1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Urduski. Thank 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: you guys for being here. Is the twenty twenty four 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Trump Coalition ending. That's the question I'm going to pose 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: to everybody, because that is what the media is saying. 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: This all comes from the New York Times standa poll 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: that I mentioned to my audience on Friday's episode. First, 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: I want to say that I know a lot of 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: people are down on poles, right. I get it there. 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: They didn't messed up a lot in the last ten years, 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of nonsense that comes from a 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: polling industry. So I'm not unaware of it, and I'm 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: not biased in saying that all poles are good. There's 13 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: a lot of bad stuff out there. But we have 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: to take certain polls seriously, not only because there is 15 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: some truth to them. There's an underlying truth that they 16 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: are correct more than they are wrong, even though when 17 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: they're wrong, they're really wrong. But it's also in the 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: fact that they are taken seriously by the media and 19 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: they create the narratives that we all live with, and 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: then the mainstream believes right. So despite whatever you feel 21 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: about polling, despite how much you may not like up 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: or sit there and say, oh, it's a New York 23 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: Times pol therefore it's going to be liberal, and I 24 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: find the New York Times polls is not. I mean, 25 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: they do think some things I don't like, but as 26 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: far as like the wonkiness of the poll. But what 27 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: they what they do is they are transparent and they 28 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: are attached the biggest newspaper in the country. So therefore 29 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: alone it's worth to go through it to find what 30 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: they're talking about and then to either correct it, dispel it, 31 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: or sit there and say, yeah, this is the truth. 32 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: And either I have to accept it or I should 33 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: promote it because it agrees with me. So my question 34 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: comes from the article published by Nate Cohene. He's a 35 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: very smart data analyst for The Times. He's actually been 36 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: right quite a bit in the last few years. Cod 37 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: Or an article the voters who have taken a U 38 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: turn on Trump, and it detailed how voters have shifted 39 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: big against Trump. They shifted for Trump rather in twenty 40 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: twenty four, and now they're shifting away from Trump based 41 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: on his favorability ratings, his current favorite ratings, which stand 42 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: at forty percent according to the Times. So, according to 43 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: the Times, and I'm going to post the image on 44 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: the YouTube video. If you're not able to if you're 45 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: just listening to this, I'll show it on the YouTube video. 46 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: Then times to serin show is that there is a 47 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: big swing among non white voters and voters among the 48 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: ages of eighteen to twenty nine, that they are moving 49 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: further against Trump than the general public, and they're actually 50 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: responsible for a big part of the movement against Trump. Naturally, 51 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: liberals are celebrating Greg Sargeant from the New Republicans named 52 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: on Twitter that the maga, the maga is dead, that 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: the long last national nightmare was over, and that the 54 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: coalition of the Ascentdant is basically back in action, Obama's 55 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: coalition that really, really America wasn't upset about immigration, and 56 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: really they weren't changing their opinions about illegal immigration. They 57 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: really wanted Joe Biden's immigration, is what he's saying. And 58 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: while the data seems overwhelming, not just from this pole 59 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: but from others as well, that young people and minorities 60 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: are souring on Trump, the vibe has shifted. As the 61 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: kids say, that doesn't mean that they're going back to Democrats, right. 62 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: So I started looking at the New York Times poll, 63 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: all the cross sections across tabs at the New York 64 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: Times poll, because cross tabs are sexy, even though they despite, 65 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: they say, don't look at them. I look at them 66 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: all the time, they say. I started looking through the 67 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: cross tabs of the New York Times poll and the 68 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: exit polls created by Pew Research in the twenty sixteen, 69 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, and twenty four elections to sit 70 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: there and say where do these groups line up in 71 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: historical context? Right? I know this is very nerdy, and 72 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: this segment is going to be especially nerdy everyone, so 73 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: brace yourself for it. But I sat there and said, 74 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: where do these numbers look historically? 75 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: Right? 76 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: Let's say they're souring on Trump and where they were 77 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, where he was at an all 78 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: time high. With these groups, are they back to Democrats? 79 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: So let's start with Hispanics. In twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton 80 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: won his banks by thirty eight points, and in twenty eighteen, 81 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: Democrats in that wave election won them by forty seven 82 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: points according to these exit poles by Pew Research. Remember, 83 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, Biden won them by twenty five points, 84 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: and in twenty twenty four, Harris by just three points. 85 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: The New York Times poll says now Democrats are beating 86 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: Republicans among Hispanics by sixteen points. Sixteen points is worse 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: than Harris got. Was more Democrat than the twenty twenty 88 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: four election that Harris was in by thirteen points, but 89 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: it is better than every other election besides the Harris won. 90 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: It is a thirty one point swing from the last 91 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: midterm elections where Trump was the president. Now, let's look 92 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: at eighteen to twenty nine year olds, many of whom 93 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: are minorities are Hispanics. Hillary won eighteen twenty nine year 94 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: olds by thirty points in twenty eighteen, Democrats won them 95 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: by forty nine points. In twenty twenty, Biden won them 96 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: by twenty six points, and in twenty twenty four, Harris 97 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: won them by nineteen points. The New York Times says 98 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: that Democrats right now are producted to win them by 99 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: twenty seven points in the mid terms. Twenty seven points 100 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: is a big win. It's about where Biden was in 101 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It's also twenty two points to the right 102 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: of where Democrats were back in twenty eighteen. It is 103 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: also three points to the right of where they work 104 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: with Hillary Clinton. Now, let's take a look at black voters. 105 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: Hillary won black voters by eighty five points in twenty eighteen. 106 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: They won them by eighty six points in twenty twenty. 107 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Biden won by eighty four points. In twenty twenty four. 108 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: Harris won them by sixty eight points. It's a big, big, 109 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: big change from the previous elections. The New York Times 110 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: currently have Democrats winning the black vote by fifty five points. 111 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: That is a wild thirty one point swing from twenty eighteen. 112 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: That is actually worse than they were doing under Harris. 113 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: And what about men. Let's talk about men, because they 114 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: are a huge part of the Trump coalition. Trump won 115 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: men and by eleven points in twenty sixteen. Democrats actually 116 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: won men by two points in twenty eighteen. Trump won 117 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: them by twelve points in twenty twenty and twelve points 118 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: again in twenty twenty four. The New York Times poll 119 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: had them up as Republicans, winning them by six points 120 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six That's an eight point jump from 121 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Yeah, it's worse than Trump did, but it's 122 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: not worse than they were in twenty eighteen. This reversion, 123 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: there's a big there's a big possibly that younger men 124 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: and minority men, Hispanic men really haven't left the Trump coalition. 125 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: Let's talk about white voters, the biggest part of Trump's base. 126 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: Trump won white voters by fifteen points in twenty sixteen, 127 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: Republicans won them by six points in twenty eighteen. Trump 128 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: won them again by twelve points in twenty twenty and 129 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. New York Times have whites voting for 130 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: Republicans by seven points, basically unchanged from twenty eighteen. There's 131 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: no mass reversion of that demographic to be more liberal 132 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: than they were. And I want to talk about two 133 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: other groups college educated whites. College educated whites the big 134 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: liberal group. Remember Hillary won them by twenty one points 135 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, Democrats by twenty six and twenty eighteen, 136 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: Biden by fifteen, Harris by twelve. This poll has Democrats 137 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: winning by twenty three points. I think that's maybe over 138 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: overstating it, but whatever, I don't know why I'm whispering, 139 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: but over twenty three points, that's still three points better 140 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: than twenty eighteen. And last of the two I want 141 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: to talk about is women Hillary won Woman by fifteen points, 142 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: Democrats by eighteen points in twenty eighteen, Biden by eleven, 143 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: Harris by seven. This poll has Democrats leading by sixteen 144 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: better than Hillary Biden, Kamala, you know, but not as 145 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: good as Democrats in twenty eighteen. Still, these levels are 146 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: not at twenty eighteen levels. And I also I have 147 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: a suspicion this is a problem with the New York 148 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: Times Santa Pole is very frequent, is that when they 149 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: sample women and they sample college educated, there's a large overlap. 150 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: So in many of their polls they are over sampling 151 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: liberal women. And that's why a lot of times in 152 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: their polling, like in twenty twenty four, that was always 153 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: a big outlier. I'm not going to sit there and 154 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: be a poll truther, but it's something I think about 155 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: all the time. When there's this over overly large number 156 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: coming from these two demographics, it's usually because they are 157 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: overlapping and they're asking the same people most two demographics. Anyway, 158 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: my point is being that all these cross tabs, all 159 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: all the numbers, and the different demographics are showing a 160 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: trajectory that yes, Republican growth from twenty twenty four has 161 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: has gone back. We've definitely lost some grounds since twenty 162 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: twenty four. That being said, they are a lot better 163 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: among most of those key demographics from twenty eighteen by 164 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: twenty points. In many cases, life, politics like life, is 165 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: not a straight trajectory. It is a roller coaster. There's ups, 166 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: there's downs. There's ups, there's downs. It's not going to 167 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: be one continuous thing. Think about the white non college 168 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: educated vote, the vote that Richard Nixon brought to the 169 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: Republican Party and Ronald Reagan used to win a forty 170 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: nine state landslide. Like Richard Nixon, they went back to 171 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: Democrats for Bill Clinton. Does it mean that they were 172 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: never going to end up where they ended up? No, 173 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: of course not. Of course they were going to be 174 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: the backpront of the Republican Party. But there's ups and downs, 175 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: there's edges and flo ebbs and flows. I mean, that's 176 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: just how it is, like, that's just how politics and 177 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: life works. Ant sit there and give the opinion that 178 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: it's all over because one bad poll comes, especially when 179 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: you compare the poll to other exit polls, when that's 180 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: what the story they're making, the case that, oh, look, 181 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: compared to this one exit pole it's showing a complete backslide. 