1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: with I R Radio. Yo yo yo? Did that sound cool? 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Is that pretty cool? Yo? Yo yo? Okay. Anyways, Hey, 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: it's been here. Ashley is making her way from the 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: East Coast back to the West Coast. She'll be joining 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: us very soon, and we'll be getting right back into 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: it together as co host. We still love each other, 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: We're still together. This podcast is bigger and better than ever. 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: She just had to take a little lover's break, but 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: as you heard from her here recently, as she recorded 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: in New York City, she's coming back soon with that. 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna be bringing Chris and Crystal, who just got 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: married on last night's episode of Bachelor and Paradise into 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: studio today. There be co hosting a lot of this 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: show with me. But before we bring them in, I 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: want to break down a few things that are happening. 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Last night's episode was um I would say, one of 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: the most entertaining episodes we've seen this season. UM entertaining 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: and and sometimes a not so fun way. Though. I 20 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: want to hear from Chris and Crystal about this, but 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: I have some very I would say, uh, concrete inconfident 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: thoughts on their wedding. I didn't love being at that 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: wedding and having people argue around me the whole time. 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: That wasn't fun for me to hear. Is actually so 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: bad that that Jesse and I actually got back to 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: our room after it was all and said and done, 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: and Jessica and I said, Wow, what a beautiful wedding, 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: but what a weird experience at times. I mean, there 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: was a moment, I'm telling you this, jess and I 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: were sitting literally sitting in the reception and there is 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: eight different groups of people arguing. There was multiple people 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: having tears, there was makeout sessions going on. This is 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: a wedding, this is a celebration, And finally jess and 34 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: I just said this is too much. We've got to go. Um. Yeah, 35 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I want to hear from christ and Crystal beautiful wed 36 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: super pumped for them. I'm glad they're coming into studio, 37 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: but I'm sure there's some things that dell Field did 38 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: not go the way they wanted or maybe not. Maybe 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: they'll prove me wrong. But before they get in, I 40 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: want to break down a few things that are happening. 41 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: There's some main points from last night episode outside of 42 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: their wedding that we need to talk about. J p 43 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: J is on one. The guy is fired up because 44 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: he now loves Tasha, and I think for me and 45 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: I want to hear from you please emails at been 46 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: A Ashley. I heart media dot com or uh use 47 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Twitter and hashtag almost Famous podcast. I can't quite understand 48 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: where his love suddenly blossomed for Tassia. I think I 49 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: would be feeling this way and feeling for him if 50 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: up to this point I had ever seen a sign 51 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: that he was super invitation. I know he had said 52 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: and mentioned it, but then he goes on these two 53 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: dates because Tasha kind of told him to. But these 54 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: two dates, it wasn't like he was holding back. It 55 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: wasn't like he was thinking about Tasha on both of 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: these dates. I felt like he was entering into new 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: relationships with new great people. I know. I know the 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Ferguson twins well, they were on our season of the Bachelor, 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: and Haley Ferguson is a tremendous, tremendous catch. I think 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: as her sister has now found uh somebody that she loves, 61 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Haley is starting to venture out as well. I see 62 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: JPJ go on this date with her, and the only 63 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: thing I can think about is this relationship could work. 64 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: It could literally work. They're they're very similar people. Um, 65 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: they vote. They both are very fun to be around. Uh. 66 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: They both are intelligent, even though sometimes when you watch 67 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: them you go they a character of themselves, But when 68 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: you talk to him, they both have really really good thoughts. 69 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: They process things well. But all of a sudden, we 70 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: see this whole new JPJ come into play. This j 71 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: p J is mad at Derek because Derek is now 72 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: into Tatia. And maybe I'm wrong here, maybe I'm alone. 73 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Please tell me if I am. But I'm celebrating Derek 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: like it's a good thing. He moved, he handled them 75 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: the situation well, he didn't give up on the pursuit 76 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: of love. He said, I'm gonna stay in this thing. 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, before his eyes is 78 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: his beautiful momentation. Derek says, I'm gonna go after because 79 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: she's interested in me as well. I don't think he 80 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: did anything wrong, and I want to know what J 81 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: p J thought he was doing wrong. We have Tori 82 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: in studio with me right now, before we bring Chris 83 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: and Crystaline, I gotta get Tori's opinion. What did JPJ 84 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: actually feel like Derek was doing wrong and did Derek 85 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: do anything wrong? It sounds like the classic he's not 86 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: here for the right reasons scenario, and he saw Derek 87 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: talked about his podcast too much where he thought, oh, 88 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: he just wants to get more content. I mean, trust me, 89 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm all for they gave me content. Well, I also 90 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: feel like what Derek was saying was no, I was 91 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: doing that as it's really cool to opportunities we have 92 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: available to us after the show, like after going on, 93 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: we do have a podcast we can have opportunities with 94 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: and I do want you to come on and chat 95 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: about Bachelor in Paradise. So I feel like it was 96 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: kind of just work talk. But then JPJ took advantage 97 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: of that and manipulated it kind of to make it 98 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: seem like, see, Derek's here for the wrong reasons. It's 99 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: interesting there's a comment that was made by JPJ says, um, 100 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: Derek is on this show and using his bachelor profile 101 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: to hook up with girls. Uh, And that's one of 102 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: So there's a few things that JPJ has said the 103 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: Derek is doing wrong. One he's using the Paradise Show 104 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: to enhance his podcast content. Um, the next is uh 105 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: that he is using his bachelor fame took up with girls, 106 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: and then also he is deceiving everybody in the process. 107 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: I think it's a viewer. It's hard. I haven't seen 108 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: that yet, and I don't know if many people had, 109 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: Like even the people that were on the beach with 110 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: Derek were confused by j what JPJ was upset at about. 111 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: We saw at the wedding. I understood at the wedding. 112 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: I saw him getting mad at Derek at the wedding, 113 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: and everybody's like, I don't know what's going on. I 114 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: think this is maybe, let's say, in the Most Beautiful Sins, 115 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: JPJ really does love Tasha and he's losing his mind 116 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: because Tatia is slipping through the cracks. Do you believe 117 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: in love at first sight? Yeah, sure, because I swear 118 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: this is what happened to him. I don't know. I 119 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think he loved Tashia as much 120 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: until until Derek started Like in Tasia, no, because he 121 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: pursued her beforehand and then Tatia said, hey, seek out 122 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: other options, and then he went on a date with 123 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: Haley and Tajwan. It's all of a sudden become one 124 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: of the most dramatic storylines that we're seeing in Paradise. 125 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: I am interesting see how it plays out. I want 126 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: JPJ to pull it back together. I like the JPJ 127 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't have to be goofy all the time. He 128 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: doesn't have to make everybody laugh all the time. He 129 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: doesn't need to gag after everything he puts down his 130 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: throat because that seems to be something he's doing. But 131 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: JPJ that just lifts people up. The joyful JPJ that 132 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: is confident in himself, loving, caring, fun, exciting, and and 133 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: very secure in who he is. I don't like the 134 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: JPJ im seeing. I want JPG to come back to 135 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: normal because I think if he does, my prediction is 136 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: if JPJ can wrap this up and get his head 137 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: back and right him and take you could actually make 138 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: things work. Do you know what I didn't like how 139 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: he kept interrupting Derek and wouldn't let him speak. It happens. 140 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: It was weird. It was monologue. It was it was weird. 