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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norri

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Speaker 1: with your Trisha Barker back with us. You last on

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Speaker 1: with us about two years ago. Trisha is an intuitive medium,

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Speaker 1: experiencing a profound dear death experience herself during her senior

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Speaker 1: year of college. We'll have her talk about that, and

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Speaker 1: this experience guided her to teach all over the place

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Speaker 1: overseas in public schools at the college level. Her near

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Speaker 1: death experience story has been featured on I Survived, Beyond

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Speaker 1: and Back and featured on The Doctor Oz Show as well. Trisha,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. Always good to chat with you. Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to talk with you tonight. How are you. I'm

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Speaker 1: fine and I hope you are weathering everything. Oh, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk with you about all these different topics.

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Speaker 1: For those who didn't hear you a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: tell us about this near death experience. What happened to you? Yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: as briefly and succinctly as I put it, I was

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Speaker 1: in a car accident and fractured three vertebrae in my spine.

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Speaker 1: But there was a lot of internal damage, and so

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Speaker 1: I waited a while for surgery. And when I was

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Speaker 1: taken in for emergency spinal surgery, my heart stopped at

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Speaker 1: some point during the operation and I lifted up out

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Speaker 1: of my body and the first thing that I saw

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Speaker 1: were these angels or light beings. They were just massive,

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Speaker 1: intelligent beings, and I remember thinking, oh my god, they

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Speaker 1: worked through the surgeons. I think these brilliant surgeons do

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Speaker 1: not realize that these higher beings are actually assisting them

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Speaker 1: in surgery. And that was that really shook me up

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Speaker 1: because I was agnostic and I placed a lot of

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Speaker 1: importance on the brain and you know, materialism, and to

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Speaker 1: see that there was this other side and this disconnection

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Speaker 1: from my own body that was alarming enough on some level.

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Speaker 1: But to see that we were actually assisted by other beings,

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Speaker 1: that that just blew my mind. And the experience was

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Speaker 1: peaceful and beautiful. I mean, I felt complete happiness to

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Speaker 1: know that spiritual level we go on. You had that

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Speaker 1: state of bliss, didn't you. Yeah, And the bliss just

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Speaker 1: got deeper and deeper. And for people who have experiences

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Speaker 1: that stop like just right there at that out of

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Speaker 1: body experience, they really miss out on the deeper consciousness experience.

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Speaker 1: And I think some of the most important parts of

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Speaker 1: a near death experience are the oneness experience that blending

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Speaker 1: with all it is, you know, from plants, animals, and

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Speaker 1: sky people, but especially people. I felt connected to everyone

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Speaker 1: I had ever known at a heart level. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and this is even like someone who just handed me

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Speaker 1: send you love and tell you to have a good life,

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Speaker 1: and kind of spread this good will throughout everyone I knew,

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Speaker 1: and you know, even people who had been cruel to me.

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Speaker 1: There was still this sense of, oh, this is just

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a physical game we played down here.

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Speaker 1: Let's just let go and move to this higher perspective

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Speaker 1: of compassion. And some of the key elements of my

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Speaker 1: new death experience was the life review. And I learned

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Speaker 1: not to be judgmental. You know, younger people can't be

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Speaker 1: deeper lessons of the New death experience. But ultimately, you know,

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Speaker 1: I saw my grandfather in the afterlife and he asked

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Speaker 1: and I started getting these universal messages like love is

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Speaker 1: go to nature. And as I was moving away from

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Speaker 1: my grandfather toward the light, I felt people's prayers trying

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Speaker 1: I get asked a lot by people who listen to

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Speaker 1: their death experiences as they go, well does prayer work? Well?

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Speaker 1: What I see prayer as the soul over there, as

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Speaker 1: I see it as an energy. So if you're praying

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Speaker 1: So communication there is sent through light, telepathy, and emotion.

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Speaker 1: So as I as I moved through those prayers and

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Speaker 1: And for the first time in my life, in that

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Speaker 1: It's like this whole human journey had just suddenly made

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Speaker 1: of unusual about my experience and why I get studied

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Speaker 1: by researchers A lot is a lot of people walk

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Speaker 1: through life and they're looking for their sole mission. But

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Speaker 1: up in that realm near God, I was given a

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Speaker 1: illuminate your abilities as well? Your psychic abilities? Oh? God, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 1: As soon as I was back in my body, my

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Speaker 1: So I've seen that, but I've seen other their spirits

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