182 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: But when you look just two elections, three elections, four 183 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: elections out shows actually the trajectory is in the way 184 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: for the Republicans. So do I think by the way 185 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: one to last point I want to make, do I 186 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: think that this is, you know, going back towards Republicans 187 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: and this general movement towards Republicans is indefinite that some 188 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: of these Trump voters aren't up for grabs in the future, 189 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: And now I do not. I've said this on many 190 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: times on this podcast on other shows. I think there's 191 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: a lot of open questions of the future of the 192 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: GUP where these voters could leave for good. I think 193 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: AI is one of these issues. I've said it over 194 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: and over again. What happens if the youth unemployment is 195 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five percent because of AI, You're gonna 196 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: have a ton of pissoff gen zers and their parents 197 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: demanding some kind of change in Democrats like Congress from Rocanna, 198 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: who was on this podcast, said that they are using 199 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: AI and the fear of job displacement as the mechanism 200 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: to have real socialism in this country. I think that 201 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: Trump is a huge blind spot for the trumdministration. I've 202 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: said it over and over again. I hope that they 203 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: have a plan to fix it. I don't know if 204 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: they do, but I think that there are many things 205 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: that Republicans can lose these voters on. As of right now, 206 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that they have. But if Democrats see 207 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: this poll and comes to the conclusion that twenty twenty 208 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: four we just have fever dream and everything goes back 209 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: to the normal and Americans really just want Joe Biden's 210 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: immigration policy without the high inflation, they are wrong. This 211 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: is the new normal, even if for one election it 212 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: doesn't look like it. That's the way Cookie crumples. Whether 213 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: they like it or not, this is the new party. 214 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: The way it's moving. One poll in one election does 215 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: not therefore make a trend. All right with me? Today 216 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: is my very good friend, the incredible author, writer, bestseller, provocateur, 217 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: or a colder. She's coming up next to talk about 218 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: her new column and mass immigration deportations. Stay tuned, and 219 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: Colter is a household name who's written more New York 220 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: Times bestsellers than I can count. My favorite is Demonic. 221 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: I always highly recommend it to people that they want 222 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: a great introduction on mob think and the French Revolution. 223 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: Fantastic book. She also has an incredible substack that I 224 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: can I recommend it enough called Unsafe. You should all 225 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: try to subscribe to it to read her weekly columns 226 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: and video interviews. And I want to thank you for 227 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: being here. 228 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I know we 229 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: both try to avoid podcasters interviewing other podcasts, but I 230 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: really want it's been driving me crazy that the media 231 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: have actually pulled off this total mind wipe of two 232 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: of the most important historic events in history. And I 233 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: mentioned it in the column I don't know last year 234 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: when Trump sent the troops into LA but it hasn't 235 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: really caught on. So I wrote about it again and 236 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: this week a little more stridently. And I just want 237 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: to get it to sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue. 238 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: So let's talk about that, ap D. So you write 239 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: in your new outpbed on Unsafe the substack, that how 240 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: progressives have a narrative around MLK Day that the anti 241 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: ice protesters are actually really living up to mlk's legacy. 242 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: That is a completely original thought that they haven't attributed 243 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: to any other protesters on the left. My first question 244 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: to you, Anne, is is that the left seems to 245 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: believe that all of history comes down to the Civil 246 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: rights movement, slavery, World War two, and the Red Scare. 247 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: Are there any other historical times that matter to them? 248 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: And why is that comparisoning fallacy? 249 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: That's a fantastic question. Yes, they do seem to think that. 250 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: And recently I mentioned this in my subset podcast that's 251 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 2: going up in a few hours, which maybe you won't 252 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 2: like this part. The big blockbuster movies recently have all 253 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: begun with the Ellis Island immigrants. I mean, how many 254 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: mob movies do we need? It used to be cowboys 255 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: and Indians. Remember that that was big. That's part of 256 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 2: early American history. 257 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: But right, and also Italians did something after creating the mob. 258 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: It's been several decades that the mob really hasn't existed, 259 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: So there's like a big chunk also missing, like they 260 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: just weren't Like, okay, organized crime fail. Therefore, Kaputz, let's 261 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: go back to Sicily and pack it in. I mean, 262 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: I don't understand why that's the only Italian reference that 263 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: there is. 264 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: No it's the immigrant thing. I mean, there was my 265 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: big fat Greek wedding and there's some Asian wedding or something, 266 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: and crazy gently on immigrant movies. 267 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, there is not. There is not a one 268 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: of like a wasp who really does well for himself 269 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: and doesn't. But no, but it's yeah, even what was 270 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: Oppenheimer was about, wasn't he an immigrant as well? I 271 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: think Oppenheimer was an immigrant. 272 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 2: Too, Adam Baum, so he was. 273 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: I I do credit them that it was a nineteen 274 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: black women sitting there doing the atom bomb with Oppenheimer 275 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: just kind of rolling in the No, it didn't. I'm 276 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: making that out. There was no There was no women 277 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: of color sitting there, And I think that it's an 278 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: important question though with with that that they're trying to 279 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: constantly say that these are the real freedom fighters. Whenever 280 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: there's an internal national stripe over anything, George Floyd Ice, whatever, 281 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: it's always, well, these people must be good because MLK 282 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: would have marched with. 283 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: That right, right, right, And again, as I described my 284 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: podcast going up soon, it's weird there's a cutout for 285 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: for anything involving black people, which I think is probably correct. 286 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: They were brought here as slaves. They didn't get the 287 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: short end of the stick for a couple of centuries 288 00:14:54,920 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: thanks to Democrats. So you know, all these civil rights 289 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: laws were abrogating the right of association in the Constitution, 290 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: property rights in the Constitution. Even the civil rights law 291 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: has been twisted to mean the exact opposite of what 292 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: it says, because yes, but black people are involved, so 293 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: we don't follow the law. We don't need because that 294 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: is the only explanation for why no one else is 295 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: pointing out that the two most heroic events in US history, 296 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: according to liberals, were when Eisenhower and JFK sent federal 297 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: troops to go against democratic governors because they were not 298 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: following federal law and they weren't waiting for ice agents 299 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: or whomever to be hit with shovels, to be hospitalized, 300 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: to have frozen projectiles thrown at them, lasers at their eyes, 301 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: for Antifa to move in. No, the governor and various 302 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: private individuals simply, we're not following one Supreme Court decision, 303 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: and that one Supreme Court decision versus Board of Education. 304 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: I mean that by itself, yes, blacks had gotten the 305 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 2: short end of the strict stick. We had to end segregation. 306 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: But the reasoning is, I mean, it's like Roe v. Wade, 307 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: even if you support abortion, people would admit the reasoning 308 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: is absurd. And the reasoning in Brown v. Board was 309 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: Separate but equal is inherently unequal. So separate but equal 310 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: schools schools for white, schools for blacks is unconstitutional. Now 311 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: you know, years later now that I think that's kind 312 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: of been taken care of. A footnote, Richard Nixon segregated, 313 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: desegregated more schools than have been that were desegregated in 314 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: American history before or since. Never will get credit for that. 315 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: In any event. I think we can say, now, as 316 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: Claire Thomas does all the time, the problem was the 317 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: schools weren't equal. It really wasn't that. As Thomas says, 318 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: black kids need to sit next to white kids in 319 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: order to learn. And I mean, I know this better 320 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: than I do. I mean, all these private academies, I 321 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: don't know if there are many still in existence, but 322 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: I know they're once for that admit they tend to 323 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: have black male teachers and coaches. And they only admit 324 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: young black men existed in the past. I don't know 325 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 2: if anything, and they do really well. 326 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's also I mean, this is the whole 327 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: lawsuit in California that my nonprofits dealing with right now. 328 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: There seems to be an unspoken right to be in 329 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: close proximity to a white child like that is, but 330 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: that is their reasoning is that unless you are in 331 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: a desk next to a white child, you have therefore 332 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: unequal access opportunity. Even though all this kids in LA 333 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: I think it's thirty eight thousand dollars per year per 334 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: pupil have access. If you go back to the nineteen fifties, 335 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: nineteen forties, especially in the Deep South, they really those kids, 336 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: those schools really did and they didn't have plumbing. I 337 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: mean it was really they had nothing. It was a 338 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: completely unequal system back then, but it didn't call for 339 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: the but the logic therefore was and well then you 340 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: must be forced to sit next to, you know, a 341 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: person of a different race. And I mean so many 342 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: school that the whole I mean busting, going back to 343 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: bussing busting was such a failed experiment. Mayor John Lindsay 344 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: ruined so many New York high schools by emphasizing this 345 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: need to bus kids into neighbors that they had, you know, 346 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: they lived hours away from at times in New York City, 347 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: gridlocked traffic every morning at six am. It didn't improve 348 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: grade scores whatsoever at all, like nothing, it did literally nothing. 349 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: And we've had decades ever. 350 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: Reallybody hated it. I know black people who talk who 351 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: were subjected to it and will say I hated it. 352 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: I had to get up at six a m. Every 353 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: morning to ride for two hours on a bus just 354 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: so I could sit next to white people. 355 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: And you know what's so funny. Way I was at 356 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: you know, Batsiya Angar's. She had shown it, yeah newsation. 357 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: I went to her Shabbat dinner and there was a 358 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: black gentleman there and you came up as a topic 359 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: and someone's asking about your opinion of civil rights and 360 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: he stopped the able conversations with Anne is so misunderstood. 361 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: She's not and she understands civil rights are for black 362 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: people and only yes. But I was like, oh my gosh, well, 363 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: this guy's like paying attention everything that Anne says. I 364 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: had to bring that up because I thought it was 365 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: so funny. But getting back to the immigration part of 366 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: your article, what should be the federal response right now 367 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: to these places just refusing to cooperate with the law. 368 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: Trump needs to pull all the troops back from these 369 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: far flung areas all over the world. He is made 370 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: making America grade again, not make Ballerin again good great again, 371 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: or Belgium grade again. I mean, our country is dying. 372 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: We may not survive what Biden and forty years of 373 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: Democrats and Republicans did with immigration, changing the population so dramatically, 374 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: more transformation of any country's population than at any time 375 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: in history. And you know, Biden brought in twenty million 376 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: so far Trump and you know, God bless him. I 377 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: think he's doing his best. It seems like they are 378 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: have actually deported I think it's like six hundred and 379 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: fifty thousand. There are another couple million who have self deported. Okay, 380 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: that is so not going to work. But it's not 381 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: going to get the twenty million out. And then we're 382 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: already forty million. So you got to bring the troops 383 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: home and send them to every sanctuary state in the Union. 384 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: And I mean not only sounds extreme because everyone forgets Eisenhower. 385 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: This was one Supreme Court case that this Democratic governors 386 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: were ignoring, thinking that they could be sanctuaries from federal law. 387 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: The Supreme Court has held more than a dozen times 388 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: that immigration law is one hundred percent of province of 389 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: the federal government. Congress to write the law, the President 390 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: to enforce the law. States as you'll remin when Chris 391 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 2: Kobak wrote that Proposition ten seventy for Arizona, which was 392 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: not defying immigration or federal immigration law. It was complying 393 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: federal immigration law. But President Obama comes in and says, oh, no, no, 394 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: but I'm the president and I don't want to enforce 395 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: immigration law. So he goes to this uream court. Chuck 396 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: Schumer's screaming, this is an outrage. They're stepping on the 397 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: province of the federal government. It's our right to I 398 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: remember watching Luis Gutierrez smirking and marketing on TV, saying 399 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: and then they'll go to the Supreme Court and they 400 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: will say, sorry, Arizona supremacy clause. So they know what 401 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: the supremacy clause is. And over and over and over again, 402 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: this ream court has said immigration law, this is the 403 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: federal government's province, even when the state is trying to 404 00:21:55,040 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 2: comply with federal government, and the President says, eh, Russian, 405 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: I don't really want to enforce all those laws right now. 406 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: It's I mean, it is so much more egregious than 407 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: what Eisenhower sent the troops in for, and even to 408 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 2: hear Trump talk about it, which is why I really 409 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: want I want conservatives to understand this. They should all 410 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: be able to make this argument. And it has to 411 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: be more than just Trump and Stephen Miller making the argument. 412 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: Trump does not have to wait for things to get 413 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: out of hand. Contrary to what these district courts have said. 414 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: I mean, they act as if the only thing that 415 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: counts as an insurrection is January sixth, and none sad 416 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: people in Little Rock who wanted to go to the 417 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: public high school. There were no agents being attacked. There 418 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: was no vandalism. Okay, there there might have been some 419 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 2: rocks thrown and some nasty things said heckling. There's a 420 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: lot of heckling, but it was private individuals and the 421 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: governor of the state, Democratic governor, Democrats opposing black kids 422 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: going to white schools. And Eisenhower said, and I think 423 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: Trump and his advisors should read those proclamations that a 424 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 2: few misguided individuals cannot be enough to stop the enforcement 425 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: of federal law, and if the president doesn't step in, 426 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: total anarchy will result. There was not any there was 427 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: not burning down buildings. It was they weren't following one 428 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: Supreme Court decision. And War hero Ike sends in the 429 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: one hundred and first Airborne. 430 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: And it's even more egregious now because it's when the 431 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: governors don't do it. You have just random district attorneys 432 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: announcing that their municipality or their county, well, they will 433 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: not follow immigration laws immigration detainers. The Democrats had had 434 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: a big election victory in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, which is 435 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: a county that Trump won. The AG office flow the 436 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: DA's office flipped and the DA said, well, we're not 437 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: going to comply with ice anymore. Excuse me, you represent 438 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: You're the district attorney for one count You're just sitting 439 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: there and saying, no, the federal law doesn't matter to 440 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: me anymore. I think it's I think that's completely insane 441 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: that they do this. And you're right about the Supreme 442 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Court sitting there and saying that their states have no 443 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: authority on this matter whatsoever. You don't control your own 444 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: fiefdom because you're elected governor. It is it's bizarre to 445 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: me that they think that they are like the president 446 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: of the state of Minnesota or the state of Maine 447 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: or anything like that. 448 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: No, I mean, if anything, I mean there are carve outs. 449 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: This court didn't say this, though Scalia did. Yeah, of course, 450 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: the states should have the right to exclude people. They 451 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 2: ought to be able to go beyond immigration law and 452 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: have their own No, we don't want you living in 453 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: our state. I mean talk about tradition. They absolutely did 454 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: that in colonial times. It was called what was it, 455 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: there's something out law? But if you can just wander 456 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: from town to town, because they would take care of 457 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 2: their own widows and orphans. So if you walked into 458 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: the next town, Mom was pretty I think I sided 459 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: this in Adios America, for Mom was particularly aggressive. You 460 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: wander to the next town, they'd come and check you 461 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 2: out the town elders to see if you could support yourself, 462 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 2: and if you couldn't, they'd say move a long buster. 463 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 2: So you want to have the right, by common sense, 464 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: by constitutional law, by our nation's history, for a state 465 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: to go extra and say you may have let these 466 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: people in federal government, but we're not letting them in 467 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: because we don't want to have to support them. Okay, 468 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court doesn't actually agree with me on that yet, 469 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: they say federal government wins. Federal government wins. Federal government wins, 470 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 2: but I may as well get in what I think 471 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 2: the real constitution. 472 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: Should be right. And the thing is is that if 473 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: these municipalities are these states comply with immigration laws and 474 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: ICE detainers, there wouldn't need to be this giant show 475 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: of force from ICE. There is not a giant show 476 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: of force from ICE in most parts of Texas or Florida, 477 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: for example, where they're having these you know, conflicts, these huge, 478 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: but it's because when an illegal is getting arrested, they're 479 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 1: going to ICE to be deported immediately. I mean, there's 480 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: a huge turnover. And that's why Florida and Texas lead 481 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: in the number one and number twesday with the most 482 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: illegals being deported right now in it I think it 483 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: was from januinity October was thirty thousand out of Texas 484 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 1: and flam like twenty three thousand out of Florida, and 485 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: then California's below, which is crazy given how many more 486 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: people are there. But that's why these conflicts are being 487 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: set up the way that they are is because they're 488 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: not even trying to get out the criminal portion. 489 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, like forget about. 490 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: Like the cleaning lady. They don't want the criminals to lead. 491 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: That's who are missing in this entire thing. 492 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: Yes, and if they didn't just hand over their criminals, 493 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: you really wouldn't have to worry about, you know, the 494 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 2: lovely cleaning lady. Everybody's worried about be yeah, still, because 495 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: they're just being handed over. They get to sit in 496 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: a nice jail, get their three squares a day. And 497 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: if there's any question about whether they're a citizen or not, 498 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 2: there was plenty of time to check that. 499 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: Out, right. And also, I don't know if you saw this, 500 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: you remember seeing this, but there was George Stephanopolis was 501 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: on ABC and a show on ABC, and he was 502 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: talking about this is when the National Guard were being 503 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: sent into Illinois or California or something like that. And 504 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: George Stephanopolis, being the historian, he has said that a 505 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: president has never defied a state's order not to send 506 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: in the national Guard, which, obviously, in the case of Arkansas, 507 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: I promise you White Eisenhower did not have the authority 508 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: of the governor of Arkansas to send in the National Guard, and. 509 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: Standing in the school house door, they were expressly sending 510 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: in troops because of what the Democratic governors were saying 511 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: and doing and standing in the school house door. You know, 512 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: I described this in the in my podcast going up later, 513 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: But there was New York Times editorial about this. They 514 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: at least are smarter than George Stephanopolis. But how do 515 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: they get around this sticky Wickett. So they had an 516 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: editorial when the troops first one into LA and they 517 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 2: mention Eisenhower, and of course JFK who somehow was more heroic. 518 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 2: I'm a democrat going after a democrat. Eisenhower had already 519 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: done it, so obviously what Eisenhower did was more courageous 520 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: and powerful. Yet and still, how does the New York 521 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 2: Times explain this? They cite it and then say, but segregationists, 522 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: And I don't know if you said conservatives, they couldn't 523 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: have said republicans. Conservatives howled about it then, and they're 524 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: still howling about it. Right, Well, okay, when does is 525 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: that part of the constitutional law or your analysis New 526 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: York Times, when hey, nobody is howling about it so 527 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: factually false. But let's say you're right, New York Times, 528 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: when conservatives howl about something that means we don't enforce 529 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: the constitution, is that it. No, they just slipped that in. 530 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: And I wonder how many of these great, you know, 531 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: educated New York Times readers there just go over that 532 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: sentence and oh, yeah, that doesn't count because conservatives held. 533 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: Well, then that's that's their way of getting out it. 534 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: But you tweeted over the last week about CNN's coverage 535 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: of the immigrations. The fact that there are people who 536 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: go on network news cable news and say that crossing 537 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: the border is not a crime is it's truly actually 538 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: astounding where it is not just an informed opinion, it 539 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: is what I wish the world to be. And they 540 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: don't have I mean, I don't think MSNBC or even 541 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: have anyone on who know a thing about immigration law. 542 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: Or maybe they know when they're aggressively lying. But I 543 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: think we I think we have the answer for why 544 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: they won't put me on TV anymore. Probably you Ryan, 545 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: because there was a conservative, not our love, but someone 546 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: i'd never seen before, you know, a little gal, and 547 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: her heart's in the right place, but she doesn't know 548 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: immigration law either. So when this is a one yeah, okay, 549 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: you know, thanks you for trying transferring your enthusiasm. But 550 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: there's a reason they won't put on people who actually 551 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: know the law because you're a shine. One is saying, no, 552 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: if you I hate this line that if you illegal alien, 553 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: as long as they step across the border and and 554 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: claim request asylum, Well, okay, you got every immigrant rights 555 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: group out there whom we are we are paying for 556 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: through the NGOs handing them out forms explaining you know 557 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: how this is a natiaost America. They actually have tape 558 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: recordings where they're supposed to memorize what their alleged persecution is, 559 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: and they write down the exact words for the illegals, 560 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: so as soon as they get they walk right up 561 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: to the border agents and say, I'm requesting asylum. Okay, 562 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: well I'm under federal law. Then I sent out the 563 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: law last night. No, you have to be detained. The 564 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: word is shell. It's not may and Judge schline whatever 565 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: in Shilah. I think it's Chila. She's saying, no, they 566 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: don't have to be detained. You can be. It's may. 567 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: It says may not shall know it very clearly says shall. 568 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 2: Then my orcists were openly defying federal law for four years. 569 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is the fact that I mean 570 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: can can my orcist be held in contempt or something 571 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,239 Speaker 1: or why. I think the oversychmman he should actually be 572 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: hauling him over for the remaining of the year and 573 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: ask him how did he let this complete invasion? We 574 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: never had someone as bad as him and ahead of 575 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: DHS ever, I mean even under Obama they were not 576 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: like I mean, he was openly rooting for an invasion. 577 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm never thinking back to how insane it was. And 578 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: he was there all four years. Biden never fired him, 579 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: which is the crazier part of the whole thing. Now, 580 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: I want to ask you. So there's a lot of polls. 581 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: They've written two columns on that. By the way, I 582 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 2: think I know Trump has his hands full, so we 583 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: may have to rely on President J. D. Vance to 584 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: do this because there's no statute of limitations on murder. 585 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 2: I think, for one thing, Sergeant James Byrd, who committed 586 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: cold blooded murder against Ashley Babbitt, ought to be tried 587 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: for murder. And I also think my archists could be 588 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: could be tried for accessory to murder, conspiracy to murder. 589 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: He knew, damn well who was coming in that they 590 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 2: were murders. They came in, they murdered Americans. These are 591 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: at least legal theories. 592 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: It actually occurred, right, Well, there's all these polls come 593 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: out right now that's saying that ICE is having a 594 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: negative opinion by most Americans. And I just it was 595 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 1: I was thinking about talking to you about this right 596 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: before I was reading the polls. And it is kind 597 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 1: of amazing how much the Republican Party has changed in 598 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: the sense that they there is no signal whatsoever that 599 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: from politicians, even from very wishy washy politicians, that we 600 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: should stop having ice raids and that we should stop, 601 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: we should scale back ice. I mean, there really has 602 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: been a dramatic transformation in ten years, wouldn't you say? 603 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: It's night and day. I was banned from Fox for 604 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: Addio's America. Now they have, you know, specific immigration reporters, 605 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: and I have to say they're doing they're doing a 606 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: great job. A little late for me, but at least 607 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: people can see what the truth is out there on 608 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: Twitter is pretty great. Elon sounds like he's reading straight 609 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: from Adios American and it's it's amazing. It's it's like 610 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: nothing I've ever seen. 611 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: What could Trump still be doing that he hasn't done? 612 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: Bring the troops home and send them to every sanctuary city, 613 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: state DA's office. He really should do that. This is 614 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: crazy that we have troops in far front flung places 615 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: around the world just waiting for you know, the armshad 616 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: warriors to leap on TV and start telling us about 617 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: the difference between Sunni and Shia and this faction and 618 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: that faction. 619 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: No, how about how. 620 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: About our country? Right, We're not going to be able 621 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: to be the world's policeman if if we become Uganda liberals, 622 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 2: the true Republican warmongers. It's the gravy trains almost over. 623 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: You really ought to think about saving this country. 624 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that actually would be a great slogan for 625 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: presidential race. What about this country? I mean that it 626 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: really is great. Well, what he should do is bring 627 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: the troops on. What everyone should do is subscribe to 628 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: Unsaved with Ankolter. It is a fantastic subtec. I am 629 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: a paid subscriber and thank you for being on this podcast. 630 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me Ryan j'w. Dusky. 631 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: Now it's time for Asking Me Anything. If you want 632 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: a part of the Ask Me Anything segment, email me 633 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: Ryan at numbers gamepodcast dot com. That's Ryan at plural 634 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: numbers gamepodcast dot com. This question from Brian. For those 635 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: who don't know those in the Ryan community shame the 636 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: name Brian, but Brian, I love you for listening. He says, Hi, Ryan, 637 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: I like your data driven method of analysis and listen 638 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: to all your podcasts. Brian, I very much appreciate that. 639 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: I have a question in a couple of friendly jabs, 640 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: what is your opinion of polling averages like what is 641 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: available at Real Clear Politics. Okay, I like Real Clear Politics, 642 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: especially because they've been around for so long. It's good 643 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: as a reference point to look back at old data. 644 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: The problem with Real Clear Politics polling is one they 645 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: are highly selective at which polls they include in their 646 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: polling averages, and sometimes I think some polls should be 647 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: included that are not making the cut. Secondly, their methodology 648 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: of how they accumulate their averages is that it's on 649 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: like a monthly basis. So when you see the snapshot 650 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: of like what the numbers are, it's from the last 651 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: I think it's four weeks. I believe maybe it's five weeks, 652 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: but it's like four weeks of polling, and so when 653 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: that time changes, Let's say you have Let's say you 654 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: have a consistent you know poll where Trump is getting 655 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: forty five percent, and then you see one outlier where 656 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: he's at thirty two or something like that, and numbers 657 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: did the averages dip very low. That outlier will hold 658 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: the averages down for a very very long time because 659 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: they're not continually updated. Nor is there a lot of 660 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: new polling firms what they do or not pulling firms, 661 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: but a lot of new digital media companies that accumulate 662 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: polling information. They weight the polls based on the poll's accuracies. 663 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: So if a polling firm which is always inaccurate, puts 664 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: out a poll and Trump's at seventy five percent or 665 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: twenty percent, they will not wait it for the same 666 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: value that a poll or pull a poll that's usually 667 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: right or right more than it's wrong does. So they'll 668 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: put that poll more weight towards the median and towards 669 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: it towards the the mean rather and the average than 670 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: real clip politics is so not waiting their polls, I 671 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: think is a big problem in two when the poll 672 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: when a new polls show up, which were like for 673 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: you gov does a poll a week, they will just 674 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: drop the last pole put the next poll up. Well, okay, 675 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: that's fine, but if there's a big swing one to 676 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: the other, the last pole shouldn't be completely forgotten like 677 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: they should have it, but maybe not count as much. 678 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: It's fine, like it's a fine resource. It shouldn't be 679 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 1: your only resource. They get a little high on owned supply. 680 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: But I mean, I like them, but I do think 681 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: that there's a little few flaws in there where they 682 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 1: sit there and they do their pulling methodology and how 683 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: they do their polling averages. Second question, why do you 684 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: say sit there so often? I have some friends from 685 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: upstate New York and they regularly use that phrase. I 686 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: don't know. And let me tell you, reading this email 687 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 1: right before we went on, I'm going to really try 688 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: because it's more than one person who says that. I 689 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 1: say the words sit there very very frequently. I've had 690 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: that for a while, and I have tried to work 691 00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: on not using certain phrases consistently. This is going to 692 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: have to be one of them. I don't know why 693 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: I do this. I have no explanation. I am sure 694 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: people in my family say it and I don't even 695 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: recognize it. No, I have weeded myself out of using 696 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: the words like watch McCall it or not for nothing, 697 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: other things that people around me say all the time. 698 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't say them anymore, very frequently. Sit there is 699 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 1: apparently one of them. So thank you for pointing that out. 700 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna monitor my speech in great detail going forward. Finally, 701 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: there's no zen electricity. Do I use z and electricity? 702 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 1: Maybe it's my annunciation, Brian, I don't think Brian. Part 703 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: of it, do you understand? Is I am from New 704 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: York City? Right, there's whole vowels and constance that I 705 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: don't say at all. I have. I mean, and I was, 706 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: I'm from here, like generationally from here. So like, there 707 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: is absolutely no way you could hold me responsible for 708 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: the English language. My grandma made up Italian words and 709 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: told me them as if they were true, and I 710 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: have lived like that, thinking an entire thing is if 711 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: I've got curse words, I still say that she told 712 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: me we're retelling that my friends. I really say that 713 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: those are not real words. So you can't hold me 714 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: to like not being able to speak proper English or 715 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: the King's language. I don't you know. I'm just not there. 716 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: I try. I work on myself. This is like therapy. 717 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: But I apologize. I don't think I said Z and Electricity. 718 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 1: If I did, I will. I thank you for pointing 719 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: that out, and I will try to do better in 720 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: the future. All right, guys, thank you for listening to 721 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: this podcast. I really appreciate it. If you like, please 722 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: like and subscribe on the iheartradiop Apple Podcasts, wherever you 723 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: get your podcast if you're feeling generous, A five star 724 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: review goes a long way to making sure people understand 725 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: where to find this show and click on it and 726 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: it'd be great for me. Thank you guys so much. 727 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: It's talk with you guys on Wednesday.