141 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: Derek was very calm and collected, and J like I said, 142 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: I've never seen a freak out like that. Even on 143 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: this show, like it was a uniquely dramatic freak out 144 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: that had no sensibility to it. We can oftentimes to 145 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: the show. I'm gonna go back to some of the 146 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: most villainous people we've ever had in the show. I'm 147 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: not gonna mention their names because some of them don't 148 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: deserve to have their names mentioned on this podcast. But 149 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: sometimes they're arguing things and you're like, oh, that kind 150 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: of makes sense. Like, yeah, it's wrong and it's aggressive 151 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: and you're not saying the right things, but like, it 152 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: kind of makes sense. This one didn't make sense to me. 153 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: It was a lot of talking, very little conversation, and 154 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: it completely lacked any sensibility. Derek couldn't even a word out. 155 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to JPG. I wanted I 156 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: want jp J to sit down on this podcast at 157 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: some point and tell us what happened. Because it was 158 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: a breakdown of all breakdowns. This one we'll go back on, 159 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,119 Speaker 1: I think and watch years to come. Hey, uh, Chris 160 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: and Crystal are getting warmed up. They're getting a vocal 161 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: chords ready. We're gonna break down their wedding with him 162 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: all the good, bad, ugly, and excitement that came from it. 163 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: But before do, let's take a break to talk about 164 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: one of our favorite sponsors. Bachelor in Paradise this year 165 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: has not missed its drama. We talked to Wells last 166 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: week and we both were feeling like the drama is 167 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: out kind of weighing the love right now. I do 168 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: think we're taking a hearn, but we're getting pretty far 169 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: in the season. There's a few couples that were celebrating 170 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: right now. I know that we feel pretty confident in 171 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: Hannah and Dylan. Finally, UM, Blake is still out there 172 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: pursuing love the best of his abilities. Um. I think 173 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: we've seen successful couples kind of blossom late in the show, 174 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: but at this point, I feel like, tell me if 175 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. We're getting a little late in the game 176 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: to really be cheering for any of these couples like 177 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: we want to. I mean, I'm I'm thinking back to 178 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: the Astroids and Kevin's. Um, I'm thinking back to the 179 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: Joe and Kindle's. I'm thinking back to the Tanner in Jades. 180 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: I think the closest thing we have to that right 181 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: now is is honestly Hannah and Dylan and their their 182 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: journey has not been perfect. I don't know if we 183 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: we necessarily expect it to be. But even after this episode, 184 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: and we'll get into it later, the Clay and the 185 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: Coals are even breaking up, it feels like, I mean, 186 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: we see Kalen heartbroken during the wedding because of Deaners, 187 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: but we also see Connor step in as maybe the hero. 188 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: These are all things we want to tease to talk 189 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: about later in the podcast, but quite honestly, I believe this. 190 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: It's been a great season. It's been fun to watch, 191 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: it's been at times hard to watch. But there are 192 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: very few couples that I am fully behind other than 193 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: Hannah and Dylan. And that's sad to me because I 194 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: think a lot of them are on their edge. I 195 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: think that I don't think they're gonna make it, really, 196 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: mark my words, I don't think. I think Hannah and 197 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: Dylan make it, and I think a lot of the 198 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: other ones that we're watching right now, I think it 199 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: gets it's it's not looking good. Christian and DEMI I think, 200 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: oh yeah, Christian, DEMI will make it. I kind of 201 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: like feel like that's like, uh, like I don't know 202 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: if this makes it. I feel like they're like above 203 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: paradise now, Like it's almost like you, of course they're 204 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: gonna make it like it just feels like it's such 205 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: a good and healthy and positive thing. I don't know 206 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: why I watched this down like they are a paradise couple, 207 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: but they feel like so much more than a paradise couple, 208 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: Like they're out of the dramas, like there's not a 209 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: lot outside of their own relationship that could blow up 210 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: in their face. Side note, did you see how jess 211 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: had a little cameo and the cocktail? Um, Yeah, it's funny. 212 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: I I watched it before Jessica did, and I said, Jessica, 213 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: you had a really good moment during this show. You're 214 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: talking to Clay and I was back in an interview 215 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: and she was introducing herself to some of the people 216 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: that are at the wedding, and I remember I came 217 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: out and then I felt so awkward. I don't know 218 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: any of these people. When I was just like spinning 219 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: in circles trying to like everybody's trying to mingle with 220 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: each other and meet each other. And then we get 221 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: to see it on national television where Jessica is talking 222 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: to Clay. There's like an argument or somebody or some 223 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: girls trying to flirt with Clay, and she comes up 224 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: in could just like stands there, smiles and like spencing 225 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: circles like I don't want to go, but this this 226 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: is a crazy part of this And I think I 227 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: mentioned it a few weeks ago on the podcast. I 228 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: was at this wedding as well, and in this batch 229 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: the world, I've been in it for a long time, right, 230 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know a lot of these new people, 231 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: so I was excited to meet them. But I would 232 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: say I'm a veteran, like there's not many from the 233 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: many things on this show that is gonna throw me off, 234 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: but I'm There's two scenarios. One, I'm sitting uh at 235 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: the wedding and I look behind me and there's Connor. 236 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: I said, Connor, Ben, nice to finally meet you, and 237 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: he's like, oh man, He's like, I want to talk 238 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: to you right now, but I'm gonna go talk to 239 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: that girl, and just like yes. Second one, Mike, they 240 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: well Mike, I'm talking to him and he goes, Dude, 241 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you right now, but I 242 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,239 Speaker 1: got to go talk to this girl. Two different occasions. 243 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: I got completely ignored, dumped, walked past because I was 244 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: at that point I realized I was in the middle 245 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: of a television show. I was just hanging out like 246 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: I was at a wedding. My final point before we 247 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: take one last break before we bring Chris and crystalland 248 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: I know they're they're warmed up there. Listen to this. 249 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: This is crazy. We met Connor, really tall, good looking dude, 250 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: right Hannaby season Hannaby season. We see him come into 251 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: the episode at the end this time, and I'm like, Connor, 252 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: you've been on the show, Like, are you down on 253 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: the beach? I didn't know who was there and who wasn't. 254 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: He goes, no, man, I've been in my hotel room 255 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: for the last ten days. It's a hotel room, lest 256 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: in days. Why because I don't know. He literally came 257 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: down to Paradise and he was just chilling until the 258 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: beach opened up to have one more man walk in. 259 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: Based on how people were going home coming and going, 260 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: there wasn't room for another man, so he had to 261 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: literally sit in his hotel room. Is that how it works? 262 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: You just sit in the hotel room. I guess I've 263 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: never been on paradise? Is that wild? Like being in jail? 264 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: Poor poor guy? All right, hey, um, let's take one 265 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: more break and then we're gonna bring on Chris and 266 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: Crystal Live to talk about their beautiful wedding that was 267 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: a celebration of all sorts of love, of a commitment 268 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: to each other, but also at its own drama. Let's 269 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: take a break, all right, Welcome back, hot Chris and 270 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: Chris or in studio. Hello, Chris and Crystal? What's going on? Man? 271 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Man? You guys are glowing, trying, man, trying, 272 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: you know how it is? Looking good, looking really good. 273 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: All right. So we've been talking leading up to getting 274 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: you both in the studio about kind of everything leading 275 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: up to your wedding, and so we broke all that down. 276 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: Now I want to talk about your wedding. Um, first off, 277 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: let's start at the beginning. Why did you want to 278 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: do your wedding on television? Uh? So this was actually 279 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: a long process for Sloani. Uh. Months of talking, months 280 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: of negotiations, and um, you know, weighing the pros and 281 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: the cons. We knew that doing a televised wedding, UH 282 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: would have some risks because we knew that, you know, 283 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: not everything could be perfect when it comes to reality TV. However, though, 284 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: we thought of all the positives, and some of those 285 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: being getting married at a place where we first met 286 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: for the first time ever, had our first conversation first 287 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: I Love you, first date, and it was very symbolic 288 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: for us because we would be able to bring a 289 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: new element into that and that was our friends and 290 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: family to watch this chapter of love that has evolved 291 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: over the last year really come to fruition in front 292 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: of their eyes at the place where we met. And 293 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: I think it was also a thank you to the 294 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: franchise because uh, without all of this, we would have 295 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: never found each other. And so I think that really 296 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: all played into the decision making that allowed us to 297 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: move forward and go ahead with the decision of having 298 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: to televised wedding. Yeah, I think that was really well put. 299 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: I will say that as we were going through this 300 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: wedding planning process, a lot of fear from our past 301 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: seasons really started to come back to the surface, and 302 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: for us, I was just exposing just some areas we 303 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: were still hurt um and ultimately like as we got 304 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: closer to the wedding and kind of making that decision. 