1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Oh times, Tasper tucks down, touch downs, down time. Happy Friday, everybody, 2 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Happy weekend, and welcome to the show. Welcome to one 3 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Bills Live. We're coming here from Orchard Park, right next 4 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: door to the Bills Stadium. John Murphy along with Chris Brown. 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: Chris is our villain today for Steve Tasker, who were 6 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: scheduled to return on Monday. Welcome Chris Bills insider Chris 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Brown from Buffalo Bills dot Com. We are right next 8 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: to the stadium. Yeah, yeah, that's why I want to 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: situate people. That's right. Yeah, We're right here. We're right here. 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: We're here every day. New in to three A Jason, 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: if you will, yes, next door to U newer Afield 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: here until three o'clock. These new mikes, Murf, these are great. Well, 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: the mics are the same, I believe, but the the well, 14 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: the apparatus that Parretta is different. Apperetta, Yeah, sure, I 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: like them. Look at this. I just like that it's 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: not up here. I'm always you know, they're always coaching 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: me on the other side of the glass here to 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, make sure it's not in the way you're facing. Now, 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about it. It's right along 20 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: the desk here. This is a brilliant design. I love 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: the ergonomics going on here. You've always been a fan 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: of FaceTime for yourself and here you go this that's right? Yeah, 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: yeah they look good. How to get the big dome 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: out there? Man? That no noise nothing. They move around perfect. 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: The other ones are a little beautiful, yeah beautiful, Yeah, 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: well done. Yeah, good work. Welcome to the show. Chris 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: is here here until three. Good show coming up. Ladrian 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: Waddle's going to join us at twelve thirty. Bill's new 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: offensive lineman the tackle, former New England Patriot. You're going 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: to join us at twelve thirty on the line, Greg 31 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: Cosell as usual Friday one o'clock spot with us to 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: talk about the draft and maybe more. We'll talk a 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: little bit about NFL officiating today. Maybe we'll get a 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: guest on with that, and we welcome you to join 35 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: us as well. Of course, everybody preoccupied with the NCAA 36 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: basketball tournament. Guilty, Yes, me too. I stayed up until 37 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: midnight last night watching I actually watched the postgame press 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: conferences at home last night. How pathetic is that you 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: didn't have to watch Michigan for very long. You can 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: switch to the other game. You know, got down to 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: eight points. Yeah whatever, you know where it was going. 42 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: I did have a good feeling about it going in. Um, yeah, 43 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: Montana was the grizz The Grizzlies were they were, you know, 44 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: they're they're a conference champion. I don't look. I don't 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: overlook anybody. I hate to sound like a coach, but 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: you don't overlook those teams that have played a tough season. 47 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: I think they won twenty six games, won their conference tournament. 48 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: You can't overlook those guys. They know how to win, 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, and anything that happened, right, I would agree, 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: But it's Montana, murf. Come on, I know. I'm sorry. 51 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: There was a good win for the Michigan Wolverines. They advanced. 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: No insult to the Big Sky Conference, but you know, 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: sorry they advanced to Michigan advances to play Florida. That'll 54 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: be a little bit better, right, And Florida is not 55 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: a great team, but a pretty good team. And Nevada 56 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: really disappointed me. They did not show up. They could 57 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: not hit the side of a barn. I mean, the 58 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: only the only thing their shots were hitting consistently were 59 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: the floor. I mean, they couldn't fund the rim. Yeah 60 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: it was bad. Yeah, that was a team that went 61 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: to the Sweet sixteen last year and didn't have a 62 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: whole lot of turnover. I think they lost three seniors 63 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: that started for them. I mean, okay, that's a loss, 64 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: but they were in the top twenty the whole year. 65 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: They should have been better. I was disappointed. Interesting games though. 66 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: Yesterday I thought a lot of them. Baylor over Syracuse, 67 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: I didn't go. Yeah, I love it too, Syracuse losing. 68 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: Syracuse of course played without their player, right without Coward, 69 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: so kind of man. But they had the highest kid back, 70 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: so yep, he played. He actually played well for them. 71 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: Everybody raving about Murray State in the twelve seeds victory 72 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: over Market. My favorite game coming up here, Murphy second 73 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: round game. I've already got it marked on my calendar. 74 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: When is that game? It's Saturday? Yeah, we know, one time. 75 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: I don't have a time yet, but I will mark 76 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: it down and make sure. Why do you like that 77 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: game so much? Because it's gonna be a track meet 78 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: Florida State and Murray State. I mean, if both teams 79 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: aren't in the eighties, I'm gonna be shocked because I 80 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: gotta say this. I knew Murray State was a good team, 81 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: and I kind of went with my big East heart 82 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: instead of my head, and I picked Marquette in that game, 83 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: even though I flip flop I wrote I wrote that 84 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: down and crossed it out like three times and then 85 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: ended up going with Marquette and proved to be wrong. 86 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: I had only seen one Murray State game this year 87 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: and John Moran got injured in the first minute of 88 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: the game. He turned an ankle and left, which was 89 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 1: funny because the announcers are like, there's twenty eight NBA 90 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: scouts in this building and they're watching John morand walk 91 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: off the floor with a turned ankle after thirty seconds. 92 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: It was bad. Murray State might be the fastest transition 93 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: team I have seen in thirty years. I mean, I 94 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: gotta go all the way back to like U and LV, 95 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: Larry Johnson Anderson Hunt, you know those teams to find 96 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: a team that get up and down the floor as 97 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: fast as they do. I mean, it's like the Showtime Lakers. 98 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: When they get a defensive rebound, they are gone. But 99 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: the thing is Florida's State has the athletes to hang 100 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: with them. So that is going to be a fascinating 101 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: game because it's strength versus strength. They are a mirror 102 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: image of each other in terms of pure athleticism. So 103 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 1: you want to watch guys above the rim and getting 104 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: up and down the floor. You like up tempo basketball. 105 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to thin Loyola Marymount under Paul Westhead. 106 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: Maybe that's another team that got up and down as 107 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: fast as them because they used to have to shoot 108 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 1: it in six seconds or they'd be on the bench. 109 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: That is gonna be That is a game not to 110 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: be missed this weekend. Um. I gotta tell you, though, 111 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: ff she is gonna win. Don't you think they? Well 112 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope it's a good game, but 113 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm not I think Murray State could beat them. Florida 114 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: State has some talent, but they don't have a lottery 115 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: pick kit on their team, like like Murray State does. 116 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: That game starts at six ten PM. I just looked 117 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: it up tomorrow. All right, I'm gonna be in front 118 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: of the television. You're gonna skip Florida Michigan at five 119 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: fifteen pm. Well, if I have, if it means watching 120 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: the other one, then yeah, I'm watching the other one. 121 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: I will jump from that game to Florida State, and 122 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: I will watch that game and its entirety. I'll only 123 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: flip back for media timeouts to the other games. Great though, Yeah, 124 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: and you just flip between the four channels, bang, recall, recall, 125 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: last channel. My thumb hurts the day from doing that 126 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: all that night last night. Um, Michigan State Bradley was 127 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: an interesting game last night, and interesting in the controversy 128 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: around Tom Izzo, who had very strong words and even 129 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: strong gestures for one of his players. All right, and 130 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: he's yeah, I mean, I think it's been overblown a 131 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: little bit. But you gotta be careful, Chris. I think 132 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: we're in a new age here. You don't want to 133 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: be on TV wagging your finger in a player's face 134 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: or uh, you know, kind of he jumped up out 135 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: of his chair as if he was gonna go after 136 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: the player. You can do that. Unfortunately, he had a 137 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: coach and a player to kind of restrain him. Yeah. Um. 138 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: And sometimes the intensity of the game and the situation 139 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: can get the best of you. Um. You know, you 140 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: get all wrapped up in the game and then you're 141 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: hot and you say something to a kid that maybe 142 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to say, but if if there's somebody 143 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: jogging down the floor in transition, that's going to catch 144 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: his eye and probably about the eye of ninety eight 145 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: percent of the coaches in Division one because you can't 146 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: have it. You can't have it. So you got And 147 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, I heard what he said after the game. 148 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna hold my players accountable, and I'm fully 149 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: in support of that. I don't think you got to 150 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: get in the guy's face and threaten him. But at 151 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: the same time, I agree with the reason that he 152 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: was angry, because at that level, you cannot have somebody 153 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: jaking it out there on the floor and jogging back. 154 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: And from what I understand, because I heard Dan Dock 155 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: in the morning on the radio and he said he 156 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: knows the high school coach that that freshman kid played 157 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: under in high school Indianapolis, and he said that guy's 158 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: an even bigger disciplinarian than Tom Izzo is. So he's 159 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: heard it before and he's used to it. I'm not 160 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: saying that justifies it, but I think he was well 161 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: within his rights to say what he felt he had 162 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: to say. You want to I don't know about, you know, 163 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: approaching him and getting all up in his face. I 164 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: don't know about that, but right, he can say what 165 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: he wants, but you can't threaten him physically. It's interesting too, 166 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: and predictably, the uh the coaching fraternity kind of closed 167 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: ranks around Tom Izzo and oh, yeah, this is Tom. 168 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: Is that we know who he is? Okay, I get that. 169 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: But watching one of the and I don't even know 170 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: who the two former players were on one of the shows. 171 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: You know, CBS on all of these networks with the 172 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: tournament this week have halftime shows and in between game shows. Yeah, 173 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: two younger, youngish maybe thirty ish, male and female African 174 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: American former players both took great exception to Iszo wagging 175 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: his finger in the face of his player, And I thought, 176 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: they're right, those two players are right. You don't do that. 177 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: You can't do that. You can be you can be 178 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: very strong verbally, you can be you can yell and scream, 179 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: but you can't threaten the players physically. And if you 180 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: could do it twenty years ago, you can't do it now. 181 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: I know it was wagging a finger, a physical a 182 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, if I go, look, did you see 183 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: how you flinched somebody, Yeah, somebody puts their finger in 184 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: your face. You are immediately on the defense. And I 185 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: don't think that's acceptable. And I saw those players last night. 186 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know their names. Former players talk 187 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: about that, and I thought they're right. You can't do that. 188 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: Got away with the twenty years ago. It doesn't mean 189 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: you can do it now anyway. There are games this afternoon, 190 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: as you know, Iowa Cincinnati, we'll tip it off on 191 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: about five minutes, Oklahoma, Whole miss later this hour night, Kentucky, 192 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: Texas Tech, you see, Irvine, Kansas State, Coogate, Tennessee. All 193 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: of them the early afternoon games. Of course, most of 194 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: our listening area are viewing area concerned about the four 195 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: o'clock game today, the men's game at least Buffalo versus 196 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: Arizona State. That game coming up at four o'clock today 197 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: on TNT should be a good game. UB goes in 198 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: there with thirty one wins, so obviously they must be 199 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: taken seriously. Arizona State goes in there with a pretty 200 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: good win the other night against Saint John's and a 201 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: very high profile coach. I would think you'd be will win, 202 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: but this won't be a cakewalk. I wouldn't think. Well, again, 203 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: you got two teams with similar strengths, you know, just 204 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: a probably equal in athleticism. There are players that can 205 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: hit the three. I don't think with this quite the 206 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: same effectiveness as you be can For Arizona State, their 207 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: point guards nicked up with the groin injury, and like 208 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: we were saying on yesterday's show, if it's me, whoever 209 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: Remy Martin is guarding, I'm telling that guy to take 210 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: it to the hole because with that groin injury, he 211 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: cannot slide defensively as quick as he usually does. So 212 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: you know the help is then going to be coming 213 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: to help Martin. The other players are probably you know, 214 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: in tune to that, and so now you should have 215 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: somebody open, whether you're kicking it to somebody or there's 216 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: somebody down low. Based on the help defense, who comes open. 217 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: The guy who's ball handling and taking Martin off the 218 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: bounds is going to have to look for that if 219 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: his own shot isn't there because of a double team. 220 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: That'll be a good game. Women's you'd be women's team 221 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: plays today as well, about four thirty. Yeah, they go 222 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: up against Rutgers that game in Connecticut. Today's Yeah, I 223 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: saw a Rutgers coach. I guess she's not Stringer. Vivian 224 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: Stringer is not. I don't think she's gonna be there. 225 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: She took another leave of absence due to health reasons. 226 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: So obviously we wish the best to her, but you 227 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: wonder what state her team will be in, knowing the 228 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: coach Stringer might not be on the sidelines. At least 229 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: that's the last I saw going into the weekend last 230 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: week that she was not going to be with the 231 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: team for the tournament, at least the early stages. So 232 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: four thirty game that is in stores can Yeah, that's 233 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for you, be fan. They're gonna 234 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: be flipping flipping the channel back and forth because isn't 235 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: the Women's Tournament on ESPN two and two today. Hey, 236 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: I did it all day yesterday. I know, but like 237 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: you kind of you know, if you're an a lum 238 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: or a diehard fan, you want to see this game 239 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: and its entirety and now halfway you know you maybe, 240 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: I guess you hope the UBI men are done just 241 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: about with the first half by the time you got 242 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: to flip over to that game, and well you can 243 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: also go back to your commercial breaks. I know, but 244 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: you want to kind of watch it start to finish. 245 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: If you're like in rewind to where you left it. 246 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: You can't rewind it four two hours of basketball, I 247 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: just all the time. Can't do that all the time. 248 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: Can't DVR. The tournament stuffs happening too fast, it's too fluid. 249 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: Can't live in the past easy. You got to live 250 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: in the live moment there in men's game and commercial, 251 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: switchover back where you left it, watch that that game 252 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: gets the commercial, go back to the men's game. It's 253 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of mentally, it's it's a good mental exercise. 254 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: I've done it before in football games, football days. That's tough. Yeah. Anyway, 255 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: the tournament goes on with the Buffalo teams in action today. Uh, 256 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about football mostly here. I do 257 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: want to talk about this, Chris Um, this got your attention. 258 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: I read it too, Yeah, um NFL team executive. According 259 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: to Robert Klencoe, he worked writes for a sports illustrator. 260 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: We have him on the show, had a quote from 261 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: an NFL executive and unidentified NFL executive and he got 262 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: off on a rant about college football and amateurism. The 263 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: NFL executive quote, The whole thing stinks. There's so much 264 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: money at the college level, and if the good guys 265 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: aren't going to pay you, the bad guys are. The 266 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: college coaches are always honest about their kids leaving earlier, 267 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: and I tell them, until you start paying them, they're leaving. 268 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: You have these huge TV contracts. You can pay ten 269 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: coaches a million dollars each, exaggeration, but you can't pay 270 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: the players. Doesn't make sense. It's garbage and everybody knows 271 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: it's garbage. Interesting quote and unidentified NFL team executive who is? 272 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: And it struck me a little bit too in the 273 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: context of this week with the basketball tournament calling on 274 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: and the millions of dollars generated, and eight hundred and 275 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars all of it, you know, and just 276 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: from the tournament. By the way, there's more than enough 277 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: TV commercials. I'm watching these games, toy, right. Did that 278 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: annoy you? In all the same commercials a lot? But 279 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: it's the same deal in college basketball. Steve and I 280 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: had a tasker and I had a disagreement a couple 281 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. And I said, I forget what we 282 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: were talking about. I said something along the lines of college, 283 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: big time college sports is fundamentally corrupt. I believe this 284 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: NFL team executive is acknowledging that, saying that in his 285 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: quotes for Robert Clempo Clemcoe, he says the NCAA, they're 286 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: all crooks. It's extortion of these players because they're all 287 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: beat up. He went on to how the players ruggle 288 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: to get through the physicals at the combine. But he's right, 289 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: and I keep waiting, and I mentioned this to Steep 290 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Chris, I thought that the 291 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: FBI investigation into college basketball violations, which is ongoing, in fact, 292 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: there are sentence sentencings coming up. I thought that might 293 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: be like a cleansing, uh moment for college basketball. Big 294 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: time college is involved. There's too much money involved, and 295 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: people can you know, people can cheat and be suspended 296 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: and lose NCAA certification for a while, a year or two, 297 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: and that yet the beat goes on. There's no stop 298 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: in this thing that football or basketball, big time college sports. 299 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: I think this NFL team executive is right. The All 300 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: American Conference, which is not a power five conference. They're 301 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: probably somewhere between mid major and a power conference. That 302 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: that group, which is largely a basketball conference we're talking 303 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: to like Yukon, Central Florida, South Florida, Memphis teams like this, 304 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: which is a conference that u B should take a 305 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: look at quite seriously in the next few years because 306 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: they're pretty close to reaching critical. Man, they just signed 307 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: a deal to be on ESPN Plus. Each team is 308 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: going to get seven million dollars a year for the 309 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: next ten years the All American Conference Murphy, not like 310 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: the SEC or the ACC seven million per school per 311 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: year in TV rights to be on ESPN Plus. I 312 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: mean I don't even have ESPN Plus. I mean I 313 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: gotta go on my laptop to get that. Um. The 314 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: money is even trickling down to the Nonpower fives in 315 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: exorbitant fashion because all of these streaming outlets now are 316 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: looking for programming to fill and you know, that's a 317 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: I believe that's a twelve team conference, decent size markets 318 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: in many areas, you know, um, and I think that's 319 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: where u B should go, that's where they should make 320 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: that jump. Well, yeah, because I want yeah, because if 321 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: you want to hold onto the coaches you have, you're 322 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: gonna have to pay him more. Where's that revenue coming from. 323 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: Its coming from TV money. That's the only way you're 324 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: gonna be able to compete and hold onto coaches that 325 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: you want. Otherwise, you're just gonna be cycling through, cycling through, 326 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: cycling through getting a conference that's going to generate the 327 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: revenue you need to hold onto those coaches while also 328 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: being able to actually fill real jobs that do real 329 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: work in the athletic department to support it all. You're 330 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: talking about the American Athletic Conference, the All American Conference. 