203 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: but every time you see one, they don't talk about 204 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: what they have in common. They talk about what makes 205 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: them different. That is so true, and that is the 206 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: marketing and branding difference. So let me ask you this. 207 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: Let me just ask you to because we're going to 208 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: break in a minute. I want you to answer this. 209 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: Fore we go to break. What what benefits does Sheila 210 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: Coach bring to a business or to an individual? Can 211 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: we're going next week we gonna talk about your webinars? 212 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: What is that? What's the benefits? It's uh. If it's 213 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: a company, I do a lot of branding of employees 214 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: and the benefit of that is ultimately companies who want 215 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: to increase their revenues. Because when I when my employees 216 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: feel better and do better, they produce better. They don't 217 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: bring me in because they like me. They're looking for 218 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: ways to uh create better teams, create better leaders, have 219 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: different kinds of teams. Because all teams can be made 220 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: of a quarterback, then there will be nobody to throw to. 221 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: So you gotta understand your uniqueness and what you bring 222 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: to that team. So that's why companies bring me in 223 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, when their employees 224 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: feel better about themselves and are engaged and who they are, 225 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: companies make more money. Individuals preing me and and I've 226 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: worked with the first Lady of Bermuda, numerous artists. Just 227 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: did a piece with the Atlanta Hawks and Monica. What 228 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: we're doing with that particular platform is that what do 229 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: you bring to the table that's different than the person 230 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: that was there before you, because again, you're not only one, 231 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: but when you step into that arena, what do you 232 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: want people to know about you? And how do you 233 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: want to make them feel so that when they leave there, 234 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: they're talking about you in a way that you wanted 235 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: them to talk about you. That's the engagement. So it 236 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: depends on if it's an individual, if it's a company. 237 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: I have a different company right now that I'm working with, 238 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: and I do all of their brand strategy for their 239 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: events because while they spend a lot of money, people 240 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know them because they're marketing, not in not branding, 241 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: because they don't create the engagement. So what I'm doing 242 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: for them is helping them strategize why are we doing 243 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: this event? What's the return on the investment on this event? 244 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: And what do you want people to feel when they 245 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: come to this event. Okay, we listen to she to 246 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: coach the CEO of Be Your Brand B y O B. 247 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more money making conversations. Don't go nowhere. 248 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna find out about her webinars and also more 249 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: information on how you can be successful in the world 250 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: of marketing and branding. She's especial. It's just every time 251 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: on the show. So you know I'm bringing it back 252 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: and having full or five times on the show. Be 253 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: right back with more money making conversations. Huh This Sean 254 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: McDonald for Shawn McDonald, back with more money making conversations. 255 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show and show it's created to get 256 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: provide you with information so you can win in your 257 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: personal life and then your business life. That's what money 258 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: making conversations on the mine on the show today right 259 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: now on the hole, I'm about to bring it back up. 260 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: Is the CEO or Be your Own Brand. That's be 261 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: why I'll be she look coates. She like, welcome back 262 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: to the show. Thank you so much. I was laughing 263 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: to myself because you can tell I'm passionate about branding 264 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: and marketing. I was like, let's just slow down because 265 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: see a lot of people, it's not so much you. 266 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: You know, you don't need to slow down people, it's 267 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: energy to get you there. You know. Sometimes you know, 268 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: I you know, I've changed my tone on the show. 269 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: I used to be moving to one hundred miles an 270 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: hour because I was afraid that people wouldn't get what 271 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,359 Speaker 1: I was trying to say or wouldn't understand my commitment, 272 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: and a lot of people confused, and I'm just like, 273 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, what you're saying is fantastic. Just trust yourself. 274 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm doing with myself. I'm starting to 275 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: trust myself more on the radio and when I talk 276 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: to people, because you know, you want people react to 277 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: you when you speak, and then some people just stat 278 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: you and you're like, you know, okay, did you hear 279 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: what I just said? You know, if you go around 280 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: the corner, there's an opportunity and a lot of people 281 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: just will slowly walk around the corner because they don't 282 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: question you. And so when I hear that passion in 283 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: your voice, it's it's just you're just letting everybody know 284 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: there's opportunity over them their heels. Yes it is, Yes 285 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: it is, and that you can do anything when you 286 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: understand how powerful you are what you bring to the table. 287 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know my journey. I was 288 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: an executive in the music business for years, you know, 289 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: got to the level of CMO, and I chose to quit. 290 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: Now I will say that the days I'm like, what 291 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: did you do? When you know that I didn't brand 292 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: myself and didn't put my blindness so to speak, on 293 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: being an industry executive, then I realized I can do 294 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: this for myself. I can do this with others. If 295 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: I was able to brand celebrities, I can definitely brand individuals. 296 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: I can go into corporations because who I am is 297 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: who I am. It wasn't based on what I was doing. Now, 298 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: with that being said, these webinars that you do which 299 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: allows people to communicate with you, please explain why you 300 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: started them, how one can be involved with him? And 301 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: it's your floor because he the first break was kind 302 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: of like my break, you know, I ain't have it 303 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: was I asked, as you not one question that you 304 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: sent me because all by rash because you know, you 305 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: know I know that you know what we can see. 306 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: I have a different insight on your on what people 307 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: want to say and here, and you have a talent. 308 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: That's sometimes I want to dig a little deeper. Now, 309 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: this break is still equally important because you know it's 310 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: about why is personal branding important? Which leads to your webinars? Correct, yes, yes, 311 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: And I'm just starting the webinars for individuals. I do 312 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: webinars for corporate America because a lot of the time 313 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: they have e learning. A lot of corporations have um 314 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: universities and they allow their employees to be able to 315 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: do learning and training on their own. But my thought was, 316 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: how does the average person When I say average, don't 317 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: take that as less than but the regular person, entrepreneur, 318 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: the person who's trying to pick college classes, how do 319 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: they understand their uniqueness? How does an entrepreneur who's launching 320 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: a business, but there's twenty businesses like there's find what 321 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: makes them unique? So that's how I started during the 322 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: individual webinars, and so we are launching one that's the 323 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: generic one. When I said meaning that you can no 324 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: matter if you're an entrepreneur or a college student, a 325 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: customer service rev work at a company, you will walk 326 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: away with an understanding of your uniqueness and the power 327 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: it takes to be a brand. And that's called everybody's 328 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: a brand. And for Ard Sean McDonald, because your audience 329 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: and you have been so good to me, and this 330 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: is my third time, then we are going to do it. 331 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: If you sign up today or before you get it 332 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: out a discount. Uh So, if you go to the 333 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: webinar now and my website right now, which is b 334 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: y O B unlimited dot com b y O B 335 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: unlimited dot com, you'll see a button up there for 336 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: a webinar. But the webinar is really to get you 337 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: to understand how to speak volumes without saying a word. 338 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: Now here's we really do. Here's there's the important that 339 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: I need a banner from you because now Money Making 340 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: Conversation has his own Facebook page. We have twenty six 341 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: thousand followers on our Facebook page we have and we 342 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: have a Twitter account. So please send me your banner 343 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: and I will post it today. Dale Henderson, he's the 344 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: exact on the hounds the social media on the Money 345 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: Making Conversation page and so please send us today because 346 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: I know that seeing it here is only one spot 347 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: to get there. You have to have several locations where 348 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: you need to communicate the value of what you're trying 349 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: to bring to the table. And that's all. I'm just 350 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: telling people that this platform was created for you. If 351 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: platform was created to be able to give you an 352 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to market and to brand your vision. So she 353 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: has an idea that she's created. I'm just letting you 354 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: know is that this is what people The major mistake 355 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: that people make. There are certain platforms that you can 356 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: go to because they have millions of people streaming and 357 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: all these things. That is not this platform right now. 358 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: I want to get to that platform now. So that 359 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: means that when she says it here, I gotta put 360 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: it elsewhere, several different locations so I can start catching 361 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: eyeballs to generate the traffic that she wants. She's promoting 362 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: it on my show, but she's also prominent promoting other avenues. 363 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: And that's why it's important that I say that to anybody, 364 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: because see what happens there. People everybody used the word 365 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: they want a viral video. You know, that's the big 366 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: that's the big craze. Now, that's why you see people 367 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: jumping into baseball games and running around the field because 368 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: they want that video, and they're gonna take that video 369 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: and post it on their personal social media so they 370 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: can go viral. Or you see, people'll be stopping traffic 371 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: and playing ping pong right at the red light. They're 372 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: trying to create viral videos. I don't know what that 373 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: means because of the fact that the traction you're trying 374 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: to create other than you just being stupid for that moment. 375 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: What we're trying to do over here is a professional 376 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: platform where you can gain information and exposure. And that's 377 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: all she's trying to do with these webinars that are 378 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: one on one in the sense that they're personal and 379 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: not corporate. Is that correct? Exactly, the one on one 380 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: webinar so that you can get personalized information and walk away. 381 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: My thing is, I don't want to hear something and 382 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: still don't know what to do after I heard it. 383 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 1: I promise you, when you hear this, you will have 384 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: immediately learn something to impact your life. Right then you're 385 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna be able to go, Okay, I get 386 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: it now. Right after that call, I can do X, 387 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: Y and Z in my business and my career and 388 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: my personal life. That's going to change my uniqueness and 389 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: helped me understand my competitive edge. And the other thing 390 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: that I'd like to say about conversations like this is 391 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: that I don't understand why people don't jump on the 392 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: phone because you're getting free information. Like, if somebody asked 393 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: me something right now, I'm gonna share that with them. 394 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: If they asked with you, you're gonna share it with 395 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: You can't pay me to do this, and I can't 396 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: do this for free anywhere else. So if you're listening, 397 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand why you're not asking questions. You know, 398 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: I do know that it takes a many for you 399 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: to grasp your thoughts. But if I'm an entrepreneur, if 400 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm somebody trying to find out what's my competitive edge, 401 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: if I'm a college student and I'm not sure exactly 402 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: what lane I should go in on how to project myself, 403 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: I would be on the phone at money making conversations. Well, 404 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: thank you for that. That marketing because when they come 405 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: over to me, guess what, I'm gonna start branding my 406 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: behind off, because that's what this is all about. And 407 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: I really you know the thing about it, when you 408 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: try to create change because it was really interesting. You 409 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, you know, I have many 410 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: shades of my life. You know, my degree is in mathematics. 411 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: At work for I bem and left. I been to 412 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: be a stand up comic. Then I became a touring comedian, 413 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: very successful to the Death Comedy Jam, opened to Comedy Club, 414 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: started writing television, writing television shows. Eventually managed Steve Harvey 415 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: and that took me to a whole different stratosphere. And 416 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: like when you are CMO, when I made the decision 417 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: and to to start building my brand, that's a difficult 418 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: transition because you have to figure out who you are. 419 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: That's really the key element. Because I spent sixteen years 420 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: managing Steve and building his brand to a tremendous global perspective. 