305 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: We ultimately had to decide that these wounds were areas 306 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: that we were gonna not let us, let us, you know, 307 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: be defined by them, and and instead shoes to step 308 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: forward into the future and become better. But it was 309 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: areas where we said that this actually requires real work. 310 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: What was those things? Like? What are things are you 311 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: speaking about? You know I'm talking about Like when I 312 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: was on The Bachelor and feeling I just felt so 313 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: afraid to be myself, and I think I was so 314 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: as I went through that process. I was so scared 315 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: of showing people who I really was, that I wouldn't 316 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: be accepted, I wouldn't be loved. And a lot of 317 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: that trails way back to my child of you know, 318 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: being on welfare and government assistance and my dad not 319 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: being in the picture and not letting kids at school 320 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: know that because they would tease me and make fun 321 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 1: of me, and so kind of carrying this image. And 322 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: I realized that I'd been doing that my whole life. 323 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: And when I went on The Bachelor and watched it 324 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: back and went through all that scrutiny um and getting 325 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: this fill and edit, I mean, really, that's that's who 326 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: I was, and so just becoming confident in who I am, 327 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: the woman I am today and owning my truth and 328 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: unapologetically but lovingly being me was a journey to get through. 329 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: I want to sit here for a second, Crystal, with you, 330 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: because I think this is an interesting point that oftentimes 331 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: we can't answer on this podcast. Um, I want to 332 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: start one and remind everybody that when Crystal was on 333 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, your journey was not easy. It was not 334 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: one that I would say you probably walked out of 335 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: it feeling the most love. But you came on Paradise 336 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: and it was a completely it was a complete redemption story. Right. 337 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: So here's my question for you as somebody and you're 338 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: not anymore, You're not viewed this way. You are loved, 339 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: you're celebrated. Obviously, you just had a wedding on national television. 340 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait to continue to talk about it. But 341 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: you were the villain after your season you went down 342 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: to Paradise, known as the villain. For anybody that comes 343 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: on this show and maybe doesn't know themselves fully and 344 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: isn't it doesn't have the greatest time on the show, 345 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: they don't represent themselves well, or they watch it back 346 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: in the Wow, I didn't realize I was such a 347 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: jerk or such a egomaniac or whatever. What would be 348 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: your advice for them to have their redemption story? How 349 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: do you then kind of turn the table? And then 350 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: also my follow up to this, and I want you 351 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: to because what does it feel like to be completely 352 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: love now when at one time you felt isolated from 353 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: this world? Yeah, I'd say, um, right now, they're there's 354 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: still every now and then that little voice that just 355 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: kind of doubts, like am I enough? Like do people 356 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: like am I? Am I good enough to get this love? 357 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: And and do I feel worthy enough to receive this? 358 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: And I do? And it becomes this like daily practice 359 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: of reminding myself that it's not about other people validating 360 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: me to be happy, to feel worthy. It's about loving 361 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: myself and just owning that and embracing that and knowing 362 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: that all those hard times that I went through weren't 363 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: anything to be ashamed of because they actually gave me 364 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: my strength and they defined who I am today. And 365 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: I think just honestly, my relationship with Chris is what 366 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: really gave me that confidence. Because there was a moment 367 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: on the beach when we were in the pool like 368 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: day two and he's like, you're a businesswoman. And I never, 369 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: even though I had a business, I had never viewed 370 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: myself as this entrepreneur, as this businesswoman. And I was like, wow, like, 371 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: you see something in me that I couldn't even see 372 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: for myself. And I think that's why our our relationship 373 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: has evolved, and that's why we got married, is because 374 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: we bring out these sides in each other that maybe 375 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: at one point we didn't feel worthy. We couldn't see it. Um, 376 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: but we're continuously devoted to growing and pushing each other 377 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: to really demand more of ourselves and um, and you know, 378 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: we're just being surrendering to love. Really. As as great 379 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: as that sounds, I think I think one thing that 380 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: we don't ever really focus on is how this show, 381 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: for those of us who go on it, it's kind 382 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: of like a blueprint. And what I mean by that 383 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: is is you might have not the best of journeys 384 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: going on this show, Um, but that was you in 385 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: the moment. A lot of people go on the show 386 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: and they blame producers, they blame edits and but at 387 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it was your behavior. And 388 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: whether that's ever happened to you before or it just 389 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: finally came out. Those were hitting qualities or characteristics that 390 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: you saw that you didn't like about yourself. So instead 391 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: of deflecting, uh those situations, it's better to uh look 392 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: at it in a way of taking full ownership and 393 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: embracing it. And what I mean by that is is 394 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: use that as fuel to understand that there are things 395 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: that are deep in hit and that this show can 396 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: bring out. But it's a good thing because that is 397 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: a time where you can work on yourself and have 398 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: self development and work on a new blueprint for yourself 399 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: to become a higher, better version of who you are. Yeah, 400 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: that's awesome. And my my advice, going back to your question, Ben, 401 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: would be when I was on The Bachelor, there was 402 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: a moment where I was blaming and I was pointing 403 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: the finger, and then ultimately I realized, hey, I'm a coach, 404 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: Like how I grow is through feedback, is through constructive feedback. 405 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: So then I started going on Instagram and then I 406 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: started reading all the comments and sifting through the messages, 407 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of death threats. There was 408 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: a lot of really angry things, but there was also 409 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: like nuggets of love and intention and admiration that people had, 410 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: and I chose to read those without getting myself involved 411 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: in that emotion and instead chose to see see it 412 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: as feedback. And it was if someone kept continuously saying 413 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: the same thing, then that was obviously like something that 414 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: I needed to look at within myself and grow. So 415 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: no that particularly we're speaking about Blake. You know, hard 416 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: times I'll have to define you. You can grow and 417 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: become better as we did, and I really hope that. 418 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: And that's another reason why I think we decided to 419 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: get married was because we went through this journey of 420 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: into the dark but came out because we were together, 421 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: because we leaned into this franchise, and because we just 422 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: we just surrendered the expectations and just step into who 423 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: we were. And I wanted that to be an inspiration 424 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: story of that would inspire others that you know, you 425 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: can become anybody you want. You deserve anything that you know, 426 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: you deserve happiness and love, but you got to do 427 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: some work to do it and to get there. What 428 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: I want to sit here for a second, because Chris 429 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: and Crystal, you've just said something that's never been said 430 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: in the two years plus that we've been doing this podcast, 431 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: I've never and I want to tell you, anybody out 432 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: there listening who has listened for a while will know that. 433 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: I think they're probably screaming, like saying, oh my gosh, 434 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: this is what Ben has been begging for. But we've 435 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: never had a villain air quotes come onto this show 436 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: and ever say take ownership in your actions because if 437 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: you do, you'll be a better person for it. Chris, 438 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: you said it. It's it's you're brilliant and I'm learning 439 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: from you. I'm just gonna repeat what you said. You said, 440 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: don't deflect what you're seeing. Instead use it as growth, 441 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: and when you do that, people respond. We connect through 442 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 1: our our vulnerability, we connect through our weaknesses. And I'm 443 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: literally just repeating what you said. So this isn't my 444 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: own thoughts here, But what I want to say is 445 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: I want to remind the listeners that what has happened 446 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: here and what the beauty of this show is, it 447 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: does bring out things that we don't always see, and 448 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: when you use those as fuel to better yourself, amazing 449 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 1: things can happen. Like these two guys. I'm telling you, 450 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: we've never had that nobody's ever done that, and it's 451 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: and it is. It is such a breath of fresh 452 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: air for me. I've been waiting for that. So with that, 453 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: you guys are really smart people with great advice here, 454 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: I want you to tag team this. If Blake Blake 455 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: does listen to the podcast, Blake's gonna hear this. What 456 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: is your advice to Blake right now? Um? I think 457 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: my biggest advice would be to really process this, don't 458 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: act out of emotion. Uh know that not everyone's perfect. 459 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing is that it's it's 460 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: so hard to take ownership because we know the truth 461 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: about ourselves and we don't want the truth to to 462 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: come to to come to life because we know that 463 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: we'll be judged. But this is a moment where coming 464 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: to truth will set you free from the bondage that 465 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: you're that that's holding you back. Because the longer you 466 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: continue to hold onto that bondage and you know you 467 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: can't break through, breakthrough, you'll just continue to have these issues, 468 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: to have these demons over you. And So for Blake, 469 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a great friend of mine. I love him, 470 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: and I don't my perception doesn't change of him. However, though, 471 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: I do want to rally behind him because I know 472 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: that this will be a great stepping stone for Blake 473 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: to become even a better man than he previous was 474 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: through this journey on the franchise. So I would say 475 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: to Blake, don't worry about what people are saying. I 476 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: know that you've done what you've done. These actions were 477 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: done from you, no matter if there was an excuse 478 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: or reason. But just know that this is not what's 479 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: going to define you. What's going to define you is 480 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: how you respond and how you react in the action 481 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: that you take moving forward. I expect to get preached 482 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: to today, but come on, Chris, Yeah, that was good. 483 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to go into UM. I think my advice 484 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: as a life and fitness coach to Blake would be 485 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: to shut off the phone and make sure you're taking 486 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: time every data to better yourself. And you know, I 487 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: know people are saying a lot of things and a 488 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: lot of opinions about him, but he can't listen to that, 489 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, he can't find his worthiness and what other 490 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: people are saying. And what I have found to be 491 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: most transformative for myself and for my clients is setting 492 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: aside time every morning and just waking up with purpose 493 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: in a plan that is solely focused on on developing you. 494 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: So I love waking up and drinking my lemon water, 495 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: pulling out my pen and my journal, and just writing 496 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: out whatever is going on in my mind. And I 497 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: think for Blake it might be easy to blame things, 498 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: but just writing these letters just to get out the 499 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: emotions that could be consuming him in his head. And 500 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: exactly that Chris said, just kind of reacting out of 501 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: emotion and um, a lot of fear that I'm sure 502 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: he has right now is going to really help him 503 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: get that clarity on the steps that he needs to 504 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: take to move forward, because he's got the answers, he 505 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: knows what to do. Sometimes we just give other people 506 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: that power, but it's until we begin to look within 507 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: and understand it's it's not about what's out there, it's 508 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: about what's within me. Yeah. Seek uh internally, not externally, 509 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: because no one knows what's best for Blake on the 510 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: inside besides Blake. And so Blake needs to shut everything 511 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: down and listen to himself on the inside and that 512 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: will allow him to begin this new path of moving forward. 513 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: And when in doubt, Blake. Just watch my season of 514 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: the Bachelor and that that doesn't have to define you. 515 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: You can move on in a happy, healthy way with 516 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: a beautiful wedding. Hey, guys, I really want to talk 517 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: about your wedding. I want to celebrate this wedding. I 518 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: want to talk about how beautiful it was. I also 519 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: want to talk about any of the behind the scenes 520 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: things that maybe we didn't see that you were both 521 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: feeling um. But I want to break that down in total. 522 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: So before we do that, let's take one more break. 523 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: We'll get back talking about Chris and Crystal's beautiful wedding. 524 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: All right, we got Chris and Crystal in the studio, 525 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: whose wedding we just watched on Bachelor in Paradise. Chris 526 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: and Crystal, I need you to lead me through this. 527 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: I was not, uh, the ones planning your reading. I 528 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to be there with my girlfriend Jessica 529 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: uh and it was a beautiful wedding from our perspective. 530 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: But the things you didn't see. I want to walk 531 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: into this because I did see this part. We all 532 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: walk into this event venue. It's a beautiful place at 533 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: the Vedanta in Portavarto. Mexico, and we don't really know 534 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: what's going to go on though, right, Jessica and I 535 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: are going for your wedding. That is our purpose of 536 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: being there. We don't know anything else. At this point. 537 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: We flew down for Chris and Crystal's wedding. We go 538 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: to a cocktailer that we've been invited to, and at 539 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: this cocktail we're meeting Chris and Crystal's family, a couple 540 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: of other people who are already there from Bachelor Nation 541 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: that came down kind of with us that we had 542 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: met at the pool earlier. And then the cast shows up. 543 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean literally they walked down this like venue space 544 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: towards us like a herd of animals, and everybody's heads 545 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: turned and we all go, what is happening? We didn't 546 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: realize I saw your guys reaction, No idea that you 547 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: are so surprised. We had no clue. I had no idea. 548 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, the show literally came to us, 549 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: and like, not when this happens, right, That's what I'm 550 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: gonna say. It's not just the cast that comes, it's 551 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: the cameramen that come it with them, and it's a 552 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: huge group of people coming charging towards the wedding. They 553 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: come down, all looking fresh, all looking it's super happy 554 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: to be there. You know. The one thing they didn't 555 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: see on the show was everybody that got to the wedding. 556 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: We're like, we're so glad to be out of the house. 557 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: We're like feel like we're you know, it feels like 558 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: a different world that we've not entered into together. We 559 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: feel like we've gone back into the real world for 560 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: a bit. They're super excited to be there to celebrate 561 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: you all and to actually get a breath of fresh 562 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: air and air conditioning and air conditioning. And very quickly, 563 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: and I don't know if how men you watch it 564 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: last night on the show, very quickly realized that the 565 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: show really did come to us. And this is the 566 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: part that all of a sudden, Jessica and I both 567 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: started to feel weird about, because there's arguing, there was 568 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: mingling of relation and ships, there was new people coming 569 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: in during you know, the cocktail hour, and Jessica very 570 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: quickly looked at me and she goes, word, this is 571 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: the show. Is like, this is like definitely about the 572 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 1: show right now, right And I said it did, and 573 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: we she started to get upset for you too, But 574 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: I will say it turned quickly once we walked into 575 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: the ceremony because at that moment it really was about YouTube. 576 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful wedding that I want you tube 577 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: down kind of lead me through because we were nervous 578 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: the cocktail hour, felt like it wasn't gonna be this, 579 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: but then all of a sudden, it all changed. It 580 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: was a drastic shift, and your wedding was a wedding 581 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: to be remembered. Um was it everything you hoped it 582 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: would be? And it's a tough question that to to 583 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: answer because in a sense it is, but in a 584 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: sense it isn't. Um. I gotta be honest because obviously 585 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: we knew, Um, there could be some elements thrown into 586 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: the mix of our wedding, and we knew that there 587 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: were risks. Um did we know the whole cast was 588 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: gonna come not untill about a dared too before the wedding. Um, 589 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: we thought we were going to be possibly giving out 590 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: a day card to one couple to come down. So 591 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: it was definitely a surprise factor, and we knew that 592 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: there could be some some situations taking place. Knowing that 593 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: that amount of people with that level of drama going on, 594 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: um could interfere, but there were a lot of positives. 595 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Crystal looked absolutely beautiful. Um. I almost fainted 596 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: when she literally was walking down the aisle because I 597 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: felt such such an array of emotions. And you know, 598 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: it was a breakthrough for me to know that I 599 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: was marrying my my life partner, my best friend, and 600 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: uh my family right there, my mom front row just 601 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: crying and being so happy for me. And these are 602 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: emotions and these are memories that will stick with me forever. 603 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 1: And UM, I'm extremely grateful and blessed absolutely um. And 604 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: so for that, I am thankful. UM. And I think 605 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: this was actually everything that I envisioned, and we did 606 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: get what we wanted out of this and and I think, uh, 607 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: I think for me personally, that five percent will dessipate 608 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: soon enough. UM, you know, because it's just short term. 609 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: It's not long term. Everything that's sticking with me is 610 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: all the beautiful memories, not the not the little bit 611 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: of drauma that that occurred. Yeah, I would say that, Um, 612 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: we knew going in that it was going to be 613 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 1: incorporated into an episode, not be a standalone episode, So 614 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to be just about our wedding, and 615 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: we knew that there was going to be some cast 616 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: that were that would be coming in, and ultimately we 617 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: kind of looked each other and we said, well, we're 618 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: always down for an adventure. Let's let's say then. And 619 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: what was important, the most important thing and the most 620 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: special thing for us, especially for me, was that we 621 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: got to bring our our family and our close friends 622 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: onto the show and have them see what it's like 623 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: to actually be a part of this franchise because there's 624 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: a little, as you know, it's a little bit of 625 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: a disconnect. I'm sure there was like that with Jessica 626 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: um As. We had talked about that she doesn't really 627 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: know the world, so it's hard for her to comprehend 628 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: and grasp like what goes on. So we were really 629 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: excited for that element of it. And I would say 630 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: everything was perfect up until we were in the reception, 631 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: and it was at that point it did feel very 632 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: much not about us produced. And there was an element 633 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: where Chris and I were standing there and the room 634 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: was totally empty and all the castles in their little 635 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: corner for filming, and I all of a sudden looked 636 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: around and like my microphone was off and no cameras 637 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: were honest, and We're like staying there alone, and I 638 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: was like, this isn't even about us. Let's go, let's 639 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: get out of here. I mean, at the end of 640 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: the day, we we left. We left the reception early. 641 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: We did. We did. Yeah, and my my friends while 642 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: my room has been actually ended up staying there toil 643 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: production shut down. But I think Crystal made a great point. 644 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: It's just in that moment um, as happy as we were, 645 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: we did feel uh a little bit down knowing that 646 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: the night wasn't over yet, and we just felt like 647 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: the night ended sooner than maybe it should have. Yeah, 648 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: the I want to back check because the reception is 649 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: something that we just have to talk about. It was wild. 650 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts on that. Your wedding, though, 651 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: will be remembered. It was beautiful, it was a celebration. Um. Yes, 652 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: I think watching it on television, there was moments that 653 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: felt a little weird, like when Angela walks down the 654 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: aisle and Clay is looking there like he's fearful, and well, 655 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, I remember we were sitting right across from him, 656 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: and I had known the scenario and how it was 657 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: going to present itself. And I was watching his face 658 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: as she walked down, and I remember when I was 659 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: in person, I tapped Jessica was like, that is wild, 660 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: Like I know they captured that and watching it back 661 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: is going to be rough. It wasn so many photos 662 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: about like a screenshot of that. It was Oh my god. 663 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: It was um. But your wedding was beautiful, Crystal. You 664 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: looked absolutely gorgeous. I'm sure you've been told that a 665 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: thousand times. I think you should be told that a 666 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: thousand times, a thousand times more. Uh. Chris said it, 667 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: he was fainted. You look so good you did. You 668 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: looked absolutely beautiful. But I do have to ask, what 669 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: in the world is this smudge pot cleansing? And why 670 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: were they doing on your genitals? Well, so, um, if 671 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: you watched Paradise when Chris and I were on and 672 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: where we met, I mean, part of who I am 673 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: is I love crystals and I love sage and a 674 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: lot of that comes down to energy. And I smudge 675 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: daily as part of my morning routine that I recommend 676 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: like to do. And uh, what sage does. It removes 677 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: negative energy and it just cleans the room and it 678 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,479 Speaker 1: allows you to just kind of wash away any any 679 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: negativity of the past. It allows you to clean slate. 680 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: And I felt that was really symbolic for christ and 681 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: I because we wanted to let go of who we were, 682 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: of the past, of that of that those hard times, 683 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: never forget, but let go of about that trauma, any 684 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: of that negativity that we had been prior to now 685 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: moving forward as a married couple. So we really wanted 686 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: to come into this marriage just clean, cleansed, and new. Yeah, 687 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: I think it was very symbolic for us, UH, because 688 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: we're very into UH in tune with one another and 689 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: when it comes to our energies. This is one of 690 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 1: the biggest breakthroughs we've had in our relationship is that, UM, 691 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,479 Speaker 1: we can feed off and understand each other's energy and 692 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: and someone doesn't even have to say something. And being 693 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: in tune like that allows you to communicate more effectively UM. 694 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: And it allows us to not bottle up emotions UM. 695 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: And it also helps us identify things within ourselves that 696 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: UM we're able to work on rather than not being 697 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: able to identify and to to to continue going down 698 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: a path of UM not becoming better day in and 699 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: day out. So UH this much ceremony. It was our choice, 700 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 1: and we just wanted to kind of just show everyone that, um, 701 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: don't you don't have to bring uh, negative emotions from 702 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: the past into the future. And knowing that we can 703 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: kind of shed some of that dead skin that we 704 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: had from previous seasons. UM, this was a big moment 705 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: for us to go into a new chapter, clean, refreshed 706 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: and um fully confident of us being a couple and 707 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: taking on the world together. And honestly, it was also 708 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: like what I was talking about earlier, Ben, it was 709 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 1: just showing people who we really are and not needing 710 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: to try to put on this front and try to 711 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: be someone we're not. We wanted to let people into fun, 712 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: little quirky things like having crystals and burning stage and 713 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: some people think it might be silly, but for us, UM, 714 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: that's a part of our life, of our life really 715 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 1: important one. Yeah, and we get to see that now 716 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: why and eu genitals is that like a thing? Is 717 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not really sure. Okay, you know Todd. 718 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: Todd is a really good friend of mine. I mean 719 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 1: we've grown together closely over the last year, and uh, 720 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, he knew that he had this role he 721 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: was very nervous. He tried to back out of it, 722 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: but we wanted him to do it. And Tod is 723 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: also one of the producers on the show, and he 724 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: was actually both of our producers individually and then and 725 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: then on Bachelor in Paradise, so he was a pivotal 726 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: part of our relationship. So I mean the direction of 727 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: how he was sieging the smoke and with the feather, 728 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, for him, I think he just wasn't even thinking. 729 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: He was just trying to do it and get out 730 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: of there. So I wouldn't say this. I actually earlier 731 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: that day because he was so nervous, I was like, Todd, 732 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 1: come over, let me like practice on how you how 733 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: you like wiggle a brother disperse the smoke. So he 734 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: came over. I gave a whole tutorial. He was like good. 735 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, this is a really serious roll. 736 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a joke. This is you know, Miname. 737 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: Chris is like, this is this, you know, a ceremonial gesture, 738 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: like and this is an honor for you, so please 739 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: take it seriously. And then he walks out in flip 740 00:38:54,440 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: flops and then tell me Vohammad a short hell. You know, Todd, 741 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: he's just like like trying to be all like giddy 742 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: and dorky and we love him so much. But you 743 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: see me like, go to Chris, I got no laughing. 744 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be a joke. I wanted it. 745 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 1: It was a very serious thing and it was our 746 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: wedding ceremony. It wasn't it. It wasn't a joke. But 747 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: turn out that way, I just gotta roll with the 748 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: punch sometimes. Oh yeah, it was great, it was really great. 749 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: I was just yeah, I'm glad you cleared it up 750 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: for me because I I've never seen that before, and 751 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: I thought, if anybody to be cleansing genitals, Todd is 752 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: the one to do it. Well. Is there anything else 753 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: that we saw we didn't see maybe in your wedding 754 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: in the ceremony portion, because we're gonna get into the 755 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: reception here in a second after we take a break. 756 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: Is there anything else in the wedding portion that you 757 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 1: want to mention to anybody out there listening. I mean, 758 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest moments, I mean, Ben, 759 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: you saw this was I wasn't wearing a mic um 760 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: right before Crystal was about to walk down the uh 761 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: you know audio came up to me and they're like, 762 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, sound check and I'm like I don't even 763 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: have a mic on and they're like wow. They're like okay, 764 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: we gotta hold on a board a board and they're 765 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: like freaking out, and um, you know, it was just 766 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: funny because then we have Crystal waiting and she had 767 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: no idea what was going on. Then I was behind 768 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: that curtain for seven minutes by myself, and no one 769 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: was telling me what was going on. People just like 770 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: would walk up and like smile and give me a 771 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: thumbs up, and I'm like what, yeah, well, and I 772 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden hear everyone in the crowd like 773 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,439 Speaker 1: laughing like louder louder louder, and I'm just like, I'm 774 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: so confused. Like the music stopped, um and that moment 775 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: I kind of started to freak out. And then ultimately 776 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: I just had to close my eyes like draw it 777 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: in and I did this like mini meditation, said like 778 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 1: twelve prayers, and ultimately I was able to like pull 779 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: into myself and have this incredible experience where I was 780 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: able to get so present, so focused, so elevated, um 781 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: energetically so that when I walked out, I just felt 782 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: like I was beaming this aura of love and I 783 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: felt just this ball of energy encompassing who I was 784 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: in that moment. And um, there was a really special 785 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: moment because I know, leading up to at the wedding, 786 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: when we were talking about it, everyone was asking me like, 787 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: who's gonna walk me down? And I brought up like, 788 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't really know, Like I think I'm gonna go 789 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: by myself, and people were like, no, you shouldn't do that, 790 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: or why would you do that? And it was this 791 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: element where I already feel shame about it, but my 792 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 1: dad isn't really a figure in my life, neither is Chris's, 793 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: and that's actually what brought us together. And so for 794 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: me to make that take that step to um, you know, 795 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: make that walk alone, I realized that it was an 796 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: honor because I am self made and I was raised 797 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: by a single mom, but she was really not at 798 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: all in my life, and um, it was it was 799 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 1: a real honor for me to do that, um, and 800 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 1: I was really proud of myself. So it was a 801 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: really special moment. I think that's a point that maybe 802 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: I don't even realize, was you did walk yourself down 803 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: the aisle and that's a power that is a very special, 804 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: powerful moment. And you walked yourself up to Chris and 805 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: had an amazing, amazing celebration that Chris Harrison officiated. You 806 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 1: wrote your own vows for each other that were beautiful, 807 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: they were funny, they were unique, they were personal. And now, 808 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: Chris and Crystal um based on your story of what 809 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: brought you here. One of the most beautiful things about 810 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: you two is the story that you tell about the 811 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: life that you've lived up to this point. The story 812 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: that's brought you here is now on to celebrate your 813 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: husband and wife. And we're so excited to be celebrating 814 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: you now on this franchise. Um. You are a success 815 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,479 Speaker 1: story and one that will be talked about for years 816 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: to come. Let's take a break, and I want to 817 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: talk about the drama though that ensued at your reception 818 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: that caused you both to leave a little early. Let's say, great, 819 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: you got it. For as beautiful as the wedding ceremony was, 820 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: I would say the reception was, uh, well, what would 821 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: you rate the reception on the skill of one to ten? Uh? 822 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: You know, I would say that the first half it 823 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: was about eight and a half, and then I would 824 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 1: say the second half was probably the one. I would say, 825 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: I say, I'm only given up point because we actually 826 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: left at that point. So but yeah, I mean that 827 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: that that's kind of how I would feel about it. 828 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean, here's what it went down. A beautiful start, 829 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: great food, a really fun dance, some great talk speeches. 830 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: Everything seemed to be going like a normal reception does. 831 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: It was great, your family was there, and then all 832 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden it did. There was a drastic shift 833 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: where it felt like, all of a sudden, the reception 834 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: was no longer the focus. You had Hannah or Hailey 835 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: and Analese and Ashley talking about Angela and how bright 836 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: and glowy she was walking out lout she was. It 837 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: made sense Tatian Analie are talking about Derek and JPJ. 838 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 1: Katie and JPJ are talking people, are you know, kind 839 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: of ragging on our our buddy Blake a little bit more. 840 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: All this stuff starts to get heated about midway throughout, 841 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: say an hour and a half into your reception, and 842 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 1: at that point I felt like there was no getting 843 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: it back. We actually Jessica and I left. Um I 844 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: bet we were literally on elevators, the two of you 845 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: and Jessica and I like side by side at the 846 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 1: same time, because it did feel like something was missing. 847 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: Was that I mean in the groom was gone, I 848 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: think for me and and if anybody's out there, they're like, Okay, 849 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: you give up some of the stuff with the TV wedding. 850 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: You understand that it sometimes you're gonna have a mic 851 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: issue and it's gonna have to pause and you're gonna 852 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: have to reset and do this, Like that's something you're 853 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: giving up to have a wedding in Mexico with your 854 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 1: family there so they can see all this go down 855 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: like that just happens, right, but there is And then 856 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: the reception, right, receptions are usually wild, their drama filled 857 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,959 Speaker 1: most of the time in real life or on TV. 858 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 1: There's hook ups going on, there's crap tears like it's 859 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: that people are drinking, dancing, laughing, whatever. So I'm guess 860 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 1: I'm leaving your reception going. It just felt like a 861 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: little bit less than what I would experience in the 862 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: real world. Like it well, and I want to hear 863 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: if you agree, like you obviously left early, But it 864 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: did feel like all of a sudden you were gone. 865 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: We were gone, and I'm and we look back in 866 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: the room that everybody was like supposed to be in, 867 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: and it did it feel like everybody was in a 868 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: corner arguing, laughing, arguing or crying. Yeah, I will say 869 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: one thing that really stood out to me was that, 870 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: and then they didn't really show this too much, but 871 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: that they had invited multiple multiple um casts that were 872 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,399 Speaker 1: not current cast or bridal party who were singles and 873 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: trying to get a chance to go down to Paradise. Yeah, 874 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: and so a lot of them came not for the 875 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: wedding per se, but to try to make a connection 876 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 1: to pursue someone to come back to Paradise. We're back 877 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: on to Paradise and Elise and Bibiana, I know we're there. 878 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: They had been kicked off Paradise. We're back at the 879 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: wedding looking to go back. Who were some of those 880 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: people that from past season that were down there kind 881 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,280 Speaker 1: of looking to get onto Paradise. There was Um Brooks, 882 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: Jase McNary, Daniel Lombard, Uh, that girl Whitney Um, I 883 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 1: mean an Elie Um, Yeah, I mean there was there 884 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: was quite a bit. I'm trying to think of other ones, 885 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: but I mean those people were there too, and so 886 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 1: you had I mean, to be honest with you, it 887 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: kind of felt like a roast ceremony event. It seemed 888 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: like there was it seemed like there was panic. They 889 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: seemed like there was a lot of sadness. People were 890 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: scrambling because they thought that this was their chance to 891 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,479 Speaker 1: go down to the island. Um. I remember people coming 892 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: up and asking like what should I do to try 893 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 1: to get on the show, And I'm thinking like, man, 894 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: this is my wedding, Like I can't be talking strategy 895 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: right now, this, this is not where my focus is. 896 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: That I felt deflated at that point. So it really did, 897 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: uh you know, in a weird way. It felt like 898 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: a roast ceremony. So people were actually asking you to 899 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,240 Speaker 1: advice on how to get onto the show at your wedding. Yeah, 900 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: that's wild. Who I should who I should meet, who 901 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: I should hook up with? And I'm like, I don't. 902 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 1: I don't really know all the couples or the all 903 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 1: the all the situations that are going on right now, 904 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: and you know, it just it just for me. I 905 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: just I didn't anticipate that. I guess, m hmm. It 906 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: were you Okay, I mean, obviously the wedding was important 907 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 1: to you, like the ceremony, Were you willing to give 908 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: up the reception? But I mean, so here's here's where 909 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: this is coming from. I was in a car the 910 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: next morning heading to the airport with a bunch of 911 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: your family members and they were so thrilled with how 912 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: the whole thing went. So obviously the reception wasn't that 913 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: important to your family, like they really want to see 914 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: a beautiful wedding. So were you two going into it 915 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 1: willing to give up the reception kind of for the 916 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: sake of the show or was that something that you 917 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: really wanted. Honestly, we thought, I mean we spent I 918 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: mean a whole freaking playlist on Spotify of songs we 919 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: were going to play that not one was playing because 920 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: they couldn't play it because they were filming a show. 921 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: And so, I mean we thought it was gonna be 922 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 1: an actual party and it and it was in that 923 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: later half that was supposed to have been the DJ 924 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 1: and the floor dancing and you know, getting down, we 925 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: didn't have that element of it. So for me, I 926 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 1: think that's what we were most excited about. And we 927 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: were led to believe that that would be absolutely apart 928 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: of the ceremony or the reception, and it wasn't. But ultimately, 929 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: like we knew there was gonna be some kid, We 930 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: knew what there was gonna be some take And is 931 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: it worth the ceremony to not have the reception? Absolutely? Yeah. 932 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: The the ceremony was so beautiful, so gorgeous, everything we wanted. 933 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 1: And something you didn't see was the night before we 934 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: had our rehearsal dinner, which was just an incredible experience. 935 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: So ultimately our friends and failing us had a full 936 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: vacation that was I mean, it was awesome. It was 937 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: five star. So yeah, we didn't get that that second 938 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: half of the reception, and it was it was worth it. 939 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: I would say, I'm kind of thankful for the reception 940 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,959 Speaker 1: because it allowed my friends and family, um to see 941 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: the element, uh that no one really sees, and that's 942 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: the show actually in full force taking place. And I 943 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: don't know if if Jessica can attest to this, but um, 944 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 1: it probably allows her to understand you more now when 945 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: you do talk about the show, and she can now 946 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: uh kind of be someone that you can confide in 947 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: when you do want to talk about the show because 948 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: she probably can be more understanding now, just as my 949 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: family and friends now, uh have allowed me to kind 950 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: of be more open about the show and have asked 951 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: me questions because now they understand and now they're not 952 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: judgmental or they're not confused, which has really kind of 953 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,879 Speaker 1: helped my relationships with my boys as well, because they've 954 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 1: always tried but they couldn't really pinpoint or under stand, 955 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 1: and the same thing with my family. So in a 956 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 1: weird way, I am kind of thankful for for all 957 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: those things that took place at the reception because they 958 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: got to see it. Yeah, there's two things that Jessica 959 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: said to me after the wedding one, um, maybe three. 960 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things. Actually, she said, uh, crystal beautiful, 961 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 1: what a great ceremony, those things, and then she was like, 962 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm less intimidated. Was one thing. She said, Um, by 963 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: this world now, which is such a beautiful thing to hear. 964 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: She's like, for for so long, I've I've kind of 965 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: put the show up on a pedestal since I've met you, 966 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: and I've been intimidated by any person that's been on 967 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: the show. And I'm less intimidated now because I realized 968 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: everybody's like normal or just a little less than normal people. UM. 969 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: And then second is UM that she can relate with 970 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 1: me better, that she can understand more when I talk 971 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: about things. She knows me better because of that reception, 972 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: and because of the wildness that took place. UM, a 973 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 1: few less questions. I know we've got to get you 974 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: out of studio. UM, I really want to talk about 975 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: real quick, the Clay scenario with Angela. Angela was in 976 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: the wedding, she's a good friend of yours. At all, 977 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: did you feel bad about kind of setting I don't 978 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't even say sitting clayics. I don't think you 979 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 1: set Clay up. You didn't even know he was really 980 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: gonna be there. Um, but what at all? Was there 981 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,800 Speaker 1: a point in this that you felt bad for Clay 982 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: or was this kind of something that should just happen? 983 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 1: I mean, then we see Angela show up to the beach, 984 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: so obviously this was a scenario that was going to 985 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 1: happen somehow, some way. What were your thoughts, maybe he's 986 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: the best way to phrase this. On the Clay Angela 987 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 1: Nicole scenario during this time in Paradise. I mean, so 988 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: Clay is actually one of my really good friends. I'm 989 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: the one who got Clay and Angela together. Um, they're 990 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: both my good friends. And to believe it or not, 991 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna have Clay view in my wedding and 992 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 1: that that kind of changed last minute because I didn't 993 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: want to have that situation and kind of you know, 994 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: take away from Crystal on her day. But the whole 995 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: dynamic is this is that you know the reason why 996 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: Clain Angela broke up is because Clay was in a 997 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 1: really tough spot, um with O t a s coming 998 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: up with the NFL and trying to get a tryout 999 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: and so what took places. They really had some deep 1000 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 1: conversations and they were planning for the future. But Clay 1001 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: takes care of his entire family, I mean down to 1002 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: his grandma, down to his brother's financially and um, this 1003 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: can be a burden on someone, especially when they have 1004 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: the weight of all of that. And I think those 1005 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: deep talks that they were having in the time that 1006 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: they broke up, UM allowed him to open his eyes 1007 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,360 Speaker 1: and realize that right now, I need to figure out 1008 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: myself first with what I can do moving forward from 1009 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: my career in order to have these talks that I'm 1010 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: having with Angela actually come to fruition. So in a way, 1011 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,760 Speaker 1: he didn't want to let Angela down, I think, and 1012 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: and I understand from Angela's point of view two because 1013 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: it is weird and it is shocking. However, though from that, 1014 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: I would say that you know, Clay did the only 1015 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: thing that he can do in that point in time, 1016 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,479 Speaker 1: and that was to let go, even though it hurts 1017 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 1: both of them. And I think after a couple of 1018 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: months went by, um, the whole career thing was now 1019 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: taking a dramatic shift because I think at this point, 1020 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,399 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL has done for him, which is tough, 1021 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 1: and I think for any man, especially who has put 1022 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,280 Speaker 1: so much work into to have that kind of slip 1023 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: out of your hands, it's definitely definitely a shock and 1024 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,840 Speaker 1: it and it definitely affects who you are as a 1025 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: man because then you have to figure out what's next. 1026 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 1: And I think Bachelor Paradise was a way to get 1027 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: away from this and and really be open to the 1028 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 1: fact that knowing that he knows that it's over now, 1029 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,760 Speaker 1: maybe love can now be something that he can work 1030 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 1: on and focus on because he can now kind of 1031 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: um have it come back into his life. And and 1032 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: what I think is the whole in the cold situation 1033 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,360 Speaker 1: is they get along great. I actually love them. I 1034 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: think they were I think they were beautiful. And I 1035 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: think that everything that we saw with Clan Angela is 1036 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: exactly what we would have expected, um from the reception 1037 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: or from the ceremony to the reception. And to be 1038 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: honest with you, uh, I don't have any ill will 1039 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: towards anything that took place with them, because I think 1040 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,439 Speaker 1: that this was important for them to have that talk. 1041 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: I think that this was important for them to see 1042 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 1: each other face to face because at the end of 1043 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 1: the day, we're really going to now and see the 1044 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 1: true answer if this is a couple that um is 1045 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: someone that should be together, or if they should be 1046 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,840 Speaker 1: a part. Yeah, it's going to be a storyline we 1047 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 1: want to follow in Paradise for sure. Yeah. Absolutely. And 1048 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 1: I know I definitely was nervous and I spoke with 1049 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: Angela prior to the wedding and I was like, I 1050 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: know Clay's going to be there. We hear he's dating someone. 1051 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: I really don't want this drama to take away from 1052 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 1: the wedding. And she had really reassured me that she 1053 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: was in a good place and you know, it would 1054 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 1: it would be good. So we were so we knew 1055 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: that we knew that going in, and we knew that 1056 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: there was going to be an opportunity for them to 1057 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: actually come together and talk since they had broken up, 1058 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 1: and I think that that Angela was really needing some 1059 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 1: closure on this relationship, so we wanted them to sit 1060 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 1: down and have a conversation. So we were really supportive 1061 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: of it. And we love Angela very deeply and we 1062 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 1: love Clay and we both want them both to be 1063 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 1: happy and to take the opportunity for them to explore 1064 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 1: what they want. And I think that for Clay, what 1065 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: is going to be really interesting that we're going to 1066 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: see play out this season is I mean, he broke 1067 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: up with Angela because he needs time to find out 1068 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: who he is. What's his identity post football, which consumed 1069 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: who he was and now he no longer has that, 1070 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 1: So who is he now? And he needs to take 1071 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 1: that time to to find himself and to create this 1072 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: new life. And is he ready for a relationship or 1073 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: does he still need to take take some time. That's 1074 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: a good theme for the rest of Paradise. Is Clay 1075 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: ready for relationship or does he need takes some time? Uh? 1076 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 1: Chris and Crystal, thank you for sharing about your wedding 1077 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 1: on this podcast. UM. What a wild season of Bachelor 1078 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 1: in Paradise. We hope we can celebrate couples from this 1079 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: season like we're able to celebrate YouTube you are, You're. 1080 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 1: The words of wisdom that both of you shared are 1081 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 1: things that UM, I'll take with me, UM that I'll 1082 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: point other people too. I bet on this podcast for 1083 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: years to come. When they are villains and they feel 1084 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 1: like they've gotten a bad edit or whatever, I'll just say, 1085 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,319 Speaker 1: you need to talk to Chris and Crystal because, UM, 1086 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 1: redemption does exist, but it has to exist within yourself first. 1087 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 1: And I think those are words that I'm going to 1088 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 1: take from listening to both of you. I'm so pumped 1089 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,399 Speaker 1: that I got to celebrate. Thank you for inviting Jessica 1090 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 1: and I to the wedding. Thank you for allowing us 1091 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,359 Speaker 1: to be down there and on the prom Thank you, 1092 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,839 Speaker 1: um being at the Vedanta. Is there anything in your 1093 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: lives right now that you'd like to share with our 1094 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: listeners before we go? Yeah, I want to say the 1095 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: work that Chris and I did have been doing on 1096 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: ourselves has really evolved so much are who we are 1097 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 1: as people as well as our relationship and then just 1098 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: elevated us into such as beautiful transformation. And so I've 1099 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: decided to now incorporate life coaching into my fitness coaching 1100 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: to be working with women on empowering their mind, honoring 1101 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 1: their bodies, and transforming their lives. So that's going to 1102 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: be coming up really uh soon, and I cannot wait 1103 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,799 Speaker 1: to start just being um just speaking to women in 1104 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: their heart because I think a lot of us just 1105 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 1: feel unworthy and unhappy and we're really desperately seeking happiness. 1106 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 1: But ultimately it's within ourselves and we all have the tools. 1107 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes we just need a coach to point us in 1108 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: the right direction to bring that out within ourselves. So 1109 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 1: coach Crystal dot com coming soon. Good for you guys. Hey, Uh, 1110 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 1: thank you for sharing your wedding with us on TV. 1111 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 1: Fans and listeners of this podcast have already started to 1112 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 1: write in and just say how awesome it is to 1113 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: see weddings on this show and celebrate the two of you. Uh, Chris, 1114 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: you are the best doggie daddy I know. In Crystal 1115 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: Um is that what you called him a doggy daddy 1116 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 1: dog daddy, boys, I call him daddy. So yeah, we've 1117 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: talked about that in this podcast. That's all heir about it. 1118 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 1: Hey follow my league guys, thanks again for co hosting 1119 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: with me today. Uh, actually we'll be back soon. Listeners 1120 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: out there, the Almost Famous podcast is moving and grooving. 1121 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: Make sure you tune in next week to another breakdown 1122 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise. With that I've Been Been and 1123 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: I've than Crystal and I Been Christ followed the Bennon 1124 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe 1125 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts