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Speaker 1: We need more warriors soon, Sam from the Stars Sun

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Speaker 1: in the Moon. But in who was shooting at him?

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Speaker 1: It means he was shooting at a black guy, So

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Speaker 1: we need more war We need more warriors in the

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Speaker 1: war on black on black guys. He ain't kill any

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Speaker 1: white guys in that video, which is really my only issue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're saying that this is Nas more spreading self

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Speaker 2: hatred than than I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying I don't know what the fuck happened. I'll

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Speaker 1: say I don't know what the funk outen in that video.

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Speaker 1: I'm old enough that I could finally admit it. I

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Speaker 1: didn't get it.

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Speaker 2: Nobody got it, man, and that's that's what it's so beautiful.

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Speaker 2: NAS was like, uh, put it out in it.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm just gonna put a T shirt on my

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Speaker 1: head say some numbers about guns. Don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Let me just say what happens to bubble the go. No, Okay, your.

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Speaker 3: Quality bears are racist. The money turney stuff, I can't.

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Speaker 1: Tell me, but I gotta be strong. But I gotta

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Speaker 1: be strong. Girl. You did me wrong when I thought

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Speaker 1: we were really down there. It is there. It is

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Speaker 1: welcome little Mama's and gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode

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Speaker 1: of My Mama Told Me.

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Speaker 2: The podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets

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Speaker 2: of black conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 1: And we finally worked to prove that the Dallas Shag

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Speaker 1: predates the mullet, a haircut that was introduced to the

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Speaker 1: white community by known government conspirator Billy Ray Cyrus to

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Speaker 1: add the popularity of the other one, because the government

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Speaker 1: knew that the work life balance struck between the business

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Speaker 1: in the front party in the back lifestyle would render

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Speaker 1: the black man too strong.

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Speaker 2: My name was, my name is likesan German, and I'm stunned.

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Speaker 2: Come on, that had like JFK shooting level twists and

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Speaker 2: turns in it that you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 2: you really built a narrative. There are more than one

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Speaker 2: shooter in that story, and I gotta, I gotta really

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Speaker 2: unpack this. So what you're saying is that that the

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Speaker 2: black Man shag, the the Dallas Uh, how did you

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Shag?

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Speaker 2: The Dallas Shag is in fact the the predecessor. It

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Speaker 2: is the original shag and the white man surp. This's

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Speaker 2: like rock and Roll demanded it become their own to

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Speaker 2: keep us from growing stronger as a people.

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Speaker 1: Yes, wow, because the core of it is the work

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Speaker 1: life balance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that that type of balance would make us

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Speaker 2: too powerful. We would we would loose ourselves from sort

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Speaker 2: of the restraints of the white man and his order

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Speaker 2: as it were.

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Speaker 1: They even want you working or not fuck you walk

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Speaker 1: that line?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, you're just at home drinking a Heineken

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Speaker 2: that you can afford. No, we don't like that, No, no.

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Speaker 1: No, no. They want you to kill yourself for that

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Speaker 1: crystal or drink that eight ball and not go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, I'm here for it. I'm bought in.

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Speaker 1: You know where that came from. Me and my girl

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Speaker 1: And I was like a kind of at the same time,

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Speaker 2: But okay, let's unpack amazing for you. Because because I

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Speaker 2: That said, what is the amazing for you? Are you like,

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Speaker 2: that's amazing that he's he's like being himself.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate when black man's it's an all natural haircut.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're saying that just to have the shag but

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Speaker 1: My man. He was shining. It was man, it was

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Speaker 2: Like I need you to be in a shirt with

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Speaker 2: This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm a living contradiction. I feel like I'm mixed.

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Speaker 1: I've heard that. I've heard that.

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Speaker 2: Every time, whereas like black mom, white dad, you get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you hit a sweet spot where you're like, Ah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because I had an African mom and

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Speaker 2: Yes, she's also struggling to make peace with this other element,

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 1: So then it's like, might as well do some stand

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Speaker 1: up comedy about it. Birth of a Nation available at

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Speaker 2: I just picture of you after a while, just staring

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Speaker 1: I have like a grape soda and a glass Banta

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it depends what era you rapping, because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, that's so far pseudo deep.

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Speaker 2: I was like, honestly, I think he might get an

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Speaker 1: Marty Scorsese, he takes some notes. You want to construct

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Speaker 2: I don't think he knew yelling, and that's all it

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Speaker 2: to him talk about the dying at thirty three Jesus'

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, sixteen one of my guns was

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Speaker 1: I don't know, gun man.

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Speaker 1: I don't know it added up to a theme dropping

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Speaker 2: Like all right, man, I don't know what this is,

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Speaker 2: but fuck you're a genius.

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Speaker 2: what what he thinks they believe they need.

439
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: Spread it apart like a quarter to three old joke, because.

440
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: He gotta like put on these you know what I mean. Like,

441
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: I think he does that every single time, even if

442
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: he's not in the mood for spreading apart.

443
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: And oh it wasn't. Oh yeah, me too. I think

444
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: here's the thing about going live. At some point, it's

445
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: because you touched that button. It would have gone live

446
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: from when you touch that button, your phone wouldn't be

447
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: across the room when you were sucking it, and it

448
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: just starts going live. Yeah, that's why I don't believe it.

449
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: I've only gone onto other people's lives. I've never like

450
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: gone live myself because it's embarrassing. Well yeah, i'd feel

451
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: a certain type of low that I don't know that

452
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: I can undo just sitting there doing that weight thing

453
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: that people be doing. Yeah, what's up?

454
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 2: What's up?

455
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: Nick?

456
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: Hey? Every time I every time I accidentally click on

457
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: somebody's live and it says you can request to join

458
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: this person's life. I'm like, I would rather kill myself

459
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: and it's like I'm doing my friends.

460
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, surely that that fucking weight is It is so

461
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: brutal for me that I could not even imagine getting

462
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: to enough people that I would feel satisfied with with

463
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: starting to talk. Yes, yeah, no, it's my worst nightmare.

464
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: It seems terrible, just waiting for a few more people

465
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: to hop in, then we're gonna get started. Like whoa man.

466
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: That's a tough sentence. Whoa tough sentence. But that's a

467
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: tough sect. But when they call out, looks like we

468
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: got about people on here.

469
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah that's good, that's good.

470
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: And this is because I'm sensitive. My ego can't take that.

471
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, no it's not. Look man, if that is part

472
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: of the game, you do the game that this is

473
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: not us telling you not to survive. However you feel

474
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: better suit you to survive. But truly, the idea of

475
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: personally doing that is my one of my greatest nightmares.

476
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: There's a reason I don't have a lot of Instagram followers.

477
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: It's because I don't know. I'm not willing to do

478
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: the things. Yeah, well that's that's.

479
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: My problem, buddy, you and me both. But yes, the

480
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: live is number one not a thing that ends up

481
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: across the room, and number two is not something that

482
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: is easy to do. It's like actually like multiple steps

483
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: before you can go live. It's not just like, oh

484
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: my butt tapped a button and suddenly we're live type shit.

485
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

486
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: I understand accidentally sending like a dirty picture because you're

487
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: in the frenzy of text messaging. Who hasn't who amongst

488
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: us right but to go live on accident and for

489
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: the phone to not be anywhere near your hand. But

490
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't like he accidentally went live and then like

491
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 1: set the phone down and started fucking right right, So, like,

492
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: I think it has to be shitedstaged.

493
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: Now, some people have been claiming that there's some sort

494
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: of scam, like people are hacking into these phones and

495
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: making them go live.

496
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: But how they known when he was fucking.

497
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: That's my issue is that it's it's a daily time,

498
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: right yeah, And it's not like, oh, well, we do

499
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: this all the time with him and so like we

500
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: we just so happened to this time get him fucking

501
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: it's the only time it's ever happened, and he happens

502
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: to be fucking across the room on his phone. That

503
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: feels a little convenient personally.

504
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And uh, I think in all this is to

505
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: what we were talking about before, is that it feels

506
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: like people were, if I'm madam, claiming for him to

507
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: be whatever the term you would like to call it, queer,

508
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: whatever you want to use. And it feels like this

509
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: was to like sort of dispel those rumors. Yeah, which

510
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: is sad.

511
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: I think what we were saying, that's the conspiracy is

512
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: that is that he is not pretending to be having

513
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: sex with this woman for no reason. He's pretending to

514
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: have sex with this woman and saying that's my Michelle

515
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: repeatedly naming her as a sort of red herring and

516
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: illusion for what he actually is, which is a gay

517
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: man who has gay sex.

518
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's true either. But I do

519
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: think that like this sexual pocket watching has really got

520
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: us all mixed up in a way that seems to

521
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: be doing a lot more harm than I because I

522
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: think it's cool if Shanna sharp folks, any you know

523
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. Listen, he's an old, buff, rich guy

524
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: who never committed to a family. He should be fucking

525
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: everything that isn't tied down.

526
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he's why you do that.

527
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: That's why you get buff and old and don't have

528
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: a family.

529
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: He has no responsibilities to anyone but himself. He should,

530
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: he should fuck whoever he wants.

531
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: He should be going crazy.

532
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: It would make perfect sense. No one would, no one should.

533
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: And this is a problem. No one should question it

534
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: even for a second. But he and this is what

535
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: we talked about, represents this such massive important figure for

536
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: sort of heterosexual black men that the very idea of

537
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp being queer is like a prison for us.

538
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: It's truly is like destroying us just because it's like

539
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: it's its own form of bonding.

540
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: I think, Like I think that's its own trap, right,

541
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: Like if that's a part of yourself that you're repressing

542
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: and you can't be free to explore that, which is

543
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: a pretty innate need or whatever, Like, how can you

544
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: ever to be free?

545
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 2: Right? How can you ever feel like you're yourself? Yeah?

546
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: This is uh, this is it is the most one

547
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: of the more animal parts of us, you know what

548
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: I mean? Like, it's the the most animal shit that

549
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 2: we can't like even uncooked slightly. Sex is so fundamental

550
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: in who we are, uh, And we can't control it

551
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 2: and can't stop it. The urge, it will always exist

552
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: in us. And the idea that you're repressing even a

553
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: portion of that, it is so sad and it seems.

554
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: To have a lot of consequences. I think we've seen

555
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: time and time again, right, Yeah, like repressing that part

556
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: of yourself and that's what's sad, is like I don't know, man,

557
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: we just like And now I feel corny because I

558
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: don't do anything. I'm actually pretty vanilla. I'm not even

559
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: as exciting as rappers, which does that hurt? Yeah a

560
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: little bit, because we're all living under this crazy hyper

561
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: masculine thing, masculinity thing where it's like you don't want

562
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 1: a good, pushy, full d every day.

563
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel the same way.

564
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. I never wanted to get late as

565
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: much as rappers. It's like, honestly, it takes more time

566
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: than I'm willing to give to it.

567
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely like it a lot, a lot, a lot,

568
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: but it isn't Uh, it isn't all consuming for me.

569
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: There are some and motivated by and sometimes those things

570
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: help me circle back to that sweet pussy I've been

571
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: looking for. But but it ain't it isn't for me

572
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: as fun without also the other cool shit that I

573
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: get to do, like pussy feels empty.

574
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that especially as a black I

575
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: don't know about I feel like being in my early

576
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: early twenties as a black man, you felt like this

577
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: is supposed to be the point of your life. And

578
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: if you find that lacking for me, it makes it

579
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: does make you feel You're like, you're like, is there

580
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: something wrong with me?

581
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

582
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like I am I I

583
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: must not be healthy. I must not be right man.

584
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: If I don't feel all these real man urges for

585
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 2: constant pussy.

586
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then when you get older, the guys who

587
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: are still doing that, you're like, damn, I feel it

588
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: doesn't it's not it's not good.

589
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: No, it looks bad after a while, where you're like, oh,

590
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: big man, I doubted myself early, but I'm saying now

591
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: I get that I'm okay, And what are you proving.

592
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like you get to an agent

593
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: somewhere where you're like, I don't think it's cool that

594
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: you get pussy an.

595
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeh, hey, man, chill out. You had your phil move

596
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: down the buffet.

597
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: Line for the love of God, where is your son?

598
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: There's only so many slices of honey baked ham that

599
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: that man is going to cut off for you, and

600
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: after a while you gotta move off the buffet line.

601
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean it speaks to like, but I mean like

602
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: people talk about it, right, did you read We Real Cool?

603
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: Of course?

604
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, she talks about it a lot, which was the

605
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: first time that looks about it, which is the first

606
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: time I'd ever heard anybody talk about it specifically with

607
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: the black man, And like, what you're looking for is intimacy,

608
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: But you go through sex and you'll always find yourself wanting,

609
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: so you won't ever because like it is, like it's

610
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: just that hyper sexualization. That shit's crushing us, man, because

611
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't give you space to explore the rest of

612
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: what you could be. Yeah, it's it's.

613
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: Like the biggest fucking thing that holds men back. It

614
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: truly is like number one on the call sheet. The

615
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 2: thing that's ruining us most is our unwillingness to fucking

616
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: just not be men all the time as we define them.

617
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: And how do we beat that? Oh? Can't we beat that?

618
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I don't know if it's

619
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: possible to be honest with you. It really like we

620
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: truly watched a generation of young men put on dresses

621
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 2: and sort of demand to be empowered and seen and

622
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: and fighting for sort of like shifts in these cultures

623
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: and beliefs, and like now niggas just wear colorful nails

624
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: and call each other the F word like it ain't.

625
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: It didn't, It doesn't deal with I think, yeah, you

626
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's just like you, you can

627
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: be queer and homophobic now, which is good, I guess.

628
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

629
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: I know for me personally, because it's like we're having

630
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: this conversation, but we're having this conversation because it's me

631
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: and you. For every one of these conversations, there's ten

632
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: just regular conversations with some dudes where you try to

633
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: bring some ship up like this and you are struck

634
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: down to it. I'm not even the barbershop and you're like,

635
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: I can't get a cut that day. Then I get killed.

636
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: Now, I don't if any of y'all thought we were

637
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: in our barbershops being brave, you are mistaken.

638
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: I'm barely talking.

639
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: Those men say vile, vile things, and I I nod

640
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: politely and watch the game out.

641
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: And I laughed, but not loud enough to hurt my soul.

642
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: Uh huh, Because like when you talk to an old guy,

643
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: he just give him.

644
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: What he you know, what he wants. Yeah, you gotta

645
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 2: give him what they want. This man is in charge

646
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: of my air. I'm not about to correct him.

647
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: When I think about all this, too, I do think

648
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: it's like I think it's also this all speaks to

649
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: this level of like aggressiveness and alertness that we're supposed

650
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: to have that does not allow you to like really

651
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: relax and search for yourself.

652
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.

653
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: That's what I think the shame is in a lot

654
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: of this.

655
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: I think the alertness exists and almost in a multitude

656
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 2: of ways for black men, where it's like you have

657
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: to be on constant alert of like violence and racism

658
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: against you, you have to be on constant alert about

659
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 2: sort of like your impression as this aggressive, scary figure

660
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: in society, and you have to be on constant alert

661
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: about the feminization of the black man that's somehow that

662
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 2: is also a weapon against us. And that dangerous sort

663
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: of trifecta of alertness then makes it so that you

664
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: never have even a second to just be like, oh,

665
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: this is me independent of a lot of the things

666
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: that are existing around me. I can just be myself.

667
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 2: You don't get that moment. But and within all that,

668
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: because I think the pushback on that is like we

669
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: can talk all this in theory, but like, are you

670
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: safe to let that go down?

671
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: Not?

672
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, not not in all scenarios. I think like you

673
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: and I are pretty lucky to have the freedom to

674
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: do this type of thing. But I don't know if

675
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: that is for everyone.

676
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was watching a video the other day of this, uh,

677
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: this gay dude at a roller skating ring where he

678
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: like he'll like h slide.

679
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: I saw that he was buzzing it.

680
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd be busting it wide up and in front

681
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: of in front of dudes who just wanted to be

682
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 2: heterosexual man at the roller skating ring. He got so

683
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: mad and they get real mad and like confused and

684
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: they don't know what to do, and it's funny, like

685
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: it legitimately made me laugh that this person does that.

686
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: But then a bunch of the comments were sort of

687
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: like quickest way to get yourself killed, like nigga, you

688
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: you bugging, Like, hey, I get it, bit bit but

689
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: like you better chill the fuck out type shit, and

690
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: it's like, whoa damn, Yeah, we can't even let a

691
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: silly billy be a silly billy without it turning into

692
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: like and he might die. And and they're not they're

693
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: not saying it as a threat. They're saying legitimately, you

694
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 2: gotta relax because.

695
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: That And that's the interesting thing about it, right, is

696
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: that it's like, so that video is kind of complicated

697
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: because he was like evading people's face and whatever. You

698
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: can't do that. But it's like the tone of those

699
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: comments are like, don't be yourself. It's too much. You're

700
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: too much. You're being too much, you know what I mean?

701
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: Even like the idea of being cool is this like

702
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: idea of don't show too much of anything.

703
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's that it's not me defending the person

704
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: and the silliness of it. I do think it's a

705
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: silly I don't think that, But I also don't necessarily

706
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: it's not a silly I would do because I would

707
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: fear exactly what you're talking about of like inva of

708
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: space and privacy and just the idea of standing that

709
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: close to men in general is not how I would

710
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: want to be busted wide open. That said, it is

711
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: crazy that it can't just be silly, Like we don't

712
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: even have the room in us to be like, well,

713
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: that's just silly, because the the threat of sexuality from

714
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: a man need requires us to fucking like flex and

715
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: hulk and defy everything silly inside of this.

716
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: And that's the tragedy. I think it also speaks to

717
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: this the stakes of what it is to be a

718
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: black man. It feels so high stakes sometimes, Yeah, And

719
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: that's the burden that I feel like we're that And

720
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: that's one thing that is truly racial. And I don't

721
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: think I don't think it's like classist or I think

722
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: it cuts through everything through to this thing at your

723
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: core where you're like, you can be silly in certain

724
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: places and venues, but overall, the stakes to my behavior

725
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: are very high. I could. I don't feel like when

726
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: I talk to white peers and things like that, they

727
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: don't seem to speak to the idea that they could

728
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: lose it all as much or that they have to

729
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: be careful right as much as it feels like when

730
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: I talk just like an average black man.

731
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: You made the point before we were recording that you

732
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: think it's beaten our ass the most.

733
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was gonna say that too.

734
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely that like legitimately of homophobia is beating the

735
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 2: fuck out of black men more than any other race

736
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: and community. Bro, Like it's all the shit we can't eat.

737
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: Hot dogs, even the pause shit.

738
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 3: Is but like for real, bro, but like for real,

739
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: that's crazy. That's crazy because of some PERSI and it's like, okay,

740
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 3: ha ha, it is a joke, but then it's ultimately

741
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: it's like but living under that even.

742
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: As a joke, is a burden that it feels heavy

743
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: to carry to me.

744
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: Bro, Sometimes I just don't feel like being in a bit,

745
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: And if I want a hot dog on a day

746
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: when I don't feel like being in a bit, then

747
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: I am in prison because I either don't get what

748
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: I want or I get what I want, and now

749
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 2: I'm being forced to play inside of the game that

750
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: I never wanted to play in the first place. I

751
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: just wanted a fucking hot dog, right.

752
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: And to that point, it's like it's like the same

753
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: as like the cot lacking shit where it's like, fuck,

754
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: where do you go to? Because like the homophobia and

755
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: that shit, I think is instilled in men and women.

756
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: So then it becomes like if I can't pull that

757
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: guard her down in front of my partner, where it

758
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: just feels it just feels like it's stunting the amount

759
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: of life you're able to experience.

760
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, truly. I remember when I was playing basketball,

761
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: I like putting my hands on my hips. That's that's

762
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: a good place for me, is hands on my hips.

763
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: And I realized at some point that turning your hands

764
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: backwards also actually feels pretty good with your hands on

765
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: your hips.

766
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: And my I because I know what you're gonna say

767
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: is so funny and I'm going to laugh, So before

768
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: I laugh in your face, whatever this story is, I'm

769
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: sorry that happened to you, because that's not fairite you

770
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: because I saw lighting.

771
00:47:51,400 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: Wait no no, no, no, no no, this isn't a trauma story.

772
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: You don't get to do that to me.

773
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 2: I'm saying that I discovered that that is a good

774
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 2: feeling privately, and there was something in me that knew

775
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: well enough that I can never be that guy. I

776
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: I it is not possible for me to be at

777
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 2: my most comfortable physically while I'm playing a sport that

778
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: I played as hard as I possibly could at the

779
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: time that I was playing it because of a fear

780
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: that somebody will call me something I'm not even you

781
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: know that afraid of in theory, but associated with me,

782
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: I think is somehow this life destroying idea, brother, and

783
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: that shit.

784
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: Is like because I seen when you said that, I

785
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: was thinking about, like when you put your your palms

786
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: on your lower.

787
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: Back, that's what I'm talking about.

788
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh, if I'm doing it right now, if

789
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm only doing it because my girl's.

790
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 2: Not here, like.

791
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: It feels nice, it feels great, But how do you

792
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: feel like that repression, that constant guard is not leaked

793
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: out into other areas where it becomes like if the thing,

794
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: if you are limited in expression to only a few things,

795
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: those few things, I think there's a possibility that they

796
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: can become very very They could they could almost be

797
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: too much, like you can't spread it all out if

798
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: you if you people feel like they can only express

799
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: themselves fully wherever, then it's like, damn that that just

800
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: is like full on repression and that sucks, like that's

801
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 1: just it's just that's a that's a that's a tough

802
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: line to have to tell you.

803
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: I think about all the things that keep happening with

804
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp in terms of his physical appearance, and how

805
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 2: often that is equated to some sort of like gayness queerness.

806
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: His clothes, in particular, are always getting You're sending pictures

807
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 2: of him in the littlest outfits that ever could be

808
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 2: for this big, giant, hulking man. No socks, often they're

809
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 2: capris more often than not. It always looks insane the

810
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: outfits that he posts. And some of that is to

811
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: me that leaking out of like, Oh, this is just

812
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: a dude who wants to be able to explore different

813
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: options for how he should look, but he can't because

814
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 2: he's afraid of the possibility of that coming off as

815
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 2: anything other than like hyper masculine, and so instead he's like,

816
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: all I wear is suits and ath leisure wear, and

817
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: then nobody will ever suspect me of being anything but

818
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 2: a man. And it don't look good. You look odd, bro.

819
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: They don't build it for you that way. You're too big,

820
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 2: You're too damn big. You need some big floey Steve

821
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: Harvey pants, but you can't get there because you're too worried.

822
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: You need his a dress.

823
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem with that is that he would look

824
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: funny in the dress.

825
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: That's just a comedian of me. That's just a comedian

826
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: of me.

827
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 2: He would look funny because he'd be so self conscious

828
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: in that dress. There's no way he wouldn't be pulling

829
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: on it and and trying to make sure his big,

830
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: hulking titty is put away. It just too much.

831
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: What you need to do is like, that's why I

832
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: think the black men who can do it strong dress.

833
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: And he's Jamaican who did bust the Rhymes. Oh yeah, Yeah,

834
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: he was kind of an outlier man.

835
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: There are also a lot of uh private theories about

836
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: him as well, the same nature, Yeah that he bustin

837
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 2: Rhymes is very vocally homophobic in a way that is

838
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: either Jamaican or a dude hiding a deep, dark secret.

839
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: Man.

840
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: I was really excited about this conversation. I was just

841
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: gotta be kind of bummed out.

842
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

843
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: I think it's hard.

844
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: I think it's good that we can have conversations like

845
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: this and that it can go out to some people.

846
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: I think that even within this conversation in my head,

847
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think some people are here.

848
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is so hard to number one

849
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: allow people to space to recognize themselves enough that they

850
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: can identify sexuality and identity and separate them from the

851
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: shit that we were trained to believe. But I think

852
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: even more complicated is reckzing. Even as you have made

853
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: some of those efforts towards undoing that bad thinking, you

854
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: ain't all the way there yet. You know what I mean?

855
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: That like I am, I am very proudly anti all

856
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: of the homophobia that I think I was in many

857
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: ways trained to believe as normal and see as okay.

858
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: And even in that, I am not fully finished cooking

859
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: as a true like advocate, ally in the in the

860
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: most pure sense of the word truly truly.

861
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, y'all, we

862
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: just want to put our hands in our hands. We

863
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: all just want to put our hands on It can

864
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 1: just start there. And only a few of us are

865
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: brave enough to actually do it. And and that's all

866
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 1: they can dunk.

867
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: Their name is Dennis Rodman, and they that's how I

868
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: learned it, because Dennis used to do it. I was like,

869
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: fuck Manny, I'm gonna try it, let me see. And

870
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: it was phenomenal.

871
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: It just eases the pressure.

872
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: Man, It's just nice man to put your wrists in

873
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: a different position than they're normally, so it gives you

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Speaker 2: But you're only doing that because it came See your

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Speaker 2: Well, we could talk hands on the hips all day,

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