331 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: Are you sure the All American? I think the AC Yeah, 332 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: that's the one I'm talking about. Oh, I thought it 333 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: was the All American Houston, Yeah, Temple, those Houston, Temple, Memphis, 334 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: Central Florida, Yukon, right, yeah, right, yeah, No, I see 335 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: what you mean. You're right, it's it's it's maybe a 336 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: half notch above well, it's at the top end of 337 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: mid major, right, I would say, yes, Yes. It's funny 338 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: because the commissioner of that conference he's calling he's starting 339 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: to throw around the term Power six because he's trying 340 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: to build his conference into the next power conference. You know, 341 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: you got the Power five and then everybody else. So 342 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: he's trying to get up into that converence. I think 343 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: it's a pretty astute marketing move on his part. And 344 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: this ESPN television rights deal, which just happened like a 345 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: week ago, is certainly putting him in that conversation. Now, Memphis, Houston, Tulane, 346 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: SMI putting them in that count. Maybe Tulsa, Central Florida, 347 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: Temple Cincinnati, South Florida. I mean, you had some decent 348 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: size markets. I mean, Houston being the lead dog obviously, 349 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: but you got some decent Florida markets. You got Tampa 350 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: because South Florida is in there, right, you know, Central 351 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: Florida and Central and central Florida, so you've got you know, 352 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: middle of the state there. You know, Sucati Buffalo would 353 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: bring a top fifty television markets to the table. I mean, 354 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: I think that's someone they should talk to because you're 355 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: never going to get there in the Mid American Conference, 356 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: not as long as you have teams in your conference 357 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: from Athens Oxford, Ohio, it's not going to happen. I mean, 358 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: the next biggest marketing after Buffalo is what Toledo, So 359 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: you're not getting there you've immediately gone to an NFL 360 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: executive Ripsy NCAA. Yeah, and now I've got a business 361 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: plan for you to get to the next step. Did 362 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: you not get the point? The point is Chris college football, 363 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: now I got, is fundamentally corrupt. How in the world 364 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: is it legal? You know? How how is it legal 365 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: to the what do they do? They make the argument 366 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: that they're getting a free four year college education. Now, realistically, 367 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: the top ten percent of the athletes on these teams 368 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: are not really all that concerned about a college education 369 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: because they're thinking about a pro career in sports. Um. 370 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: I suppose you could make the art the NCAA could 371 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: make the argument that they're getting a free education. And 372 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: these days, a four year college education at a private 373 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: institution is upwards of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 374 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 1: You know, upwards of two hundred thousand dollars. I think, um, 375 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: because believe me, I've been to a couple of private 376 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: schools lately and it ain't gonna be cheap. Um state school, 377 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: come on, UM, so you know where you can make 378 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: that argument? How valid is it? I don't know, you 379 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: tell me. I mean, it's two hundred thousand dollars college 380 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: education or you want a ballpark it and say one 381 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: fifty one sixty is what they're getting for free. And 382 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: that's why they get to come and you know, be 383 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: athletic for us. I mean the pluses or the pros 384 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: for the institutions far outway, you know, whatever they're giving 385 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: up in free education by generating millions and millions every year. 386 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: The NFL executive who talked to Robert Klemcoe had a 387 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: really good quote here. He said, these players are never 388 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: more marketable than the four years while they're in college. 389 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: Their stadiums are bigger than ours. Everyone paid one hundred 390 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: bucks to get in and fifty dollars to park. And 391 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: the conference as a TV contract and there's national TV 392 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: and the players don't get a dime. How in the 393 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: world is this legal? Right? It's a really good point, 394 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: and it's I think it's a point to consider this 395 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: week as the NCAA basketball tournament, that multimillion dollars cash 396 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: cow I just sat to generate the millions of dollars 397 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: I just saw it. This week, they generate eight hundred 398 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: and twenty one million of the one point one billion 399 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: dollars that the NCAA generates in revenue, and isn't it 400 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the end cia a 401 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: not for profit? I think so? I mean that is 402 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: the biggest That's an even bigger joke. Yeah, I mean, 403 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: come on, who are we kidding there? I mean, they're 404 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: just they're They're no better than FIFA, and FIFA was 405 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: one of the most corrupt non for profits in the world. 406 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: NCAAs and far behind well. And look, I'm not anti 407 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: college sports, not at all. I enjoyed the talk about tournament, 408 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: but there is a fundamental disconnect between how it's presented 409 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: and how it's how it's considered, and what really goes on. 410 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a million dollars, multimillion dollar enterprise 411 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: going on today, tomorrow, Sunday for all of these schools, 412 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: these big time schools. And this is why some of 413 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: us prefer professional sports, in particular professional football, because there's 414 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: no um, there's no pretense about it. It's all about money. 415 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: We know that, right, we know that that's bills are about. 416 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: Who can make a very strong argument if you're going 417 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: to go against the college sports machine and the NCAA, 418 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: that it is full and outright exploitation. Sure of athletic talent. 419 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: They can argue that, you know, they get a college 420 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: education in return, and that's what they're bartering with. But 421 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: the money that is being made and generated nowadays is 422 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: so exorbitant that it just doesn't wash. It just doesn't wash. 423 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: And you know, we're not too far removed from just 424 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: a few years ago when those Northwestern football players tried 425 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: to overthrow the system, and unfortunately it fizzled out and failed. 426 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: And I think part of the reason it fails is 427 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: because of the wide variance between the cream of the 428 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: crop Division one athletes and the true student athletes at 429 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: Division three who want to still compete and continue their 430 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: athletic careers and are doing it without any benefits, you know, 431 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: scholarship wise, but still want to compete and get an 432 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: education at the same time. I mean, I was in 433 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: that boat. I was a Division three athlete, and you know, 434 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: I mean I could could. I have probably played low 435 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: Division one, yeah, but you know, the politics involved in 436 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: scholarship and who's getting a scholarship, who's not partial scholarship, this, 437 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: that and the other. I didn't want to deal with 438 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. Division three was the way to 439 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: go and for me it was some of the best. 440 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably the best four years of my 441 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: life doing that. UM. And so there's that half of it. 442 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: And you say, well, see, then that's what the NCAA 443 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: probably stands on. That's what that's the soapbox they get on. 444 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: See we are about the student athlete and blah blah blah, 445 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: and here is the reason why. But you've got to 446 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: separate those two entities. I think you know, yeah, those 447 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: Power five conferences have kind of come up well with 448 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: a separate they are just gonna say they have kind 449 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: of almost broken away from me. Well, yeah, pretty much 450 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: because they are such money generating entities, the Big five conferences, 451 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: and maybe and maybe those are the athletes that you 452 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: do pay. Yeah, they don't need the NCAA rules or regulations. 453 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: They don't. They don't need the NCAA to put together 454 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: TV networks because they all do it themselves now. And anyway, 455 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: we just thought we'd threw throw that out there today. 456 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: Robert Klemcoe quoting an NFL executive and I'm named NFL executive. 457 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: I wish you'd put his name on this. It wasn't 458 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: even interview him for this he just started spouting off. Yeah, 459 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: the whole thing stinks. He said, it's their crux. How 460 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: in the world is this legal there? And that's why 461 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: you know the plan that I have here for you 462 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: Be to go to the AAC. I'm just figuring nothing's changing, 463 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: So let's let's try to get you Be up on 464 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: the front foot of this and help them business wise 465 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: so they can retain good coaches like the ones they 466 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: have in Coach Jack and Coach Oates. I really thought 467 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: a year ago, a year and a half ago, once 468 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: the FBI got involved, that things might change, but it's 469 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: it's not happening. You can see it, you know, with 470 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: the basketball coaches. All right, Football talk is going to 471 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: dominate our show today. Obviously, we're gonna have in just 472 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes later and Wattle new Bills offensive 473 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: linement on the line with us. Great go Sell joins 474 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: us at one o'clock. We're going to spend a lot 475 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: of time talking about the NFL owners meetings coming up 476 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: next week in Phoenix, Arizona, and the rules changes that 477 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: might be discussed there. We have a Twitter poll for 478 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: you here today which deals with the Bills. A lot 479 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: of talk this week on our show about the New 480 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: York Jets. We talked with Rich Sumini of ESPN NFL 481 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: Nation New York yesterday about the Jets the move they made. 482 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: They made some big moves in free agency in the 483 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: first couple of weeks. So a simple Twitter poll question 484 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: for you, which team the Bills are the Jets is 485 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: more ready to compete for a wildcard spot? Now, drafts 486 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: still to come. We know that schedule as we release 487 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: yet obviously we know that, but which team the Bills 488 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: are the Jets is more ready to compete for a 489 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: wildcard spot? So I may say why wildcard? Well, Patriots 490 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: are still there. I think we have to be realist. Yes, 491 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: we don't concede them anything, but if you're gonna make 492 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs, you would start with a wildcard spot, right, Yeah, 493 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: And I think it's fair. I don't think anybody's saying that. 494 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: You know, the Patriots are an absolute lock, but if 495 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: you ask the average national media member to pick the 496 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: most likely division champions across the league, New England's gonna 497 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: be one of the first two names to come out 498 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: of their mouth. Yeah, and that's due in part to 499 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: pass history, but it's also due in part to the 500 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: fact that they've been able to sustain it as long 501 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: as they have in the two most key components to 502 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: that formula are still playing and coaching in New England, 503 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 1: so we're just trying to be real about it. So 504 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: which team builds are Jets is more ready to compete 505 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: for a wild card spot? Twitter poll is up and 506 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: running with about four hundred votes in so far. Eighty 507 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: eight percent of you say the Bills are more ready 508 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: to compete for a wild card Like to know why? Yeah, 509 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: and twelve percent say the Jets. Give us a call 510 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: let us know why. Send us in a tweet at 511 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: One Bills Live and we may read it on the 512 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: tweet sheet. Tell us why you believe that that the 513 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: Bills are more ready to compete or the Jets. Eight 514 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: oh three h five fifty the number to call with 515 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: your comments and responses to this or from outside Buffalo 516 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty Which 517 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: team is more ready to compete for a wildcard spot? 518 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: Chris and I are ready to go, and from now 519 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: until three o'clock, come on back. Lay Adrian Waddle schedule 520 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: to join us when we return. One Bill's Live presented 521 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: by Kalada Health from One Bills Drive. This is Buffalo 522 00:25:49,200 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back in One Goals Live. I'm John Murphy. 523 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: Chris Brown is in Bills Insider from Buffalo Bills dot 524 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: Com replacing Steve Chanscurt to day. Steve should be back 525 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: on Monday. Welcome to the show. Which team is most 526 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: ready more ready to compete for a wildcard spot from 527 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: the AFC East The Jets of the Bills. We left 528 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: the Dolphins out. We left the Patriots out for obvious reasons. 529 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 1: You may have other thoughts on that. Give us a call. 530 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: Eight oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight 531 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty called from Los Angeles. Patrick 532 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Yeah, we got all right, I Patrick, 533 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: welcome to start out there. Great, thank you. I just 534 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: wanted to chat about the college m situation. I feel 535 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: like that there's a way that they could They should 536 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: be moving the gate receipt and the merchandise at least 537 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: parcel percentages, maybe into some kind of trust or you know, 538 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: some kind of way, because the compensation isn't equal to 539 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: the output. They're selling tickets, it's t shirts, merchandise, and 540 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: the athletes aren't being compensated. I'd be up for that. Um, 541 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: I like the idea of it. Yes, what do you 542 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: think of that? Murph? Yeah, that's interesting too. But let 543 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: me why do you just do gate receipts and merchandise? Patrick, Well, 544 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: that's to me, that's the biggest thing. It's like, I 545 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: work in the music industry, and you know, the two 546 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: biggest ways that people actually make revenue are you know, 547 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: off of their likeness, the merchandise and um, you know, 548 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: the appearances being you know, tickets and these If you 549 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: look at the UH, four of the five largest stadiums 550 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 1: in the entire world are UM college football stadiums. You know, 551 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: it's like LSU, Alabama and on the other ones, but 552 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: it's UM. It's the tickets and t shirts game and 553 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: these kids their likeness is being used. It's not the 554 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: coaches that are selling the tickets, and it's not the legacies. 555 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: It's the excitement that the players generate. It's the act 556 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: on the field. Most of the money, Yeah, TVs were 557 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: most money comes from it. Just don't know why you 558 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: would leave that out, Patrick, see that. Yeah, it's well, 559 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 1: it's definitely their likeness though, that's selling the media right, 560 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That goes to the likeness. 561 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: But anyways, I'll leave you with that. But I feel 562 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: like that there's positive, proactive ways to not steal from 563 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: the athletes. There's plenty of ways to split the revenue 564 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: and that I think that it doesn't need to be 565 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: an equal like more like a communist kind of funding. 566 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: But it's like, hey, the places that sell more tickets 567 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: and sell more t shirts, those athletes should get a 568 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: tiny bit more. We figure it like, there should be 569 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: a you know, several meetings. It could take a while, 570 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: but this is something that can be done. I agree. 571 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: Do it on a sliding scale maybe forward. Yeah, well 572 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: the college is the conferences that sell more tickets and 573 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: get the more TV revenue, they get more money, so 574 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: you could share. Yeah, you could kind of parcel that 575 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: out the players. I think you're right, there's ways to 576 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: figure this out. Oh yeah, we're smart enough. Anyways, I 577 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: think the Bills are gonna end up making the playoffs. 578 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: I think the AFC East is going to be strong. 579 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: But really love what being has done this soft season. 580 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: Go Bill. Thanks Patrick all the way from Los Angeles. 581 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: Patrick on the line with us, We're gonna Gears a 582 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: little bit here. We got a guest on the line. 583 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: He just signed with the Buffalo Bills last week last Saturday, 584 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: offensive lineman in his six year in the NFL. Happy 585 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: to have la Adrian Waddle on the line with us 586 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 1: Lee Adrian, John Murphy and Chris Brown back here at 587 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: one Bills right where you calling us from? Adrian? Where 588 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: do you spend your off season these days? Right now? 589 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm in Michigan right now, I'm friend of time some 590 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: family right now, so we're out there with family hanging out. 591 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: You've been in New England for a couple of years, 592 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: and I understand from Twitter you actually spent some time 593 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: in this area. What a Niagara Falls? After the Super 594 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: Bowl victory by the Patriots this year, Yeah, we decided, 595 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, on the way over to Michigan, we stopped 596 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: in Niagara. See Niagara, I haven't seen that before, and uh, 597 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, we spent some time around the city and 598 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: then we headed over Toronto and then heading over to Michigan. 599 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: What do you think of Niagara Falls? Was cool? You know, 600 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: it's definitely a We went in February, so obviously it 601 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: was really cold, and yeah, you know, but I think 602 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: I think, you know, seeing the falls, you know, with 603 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: all the winter wonderland kind of look, you know, that 604 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: was kind of cool. It is cool. I'll tell you 605 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: a little story. I went the week after the Bill 606 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: season ended early January. My wife and I spent a night. 607 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: We live, you know, fifteen minutes from here. We spent 608 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: the night in Niagara Falls in the middle of the winter. 609 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: It was January, it was cold, but it's spectacular. I mean, 610 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: I think we do take it for granted here. You 611 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: probably did not take it for granted when you saw it. 612 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: You'd never seen anymore, right, right, I've never seen, you know, 613 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: anything kind of like that. You know, I like to 614 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: kind of you know, travel and see different things. And 615 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, being from a little town of Texas, you know, 616 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: I haven't seen a whole lot. And I'm and from 617 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: what we can see on Twitter, your wife was pretty 618 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: pumped about it too. I mean, Shelby is kind of 619 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: active on Twitter. I think she's pretty happy about coming 620 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: to Buffalo too. I mean, she might be more excited 621 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: than you are based on some of her reaction there. 622 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: Can you just uh shed some light on the missus 623 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: and why what's got her so pumped? You know this 624 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: a little change of scenery, you know, a new opportunity. 625 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: You know, she she realizes how big this opportunity is 626 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: for me, for us, you know, for our families, and 627 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: you know we're excited about it. You know, we're excited 628 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: about the change, and we're excited about what lies ahead. 629 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: La Adrian wattle Bill's offensive linement is our guests on 630 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: the line of us right now. You mentioned small town 631 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: in Texas. Is at Columbus, Texas your hometown, Little Adrian, Yes, sir, Columbus, Texas. 632 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 1: What's that like there? And what part of Texas is that? Uh? 633 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: Columbus is a little town about an hour west of Houston. 634 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: If you take you know anything about the row systems 635 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: out and there, if you take High ten west, yep, 636 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: you go through you go through Columbus before about halfway 637 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 1: before you get the Sanitario. Okay, Okay, I got your 638 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: But you'll pass through it in a blink of eye. Now, 639 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: So that's all about probably four thousand people now, okay, 640 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: and texactly you know off the radar, Texas Tech was 641 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: your choice of a college. How did you wind up there? Uh? 642 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: You know, honestly, coming out, I didn't have a lot 643 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: of offers. For me. It really came down, you know, 644 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: staying close to home and going in the U of 645 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: eighth or kind of you know, getting away from home 646 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: and you know, playing in a big twel school at 647 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: Texas Tech. And that's the decision I made, and I 648 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: thought that was best for me. Were looking pretty good 649 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: in the tournament. I mean a lot of people are 650 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: high on them. I don't know if you've got your 651 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: ear to the ground on what the basketball teams doing, 652 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: but I mean they had a darn good season. Are 653 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: you keeping an eye on the end or no? Oh? Yeah, 654 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: I mean I paid a lot of teams in last year. 655 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: You know, last season they played some Kinnament games that 656 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: were actually in Dallas, so I got to go to 657 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: that and that was pretty cool. Oh nice, and yeah, 658 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: and you know, them boys really turned the program around. 659 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: You know, that's credit to the coach and credit to 660 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: those guys who're working their tails off. And you know, 661 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: they've been really impressed with a watch. You know, it's 662 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: been a great run they've been off. Your Your NFL 663 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: career started with the Lions as an undrafted rookie back 664 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. Tell you about that process. And what 665 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: that was like. You're a couple of years with the 666 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. Oh well, you know obviously the whole advrafted 667 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: thing that was disappointing. You know, I felt like I 668 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: should have been taken you know somewhere, not exactly where, 669 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: but you know, someone should I felt like someone should 670 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: have pulled the trigger. And yeah, you know, took a shot, 671 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: took a chance on me. You know, I made a 672 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: disloguan in the NFL. You know a lot of guys 673 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: still aren't around from third teams, so you know, I 674 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: think that kind of speaks for myself. And then you know, 675 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: just being with Detroit, you know, I saw it as 676 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: a good fit. I had met the old line previous 677 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: old line coach before. You know, I felt good about 678 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: the situation, and I just came in and busting my tail. 679 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: And about halfway through the season I ended up starting, 680 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: and you know, they just kind of kept me in there. 681 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: You know, I was playing so good and they kind 682 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: of roll with the hot hand. How how difficult was 683 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: it to kind of go from getting an opportunity like 684 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: that so early in your career and you know, performing 685 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: to then you know, going to New England and you know, 686 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: you're kind of in, you're out, You're in, you're out. 687 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: How what was that like, you know, from a preparation 688 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: standpoint alone, I don't I don't think the preparation changed 689 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: too much. You know, it was you know, obviously, you know, 690 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: being kind of the swing tackle in New England, you know, 691 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: you'd never know when you were going to go in. 692 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: You didn't know which side you were going to be on, 693 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: so you kind of had to prepare a little more, 694 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: i'd say, but you know, it was kind of it 695 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: was a humbling experience. Man. It kind of you know, 696 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: brought me back down to earth, you know, kind of 697 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: made me refocus and you know, look at how I 698 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 1: approached the game and you know what I do as 699 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: far as you know, taking care of my body and 700 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: getting ready to go from a mental styepoint and just 701 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, really getting back to good fundamentals and you know, 702 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: having you know, mental and physical toughness. You really didn't 703 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: have much downtime in between your stint with the Lions 704 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: and then being claimed by the Patriots. You were claimed 705 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: the day after you got cut by Detroit, right back 706 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: in December a couple of years ago. Yeah. Yeah, the 707 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: next day I was over in New England and then 708 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: actually two weeks later I ended up starting or not starting, 709 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: but I ended up having to play in the game. Hey, 710 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: in your time in Detroit, Bobby Johnson was the assistant 711 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: offensive line coach for the Lions, now the hand offensive 712 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: line coach here. How much of a factor was he 713 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 1: in getting you here to Buffalo? Playing for him, having 714 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: familiarity with him? What did that mean as far as 715 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: your decision to play here with the Bills. I think it. 716 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's factored in a little bit. You know, 717 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: me and Bob you have a great relay relationship, and 718 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, I have a great relationship with have to 719 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: the assistant on line coach, and you know, uh, you 720 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: know day bowls over here too. He's an OC. I've 721 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: worked with him over in New England. So you don't 722 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: have a good relationship with those guys, and you know, 723 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: it's always nice to you know, have some some kind 724 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: of familiarity, you know, and with a little change of scenery. Yeah, 725 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: so that definitely played into it. You know, me and 726 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: those guys are real cool and I look forward to 727 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: working with him. I want to ask you about one 728 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: of your Patriots coaches, a guy that is he's notable. 729 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: Uh Dante Scarnetia, who's assistant head coach and the offensive 730 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: line coach. I think he took a leave of absence 731 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: or something for a year or two. But what makes 732 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: him different, what makes him one of the better offensive 733 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: line coaches we hear about him in the NFL. I 734 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: think he does a great job of, you know, day 735 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: in and day out, getting the most out of everybody. 736 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 1: You know, he's not a big role rod guy, but 737 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: you know he's honest with you. He's upfront with you, 738 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: and you know when you come to him with problems, 739 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: he'll he'll always give you a solution. And uh, you know, 740 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: he really harps on the fundamentals and no, he helps 741 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: to bring out the you know, best best football player 742 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: in you. You know, he's definitely helped me, uh you 743 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: know improve over these last you know four years I've 744 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: been there, and uh, you know, it's been a blessing 745 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: to work with a guy like that. I know that 746 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 1: coaching staff values having, you know, players with a high 747 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: football IQ. And the story that I read about you 748 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: from back in high school when you were helping run 749 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: the huddle with the young high school quarterback that was 750 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: playing with you guys is kind of fascinating because you 751 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: don't hear that very often. How unique was that for 752 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: you when you know your coach approached you and said, hey, 753 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: you want to take calls in from the sideline. And 754 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean you weren't just running the huddle, you're running 755 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: the line, You're helping the quarterback with the call. I mean, 756 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: can you just kind of map all that out and 757 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: how how it struck you when it was first presented 758 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: to you as an opportunity. Uh, you know, kind of 759 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: how we did things in high school. We kind of 760 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: signaled into formations and then you know, somebody run to 761 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: play in and you know, we had a younger quarterback 762 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: who was kind of you know, he was a young 763 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: guy and you know, kind of wanted to take some 764 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: of that some of that pressure off of him. You know, 765 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: I kind of always yelled out the formations, uh, and 766 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: kind of just you know, kind of trying to keep 767 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: keep the hud online and kind of trying to keep 768 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: guys locked in. You know, I didn't think it was 769 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: a big deal at the time, but you know, apparently 770 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: I guess it was. And you know, I was just 771 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: trying to play football and help my teammates out. That's all. 772 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: That's all I thought it was, honestly, but developed, I mean, 773 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: developing that kind of all encompassing mindset I had to. 774 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: I have to imagine that kind of put you on 775 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: a fast track in terms of, you know, getting deeper 776 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: into the xs and owes as you advanced in your 777 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: football career, whether it was college or even now right right, Yeah, 778 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: I just you know, I like I like to be involved, 779 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: you know, I like to see the big picture, you know, 780 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: I like to I like to pay attention to you know, 781 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: what rouse guys are running, you know what the backs 782 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: are thinking. And you know, I just think, you know, 783 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: being being a player on the team where you know 784 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: all guys all, you know, all eleven guys got to 785 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 1: work together to get stuff done. I think that's important, 786 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: you know. You know, obviously I have my job and 787 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: I have to do what I have to do. But 788 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: you know, just just being aware of what guys have 789 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: to do and you know what their responsibilities are. I 790 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: think it. You know, it does nothing but benefit any everyone. Well, 791 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: Adrian super Bowl experience with New England did that make 792 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: it difficult to leave? And what did you take from 793 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: being in those Super Bowls with the Patriots. I mean 794 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: the Super Bowls. That's that's you know, the pinnacle of 795 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: the sport. Man, that's that's that's why you play, man. 796 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: You played to you know, get a chance to play 797 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: in that game, and you know, when you get there, 798 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: you hope you do enough to win. You know, we 799 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: won two, we lost one. Uh, it was a blessing 800 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: to be be there for all three and you know, 801 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: it was definitely uh, you know, I definitely think you know, 802 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: coming to the Bills, you know, part of part of 803 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: easing that kind of decision for me, it was, you know, 804 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: seeing how the Bills have been progressing, seeing seeing the 805 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 1: things they've been doing. You know, being in New England, 806 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: we played them all the time, so we kind of 807 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 1: understand how they work. And you know, I always appreciated 808 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: how those guys over their work and you know, how 809 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: hard they played, and you know that's something I kind 810 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: of take fight in. So I figured it was a 811 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: great fit. You also mentioned, you know, you mentioned already 812 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: some of the familiarity you here have here with the 813 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: coaches that you've worked with in the past. Sliding you know, 814 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: to the other team in the division, I mean, you 815 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: have a familiarity with a lot of these teams that 816 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: you're going to be facing twice a year. How much 817 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: does how much does that help with the transition knowing 818 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: the players you'll be lining up with are all new. Uh, Well, 819 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: you know each year, you know, every team changes. You know, 820 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: guys come in, guys come out, and you know that's 821 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: just how it roles. You know, there's roster turnover. But 822 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, to some extent, there's that 823 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: familiarity with the other teams and you know, definitely familiarity 824 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: with how things working New England and those guys. But 825 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: you know that that could do none but benefit you know, 826 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: I'll do my best to try to help everybody be 827 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: ready to roll and try to try to give my 828 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: perspective on what I see from you know, each guy 829 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: or each team, and you know, just try to help 830 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: the team out as much as I can Leadrian, you're 831 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: one of five new offensive lineman veteran NFL players signed 832 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 1: by this Bill's roster over the last couple of weeks. 833 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: What do you think they have in mind for you? 834 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: What did they tell you about your your possible role 835 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,479 Speaker 1: here with the Buffalo Bills? Oh, you know, that's something 836 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: that's not defined until you know, we really can put 837 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: the pads on and training camp and you know, play football. 838 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: You know, all spring it's more team bonding and you know, 839 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: getting physically right and you know kind of just um 840 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: getting used to the system and you know how things 841 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,959 Speaker 1: work over here. But uh, you know, come fall camp, 842 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: you know that's when things will be decided and you 843 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: know that will be all predicated on how well I 844 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: perform and how things work out. You know, I don't 845 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: think anything's set in stone. I don't think anybody's uh, 846 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: you know, a set starter. And uh, you know, I'm 847 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: gonna just come out and you know, do my thing, 848 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: and you know, we'll see what we end up. Knowing 849 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: the success that you've enjoyed, you know in your career, 850 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: you know, with a couple of rings on your finger. 851 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: You have to know that those questions are going to 852 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: be coming in the locker room, Hey what does it 853 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: take to get there? What do we have to do 854 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: to kind of get over the hump and be a 855 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,479 Speaker 1: team like that? Um, what's probably some of the first 856 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,959 Speaker 1: things that are going to come out of your mouth 857 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: when some of those questions might be posed to you 858 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: by your new teammates. I think one that really stood 859 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 1: out to me is just being you know, not only 860 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: physically but mentally tough. Uh. You know, the flow of 861 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 1: a football game. You know, there's these big dramatic swings, 862 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: and there's you know, there's a lot going on with 863 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, East play and East drive and just being 864 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: able to you know, come off to the sideline and 865 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: gather your thoughts and you know, talk stuff over with 866 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: your coaches and then go back out there and you know, 867 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: perform at a higher or even higher levels. Just you know, 868 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: that's what it's all about, being able to perform in 869 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: those critical situations and being able to find a way 870 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: when you need it the most. Well, lad, and you've 871 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: already spent some of your offseason vacation time here in 872 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: Western New York. You're probably looking forward to coming back 873 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks here. Huh oh, Yeah, I'm 874 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: excited to get to work. I'm actually going to be 875 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: in town Monday to you know, look at some places 876 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: and you know, start trying to figure that situation out. Okay, 877 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: good luck with that. I hope we get to meet 878 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: you then. Thanks for coming on the show with us 879 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: here today. We appreciate it, Paul, thanks for having me 880 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: la Adrian Waddle offensive lineman six six three hundred fifteen 881 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: pounder and the six year, a couple of years with 882 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: Detroit and the last four years with the New England Patriots. 883 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: Lay Adrian Waddle on the line with it. Sounds like 884 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: a good guy, sounds like a smart guy. All I'm 885 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: gonna tell you is this just selfishly as a reporter 886 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: that covers this team. Yeah. You know, we lost Eric 887 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: Wood in the locker room and from an interview and 888 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: a quote perspective, that was a loss, you know. Yeah, 889 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: And I didn't get to talk to Mitch Morris on 890 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: the phone like you guys did earlier this week. But 891 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: after talking to Tie and Sacky here in studio and 892 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: then Lee Adrian Waddle on the phone here, I am 893 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: very happy man right now. Yeah, because I have people 894 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: that I feel pretty comfortable with going to and getting answers, 895 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, with what's going on on the field. These 896 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: guys are going to be able to articulate that pretty 897 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: well just on first blush here. And that's that means 898 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: that means easier writing for me and better stories for 899 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: everybody else out there. So good on, good on Brandon 900 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: being not only from a talent standpoint, but from a 901 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: quotable standpoint. This is a major plus. I'm very head. 902 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: I was right under it was right under the money, 903 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: like like this is what we're going to be the 904 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: contract offer? And is he a good quote? Check the box, 905 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: good box. This is good stuff. Murph, this is good news. 906 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: On a Friday, Lad and Wandle on the line with us. 907 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: Chris and I coming back with more. One Bill's Live 908 00:43:44,600 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. One 909 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: back one goes live from One Bill Drive, John Murphy 910 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: and Chris Brown in four Steve Tasker today, Steves coming 911 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: back Monday, had a good conversation with le Adrian Waddle. 912 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: We got Greg Kosel coming up at one o'clock, two o'clock. 913 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about some of the NFL officiating 914 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 1: proposals that are out there. They'll be discussed and voted 915 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: on at the owners meetings, we believe next week. Hey, 916 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: before Chris was here this week Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Joe 917 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: b Joba, Scout your sports director at Channel seven WWWTV 918 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: and Buffalo was here. We went through the draft. That's 919 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: his um Wheelhouse. Joe had his first mock draft that 920 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: came out on wwwtv dot com the other day, Worth 921 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: mentioning he's got and he's got Kyler Murray going number 922 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: one overall at Arizona. He's got Quinn and Williams defensive 923 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 1: tackle Alabama, number two to San Francisco. The Jets get 924 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa edge rusher, the Raiders get Josh Allen edge 925 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: rusher from Kentucky. Down the line they go, you get 926 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: to well, I should mention seven because Christal kill me 927 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: if I don't dk Metcalf from Old Miss Jacksonville. Montes 928 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: sweat goes right before the Bills number eight to the Lions. 929 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: And then Joe b has Ed Oliver defensive tackle from 930 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: Houston going to the Buffalo Bills at number nine. And 931 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: just to quote Joe from his post, this pair is 932 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: gaining steam. And for good reason. Brendan Beambe's pass rushers, 933 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: both from the edge in the interior to be premium positions. 934 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: The Bills do not have currently a player at this 935 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: position of starting caliber. I think we talked about this, Yesterdy. 936 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: I agree with that right with Jordan Phillips is the 937 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: right now. The nominal three technique on the defensive line 938 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: and insurance jump right in. Yeah, and you know the 939 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: Lions are gonna make this a very interesting situation because 940 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: they're looking for edge rush help. And I wouldn't While 941 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: I would be really happy with Ed Oliver as the 942 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: pick for Bills at nine, if there is edge rushing 943 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: talent that slips to them that you know sits higher 944 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: on the board, obviously they're going to take the edge 945 00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: rushing talent over Oliver inside. But this is this is 946 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: the kind of talent that's missing right now from the 947 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: defensive line. Even from a starting perspective. Right now, you 948 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 1: can line up Shack Lawson, Jerry Hughes, and Trent Murphy 949 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: and be okay at defensive end this year. I don't 950 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: think you can say the same thing about your three 951 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: technique defensive tackle right now. You need one there. What 952 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: do you think you said? If edge rush talent slips 953 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: so for instance, Mantes sweat if he's there at number ten, 954 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 1: I think it makes it a harder discussion. I think 955 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: so too, But the discussion isn't as easy if you 956 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I think, you know, let's 957 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: just say hypothetically that not only Kyler Murray. But somehow 958 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: Haskins finds his way, you know, into that top ten 959 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: discussion and goes in front of the Bill's pick at nine. Well, 960 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: now somebody's getting pushed down. And so if there is 961 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: an edge rush talent there that the Bills really really like, 962 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: you wonder what direction they go, especially if it's a 963 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 1: prospect that's ranked a little bit higher on their board 964 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: than Oliver. I mean, they always talk about best player available. Um, 965 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, if that would be tough, you don't expect 966 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: Bosa to be there. A good problem to have. But yeah, 967 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: Joe's got Josh Allen, the defensive end from Kentucky going 968 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: number four. I don't think Josh Allen will slip down 969 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: to nine. No, No, I don't think he does. I 970 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: kind of had him peg to the Jets all along 971 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 1: because they need an edge rusher like crazy. Now he 972 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: did have an edge rusher going to them, right, Bosa, 973 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: I think he has. I don't know if he's getting 974 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: to three. I mean, Quinn and Williams pretty good. Chris, 975 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: he's really good. Um. The Niners have drafted a lot 976 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: of dts though the last few years. Um, they got 977 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,879 Speaker 1: the kid from Oregon and there's a couple others in there. 978 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have him off the top of 979 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: my head. I just know they've gone. Yeah, Defarres Buckner. 980 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 1: Wasn't that the kid from Oregon they drafted and he 981 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: was a top five pick. And he's young. I mean 982 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: he's like twenty five twenty four. Um again, I mean, 983 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 1: if they think he's the best player on the board, 984 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 1: they're gonna take him. But they need edge rush help, 985 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 1: and I could see I could see Bosa going two 986 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: because the Niners need I mean, Niners, Jets, Raiders all 987 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: need edge rush help. It's gonna be an interesting jockeying 988 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: for position there. And then the Lions, who also need 989 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: edge rush help, are just gonna have to take the 990 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: best of what's left, which wouldn't be a terrible thing. 991 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: But I think those are your top four teams that 992 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: are really hard up for some edge rushing talent. As 993 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: far as quarterbacks, Joe's mock draft is ten Denver going 994 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: with quarterback Drew Locker Missouri, not the Ohio State quarterback Haskets. 995 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,439 Speaker 1: I found that interesting. I don't know that Drew Locke 996 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 1: merits at top ten pick. Joe thinks Rose a nice ball, 997 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: I'll say that. I mean it looks really good coming 998 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: out of his hand. He's pretty good mechanically. And we 999 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: know that John Ellie is not going to draft anybody 1000 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,399 Speaker 1: under six foot three or four because did you see 1001 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: that conversation he had. He had the conversation with an 1002 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,960 Speaker 1: NFL reporter and they asked him about Kyler Murray and 1003 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 1: he said, well, I worry about quarterbacks that are shorter, 1004 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 1: knowing they have to operate under center sometimes and in 1005 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: his own team's offense last year, and I know there's 1006 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: a turnover at coaching, but they were in the shotgun 1007 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: more than sixty end of the time. But if you 1008 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,240 Speaker 1: look at his drafting history, I mean he draft Packston 1009 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: Lynch six foot seven, he drafted Brock Osweiler six foot six. 1010 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't draft shorties, so you better and 1011 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: Haskins isn't short. I'm not saying that, but he's he 1012 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 1: goes to the tall end of the scale and stays there, right. 1013 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean he is locked in on measurables for that. Hey, um, 1014 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 1: that's Joe Biscallions mock draft. You can catch it at 1015 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: www dot com. We thank Joe for sharing that with us. 1016 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 1: He talked about it with us on the show the 1017 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: other day, and thanks Joe for coming on the other day. 1018 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: We come back. Great Cosell NFL I wish forget the 1019 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: name of the show, NFL Matchup on ESPN. He's executive 1020 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: producer in analysts. Great Cosette will be on the line 1021 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: with us when we return next hour. Come on back. 1022 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Collata Health. From One Bill's Drive. 1023 00:49:53,480 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello Hills Radio Network. Stories 1024 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: update update from One Bill's Drive. It is Day two 1025 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament, with games underway. In 1026 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: the first half in Columbus, Ohio, Iowa leads Cincinnati, I'm sorry. 1027 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 1: Cincinnati leads Iowa thirty four to twenty nine. That came 1028 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: still in the first half. And Oklahoma nine seed leads 1029 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: eight seed Ole Miss twenty nine to eighteen in the 1030 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: first half of third game. That one going on as 1031 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,959 Speaker 1: well today in the NCAA Tournament. The ub Bulls played 1032 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 1: this afternoon four o'clock. You beat the sixth seed against 1033 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: eleven seed Arizona State. You be going in is the 1034 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: highest seed by a MAC program since the field expanded 1035 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty five, obviously a matchup between current UB 1036 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: head coach Night Oates and his predecessor Bobby Hurley. The 1037 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: Bulls going to the tournament with thirty one wins, three losses. 1038 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: It's on at four o'clock today on t UNT you 1039 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: be against Arizona State? Do you be? Women in action 1040 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: in the NCAA Tournament at or thirty this afternoon. They 1041 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: are in Connecticut and stores Connecticut. They'll play seven seed 1042 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: Rutgers today at four thirty pm, the second MAC championship 1043 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: in UB women's history, making their third trip in four 1044 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: seasons to the NCAA Tournament. Buffalo Bills still auditioning free agents. 