421 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: But along the way, who was Rashan McDonald. And so 422 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: this whole year I spent time trying to figure out 423 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: who ra Sean McDonald's so I can convey the message 424 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: and so I can be consistent. And that's what this 425 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: show is all about. That's why I bring you on 426 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: the show, because you truly understand who you are. Rashan McDonald, 427 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: after said, is still seeking that journey and that journey 428 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: is the powerful journey because along the way, I'm gonna 429 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: give you information. I'm gonna give you opportunity to speak 430 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: to people that you will normally speak to for free, 431 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: like you're speaking to her right now for free. That's 432 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: all she's saying. If you, if you see her in 433 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: a room, she's been paid to do that. And that's why, 434 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: and that's the blessing of this opportunity. When I give 435 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: out the number to call money making conversation. I remember 436 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: this guy called one time. It was so funny and 437 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: he said, he said, are you for real? I said, 438 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: he said, are you for real? I said, what do 439 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: you mean? He said, I can't believe you on the 440 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: radio talking like this. He said, you like the Black 441 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: Moses because you're leading us in the direction nobody has 442 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: ever led us before. And that's basically what you're saying 443 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: right now. Rashan McDonald is doing a unique opportunity. And 444 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: if you don't take advantage of the unique opportunity, somebody 445 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: else gonna charge you. And I can assure you they 446 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: will not get the information that I'm giving to your 447 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: every money on money making conversations and not happen. And 448 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: it's it's so funny that you would have been given 449 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: that title as or that batter of Moses when I 450 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: was in the music But it's a couple of the 451 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: people who used to work with me started calling me 452 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: Mama Moses, and I really, you know, like she'll every 453 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: time we turn around, you're trying to take the people 454 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: over to the other side. You're trying to help the 455 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: artists get over here. You're trying to help your staff 456 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: get more money. And I say that to say because 457 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: when that's really who you are, even though you might 458 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: fight that, sometimes it's who you are. You if you 459 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: like helping people, and I and like you when you 460 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: were doing the thing with Steed, it was helping somebody 461 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: you felt good and helping somebody get to the platform. 462 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: When I was in the industry, all I looked at 463 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: it as I'm helping an artist attain their dreams. I'm 464 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: helping some young person who works on my team attain 465 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: what they want to do. So when I do this, 466 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: it's really just an extension of who I am. That's 467 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When you understand who you are and 468 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: why you do it, some days I don't even like it. 469 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: Something's gonna be mad. I'm like, why do I even 470 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: want to help somebody? Why? It's because it's who I am. 471 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: Two things, two things, where we get out of here now? 472 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: I need that website one more time, Yes, sir, let's 473 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: one more time. Www. Dot B y O B. That 474 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: doesn't stand for britting your own bulls, that's be your 475 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: own brand. I'm indited dot com B y o B 476 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: unlimited dot com. You can go to that page. I'd 477 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: love to get some feedback if you if even if 478 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: you don't sign up for the webinar, you can contact me. 479 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: There's a contact page. There's a webinar sign up seed. 480 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: But again it's B y O B unlimited dot com 481 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: and all of my social media icons are on there. 482 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: So I would love for people to just join me 483 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: on my Instagram or on my Facebook page. If you 484 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: get a minute, okay, other things today? Will I be? 485 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: Will I get a banner from you? Oh? You don't 486 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: have it before you get up there. That's all I'm saying, 487 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, um. The whole purpose of money making 488 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: conversation is spread the word of opportunity through entrepreneurship, and 489 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: entrepreneurship doesn't mean business. It means life. It means taking 490 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: your brand and marking it to another level so everybody 491 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: is aware of who you are when you walk in 492 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: the room. Sheila Coach as usual, you've been fantastic. Uh, congratulations, 493 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: congratulations again when I'm proudly will be posting today on 494 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: money Making Conversations on our Facebook page. Like I said, well, 495 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: with twenty six thousand followers on money Making Conversations, let's 496 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: keep making it happen, ladies and gentlemen. And we also 497 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: have a Twitter account with over five thousand followers, so 498 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: we're building this brand together. Coming up next, the executive 499 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: producer of Black Love, Cody Oliver. Welcome back to Money 500 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: Making Conversation. This is your host, Rashan McDonald. Money Making 501 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: Conversations a show that provides you with career information on 502 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: how you can be successful in your business and in 503 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: your personal life. If you want to talk to us today, 504 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: please call eight three two two three zero five five 505 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: nine two. That's eight three two three zero five five 506 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: nine two. My next guest is a graduate, a prod 507 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: graduate of Howard University. After she held many jobs, and 508 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: one of them was working in feature film development at 509 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: Fox Searchlight Pictures. She is now the executive producer of 510 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: the highest successful documentary on own network. That's Oprah's network. 511 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: It's called Black Love. Please work on the money making conversations, Cody, 512 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: Elaine Oliver, how are you doing? I'm great? What it was? 513 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: It was that in? It was that intro? Big enough 514 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: for you? Because you know you're rising star. You're rising star. 515 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I keep you rising, keep your rising. 516 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and you got it. I am definitely 517 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: a very proud graduate of Howard University. I know, it's 518 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: it's interesting. There's so many people just getting you know, 519 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: there's so many people in the industry. You know, I've 520 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: been in the industry with twenty years in l A 521 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: and that come out of that Howard University camp. What's 522 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: what's going on there? Do they focus on entertainment? What 523 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about that that you went 524 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: to Howard and what what what? How it did help 525 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: you be successful to this point in your life from 526 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: Howard University. So to be perfectly on a Howard University 527 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: was home to me. I mean, I'm from Fort Worth, Texas, 528 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: but my whole family went to Howard and so growing 529 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: up I've spent a lot of time in dc US 530 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: in a lot of time at Howard. I certainly had 531 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: a choice because my sister went to Hampton, Like, it 532 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh, you have to go to Howard. But 533 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: for me, it just always felt like home. So I 534 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: would say that was a big part of why I 535 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: went there, in addition to the fact that I had 536 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: gone to predominantly white schools my whole life. So for me, 537 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: it was like I need this, I need to be 538 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: with black people. That was important to me UM at 539 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: that time in my life. And and then I would 540 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: say as far as successful people coming from Howard, besides 541 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: Howard choosing the best in the bradest, of course, I 542 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: would say that Howard really builds us up to be 543 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: strong individuals, and specifically strong Black people, to be confident 544 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: in what we're doing. And so when you go into 545 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: whatever profession that is, whether that's entertainment or teaching or business. UM, 546 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: there's just a mindset of being really comfortable with who 547 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: you are and and what's important to you, what messages 548 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: are important to you, and you bring that into whatever 549 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: you're doing. That's awesome. That's awesome. Before we're going to 550 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: further you know, I got into the Howard conversation because 551 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: on my show, I'll just become engaged with Maya interviews 552 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: real quick. Please explain everybody exactly what the documentary of 553 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: Black Love is and then we're gonna go in more details. 554 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely so. Black Love is a four part docuseries that 555 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: aired on own UM throughout September. UM. They're still on 556 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: the app and the website if you want to catch it. UM. 557 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: And Black Love was for my husband and I. We 558 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: did it together. UM. It was interviewing black couples on 559 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: what it takes to make a marriage work for the 560 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: wrong haul. UM. There's no secret. We knew that, we UM, 561 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: but we wanted to have that conversation number one because 562 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: we needed it. I grew up the child of divorce 563 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: parents talking. You grew up without his parents being married, 564 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: and so we didn't see those relationships in our household. 565 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,479 Speaker 1: Here we are too married people trying to figure out 566 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: what that means, like what does that look like every day? 567 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: And in addition to that, UM, I think a lot 568 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: of us are going up that way for various reasons. 569 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: You know, the data says that over seventy black children 570 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: are growing up the single parent homes. And that doesn't 571 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: necessarily mean they don't know them mother and their father, 572 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: just means they're not married, they're not in the same household. 573 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: And so when you set out and you try to 574 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: build a life with somebody and you don't really know 575 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: how to do that, um, it's really hard. It's already 576 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: hard to be married. But take the fact that there's 577 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: no rule book, there's no use, no no plan, no 578 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: no mentors. Right, and plus you had no you had 579 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: no example of that, That's what you're saying. You and 580 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: your husband had no example of this looking at uh, 581 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, two parent household because it never existed for you, right, 582 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: And so we knew that we weren't alone. We knew 583 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: that more people would want to hear that conversation. And also, 584 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: no matter what stage of the relationship you're in, I 585 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: think it's as whether you're single as they say single 586 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: as a dollar bill, or whether you're engaged or wherever 587 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: you are twenty years in. It helps to see other 588 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: people going through things and going, oh, okay, I could 589 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: deal with that, or hey, that's like my personality. I 590 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: can see you know how I can be difficult that time, 591 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,239 Speaker 1: And so our hope was that each of us as 592 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: black people, can see ourselves in it. Okay, let's let's 593 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: go to the business side of this conversation because a 594 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: lot of people got a good idea. This is a 595 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: good idea, correct, Cody, that's a good idea. You said 596 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: around and you you told other people about this good idea, right, 597 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: and they kind of looked at you like you was crazy. Right. Yeah, 598 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. So how does a 599 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: good idea that some people have told you, yeah, I 600 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: get back with you, but you weren't waiting on. You 601 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: got tired of waiting on to get back with you 602 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: for sure? How did you take it to the next stage? 603 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: Because that's what people want to hear. This is this, 604 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: this is this Hollywood story that nobody they just see 605 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: the final results and they also don't know that sometimes 606 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: and take years to get it from the idea to 607 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: this point. Correct, Yes, it does. So I would say 608 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: that the first thing is just keep moving, don't wait 609 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: on anybody. So there's that, and that's no matter what 610 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: it is you're doing TV or building a business or 611 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: whatever it is. Um And I would say that was 612 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: hard for me. I just want to be completely transparent. 613 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: That was hard for me, you know, because you don't 614 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: make money from an idea. You don't make money building 615 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: an idea. You don't make money until sometimes ever, but 616 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't. It doesn't turn results until much 617 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: later down the line. So yeah, I'm working at box 618 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: search side, I'm working at other places. I have income. 619 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily want to stop what I'm doing to 620 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: build this thing that won't yield results for a while. 621 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: Um So it did take a push, um definitely from 622 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: my husband when we met, to to really move things along, 623 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: because this is an idea I had for a long time. 624 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: So it's idea you have for a long time. How 625 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: did it come about? Yeah, so around two thousand seven, 626 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: the media was portraying this black marriage crisis. Holo holo, Holo, 627 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: holo hold on, she said, two thousand and seven Ladies 628 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: and Gentleman. It aired on on Network in September. Okay, 629 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: just let you guys know that a lot of people 630 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: think these journeys happen overnight. They don't understand that there's 631 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: a lot of tears, there's a lot of frustrations, a 632 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: lot of setback, and sometimes when you kick off the 633 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: vision it's just an idea that you pitching. Continue with 634 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: your story. That happened two thousand and seven, ten years 635 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: Yes it did. That's when it came to me and 636 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: I um with with the media portraying this black marriage crisis. 