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Speaker 1: And the disapproval by Republicans was down at about five

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Speaker 1: why is that? How can that be? Everybody loves Trump,

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Speaker 1: Everybody that you know feels the way you do. We

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Speaker 1: all have a bubble, an echo chamber. There are a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that are considered in this poll as Republicans,

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Speaker 1: but you have to realize that includes Liz Cheney or

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Speaker 1: so much of who and what we are has to

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Speaker 1: not always the case. You may say that's not true

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Speaker 1: But that's okay. It's it's it's a it's a passion,

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Hey, Michael just said, Oh, that's all how

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Speaker 1: Corporate radio couldn't hold him back, nobody could hold him back.

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Speaker 1: He built an audience with whom he communed directly, and

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Speaker 1: But just stick to the newspaper for a moment. They

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Speaker 1: way down to the letters to the editor. That was

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Speaker 1: their attempt to try to get some common man injection

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Speaker 1: into their otherwise closed society. Well then the blogs started. Well,

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Speaker 1: then the bulletin board started, and then the blogs started,

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Speaker 1: which very few people do anymore. And then social media

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Speaker 1: st and that allowed anybody and everybody who had a

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Speaker 1: thought to be able to distribute that to as big

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Speaker 1: people feel that was a negative thing. Oh well, now

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Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of dumb ideas out there. Can't

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Speaker 1: you sift through the dumb ideas? Yeah, but they're out

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Speaker 1: there saying this, this, and this. A person making a

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Speaker 1: stupid statement doesn't make it true. If a person making

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Speaker 1: a stupid statement challenges your connection to the truth, or

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Speaker 1: in your opinion, challenges the truth itself, then you have

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Speaker 1: to ask yourself, is the truth really the truth as

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Speaker 1: you know it and not Scalia. Clarence Thomas gave a

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Speaker 1: known as true North, and if you find it on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: you'll see it for yourself. And he said, true North

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Speaker 1: is true North. If you're being washed around in the

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Speaker 1: sea on your boat and you've lost your compass. True

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Speaker 1: North doesn't change, You're just trying to find it. The

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Speaker 1: truth doesn't change, no matter what happens, no matter what

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Speaker 1: winds blow, no matter what people say. Truth doesn't change.

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Speaker 1: And you don't need to be threatened by the fact

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Speaker 1: that there are idiots out there saying things that are crazy.

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Speaker 1: A lot of our folks go go mad trying to

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Speaker 1: silence or understand crazy people. Whether it's the incoming mayor

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Speaker 1: anyone else, they're crazy. Once you understand that, you have

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Speaker 1: a certain peace of mind, don't associate with them, don't

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Speaker 1: hire them, don't marry them, don't be friends with them,

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Speaker 1: don't have them as your token friend, don't follow them

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Speaker 1: or have them follow you on social media. Move on

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Speaker 1: and live your happy life. There's a reason I don't

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Speaker 1: live in Saudi Arabia. There's a reason, and I don't

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Speaker 1: live in China. I wouldn't be happy there, So why

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Speaker 1: would I associate with crazy people on social media or

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Speaker 1: gopher beers with them or whatever else. It's a good, good,

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Speaker 1: good recipe for being a whole lot happier,