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Speaker 1: I hope you guys are already rolling.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a stylist myself?

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Speaker 3: This is all you, all of your like peacock colored outfits,

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Speaker 4: I wanted to make sure that my shirt match with

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's get started.

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Speaker 3: So this is a I'm I'm thrilled to have you

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Speaker 3: You bring me so much joy, not only your artistry,

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Speaker 3: because I wanted to have you here as a Father's

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Speaker 3: Day treat. So Father's Day this comes out on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Father's Day is on Sunday. And every time I am.

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Speaker 1: With the two of you together, I can't stop laughing.

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Speaker 3: I can't stop like looking at this relationship of yours.

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Speaker 3: You are such Yin and yang. I don't know a

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Speaker 1: And you're just like I mean, it's just you are.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I think he's the father and you're the son.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin. So I want

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Speaker 3: By asking you, because I love this story, how did

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Speaker 3: you decide? How did he come up?

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Speaker 1: Come up with the name.

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Speaker 4: Lyn Lin Manuel Lyn.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: With we thought this through. I read a poem when

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Speaker 4: because it was a professor Dores Santiago at Hunter, but

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Speaker 4: I read it when I when I lived in Puerto Rico,

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Speaker 4: and it was father who was in Vietnam and when

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Speaker 4: War was very impactful in my life. So I always said,

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Speaker 4: when I have a boy, his name would be ling Manuel.

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Speaker 4: And it was part of the contract with my wife.

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Speaker 4: She if it was a girl, she will name the girl.

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Speaker 4: If it was a boy, his name would be ling Manuel.

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Speaker 2: So much so that when I had a little success

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Speaker 2: who he was married to.

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Speaker 1: First wait and different people.

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Speaker 2: Same person, and U and I got to meet her

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Speaker 2: after the show, and she she lives in Chicago, and

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Speaker 2: I saw the name Linguind and I go, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: that's Louise Midanda's son. We have to go see the show.

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Speaker 1: Because old you told your high school sweetheart, this is this.

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Speaker 4: Is the name. If we have a son, his name

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Speaker 4: will be lying Manuel.

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Speaker 5: What was I like meeting your father's first wife and sweetheart?

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Speaker 2: It was worth it for my mom folded her arms

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Speaker 6: But it was she was very sweet.

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Speaker 4: She's very sweet she is and I had not seen

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Speaker 4: her for fifty years, so I didn't even know.

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Speaker 2: Initially it was that it was that Latin thing of

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Speaker 4: If someone calls me from Luisigro, it's from my task fromland,

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Speaker 4: And then I realized, oh, it's brunilah so but that

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Speaker 3: So okay, so let's talk about your your relationship because

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Speaker 3: you're both I mean, you're both just you're like.

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Speaker 1: Forces of nature. What are you all doings.

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Speaker 2: As I was sitting in the same position as him,

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Speaker 3: All right, So listen, I mean, Lynn, I don't need

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Speaker 3: to introduce you unless somebody has been living under a rock.

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Speaker 3: You know you created and start in Hamilton in the Heights.

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Speaker 3: You've got Moana coming out at the end of in

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Speaker 3: the beginning of next month. In Ganto, Oh my.

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Speaker 1: Favorite of all time.

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Speaker 5: You.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got me watching Disney again as a

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Speaker 1: And you, you know, you also have so much artistry

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Speaker 1: how do you how did this happen?

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Speaker 4: I remember when the kids were little, we will hear

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Speaker 4: And I, Luca and I always talked about that is

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Speaker 4: not going to happen with those We're gonna be involved

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Speaker 3: That you weren't Luis Miranda's son, and Lose Miranda's son.

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Speaker 3: You would have been a Broadway star and and and

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Speaker 1: Right because I mean, like, I mean we you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean when your son comes over to you and says, hey, dad,

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Speaker 6: And and that's what they said. But but I think your.

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Speaker 4: Mom, your mom is always in your horn.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I think that it's all their fault.

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Speaker 2: That's the other Like they couldn't be too mad because

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Speaker 2: at the end of Camelot, like, kids don't look at

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Speaker 2: It's just like dogs. Kids don't look at what you're

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Speaker 2: so they can point at law or point at medicine

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Speaker 2: and be like be a lawyer, be a doctor. But

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Speaker 1: And so when you came and you told them what

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Speaker 2: It wasn't even a matter of telling them. It was

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Speaker 2: a matter of just again, I'm the youngest.

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Speaker 1: Right, so I just did whatever I wanted.

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Speaker 2: Like my sister would have these fights. And again there's

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Speaker 2: I was the baby. I watched my sister be like,

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Speaker 4: I always tell the story. We were sitting in the

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Speaker 4: bring me a coke? Ah? And she looks at me.

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Speaker 4: He's like, refrigerator is one hundred feet away, get up

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Speaker 4: he tells you each of them.

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Speaker 3: And how does how has how has having him as

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Speaker 3: Because you have two sons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, more every day. Honestly I think this.

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Speaker 1: Please don't tell me you're turning into your father.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I went back into the position in a

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Speaker 2: couple of ways. One I think, I think the greatest

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Speaker 2: either of my parents had one job. You know, my

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Speaker 6: And so it was always that work.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm the laziest member of my family and I

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Speaker 2: And so I hope our kids inherit that work ethic

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Speaker 3: How is that though, because I mean so when you

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Speaker 1: You were working. You were working a bunch of jobs

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Speaker 4: Pay your bills. The college in the monthly plan where

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Speaker 4: you ten exact payments every month and we will teach

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Speaker 3: With and your kids are growing up with you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, your kids are growing up with wealth and

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Speaker 3: privilege that was unimaginable to you as you were growing up.

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Speaker 3: So how is how is it different raising kids like that?

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Speaker 1: Or is it?

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Speaker 2: It's two things? One the challenge is the same, Like

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Speaker 2: you want to raise empathetic kids who live in the

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Speaker 2: than anybody else, and we teach that. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think something that helps is we're still in our neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: We still live in Washington Heights. Their grandparents are very close,

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Speaker 2: my in laws are very close. So they're growing up

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Speaker 2: and empathy. But the other ways in which wealth has

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Speaker 2: changed is father couldn't afford all this fancy clothes when

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Speaker 2: I was a kid. Success has changed him way more

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Speaker 2: than it's changed my outlook on my kids. This is

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Speaker 1: I have seen him and head to toe Gucci.

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Speaker 2: No, No, this is this is the this is the

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Speaker 3: But it's also enabled you to be philanthropic, so enabled

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Speaker 4: It's to de regulate them and then I'll send them back.

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Speaker 4: More than strengthened. The relationship was weird in my in

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Speaker 6: All the time that I will call, Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: For me, I have a feeling it's more than half

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Speaker 4: And I talked all the time Guando.

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Speaker 2: Who has this role.

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Speaker 4: Somebody has to be connector of family members and feel

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Speaker 1: Do you still meddle in your kid's life all the time?

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Speaker 2: I will say, though, this is I'm about to pay

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Speaker 6: We had a real.

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Speaker 2: Conversation like a year and a half ago, two years ago,

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Speaker 2: of like, let's figure because we work together.

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Speaker 2: And we had a reel like, let's find the lanes

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Speaker 6: Find the lanes work.

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Speaker 2: I just want you to be my dad and I

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Speaker 2: Smith on us superpower, because he will see any situation

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Speaker 6: It's like you're you're invited to this event, what are

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Speaker 4: But it is his.

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Speaker 2: Superpower and that is immensely helpful for me who has

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Speaker 3: Way, and I was I was thinking about you guys,

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Speaker 3: knowing that we were going to have this interview. I

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Speaker 3: hugged so like, I don't know, what, how did you

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Speaker 3: feel when when when Lynn, you know, it gets nominated

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Speaker 3: when Lynn wins Tony's when Lynn wins, Like, what was

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Speaker 4: For me, it's always, uh, we did something right and

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Speaker 1: So how many do you have?

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Speaker 2: Four?

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Speaker 4: So he has six to go.

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Speaker 2: But such an immigrant parent, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Very competitive, and I always believe that you try them

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Speaker 4: looking forward to Warriors, to his next musical, because again

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Speaker 4: I think it's another piece of art that it's gonna

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Speaker 3: You just called him an immigrant parent. But you're Puerto Rican, right,

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Speaker 3: So you are US citizens, you were born, you know,

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Speaker 1: But it's very cold there. But so okay.

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Speaker 3: So you're Puerto Rican such a huge part of your identity.

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Speaker 3: It comes through in so much of your work. But

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Speaker 3: right because, like I'm constantly telling people, Puerto Ricans are

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Speaker 1: How do you explain that.

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Speaker 4: This is in two weeks into being in New York.

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Speaker 4: the guy sees, oh, Miranda, Oh Miranda, and then I speak.

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Speaker 4: He hears my accent and he says, oh, but I'm

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Speaker 4: not a Miranda of your kind, So our experience doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: That's why the whole thing papers or no papers is

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Speaker 3: And Lynn you you know, I guess your first big

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Speaker 3: hit was In the Heights, which you wrote when you

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Speaker 2: I started when I was nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I hate that you're such a late bloomer.

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Speaker 2: And I figured it out eventually and finished with Kiarah

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Speaker 3: And so and it's I mean, the storyline of In

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Speaker 1: So what But In the Heights is the story of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a love letter to that neighborhood. And

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Speaker 2: I wanted it to sound like you're walking ten blocks

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Speaker 2: And I always thought of In the Heights as like

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Speaker 2: a spiritual sequel to Fiddler on the Roof. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: you left Dan a tefka, you came here to this neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: I live in a neighborhood that has always been an

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Speaker 2: How do you think of home when you know it's here?

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Speaker 2: But it's complicated to be here, and so it really

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Speaker 1: Helen.

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Speaker 3: When you turned In the Heights into a movie, you know,

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Speaker 3: something happened that I tell you broke. Still to this day,

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Speaker 3: I can barely talk about it because it's just it

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Speaker 1: For what colorism?

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Speaker 3: What did they say that the people that you had

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Speaker 1: And to me, I really took offense to that personally, because.

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Speaker 3: You are the guy who cast black and brown people

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Speaker 3: like you, who look like your father, who you know,

444
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 3: and then for you, for this love project, project of

445
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 3: love of yours in the Heights, to be lambasted by

446
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 3: our own people where they're like making you know, Rita

447
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 3: Moreno apologize on a late night show for standing up

448
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: for it. I know, but no, But you know what,

449
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: I disagree with you because I think it has cost

450
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 3: the Latino community, particularly in the arts, long standing harm,

451
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 3: because people are afraid that it won't meet the expectations,

452
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: because people are afraid that if you cast Javier by

453
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: them as Dessi or Nas, there's gonna you know, there's

454
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: gonna be backlash because he's not Cuban by the way

455
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: that he had Nask came from Spain, so there shouldn't

456
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 3: be a problem.

457
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: But there was a problem Nicole Kidman that cast as Lucy.

458
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: She's Australian or wherever the hell she's from, and nobody

459
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: said anything about that. So I don't know that it

460
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: was five seconds because I talk to people in the

461
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: Hollywood industry, white people in the Hollywood industry who have

462
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 3: all the money, who you know, make a bunch of decisions,

463
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: who are wary of making Latino films for fear that

464
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: they will somehow step on cultural landlines.

465
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Speaker 4: My sense is that even if they do, they should

466
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 4: continue to do it. Let me tell you what I

467
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 4: have learned with forty eight years of marriage. You apologize,

468
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 4: You apologize as often as you have to because at

469
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 4: the end of the day, and I remember when it started.

470
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 4: It is the eye of the beholder. If you think

471
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: I'm not dark enough, I can't change the way you feel.

472
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 4: So let's move on. You feel that way, I'm sorry

473
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 4: that you don't think it's dark enough. Now let's go

474
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 4: and enjoy this. So that's how I have gone through life.

475
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: It's what is it that you think? Oh, okay, I

476
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: can let me tell you what I had in my mind.

477
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 4: We may this agree, And I'm sorry you feel that way.

478
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 2: Oh I'm even more zend than that. I mean for

479
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: me the art. What I love about film is is Forever.

480
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: It's a Wonderful Life. Was a poorly reviewed, poorly seen movie,

481
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 2: is now one of considered one of the greatest movies

482
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: of all time. Like its initial birth into the world

483
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: is the rough draft of how it will be seen

484
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 2: by the world. I'm so proud of that movie. I

485
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: was so proud to film that movie in Washington Heights,

486
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: with so many of our own all over the movie,

487
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: like so many neighborhood residents in the movie casting from

488
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 2: the neighborhood. And it's going to be a lot longer

489
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: than the moment it was born in, which is you know,

490
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: a moment where colorism was what we were talking about.

491
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: So of course this giant Hollywood movie, you know, is

492
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: going to be the face of that conversation. And that's okay.

493
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 2: It's good that we have a conversation about colorism. But

494
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: the movie itself outlives the conversation. It lives on its

495
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: own terms over the course of many years.

496
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Speaker 1: Okay, So it's time for me to let go of

497
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: my grudge. Yes, yes, you think I've held it long enough.

498
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: People love that.

499
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 4: Movie and think about the people in that movie are

500
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 4: doing now amazing things.

501
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: Well, one of the people in that movie, who was

502
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: who had a teeny little cameo, But my god, this

503
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: story and I think I said to him, you I

504
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 3: think you made the.

505
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: Movie was Mark Anthony. Mark Anthony.

506
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 5: Okay, but tell the story, because Mark, Mark says to me,

507
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 5: you can't believe.

508
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: What happened to me.

509
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: It's a very funny story.

510
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 6: Okay, you tell am I talking out.

511
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: Of school to tell no, no, no, no, go on Mark.

512
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah. So Mark shows up and the character

513
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: Mark plays is is Sonny's father, who is really you know,

514
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: has an alcohol problem, is not really the most upstanding

515
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: present dad. So he's supposed to look kind of drugged

516
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: out and drunk in the one scene he has. And

517
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: so Mark Anthony goes to the makeup folks and goes,

518
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: all right, what what do I need to do? And

519
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: the lady looks him and goes, goore good. And he

520
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: thought that was so funn He's like, all right, I'm good.

521
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: He's like, I said what He says, Hey, he told

522
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: me this story.

523
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: He said, okay, wardrobe, what do I need to change it?

524
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 6: No?

525
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: Nothing?

526
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: Makeup?

527
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 5: What?

528
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 6: Nothing?

529
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

530
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: He thinks it's hilariously.

531
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Speaker 1: You know, he's performing.

532
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: He's performing at the at the ceremony for the Obama

533
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: sentject and I.

534
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: Was so happy about that. So let's talk about Hamilton. Sure,

535
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: And I want to ask you a few things on Hamilton.

536
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Speaker 3: First, you were one of the first productions to pull

537
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 3: out of the Kennedy Center when the whole thing happened, right,

538
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: So what? And I don't know what costs they had.

539
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: I don't know how much you thought about tell me

540
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: that story.

541
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Speaker 2: It's it was a very simple, uh decision with a

542
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: very interesting dominant effect. You know, the first thing that

543
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: happened one The Kennedy Center has been a nonpartisan theater

544
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: and institution forever truly, Like, you know, Stephen Sondheim got

545
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: his Kennedy Center honor under the Bush administration. Like, it's

546
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: not about politics, it's about recognizing excellence in the arts.

547
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: You know, our current president strips the board of its

548
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: bipartisan members and installs all.

549
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: His guys who know nothing about the art.

550
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: Nothing, and installs a guy who knows even less to

551
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: be in charge of it as the chair. And Jeffrey

552
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: Seller looks at our tour schedule and goes, oh, in

553
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: the Heights. Supposed to play in the Heights. Hamilton is

554
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: supposed to play there in a year and a half.

555
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: And he calls me and Tommy Chale and Louis Medan says,

556
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: we have a problem. This thing just happened and Hamilton's

557
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: supposed to play their next year, and we go have

558
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: they signed the contract? No, yeah, we're not doing that that.

559
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: It was literally a ten second conversation. If there's no contract,

560
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: we're not doing that.

561
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: But then you got a lot of backlash when you

562
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: or you got a lot of you got a lot

563
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: of positive feedback and backlash when you announced.

564
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: That this is not the Kennedy Center that has been

565
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: a nonpartisan bastion of the Arts for as long as

566
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: it's existed. He's stripped it and he's changed it, and

567
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: we're just not going to be a part of it.

568
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: And we we also knew it was going to fall

569
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: on the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary when you were

570
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 2: supposed to be there, and we're not going to, you know,

571
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,239
Speaker 2: have our show next to what is what it's going

572
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: to be? You go from the cage match outside the

573
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: White House to go see how well it's happening.

574
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 6: It's still happening.

575
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: So it was a very simple moral decision from our

576
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: end and simple legal decision because we hadn't signed a

577
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: contract yet. And then you know, the dominoes fall where

578
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: they fall. But I sleep fine at night.

579
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: Have you ever have you ever had second thoughts or

580
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: I'm sure you have had people tell you not to

581
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: be political active, not to take the positions that you do,

582
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: not to go out and defend the community the way

583
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: you do because we all know, I know you know

584
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: that it has costs.

585
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: Sure, so have you had those? You have your managers

586
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: and your PR people and your you know, no.

587
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: Our managers and PR people know who we are, who

588
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: we are, who we are, but you know it's it's

589
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: sometimes those moments are thrust upon you. You know, eleven days

590
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: after the election of twenty sixteen, the then Vice president

591
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: elect Mike Pence came to Hamilton. Oh God, and they

592
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: called us and they said he's coming. And I think

593
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: Jeffrey was like, we want to make a speech before

594
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: the show starts about listen, you ran on division and

595
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: we hope you represent all of us. Literally that simple,

596
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: just like congratulations. We hope you represent all of us.

597
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: And we said, don't do that speech before the show.

598
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: If we believe in our show and the way we

599
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: it upholds American values as we see them, then allow

600
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: the show to do its work and you can make

601
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: the speech after. And we you know, we did our show.

602
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: We did our little speech which basically boiled down to

603
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: represent all of us. And Trump mischaracterized what happened in

604
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 2: that theater and lied in four tweets where he said

605
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: the cast of Hamilton bowed and attacked Vice president like fans,

606
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: which didn't happen. A fiction because this president runs on fiction.

607
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: And that became the first sort of volley in this

608
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: culture war. But it also we realized we were the

609
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: first play in a playbook. That he runs, which is,

610
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: let me go right to the cultural moment. Let me

611
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: show up and say they attacked us. You know, he

612
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: did it again later with when people started kneeling in

613
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: protest at the NFL send a Mike Pence to the game.

614
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: Mike didn't even stay for the game. They send him

615
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: to a game. They say, he it's booed and they go,

616
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: we were attacked. It's this throw a rock and then

617
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: say we were attacked. So we found ourselves in these

618
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 2: cultural moments. But again like we we respect anyone who comes.

619
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Speaker 3: And when you talk about cultural moments that are thrust

620
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: on you, I can't think of one that was more

621
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: poignant than Maria. Hurricane Maria where the mirandas had to

622
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 3: step up, yeah, and.

623
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: Had to respond and had to be part of helping.

624
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I want to talk about Father's Day, all

625
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: hands on deck. That really became everyone do what you

626
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: are best suited to do. As the hurricane was making landfall,

627
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: I started writing a song. I was like, this is

628
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: going to be really bad. We're gonna need to raise money.

629
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: And all I could think to do was, let me

630
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: write a song. You're on vacation with you. I was

631
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 2: on vacation. I was, I was not in the United States,

632
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: and I literally hold up in the bathroom. My wife

633
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: and kids are kid were you know, sleeping and wrote

634
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: I wrote almost like praying, and the lyric was just

635
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: every pueblo in Puerto Rico as like a prayer, as

636
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: like a prayer to protect them. And then as we

637
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: realized how bad it was, it was like, all right,

638
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: let me get my Rolodex and call all the Latinos

639
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: who are here on the island. We flew to la

640
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: we flew to Miami. It happened within a week. Luis

641
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: is the founder of Hispanic Federation. They were the first

642
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: ones to make landfall from New York with relief and supplies,

643
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 2: and we basically for the better part of a year

644
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: put our lives on hold just to jump up and

645
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: down and raise money and get aid and supplies to

646
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: Perodico and for Roles.

647
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: It was also all of my life I have been

648
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 4: pro independence in Puerto Rico. I always believe people have

649
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: to take care of themselves. And this is the first

650
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 4: time because remember it, this is way before Bad Bunny,

651
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: way before Bad Bunny, where people in Puerto Rico realized,

652
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: oh shit, help is not coming help. It's coming from

653
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: our brothers and sisters in the United States and ourselves,

654
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: so we better get ready and we better begin to

655
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 4: help ourselves. I remember meeting with builde Blasio, who was

656
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 4: the mayor then, and said, we need stuff, and I'll

657
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 4: open all the fire departments throughout the buildings throughout for

658
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: people to take stuff. And then we figure out that's

659
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 4: to cumbersome to take all of that in Puerto Rico.

660
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: And then we went and talked to stores, Well, we

661
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: have stuff in Puerto Rico. We'll sell it cheaper, but

662
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: we need to so we change strategies. But it was

663
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: something that we did, very deliberate and very thinking what

664
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 4: is that we need to do.

665
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: But Louise, help would have come the same way that

666
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: it went to Texas that was also affected by a

667
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 3: hurricane that year, the same way that it went to Florida.

668
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: I mean, except that you know it was Trump who

669
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: showed up and threw paper towels.

670
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: Correct, and there's you know the so.

671
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 3: I mean that kind of inequality, and you know you

672
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: just brought up bad bunny. And I don't know if

673
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: I've told you guys this story. I might have told you,

674
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: but told you, Louise, But you know, I had a

675
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: very close friend, Christy Halberger, you know her, who was

676
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: working in the Kamala campaign, and she was one of

677
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 3: her roles was Latino surrogacy and Latino celebrities and getting

678
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: us all together and getting.

679
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: Us out there.

680
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: And they contact Bad Bunny and his team and he says, now,

681
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: we're not getting involved.

682
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: We're not getting involved.

683
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: We got involved four years, you know, we got involved

684
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: with Biden and we didn't get what we wanted. He

685
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: didn't do anything that we wanted for Puerto Rico. We're

686
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: not getting involved. We're not worth sitting this out. And

687
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 3: they stay on him, and they stay on him and

688
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: they stay on him, and his team says, okay, tell

689
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: you what.

690
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: Here's here's what Bad Bunny wants. Here's the list of things.

691
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 3: Involving the Jones Act, involving equality, involving the electric grid.

692
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: They put up an entire list of a Puerto Rico agenda,

693
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: and they said, until and unless Kamala Harris commits to

694
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: this Puerto Rico agenda, you know, we don't do it.

695
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 3: So they talked to her, they went through the entire thing,

696
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: and she committed to that Puerto Rican agenda, and Bad

697
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: Bunny came out and endorsed her and the the the

698
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: coincidence was that all of this happened the day after

699
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: the Trump rally in Madison's Square Garden, where that comedian

700
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: called Puerto Rico a floating island of trash. So people

701
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: thought Bad Bunny had been was react to that horrible,

702
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: horrible schrolur against Puerto Rico.

703
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: He wasn't.

704
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: He'd been working on a serious Puerto Rican agenda. And

705
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 3: you know that impressed me so much because so many

706
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: celebrities but they're like, Okay, we want to get invited

707
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: to the White House Christmas Party, we want to be

708
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: invited to a state dinner. We want to you know,

709
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: we want the our nanny to be able to get

710
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: a visa at the embassy. And you know, in Manawa whatever,

711
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: Bad Bunny like you, the mirandas you lead with a

712
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: specific agenda, and this is not about you the people,

713
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: is not about you the celebrity. It's about this is

714
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 3: our community. This is our agenda, this is what we want.

715
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: And I've been so impressed by Bad Bunny in the

716
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 3: same way that I'm impressed by you in that regard.

717
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: Well, that halftime show was like all of it right,

718
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: Like they were trying so hard to paint him as

719
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: this divisive, evil man. And then he hosts a wedding.

720
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: He throws an actual wedding on the felt old he

721
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: shows and the specificity and love with which he paints

722
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: our community which comes from an honest, authentic place. Like

723
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: my favorite part was the little boy asleep on two

724
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: plastic chairs, because we've all been that kid at the

725
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: grown up party and and so you know, it's it

726
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: has been beautiful to watch, you know, the world's biggest

727
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: global artist who grew up in Puerto Rico and represents

728
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: it beautifully and speaks so eloquently as to what it.

729
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: Has and what it He's from the town next to you, guys, right,

730
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 3: you're from Vega Alta and he's from Vegabaha.

731
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 4: He is from Mega Baja, Yeah he is. But you know,

732
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 4: when when we did Maria, we debated a little bit

733
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 4: do we work with central government, and we said, you

734
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 4: know what, let's continue with this theme of the song

735
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 4: where you have all towns at the song, it's about

736
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 4: all the towns. So we literally started working with organizations

737
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: and mayors in all of this.

738
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: Time they knew what their communities needed. We figured a

739
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: top town approach it.

740
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 4: And believe me, it proved us right. When then bad

741
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: things start happening, when when they kept seeing things that

742
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 4: were not coming from towns. But we decided it will

743
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 4: be more work. It's much more difficult to work with

744
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of mayors and organizations that with won

745
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 4: central government. But at the end he paid off.

746
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: You know, Mark Anthony said to me after the Bad

747
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: Bunny halftime show he made he made an observation that

748
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: I don't think I had thought about because I don't

749
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: see it from an artist perspective, right, And he said,

750
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 3: you know, most of the people who performed the halftime show,

751
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: the halftime show is about them. How many costume changes

752
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: they have, what clothes they're wearing, They're hanging from chandeliers,

753
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: they're you know, being they're swinging from a rope, They're

754
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 3: doing this, they're doing that. He may have been referring

755
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: to job So and he said.

756
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: A bad Bunny. That bunny made it about the culture

757
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: and made it about the music.

758
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. And he also, by the way, said it took

759
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: part America, and he named all the Americas Latin America

760
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: Canada has never been so happy to be part of

761
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: a clique.

762
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: They were.

763
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: Guiana. Yeah, I mean.

764
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: It was, it was really it was such a generous

765
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: super Bowl and and really founded in love, very very

766
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: proud to be Puerto Rican that day with.

767
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: Him, and you went you actually did you went to

768
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: the concert the residency he did in Puerto Rican?

769
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

770
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you go to we did?

771
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: Did you go together?

772
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: Le Manuel Casita?

773
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 3: The last thing I would that you would strike me

774
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: as is a reggae tornado.

775
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: Oh I I love that.

776
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: That was a Broadway musical. That show, it was like

777
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: a Broadway musical about Puerto Ricosa in the middle.

778
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 6: It's a it's a show.

779
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 4: What we did. We brought a whole bunch of philanthropists,

780
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 4: heads of foundations to see the show so that they

781
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 4: will continue to be.

782
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: Involved with organizations in Puerto Rico.

783
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: I tell you there is something that I regret as

784
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: having missed it. I was I was out of the

785
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: country and I wasn't able to get to Puerto Rico

786
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: because I mean, still to this day when I'm having

787
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: a bad day, I play on a loop the moment

788
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 3: that Mark Anthony came out and sang Preciosa with bad Bunny.

789
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: That just I mean, I played.

790
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: On a loop like if it was porn, over and

791
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 3: over and over again.

792
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: I want to watch this, this.

793
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: Most beautiful generational moment.

794
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: I want to go back to Hamilton because it's the

795
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: two hundred and fiftieth anniversary.

796
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: You just made reference to that.

797
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: If you you know, you would have been at the

798
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: Kennedy Center on the two hundred and fiftieth this year.

799
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: What do you think, Hamilton, what do you think the

800
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: founding fathers would think of the moment we're living through.

801
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I mean I have

802
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: my fictional rapping version of them, which is very different

803
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: from who they probably were. You know. I think for

804
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: what interested me about that story as someone who was

805
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: not an American history buff growing up, Like I wrote

806
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: a paper on Hamilton in high school. That's how I

807
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: knew enough about him to want to read that Ron

808
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: cher Now's amazing biography. And then I started reading the

809
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: book and I was like, this is just an amazing story.

810
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: History aside, But I think one of the things that

811
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: attracted me to that story was that Hamilton was the

812
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: outsider among the founders. He was not born to Virginian,

813
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: you know, farm stock. He did not come over on

814
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: the Mayflower. He was born under really difficult circumstances in Nevs.

815
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: Then moved to Saint Croix and got here on the

816
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: strength of his intellect. He wrote a poem about a

817
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: hurry king that destroyed the Caribbean, and on the strength

818
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: of his writing, got a scholarship to New York like Echtachi,

819
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: same deal. So he reminded me of my father, first

820
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: of all. He also reminded me of my father and

821
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: his inability to be content accomplishing one thing. He was

822
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: always sort of like, what's next, What's next? I always

823
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: tell people when I play Hamilton, I'm laid back, I'm

824
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 2: easy breezy. When I'm playing Hamilton, I'm playing Luis Miranda,

825
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: because to me, it is the story. It's a proto

826
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: version of the immigrant story. We come from somewhere else,

827
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: we help build this nation. We're always viewed with suspicion

828
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: because we weren't born here.

829
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: I had never heard of that. Did you know that

830
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: that you had inspired the way he plays Hamilton?

831
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 4: No, Hamilton did, but yes, I had heard him talk

832
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 4: about about that.

833
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: My dad's favorite sentence is Okay, what else? It's a

834
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: lyric in Hamilton. He's like, Okay, we did that. What else?

835
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: Okay? So what else? Guys?

836
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 3: So I know Moana is about to come out, So

837
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: what else? Tell me about Octaed and Moana?

838
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 6: Sure, well Malana.

839
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I've just breathed a huge sigh of relief

840
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: the moment they said Tommy Cale is directing Malana. Because

841
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: Tommy Cale first took a chance on me in the

842
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 2: basement of the drama Bookshop, directed in the Heights, directed Hamilton,

843
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 2: He's probably he's my I probably talked to him more

844
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: than anyone in my life.

845
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: You talk to him more than you talk to your fither.

846
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 6: I talked to him every morning.

847
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: He is an innate ability to call me right when

848
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: I'm taking a shower.

849
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 6: I mean, I bring him in.

850
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's going on? And so yeah, I FaceTime

851
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 2: with Tommy Cale every morning, whether we're working together or not.

852
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: And so the fact that he was going to be

853
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: in charge of the movie made me breathe easy, and

854
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: it was a joy, like getting to go to Hawaii

855
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 2: with my family to watch him finish production and film

856
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: the movie. Writing a new song for not only our

857
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 2: current our live action Mowana Katie, but our og Mawana Ali,

858
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: who's become such an incredible singer and actress. She was

859
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: a literal kid when we met her on this movie

860
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 2: all those years ago, and now she's just an outstanding

861
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: performer and human in her own right. So writing a

862
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: duet between them was really fun and the movies great.

863
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 3: Linn, I have to ask you because this song I

864
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: just couldn't get rid of the song for this is

865
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: another thing that I played on a loop when I

866
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: was having a bad day.

867
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: We can't talk. We don't talk about Bruno? Yeah, how

868
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: did you?

869
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 4: I mean?

870
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 3: Is that somehow inspired by There's because there's nothing. I

871
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 3: feel like, there's nothing in your family that you don't

872
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: talk about?

873
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: Or is there something? Is there a Bruno in your family?

874
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: Well it's funny, I really I think of Encanto as

875
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: my lockdown musical. You know, most of it was written

876
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, and in twenty twenty we took on

877
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: my in law, my wife's brother, who was living in

878
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 2: downtown Manhattan, which was a scary place to live during COVID,

879
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: So he came up to live with us and the

880
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 2: oldest members of our family, which are my wife's parents.

881
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: So my in laws are living with me, My brother

882
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: in law is living with me. It is not an accident.

883
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 2: We get from there to we don't talk about Bruno

884
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: because the subtext of it is what are we allowed

885
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 2: to talk about in front of your mother?

886
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 4: Right?

887
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 6: And it's about a family all cooped up together.

888
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: And you know, the joy of writing in Gantol really

889
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 2: was throwing all of our family stories in the pot.

890
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: But like at the inside, each song is a kernel

891
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: of truth. You know, there are the stories that you

892
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 2: can tell with your brother and sister that you don't

893
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: say in front of your parents.

894
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 4: Right.

895
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: Surface pressure, which is Luisa's song at the bottom of

896
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: that song is how do I keep my family safe?

897
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 2: And who am I if I can't keep my family

898
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: in the midst of this global pandemic? So all of

899
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: those fears and all of those concerns are in the

900
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: DNA of that music written at that moment.

901
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 3: And is that the one that you get Oscar nominated for.

902
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: You're all dressed up and ready to.

903
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: Go in La and one of you gets Covidvan got COVID,

904
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: got COVID, but you weren't.

905
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: No, No, we all watched it at the home we

906
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: rented in La and wait here's.

907
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: But you were like you were like in full Gold Live.

908
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: Because we continue to be dressed.

909
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: We got dressed in our house to take pictures, to

910
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: take pictures. But then I mean smash cut to we're

911
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: watching the Oscars. Will Smith slaps Chris Rob walks back

912
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: to his seat, which I know is like three feet

913
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: from where I was supposed to sit. And I remember saying, everybody,

914
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: say thank you Vanessa, because.

915
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 6: I would have been a meme.

916
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: I would have been a meme like this had I

917
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: been at the ceremony that night at the.

918
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: When you watch that happen, did you think it was

919
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: part of an or did you think.

920
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 6: Everyone else was in disbelief?

921
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 4: And we knew? Uh the director of the show, I

922
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 4: am texting him and his wife was that part of

923
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 4: the show and his wife takes back right away was.

924
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: No, So I would I mean never good to be

925
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: grateful for COVID, But I was grateful than ASA got

926
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: us out of the Oscars that Sunday.

927
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, and no, Nobles, we all decided that, you know,

928
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: we we've been big proponents of what do you do

929
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 4: to get saved from COVID? So for some of us

930
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: to go and others don't make no and.

931
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: Had a great time and got dressed up.

932
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 4: No, no, we've heard.

933
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: I saw on the pictures you were far more dressy

934
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: than he was.

935
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 4: He didn't wore shoes.

936
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: What do you mean?

937
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 4: He had the talks.

938
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 2: But he decided there's no one more chronically online than

939
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: we made up. He's like a teenage girl.

940
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 6: In the picture we took together.

941
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: Why would I put on my shoes?

942
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 6: The shoes are the most uncomfortable part.

943
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 2: So I was barefoot in the in Galanau picture we took.

944
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: Hey, cl I deal with that.

945
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, chronically online. Let's talk talk about Octet.

946
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 2: Sure. Octet is a brilliant musical I saw off Broadway

947
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen by my friend Dave molloy, and it's

948
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: it's about a recovery group for Internet addicts, and each

949
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: one sort of comes by their addiction differently. One is

950
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: addicted to online gaming, one cannot stop dating apps. There's

951
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: a woman in the show who says, you all recognize

952
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 2: me from my White Woman Goes Crazy video. So she's

953
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: like a canceled Karen who's had an incident, a rage incident,

954
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 2: and has become a living meme, but she can't stop

955
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 2: reading negative things about herself. And I just think it's

956
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: one of the most brilliant musicals I've ever seen. And

957
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: so it's so incredibly timely, and by the way, timely

958
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen and even more time right now. And

959
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: so you know, I just I couldn't stop thinking about it.

960
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: I think you can only chase the ideas that don't

961
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: leave you alone. And so I contacted Dave and said,

962
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: I would love to adapt this musical into a film,

963
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 2: and so we shot. I just finished production last week.

964
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: We filmed it locally. We filmed it upstate and Yonkers,

965
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: and not upstate. Upstaters will get mad at me if

966
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: I say that we filled it up the road in

967
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: Yonkers and h and just had the most killer cast

968
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 2: of musical theater avengers possible. A man the Seiphried Rachel

969
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: Zegler from My My Crew, Pipa su and Jonathan Groff,

970
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: the brilliant Tremel Tillman who you know from Severance, getting

971
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:51,959
Speaker 2: out of Rozzo from Stranger Things. Just Ralph Charlie, Ralph,

972
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 2: one of the original dream Girls.

973
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 3: I ran into her at the upfronts. She was so

974
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: excited about it and telling me just how much fun.

975
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 2: She was time. It was a dream dream project.

976
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 4: Is that my wife? When once Uh.

977
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 6: Went to what he doesn't like to get proper nouns, and.

978
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 4: She went to a dead once. She actually win twice,

979
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 4: but the first time she just.

980
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: The Broadway show the film.

981
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: Film Alie Manuel sat her at a chair while they

982
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 4: were changing cameras and lights so that there was a body.

983
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I made her a standard. I was like, if

984
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: you're gonna be on your phone, sit here and will light,

985
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: will light you.

986
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 4: Louis comes back home and she said he was like

987
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: in a play day. It's like for all of this day,

988
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 4: he goes to a play day every single day.

989
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: Well, I meant my happiest when I'm making something. So,

990
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: you know, directing is is is just the absolute joy

991
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: of joys. Is what I wanted to do first.

992
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: So what's okay? So You've you wrapped up Moana, You've

993
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: wrapped up Octech.

994
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: What's next, Well, you know, hopefully Warriors. So I've been

995
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: working on Warriors with Easter Davis for the past couple

996
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 2: of years and we're working on bringing that to on

997
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 2: bringing that to New York.

998
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm excited about is Buena Vista Social

999
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: Club that you're both producers in the Broadway show that

1000
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 3: one Tony's coming to Miami. It's going on the road. Yes, finally,

1001
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 3: are you guys gonna come down to Miami for the

1002
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 3: I don't.

1003
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 4: Know if to be opening it's gonna be. I know

1004
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 4: that I am gonna go.

1005
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: It's gonna be extraordinary.

1006
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1007
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I'm gonna go watch it every

1008
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 3: night that I'm in Miami because I love that show

1009
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: so much.

1010
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 1: And what's next for you, Louise?

1011
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: Uh?

1012
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 4: For me, I want to begin to help li Manuel

1013
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 4: in whichever way I can. I sold my companies where

1014
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 4: I spent a lot of time on lobbying and politics.

1015
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 4: Politics continues to be it's part of my But this year,

1016
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 4: for example, we're concentrating on five Latinos who will slip

1017
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 4: horrible Republicans.

1018
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: Or who are they?

1019
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 4: We have a candidate in Colorado, one in South California,

1020
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 4: one in Arizona, one in Omaha, Nebraska, and one in

1021
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 4: New Jersey. So far, for have won their primaries. Because

1022
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 4: what happened with Latinos is the party doesn't pick us

1023
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 4: to be the candidate. We have to fight it out

1024
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 4: in the primary, and then we face the incumbent. And

1025
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: I'm concentrated.

1026
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 3: And when you say you're talking about the organization that

1027
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 3: you've founded, Latino VI, we're doing it.

1028
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 4: Through Latino Victory. But it's really I have now corraled

1029
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 4: all of my family to do this.

1030
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: Well, having you been doing that your entire life?

1031
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 6: Still at the drive? Yes?

1032
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 4: Yes, in fact, you know, for the primary, we brought

1033
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 4: the candidates to New York and they had a fundraiser

1034
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 4: and divided and li Manuel to the video for each

1035
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 4: of the candidate and and and we wen.

1036
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: Do you ever say no?

1037
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: I say all the time no to him? Oh yeah,

1038
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 2: I say no to him all the time. But but

1039
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: when it's something I agree with, like we these are

1040
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: districts that need to flip. I'm happy to help.

1041
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: What's giving you hope.

1042
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: What's giving me hope is that we've never been in

1043
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: a more divided time. And we had the Benito Bowl,

1044
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like we're still here, we

1045
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: still choose joy, we still know our value and and

1046
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: we have each other's backs. And I think more and

1047
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 2: more across our divisions Latino, Puerto Rican, Cuban Dominican. I

1048
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: think there's a greater understanding that we're so much stronger together.

1049
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: So much of an Heights is about that. It's about

1050
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: what we share. It's not actually about the differences ins.

1051
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 4: And and for me, you know, Buena Vista is an

1052
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 4: example of how a culture can thrive on Broadway. When

1053
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 4: I got the treatment for going Varsity in Mariachi, oh, I.

1054
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: Love that movie.

1055
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 6: Again.

1056
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 4: In my head, it's like this needs to exist because

1057
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: in my head, Texas it's the place where you have

1058
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 4: a horrible governor who tries to do horrible things for Latinos,

1059
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 4: and there is all of these Mariachi kids keeping Mexican

1060
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 4: culture alive. So in my head, I want to do more.

1061
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: We just saw where some of these Mariachi kids were

1062
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: detained by ice, but I can't believe that I didn't

1063
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: know about that movie.

1064
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, I got on American

1065
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 3: Airlines and there's this movie called Varsity, and I'm like,

1066
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 3: I need to Okay, let me watch this and I

1067
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 3: and then I see produced by Louis Miranda, it is

1068
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 3: the most.

1069
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: Beautiful, wonderful movie.

1070
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 3: I hope you do more of that because the world

1071
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 3: needs to see more of that. I'm gonna let you

1072
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 3: guys go because I know you know, I can talk

1073
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 3: to you the.

1074
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: Rest of the day, and I know Lynn Manuel.

1075
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 3: Has a press tour that he's on. Yes, when does

1076
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: so Moana comes out? July tenth and optet, I don't know.

1077
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: I just finished wrapping it, so I gotta go edit

1078
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: it and we'll probably take it to festivals.

1079
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: And how long is that process?

1080
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, honestly, like, I'll be done

1081
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: editing it by the end of the year and then

1082
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: we'll submit it to festivals. But we we really like

1083
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: financed it ourselves and just it needed to exist, so

1084
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: we made it.

1085
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 4: And remember he did this in between gigs. He knew

1086
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 4: that he had three months, so he said, okay, so

1087
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 4: now we have to go and raise the money and

1088
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 4: make sure it happens when he is between gates.

1089
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever turn off all the time? I

1090
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: would to end with this story because it was fantastic.

1091
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 3: They were just telling me about how you took him

1092
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 3: to see he Man.

1093
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 2: Sure he took me to see Dolph London in nineteen

1094
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: eighty nine. It was in nineteen eighty seven at the

1095
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: now no longer existing Coliseum on one hundred and eighty

1096
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: first stream.

1097
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 4: And I took you to see Human Life at Radio

1098
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: City Music Halls.

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Speaker 2: When I was younger than that. So I took him

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Speaker 2: to see the new he Man movie last weekend.

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Speaker 1: And what happened?

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Speaker 2: I scream screams. He's like, I scream all the time.

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Speaker 2: And I love taking him to action movies because he cannot.

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Speaker 2: When I was a kid, he would take me to

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Speaker 2: Vendam and sigal and anytime they bend someone's army. Who

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Speaker 2: is that loud lady in the audience. It's leading me

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Speaker 2: a don But it's so entertaining to watch him scream.

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Speaker 2: So he Man.

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Speaker 5: What you also talk about, though, like watching him watch

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Speaker 5: his favorite famed music all that he's watched one hundred times.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there put on show the Greatest Showman.

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Speaker 2: Greatest Showman. Yeah that's his that's his favorite movie.

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Speaker 1: But listen, I wait, that's your favorite movie. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a Sound of Music.

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Speaker 4: No, my favorite movie. It's The Unsinkable Malli.

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Speaker 2: I thought we'd go an hour before I'm talking, but

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Speaker 2: here we are. If you want to understand my father,

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Speaker 2: go watch Debbie Reynolds and the Unsinkable Molly Brown. It

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Speaker 2: is about a girl in a small town who wants

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Speaker 2: to get out and that sweetemeat On don Ve Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 2: Just I'm in a small town, but I dream big.

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Speaker 2: I want to go to New York and have air

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Speaker 2: conditioning and a big brass bed.

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Speaker 4: I just went campaigning for a candidate in Denver, Colorado,

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Speaker 4: and the Mali Brown Museum was closed, but I went

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Speaker 4: and took a picture in front.

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Speaker 1: It's your favorite movie.

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Speaker 2: My favorite movie. I'm a nerd, so I'm a film nerd.

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Speaker 2: So my favorite movie seven Samurai, which I showed my

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Speaker 2: kids this year for my birthday. They said, what do

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Speaker 2: you want to do for your birthday? And I had

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Speaker 2: a twelve movie marathon and we watched some kids movies.

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Speaker 2: Who watched Mulan, We watched Ghostbusters?

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Speaker 1: But I was like, Vanessa, lets you show your kids.

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Speaker 2: I said, kids, this movie is three and a half

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Speaker 2: hours long. It's in black and white, and it's in Japanese.

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Speaker 2: But it is the best movie ever made. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 2: They loved it. They loved it because it's a great movie.

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Speaker 2: And now they're both old enough to read subtitles, so

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Speaker 2: they loved it.

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Speaker 1: Do people know you're married to like this brilliant engineer.

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Speaker 2: Everyone who knows us does? I mean, when I won

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Speaker 2: the MacArthur Genius Award, every call I got from people

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Speaker 2: who know us were like it said Vanessa's name on there, right, Like,

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01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: surely there's been a clerical error. But yes, my wife

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Speaker 2: is the smartest person I know, and I t grad

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Speaker 2: she's now an attorney.

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Speaker 1: And I've heard you say that about your wife.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Louis Is she's also the opposite of me, you know,

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Speaker 4: Lose is very chill and the most chill person I know,

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Speaker 4: and quite frankly, it's the only way our marriage can

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Speaker 4: work because because I could understand, I could be a

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Speaker 4: bit much. So I need someone who's chill.

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Speaker 2: And I will say I think the best model Day

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Speaker 2: showed in terms of their marriage and how you grow

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Speaker 2: up and what you look for when when when you're

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Speaker 2: looking for a partner is they had very different lives

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Speaker 2: and they're very happy to see each other at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day. And I think that's that was

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Speaker 2: an amazing thing to model. My wife has a very

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Speaker 2: different job with very different responsibilities than I do, but

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Speaker 2: we're very happy to see each other.

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Speaker 4: The pandemic. The only good thing of the pandemic. I

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Speaker 4: remember hell and loose because for three months we were

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Speaker 4: by ourselves facetiming people. I said, you know what, I

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Speaker 4: really love you.

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Speaker 6: The pandemic was a marriage test for a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 6: It was for us.

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Speaker 2: The test was not our marriage that was fine. It

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Speaker 2: was kindergarten zoom because my son was in kindergarten and

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Speaker 2: it was like, you're putting kids who can't read in

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Speaker 2: front of a screen all day. They're expected to click the.

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Speaker 6: Button to go into the next zoom room.

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Speaker 2: So we would have a glass of wine ready for

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Speaker 2: whoever was overseeing kindergarten zoom that day.

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Speaker 3: My husband says it was his favorite time ever the

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Speaker 3: pandemic because I was, you know, locked up in the house,

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Speaker 3: not traveling, cooking, making food Instagram And I'm like.

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Speaker 1: Did we go through the same pandemic because.

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Speaker 3: They were the two most miserable years of my life.

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Speaker 3: But anyways, I wish you guys the best.

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Speaker 4: Celebrating we are believe it or not. Seen Encanto the

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Speaker 4: Philharmonic New York phil is playing the score of Encanto

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Speaker 4: Wowing in center. So that was what I wanted for

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Speaker 4: Father's Day was I wanted us all to go watch

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Speaker 4: incanto with a big orchestra.

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Speaker 1: How long is that going on?

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Speaker 2: I got it was just this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Wow, that's terrific.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I love you both. Thank you for spending this time.

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Speaker 1: You all, you're you're my people.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Bleep with Anna Navarro is a High Finite Media group

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