637 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: It felt very as a single woman, it felt like 638 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: a dire situation. It felt like the odd word getst us. 639 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: The divorce rate is high. The media is telling me 640 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: Black people can't stay married being married, They're getting married 641 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,959 Speaker 1: later in life. It's at all and other ethnicities. And 642 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: right after that, the Obamas were less in the office, 643 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: and everyone's going, oh, that's love, this is beautiful. They're amazing. 644 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: They're so connected and perfect for each other. And we're 645 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: looking at these people like and they're amazing. But we 646 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: need more than just that one example. So I knew 647 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: at that time I wanted to create a place where 648 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: black love stories live. And the first thing that I 649 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: did then was I went um because remember, my parents 650 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: were divorced. I mean most of them, but that doesn't 651 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: automatically mean this, but most of their friends were divorced. Like, 652 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: I didn't really have examples to go to and say, 653 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: can I tell your story? So I had to find 654 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: couples that would share their stories with me. And so 655 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: I went on a little trip um back then to 656 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: collect some stories, talk to people, see what people would 657 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: share with me. Um. And at that time, my idea 658 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: was a coffee table book. It wasn't even a documentary. Um. 659 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: So it had to evolve. And the evolution like, right now, 660 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: the temple has to be married at least ten years. Correct, Yes, 661 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: that was always the case. There was always together. They 662 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: had to be together at least ten years because you 663 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: wanted them to have experiences to draw on. They didn't 664 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: have to be married that long, but they had to 665 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: be together at least that amount of time. So we're 666 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: really talking about what they've gone through to get where 667 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: they are. So so the so, the the news story, 668 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: then the Obama election, and you have this perfect African 669 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: American couple sitting in the White House that inspired you 670 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: to say, you know something, this story is not is normal, 671 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: and we should make it normal, should not make it unique. 672 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: And when you go when you went out there, now 673 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: now now we're now we're moving, let me I might 674 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: ask you this. Of course you do you have an 675 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: agent right now? I don't, but my husband does. And 676 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 1: full disclosure. So that was very helpful, very helpful because 677 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: of because you know, that really helps. And let's asking people, 678 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm just using your platform because hopefully you come on 679 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: my show many many times, because I want to be 680 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: able to let your story be told in your brain. 681 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: And you're gonna have other great projects because guess what 682 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: this project was is a hit. If you if you 683 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: google this is black Love, it's gonna say hit, it's 684 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: gonna say high ratings on their own network. So she 685 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: may have faux but foulk more comment somewhere else she 686 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: might do before, but more more love is coming to 687 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: her from a financial definitely. And that's and a lot 688 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: of times a lot of people think they need an agent. 689 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: It's really balls down to who you know in her situation, 690 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: I say something to. So we actually put the whole 691 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: thing together. We did all of the work without the agency, 692 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 1: so the agency came into play when it was time 693 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: to pitch, and really not even pitch. We actually shot 694 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: and edited the first episode. We shot all the interviews, 695 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: and we edited the full first episode, and then we 696 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: did the treatment for the rest so any network that 697 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: was looking at that knew exactly what it was. We 698 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: had put it together. There was really no questions. You 699 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. It was very thorough. UM. So 700 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: the agency came into play when it was like, Hey, 701 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: this is what we have. Can y'all open the doors. 702 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: Can y'all fitness to your network um, your various networks, um, 703 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: and we'll see who wants it. So I think that's 704 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: really important for your audience because, like I said, just 705 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: do the work. Do the work, make it thorough. That 706 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: leaves no questions unanswered before they're even asked. You have 707 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: to think of what those questions are going to be, 708 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: and you answer them and your proposal or whatever it 709 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: is for your business, and then let people say, yeah, 710 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: your name, I love it. You said a lot of things. Proposal, 711 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: you said, business plan, even creatively, even in the film 712 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 1: and TV business, there has to be a plan. And 713 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: I love the fact that you understand that and you're 714 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: willing to share that with my listeners and and the 715 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: people who watch on my Facebook page, and also that 716 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: it replays on our Heart Radio podcasts under Business Finance. 717 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: And the great thing about this is that I, if 718 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: you don't mind, I want to bring you back into 719 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: the next break so we can talk I'm on the 720 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: phone with Cody Oliver. She's the executive producer of the 721 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: hit TV show on the All On network. I'm gonna 722 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: keep saying it for you, Cody, the hit Black Love. 723 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: She'd be right back if you want to call a 724 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: three two five, five nine two. We're gonna find out 725 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: more about what type of couples is she looking for? 726 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: Is she focused on celebrities? Okay? What makes all these 727 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: stories unique? Why would I get tired looking at Black Love? 728 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: She's gonna tell us why you won't get tired and 729 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: why Black Love will run forever because Cody Black is 730 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: making money cool. Welcome back to Money Making Conversations. This 731 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: is Rashan McDonald's the host of Money Making Conversations. It's 732 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: a show that provides you with information on how you 733 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: can win in your business and personal life. On the show. 734 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: On the phone right now, I have the executive producer. 735 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: I want to see director to director to can I 736 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: at that time look to you. Cody. She's executive producer 737 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: and director of the hit TV show on On called 738 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: Black Love. Teen years ago. She came up with this 739 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: idea in two thousand and seven and it aired on 740 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: on in the month of septem It was four episodes. 741 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: It's called a documentary. It's about black love from from 742 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: just everyday perspective. But she wants to make sure that 743 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: everybody understands not just it's not it's that they that 744 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 1: the Obama couple that was out there was night unique. 745 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people dealing with these same 746 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: issues and surviving and the relationship had to be together 747 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: for at least ten years. They have to be married 748 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: for ten years, but they had to be together for 749 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: at least ten years. So with that being said, what 750 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: is the moving forward? You have celebrities like you know, 751 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: Grant into Maya, And was that the goal to go 752 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: with celebrities just to get on TV or what's the 753 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: future of black love? Sure? So, just like the four 754 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: episodes that you saw, we're going to continue combining you know, 755 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: celebrities and everyday people from all over the country. Um. 756 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: And it was important for a couple of reasons. I 757 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: would say the most important reason is that seeing these 758 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: people who have a lot of money and have a 759 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: lot of success and hearing them talk about their relationships, 760 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: hearing them talk about how they met and realize same 761 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 1: that we're all the same it was really important for 762 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 1: they just got too did you got to toothpaste instead 763 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: of just one? They say, got a problem? A problem? Yeah, exactly. Um. 764 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: And and also that you know, for business, for television business, 765 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: you have to have celebrities. So at the end of 766 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: the day, it was both an important part of our 767 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 1: show and the content of our show, but it was 768 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: a necessary part of the business because that's what this 769 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: show is about. I wanted to be clear about that. Okay, 770 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 1: let's talk about this now. How is you because I'm 771 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: gonna just talk real now. How do you know these 772 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: famous people? Cody? You know what I'm saying. How do 773 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: you get access to famous people? Cody? Yeah. So I'll 774 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: say two things. Everybody, everyone that you saw in season one, 775 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: because you know, we're working on season two. But everyone 776 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: you saw, they did those interviews without own nobody knew. 777 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: We didn't know, we didn't know that this is This 778 00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: is hustle magnificent. Correct. I will talk about the hustle, 779 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: But I do want to give them all credit for 780 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: doing this for us. They all felt like black people, 781 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: we needed to see it. So they said, cool, I'll 782 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: sit down, I'll share my story. Um. So there's that 783 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: how did so we didn't know all of them. Um, 784 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: we I was. I'm trying to think that. We moved 785 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: to you and Corey. We've known them for a long 786 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: time after my husband and I knew them individually before 787 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: we got married. So that was just an easy ask. 788 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: They said yes, and we had a great time. First 789 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: of all, let me just tell you those those two 790 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: people out there are amazing. They are the most nice. 791 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: You almost like wanting, you know, they'd such a good couple, 792 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: You almost wanting like a punch them. You know, they 793 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 1: look good and then they love each other for real. 794 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: You almost like they's successful. You know. She she sings 795 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: like she talked, you know, she just she just thought 796 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: she can sing about Syria. You go, is that a 797 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: hit song she's singing over there? It's just cheerio. She 798 00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: served it to the kids. That that that right there, 799 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: you started out with the with the perfect couple of niceness. 800 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: They're pretty great. Absolutely. And and so here's another one. 801 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: So Viola and Julius. My husband met them in a 802 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: parking garage. Like we did not know them. He met 803 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: them in a parking garage, came up to them and 804 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, started talking. They were very polite. Obviously, Julius 805 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: is a Texan, so we have that work in our 806 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: favorite um and a real and a real and a 807 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,479 Speaker 1: real person too. He is, he is and they both 808 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: are a long conversation with Julius and uh, he's going 809 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: to change the world him and his wife in the 810 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: productive business. Yeah, absolutely, and so they were. They exchange 811 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: contact information long before the Black Love conversation happened. And 812 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: then when when it came up, my husband reached out 813 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: and it still took months to schedule. But the point 814 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 1: is he reached out once we had something to say. 815 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't hey, I met you in a garage. No, 816 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: he waited, you know, a year from them to say, hey, 817 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 1: let's would you guys want to do this? And they 818 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: said yes right away. Um, and then it was literally 819 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: like friends of friends after that, I mean Erica and 820 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: Warren Campbell. Um. We had a friend introduced us to them. Um. 821 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: Chris Spencerved, the comedian and creator of Real Husbands of Hollywood. 822 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: He and his wife Vanessa friended them. Yeah, oh yeah, 823 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: he's wonderful. They're both grade um, and so it was 824 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: friends of friends. You know, we are in l A, 825 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: we are in Hollywood. My husband produced The Perfect Guy 826 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with Sinalethan Morri's Chestnut Michael Ewe. 827 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: So there are relationships that we do have you out 828 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 1: the big names. Now, that's all right, but you're gonna 829 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: have big names to get names at it. That's how 830 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: you got Megan Good correct. Uh. Let me think, how 831 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: did we get Magame? Um? I think so. I think 832 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 1: the the studio relationship. No, it wasn't through the studies. 833 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: He knew her. I think that they she had auditioned 834 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: for something your Oh, that's right. What it was a 835 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: film that we did. She had auditioned for it in 836 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: the timing didn't out, but they stayed in touch. So yes, 837 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: they were quick to jump on that as well. That's awesome. 838 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: So tell us about the future because I'm gona asking 839 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: you to tell me upcoming relationships that you have. You 840 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: can't tell me those, I can't. I mean only the 841 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: press release. So um, I can drop names, drop names 842 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: we have granted to me a coming up. We have 843 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: Tina Knowles and Richard Lawson. Um, we have. I know 844 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: they're they're amazing and that that couple was really important 845 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: to me because when I started this project It was 846 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: somewhat about me and my friends and what we see, 847 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,439 Speaker 1: but it was also my mom. You know, my parents 848 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: were divorced. My mom had not has not remarried, and 849 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: I wanted her to see. When Tena Knowles remarried at sixty, 850 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 1: I was like, I have to interview them because I need. 851 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: I want my mother and other women and men, you know, 852 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: and they're trying to get on their second marriage, you know, 853 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: trying to bounce back from divorce. I want them to 854 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,800 Speaker 1: feel that same hope and exc A lot of people 855 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 1: just give up at a third day. You know. That's 856 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: important because I will tell, you know, people my age, 857 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: I look at them and go, what age are you me? 858 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: And you say, mate, no, no, no, no, you really 859 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: need to go talk to somebody because you're unhealthy. You 860 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 1: really unhealthy. And I think that I would tell people, 861 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: and some people run away from getting old. I don't 862 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,240 Speaker 1: because I feel you have to accomplish things to get old. 863 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: And and this project that you have, I'm glad you're 864 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: including people from various age groups because it's important absolutely, 865 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: and so obviously for those we make exceptions to the 866 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: ten years because people on their second marriage observation like 867 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: We've interviewed over eighty couples just to be there, and 868 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: some of them are in their twenties and some of 869 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: them are in their eighties and everything in between. And 870 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: people on their second marriage seem to have a lot 871 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: of perspective, um and and and so once you're there, 872 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: you know what you're doing, you know what you're getting 873 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: yourself into. So our couples that are on their second marriage, 874 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: I think some of them have been married, you know, 875 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: four years of them been married, you know, ten or twenties. 876 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: But um, we had we made some exceptions obviously for 877 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 1: people like Richard. Well. The thing about it is that 878 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 1: I think about it because you get into the blended 879 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: family conversation when you start talking about you know, remarriages 880 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: and things like that, because something that was really important 881 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: to me, and that's really really, really really important things 882 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: like that. So so you have this fantastic project, you 883 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: obviously have a fantastic husband. That means that your future 884 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 1: in this business is Black Love just one of the projects. 885 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: What's the next project that you have on the horizon, 886 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: or you just focused on Black Love right now? Um, 887 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: I am extremely focused on Black Love in part because 888 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: as a director, it takes every day of me, you know, 889 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: especially with editing, where editing Season two every single day. 890 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: We do have a few other projects in the pipeline. 891 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: Some of them could gather, some of them not together. Absolutely, Um, 892 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: so we are. I'm trying to figure out what I 893 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: can say. Don't don't, don't pressure yourself. The beauty I 894 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: like about it is that there are so many powerful, 895 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, husband and wife African American production teams in Hollywood. 896 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 1: That's that's a tremendous growing trend. Would you agree, Yeah, absolutely, 897 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: And we talked to some of those couples. Hopefully will 898 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: get them to sit down. DeAndre Whitfield and Sally m Richardson, 899 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, they both work on Clean Sugar and she's 900 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: directing a lot. Hopefully we'll get them to sit down there. 901 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: They've said, yes, it's just all scheduling, you know. So 902 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: so to your point earlier, this can go on for 903 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: a long time. And I've read a lot of amazing 904 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: couples all over the country. Your idea was ten years ago. 905 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: Now it's like it's on a launching pad for tremendous success. 906 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 1: I love the fact you're the HPC person because of 907 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: the fact that your whole family supported that brand and 908 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 1: and show evidence that if you send your child to 909 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: that type of educational facility, it does not diminish your 910 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: opportunities in life. And that's what a lot of people 911 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: will say, you go there, nobody's gonna hire you, or 912 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 1: they might not say it that way, but the general 913 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: thought is you go to a wide institution of higher 914 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: learning that you will get more opportunity than going to 915 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: an hbc U school of educational opportunity. You're a prime 916 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: example that that's a lie and you should continue to 917 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 1: build your brand. In closing, I want to say this, please, 918 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm have my PR firm send me some links so 919 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,879 Speaker 1: I can drive people on my Money Making Conversation Facebook page. 920 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: We have with twenty six thousand followers on that along 921 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: and we're gonta post it today and let people know 922 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: about your your your platform and when you and when 923 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: the when the new series premieres. Please lets me let 924 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: me know I bring you back on the show. If 925 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 1: you don't have time, to send us a link and 926 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: we'll promote. This is about supporting. It's apported to people 927 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: like you who have a brand that started from scratch 928 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: and and and the end this positaneous from now. You know, 929 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: we may be sitting on there and we might be 930 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 1: the next Oprah, young lady, and I wish you all 931 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 1: the luck of the world with your fantastic husband and 932 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 1: do it together. Okay, thank you, thank you for I 933 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 1: appreciate This has been Cody Oliver. She is the director 934 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: and executive producer of Black Love to Hit TV series 935 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: on on and she just told you it's been picked 936 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: up for more shows. So keep listening. And if you 937 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: go to money Making Conversation Facebook page today, we'll have 938 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: links so you can see the shows and some promos 939 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 1: and highlights and gain and become a fan of Cody Ollod. 940 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: She's the next big star, y'all. I'll be back with 941 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:26,839 Speaker 1: more information. Ra Sean McDonald Money Making Conversation. Life is good. Hi. 942 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: This is ra Sean McDonald. Welcome to Money Making Conversation. 943 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm your host. Moneymaking Conversation is a show. It provides 944 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: you with information on how to be successful in your 945 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: life and in your business. If you want to talk 946 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: to us, the numbers always available A three, two, zero, five, 947 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: five nine two. My next guest, she's on the line. 948 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: I like people will call all time because that means 949 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: they want to talk to me. My next guest is 950 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: chief of staff at War, which is the Media LLC company, 951 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 1: and she's awfull called a social media guru, is the 952 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: co founder hash, a social work and social media training 953 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: platform for indie artists, managers, and industry professionals. Please welcome 954 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: to money making Conversations. So, Tori Ananda, how you doing? 955 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: That's in your name correctly? You did? He? I gotta 956 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 1: get it right because my name was Sean McDonald and 957 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: so you know, people call the show that's here Russian, 958 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 1: and I gotta I kinda gotta let it slide sometimes 959 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,479 Speaker 1: because I didn't want to just blow them out the water, 960 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: go hey, my name is Sean, you know. But I 961 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 1: am respectful because I would tell people your job in 962 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: life is to get people to say your name right, 963 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: and they said right. That means your brand and your 964 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 1: marketing is working. So your social media guru, why do 965 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: they give you that title? Or who gave you that title? 966 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: Because that's that's a powerful time. That's a lot of 967 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: responsibility to come with a title like that. So Tori, 968 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: it is. And I've been called that many times the clients, 969 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: friends and people online, and I guess it's number one. 970 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: I find it to be so interesting the way social 971 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 1: media marketing has taken the psychological effects of social media. 972 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: And you know, for the past five or six years, 973 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: I've just made it my business to understand how we 974 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: interact online through our personal lives and our professional lives. 975 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 1: And I guess that is what has resulted in me 976 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: being a gurgle as they say, your guru because guess what, 977 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: like you said, you didn't just jump into it, because 978 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 1: a lot of people have just jumped into it, and 979 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: then they think just posting is the just the key, 980 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: and they have all the information of what you're supposed 981 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 1: to do, but don't have the resume of what you 982 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: should do. And you have the resume of what you 983 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: should do because you have respected people who have called 984 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:55,240 Speaker 1: on your celebrities, business individuals who called on your services. Correct, 985 00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: that's right, Ericabad, You just on social media. I'm sorry, Eric, 986 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 1: about to do is one of your clients? Correct, We're 987 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 1: not on social media. I actually started with her um 988 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: and at the Black Forest Theater. Now, let me ask 989 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: you this about your your whole career. When you when 990 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: we start talking about being a guru, talking about you know, 991 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: branding yourself and making yourself. Uh, there's a there's a 992 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:31,720 Speaker 1: price line that you have to charge people for your services. Correct, Okay, 993 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: how did you How did you develop that? Because I 994 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: want people to understand that. You know, I'm gonna tell 995 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: you something about me. Um My wife always telling me 996 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,839 Speaker 1: you under you underpriss yourself. You should charge them more, 997 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 1: and I just tell them, look, I'm just trying to 998 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,280 Speaker 1: get the business right now, because once I get the business, 999 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 1: then I can have a resume. And when I have 1000 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: a resume, then I could charge people more. Is that 1001 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: the correst philosophy to have? I yes, that is the 1002 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,439 Speaker 1: way that it generally works in almost any business. As 1003 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: you're first starting out and you don't have as much 1004 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: of a clientele or experience, that may be valuable to 1005 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 1: somebody who's willing to pay for you. That doesn't mean 1006 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: that you're not an expert at it, an expert at it, 1007 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: but they want to see the experience and the proven work. 1008 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: So your first you know, times that you're charging for 1009 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: things have to to your experience, and as you grow 1010 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 1: in your fields, and as you become more experienced and 1011 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: have more of a resume, as you say, then your 1012 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 1: price can increase because your value increases. Not only are 1013 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: you doing the work, but your brand name is something 1014 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 1: somebody they want to be associated with. You know, I 1015 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,760 Speaker 1: have a lot of people that take pride in saying 1016 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 1: that they're one of my clients. Oh, I work with 1017 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 1: Satria SATORI does this for me only Satria handles. You know, 1018 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,719 Speaker 1: this part of my business. So that part of my business. 1019 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: So my name itself also has value for them, not 1020 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 1: just the service that I provide. So I'm able to 1021 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: charge according to the value. Okay, cool. Let me let 1022 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 1: me ask you this. Now, if somebody came to you, 1023 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 1: do you have a rate sheet or it's based on 1024 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 1: the conversation. It's based on the conversation, But there is 1025 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: a rate sheet that exists somewhere to start, because if 1026 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: you don't know where you're starting, you're going to the 1027 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 1: number one outbid yourself because you're charging too high and 1028 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: it doesn't match up with the industry prices that you're in, 1029 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: or you're going to underbaid yourself. So you do to 1030 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 1: have a price sheet for yourself. But I don't pass 1031 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 1: out price sheets to clients. We always have a conversation 1032 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: for us. I find out what their needs are and 1033 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 1: a lot of UM social media clients needs are very 1034 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: individuals depending on what their goals are. So once we 1035 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: determine the goals and you know, what is it that 1036 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: they're actually going to want for me and what can 1037 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,840 Speaker 1: I do for them, then we work on different prices 1038 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: depending on that. Okay, with that being saying, let me 1039 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: ask you this question about social media, and believe me, 1040 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 1: all the questions I'm asking is just to give people 1041 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 1: information so they can understand your brand and also hopefully 1042 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,800 Speaker 1: contact you and maybe get some additional customer because we 1043 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: all want more customers. That's the bottom line. We want 1044 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 1: to be busy, busy, busy, busy. Now the interesting what 1045 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: is the worst thing most that that I shouldn't say 1046 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,400 Speaker 1: the worst thing that what is the most um? Because people, 1047 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, they see these celebrities, you know, forty million, 1048 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 1: ten million, you know, you know all these numbers out there. 1049 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: Does that give people a false sense of how fast 1050 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: or how quickly they can grow in social media? Yeah? 1051 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: It does sometimes, So Number one, we want to compare ourselves. 1052 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 1: It was top of the line all of the time. 1053 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,319 Speaker 1: Whenever that isn't where you are. UM, one of my 1054 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: business Partners always says you have to shoot from where 1055 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: you stand. You're not gonna get forty million listeners when 1056 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 1: you have a clientel base of forty or reach of 1057 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: four hundred. You know, those are these are artists that 1058 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: have entire machines behind them, that have advertising dollars that 1059 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 1: the average entrepreneur or small business owner could never match. 1060 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 1: And um, a lot of the numbers are sometimes inflated 1061 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: as well, so you're a lot of people are comparing 1062 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: their real life numbers to inflated information as well. But 1063 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 1: the most important thing is if you're a business and 1064 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: you're trying to reach people on social media, you you 1065 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 1: want to reach people who are really going to be 1066 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 1: interested in your business. It's not so much about the 1067 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: number of people, but the quality of people that are responding. Engagement, 1068 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 1: that's the key, right, Engagement, the most important thing. Yeah, 1069 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 1: because that's that's that's the number one thing, is the 1070 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: engagement if you posted the picture. And that's why I 1071 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 1: was just talking about earlier when I was on the 1072 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,720 Speaker 1: phone with Chila Coach, we was just talking about marketing 1073 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 1: and branding. Is that a lot of people just got 1074 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: there doing silly stuff, posting videos. They getting engagement, but 1075 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with their brain and that's 1076 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 1: really really crazy. And I also bring up a point 1077 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 1: that I've told people about. You know, I've managed Steve 1078 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 1: Harvor for fifteen years, so I know that when you're 1079 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 1: in that talent pool is that people are like you. 1080 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: If you they like your jokes, they like you or 1081 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 1: follow you. If they like your song, they like you, 1082 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: follow you if they like your your movie you in 1083 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: or your television series. So that's know that that's that's 1084 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: very significant and understanding their popularity in the social media world. 1085 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 1: When you when you're an individual, that's when the whole 1086 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: who you are and who you're talking to comes into 1087 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: play and the engagement correct exactly right. You know, you 1088 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 1: want to have the people who are interested in what 1089 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 1: you're doing and possibly to turn into customers, clients, or 1090 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: an audience that matters. You can have a video that 1091 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 1: has a whole bunch of likes and whatever it was 1092 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: the feeling that the video gave them encourage them to 1093 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: like it. Like there's there's no returning investment. It doesn't 1094 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: really benefit you in any kind of way you want to. 1095 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: If you're if you're a hairstylist, for instance, and you're 1096 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: using social media to post some of your client results, 1097 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: you are more interested in people in your surrounding area 1098 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,919 Speaker 1: being engaged in your posts than just overall people being 1099 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 1: excited about what they see your Your goals would be 1100 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: specific to your market area. So you may have less 1101 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: um likes and views and you know somebody else, but 1102 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 1: if those people are in your area and could become 1103 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 1: potential clients, that's much more important. Cool. Now, my next 1104 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 1: question is do you said it earlier? A lot of people. 1105 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: You get a lot of your your your your business 1106 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: or some of your business from people word of mouth. 1107 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 1: You know, she's awesome. If you're trying to get into 1108 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 1: social media, somebody want to build your brain, she don't 1109 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 1: want to turn to. Do you market yourself? Do you 1110 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 1: go out and if you market yourself, what lanes do 1111 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 1: you use for market other than social media? Or is 1112 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: all social media? Not? Definitely, not at all. There is 1113 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 1: no campaign that is successful with media only ever, that's 1114 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: people have turned to that and that's a lazy marketing plan. 1115 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: You still have to repeat that one more time, that 1116 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 1: one more time. Now it's only doing social media. That's 1117 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: a lazy marketing plan. It takes much more than just 1118 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: social media. Why is it a lazy marketing plan because 1119 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 1: people are just posting and thinking that's enough. They're not 1120 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: actually trying to go out and still do physical marketing, 1121 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 1: guerilla marketing, appearances, you know, being present in places that 1122 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 1: your industry other professionals are. A marketing plan is a 1123 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: multi tiered process and social media marketing. Social media marketing 1124 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 1: is only one part of your overall marketing. And for 1125 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 1: myself that's the truth to social media marketing is a 1126 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: large part of what I do. But in addition, I panels, 1127 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,959 Speaker 1: I go to events and many other people. I passed 1128 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 1: out my business card, I get email addresses. I would 1129 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 1: see my email list is my most important marketing from 1130 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: myself and my business. That's that's so so a lot 1131 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 1: of people they just jump on it because it's free. 1132 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 1: In a sense, it is free, but you know you 1133 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: can't boost and give your further reach. But sometimes when 1134 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: you're reaching, you don't know who you're reaching. So that 1135 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 1: that five or ten or fifteen dollars that you could 1136 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 1: pay to get anywhere from two to additional ten thousand 1137 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: people depending on how many people have liked your page, 1138 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 1: or if you don't have enough people liking your page, 1139 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 1: it means you're extended beyond your your friends and family likes, right, 1140 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 1: And that's that's really important when we're talking like this 1141 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 1: because of the fact that here you are an expert 1142 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 1: in it, your your your social media guru. You're telling people, 1143 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: don't just define your whole business, all your entertainment career, 1144 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: all your personal lifestyle that you're trying to brand the 1145 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: market on just social media, because everybody that's that's the way. 1146 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: What is the future of social media? Then? What is 1147 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 1: the future? Then? Are we overwhelming a system? Are we 1148 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,439 Speaker 1: are we making a system so generic that it has 1149 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 1: no value? What is the future of social media? Then? 1150 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 1: The future social media is actually really great. Um. We're 1151 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 1: actually changing the way we interact as humans. Some people, 1152 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: um are to be discouraged by it, but we're becoming 1153 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 1: less and less petically interacting society. And we'll see that 1154 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: happening less and less with virtual reality and augmented reality 1155 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: becoming part of social media. For instance, the way people 1156 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 1: are listening to this program right now. Maybe in the 1157 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: past it would have been a radio program or even 1158 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 1: a podcast, but now they're able to participate live through 1159 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 1: their social media, all TV, anything that we do um 1160 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 1: now that separate from social media will find it to 1161 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: be part of social media original content. You can watch 1162 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 1: your NFL on social media now. And that's why I 1163 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 1: tell people it is great for marketing because most small 1164 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: businesses and entrepreneurs could never pay for an advertisement during 1165 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: a football game, but social media marketing aroused for you 1166 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: to be advertising during that time period when people are 1167 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 1: watching the most important things to them. But we'll see 1168 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: more engagement of virtual reality and augmented reality as we 1169 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:28,479 Speaker 1: move forward. And additionally, I want to add it Mark 1170 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 1: Zuckerberg has said we will be able to think our 1171 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 1: status is onto Facebook in the future. Wow. Now, we 1172 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 1: want to bring you back for one more break so 1173 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 1: because you felt like you but you trying to wrap 1174 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 1: up on me there. You know you have that wrap 1175 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: up voice, you know, like I gotta go, I gotta go, 1176 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 1: I got things to do. Rashan, Okay, I've got talking 1177 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: to you. Well, we're gonna be back because I want 1178 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 1: to I want to know more about your hashtag social work. 1179 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: I also want to know about that the your your 1180 01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 1: methodology that's in the correct you're playing. Let me just 1181 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 1: break it down. You're playing your plan for success and uh, fantastic. 1182 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for calling them show. We'll be right back 1183 01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: with more money Making Conversation A three two, five, five 1184 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 1: nine two at the phone call fantastic. This is why 1185 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing this show to give you 1186 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 1: information to win with. If you listen to my show, 1187 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 1: you will learn how to be successful for free. Now, 1188 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 1: if you talk to the end of these people off 1189 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 1: my show, they're gonna charge, So you better keep listening 1190 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 1: to Hi. This ra Sean McDonald, the host of Money 1191 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 1: Making Conversations. Money Making Conversations to show that provides you 1192 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: information on how you can win in business and in 1193 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 1: your life. I am on the phone right now with 1194 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 1: the the co found of hashtag social Work, Satoria Hernanda. 1195 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 1: I gotta correct again. Dinner cool, awesome, Well good. I 1196 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 1: want to make sure I brought you back because I 1197 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,960 Speaker 1: want to talk about the actual company itself. We talked 1198 01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 1: about a lot of things. We talked about your vision 1199 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 1: with talk about the brand and the whole work. What 1200 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 1: it actually is social Work. We are a social media 1201 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 1: coaching and training company. We provide classes all over the country. 1202 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 1: When people fly us in and ask us to hold 1203 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 1: classes for different industry events. They fly y'all in, They 1204 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 1: fly y'all in. Yes, oh lord, you big time, you 1205 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 1: big time. Come on, continue, continue with the story. Yes, 1206 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 1: and we hold classes as well locally in Dallas. We 1207 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 1: do online seminars and people hire us for one on 1208 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 1: one consultations. And what we tend to do generally is 1209 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 1: set up a strategy for companies, entrepreneurs and individuals of 1210 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 1: how to get to their goals of their social media marketing. 1211 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 1: Who are they trying to reach? How many people are 1212 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 1: they trying to reach? What is the return for that investment? 1213 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,920 Speaker 1: You know? Are they just trying to showcase products? Do 1214 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 1: they want to showcase their company messaging? You know, we 1215 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 1: we we've to get that out for them, and we 1216 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 1: teach them how to do it themselves. I'm not a 1217 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 1: social media manager, which is a whole different type of person. 1218 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 1: That's a that's a different type of person. Correct it is. Yes, 1219 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 1: there's day to day post and all that. Correct, And 1220 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna slow it down for people when they 1221 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: hear that. You're saying, Look what I'm not going to 1222 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 1: be responsive for posting, you know, two or three posts 1223 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: to day on your Twitter feed or your face repeat 1224 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 1: or your Instagram Instagram account. That's not what you do, correct, 1225 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 1: that is not what I do. Now, I provide their 1226 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 1: strategy and help them um. Also, we create content for 1227 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 1: companies as well. So let's say that part of their 1228 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:41,439 Speaker 1: strategy and everyone's strategy should include a video component. Will 1229 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 1: help them create videos and different interactions so that their 1230 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 1: Instagram stories or Facebook videos and Twitter videos are quality 1231 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 1: content and keep with in line with their brand messaging. 1232 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, isn't it important to be 1233 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,040 Speaker 1: consistent with that message? A lot of people want to 1234 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,240 Speaker 1: just I'm just I'm just moving to every day people 1235 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 1: because everybody wants that viral video. Everybody think that that's 1236 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 1: that viral video is going to change your life, and 1237 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: that's not the case. What what should people be doing 1238 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 1: when when you talk about content, what should they be 1239 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 1: doing the most important content? And again, psychology has a 1240 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 1: lot to do with social media. We're all on social 1241 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 1: media for the same reasons. We want to be heard, 1242 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 1: we want to be expressed, and we want to um 1243 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 1: engage with other people. That's from every walk of life, 1244 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 1: including your personal reasons that your online all the way 1245 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: to your professional reasons. So your content wants to speak 1246 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 1: to the human interaction, anything that's funny, anything that brings emotion, 1247 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 1: like sadness unfortunately, and you know often even horror. Those 1248 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 1: are the things that people are most attracted to. So 1249 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 1: your content, it should stay within brand, but you want 1250 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,880 Speaker 1: to reach the human emotions if you're wanting the most engagement. 1251 01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 1: So people who UM start videos with like long intros 1252 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 1: or a bunch of words, you're gonna lose people before 1253 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 1: it ever get to the part you want them to see. 1254 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 1: How long is your sixty seconds? Two seconds is appropriate 1255 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 1: for Facebook and UM Instagram, Instagram, but people we really 1256 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 1: like and will we turn the crow vignettes. So if 1257 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 1: you can get your information across even shorter, people's attention 1258 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 1: span is about thirty seconds for the most ten viewings. 1259 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 1: So you gotta get in there, and you gotta start 1260 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 1: the video off with you gotta scare, make them cry, 1261 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:41,040 Speaker 1: and then they watch you make laugh, scare, make him 1262 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 1: laugh and then to cry. All the all three of 1263 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,680 Speaker 1: those emotionals start flying. You gotta viral video. It's funny 1264 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 1: because you said earlier about the different platforms. For instance, 1265 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 1: I market my money making conversation on my Facebook page. 1266 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 1: I market my money making conversation on my heart radio podcasts, 1267 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 1: and I market my mon to make conversation on my 1268 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Facebook page which has two followers, and 1269 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 1: my Twitter account which has over five thousand followers. So 1270 01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm making that shift to like really building that brand 1271 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 1: out because it really it has to become a consistent 1272 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 1: layer of identification. I can keep it on my Facebook 1273 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 1: page of my fan page Rishan McDonald which has over 1274 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,280 Speaker 1: tixtar thousand Facebook page. But that feels like that's miss 1275 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 1: messaging and you're just saying there has to be a 1276 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 1: consistency with your voice. Correct. You just have to be 1277 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 1: a consistency with your voice. And also you have to 1278 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 1: remember that you can't force people to come where you are. 1279 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 1: You are? What does that mean? Okay, okay, okay, kind 1280 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 1: of kind of got me there. What does that mean? 1281 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,000 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Because I may be doing something 1282 01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 1: wrong and you you actually right? Okay? Cool? Having your 1283 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,080 Speaker 1: content in various locations right. Um, For instance, when you 1284 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 1: go to a four way stop, there may be given eleven, 1285 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 1: a Taxico and Exxon and a Shell. Right, We're still 1286 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,799 Speaker 1: need gas, but people stop at different stores for different reasons. 1287 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 1: One may just be because of convenience, it's the closest 1288 01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 1: one to them. Other people may have had bad experience 1289 01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,599 Speaker 1: with another brand and saying with a social platform. Other 1290 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 1: people may just be comfortable only going to you know, 1291 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 1: one store. But there's different reasons that we visit different things, 1292 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,600 Speaker 1: and that's the same. Yeah. Um, some people aren't on 1293 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,720 Speaker 1: Facebook for whatever reason they've chosen out to be there. 1294 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,479 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you don't want to reach them just 1295 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,639 Speaker 1: because they're only on Twitter and Instagram is the same, 1296 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 1: you know, way people they're on different platforms for different reasons. 1297 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 1: And one other thing I would like to point out 1298 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,679 Speaker 1: to people. The reason I say email is the most 1299 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 1: important part of your social campaign is because if you 1300 01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:40,280 Speaker 1: think about the Old Times Square or Main Square, that 1301 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 1: town square at noon, a lot of people may be there. 1302 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 1: Everybody in the city isn't there, though they may you know, 1303 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,679 Speaker 1: be crossing by. But if you yell out something, there's 1304 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 1: only a few people that are going to get to 1305 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 1: hear your message. And social media is like that. You're 1306 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 1: never going to reach all of your followers at the 1307 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 1: same time. The system is only allow to reach a 1308 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,759 Speaker 1: certain portion of who follows you. That is the setup 1309 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 1: that algorithms are set, you're not going to be able 1310 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,799 Speaker 1: to change that. But when you have someone's email address, 1311 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 1: instead of just shouting in times square, you're actually ringing 1312 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,960 Speaker 1: the doorbell. And that's a whole different way of reaching people. Here. 1313 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,080 Speaker 1: You're good, You're good, You're good. You know you know, 1314 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in a seminar right now because 1315 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 1: you know you're not breaking stride or anything. You're saying. 1316 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 1: You are articulate, you know, you're taking up, you're pausing 1317 01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,760 Speaker 1: at the right time so I can deliver that that 1318 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 1: killer terminology. WHOA Well, you just hit me with email 1319 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,000 Speaker 1: is like ringing a doorbell. Now you know that straight 1320 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 1: out your seminar, straight out your seminar. R whole power 1321 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 1: point with that come. That was brilliant. It was too 1322 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 1: brilliant because You've always with these catch phrases, but I've 1323 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,160 Speaker 1: never heard that. I've said, I've called this phrase that 1324 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 1: the social media is your own personal press conference. Now 1325 01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,920 Speaker 1: I've called that statement. And that's so I know when 1326 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 1: people go, Wow, that's pretty that's pretty powerful. Like that, 1327 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,120 Speaker 1: that's pretty powerful, I said, yeah, because that's why you 1328 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 1: don't see people calling press conference in the way because 1329 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 1: they just go to social media. And you know, uh, 1330 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:17,600 Speaker 1: President Trump is a prime example. Yes, and so that 1331 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,599 Speaker 1: means that the people are now taking control of how 1332 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:24,320 Speaker 1: they market themselves and how they brand themselves through social media. Now, 1333 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 1: how can we reach you? How can we reach this articulate, 1334 01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 1: this co founder of social works who's changing the right 1335 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,040 Speaker 1: in the world. Because you're managing, you're not posting. And 1336 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,679 Speaker 1: that's very key for me to tell you. Tell people 1337 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:38,800 Speaker 1: that because a lot of people out there confused to 1338 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 1: too that she's not posting anything for you. Well, she's 1339 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 1: gonna tell you how to be successful and give you 1340 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,599 Speaker 1: a plan to win in social media. Correct, this is correct? 1341 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 1: So how do they reach you? To fish? Um, you 1342 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:56,240 Speaker 1: can reach me online on any social media at satry 1343 01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:01,439 Speaker 1: s a t R I zero six, reach me through email. 1344 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 1: You mean there's another story out there. I just like 1345 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,519 Speaker 1: the number. Okay, I'm about to say whole of that. 1346 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 1: Come on, No, this ain't sandingero six and um, you 1347 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 1: can reach me on email if you want to talk 1348 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:21,639 Speaker 1: about your social media needs at social work and work 1349 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 1: is spelled with an e ink at gmail dot com. 1350 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 1: And that that that that makes it happ when they 1351 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,560 Speaker 1: when they contact you and also I want you to 1352 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,719 Speaker 1: give me information. I can post it on the Money 1353 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,679 Speaker 1: Making Conversation Facebook page because right now I'm just trying 1354 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 1: to create the world of engagement. So we create a 1355 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:44,679 Speaker 1: source there's primarily geared towards young entrepreneurs who and every 1356 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 1: word entrepreneurship people confused strictly with business, and it's really 1357 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 1: about life. It's about taking you. Am I correct when 1358 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 1: I say that? Yeah? So right, when you're an entrepreneur, 1359 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 1: this is this is what you do, this is who 1360 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,120 Speaker 1: you are. If you don't just clock in, this is 1361 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,760 Speaker 1: your and that a lot of people they run from that. 1362 01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,280 Speaker 1: And that's why I know I'm I'm building a brand 1363 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,439 Speaker 1: with my brand of social money Making Conversation because I'm 1364 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 1: trying to create that breakthrough. Because when I talk talking 1365 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,640 Speaker 1: about small business, I know I get tuned out. Oh 1366 01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 1: he ain't talking to me. I am talking to you. 1367 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about you as an individual. Because what what 1368 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 1: annoys me the most is that when people clock in 1369 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,719 Speaker 1: for work, they don't even see themselves as a business. 1370 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,599 Speaker 1: They only see themselves as an employee. And that's not true. 1371 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,280 Speaker 1: You can build your brand and build your career because 1372 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 1: I did it. I've worked at IBM. I know what 1373 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,920 Speaker 1: I did as an employee, how I built my brand 1374 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 1: and built my and marketed the way I wanted to 1375 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,000 Speaker 1: do with the company, and that's how I rose through 1376 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,320 Speaker 1: the ranks. That's why I was a star at IBM. 1377 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,240 Speaker 1: And and that took those same principles and I apply 1378 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 1: them to my everyday life. And so I'm just trying 1379 01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,320 Speaker 1: to get everyday people to understand you can win, and 1380 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,559 Speaker 1: you can win big time, and you're showing yourself that, hey, 1381 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,080 Speaker 1: look I got skills, I got talents, and now people 1382 01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,560 Speaker 1: are flying me around. What what and and close it? 1383 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 1: What makes you feel so good about the life that 1384 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,439 Speaker 1: you live right now? Tori? Email it, and I hope 1385 01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 1: there are young entrepreneurs listening because I quit school at 1386 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:16,080 Speaker 1: age fourteen and had two children before two children before 1387 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,120 Speaker 1: I was eighteen years old, and at some point I 1388 01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 1: decided that I wanted something different for my children than 1389 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,600 Speaker 1: I have for myself, and that's the driving force for 1390 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,880 Speaker 1: me in my business and wanting to be successful and 1391 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,559 Speaker 1: be a good life guide for them. And that same 1392 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 1: thing has what brought me to helping other young people 1393 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:39,599 Speaker 1: with their businesses today and realizing that you know, there's 1394 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,599 Speaker 1: not one path to success. You have your all path 1395 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,439 Speaker 1: and you know what, a lot of times it changes 1396 01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 1: along the way. And that's okay too, as long as 1397 01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 1: you get back for yourself. And as you were saying, 1398 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,599 Speaker 1: working for corporate Corporate America is great training for anything 1399 01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 1: in life that you made. So never look down at yourself. 1400 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 1: If you're working somebody else, why you're also working on 1401 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 1: your need and for yourself. And you know resumes today 1402 01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,519 Speaker 1: you're supposed to put a personal brand statement on there. 1403 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,640 Speaker 1: So you have to figure out who you are, what 1404 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,559 Speaker 1: you want, and where you're going in any walk of life. 1405 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 1: And I think the thing that makes me the most 1406 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 1: happy about being a business owner and being successful being 1407 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,800 Speaker 1: able to help other people advance their dreams and their 1408 01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:31,320 Speaker 1: goals and get their business growing, you know, through social 1409 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,320 Speaker 1: media and through strategy, and I mean, I love it. 1410 01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,800 Speaker 1: It's a it's an awesome opportunity whatever to keep winning, 1411 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 1: your keep winning. I hope I can, I hope I 1412 01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 1: can invite you back. I hope this was a great 1413 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,960 Speaker 1: experience for you. So your energy is amazing. I'll definitely 1414 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,800 Speaker 1: be tuning into some of the other people that you 1415 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 1: have on on your show this. This is a brand 1416 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: that and it takes people like you who have to 1417 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,560 Speaker 1: take the time and deliver the message because I know 1418 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm building something unique here and it's through relationships they 1419 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 1: get you there, and you are talent, young lady. And 1420 01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,200 Speaker 1: I want to tell that other story that you just 1421 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,840 Speaker 1: kind of like broke the news to me at the 1422 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 1: n end, and I don't have no minutes to talk 1423 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 1: because you know, I'll be all over that story because 1424 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,839 Speaker 1: so many people allow those setbacks to change their lives 1425 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,640 Speaker 1: and they never get back on track. And you got 1426 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,360 Speaker 1: back on track, not only as a as a as 1427 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 1: a as a fantastic parent, but you got no track 1428 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,760 Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur and you've got them back on check 1429 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,040 Speaker 1: as a leader. And that's amazing. Besides the fact that 1430 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:29,599 Speaker 1: you know, when you show it for the PTA meet, 1431 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:34,200 Speaker 1: you define his mom in class, of course, but ourselves 1432 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,960 Speaker 1: will always be Okay, you stay strong, and I appreciate you. 1433 01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,479 Speaker 1: SA Tori zero six Okay, that's her because she's like 1434 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,439 Speaker 1: she loves that number. We'll be back with more Money 1435 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 1: Making Conversations and we can find information about her posted 1436 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,880 Speaker 1: on the Money Making Conversation Facebook page. Come follow us, y'all, 1437 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,559 Speaker 1: We're leading you. Black Moses on the phone, Black Moses 1438 01:16:55,640 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: on Facebook, Black Moses on Twitter. Money Made Conversations, we 1439 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:05,720 Speaker 1: win to y'all join us. We'll be right back. Hey, 1440 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,560 Speaker 1: just with Sean McDonald. Welcome back to Money Making Conversations. 1441 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,599 Speaker 1: This is a show for you, guys. It's a show 1442 01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,760 Speaker 1: that provides you with information on how to win in 1443 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 1: your personal and business. It's a career opportunity, it's a 1444 01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 1: game changer. And my next guest is on the phone 1445 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,640 Speaker 1: right now, so I gotta get on the phone and 1446 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,559 Speaker 1: hopefully not missing not she here her name. If it's 1447 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,439 Speaker 1: incorrectly stated, please correct me when I bring it up. 1448 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,799 Speaker 1: My next guest and the stut businesswoman who unapologetically pursues 1449 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,120 Speaker 1: excellence in all she does. My leak Till is on 1450 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:41,120 Speaker 1: the founder and chief experienced officer of curl Box, the 1451 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:45,839 Speaker 1: first monthly subscription service for naturally curly hair. Please welcome 1452 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:53,200 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations, My leak Till. How you doing that? 1453 01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,519 Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you good? I said your name 1454 01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,800 Speaker 1: correctly and you were close. It's my leak But that's 1455 01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:03,600 Speaker 1: how No, no, no, no no, no, Rushawn McDonald, you 1456 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 1: know I'm saying if people call me Russian a rock. 1457 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,800 Speaker 1: You know, I said, hey, hey, hey, look at say 1458 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,519 Speaker 1: my name right, because that's part of your brain, you know, 1459 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,160 Speaker 1: when you because you don't wanna be introduced in front 1460 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,680 Speaker 1: of ten thousand people when somebody say, Mila, you know 1461 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,479 Speaker 1: what you want to do, right, you gonna gonna change 1462 01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 1: the way you walk, It's gonna change where you speak 1463 01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,280 Speaker 1: because you have to correct. Everybody gonna throw your whole 1464 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,240 Speaker 1: game plan off. So say your name again correctly for 1465 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,559 Speaker 1: everybody to hear, and Rushan will get it right. From 1466 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,200 Speaker 1: now on, it is my leak till mine with the 1467 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: emphasis on my my exactly great girl, box, Yes, girl, 1468 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I'm tell you something that's 1469 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,880 Speaker 1: a visionary move to create a monthly subscription service. You 1470 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:56,080 Speaker 1: know that, right? Yeah. I think in my naivete I 1471 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 1: created it, not knowing how difficult it would be. But 1472 01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 1: I mean now that it's done, it's amazing. Okay. Co 1473 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,400 Speaker 1: two things happening. When did you launch it? Okay, because 1474 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 1: that's a launch, and then there's worked to the launch. Correct? Correct? Okay? Cool? 1475 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,800 Speaker 1: When did you launch? When did you launch? I did 1476 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:19,959 Speaker 1: a soft launch November twenty eleven, so I had no products, 1477 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,479 Speaker 1: no boxes, and I said, you know what I'm going 1478 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,240 Speaker 1: to I sent out a press release to Essence magazine 1479 01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 1: and I said, I'm gonna have them. Yeah, I'm gonna 1480 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,120 Speaker 1: have them put this out online. So they released it 1481 01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,920 Speaker 1: at eight o'clock online about this new business in this 1482 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,879 Speaker 1: new company that was going to be opening at midnight. 1483 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,800 Speaker 1: And I said, Okay, if I get enough people find up, 1484 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,840 Speaker 1: I'll continue if I don't out quit. And I think 1485 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,840 Speaker 1: we had a thousand people sign up like the first 1486 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,360 Speaker 1: hour after midnight, and they just kept going by the thousand. 1487 01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,120 Speaker 1: So then I said, oh shoot, I gotta you just 1488 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,400 Speaker 1: say on shoot, but we're gonna work at for radio purpose. 1489 01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 1: You gonna say oh shoot? Right, I said, now I 1490 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 1: gotta get some products and some boxes because I think 1491 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,000 Speaker 1: people want this. Now here's the it's the fun part 1492 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,439 Speaker 1: about it, because see this is an idea. How many 1493 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,040 Speaker 1: people told you you were crazy? Oh my god. Everybody 1494 01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,320 Speaker 1: everybody was like, how are you going to do this? 1495 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,000 Speaker 1: You don't even know how to do it. You don't 1496 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,160 Speaker 1: have any products, you don't have any boxes. And I said, 1497 01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,439 Speaker 1: as long as airplanes are flying in the sky, I 1498 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,000 Speaker 1: can do this. Like people have figured out crazy you're 1499 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 1: saying then, and guess what, and guess what the thing 1500 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,680 Speaker 1: about it is that this is like a like like 1501 01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 1: the last three or four years, you've seen a lot 1502 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 1: of this monthly subscription where you are you pay nine 1503 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 1: nine nine and every month you get a box with 1504 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,439 Speaker 1: product and correct, that's what you're talking about, right, right, right, yes, 1505 01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,440 Speaker 1: And we started almost six years ago doing that absolutely, 1506 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,360 Speaker 1: And so what I'm saying is that that's why I 1507 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:58,160 Speaker 1: started out with the word visionary, Okay, because everybody basically 1508 01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:02,719 Speaker 1: is emulating what you've done, and from a corporate standpoint, 1509 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,840 Speaker 1: they're coming in with the big dollars, you know, coming in, 1510 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,560 Speaker 1: big reporations are doing it. Now. You started out a 1511 01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 1: little African American girl. I f I'm a track star, undefeated. 1512 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:18,160 Speaker 1: You know, I ain't never lost in track now already 1513 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:22,760 Speaker 1: your competitor, correct, correct, very So that means that when 1514 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:27,200 Speaker 1: you when people were telling you, you know, what made 1515 01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:32,559 Speaker 1: you go beyond their no? You know, I always say 1516 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,599 Speaker 1: that if somebody tells me no, they don't have enough information, right, 1517 01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,519 Speaker 1: it's either they don't have I haven't given them enough information, 1518 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,720 Speaker 1: or they're telling me not yet. So I was met 1519 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,160 Speaker 1: with a ton of nose. But I said to myself, 1520 01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,599 Speaker 1: there's only twelve months in the year they're over. At 1521 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,880 Speaker 1: the time, they were over six hundred hair care brands, 1522 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:52,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, I have to be able to 1523 01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,200 Speaker 1: at least get twelve yes is out of six hundred. 1524 01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,320 Speaker 1: I have to So so I did. But when I 1525 01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:02,679 Speaker 1: heard no, I was ever angry. You know, I just said, Okay, 1526 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,240 Speaker 1: they just they need more information. They want to see 1527 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:06,960 Speaker 1: what I can do. So now I've got to show 1528 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,120 Speaker 1: improve right right, So so let's let's start back now, 1529 01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,479 Speaker 1: because see, um, let's talk about your life. You know, 1530 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, where were you at in your life, you know, professionally, 1531 01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,840 Speaker 1: were you like looking for the next big thing? All 1532 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,799 Speaker 1: you said, I'm gonna put on effort into this endeavor. 1533 01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm pumping my own personal money into this. Who was 1534 01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,639 Speaker 1: standing with you? You know when you who was standing 1535 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,600 Speaker 1: with you there? You know I had I was. I 1536 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 1: started off in entertainment pr and I moved to Atlanta 1537 01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,559 Speaker 1: and at the height of the recession, and I couldn't 1538 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,960 Speaker 1: find a job. So I started consulting. And then one 1539 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,560 Speaker 1: of the clients I started consulting um some online some 1540 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,240 Speaker 1: apps and online businesses, And what I was finding by 1541 01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,280 Speaker 1: helping them was that they'll let you know how much 1542 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:58,040 Speaker 1: money your sort of placements have made them. So if 1543 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,760 Speaker 1: I get you some placement, somebody clicks through purchases. And 1544 01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,639 Speaker 1: I was helping these brands make you know, eighty thousand, 1545 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,360 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars a month, and my sea at 1546 01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,599 Speaker 1: the time was nowhere near that. So I said to myself, 1547 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,400 Speaker 1: I have to be able to come up with something 1548 01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,479 Speaker 1: that I can then promote myself. And so that's kind 1549 01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:18,479 Speaker 1: of what the wheel started turning. And I saw deep, deep, 1550 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,280 Speaker 1: deep in the like tech um in the tech trades 1551 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,600 Speaker 1: about a beauty about how beauty subscriptions were going to 1552 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,200 Speaker 1: be making a comeback. They hadn't started yet, but they 1553 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,160 Speaker 1: were going to be making a comeback. And I said, 1554 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 1: great idea, wrong market, because women of color, we've never 1555 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,479 Speaker 1: nobody ever samples with us, nobody ever does anything. They 1556 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,680 Speaker 1: just expect us to buy it. So I had um. 1557 01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:45,040 Speaker 1: I reached out. I basically dialed in all my favors. 1558 01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,360 Speaker 1: You know, I would you say that everyty fashion fare 1559 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:54,679 Speaker 1: was really the leading for as you said, women of color? Right? Okay, 1560 01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,320 Speaker 1: so you was working with that platform only out there 1561 01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,519 Speaker 1: you say, hey, we gotta build you got we gotta 1562 01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,439 Speaker 1: build something for us, correct, correct, just more in terms 1563 01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,439 Speaker 1: of sampling, you know, we want black women want to 1564 01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:10,360 Speaker 1: try things too. So that was the deal. So I 1565 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 1: essentially I dialed in every single favor that I had. 1566 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,519 Speaker 1: The girl who made our current logo, Um, she did 1567 01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,320 Speaker 1: it for free. And she goes, if you ever make 1568 01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,160 Speaker 1: any money on this, just go ahead and pay me. 1569 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:26,519 Speaker 1: So I, yeah, but I did. She but this is 1570 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 1: the thing she's been. She's made money off me every 1571 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,920 Speaker 1: single month, and then I have continued to employ her. Yeah. 1572 01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,400 Speaker 1: So um, that was the deal. Well, I just basically 1573 01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,920 Speaker 1: called everyone, and I had no idea about like packing 1574 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:44,400 Speaker 1: and shipping and logistics. But my friend connected me with 1575 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,679 Speaker 1: his classmate who owned a fulfillment center, so they took 1576 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,120 Speaker 1: me on for free, no credit. Jack Um, I want 1577 01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:55,800 Speaker 1: to tell you, okay, okay, okay, when did prayer? How 1578 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,559 Speaker 1: much prayer was going on, how much faith was riding 1579 01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,640 Speaker 1: this this whole mission. You know what's so crazy is 1580 01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,080 Speaker 1: that it was it was what was interesting about my 1581 01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,320 Speaker 1: faith and this is that I felt like God was 1582 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,080 Speaker 1: insisting that I do this, Like I've given you this 1583 01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,960 Speaker 1: idea and it's like you can try to ignore me 1584 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:15,600 Speaker 1: that I'm like every single night until you do it, 1585 01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,280 Speaker 1: and that really I was like, okay, I hear you. 1586 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,160 Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm going to do it. And 1587 01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,880 Speaker 1: when I took one step, it was literally like every 1588 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,200 Speaker 1: it was like every single thing that I needed, somebody 1589 01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,800 Speaker 1: stepped up and literally gave it to me, which was 1590 01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,800 Speaker 1: insane awesome. That's this is awesome because the reason to 1591 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,000 Speaker 1: say it's awesome because of the fact that you're able 1592 01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,400 Speaker 1: to tell your story and make it happen in a 1593 01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,840 Speaker 1: big way. Am I correct? And then but but but 1594 01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,360 Speaker 1: the thing about it is that I always tell, at 1595 01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,800 Speaker 1: what point did you have a plan? At what point 1596 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,720 Speaker 1: did you know? Because you just didn't jump out there 1597 01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,960 Speaker 1: on faith, you have plans, right, relationships, mentors and things 1598 01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,439 Speaker 1: like that. So because I want people to hear these things, 1599 01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,519 Speaker 1: because you know, when you owns to show, like mony 1600 01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,919 Speaker 1: main conversation, I get tons of the wreck messages on LinkedIn, 1601 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,880 Speaker 1: on Facebook, people with all these ideas, and as soon 1602 01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:06,960 Speaker 1: as their ideas there's no merit to them, or they 1603 01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,040 Speaker 1: just sent me a video, no merit to them, no plan, 1604 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,759 Speaker 1: no plan of action. I get the fact that everybody 1605 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,360 Speaker 1: has a dream, but what is your plan of action 1606 01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:19,360 Speaker 1: tied to that? You are a visionary. And usually when 1607 01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 1: you're a visionary. When I say people a visionary, I'm 1608 01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:25,080 Speaker 1: talking about Zuckenberg or Facebook, I'm talking about Steve Jobs 1609 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,800 Speaker 1: of Apple. These are people who see things uniquely in 1610 01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:31,920 Speaker 1: a space and then make a model that nobody else 1611 01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:33,800 Speaker 1: is doing at the time. That's what you did at 1612 01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:37,160 Speaker 1: the time. That's not becoming popular, has become a very 1613 01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,479 Speaker 1: popular drawingre That's that's just just take it off. You know. 1614 01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:45,040 Speaker 1: You see national commercials with these same little monthly subscription boxes. 1615 01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,200 Speaker 1: When you get it, you're gonna get these products. Is 1616 01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,880 Speaker 1: a guarantee. When we come back, if you don't mind 1617 01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,240 Speaker 1: hang on a little bit, we're gonna talk about to 1618 01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:57,639 Speaker 1: my understanding. Uh, you're gonna be a future mom, is there? Correct? Okay, 1619 01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,760 Speaker 1: we will talk about that because they're gonna talk about 1620 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,240 Speaker 1: how she gonna change her work schedule, you know, and 1621 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about what's in that box that you 1622 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,599 Speaker 1: get every mond because it changes every month. Correct, correct? Okay, Cool, 1623 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,759 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more money making conversation. Just fantastic. 1624 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't be a joint you sail if I'm having 1625 01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,200 Speaker 1: a good time with your girl cool. I'm back from 1626 01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:19,960 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. This is the last break and money making Conversation. 1627 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,839 Speaker 1: Fantastic show. I want to thank all my guests, starting 1628 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:28,640 Speaker 1: with Sheila Coates, be your brand. Then we work our 1629 01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,639 Speaker 1: way around with Cody Oliver, the executive producer of Black Love, 1630 01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:39,320 Speaker 1: The Answer, Tory Ananda, social media guru. Now I'm on 1631 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:43,639 Speaker 1: the phone with my leak the emphasis on my til 1632 01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,720 Speaker 1: there we go. Now, I'm gonna win with you now 1633 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,880 Speaker 1: because guess you're special. You're very, very special. And I 1634 01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,080 Speaker 1: say that because of the fact that you know it 1635 01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:58,519 Speaker 1: had to be uh, you know from you know, it's 1636 01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,360 Speaker 1: interesting when I meet people like you because you got 1637 01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,880 Speaker 1: it early on somehow you know, you had the gene 1638 01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,120 Speaker 1: or somebody was important in your life. I don't know 1639 01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:11,240 Speaker 1: your entire story to say that that that pushed you that, 1640 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,240 Speaker 1: uh I told you you could be more than what 1641 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,240 Speaker 1: everybody else puts on the wall, or everybody else tells 1642 01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,559 Speaker 1: you that the color of your skin. Who was that person? 1643 01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 1: Probably I think my parents, you know, my parents, my 1644 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:30,519 Speaker 1: dad specifically, probably just always I knew, I knew as 1645 01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm doing my daughter right now, I'm pushing I'm pushing 1646 01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,679 Speaker 1: them to miss my leak to you, my daughter gonna 1647 01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:40,160 Speaker 1: be Christiana McDonald. There you go. Yeah, like very I think, 1648 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,439 Speaker 1: very tough, just you know, very tough and always spoke 1649 01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,599 Speaker 1: to me like I was an adult, Like never kitty talk. 1650 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,040 Speaker 1: Always let me have an opinion in a voice. And 1651 01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,560 Speaker 1: I think that that that really helps with limiting the 1652 01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,640 Speaker 1: amount of fear that I have as an adult. Do 1653 01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,960 Speaker 1: you want like I just I jokingly said that it's 1654 01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,240 Speaker 1: that's a compliment. I feel. I want my daughter to be, 1655 01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, just like my leak tell It's just how 1656 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 1: does that feel when that when you hear somebody like 1657 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,439 Speaker 1: me Rashan McDonald say that to you and sincerely say 1658 01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:12,280 Speaker 1: that to you because of the fact that you know 1659 01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,960 Speaker 1: you're doing your own thing, and you're doing it in 1660 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,920 Speaker 1: a way that most people have told you know, but 1661 01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:19,879 Speaker 1: in your back of your mind, you've had the support 1662 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,519 Speaker 1: system and said, don't listen, don't listen, don't listen. I 1663 01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,719 Speaker 1: talked to work hard. I've been telling you, you a baby, 1664 01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,880 Speaker 1: that you can do this. Don't let people get your 1665 01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:33,479 Speaker 1: head and tell you what you cannot do. That's amazing 1666 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,760 Speaker 1: that's amazing. How do you feel? How do you feel? Um? 1667 01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,479 Speaker 1: You know what, sometimes I get people write me tons 1668 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,840 Speaker 1: of letters and it is definitely humbling and sometimes overwhelmed 1669 01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:46,679 Speaker 1: me because I you know, the thing of being quote 1670 01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:50,200 Speaker 1: unquote special is nice to hear, I think. But more 1671 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:53,120 Speaker 1: than anything, it's just the dedication to just working hard 1672 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,080 Speaker 1: and always doing the personal work. You know, it takes 1673 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,040 Speaker 1: a lot of personal word to not be defeated because 1674 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,720 Speaker 1: I think we don't realized the person that defeats us 1675 01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:06,680 Speaker 1: first is ourselves. Yeah. Yeah, it was like a lot 1676 01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,320 Speaker 1: of work to not talk yourself out of the game. 1677 01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,800 Speaker 1: You know. It's interesting because I try to share a 1678 01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:16,599 Speaker 1: little personal stories about myself because I've achieved a lot 1679 01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,639 Speaker 1: of success in my life. But I've also i will 1680 01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:22,960 Speaker 1: tell you, because people told me I was special. Because 1681 01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,920 Speaker 1: people told me I was unique, then you know, I've 1682 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:27,800 Speaker 1: been bullied in my life, you know what I'm saying. 1683 01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:31,800 Speaker 1: So not only not physically, I was bullied physically when 1684 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,720 Speaker 1: I was in fourth grade. Look, I couldn't pass the 1685 01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,080 Speaker 1: due Let's I game a quarter. And but you know 1686 01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:39,720 Speaker 1: when teachers asked me to read and class, you know, 1687 01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,040 Speaker 1: students with get mad and people they honored you for 1688 01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,720 Speaker 1: good attendance a grade. Your other peer group will getting mad. 1689 01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:48,760 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell it took me a long time. 1690 01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,560 Speaker 1: That's why I admired the the the share of protection 1691 01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:54,800 Speaker 1: that was given to you, that allowed you to grow 1692 01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,080 Speaker 1: because I only had to I only had to figure 1693 01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:58,680 Speaker 1: it out on my own. And I would tell you 1694 01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,320 Speaker 1: it took me years to accept after Roe Sean McDonald 1695 01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:05,040 Speaker 1: was and is today, and that's important that when I'm 1696 01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,800 Speaker 1: talking to you, and I'm gonna keep pounding if you don't, 1697 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep telling you, I ain't gotta tell you 1698 01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,599 Speaker 1: too much because you know you've got people have already 1699 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,840 Speaker 1: told you all your life how special you are. And 1700 01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,519 Speaker 1: I want I want the kids to be put your poster, 1701 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,200 Speaker 1: put your put your brand on their walls and say 1702 01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,519 Speaker 1: I want to be just like her, because that will 1703 01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:26,280 Speaker 1: enable them to understand that no matter what, you can 1704 01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,880 Speaker 1: be like my leak. And I think that's im I 1705 01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,479 Speaker 1: think that's important and that leads to my next question. 1706 01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:36,160 Speaker 1: My next story is about your podcast because because you see, 1707 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,080 Speaker 1: that's how I working on this show. You know, my 1708 01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,000 Speaker 1: leak got I kind of working over here, but I'm 1709 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:44,200 Speaker 1: really sliding over to something even more important, is your podcast. 1710 01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:49,519 Speaker 1: Tell us about your podcast, the podcast I actually started, um, 1711 01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,600 Speaker 1: So I tell you what. I launched callbox that November, 1712 01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,960 Speaker 1: and I started the podcast literally the very next month, 1713 01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:02,479 Speaker 1: almost as a like a converse station with myself, UM 1714 01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:06,000 Speaker 1: and everything that I had gone through personally, and also 1715 01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:07,960 Speaker 1: all of the lessons I felt that I had learned 1716 01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,160 Speaker 1: that had gotten me to that point. And so I 1717 01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:13,080 Speaker 1: think when I started recording it back in twenty eleven, 1718 01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:17,720 Speaker 1: I used to get like maybe twenty listens like and 1719 01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,120 Speaker 1: it was so defeating. It was. It was so defeating, 1720 01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:25,040 Speaker 1: wasn't it. You know? I had no I had no 1721 01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:29,360 Speaker 1: point of like, point of view, the point of view. 1722 01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:32,560 Speaker 1: I had nothing to compare it to. There was not 1723 01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:36,120 Speaker 1: that people weren't really doing podcasts back then. So twenty 1724 01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:39,639 Speaker 1: was better than nothing, and nothing was all I knew 1725 01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:45,439 Speaker 1: and so found. Yeah, it's very much word of mouth. 1726 01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,720 Speaker 1: I think all of my businesses have succeeded just by 1727 01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,640 Speaker 1: word of mouth. And now I get millions of downloads 1728 01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,320 Speaker 1: a year on my podcast. And if I do it 1729 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,080 Speaker 1: all alone, I do it by myself, my own microphone, 1730 01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,960 Speaker 1: and I do it in my kitchen and it's there's 1731 01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, I just started ben guests on them, but 1732 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:05,040 Speaker 1: it really is just more of a with So I 1733 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:08,120 Speaker 1: won't qualify, right, I'm ball here that I won't curl 1734 01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:12,120 Speaker 1: I won't qualify for the Curly Box interview. But that's 1735 01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,759 Speaker 1: all right now just continue with you with your motivation 1736 01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,439 Speaker 1: about your podcast, which I have a big fan. Fact, 1737 01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:22,960 Speaker 1: she's she's she's kind of underselling herself over two million downloads. Okay, 1738 01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:27,559 Speaker 1: this is not she she's away from twenty to over 1739 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,720 Speaker 1: two million. And I say that because of the fact 1740 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,360 Speaker 1: that that's what this show is about. Money making conversation. 1741 01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:37,760 Speaker 1: Because see, along the way of being successful in my life, 1742 01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:41,000 Speaker 1: my personal and my professional life. You know, sometimes you 1743 01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,280 Speaker 1: know because you're you're a goal late in person, which 1744 01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,120 Speaker 1: means that when I say that means that when she 1745 01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:48,960 Speaker 1: meets one goal, she moves past it. And sometimes you 1746 01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:52,160 Speaker 1: move past it so fast you don't even appreciate what 1747 01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:57,000 Speaker 1: you've accomplished and my correctness in it, and so and 1748 01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,280 Speaker 1: so that's that's what this show is about. Be able 1749 01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:02,240 Speaker 1: to let me hear your story, but also to share 1750 01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:05,080 Speaker 1: with you the values of what you're doing and how 1751 01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:08,240 Speaker 1: you are changing the game. You've already said two very 1752 01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,360 Speaker 1: significant things on this show, but you've been very casual 1753 01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:16,600 Speaker 1: with it. You started Morthless subscriptions market subscription before that 1754 01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,360 Speaker 1: was even in the game. Okay, and then you turn 1755 01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:24,280 Speaker 1: around saying, I was podcasting before podcasting, you know, So 1756 01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,679 Speaker 1: so you had a vision about two and you started 1757 01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:31,880 Speaker 1: nearly at the same time. So so so yeah, yeah, 1758 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:38,000 Speaker 1: just said yeah, so so with that being said, my friend, 1759 01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:42,080 Speaker 1: my friend who who who's out of here just doing 1760 01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:45,519 Speaker 1: it up, you know, about to be a fantastic future mom. 1761 01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:51,439 Speaker 1: What is the future for you? Oh gosh, that's always 1762 01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:55,519 Speaker 1: the hardest question. You know. I think that everything that 1763 01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:59,400 Speaker 1: I do is always, um, whatever I think is on 1764 01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:03,400 Speaker 1: my heart, right, so I think, uh, I have I 1765 01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:06,760 Speaker 1: feel very lucky to have businesses. But the podcast does well, 1766 01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,960 Speaker 1: the the curl box does well. And now that I 1767 01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,360 Speaker 1: mean I've decided to become a mom a little bit 1768 01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:16,400 Speaker 1: later in life. Uh that I feel like I've earned 1769 01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,519 Speaker 1: my right to to have some time and you know, 1770 01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:24,519 Speaker 1: in grace, in grace because yeah, I've hauled but for 1771 01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:28,640 Speaker 1: a very long time, you know, countless nights, you know, 1772 01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,880 Speaker 1: weekends given away. And now I think it's like I 1773 01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,680 Speaker 1: think I had. What happened when I became successful is 1774 01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:35,920 Speaker 1: that I took a lot of trips and I fall 1775 01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:37,640 Speaker 1: a lot of things, and I'm like, this isn't going 1776 01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,240 Speaker 1: to get boring alone after a while, you know. Um 1777 01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:44,120 Speaker 1: So now I don't know. I think I think I 1778 01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,519 Speaker 1: was worried. I had a conversation with my dad about, 1779 01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,599 Speaker 1: oh my god, am I going to fall off? Because 1780 01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:50,840 Speaker 1: that was my fear. And having a child is that 1781 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,759 Speaker 1: if I have started family, and I think my dad's 1782 01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:55,320 Speaker 1: like not at all, and I think I don't know 1783 01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:59,240 Speaker 1: you're a parent, but I think you start to feel like, okay, 1784 01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:01,800 Speaker 1: now I have to go even harder. Like it's the 1785 01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,640 Speaker 1: thing is like I don't even like they eat first, right, 1786 01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:07,160 Speaker 1: So it's like I'm not just feeding myself right now. 1787 01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm wanna hunt. I've got I'm wanna mission with 1788 01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,760 Speaker 1: somebody on my back now, so I'm gonna be even 1789 01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:16,920 Speaker 1: more vicious. You know I'm right. Then, you now have 1790 01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,720 Speaker 1: a future. That's what I'm just telling you. You have 1791 01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:23,040 Speaker 1: a future, and you're gonna reset your goals and guess what, 1792 01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:27,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna create a curl box subscription for your child. Okay, 1793 01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:29,880 Speaker 1: I know you I know your visionary now what you 1794 01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:31,519 Speaker 1: ain't gonna do it sit around, go now that much 1795 01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:33,200 Speaker 1: and I come out that now much with an idea 1796 01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:35,200 Speaker 1: on how to make money. Come on now and you're 1797 01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,080 Speaker 1: gonna make it big. And I want to I want, 1798 01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:40,120 Speaker 1: I want to thank you. UH please uh give us 1799 01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,240 Speaker 1: information so we can post it all on our social 1800 01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:45,960 Speaker 1: media starting today in this week, you've been fantastic. Let's 1801 01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:47,880 Speaker 1: let everybody know one more time when we get off 1802 01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,200 Speaker 1: the air, how they can reach you, how they can 1803 01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:54,599 Speaker 1: apply for the monthly uh subscription boxes for curl boxes. Okay, 1804 01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,840 Speaker 1: the curl box list is open one day per month 1805 01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:01,120 Speaker 1: and that's usually every third Saturday at Kenning of Eastern 1806 01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:03,200 Speaker 1: and you can sign up for that at curl box 1807 01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:06,679 Speaker 1: dot com. And we are curl box everywhere on social media, 1808 01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,280 Speaker 1: and I am at my Week everywhere on social media 1809 01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:13,519 Speaker 1: and my personal website is my week dot com. M 1810 01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:15,920 Speaker 1: Y L E I K. And you tell your dad 1811 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,680 Speaker 1: for one man another man, I'm proud of him. You 1812 01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,080 Speaker 1: don't know me, but I know the results of what 1813 01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:25,360 Speaker 1: he's done and created. You're an amazing young lady. You're 1814 01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:28,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a fantastic mom and keep doing what you're 1815 01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,080 Speaker 1: doing and like I said, I want my daughter. We 1816 01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:33,840 Speaker 1: grew up he just like you. You keep winning. Okay, 1817 01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:37,240 Speaker 1: thank you so much, have a good day. This Sean McDonald. 1818 01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,280 Speaker 1: This has been an episode of money making conversations. We've 1819 01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,320 Speaker 1: been back next Monday. Keep changing lives, keep making you 1820 01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:46,160 Speaker 1: live a life that you know you can accomplish. I'm 1821 01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:48,519 Speaker 1: just giving advice to you for free. But if you 1822 01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,360 Speaker 1: don't take advantage of who's the loser, then this ro 1823 01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:53,280 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. Talk to you next week. Bye bye,