1045 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: Former Bengals sight end Jake Fisher's scheduled to work out 1046 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,280 Speaker 1: for the Bills here in Orchard Park today. According to ESPN, 1047 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: he was in Washington yesterday. Fisher is second round picked 1048 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 1: by the Bengals in twenty fifteen. Is a tackle now 1049 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 1: getting ready to move to tight end. Recruited to Oregon 1050 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: as a tight end before moving to tackle during college, 1051 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: Jake Fisher reportedly meeting with the Buffalo Bills today. The 1052 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts signed former Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Justin Houston 1053 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,919 Speaker 1: to a contract. Last night, a four time pro bowler 1054 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 1: gets a two year, twenty four million dollar deal. NFL 1055 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,240 Speaker 1: Competition Committee has released two versions of a modified expansion 1056 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,879 Speaker 1: of instant replay. Both call for a one year trial 1057 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: before any permanent decisions are made. NFL owners meeting in 1058 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: Arizona over the next couple of days to look at 1059 00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,040 Speaker 1: these proposals to expand the use of instant replay. The 1060 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 1: Buffalo Savers getting set for a three game road trip 1061 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: after practice today. It starts tomorrow night in Montreal. And 1062 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: that is the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy 1063 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: with Chris Brown. Chris is in for Steve Tasker, joining 1064 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 1: us on the line as he does every Friday. Right 1065 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 1: about this time, we were on the line with the 1066 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: executive producer and analysts of NFL Matchup on ESPN. Senior 1067 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: producer in NFL Films, Greg Cosell on the line with us. Hi, Greg, 1068 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: John Murphy and Chris here in Buffalo. Thanks for coming on, 1069 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 1: MURV Chris. How are you guys doing great? Can I 1070 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,399 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a bit of a curveball because 1071 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: we didn't talk about this before, but it struck me 1072 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,280 Speaker 1: a moment ago do you know much at all about 1073 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,399 Speaker 1: Jake Fisher, the tackles slash tight end who the Bills 1074 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 1: have in on a free agent visit today. Does that 1075 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 1: name resonate with you? Former second round pick a few 1076 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: years ago? Oh? Yeah, he was. I remember when he 1077 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: was drafted. The Bengals took a tackle in the first 1078 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: round as well, and then Fisher in the second round, 1079 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: with the intention of those guys would end up being 1080 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 1: their starting tackles as they moved forward. Neither player has 1081 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: worked out, and neither player obviously is with the Bengals. Fisher, obviously, 1082 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: he became sort of a sixth offensive lineman slash tight 1083 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: end as his career progressed. But he's certainly not a 1084 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: starting offensive tackle, or he would have been one in Cincinnati. Gotcha? 1085 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: And I want to ask you about our guests from 1086 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 1: last hour, Adrian Waddle, former Patriots and Lions offensive lineman, 1087 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 1: who the Bills signed last Saturday. What do you know 1088 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,439 Speaker 1: about him? What do you think of that signing? Great? 1089 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: I think it's a good signing, particularly for a team 1090 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: that needs offensive line help and competition. The most important 1091 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 1: thing is, you know, guys, is now competition in that 1092 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: unit because that unit struggled a year ago. It's obviously 1093 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: going to have a different look this year with a 1094 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: number of signings, and they're continuing to try to get better, 1095 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 1: which is the right thing to do. Waddles had significant 1096 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: starts at right tackle in this league. I believe he's 1097 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 1: a two time Super Bowl champion, so you know, I 1098 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: think that's a very good move to increase competition. He 1099 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 1: may end up being the starting right tackle. He had 1100 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: starts when he got the league with Detroit, and he 1101 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 1: started for the Patriots. Right. Well, I mean that's not 1102 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 1: the main reason we've got you here, Greg, as we know, 1103 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, you're poring over film here in preparation for 1104 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: the draft, which is what's six weeks awaymer from yesterday, 1105 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: five weeks from yesterday. And I'll blow I'll blow by 1106 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: the first guy that we had on our list because 1107 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 1: I know there's a self proclaimed fan of his to 1108 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: my right. Um, but uh, you know, A J. Brown 1109 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,280 Speaker 1: is an interesting receiver, um, you know, and put together 1110 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: a pretty good career, and I just I kind of 1111 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 1: feel like he's kind of getting forgotten in the conversation 1112 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 1: because all the Metcalf talk. Yeah, I mean I think 1113 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: that uh on tape. I really liked him. I actually 1114 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 1: watched him last summer from some of his twenty seventeen tape, 1115 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: and then of course I watched him within the last 1116 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,040 Speaker 1: month or so it was twenty eighteen tape. And what 1117 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: I thought was really good for him is that when 1118 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: Calf got hurt down there Is, Brown then played a 1119 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: number of snaps outside because last year he was almost 1120 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 1: exclusively a slot receiver, and he was almost exclusively a 1121 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: slot receiver through oh seven eight games of the twenty 1122 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 1: eighteen season, and then he moved outside and even played 1123 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: snaps at the X the single receiver to the boundary usually, 1124 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: And I thought he handled himself well. He's a very 1125 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 1: good route runner. There's a savvy to him. He's got 1126 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 1: very good hands. He's tough, he's got competitive toughness. He 1127 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: was a guy, Chris. The more I watched, the more 1128 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 1: I liked him. I think he'll be a quality NFL receiver. 1129 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 1: I think he'll probably play more on the slot than outside. 1130 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,359 Speaker 1: But he's I like the player. I wonder we've talked 1131 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: a lot about Metcalf on this show, Greg, and I 1132 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: wonder how much of Metcalf's I gotta say lack of production. 1133 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 1: But lack of big number production anyway, at omis has 1134 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: to do with a J. Brown on the other side. 1135 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there's only so much air in the room, right. Well, 1136 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 1: Metcalfe was hurt too, ye, Metcalf I think missed both 1137 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: his I know he missed a good part of this 1138 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 1: past season. I think he was hurt the year before 1139 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: as well. Metcalf's an interesting guy because of the just 1140 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 1: the size, speed, height. I mean he's size, he's got speed. 1141 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 1: He's two hundred and twenty eight pounds at the combine. 1142 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 1: You know, his forty yard dash was ridiculous, although a 1143 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 1: lot of his agility drills were not very good. He's 1144 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 1: very straight line, but he did run by SEC corners 1145 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,359 Speaker 1: and he ran by SEC corners often when they were 1146 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:40,239 Speaker 1: in off coverage. So he's an explosive vertical dimension. And 1147 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: you start to think of comparisons. You know, those bigger 1148 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,320 Speaker 1: guys who can run the Mike Evans, the Josh Gordon's, 1149 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: if you think back a few years to have Vincent Jackson. 1150 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 1: You start thinking of those kinds of receivers when you 1151 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: think of metcalf. But Metcalf's a little stiff and he 1152 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: needs a lot of workers, A round runner, yea. And 1153 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 1: with that in mind, like, if you're looking for instant 1154 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: impact and you're drafting high, how would you rate Metcalf 1155 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,759 Speaker 1: in comparison to Brown, who you've pretty much spelled out, 1156 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 1: has at least shown in his college career that he 1157 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 1: can do maybe a few more things than Metcalf, who 1158 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 1: some people, at least critics of his might peg as 1159 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: a one trick pony at least right now in his 1160 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 1: career coming out Well, Chris, then, I think it depends 1161 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 1: on your team and what you're looking for, because I 1162 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 1: think Brown he's played predominantly in the slot and showed 1163 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 1: he could play outside. Metcalf is an outside receiver who 1164 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: can run. So it depends what kind of receiver you 1165 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: want for your team based on all the other variables 1166 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 1: that you have on your team. So they're they're different 1167 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: kinds of players. That's why it's always hard for me, 1168 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: and people who know me know this, it's hard for 1169 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 1: me to make lists because it's very hard to compare 1170 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: players who will fill different roles as you project them 1171 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: to the NFL. Hey, Greg, how much going to get 1172 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 1: back to some of these individual receivers in a minute? Here, 1173 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 1: but do all of them most of them need significant 1174 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: development time. In other words, do we expect much out 1175 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 1: of rookie receivers or, like Metcalf, do they have things 1176 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: that they're really going to have to work on to 1177 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: get to the top level of NFL talent? Well, I 1178 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 1: think Murphy as a general rule, they all need work. 1179 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 1: There's a huge difference between college and the NFL. Some 1180 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 1: are more refined than others. I think Brown has a 1181 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 1: certain route running savvy that I think will serve him 1182 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: well early on. Metcalf is more of a one trick 1183 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 1: pony at this point. It's a good trick, but he's 1184 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 1: a one trick pony, you know. I think every player 1185 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 1: needs some kind of refinement. It's a different game. The 1186 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 1: whole symmetry of the field is different due to the 1187 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 1: hash marks. The quality of the players are different. The 1188 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 1: quality and the detail of schemes and tactics are far 1189 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 1: greater in the NFL than they are in college. So 1190 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 1: I think everybody needs work. No one comes to the 1191 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 1: NFL a finished product. Great coasell on the line with us. 1192 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 1: He's the executive producer analyst of the ESPN NFL matchup. 1193 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 1: Longtime senior producer at NFL Film. Some of these others 1194 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 1: on the list, Mark Keith Brown from Oklahoma. What do 1195 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: you make of him? What have you seen of him 1196 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 1: on tape? Graig? Now, he's an explosive guy, and you know, 1197 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: the big issue with him and then you have to 1198 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 1: decide again how you use him is that he's one 1199 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty six pounds, So he's even smaller than 1200 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 1: someone like t Y Hilton. But I think that that 1201 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 1: comparison makes sense. Hilton moves all over the formation for 1202 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. I think you'll see Brown do the 1203 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: same thing. But he's got incredible explosiveness as a vertical 1204 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 1: receiver and that's always in demand in the league. And 1205 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 1: the other thing is he ran a ton of shallow 1206 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: crossers at Oklahoma and he's got that explosive run after catch. 1207 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 1: If you hit him in stride, he can run away 1208 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 1: from the defense. We know he's not a big man. 1209 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: He may not be a volume receiver, but he's certainly 1210 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: a vertical dimension. Look you think back a few years 1211 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: when the Houston Texans drafted Will Fuller. I believe with 1212 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 1: the twenty picking the draft, vertical speed always sells it's 1213 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 1: always in demand. Looking at the guy that got a 1214 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: lot of pub out West, which was Kiel Harry. The 1215 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 1: things that stand out about him just watching some of 1216 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 1: his games this year, really good on releases, it seems. 1217 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: With his hands and then after the catch, I mean, 1218 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 1: he can do some good things out there. It seems 1219 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: whether he's running people over and there's some kind of 1220 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 1: deceptive elusiveness at times with his game. I don't know, 1221 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 1: maybe the Pac twelve doesn't know how to defend anybody. 1222 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 1: But those are some of the things that I saw. 1223 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: What did you see on tape there? Well, I think 1224 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 1: the run after catches, the strength. He's obviously big, he 1225 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 1: was just under sixty three way two twenty eight. He 1226 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 1: can jump and go up and get it. The only 1227 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 1: issue for me, and it's a big issue. And then 1228 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: now you get down to scheming with your approach, is 1229 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 1: he struggled to separate and win versus man coverage in 1230 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 1: college Chris, So now the question is is he going 1231 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 1: to separate and win versus man coverage in the NFL. 1232 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with probably, yeah. The answer would likely 1233 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 1: be no. You can help him with that with your scheme. 1234 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 1: But at the end, of the day. At some point 1235 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,840 Speaker 1: he's going to have to win. Now, I almost see 1236 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 1: him more as an inside receiver in the NFL a 1237 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: conventional slot where there's twins two receivers to one side 1238 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: and the inside slot to trips, when there's three receivers, 1239 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 1: as the innermost receiver to the trip side, I almost 1240 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 1: feel like he's better suited to do that than to 1241 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: line up as an outside receiver. Another good sized receiver. 1242 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 1: North Carolina State Kelvin Harmon a big, tall, strong guy. 1243 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 1: What have you seen of him on video? Greg? Yeah? Now, 1244 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 1: he's a guy I struggled a little bit with, and 1245 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 1: I know some people really like him. He's very tough, 1246 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 1: he's competitive. That always projects well. He's got a big body, 1247 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: he's got body control, he's got hands. I just the 1248 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: more I watched him, I thought he was very, very measured. 1249 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: I think he'll I don't think he'll be a vertical guy, 1250 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,479 Speaker 1: you know. I think maybe he's an Alshon Jeffrey type, 1251 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: which is certainly not a bad thing. But there were 1252 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 1: times I thought he was very stiff, very upright. Again, 1253 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was very fluid. He didn't run 1254 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 1: particularly well. I think he's more of a big body, toughness, 1255 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: competitiveness receiver. And like I said, if he's alshon Jeffrey, 1256 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 1: that's fine, but I don't think he's a dynamic, explosive guy. 1257 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 1: Another guy that was getting a lot of pub down 1258 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,439 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl and put together a good week 1259 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 1: was Deebo Samuel, the South Carolina kid. Now, this is 1260 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 1: a guy that probably doesn't have, you know, the measurables 1261 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 1: of some of these bigger receivers, But man, I mean 1262 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 1: this guy is dynamic. I mean he's elusive out there. 1263 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,439 Speaker 1: He almost looks like a running back at wide receiver, 1264 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: don't you think, Greg? Oh yeah. I mean he's under 1265 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 1: six feet but he weighs two fourteen and he ran well. 1266 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 1: And I mean he's got a compact build. I think 1267 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: he's got explosive trades. Chris, I think you can line 1268 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,520 Speaker 1: him up inside. I think you can line him aboutside. 1269 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 1: He's got short area quickness. I think he's got long speed, 1270 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 1: deceptive long speed. I like him. I think he's a 1271 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 1: really interesting prospect. And and guys, that's the keyword prospect. 1272 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 1: You know, we all get caught up myself including saying 1273 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,439 Speaker 1: they're great players. They're all prospects at this point because 1274 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 1: they haven't played in the league. But you know, I 1275 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 1: think that he's very good run after catch. He's got quickness, 1276 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 1: he's got alusiveness, he's got physicality, he's got power. I 1277 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 1: like Deebo Samuel as a prospect. A lot of people 1278 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 1: like jj R. Saga Whiteside from Stanford. A lot of 1279 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 1: people commend his route running ability. What do you think, Rick, Well, 1280 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 1: he's a he was almost used as a basketball player 1281 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: at times, the way he would literally box people outs 1282 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 1: and then go up and get the ball. You know, 1283 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: I think his vertical ability is a little deceptive. With 1284 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 1: his size and a stride, The question is can you 1285 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,680 Speaker 1: get on top of NFL corners. He certainly got size 1286 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: and he's got contested catchability. That's what they do. They 1287 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 1: wok him outside the numbers and he, as I said, 1288 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,320 Speaker 1: sometimes we'll just try to box out corners. The question 1289 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 1: is whether he can do that in the NFL. He's 1290 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 1: kind of a one speed guy, so you know, I'm 1291 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,800 Speaker 1: not sure about him. I think that he'll be interesting. 1292 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 1: My guess is, Murph, he will be all over people's 1293 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 1: draft boards. Yeah, it just seems greg that in this 1294 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 1: year's wide receiver class, there's a healthy number of measurable 1295 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 1: guys in terms of size, but everybody's got their pock 1296 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: marks on them, and there are even some like Miles 1297 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 1: boy Can here is a perfect example. Here's a sized 1298 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 1: kid out of Notre Dame. But I mean the word 1299 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 1: on him is raw, very raw. So you've got to 1300 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 1: make more of a projection on a kid like that, 1301 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 1: don't you. Well, I personally like Boyken more than I 1302 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 1: like our Sego Whiteside. So I mean, you know, Boykin 1303 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 1: was a guy I've watched a lot of and I 1304 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 1: think he's a really really interesting prospect. I mean, you know, 1305 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: I think that he eventually can become an X receiver 1306 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL, the boundary X. I think he works 1307 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 1: the boundary well. He makes back shoulder and contested catches. 1308 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: He's got stride length obviously guys like that. The one 1309 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 1: big issue was getting off good press coverage. He struggled 1310 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 1: with that at times. He needs work on that. And again, 1311 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 1: as I said, all these guys need work in something, 1312 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: so no one comes in polished. But I personally like 1313 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 1: Miles Boykin more than I like Oursego Whiteside. Greg. Is 1314 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 1: there a developing prototypical NFL wide receiver because Ed you 1315 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 1: mentioned there's a lot of different body types here, a 1316 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 1: lot of different styles of receiver. Is there one way 1317 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 1: that the league is going that they're going to be 1318 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 1: looking for this type of receiver in the future or 1319 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 1: is the door wide open? Well, I think everybody would 1320 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 1: tell you that big and asked it is better than 1321 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 1: small and fast, right, But there's not a lot of 1322 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,959 Speaker 1: guys who are necessarily big and fast. You know, there's 1323 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 1: not a lot of Julio Jones out there. So size 1324 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: is always a good thing, particularly since most NFL corners 1325 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 1: with some exceptions obviously, are probably in the five eleven 1326 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 1: to six one range. So you start getting six three, 1327 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,480 Speaker 1: six four receivers and you can start working the boundary 1328 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:26,880 Speaker 1: with the contested catches, the back shoulder throws. So yeah, 1329 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 1: big receivers are are always going to be in demand, 1330 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,479 Speaker 1: But then so is small and fast. Like Marquis Brown, 1331 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,680 Speaker 1: fast is always in demand as well. Because of the 1332 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 1: vertical dimension. Everybody would like to be able to cause 1333 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,480 Speaker 1: the defense to have to allocate an extra player to 1334 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 1: deal with a vertical dimension. So there's no prototype, But 1335 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, big is big is a good thing. Yeah, 1336 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 1: and last thing I have for you to do. Any 1337 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 1: of these receivers look like early rounds. We're talking, I'm 1338 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 1: talking here, looked like a possible fit for the Buffalo Bills. 1339 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 1: You know what the Bills are looking for? You know what? 1340 01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 1: You know, they signed to Beasley and Brown in free agency. 1341 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 1: Any of these guys look like they would they were 1342 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 1: Taylor made for what the Bills might provide. Yeah, I 1343 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 1: would think the Bills would be looking for some size 1344 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 1: because right now they have John Brown, Cole Beasley, and Foster, 1345 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 1: so they don't have any size. Um, So I would 1346 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 1: think that the Bills would be you know, I mean, 1347 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 1: I guess they have Za Jones as well, and he's 1348 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: he's pretty big, but um, to me, I think in 1349 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,520 Speaker 1: this particular group, I'd be anxious to see how he 1350 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: gets used. But I think they would love to get 1351 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 1: a big outside receiver. And then it depends on who 1352 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 1: you like. Um, you know, maybe they like nikkil Harry, Um, 1353 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 1: maybe they like Yeah, I don't know who they like, 1354 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 1: but I would think Murph, that they'd be looking for 1355 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 1: some size at the wide receiver position at this point. Now, 1356 01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 1: what's next for you? What position? Group? You actually you 1357 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,160 Speaker 1: don't just work on one position group at a time, right, God, no, 1358 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 1: you do every now. You know, I've sort of been 1359 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 1: working on defense now because this is a defensive draft 1360 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,320 Speaker 1: and there it's just it's it's aggravating, Murph, because you know, 1361 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 1: there's too many teams that have like seven guys on defense, 1362 01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,680 Speaker 1: and you can't watch seven guys at one time, so it's, uh, 1363 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 1: it becomes tough. Like I think Tucky had like eight 1364 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 1: defensive players at the combine. Yeah, let's tuck defense next week. 1365 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,439 Speaker 1: Let's talk maybe edge rushers next week, or even interior guys. 1366 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 1: All right, sure, I've seen a bunch. Okay, we'll talk 1367 01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,080 Speaker 1: next week. Great, thanks for this. We appreciate it. All right, guys, 1368 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thank you. Great. Go Sell the executive producer 1369 01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 1: analysts of NFL matchup on ESPN, longtime senior producer in 1370 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 1: NFL films, getting a set for the draft less than 1371 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,160 Speaker 1: five weeks away. He lives this stuff. He breathes this stuff. 1372 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it watching the same tape seven times 1373 01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,519 Speaker 1: in a row for the one guy, next guy, next guy. 1374 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 1: Oh let me watch the DT now, Oh let me 1375 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,439 Speaker 1: watch the dan Oh my god, no, just let me 1376 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,519 Speaker 1: watch two or three games, get a general assessment of 1377 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,040 Speaker 1: what the player can and cannot do, and go from there. 1378 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 1: That's you and I do that. We're called dilatants. We 1379 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: just sort of dabble in this stuff. I would go blind. 1380 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,600 Speaker 1: I swear I would lose my I sight if I 1381 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 1: did it. I would. Thanks to Great co Sell for 1382 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 1: joining us. Chris Brown is here coming back with more 1383 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,599 Speaker 1: in a moment One Bill slide presented by Kalaida Health 1384 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,360 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. 1385 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: I'll come back to the show, John Murphy. Chris Brown 1386 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 1: is in for Steve Tasker again right. Thanks to Great 1387 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 1: Cosell from NFL Matchup on the ESPN, longtime senior producer 1388 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: and NFL Films for joining us. Going through the wide 1389 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,519 Speaker 1: receiver prospects. We'll do that now. We've got what four 1390 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 1: more Fridays until the draft, so we'll get through position groups. 1391 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 1: It's funny a month ago, I would say, Chris, we're 1392 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,600 Speaker 1: all about the wide receiver corps in this draft and 1393 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,640 Speaker 1: who the Bills need, who the Bills want. And I 1394 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,000 Speaker 1: mentioned to you yesterday, I think it just changed. It 1395 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,479 Speaker 1: has changed dramatically now where we are from where we 1396 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 1: were two weeks ago, right when free agency began, right 1397 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,080 Speaker 1: as far as what the Bills needs are and what 1398 01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 1: their focus might be going into the drafting. Right. And 1399 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 1: while I think Greg is right that the Bills wouldn't 1400 01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 1: mind adding some size to their receiving corps, I don't 1401 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 1: get the sense that Brandon Bean and Sean McDermot are 1402 01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,559 Speaker 1: going to pigeonhole themselves into that specific type of receiver. 1403 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,719 Speaker 1: I think if there's a receiver that they just flat 1404 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,559 Speaker 1: out like they're gonna take him and find a place 1405 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 1: for him. But you know, size is something that could 1406 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 1: be added, because I mean, Robert Foster and Zay Jones 1407 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 1: are six two and six one. Everybody else is under that. 1408 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 1: Duke Williams is big. He's six three two twenty five, 1409 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: So there's your size. But you're talking about a CFL receiver, 1410 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:38,920 Speaker 1: and he was enormously productive up north. But we know 1411 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:40,840 Speaker 1: this is a different game down here, so we'll just 1412 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,680 Speaker 1: have to see how that plays out. And you know 1413 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,240 Speaker 1: they're I mean Deebo Samuel Man. I watched his tape 1414 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,160 Speaker 1: what was it? Early this week and I watched three 1415 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,640 Speaker 1: of his games, and he played he was the he 1416 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 1: was the playmaker for South Carolina against Clemson. If you 1417 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 1: can make play's against Clemson the way he did, I 1418 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 1: mean he came on a drag pattern across the field 1419 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 1: and then turned it up the field and he ran 1420 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 1: over the cornerback. And I'm watching him, going, this guy 1421 01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,800 Speaker 1: is like a receiver in a running back's body. Yep, he's. 1422 01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's pretty impressive. So the three games 1423 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 1: I watched to him, I mean I like him a lot. Yep. Um. 1424 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 1: He jumped out of me at the Senior Bowl, I 1425 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 1: will say that and most many times, uh, well, in 1426 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 1: his case it was because of the place he was making. 1427 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,160 Speaker 1: But his body type, Chris, I mean, he's kind of built, 1428 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: load of the ground. He's only six foot tall, he's 1429 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,800 Speaker 1: only two hundred ten pounds, but he's he's thick. But yeah, 1430 01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,360 Speaker 1: the bottom's half there. He's thick, which you're right. He 1431 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,720 Speaker 1: looks like a running back. And I thought watching him 1432 01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,800 Speaker 1: with the Senior Bowl, I thought, that's an interesting body 1433 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 1: type for a receiver. And you can see how after 1434 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 1: the catch he'd be a really valuable guy. Yeah, because 1435 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,760 Speaker 1: and not only because he's you know, load to the 1436 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 1: ground and shifty but his contact balance is so good too, 1437 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,160 Speaker 1: Like he could get you know, like you see these 1438 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,960 Speaker 1: tackles all too often, even at the NFL level, where 1439 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 1: the guys try to make that kill shot and dive 1440 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 1: in and nail a guy in the hip with a 1441 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,160 Speaker 1: shoulder pad. This is a guy that's just going to 1442 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 1: bounce three feet to the right and keep going because 1443 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 1: his contact balance is very good. Also, there's a lot 1444 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,760 Speaker 1: of things to like about Samuel. I haven't gotten to 1445 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,759 Speaker 1: too many of these other guys yet. I'm just starting 1446 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,280 Speaker 1: on the wide receivers. But I liked what I saw 1447 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 1: from him big time. Yeah, exciting place. So we'll get 1448 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,680 Speaker 1: him on some other position groups as the week's move 1449 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 1: we have as we get a little bit closer to 1450 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,719 Speaker 1: the draft. In the meantime, let's talk with you about 1451 01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,839 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills and how they are set up right now. Anyway, 1452 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,720 Speaker 1: in the afcast, that's our Twitter poll. What team which 1453 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 1: team Bills are Jets? Which team is most ready to 1454 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 1: compete for a wildcard spot? We say wildcard, we mean playoffs. Obviously, 1455 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 1: we don't want to eliminate the possibility of a division title. 1456 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 1: That could happen as well. But if you're talking Bills 1457 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,040 Speaker 1: and Jets more likely that one of those two has 1458 01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,000 Speaker 1: a chance to compete for a wild card spot. And 1459 01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:57,439 Speaker 1: on the Twitter poll, we want to know from you 1460 01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 1: which team is more likely to compete for a wildcard spot. 1461 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,960 Speaker 1: Eighty six percent of our respondents more than a thousand 1462 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 1: respondents so far say it's the Bills. Only fourteen percent 1463 01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 1: say the Jets. Give us a call let us know 1464 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 1: what you think. Eight O three five fifty toll free 1465 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,720 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty, or 1466 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,439 Speaker 1: you can ring us up eight O three oh five 1467 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,400 Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty 1468 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,800 Speaker 1: two five fifty. Plenty of phone lines open to discuss this. 1469 01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,160 Speaker 1: There's an interesting tweet that crossed our pats. We're talking 1470 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 1: with Adrian Waddle builds offensive lineman in the first hour 1471 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,280 Speaker 1: of the show, about an hour ago, just about an 1472 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,559 Speaker 1: hour ago, talking about he and his wife visiting Niagara 1473 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,719 Speaker 1: Falls right after the Super Bowl on their way to Michigan, 1474 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 1: where apparently they have some family in Michigan. His wife 1475 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,840 Speaker 1: tweeted out a couple of weeks ago how much she loved, well, 1476 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,519 Speaker 1: I guess just last week how much she loved their 1477 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,639 Speaker 1: visit to Niagara Falls and the irony of him signing 1478 01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,760 Speaker 1: here with the Buffalo Bills. Paul Deister is the long 1479 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 1: time mayor of the city of Niagara Falls, and he 1480 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,519 Speaker 1: tweeted this in Believe It or Not, Thank you La 1481 01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 1: Adrian Waddle and One Bills Live for the great plug 1482 01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,040 Speaker 1: on the beauty of Niagara Falls in winter Niagara I 1483 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,240 Speaker 1: was USA one Buffalo Bill's country, Welcome to the Bills 1484 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,880 Speaker 1: family and hashtag frozen falls what if they're still frozen? 1485 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 1: But thank you Mayor Diser for sending Nanna listening to 1486 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,160 Speaker 1: the show. Like what he heard from Adrian Waddle. How 1487 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,800 Speaker 1: about that? Have you spent much time in the falls lately? 1488 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,760 Speaker 1: It's definitely worth Yeah, I was. When was I up there? 1489 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,320 Speaker 1: I was up there a couple of months ago. I 1490 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,800 Speaker 1: also took my family up to see that that fireworks 1491 01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,000 Speaker 1: competition right around New Year's I want to say, somewhere 1492 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 1: between Christmas and New Year's they had a fireworks competition. 1493 01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 1: It was on the Canadian side, but we were watching 1494 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:39,679 Speaker 1: it from the US side and it was pretty entertaining. 1495 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,760 Speaker 1: You know. It was peculiar that the US did not 1496 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:47,519 Speaker 1: field a team to compete, so it was interesting. You know, 1497 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,439 Speaker 1: it's like Japan and China and Italy and like Canada 1498 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,840 Speaker 1: and a few other countries. But it was a good show. 1499 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean they you know, I hate those firework shows 1500 01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:06,000 Speaker 1: where it's like one forty five second pause, one forty 1501 01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,600 Speaker 1: five second. I mean I want to show yeah. I 1502 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 1: mean I grew up down States, so I used to 1503 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,479 Speaker 1: go by the East River and watch the fireworks show 1504 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:18,360 Speaker 1: in New York Harbor. I mean that's pretty involved. I 1505 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 1: mean it's like half hour of NonStop action. And then 1506 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,519 Speaker 1: you know, you come to some of these other fireworks 1507 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,000 Speaker 1: shows not to you know, poo poo them. I mean, 1508 01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 1: everybody's trying to do them their best, and I know 1509 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 1: some people don't have the same budget that they have 1510 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 1: down there, but we gotta get it going here. Let's 1511 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,000 Speaker 1: get some action, you know. And there was a lot 1512 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,719 Speaker 1: of action in that fireworks competition, I mean obviously because 1513 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,160 Speaker 1: they're trying to show out for whoever the heck's judging 1514 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 1: that thing. I mean, I don't know how you even 1515 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,760 Speaker 1: judge those competitions. Again, thanks to a mayor, Dister n 1516 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,000 Speaker 1: Agrifalls for a tangent there, it was okay, we need 1517 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,240 Speaker 1: tangents once in a while. Thanks to Mayor Diser for 1518 01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,600 Speaker 1: tuning into the show sending that nice tweet in And 1519 01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,280 Speaker 1: you know we didn't mention one more plug for Niagara Falls, 1520 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 1: the USA Nagrifalls, New York. The restaurants are really good 1521 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,240 Speaker 1: in that in Niagara Falls, New York, Chris, they really 1522 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 1: are much better than the chain restaurants that are all 1523 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,559 Speaker 1: over Naga Falls, Canada. You know you can find really good, 1524 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 1: authentic local restaurants in Nagerfalls, New York. I would agree 1525 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:10,759 Speaker 1: with you. We should have mentioned that to la Adrian. 1526 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 1: While we're not talking about restaurants, we're talking about the 1527 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,559 Speaker 1: Bills and Jets. Which team is ready to compete more 1528 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 1: ready to compete for a wild card spot? Jets or Bills. 1529 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,800 Speaker 1: On the tweet sheet, we'll start with Marty Rogers. He 1530 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,639 Speaker 1: tweets this in The Bills have established have an established 1531 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,840 Speaker 1: coaching staff and a culture which gives them an advantage. 1532 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,080 Speaker 1: Adding talent around Josh should pay dividends this year. I 1533 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 1: expect improving in a run game and more big plays 1534 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,600 Speaker 1: in the passing game. That's a big difference between the 1535 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:40,599 Speaker 1: Bills and the Jets. Right coach and coaching staff going 1536 01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,920 Speaker 1: into its third year here and a brand new coaching 1537 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,000 Speaker 1: staff with New York. I think that is a factor. 1538 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 1: And when you compare these two teams, yes, I would agree. 1539 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:54,599 Speaker 1: The way I look at this whole thing is who's 1540 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,080 Speaker 1: further along, you know, in terms of building this thing? 1541 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,920 Speaker 1: And we're talking about year three now under coach McDermott. 1542 01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 1: There are more pieces intact. From a coaching staff perspective. 1543 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:10,640 Speaker 1: You've got ten of eleven starters returning on defense, and 1544 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,639 Speaker 1: you can't say the same thing with respect to the Jets. 1545 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,080 Speaker 1: New head coach, new offensive system for Sam Darnold to 1546 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:21,640 Speaker 1: learn now, that's gonna take some time. And he's got 1547 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 1: a new receiving corps on top of that, you know, 1548 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,599 Speaker 1: in the form of Jamison Crowder, their new slot receiver. 1549 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 1: Bellamy's a kid they brought over from Chicago, probably gonna 1550 01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,960 Speaker 1: play a lesser role. But there are a lot more 1551 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,120 Speaker 1: elements that have to be fitted together there, at least 1552 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 1: in my opinion, than here. And I would argue, and 1553 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,280 Speaker 1: granted it's not a finished product. It's going to have 1554 01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,880 Speaker 1: to be all fit together, but I would argue that 1555 01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,640 Speaker 1: the Bill's offensive line right now looks better than the 1556 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 1: Jets offensive line, who are still searching for a bonified center. 1557 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 1: They have the young kid Jonathan Harrison, but they don't 1558 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,479 Speaker 1: have a bonified center there. So great that you got 1559 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,120 Speaker 1: Levion Bell who's blocking for them, you know what I mean? 1560 01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,080 Speaker 1: So to me, I think the Bills are further along 1561 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:09,840 Speaker 1: in their build to being a perennial contender than the Jets, 1562 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,599 Speaker 1: who I think, much like the Bills did last year, 1563 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:13,880 Speaker 1: are going to have to take a little bit of 1564 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,800 Speaker 1: a step back this year, even with the talent they 1565 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,479 Speaker 1: acquired because of the coaching changes, the scheme changes. Those 1566 01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,479 Speaker 1: all take time to implement, and when you have a 1567 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,599 Speaker 1: bunch of new players too, there's just too much change 1568 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,960 Speaker 1: there to pull it all together in a sixteen game season, 1569 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 1: I think, and the Bills are the Jets more ready 1570 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,639 Speaker 1: to compete for a wildcard spot. From the tweet sheet 1571 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,720 Speaker 1: from John Whitfield, he says, well, the Jets signed more 1572 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,880 Speaker 1: splashy free agents, the Bills signed more team culture players. 1573 01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,679 Speaker 1: And who would you rather have a coach? Gas or McDermott, 1574 01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 1: He claims John Whitfield McDermott is worth two extra wins. 1575 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of wins just to hang on the coach. 1576 01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,560 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how to quantify that. I 1577 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 1: believe good coaches can get you a couple more wins 1578 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 1: a year. I mean, what would you say Belichick is 1579 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,040 Speaker 1: worth the Patriots every year? Many? Yeah, probably two wins 1580 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,639 Speaker 1: a year. So instead of being ten six, now you're 1581 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,240 Speaker 1: twelve and four. I mean that's a big swing. That's 1582 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 1: being that goes. I mean that puts you from being 1583 01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,599 Speaker 1: in a category probably with like four or five other 1584 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 1: teams in your conference too, at the top of your 1585 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,519 Speaker 1: conference and getting home field advantage, and that you say, oh, 1586 01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,840 Speaker 1: well two games, well, when you're only playing sixteen, that's 1587 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,360 Speaker 1: pretty importantly. Good call here from Andy and Hamburg. Hello, Andy, 1588 01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:26,120 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Thank you, gentlemen. Good afternoon, Good afternoon, 1589 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 1: And I want to say that I love the Murphy 1590 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:35,519 Speaker 1: Show and it's a great show to listen to. Most 1591 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:42,000 Speaker 1: important in your show is Greg Cosell's segments. He's detailed, 1592 01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:47,040 Speaker 1: he's informative. He really knows what he's looking at. Three 1593 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 1: weeks ago, you guys were at the combine and you 1594 01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,120 Speaker 1: were talking about Metcalf and wow, Metcalf, Wow, and off 1595 01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:58,640 Speaker 1: his cuff. Coseell says, well, you just seeing Butler. And 1596 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,920 Speaker 1: when Butler's name was mentioned by Cosa, may brain one 1597 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,559 Speaker 1: on fire because the best rookie receiver we ever had 1598 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:09,320 Speaker 1: caught four touchdown passes the opening game against the Jets. Today, 1599 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:14,000 Speaker 1: I see the broadcast and I see the list of names. 1600 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,679 Speaker 1: I see Butler's name on that, and neither you John, 1601 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,120 Speaker 1: I know, Chris, you weren't there. It was Tasker who 1602 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,360 Speaker 1: was there that day. Neither of you today bothered to 1603 01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:27,679 Speaker 1: ask about that receiver. More importantly, Cose, I'll never mentioned 1604 01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,800 Speaker 1: him either. Yeah, And I mean I know I know 1605 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,960 Speaker 1: a little bit about Hiki and Butler. I've watched him, 1606 01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,760 Speaker 1: saw a couple of Big twelve games. He's you know, 1607 01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:39,719 Speaker 1: Iowa stay kid. Big tall receiver can make difficult catches 1608 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:44,439 Speaker 1: above the rim, good and contested situations. Where he has 1609 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,720 Speaker 1: an issue is where a lot of big receivers have 1610 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 1: an issue, and that's with transitioning in and out of 1611 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,200 Speaker 1: his breaks. It's very hard for tall receivers to drop 1612 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,439 Speaker 1: their weight and quickly get in and out of a break, 1613 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,160 Speaker 1: and he has that issue. Is that going to keep 1614 01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,400 Speaker 1: him from getting drafted? Obviously not, But there seemed to 1615 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,000 Speaker 1: be just in the people that I've talked to a 1616 01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,960 Speaker 1: wide range of opinions. Some people love him, some people 1617 01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:11,680 Speaker 1: have some reservations about him. I don't. I mean, if 1618 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,479 Speaker 1: you want to put a highlight reel together of his 1619 01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,680 Speaker 1: best catches and that's all you watch, you're gonna love him. 1620 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna think he can do anything on a football field. 1621 01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:23,559 Speaker 1: But there are instances where the consistency with his hands 1622 01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,800 Speaker 1: are not always there. And he's got giant hands. I 1623 01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,920 Speaker 1: think he measured over I think it was ten inches, 1624 01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,760 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit bigger for hand size. He's a 1625 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:36,360 Speaker 1: big guy, so you know where is he going. I've 1626 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:40,599 Speaker 1: seen him projected anywhere from late second to early fourth, 1627 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,040 Speaker 1: So I think that's just an indication on the wide 1628 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,880 Speaker 1: range of opinion on what heat not only what he is, 1629 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,320 Speaker 1: but what they think he can be in the NFL. 1630 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,719 Speaker 1: And I think because of that, you're gonna have thirty 1631 01:21:54,760 --> 01:22:01,080 Speaker 1: two teams potentially with very, very varying grades on him. Thanks, Andy, 1632 01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,080 Speaker 1: and I agree with you about great co Sell's contributions 1633 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,240 Speaker 1: to our show. In fact, during the last break, right 1634 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,160 Speaker 1: after we finished up with Greg, we were talking about 1635 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,000 Speaker 1: how methodical he is, how hard he works at this 1636 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,840 Speaker 1: just grinding tape. That's all he does down there at 1637 01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,040 Speaker 1: his office in New Jersey and NFL films. He's a 1638 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:17,920 Speaker 1: grinder and that's why he comes up with all those 1639 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,639 Speaker 1: good observations. Thanks for tuning in. Call here from David 1640 01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,439 Speaker 1: and Tonawana to go ahead. David, you're on the air. 1641 01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 1: Hey guys, just a question on the availability or tradeability. 1642 01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,519 Speaker 1: I was looking ahead and next year's free agent list 1643 01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:36,320 Speaker 1: and a notice named AJ Green, And what do you 1644 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 1: fit right in that X spot we need? And what's 1645 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 1: you know since he doesn't really have a history of 1646 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,240 Speaker 1: doing what New England done did trading players before their 1647 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,400 Speaker 1: concercash fires. But what do you guys think? Is this 1648 01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,040 Speaker 1: something you look at or do you kind of just 1649 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,519 Speaker 1: wait to see what you have with the competition and 1650 01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,479 Speaker 1: then worry about it next offseason. I would worry about 1651 01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,040 Speaker 1: it next offseason, consider it next off season. I think 1652 01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 1: they would rather get an affordable receiver on his rookie 1653 01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:05,439 Speaker 1: contract and have to assume a big contractor or maybe 1654 01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,080 Speaker 1: even negotiate a big contract with AJ Green. Very talented, 1655 01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,560 Speaker 1: he's not young anymore. I think they'd really have a 1656 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:12,360 Speaker 1: young guy who's more affordable. What do you think, Chris 1657 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 1: I wonder where it's gonna go because you know, next season, 1658 01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,599 Speaker 1: we're talking the twenty twenty season, that'll be his tenth 1659 01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,240 Speaker 1: year in the league. Thirty one year old guy. Uh, 1660 01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,559 Speaker 1: you know has stayed relatively healthy. I know he had 1661 01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,800 Speaker 1: a couple of injuries that put him out on the 1662 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,080 Speaker 1: last two seasons for for a time. He had that 1663 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,760 Speaker 1: hamstring injury, missed the Bills game. When did he miss 1664 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,040 Speaker 1: a Bills game? I want to say he missed a 1665 01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,760 Speaker 1: Bills game. He played one play and then went out 1666 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,160 Speaker 1: with a hamstring injury. Yeah, it was a while ago. Um, 1667 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 1: they all kind of blend together. But uh, I mean 1668 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 1: he's a dynamic player. He is. He would qualify as 1669 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,760 Speaker 1: a number one receiver and I think you could even 1670 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,920 Speaker 1: consider him that at age thirty one. Uh. You know, 1671 01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:55,720 Speaker 1: as we all know, it's going to come down to 1672 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,560 Speaker 1: money and knowing that that contract is probably gonna be 1673 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,680 Speaker 1: the last big one he signs, is he looking for 1674 01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,080 Speaker 1: what's the market value? You know, Julio Jones is about 1675 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,160 Speaker 1: to set the market here at about twenty million a 1676 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,880 Speaker 1: season for a wide receiver. And I know the Bills 1677 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,479 Speaker 1: have a ton of cap room next year, but they 1678 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,680 Speaker 1: also have a lot of the reason for that is 1679 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,759 Speaker 1: because they have a lot of contracts coming off their books. 1680 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,240 Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy, Jerry Hughes, you know players like this that 1681 01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,000 Speaker 1: are in the last year their contract that are up 1682 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:25,040 Speaker 1: near the high end of the Bill's team salary cap structure. 1683 01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 1: So you know there there are going to be other 1684 01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,320 Speaker 1: openings on the roster that are going to have to 1685 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,240 Speaker 1: be considered in addition to maybe trying to nail down 1686 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:38,400 Speaker 1: that number one receiver role that's far off in the distance. 1687 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:39,840 Speaker 1: I think it's just hard to make a call on 1688 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:43,639 Speaker 1: it now. I like aj Green though, for what it's working. 1689 01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't mind having him on my team, 1690 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,320 Speaker 1: no question. All right, thanks for your call. We're gonna 1691 01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,000 Speaker 1: take a break. Chris and I coming back. One Bill 1692 01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,519 Speaker 1: Slide from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. 1693 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, John Murphy. Chris Brown is 1694 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,559 Speaker 1: in for Steve Tasker. Steve should be back next Monday. 1695 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,360 Speaker 1: We anticipate he will be wonder if I'll hear from 1696 01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,040 Speaker 1: him before he comes back. I'm gonna go with now, Yeah, 1697 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with No. Two. Maybe I should reach 1698 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,680 Speaker 1: out to him over the weekend. Hey, coming up with 1699 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,479 Speaker 1: two ben Ostro is going to join us, editor in 1700 01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,160 Speaker 1: chief of football Zebras dot com. He's the author of 1701 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,160 Speaker 1: the book so you think you know football. He's an 1702 01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,040 Speaker 1: officiating expert, a rules expert, and we got some stuff 1703 01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:33,040 Speaker 1: to talk about. Brownie. There's the owners meeting in Arizona 1704 01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,880 Speaker 1: coming up this weekend starts Sunday, and they've got some 1705 01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 1: proposals on the table to discuss, including an expansion of replay. 1706 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,519 Speaker 1: Exactly what I did not want to see is on 1707 01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:47,240 Speaker 1: the table using replay, among other proposals, using replay to 1708 01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:51,960 Speaker 1: help officiate pass interference a direct response to the Rams 1709 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,960 Speaker 1: Saints game, right the NFC Championship game. Yeah, I don't 1710 01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,640 Speaker 1: like when replay is being introduced for judgment calls me, 1711 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,600 Speaker 1: and pass interference is a judgment call. Believe me. I 1712 01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,280 Speaker 1: get just as been out of shape about bad judgment 1713 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,120 Speaker 1: calls as the next person. But I think the bottom 1714 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:13,240 Speaker 1: line here is there's human error in officiating, and it's 1715 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,720 Speaker 1: going to happen. And as much as it sucked for 1716 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints is just as much as it 1717 01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,960 Speaker 1: sucked for the Bills in twenty fifteen. When we're over 1718 01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,559 Speaker 1: there in London and the kel Robie Coleman gets called 1719 01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,880 Speaker 1: for a past interference when he didn't even touch the guy, 1720 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,439 Speaker 1: and it leads to a first down for Jacksonville. They 1721 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,439 Speaker 1: go down the field and kick a game winning field 1722 01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,680 Speaker 1: goal or a touchdown or whatever it was. After the 1723 01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,880 Speaker 1: Bills came back from a twenty eight to three deficit 1724 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,400 Speaker 1: to take the lead thirty one twenty eight. They lose 1725 01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,960 Speaker 1: that game in horrific and depressing fashion. But you got 1726 01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,639 Speaker 1: to get over it because they're going to be bad 1727 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,559 Speaker 1: calls in every game. Yeah, so if we keep trying 1728 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,080 Speaker 1: to you know, and I believe me, I respect the 1729 01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:58,720 Speaker 1: stance of let's get everything right, but we also want 1730 01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,639 Speaker 1: to finish a game within three hours and ten minutes. 1731 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:06,240 Speaker 1: If you're gonna take a look at every pass interference call, 1732 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,800 Speaker 1: if you're gonna take a look at every spot of 1733 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:10,800 Speaker 1: the ball on fourth down, which is a proposal to 1734 01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:14,679 Speaker 1: Denver brought up. If you're gonna review every two point try, 1735 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,479 Speaker 1: if you're gonna review every scoring play that gets negated 1736 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:21,000 Speaker 1: by a penalty, I mean, you're gonna we're gonna be 1737 01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,760 Speaker 1: sitting around at five thirty four a one o'clock game 1738 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,240 Speaker 1: waiting for it to finish. I mean beyond the time element, 1739 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,080 Speaker 1: which is a factor though. I just don't want to. 1740 01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:29,479 Speaker 1: I don't want to see the league go down the 1741 01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,360 Speaker 1: rabbit hole of replay adjudicating everything, and that's where you're headed. 1742 01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,840 Speaker 1: You can't fix everything. You cannot fix everything. It won't 1743 01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,520 Speaker 1: be perfect. Now, it's important to note that the proposal 1744 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:42,120 Speaker 1: that will be discussed at the owners meetings this weekend Sunday, 1745 01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,679 Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday, I guess it'll be does not include 1746 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,320 Speaker 1: would not have fixed the Rams Saints nikel Roby Coleman 1747 01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,200 Speaker 1: pass interference call because that was a non call. Right, 1748 01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,639 Speaker 1: This does not include non calls. You can a whole 1749 01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,920 Speaker 1: another challenge a non call, which is good, but just 1750 01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,519 Speaker 1: introducing in terms of judgment calls I think is a 1751 01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:03,080 Speaker 1: mistake and we'll talk with We'll talk about it obviously 1752 01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,519 Speaker 1: the afternoon goes along. We'll talk to Ben Astro about 1753 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,240 Speaker 1: it in the next hour. I got a call on 1754 01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,519 Speaker 1: the line from Jim and East Aura. Hello, Jim, welcome 1755 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 1: to the show. Heide, guys, what are you doing today? 1756 01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 1: We're doing well, that's good. Hey, I just say one 1757 01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:22,639 Speaker 1: question in a comment Joe McDermott and Brandon Bean's contract 1758 01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:26,920 Speaker 1: or do they run consequential to each other? And also 1759 01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,320 Speaker 1: when are they do you know? When are they expire? 1760 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,439 Speaker 1: And when do you think it would be a good 1761 01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,439 Speaker 1: time to renew them? Because I just think that they extended. 1762 01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,400 Speaker 1: I should say, I just think they've both done a 1763 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,680 Speaker 1: great chap. I don't know those do you know those answers? No? 1764 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,400 Speaker 1: I want to say five. For some reason, five years 1765 01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:44,559 Speaker 1: is sticking in my head for McDermott. But I don't 1766 01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,200 Speaker 1: know the answer to that. No, and I don't two 1767 01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,120 Speaker 1: years left. I would assume they run in concert with 1768 01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,280 Speaker 1: one another. That would make a lot of sense, But 1769 01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,680 Speaker 1: I do not recall the length. I cannot remember. So 1770 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,839 Speaker 1: we can try to get to work on our various 1771 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,800 Speaker 1: sources and see if we can find an answer for you. 1772 01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:02,160 Speaker 1: But I don't know off the top of my head, 1773 01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,120 Speaker 1: I don't remember too early now to think about extensions, 1774 01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:11,960 Speaker 1: would you think, Chris, Yeah, I mean I think we 1775 01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,760 Speaker 1: can see what the two of them are building, and 1776 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:19,680 Speaker 1: all the signs are encouraging right now. I think the 1777 01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,160 Speaker 1: organization and I think Sean McDermot and Brandon Bean are 1778 01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,400 Speaker 1: ready to win this year. I mean I think that's 1779 01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,400 Speaker 1: that is the I mean, obviously the expectations you want 1780 01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,680 Speaker 1: to win every year, but with the construction of this 1781 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,439 Speaker 1: roster and the way it was going, you know, I 1782 01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,120 Speaker 1: think there are a lot of us that expected the 1783 01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,680 Speaker 1: team to take somewhat of a step back in year 1784 01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,080 Speaker 1: two after they overachieved in year one, and we saw that, 1785 01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,880 Speaker 1: you know, especially with the rookie quarterback and the juggling 1786 01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:48,040 Speaker 1: that happened there at the beginning of the season. Now, 1787 01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, with the additions you've made, hopefully with a 1788 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:55,960 Speaker 1: draft class that adds even more talent, second year quarterback 1789 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,240 Speaker 1: who's growing every week. You know, I think they're looking 1790 01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:04,120 Speaker 1: to win, compete, and be a postseason contender. They want 1791 01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,759 Speaker 1: to be there at the end and playing games in January. 1792 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:10,360 Speaker 1: I think that's where they were kind kind of seeing 1793 01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:14,679 Speaker 1: this going in year three. I think at some point 1794 01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,000 Speaker 1: in year three they're the hope is that the team 1795 01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:21,439 Speaker 1: reach reaches critical mass where they're playing consistent, winning football 1796 01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,519 Speaker 1: every single week. There's a lot to pull together here, 1797 01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,439 Speaker 1: I mean, don't make any mistake about it. You know, 1798 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,519 Speaker 1: you look at all the additions on offense, that all 1799 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,760 Speaker 1: has to be melded together in some way, shape or form, 1800 01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:36,160 Speaker 1: and preferably before you even reach mid season, which sometimes 1801 01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:39,080 Speaker 1: is easier said than done. But I think based on 1802 01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,760 Speaker 1: where they see the team going, I think if the 1803 01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:46,439 Speaker 1: results match the expectations, yeah, you're probably talking extension as 1804 01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:49,200 Speaker 1: you get close to the end of this season. We'll see. 1805 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,080 Speaker 1: What do you think seeing question? Yeah, I think you're right. 1806 01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,559 Speaker 1: I think it right now would be a little early. 1807 01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,800 Speaker 1: Let's see what this year does. They are certainly pointed 1808 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,840 Speaker 1: in the right direction, got off to a really good 1809 01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,880 Speaker 1: start with a nine win first season, and as you may, 1810 01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,479 Speaker 1: I think a certain amount of retrenchment was inevitable for 1811 01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,080 Speaker 1: that group or for this group last year, last season, 1812 01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,960 Speaker 1: and now look the moves they made last week in 1813 01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,400 Speaker 1: free agency indicate where being a McDermott think this team 1814 01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,240 Speaker 1: is and where it's headed. I mean they're ready to 1815 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,000 Speaker 1: move now, ready to get going now, ready to start 1816 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 1: winning now. And I think most of us look at 1817 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:20,960 Speaker 1: it and think, yeah, it's time. This year is the 1818 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:24,880 Speaker 1: time to start winning. I'm not saying winning super Bowls yet, 1819 01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,160 Speaker 1: but certainly winning. What do you think, call a you're 1820 01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,559 Speaker 1: still in the line with us there? Yes, Sam, well, 1821 01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,040 Speaker 1: I know this is I'm proud to be a Bills 1822 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,280 Speaker 1: fan again. I mean I don't hang my head when 1823 01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,560 Speaker 1: I talk about the building. I've been watching them a 1824 01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:41,280 Speaker 1: long time. Well that's good at step one. Thanks Jim 1825 01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,400 Speaker 1: in East Aurora. We're gonna take a break here. We're 1826 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 1: gonna talk about a fishy any when we return. You 1827 01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,680 Speaker 1: can also weigh in on our question of the day, 1828 01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,839 Speaker 1: which team builds are jets is most ready to compete 1829 01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,280 Speaker 1: for a wildcard spot this year? Give us a kind 1830 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,240 Speaker 1: of goes to Jim's question, doesn't it? Eight three fifty 1831 01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,479 Speaker 1: toll free one eight five fifty two five fifty back 1832 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,800 Speaker 1: with more One Bills Lide presented by Kalida Health from 1833 01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:15,799 Speaker 1: One Bills Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Bills Radio Network. 1834 01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:21,000 Speaker 1: Sports update comes from one Bill's Drive. The tournament continues. 1835 01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,000 Speaker 1: It is day two of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament. 1836 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,519 Speaker 1: A couple of games in progress. In the second half. 1837 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,640 Speaker 1: Seventh seed Cincinnati leads tenth seed Iowa fifty nine to 1838 01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:36,760 Speaker 1: fifty eight. Also in the second half, it is nine 1839 01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,839 Speaker 1: seed Oklahoma on top of eight seed Ole Miss sixty 1840 01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,120 Speaker 1: six forty eight. Reaction from Chris bas Over and this 1841 01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:46,120 Speaker 1: one in the first half, third seed Texas Tech leading 1842 01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:50,120 Speaker 1: fourteen seed Northern Kentucky seventeen thirteen. There's a bunch of 1843 01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,759 Speaker 1: games coming up later, including the UB Bulls. The men's 1844 01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:56,680 Speaker 1: basketball Bulls take on Arizona State four o'clock today. The 1845 01:32:56,760 --> 01:33:00,200 Speaker 1: game on t NT. The meeting will feature current be 1846 01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:03,280 Speaker 1: head coach Nate Oates against his predecessor, Bobby Hurley. We 1847 01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,519 Speaker 1: spent two years at head coach at Buffalo. You'd be 1848 01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:07,920 Speaker 1: with thirty one wins going into the tournament, tied with 1849 01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,880 Speaker 1: Houston for the best record in the nation. Arizona State 1850 01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,160 Speaker 1: got to this game by beating Saint John's Wednesday night 1851 01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,599 Speaker 1: in the first four matchup. YOUB in Arizona State tips 1852 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,160 Speaker 1: off about four o'clock today. That game on t n T. 1853 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,800 Speaker 1: The YOUB women tip off about thirty minutes later, tentatively 1854 01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:26,360 Speaker 1: scheduled there In Stores, Connecticut, the ten seed UB women 1855 01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,679 Speaker 1: played number seven seed Rutgers later this afternoon, the second 1856 01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:33,280 Speaker 1: MAC Championship team in UB history. Buffalo making its third 1857 01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:37,680 Speaker 1: trip in four seasons to the NCAA Women's basketball Championship. 1858 01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,280 Speaker 1: You're at one Bills drive a free agent visit reportedly 1859 01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:43,160 Speaker 1: tight end Jake Fishers scheduled to visit the Bills work 1860 01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,519 Speaker 1: out for the Bills today. According to ESPN, he was 1861 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,160 Speaker 1: in Washington yesterday. Second round pick of the Bengals in 1862 01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,160 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen is a tackle, now moving back to tight end. 1863 01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:55,120 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts signed former Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Justin Houston 1864 01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:57,720 Speaker 1: late yesterday. A four time Pro bowler gets a two 1865 01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,200 Speaker 1: year deal to play with Indianapolis. We're gonna talk about 1866 01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,760 Speaker 1: officiating coming up NFL's competition commitity with two versions of 1867 01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:07,200 Speaker 1: a modified expansion of instant replay that'll go before owners 1868 01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,680 Speaker 1: this weekend at the owners meetings in Arizona, and the 1869 01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo Savers head down West or head out for a 1870 01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,240 Speaker 1: three game road trip after practice today. Starts tomorrow night 1871 01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,120 Speaker 1: in Montreal. And that's the update from One Bill's Drive, 1872 01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,559 Speaker 1: John Murphy with Chris Brown. Chris is in for Steve Tasker, 1873 01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:26,000 Speaker 1: who returns on Monday talking about the NFL, about the Bills, 1874 01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:29,439 Speaker 1: and about NFL owners meeting this weekend. It starts Sunday 1875 01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,280 Speaker 1: in Arizona. Joining us on the line right now. The 1876 01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:36,720 Speaker 1: Football Zebras Editor in chief. Football Zebras a website that 1877 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,720 Speaker 1: deals with NFL officiating issues. And rules issues is the 1878 01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,120 Speaker 1: author of the book, So you think you know football? 1879 01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,040 Speaker 1: A long time guests for less good buddy of ours, 1880 01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,360 Speaker 1: Ben Astro on the line with uspend, John Murphy and 1881 01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,920 Speaker 1: Chris up here in Buffalo. Thanks for coming on. How 1882 01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,720 Speaker 1: good to be with you again. I gotta say, I 1883 01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:56,280 Speaker 1: am surprised, Ben, that they're talking at least about expanding replay. 1884 01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,040 Speaker 1: I thought, I thought the commissioner at the Super Bowl 1885 01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,120 Speaker 1: and is a day of the game's speech made a 1886 01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,719 Speaker 1: compelling argument for holding back on expanding replay. But apparently 1887 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,960 Speaker 1: that's not what the Competition committee earn. Huh. Well, in 1888 01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:11,960 Speaker 1: this case, you've had the Competition Committee pretty much holding 1889 01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:17,439 Speaker 1: back any effort to expand replay into into penalties, into 1890 01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, whether or not a fouls, and you know, 1891 01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,400 Speaker 1: with the exception of twelve men, which is you know, 1892 01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,280 Speaker 1: that's a pretty objective call to make, but anything else 1893 01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:29,160 Speaker 1: you're starting to get into a subjective area. And they've 1894 01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,519 Speaker 1: been proposals, have been dozens of proposals over the last 1895 01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:36,280 Speaker 1: five years, especially you know, teams that want to get 1896 01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, certain fouls or all fouls reviewable, and they 1897 01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:46,120 Speaker 1: keep getting declined. So when the Competition Committee comes around 1898 01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,439 Speaker 1: and suggests that, hey, maybe we'll put for one year only, 1899 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:54,320 Speaker 1: maybe we'll put past interference into that. Maybe we'll put 1900 01:35:55,720 --> 01:36:01,519 Speaker 1: roughing quarterback or defense was hitting there. When you start 1901 01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,639 Speaker 1: to see that they change their course after what twenty 1902 01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:08,439 Speaker 1: years of the challenged system that we've been under, that 1903 01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:10,920 Speaker 1: does take some notice, of course. Yeah, and as you, 1904 01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:12,760 Speaker 1: I think you tweeted it out today, or at least 1905 01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:16,439 Speaker 1: football Zebras tweeted out that they're ready to open Pandora's box. 1906 01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,160 Speaker 1: It appears right on, don't you go down this road, 1907 01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:22,200 Speaker 1: isn't it? Well, in this particular case, as we understand, 1908 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,439 Speaker 1: the way they're going to enforce this is that it 1909 01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:29,240 Speaker 1: would be to reverse a foul. So in the case 1910 01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:34,760 Speaker 1: of a long distance defensive pass interference, you have an 1911 01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,439 Speaker 1: instance where you can actually pull that back if ther look, 1912 01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,160 Speaker 1: there was no contact that was on that play, and 1913 01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,720 Speaker 1: then maybe reverse a thirty yard foul. But then in 1914 01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,960 Speaker 1: that case, what you wind up doing is you're now saying, well, 1915 01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,920 Speaker 1: as we're going to pick up a flag, why can't 1916 01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,519 Speaker 1: we put one down? Why can't we check to see 1917 01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,680 Speaker 1: if somebody moved off the line or if they were 1918 01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:58,560 Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage by half a yard and 1919 01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:02,160 Speaker 1: there's an illegal form nation or something of that nature, 1920 01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,760 Speaker 1: and we'll throw the play clock in there. So it 1921 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,120 Speaker 1: just becomes where does this stop? You? Are you just 1922 01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,519 Speaker 1: going to start looking at all of these little technical 1923 01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:14,840 Speaker 1: elements and you know, probably negate a lot of good 1924 01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:20,120 Speaker 1: plays based on whether or not could you perceive something 1925 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:23,120 Speaker 1: that could be a foul when on the field using 1926 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,880 Speaker 1: some official sense they said, well, in this case, that's 1927 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,479 Speaker 1: not a foul. Well, these and these proposals this year 1928 01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:30,960 Speaker 1: are going eight ways to Sunday. I mean, because now 1929 01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:34,320 Speaker 1: they want to add Kansas City proposed a rule to 1930 01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:38,759 Speaker 1: add review of personal fouls as plays that coaches can challenge, 1931 01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,559 Speaker 1: you know. And then Philadelphia wants to add all scoring 1932 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,120 Speaker 1: plays and turnovers that were negated by a foul on 1933 01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:49,000 Speaker 1: the play to be subject to automatic review all fourth 1934 01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:53,160 Speaker 1: down plays by Denver for proper spotting on the field. 1935 01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:56,639 Speaker 1: I mean, we do remember that there is human error 1936 01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:00,439 Speaker 1: involved in officiating, right well, and then think we've seen 1937 01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:03,479 Speaker 1: it too, So there's that. But yes, seven of the 1938 01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:08,080 Speaker 1: nine proposals that come from teams are tinkering with replay. 1939 01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:13,479 Speaker 1: And I think that because the Competition Committee has advanced 1940 01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:17,080 Speaker 1: their own proposal in the replay area. I think that 1941 01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:23,320 Speaker 1: effectively knocks out all of the other proposals because you 1942 01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:25,720 Speaker 1: can't be adding one in one area and one in 1943 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,679 Speaker 1: another area, because there could be some overlap, there could 1944 01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:32,960 Speaker 1: be some conflicting ways as to how one proposal affects 1945 01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:35,400 Speaker 1: the other. So I think it's just going to be 1946 01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:39,320 Speaker 1: the Competition Committee's proposal that has any chance, and it's 1947 01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,599 Speaker 1: possible that it does get turned down. They did pick 1948 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:46,840 Speaker 1: up one thing from a Denver's proposal, which was to 1949 01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,920 Speaker 1: replay a miss two point conversion, which I think kind 1950 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:56,000 Speaker 1: of closes a loophole because there's certain situations where you 1951 01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,320 Speaker 1: could miss a two point conversion and still have it 1952 01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:01,040 Speaker 1: under the replay official in some cases where it's not, 1953 01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:03,880 Speaker 1: And because of that, it's just easier to keep it 1954 01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,240 Speaker 1: consistent and say all two point conversions, whether they made 1955 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,479 Speaker 1: or missed, are are reviewable, and that goes under the 1956 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,880 Speaker 1: heading evolved scoring plays are immediately reviewable. Right, That's why 1957 01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:15,960 Speaker 1: that makes sense to me anyway, Ben Right, Right, So 1958 01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,840 Speaker 1: if it's a made two point conversion, it's a scoring play. 1959 01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,519 Speaker 1: If it's missed, it's not a scoring play. But if 1960 01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,240 Speaker 1: there happens to be a turnover in that now it 1961 01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:28,560 Speaker 1: becomes automatically reviewable, so it adds situations where it is 1962 01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:32,120 Speaker 1: and it isn't reviewable, And this kind of makes it consistent, 1963 01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,080 Speaker 1: especially since it is an extension of the scoring play. 1964 01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:37,560 Speaker 1: Ben Aster our guest. He is editor in chief of 1965 01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,760 Speaker 1: Football Zebras dot com. Ben, is it important to make 1966 01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,160 Speaker 1: the distinction between what the competition committee proposes and the 1967 01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:47,040 Speaker 1: various team proposals that Chris talked about a minute ago. 1968 01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,120 Speaker 1: Isn't it true that the competition committee proposals are the 1969 01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,920 Speaker 1: ones more likely to get approval from the owners? I think, 1970 01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, we did a quick look and I think 1971 01:39:56,920 --> 01:40:00,559 Speaker 1: it was over nine of the proposal that comes into 1972 01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:04,000 Speaker 1: competition committee for playing rules. There's other things with by 1973 01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:06,360 Speaker 1: laws and stuff like that, but for the playing rules, 1974 01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:10,519 Speaker 1: it's a ninety five percent approval rate for the Competition Committee, 1975 01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:15,760 Speaker 1: and it's probably less than less than ten percent for 1976 01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:19,320 Speaker 1: the teams. And a lot of these things are are 1977 01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:23,640 Speaker 1: retreads of things that have been tried before. You know, 1978 01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,240 Speaker 1: Washington's throwing in a whole bunch of things. In fact, 1979 01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:28,880 Speaker 1: there was something that actually failed last year and they're 1980 01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:33,400 Speaker 1: reinstituting it this year again. So you know, these are 1981 01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,040 Speaker 1: things that we see the same teams throwing out the 1982 01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,000 Speaker 1: similar proposals year after year and they keep getting turned down. 1983 01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,439 Speaker 1: And as far as replay, it's important to know it. 1984 01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:45,960 Speaker 1: I think also that the proposal that the Competition Committee 1985 01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:49,559 Speaker 1: has come up with to review past interference calls would 1986 01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:53,640 Speaker 1: have absolutely no application at all on a situation like 1987 01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:56,360 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Game last year because there was no call, right, 1988 01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:59,320 Speaker 1: they won't review no calls. So in that case, yeah, 1989 01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,880 Speaker 1: so we're aally think it's a knee jerk reaction to 1990 01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,720 Speaker 1: that play, but it would not be reviewable under the 1991 01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:08,080 Speaker 1: because there's no pass interference the flag. There was no 1992 01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,360 Speaker 1: helmet to helmet hit flag, so we can't review that. 1993 01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:14,400 Speaker 1: But you know, had they had they thrown the flag 1994 01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,639 Speaker 1: on that, then it would be reviewable to only pick 1995 01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,680 Speaker 1: it up. And then the third thing is is that 1996 01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:24,120 Speaker 1: the Competition Committee was told by Troy Vincent, the executive 1997 01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:28,600 Speaker 1: vice president of Football Operations, to look at the AAF's 1998 01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:32,599 Speaker 1: model of using a sky judge, this kind of position 1999 01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,040 Speaker 1: where you can kind of look over and make some 2000 01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:39,719 Speaker 1: minor correction, and the Competition Committee unanimously turned that down. 2001 01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:42,680 Speaker 1: No one was in favor of that, so you know, 2002 01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:45,639 Speaker 1: at least for another year something like that, where there's 2003 01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:49,840 Speaker 1: like a backstop, they're not in favor of that particular situation. 2004 01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,880 Speaker 1: If there's one rule that I'm hoping does pass, and 2005 01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:55,360 Speaker 1: maybe you can assess the likelihood of this been but 2006 01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,919 Speaker 1: allowing each team to have a possession in overtime regardless 2007 01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,040 Speaker 1: of whether or not the team that possesses it first 2008 01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:05,120 Speaker 1: scores a touchdown, which was an incident we saw a 2009 01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:08,280 Speaker 1: crop up in the AFC title game between Kansas City 2010 01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,840 Speaker 1: and New England where the game was over after New 2011 01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:12,599 Speaker 1: England won the coin to us went down the field 2012 01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,800 Speaker 1: and scored. What do you think is the likelihood of 2013 01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:20,280 Speaker 1: that kind of passing and getting through I think there's 2014 01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:25,200 Speaker 1: less of a move towards allowing a team to go 2015 01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:27,960 Speaker 1: down by a touchdown and giving them a second chance. 2016 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,960 Speaker 1: The field goal thing, I still even going back to, 2017 01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, you play yourself, you play your defense, and 2018 01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:40,120 Speaker 1: some of what we're hearing is that, yeah, they still 2019 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:43,400 Speaker 1: want to emphasize the defense, but give that little bit, 2020 01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, so that you don't get a fifty yard 2021 01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,479 Speaker 1: field goal. And okay, so they did pull it out, 2022 01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:54,120 Speaker 1: even though the defense did knuckle down. So I don't 2023 01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:59,160 Speaker 1: see that there's much interest in adding two guaranteed possessions 2024 01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:01,720 Speaker 1: regardless of what happens on the first one. Is that 2025 01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,799 Speaker 1: do you think that's rooted in players concern for players 2026 01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,639 Speaker 1: safety and not lengthening the game anymore, or is there 2027 01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:11,320 Speaker 1: another impetus there that's part of it. But you know, 2028 01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:15,519 Speaker 1: even today, the comments that came from Troy Vincent on 2029 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,680 Speaker 1: the conference call with reporters, he was saying, you know, 2030 01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,519 Speaker 1: you've got to play defense. So I don't think that 2031 01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:25,280 Speaker 1: the Competition Committee is really too behind us. And when 2032 01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:28,000 Speaker 1: it comes to an owner's vote, Kansas City's got to 2033 01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:29,519 Speaker 1: be the one to back if they're not going to 2034 01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:33,560 Speaker 1: get the Competition Committee to present this, so you know 2035 01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:35,760 Speaker 1: they have to do that. And they also have other 2036 01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,560 Speaker 1: parts to that same proposal that they have to do, 2037 01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:43,040 Speaker 1: one of them being a preseason overtime, which, as much 2038 01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,000 Speaker 1: as we would like to get rid of it, that 2039 01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:48,720 Speaker 1: does admit that the preseason games aren't don't count as 2040 01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:51,240 Speaker 1: much as the regular season games, and then it makes 2041 01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,120 Speaker 1: it harder to charge full price for those preseason tickets. 2042 01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:57,840 Speaker 1: It makes it follows that that proposal on overtime. It 2043 01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,240 Speaker 1: was proposed by the chiefs, you said, right, Ben, that 2044 01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,760 Speaker 1: was proposed by the key. Yeah. They almost probably felt 2045 01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,040 Speaker 1: obligated to try to do something. But well what they 2046 01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:07,960 Speaker 1: should do I guess has improve their defense exactly. Yeah. Try. 2047 01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,679 Speaker 1: There's it's important to know, too, Ben, that the numbers 2048 01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:14,040 Speaker 1: don't back up the belief that the team that wins 2049 01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:16,000 Speaker 1: the overtime coin tomes are gonna win. What did I see? 2050 01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,799 Speaker 1: Only twenty percent of overtimes have ended on the opening 2051 01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,439 Speaker 1: drive the receiving team, the team that wins the talks 2052 01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:24,200 Speaker 1: gets the ball wins forty eight percent of the time. 2053 01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,880 Speaker 1: The kickoff team ruins forty five percent of the time. 2054 01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:30,120 Speaker 1: Those numbers don't back up the belief in some quarters 2055 01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:32,519 Speaker 1: that if you lose the overtime coin tois, you're gonna 2056 01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,920 Speaker 1: lose the game, right Yeah, And and there's not very 2057 01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:37,920 Speaker 1: many you know, we we've backed it down to ten 2058 01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,800 Speaker 1: minutes of overtime in the regular season, so you know, 2059 01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,240 Speaker 1: you're you're going to get less snaps and as it is, 2060 01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,360 Speaker 1: so you know there is some urgency to move along, 2061 01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,879 Speaker 1: and you know, so you're not going to have multiple 2062 01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:54,320 Speaker 1: possessions anyway, So you know, you're you're probably going to see, 2063 01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:56,439 Speaker 1: you know, teams that are going to push in a 2064 01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:59,920 Speaker 1: little more knowing that they're probably not going to get 2065 01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:04,360 Speaker 1: the ball back. But yeah, it doesn't happen too terribly often. 2066 01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,840 Speaker 1: It still is that that that first possession is surrendered 2067 01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:11,559 Speaker 1: in some way and was not that that field goal. 2068 01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:15,679 Speaker 1: And even at that, I think since they've implemented the rule, 2069 01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there's been less than twenty of the overtimes 2070 01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:23,320 Speaker 1: that went into you know, into that extended possession because 2071 01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:27,240 Speaker 1: of the first possession. Field goal happened too often. Right now, 2072 01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm a purist and I like to go back to 2073 01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:32,200 Speaker 1: sudden death. Sure, that's me. Yeah, I've been after our 2074 01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,920 Speaker 1: guest football zebras editor in chief. There's a Denver Bronco's 2075 01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,120 Speaker 1: proposal that Chris and I were kind of bouncing around 2076 01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:39,000 Speaker 1: this morning, which I kind of like, Ben and I 2077 01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:40,800 Speaker 1: think this is what they do in the Alliance now. 2078 01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:44,439 Speaker 1: But it's it's a limited proposal for in place of 2079 01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,679 Speaker 1: an outside kick at one time a game, fourth quarter only, 2080 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,360 Speaker 1: you could run the fourth down play fourth and fifteen 2081 01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,240 Speaker 1: from your own thirty five yard line. I like that rules. Chris, 2082 01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:54,920 Speaker 1: did you tell me you like that one too. Yeah, 2083 01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't hate it. Um, I understand it's 2084 01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,920 Speaker 1: harder than ever to recover football now and on side kicks, 2085 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,640 Speaker 1: just by virtue of the fact that you you know, 2086 01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I still remember the Bobby April kamikaze play 2087 01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:09,840 Speaker 1: that he used to line up all his players behind 2088 01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,439 Speaker 1: the kicker, who would then quickly screwed up to the 2089 01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:14,280 Speaker 1: ball pooch it, and then there'd be a pile of 2090 01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,840 Speaker 1: people running to get the ball. And obviously that flew 2091 01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:18,760 Speaker 1: in the face of players safety, so they so they 2092 01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:20,920 Speaker 1: got rid of it, and I get it. But what 2093 01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,360 Speaker 1: has done, in turn is made it harder to recover 2094 01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:24,960 Speaker 1: an onside kick. I mean, you got to get the 2095 01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:26,800 Speaker 1: right bounce, you got to get the right guy with hands, 2096 01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:29,000 Speaker 1: and you gotta get a lucky bounce. And I understand 2097 01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,200 Speaker 1: that's all by chance, but it would seem to me 2098 01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:35,400 Speaker 1: that with a lot of teams pretty pretty proficient on 2099 01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:38,439 Speaker 1: offense with a good quarterback would rather take their chances 2100 01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:40,080 Speaker 1: there and get a first down on a fourth and 2101 01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:43,320 Speaker 1: fifteen situation at their own thirty five than to just 2102 01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,720 Speaker 1: kick the ball and leave it up to chance to 2103 01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,519 Speaker 1: a large degree, what what do you think the chances 2104 01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:54,080 Speaker 1: are ben about that one. I definitely think it's interesting. 2105 01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:57,320 Speaker 1: And you know, we've seen this in various ways ever 2106 01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:01,400 Speaker 1: since right Ciano that when he was the coach of 2107 01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:05,760 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and you know last year with 2108 01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:09,720 Speaker 1: the with the formation changes being even more entrenched in 2109 01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:13,240 Speaker 1: the kickoff, more restrictions as to how much of a 2110 01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:17,439 Speaker 1: running start you get. H the onside kick has really 2111 01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:22,120 Speaker 1: been constrained significantly, so you know, you get a one 2112 01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,920 Speaker 1: yard running start, it is not the same as it 2113 01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:28,759 Speaker 1: was when it was five yards, and then the players 2114 01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,360 Speaker 1: are spread out further and it must be balanced on 2115 01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:34,960 Speaker 1: opposite side for the kicker, so you know that there's 2116 01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:38,439 Speaker 1: less chance of converting it. So I do think that 2117 01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:41,519 Speaker 1: this one where they give you one one chance to 2118 01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:45,479 Speaker 1: do this per game, where you can you know, go 2119 01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:49,360 Speaker 1: for a fourth and fifteen, I think it has a possibility. 2120 01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:51,360 Speaker 1: But I mean, it just seems to be such a 2121 01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:55,120 Speaker 1: drastic change. I'm not sure that the owners have an 2122 01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:58,519 Speaker 1: appetite for making that big of a change right away. 2123 01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:02,439 Speaker 1: It probably would be something they look at, uh, you know, 2124 01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,240 Speaker 1: in preseason, maybe try it in a few games, see 2125 01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:09,200 Speaker 1: if you af games to see if if they implement 2126 01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:11,479 Speaker 1: in one of the in any of their games and 2127 01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:15,000 Speaker 1: see how that works out. Um, because even at that 2128 01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:18,240 Speaker 1: you have a penalty. Who we're looking at this, You 2129 01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,960 Speaker 1: have a penalty on that fourth and fifteen. You can't 2130 01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,639 Speaker 1: go back and say well, we'll kick it instead. You're 2131 01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:27,240 Speaker 1: you're now fourth and twenty five, fourth and thirty, whatever 2132 01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:30,000 Speaker 1: it is, unless it's past interference and they pass that 2133 01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:32,400 Speaker 1: rule to review past interference, and then you can do 2134 01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,599 Speaker 1: that and review that and then bang you get another 2135 01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:40,880 Speaker 1: play again. Oh my yeah, right, I'm the fast interference thing, 2136 01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:43,800 Speaker 1: ben Um. It's important to owning you pointed out it's 2137 01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:46,760 Speaker 1: a it's a one it's on paper. It's a one 2138 01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:50,720 Speaker 1: year experiment. Typically those turn in those are become the 2139 01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:52,640 Speaker 1: rule right after a while. I think it's going to 2140 01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,000 Speaker 1: happen this year with kickoff rules, right though, if they 2141 01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:56,960 Speaker 1: experiment with something for a year, the chances are they're 2142 01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:00,880 Speaker 1: going to keep that. Right, it happens. There's sometimes where 2143 01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:05,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. There was the most recent one that 2144 01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:07,160 Speaker 1: I can remember off the top of my head, was 2145 01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:11,120 Speaker 1: a proposal for the opening the roof at halftime on 2146 01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:14,280 Speaker 1: a retractable roof stadium. They tried it for one year 2147 01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:16,439 Speaker 1: and said, now you know, we're not going to We're 2148 01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:19,720 Speaker 1: not going to continue this. So it does happen, you know, 2149 01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:22,800 Speaker 1: or the first generation of replay was only done and 2150 01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:27,960 Speaker 1: one year increments and eventually that didn't pass. So it's 2151 01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:30,599 Speaker 1: not a done deal. But a lot of times, once 2152 01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,320 Speaker 1: they try this out and if it goes the way 2153 01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:36,080 Speaker 1: that they had written it up on paper, which it 2154 01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:40,720 Speaker 1: usually does, then then that becomes a permanent change. Yeah. 2155 01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:42,960 Speaker 1: And one more question I have for you, Ben. If 2156 01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:45,600 Speaker 1: this I start to think, you know, because it's a 2157 01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:48,760 Speaker 1: competition committee proposal, because it's you know, scaled down to 2158 01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:50,960 Speaker 1: one year at least on a trial basis, I think 2159 01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:55,400 Speaker 1: about you know, the Bill Polian always talks about unintended consequences. 2160 01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:59,320 Speaker 1: Do you think making replay or making passer defance reviewable 2161 01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:03,000 Speaker 1: lead to more flags being thrown? If the official thinks, 2162 01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:05,920 Speaker 1: see that's close, there's some contact there, I'm gonna throw 2163 01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,840 Speaker 1: the flag and let somebody else decide this, knowing that 2164 01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:12,360 Speaker 1: they can't do that for a none ball. If yeah, 2165 01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:15,320 Speaker 1: if they don't, you can't you can't review a no call. 2166 01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:17,000 Speaker 1: So if there's any doubt, they might just throw the 2167 01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:20,040 Speaker 1: flag right, let somebody else pick it. And and that 2168 01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:23,320 Speaker 1: certainly doesn't come into the equation because you do have 2169 01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:27,960 Speaker 1: situations where you know, are you're going to rule towards score, 2170 01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,479 Speaker 1: no score, you're going to give a team a cheap score. 2171 01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:32,800 Speaker 1: You know you're gonna you're gonna say, all right, well 2172 01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:37,640 Speaker 1: we'll let this run to its conclusion because it is 2173 01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:40,599 Speaker 1: in that gray area and I don't have the best 2174 01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:43,799 Speaker 1: look on that, and so you know, you would default 2175 01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:46,560 Speaker 1: to a position where you know this is this is 2176 01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:50,880 Speaker 1: recoverable and replay or in this particular case, where you know, 2177 01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:53,439 Speaker 1: if the flag is down, then it certainly can be 2178 01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:55,880 Speaker 1: picked up. And so then what you do is you 2179 01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:59,600 Speaker 1: wind up broadening what what pass interference becomes, you know, 2180 01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:02,960 Speaker 1: what raw as the flag. And I think that in 2181 01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,559 Speaker 1: the championship game, we saw that eased up a little 2182 01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:08,360 Speaker 1: bit because we saw two you know, the big call, 2183 01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:10,400 Speaker 1: But then there was also one earlier in the game 2184 01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,439 Speaker 1: where you know, we were expecting to see a flag 2185 01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:16,080 Speaker 1: and it wasn't. So that tends to lead to a 2186 01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:21,200 Speaker 1: consistency to back off of passing experience. So that is 2187 01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:24,759 Speaker 1: certainly something that's been bounced around in the Competition Committee 2188 01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:26,800 Speaker 1: and I'm sure the owners are going to say, well, 2189 01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,240 Speaker 1: this is going to lead to more flags. And then 2190 01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:32,320 Speaker 1: when it does lead to more flags, does it lead 2191 01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:35,760 Speaker 1: to most of these? Well, it stands. And that's what 2192 01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:37,680 Speaker 1: we wind up seeing a lot of the time is 2193 01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:41,080 Speaker 1: to say, well, we'll go with what the official said 2194 01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:43,320 Speaker 1: on the field. Well the officials saying well, we'll see 2195 01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:46,080 Speaker 1: it the replay, and so it becomes a vicious circle there. 2196 01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:48,960 Speaker 1: Some of us think scoring plays go that way. Sometimes 2197 01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:51,360 Speaker 1: they call a scoring play figuring I don't know, I'm 2198 01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:53,200 Speaker 1: not sure. I'm going to let the replay decide this. 2199 01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:56,760 Speaker 1: It can when it gets that close, you know, you 2200 01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:58,439 Speaker 1: kind of just look at it and you try and 2201 01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:03,519 Speaker 1: make your sense of it, and if it's clearly not short, 2202 01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:06,640 Speaker 1: then you say, well, you know what, it looks like 2203 01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:08,479 Speaker 1: a score to me, and I'm going to go with it, 2204 01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:11,320 Speaker 1: and then you know, maybe replay has a better look 2205 01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:14,240 Speaker 1: at it. Yeah. Hey, Ben, thanks you good, Chris, I'm good, 2206 01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:16,639 Speaker 1: Thanks man, great talking with me again. How's the book going? 2207 01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:21,280 Speaker 1: Book is doing well? And I've actually started gathering from 2208 01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:25,679 Speaker 1: some notes for version two, so probably do. Yeah, thank 2209 01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,160 Speaker 1: you Ben, Good to talk to you again. Same here. 2210 01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:30,320 Speaker 1: Take care, Ben Astro is the author of the book 2211 01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,320 Speaker 1: so you think you know football, and you can find 2212 01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:36,000 Speaker 1: out information about his book at his website football zebras 2213 01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:38,320 Speaker 1: dot com. He is editor in chief of football zebros 2214 01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:40,040 Speaker 1: dot com. You know, the one thing we didn't cover 2215 01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:44,880 Speaker 1: with him was the proposal by Kansas City, which is 2216 01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:49,160 Speaker 1: proposal number eleven to add you know, I mentioned, you know, 2217 01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:53,080 Speaker 1: adding review of personal fouls as play subject to coaches 2218 01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:56,320 Speaker 1: challenges in the instant replay process. Do you know what 2219 01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:59,040 Speaker 1: that's got to be stemming from all the flags we 2220 01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:03,519 Speaker 1: saw for illegal contact with the quarterback or personal foul 2221 01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:05,680 Speaker 1: roughing the passer. I mean, how many times do we 2222 01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:08,400 Speaker 1: see that this past year where you're like, I don't 2223 01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:10,680 Speaker 1: think you hit him in the helmet at all, and 2224 01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:13,840 Speaker 1: or you know, they interpreted the guy dropped his weight 2225 01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:15,799 Speaker 1: on the quarterback as he took him to the ground. 2226 01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,680 Speaker 1: And I see that as a blatant attempt by the 2227 01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:22,640 Speaker 1: coaches to challenge that and say he didn't take him 2228 01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:24,639 Speaker 1: to the ground, that isn't a personal foul and blah, 2229 01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:27,519 Speaker 1: that isn't roughing the quarterback. I gotta believe that that's 2230 01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:31,280 Speaker 1: where that one's emanating. If you would Chris to add 2231 01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:36,040 Speaker 1: review of personal fouls called or not called on the 2232 01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:39,960 Speaker 1: field as plays subject to the coaches challenge, and they 2233 01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:42,000 Speaker 1: want to add that they want to give coaches the 2234 01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:45,400 Speaker 1: ability to challenge those plays. I think Kansas City should 2235 01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:48,559 Speaker 1: have phrased this buy Kansas City on behalf of Clay Matthews. 2236 01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:51,839 Speaker 1: But that's how it should have been phrased in its presentation. 2237 01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:53,599 Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of humor might have got it through. 2238 01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:57,400 Speaker 1: Who knows. The owners will meet Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, maybe 2239 01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:00,560 Speaker 1: a little bit Wednesday. I take in Arizona. It sounds like, 2240 01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:02,600 Speaker 1: according to Ben, according to what we've read, that the 2241 01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:07,040 Speaker 1: slight expansion of replay to include pass interference on a 2242 01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:11,720 Speaker 1: one year basis might be the most likely candidate to pass. Well, 2243 01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:13,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't look. I'm not a replay fan. 2244 01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to see any expansion of replay. As 2245 01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,120 Speaker 1: I said to Ben right at the top of the interview, 2246 01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm discouraged and a little surprised because based on what 2247 01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:24,240 Speaker 1: the commissioner said, it is what was it thursday news 2248 01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:26,560 Speaker 1: conference at the Super Bowl. I thought they'd kind of 2249 01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:28,559 Speaker 1: put this all to bed, like, hey, don't look, don't 2250 01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:31,280 Speaker 1: be looking for us to change the replay rule. We're 2251 01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:32,920 Speaker 1: not going to expand it might have been too close 2252 01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:36,280 Speaker 1: in the review mirror though, two weeks removed from that happening. 2253 01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm just a little more surprised that it doesn't sound, 2254 01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,640 Speaker 1: based on Troy Vincent's comments on the conference call this morning, 2255 01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:46,600 Speaker 1: that they're going to change the overtime stuff and give 2256 01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:48,840 Speaker 1: each team a possession regardless of what happens. But the 2257 01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:51,400 Speaker 1: team that has the ball first, you don't need that. Yeah, well, 2258 01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:54,720 Speaker 1: play defense, I understand, but you know, in a league, 2259 01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm just surprised that in the league that has skewed 2260 01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,320 Speaker 1: its rules to push scoring, would shy away from an 2261 01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:03,720 Speaker 1: opportunity to score again, do you know what I mean? 2262 01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:06,240 Speaker 1: Like back and forth kind of scoring type of deal 2263 01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:08,800 Speaker 1: that we see so often in the college overtime system, 2264 01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:11,600 Speaker 1: which you know, a lot of people say is exciting. 2265 01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:14,920 Speaker 1: And on top of that, the college game typically lasts 2266 01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:20,240 Speaker 1: far longer than a regulation NFL game just because the 2267 01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:23,600 Speaker 1: clock stops more often, there are more plays run. They 2268 01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:27,120 Speaker 1: have a longer overtime system than the NFL does. I 2269 01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:29,400 Speaker 1: don't like college overtime, do you know? I like it? 2270 01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:31,440 Speaker 1: It's exciting. I think it's you know, it's kind of 2271 01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,680 Speaker 1: people love scoring exciting. Yeah, I know, but it's not 2272 01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:37,560 Speaker 1: football anymore. You know. Field position no longer a consideration. 2273 01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:40,880 Speaker 1: Defense really not a consideration. Special teams out the window 2274 01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:43,560 Speaker 1: score football game. All right, we're gonna it's like their 2275 01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:45,800 Speaker 1: version of a shootout in hockey. Yes, I don't like it. 2276 01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't like shootout. I don't like it. Yep, a break. 2277 01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:51,400 Speaker 1: When we come back, let's talk more about Bills and Jets. 2278 01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:54,440 Speaker 1: Who's more ready to compete for a wildcard spot. We're 2279 01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:57,440 Speaker 1: getting a lot of pushback on people saying, why talking wildcard? 2280 01:55:57,760 --> 01:55:59,840 Speaker 1: I get that. We'll talk about that too. Give us 2281 01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:01,760 Speaker 1: an hour. Phone line is open the eighth three five 2282 01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:04,840 Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two 2283 01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:08,200 Speaker 1: five fifty. Chris Brown is with us One Bill's Live, 2284 01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,480 Speaker 1: presented by Collat of Hell from One Bill's Drive. This 2285 01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:25,240 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show. We 2286 01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:27,640 Speaker 1: got about a half hour left. One Bills Live from 2287 01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:30,240 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. John Murphy with Chris Brown, Bills Insider 2288 01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,920 Speaker 1: from Buffalo bills dot com. What's coming up on the website? 2289 01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:35,600 Speaker 1: What are you got going on there? Chris you got 2290 01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,480 Speaker 1: some feature stories coming up. We had one on Andre 2291 01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:43,040 Speaker 1: Roberts today, we had one the other day on what 2292 01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:44,760 Speaker 1: was the other free agent? We did a piece on 2293 01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:49,360 Speaker 1: Tyler Croft. Yeah I read that. So, Yeah, we're kind 2294 01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:51,680 Speaker 1: of making our way through a lot of the new editions. 2295 01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm writing something over the weekend. Ye. I've got a 2296 01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:57,560 Speaker 1: roster assessment coming up here because in the wake of 2297 01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,320 Speaker 1: free agency, people kind of want to know what the 2298 01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:01,200 Speaker 1: numbers are, all the positions, and we kind of make 2299 01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:04,760 Speaker 1: an assessment there and where they still have some work 2300 01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:06,840 Speaker 1: to do in terms of shaping this roster. I think 2301 01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:10,640 Speaker 1: there's about sixty five players on the roster right now. 2302 01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:14,920 Speaker 1: Obviously the offseason roster limit is ninety, so there's room 2303 01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:17,680 Speaker 1: to do some work. So we kind of like pinpoint 2304 01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:21,200 Speaker 1: based on numbers alone and a couple other factors as 2305 01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:23,400 Speaker 1: to where they might add. That'll be up tomorrow on 2306 01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:26,000 Speaker 1: the website for some weekend reading enjoyment. I'm gonna write 2307 01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:29,240 Speaker 1: something over the weekend for the website about about the 2308 01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:31,800 Speaker 1: Bills long term planning and all these free agent decisions, 2309 01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:33,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and the draft, but how 2310 01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:37,760 Speaker 1: much of the Bills approaching free agency got a lot 2311 01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:41,280 Speaker 1: of positive notice around the league. Right But as we 2312 01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:43,320 Speaker 1: pointed out, and it deals with our thing today, it's 2313 01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:45,840 Speaker 1: not because they boom they signed this guy, boom they 2314 01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:49,000 Speaker 1: signed that guy. It's how they manage their resources cap wise, 2315 01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:51,400 Speaker 1: and I think how they looked at the big picture 2316 01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:53,600 Speaker 1: long term as opposed to just trying to get better 2317 01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:57,800 Speaker 1: right away, slow build. Yeah, which gets us to today's 2318 01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,400 Speaker 1: Twitter poll. We've been talking about it all day. We 2319 01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:03,920 Speaker 1: have time to hear from you on this. Bills and Jets. 2320 01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:06,000 Speaker 1: We choose them because the Jets were very active in 2321 01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,120 Speaker 1: free agency, as were the Bills in terms of the 2322 01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:10,680 Speaker 1: number of people signed. What do you think which team 2323 01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:12,800 Speaker 1: the Bills are the Jets is more ready to compete 2324 01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:15,360 Speaker 1: for a wild card spot? Full lines open eight O 2325 01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:17,960 Speaker 1: three oh five fifty and toll free one eight eight 2326 01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:20,640 Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. A lot of good 2327 01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:24,320 Speaker 1: response on this. Most people responding to our show Bill 2328 01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:26,840 Speaker 1: Show say the Bills are more ready to compete for 2329 01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:29,920 Speaker 1: a wild card spot eighty six percent fourteen percent that's 2330 01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:32,200 Speaker 1: all say the Jets give us a call, let's talk 2331 01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:34,360 Speaker 1: about it. Eight O three five fifty and toll free 2332 01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:37,720 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty from 2333 01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:42,040 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet a couple of interesting responses. Team twenty 2334 01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:44,880 Speaker 1: two response, I'm going Bills and it's not a homer pick. 2335 01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:48,120 Speaker 1: Very similar teams in my opinion, but the biggest difference 2336 01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:50,560 Speaker 1: to me is a whole new coaching staff in New 2337 01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:53,960 Speaker 1: York versus same head coach and coordinators returning for the Bills. 2338 01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:57,120 Speaker 1: Also give a slight edge to Alan over Darnold. What 2339 01:58:57,240 --> 01:59:00,720 Speaker 1: how many people would outside of Buffalo would give an 2340 01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:03,440 Speaker 1: edge to Josh Allen over Sam Donald after the rookie year. 2341 01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:06,720 Speaker 1: It'd be close. But I have a feeling that Donald 2342 01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:08,680 Speaker 1: is held in higher esteem around the league. What do 2343 01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:11,160 Speaker 1: you think, Yeah, due in part to the fact that 2344 01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:14,240 Speaker 1: he was a more highly talented prospect with a more 2345 01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:17,920 Speaker 1: highly touted future in this league. And I think they 2346 01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:20,920 Speaker 1: felt that his mechanics were stronger, And so what does 2347 01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:22,840 Speaker 1: that translate into. I think a lot of people are 2348 01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:25,960 Speaker 1: of the opinion that he is the quarterback who's going 2349 01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:30,160 Speaker 1: to make more plays more consistently. Based on that, whether 2350 01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:33,240 Speaker 1: it's a right or a wrong assessment, that's I believe 2351 01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:37,360 Speaker 1: the general consensus around the league about Donald. So part 2352 01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:39,160 Speaker 1: of what you're saying is Donald came in with a 2353 01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:42,520 Speaker 1: better reputation exactly as a prospect than Jess exactly, and 2354 01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:44,880 Speaker 1: that starts with him. Yeah, and Josh came in and 2355 01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:51,200 Speaker 1: the general consensus on him was super talented, but raw prospect. 2356 01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:54,440 Speaker 1: Now people in Buffalo might disagree with that too, but 2357 01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:58,240 Speaker 1: that's what the talk was and probably still is to 2358 01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:02,000 Speaker 1: some degree around the league until Josh effectively and capably 2359 02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:04,080 Speaker 1: proves otherwise. And that's the next step in his game 2360 02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:06,480 Speaker 1: that he's got to take. We got an angry tweet. 2361 02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't have it angry from yesterday or the day before. 2362 02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:11,800 Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday. Somebody tweeted in included us, 2363 02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:14,840 Speaker 1: guess you and all right, let's in and the folks 2364 02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:16,840 Speaker 1: that our flagship radio stations, and why don't you guys 2365 02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:20,000 Speaker 1: talking about Josh Rosen for the Buffalo Bills now that 2366 02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:21,840 Speaker 1: it appears you might be available. All of you guys 2367 02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:23,880 Speaker 1: were all about Josh Rosen a year ago, both before 2368 02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:27,280 Speaker 1: and after the draft. Not true, some of us, I 2369 02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:29,840 Speaker 1: would include me in this camp. I thought that Josh 2370 02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:32,200 Speaker 1: Allen was a better prospect, and we're glad the Bills 2371 02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:35,360 Speaker 1: drafted Josh Allen and not Josh Rosen. But gentimate question. 2372 02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen could be available in a trade. If you 2373 02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:41,040 Speaker 1: liked him a year ago in this good quarterback class 2374 02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:45,760 Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen, don't you like him anymore after one year? Well, 2375 02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:49,200 Speaker 1: I think here's the dichotomy that you're working with. Josh 2376 02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Allen and Josh Rosen are two completely different quarterbacks. So 2377 02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,960 Speaker 1: if you're planning to build around one, I think how 2378 02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:57,480 Speaker 1: you build around them is a bit different than how 2379 02:00:57,520 --> 02:01:00,200 Speaker 1: you build around the other. I mean, Rosen's strict a 2380 02:01:00,520 --> 02:01:06,360 Speaker 1: pocket quarterback, no mobility really to speak of. Allen is 2381 02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:09,760 Speaker 1: something quite different, something a player that offers you a 2382 02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:13,960 Speaker 1: read option attack, a player that obviously can extend plays 2383 02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:19,000 Speaker 1: better than Rosen can. So what kind of running backs 2384 02:01:19,040 --> 02:01:21,200 Speaker 1: are you're drafting? Or you're drafting running backs that are 2385 02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:24,800 Speaker 1: supremely efficient in pass protection? If you have Rosen? Yes, 2386 02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:27,640 Speaker 1: is that as big a requirement or a priority in 2387 02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:30,200 Speaker 1: a running back if you have Josh Allen? Probably not, 2388 02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:33,880 Speaker 1: just because of his escapability. What kind of offensive lineman 2389 02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:35,480 Speaker 1: do you need? Do you need mobile guys? Do you 2390 02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:37,280 Speaker 1: need guys that can stand in there and grind and 2391 02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:39,840 Speaker 1: keep the pocket clean? I mean, there's a whole bunch 2392 02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:42,840 Speaker 1: of different dynamics impacted by what the skill set of 2393 02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:45,200 Speaker 1: your quarterback is. I would summend none of that changed 2394 02:01:45,320 --> 02:01:46,960 Speaker 1: in the last year. We knew that about each of 2395 02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:49,320 Speaker 1: them a year ago, didn't we right. I'm saying as 2396 02:01:49,360 --> 02:01:51,160 Speaker 1: it pertains to the Bills and the build that you're 2397 02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:53,640 Speaker 1: trying to put together here, I think it changes the 2398 02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:55,880 Speaker 1: dynamics of the type of players you're going to insert 2399 02:01:56,000 --> 02:02:00,480 Speaker 1: to put around him. Not necessarily from a wide receiver standpoint, 2400 02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:03,240 Speaker 1: because it's the quarterbacks job to deliver the football. But 2401 02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying from you know, maybe an offensive line standpoint, 2402 02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:10,240 Speaker 1: you know, and you know the guys behind him, those 2403 02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:12,440 Speaker 1: kinds of things. I think there is an impact that 2404 02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:14,400 Speaker 1: is there. And when you have two quarterbacks that are 2405 02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:19,000 Speaker 1: completely different, you know, trying to fit them both, you know, 2406 02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:20,919 Speaker 1: on the same roster. I think he's a little misguided 2407 02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:23,760 Speaker 1: which team most ready to compete for a wildcard spot, 2408 02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Jets or Bills. We've got Golden I sixty one who 2409 02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:29,360 Speaker 1: tweets this, and with johnh. Allen going into a second 2410 02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:32,240 Speaker 1: year in the system and the support we've added around him, 2411 02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:34,880 Speaker 1: we Bills are in better shape to take the next step. 2412 02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:37,720 Speaker 1: That and the questions about the how the Jets coaches 2413 02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:40,080 Speaker 1: will change their schemes this year. I think that makes 2414 02:02:40,160 --> 02:02:45,760 Speaker 1: us the better playoff contender, and one more from Builds 2415 02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:49,040 Speaker 1: Mafia House. Who's better, who's ready to compete? More ready 2416 02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:52,240 Speaker 1: to compete? Builds or Jets builds Mafia House. Answer over 2417 02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:54,560 Speaker 1: paying for a running back who's set out a year 2418 02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:57,000 Speaker 1: and was previously behind one of the best so lines 2419 02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:59,240 Speaker 1: in the game does not scream helping out a young 2420 02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:02,160 Speaker 1: quarterback to me, Yeah, there are legitimate questions. You're right 2421 02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:05,040 Speaker 1: about that Bill's Mafia House. You can ask legitimate questions 2422 02:03:05,080 --> 02:03:08,000 Speaker 1: about Levan Bell. We've asked him this week or rich Semini, 2423 02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:10,360 Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday. I said, rust, Is that 2424 02:03:10,480 --> 02:03:12,440 Speaker 1: a factor? Semini wrote it. He said, you gotta think 2425 02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:14,760 Speaker 1: there might be something there. Right, Well, it's not only rust. 2426 02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:17,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna be running behind a whole new group of people, 2427 02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:20,200 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be doing it in a different scheme. 2428 02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:24,280 Speaker 1: So I think there's a bit of a learning curve 2429 02:03:24,320 --> 02:03:26,040 Speaker 1: that's going to have to happen there, and yeah, there'll 2430 02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:28,200 Speaker 1: be some rust to knock off. Just getting i mean 2431 02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:31,040 Speaker 1: getting readjusted to the speed of the game probably takes 2432 02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:34,480 Speaker 1: a player with his experience maybe a half, you know 2433 02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:36,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. Speed of the game. Fine, he can 2434 02:03:36,520 --> 02:03:39,720 Speaker 1: get back to that pretty quickly. But he's got a 2435 02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:42,320 Speaker 1: whole new bunch of people he's got to read in 2436 02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:44,240 Speaker 1: front of him. And you know, he's known as a 2437 02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:47,240 Speaker 1: patient runner who's gonna wait. He's got to get used 2438 02:03:47,240 --> 02:03:49,360 Speaker 1: to those guys too. I think that's the same thing. 2439 02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:53,560 Speaker 1: So I agree. I think it's a wait and see 2440 02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:56,160 Speaker 1: on him. I mean, there's no denying he's a supreme 2441 02:03:56,280 --> 02:04:00,120 Speaker 1: rushing talent. But it's not gonna shock me if it 2442 02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:02,600 Speaker 1: takes him a little time to get back up to 2443 02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:05,080 Speaker 1: the level of production that he had in Pittsburgh. And 2444 02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:09,520 Speaker 1: let's not forget either that there aren't people like Juju Smith, 2445 02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:12,600 Speaker 1: Schuster and Antonio Brown stretching the field and keeping that 2446 02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:14,960 Speaker 1: extra safety out of the box for the Jets on 2447 02:04:15,120 --> 02:04:17,600 Speaker 1: offense either. I mean, Quincy and Noon was a nice receiver, 2448 02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:20,440 Speaker 1: But are you thinking Quincy and Noon or Juju or Antonio? 2449 02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even think that's a conversation. So 2450 02:04:23,200 --> 02:04:25,600 Speaker 1: you have that dynamic as well. So he's probably gonna 2451 02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:27,080 Speaker 1: be staring down the barrel of a lot of eight 2452 02:04:27,120 --> 02:04:29,960 Speaker 1: man boxes. Take a couple of phone calls here, Bob 2453 02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:32,960 Speaker 1: and West Seneca. Go ahead, Bob, you're on the air. Hey, hey, guys, 2454 02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:36,040 Speaker 1: how you doing make it? Yeah, I'm going in the 2455 02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:38,480 Speaker 1: Bills a slight edge because of the upgrade at receiving 2456 02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:41,280 Speaker 1: receiving corps with the two new guys, because I just 2457 02:04:41,320 --> 02:04:43,440 Speaker 1: feel it's going to help Josh quite a bit. And 2458 02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:46,040 Speaker 1: another thing too real quick. I was just wondering if 2459 02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:48,360 Speaker 1: any you guys got some juice with the NFL call 2460 02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:50,240 Speaker 1: and make that the final game of the season, the 2461 02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:54,000 Speaker 1: Bills versus the Jets. Finally, both of these teams get 2462 02:04:54,120 --> 02:04:56,800 Speaker 1: New England's number. They beat them once each at home. 2463 02:04:57,240 --> 02:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Now they're playing the Bills and the Jets for first 2464 02:04:59,680 --> 02:05:01,920 Speaker 1: play in the division of a game of the season. 2465 02:05:01,960 --> 02:05:05,760 Speaker 1: It'd be fun, Thanks very much. That'd be fun. Schedule 2466 02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:08,440 Speaker 1: I asked you yesterday. Schedule comes out typically what a 2467 02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:11,000 Speaker 1: week and a half before the draft usually? Yeah, So 2468 02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:14,240 Speaker 1: we're still looking at April fifteenth somewhere around there for 2469 02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:16,440 Speaker 1: the schedule. Uh. And I don't I don't have any 2470 02:05:16,520 --> 02:05:20,680 Speaker 1: juice with the NFL, Bob, so I can't. Yeah, not me. 2471 02:05:21,640 --> 02:05:23,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for your call. Let's take a call here from 2472 02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:29,000 Speaker 1: Alan and Buffalo Hello, Allan, Hey, I was going there. Okay, okay, 2473 02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:31,920 Speaker 1: My question is what are we gonna do about it? 2474 02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:38,320 Speaker 1: A backup quarterback? We're here right end? Yeah? Hello, backup 2475 02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:41,520 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Bills? Yeah, backup uarterback for the Bill. 2476 02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:45,920 Speaker 1: A starting tight end. Are we gonna do about Diggie? 2477 02:05:46,280 --> 02:05:49,600 Speaker 1: We need them? Okay, thanks Alan? Which one do you 2478 02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:52,160 Speaker 1: want to take? Well, the easiest one is backup quarterback. 2479 02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:56,280 Speaker 1: The quarterback room is set with Derek Anderson and Matt Barkley. 2480 02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:59,160 Speaker 1: Take your pick. I guess Barkley's the backup. Um, what 2481 02:05:59,320 --> 02:06:02,800 Speaker 1: other one can I dispatch? With? Ziggy? I don't you know. 2482 02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:05,360 Speaker 1: Nothing's happened now. It's over a week since he visited here. 2483 02:06:06,040 --> 02:06:08,440 Speaker 1: He hasn't signed anywhere, which I guess is a good thing. 2484 02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that they need him. I really don't 2485 02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:12,879 Speaker 1: know that they need him. And obviously there's a difference 2486 02:06:12,920 --> 02:06:15,240 Speaker 1: of opinion you would think on how much benefit he 2487 02:06:15,280 --> 02:06:17,400 Speaker 1: would have to the Bills or New Orleans or wherever 2488 02:06:17,480 --> 02:06:19,520 Speaker 1: else he's talked. Because he's yet to sign a contract 2489 02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:23,400 Speaker 1: tight end, starting tight end, that's a better question. I 2490 02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:26,760 Speaker 1: think that is a position that still needs to be addressed. 2491 02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:28,520 Speaker 1: You only have two on the roster. So I think 2492 02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:31,160 Speaker 1: it's a very strong likelihood that they draft one somewhere. 2493 02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:33,720 Speaker 1: It's hard to ascertain whether it's going to happen early, middle, 2494 02:06:33,800 --> 02:06:36,440 Speaker 1: or late. And then they still may try to get 2495 02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:40,800 Speaker 1: some kind of veteran blocking tight end in here. You 2496 02:06:40,840 --> 02:06:43,040 Speaker 1: know somebody that can handle that duty on a full 2497 02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:46,480 Speaker 1: time basis in short yardard situations that you can count on. Yeah, 2498 02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:49,680 Speaker 1: I mean Jake Fisher is a perfect example. You know, 2499 02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:52,240 Speaker 1: the free agent who used to be an offensive tackle 2500 02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:54,320 Speaker 1: and is trying to reinvent himself as a full time 2501 02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:57,000 Speaker 1: tight end. He's been a sixth offensive lineman in Cincinnati 2502 02:06:57,040 --> 02:07:02,120 Speaker 1: for a long time in certain rundown situations. So that's 2503 02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:05,960 Speaker 1: a potential option, I suppose. But yeah, they're gonna have 2504 02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:08,000 Speaker 1: to add to the tight end position. The thing with 2505 02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:11,520 Speaker 1: Ziggy Ans is this. I think people see that he 2506 02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:15,240 Speaker 1: visited and they're thinking, oh, they're already talking contract. I 2507 02:07:15,280 --> 02:07:18,240 Speaker 1: don't think it ever got that far. Based on some 2508 02:07:18,360 --> 02:07:20,800 Speaker 1: of Brandon Bean's comments to us when we asked him 2509 02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:23,280 Speaker 1: directly on this show and in a couple of other 2510 02:07:23,400 --> 02:07:27,880 Speaker 1: media forums, it sounds as though this was purely an 2511 02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:31,960 Speaker 1: exploratory visit. In the terms of where is he at 2512 02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:35,480 Speaker 1: in his recovery from shoulder surgery. I think they want 2513 02:07:35,520 --> 02:07:38,840 Speaker 1: to know is he ready now, what's the timetable, and 2514 02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:41,880 Speaker 1: let their own physicians make an assessment as to when 2515 02:07:41,960 --> 02:07:43,720 Speaker 1: Ansa is going to be a one hundred percent healthy 2516 02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:46,880 Speaker 1: to play football. I think that's really what that visit 2517 02:07:47,080 --> 02:07:49,680 Speaker 1: was all about. And there are other teams doing the 2518 02:07:49,800 --> 02:07:52,800 Speaker 1: same thing because he's had more than one shoulder injury 2519 02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:55,560 Speaker 1: in his career. He had a shoulder surgery his rookie season, 2520 02:07:55,680 --> 02:07:59,800 Speaker 1: now he's had another one, and with pass rushers, that's 2521 02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:02,240 Speaker 1: one that is going to draw eyeballs and throw up 2522 02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:04,800 Speaker 1: red flags. So you do It's part of doing your 2523 02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:08,640 Speaker 1: due diligence on a player who's unquestionably talented but has 2524 02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:12,040 Speaker 1: been beset by injuries each of the last three seasons. 2525 02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:15,800 Speaker 1: So to me, this is a do your homework kind 2526 02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:18,040 Speaker 1: of visit. That's what it was last week for the Bills. 2527 02:08:18,080 --> 02:08:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it was about talking contract, at least 2528 02:08:20,520 --> 02:08:23,440 Speaker 1: not yet. I think later in the offseason, let's just 2529 02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:26,600 Speaker 1: say after the draft, let's just say the Bills don't 2530 02:08:26,600 --> 02:08:29,080 Speaker 1: get what they want in terms of an edge rusher 2531 02:08:29,160 --> 02:08:33,280 Speaker 1: to add to the defense. In the draft, then they 2532 02:08:33,360 --> 02:08:35,120 Speaker 1: might be on the phone with the ziggyons at that 2533 02:08:35,200 --> 02:08:38,160 Speaker 1: point in time see if his rehab is still on schedule. 2534 02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:41,720 Speaker 1: And now they have the medical assessment from their own 2535 02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:44,960 Speaker 1: doctors that they gathered last week that they can refer 2536 02:08:45,080 --> 02:08:48,080 Speaker 1: to in determining, well, what's his value to us? Doesn't 2537 02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:50,760 Speaker 1: appear to be any urgency on either side, or for 2538 02:08:50,840 --> 02:08:53,040 Speaker 1: that matter, from any team in the NFL, which leads 2539 02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:55,480 Speaker 1: me to believe that that Ziggyonsa knows he's not ready 2540 02:08:55,520 --> 02:09:00,280 Speaker 1: yet either in June, right when he's healthy. Yeah, thanks, call, 2541 02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a break. We're coming back. One Bill's 2542 02:09:02,360 --> 02:09:21,200 Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Driving. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Okay, 2543 02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:23,560 Speaker 1: So what have we learned from today's show? Presented by 2544 02:09:23,680 --> 02:09:27,120 Speaker 1: Advanced Alarm providing Western New York's homes and businesses with 2545 02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:30,280 Speaker 1: the Finess and Security and Home Theater, the preferred alarm 2546 02:09:30,360 --> 02:09:32,280 Speaker 1: and home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. We had 2547 02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:35,680 Speaker 1: new Bills of offensive lineman Adrian Waddle on the show 2548 02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:37,840 Speaker 1: back in the first hour of the show. Offensive tackle 2549 02:09:37,960 --> 02:09:40,760 Speaker 1: came over from the Patriots, but he reunites with some 2550 02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:43,200 Speaker 1: coaches he had in the past. Here are the Buffalo Bills, 2551 02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:46,280 Speaker 1: including Bobby Johnson, Buffalo's new offensive line coach, who he 2552 02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:48,960 Speaker 1: had with the Lions. Adrian Widdle says it's good to 2553 02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:51,160 Speaker 1: get back with coaches that he's worked with in the past. 2554 02:09:53,000 --> 02:09:55,040 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, it's factored in a little bit. 2555 02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:57,240 Speaker 1: You know, me and Bobby have a great relationship, and 2556 02:09:57,760 --> 02:09:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, I have a great relationship with have to 2557 02:09:59,800 --> 02:10:03,000 Speaker 1: the sistant online coach and you know, uh, you know 2558 02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:05,960 Speaker 1: Day Bowls over here too. He's a OC. I've worked 2559 02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:07,440 Speaker 1: with him over in New England. So you know, I 2560 02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:10,200 Speaker 1: have a good relationship with those guys, and you know, 2561 02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:12,720 Speaker 1: it's always nice to you know, have some some kind 2562 02:10:12,760 --> 02:10:16,120 Speaker 1: of familiarity, you know, with a little change of scenery. Yeah, 2563 02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:18,400 Speaker 1: so that definitely played into it. You know, me and 2564 02:10:18,440 --> 02:10:20,040 Speaker 1: those guys are real cool and I look forward to 2565 02:10:20,080 --> 02:10:22,480 Speaker 1: working with him. Not to like about Ladry and while 2566 02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:25,120 Speaker 1: we enjoyed our conversation with him earlier on Today. Also 2567 02:10:25,200 --> 02:10:27,720 Speaker 1: on the show Today is regular Friday Spot Great co Sell, 2568 02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:31,800 Speaker 1: executive producer analyst for NFL Matchup on ESPN, long time 2569 02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:35,520 Speaker 1: senior producer at NFL Films. He is deep into his 2570 02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:38,080 Speaker 1: draft preparation now we spent a lot of time on 2571 02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:40,800 Speaker 1: the wide receivers, and we asked him about the ideal 2572 02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:43,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver the Bills could get this year in the 2573 02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:47,200 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Yeah, I would think the Bills would be 2574 02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:49,840 Speaker 1: looking for some size because right now they have John Brown, 2575 02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:53,600 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, and Foster, so they don't have any size. Um, 2576 02:10:54,160 --> 02:10:56,080 Speaker 1: So I would think that the Bills would be you know, 2577 02:10:56,120 --> 02:10:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess they have a Jones as well, 2578 02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:01,680 Speaker 1: and he's he's pretty big. But to me, I think 2579 02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:03,920 Speaker 1: in this particular group, I'd be anxious to see how 2580 02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:06,160 Speaker 1: he gets used. But I think they would love to 2581 02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:09,920 Speaker 1: get a big outside receiver. And then it depends on 2582 02:11:10,040 --> 02:11:13,760 Speaker 1: who you like. You know, maybe they like nikkil Harry, 2583 02:11:14,840 --> 02:11:16,800 Speaker 1: maybe they like Yeah, I don't know who they like. 2584 02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:19,680 Speaker 1: But I would think Murph, that they'd be looking for 2585 02:11:19,840 --> 02:11:22,560 Speaker 1: some size at the wide receiver position at this point. 2586 02:11:23,720 --> 02:11:25,800 Speaker 1: Great co Sell, you know what struck me, Brownie about 2587 02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:29,680 Speaker 1: Great Cosell's entire litany of receiving a talent that he 2588 02:11:29,760 --> 02:11:33,160 Speaker 1: went through with us today. There's a variety of body types, 2589 02:11:33,240 --> 02:11:36,800 Speaker 1: a variety of skill sets. Whatever the Bills want, they're 2590 02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:38,920 Speaker 1: going to be able to get some kind of a 2591 02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:41,360 Speaker 1: receiver who can probably help and play in the NFL, 2592 02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:44,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily in the first or even second round. There's 2593 02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:47,800 Speaker 1: some talent there with, like I said, just a wide 2594 02:11:47,840 --> 02:11:50,000 Speaker 1: variety of different types of receivers, which I think is 2595 02:11:50,040 --> 02:11:52,680 Speaker 1: a good thing. Yeah, and that's why I don't think 2596 02:11:52,680 --> 02:11:55,280 Speaker 1: the Bills are going to get married to we have 2597 02:11:55,440 --> 02:11:58,480 Speaker 1: to get a receiver with size, because there are some 2598 02:11:58,600 --> 02:12:01,440 Speaker 1: darn good ones in this draft that aren't six foot 2599 02:12:01,480 --> 02:12:03,840 Speaker 1: three and two hundred and twenty pounds. There are some 2600 02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:06,480 Speaker 1: that are good that are that size and that weight, 2601 02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:09,120 Speaker 1: But I don't think the Bills are the type that 2602 02:12:09,200 --> 02:12:15,160 Speaker 1: are going to pigeonhole themselves into a specific kind of receiver. Obviously, 2603 02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:18,360 Speaker 1: if the value matches where they're picking, yes, and if 2604 02:12:18,440 --> 02:12:21,320 Speaker 1: there's a tie between two players that are different in 2605 02:12:21,600 --> 02:12:24,560 Speaker 1: the measurable standpoint, than yes, they'll do that. But there's 2606 02:12:24,560 --> 02:12:26,520 Speaker 1: a lot of other receivers in this draft that aren't 2607 02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:28,320 Speaker 1: gigantic who are pretty darn good. I mean, you got 2608 02:12:28,320 --> 02:12:30,760 Speaker 1: the Ohio State kids who can run like the wind, 2609 02:12:31,080 --> 02:12:33,080 Speaker 1: and you got the Deebo Samuel kid who we mentioned 2610 02:12:33,080 --> 02:12:36,200 Speaker 1: who's not six feet tall but man can run over people. 2611 02:12:36,280 --> 02:12:38,520 Speaker 1: So there are gonna be a lot of good options. Hey, 2612 02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:41,000 Speaker 1: looking ahead over the weekend. As we said, we already 2613 02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:43,200 Speaker 1: talked about what's coming up on the website Buffalo Bills 2614 02:12:43,240 --> 02:12:47,480 Speaker 1: dot com. Early next week, we'll we'll have a personnel 2615 02:12:47,560 --> 02:12:50,600 Speaker 1: at the NFL meetings in Phoenix, Arizona, and we'll have 2616 02:12:50,720 --> 02:12:53,120 Speaker 1: coverage of comments coming out early in the week from 2617 02:12:53,200 --> 02:12:56,160 Speaker 1: a head coach Sean McDermott. We think General manager Brandon 2618 02:12:56,200 --> 02:12:58,240 Speaker 1: Bean is going to speak right, and maybe even an 2619 02:12:58,240 --> 02:13:00,720 Speaker 1: ownership at the owner's meetings. Plus the coverage of the 2620 02:13:01,240 --> 02:13:03,480 Speaker 1: of the rule germ as well. Yeah, yeah, so that 2621 02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:05,720 Speaker 1: those stuff to look for on the website and on 2622 02:13:05,840 --> 02:13:07,840 Speaker 1: this show early next week, right, we will have it 2623 02:13:07,880 --> 02:13:10,280 Speaker 1: all covered. Yep, all right, he Chris, thanks for this, 2624 02:13:10,360 --> 02:13:13,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for pitching in Brown, h Steve. It's fun to 2625 02:13:13,640 --> 02:13:19,440 Speaker 1: be enough. Ye enough. I expected a little bit more, 2626 02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:22,160 Speaker 1: but it was enough. Last week was really fun. That 2627 02:13:22,240 --> 02:13:24,200 Speaker 1: was your agent. It was wild. Got quiet here this 2628 02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:26,120 Speaker 1: one that was wild. Early next week we'll be hard 2629 02:13:26,160 --> 02:13:28,000 Speaker 1: to live up to him. Come. Yeah, Well that's the 2630 02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:31,080 Speaker 1: that's the existence of the off season. But early next week, 2631 02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:33,840 Speaker 1: coverage of the NFL owners meeting will happen for you here. 2632 02:13:33,880 --> 02:13:36,840 Speaker 1: Thanks to Chris Brown, for joining US Taskers back next Monday. 2633 02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:40,920 Speaker 1: Production assistance George Blast, Jeff Colton, Likeick, Thomas Hollander, Kelly Rude, 2634 02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:44,080 Speaker 1: JJ Tarito, Kevin Cargis, Dame's roboll Our producer Jay Harris. 2635 02:13:44,360 --> 02:13:46,800 Speaker 1: Thanks to Chris Brown. We'll see you tomorrow Tomorrow. We'll 2636 02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:48,960 Speaker 1: see him Monday at twelve noon. You can be here 2637 02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:51,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow if you want, sir, Tomorrow twelve noon. One Bill 2638 02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:54,480 Speaker 1: Slide presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive and 2639 02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:56,040 Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio