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Speaker 1: Here we go on a very very interesting and.

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Speaker 3: Frenetic Friday. It's The Herd wherever you may be.

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Speaker 1: World Series starts tonight, blazing five in one hour. Whatever

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Speaker 1: platform you're watching or listening, Thank you for making us

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Speaker 1: part of your day. So yesterday, before the show, there

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Speaker 1: was the massive scandal eleven states thirty people gambling scandal

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Speaker 1: heard around the NBA. Now the poker scandal, there's far

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Speaker 1: more people involved, but the NBA's let's be.

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Speaker 3: Honest about the NBA.

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Speaker 1: It's a big global target, right And I read everything

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Speaker 1: over the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 3: You can read.

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Speaker 1: I got up at four in the morning and I

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Speaker 1: read for two and a half hours. The interesting part

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Speaker 1: everybody's talking, Chauncey Billups and Terry Rosier. Damon Jones, part's fascinating.

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Speaker 1: He was an unpaid member of the Lakers staff under

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Speaker 1: Darvin Ham no longer is friends with Lebron James. I

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Speaker 1: don't believe Lebron knew anything. I'm sure of it, but

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Speaker 1: he was found to be texting accusations right that he

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Speaker 1: is saying, you know, bet Milwaukee beg tonight because Lebron

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Speaker 1: part of that text was and enough so d Jones

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Speaker 1: can eat too. Keep your eye on Damon Jones and.

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Speaker 3: All of this.

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Speaker 1: But I want to I want to remind people of this,

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Speaker 1: not to be a wet blanket for all you fatalists.

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Speaker 1: But if you go back to the nineteen ninety three

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Speaker 1: And Michael Jordan was the face of the NBA. He

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Speaker 1: was the most globally recognized athlete in the world, and

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Speaker 1: people said oh, it was just the tip of the iceberg. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And the NBA survived, and it doesn't have nearly the

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Speaker 1: now it's billions, and it was Michael Jordan and now

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Speaker 1: it's Damon Jones, Terry Rozier, Chauncey Billups. So I think

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Speaker 1: iceberg is an ice cube and not much more than that.

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Speaker 1: Uncle Colin is going to impart some wisdom here briefly.

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Speaker 1: In eighteen seventy six, one of my favorite years, frankly,

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Speaker 1: the National League was formed in baseball. Eighteen seventy six,

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Speaker 1: the National League's formed. Do you know their first betting scandal.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, one year later, eighteen seventy seven, Baseball's doing fine.

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Speaker 1: They just signed a billion dollar contract too. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the FBI wasn't even around there. The guy who founded it,

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Speaker 1: Jadgar Hoover, wasn't born yet. One year into the National

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Speaker 3: I'm just guessing, and you.

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Speaker 1: Had a betting scandal, the mob athletes bad judgment. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the craziest thing on all this. I didn't know Lakosa

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Speaker 1: Nostra was still a thing. I honestly thought it was

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Speaker 3: I'm like, LaCOSA Nostra. I watch Goodfellas, It's over.

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Speaker 3: No, Apparently they were like eleven guys LaCOSA Nostra involved.

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Speaker 1: Sports leagues have rules, and sports leagues warn their athletes

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Speaker 1: But the great thing about America is we have all

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Speaker 1: People make really bad choices. Chauncey Billa, Damon Jones, Terry Roseer.

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Speaker 1: Give one hundred million in earnings again, keep your eye

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Speaker 1: back to Michael Jordan nineteen ninety three, face of basketball globally.

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Speaker 1: It's not going anywhere. It's not going anywhere. NBA is

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Speaker 1: But Colin gambling wasn't legal? Well, I actually like legal

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Speaker 1: Terry Roseer issue was spotted within six hours.

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Speaker 1: The NBA thought it was apparently not worth pursuing much.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the Chargers last night play the Vikings. In

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Speaker 1: They flirted with Aaron Rodgers, they settled for Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: They can run on the left side, what a shocker.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers are the opposite. They've got the most important

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Speaker 1: So as I watched last night, a thousand out of

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Speaker 1: But the Chargers know the truth in this league is

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Speaker 1: battle line. Justin Herbert doesn't need both tackles. He won't

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Speaker 4: Joe makes a huge difference. He's a great player, and

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Speaker 4: I would say in his leadership and eight healthy guys

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Speaker 4: I think we're gonna be better for it. I know

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Speaker 1: Just to give you a sense, I've always said, once

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Speaker 1: this Joe Altz impact on the Chargers. When he's on

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Speaker 3: When he's not, Herbert.

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Speaker 1: It's just that the Chargers have struggled outside of the

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Speaker 1: going away. The mob gambling, poor judgment athletes. I think

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Speaker 1: and poker games have been going on forever. The Chauncey

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Speaker 1: Billups accusations are he was in on it, they were rigged,

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Speaker 3: No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: I can remember at one point in David Stern's career,

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Speaker 1: was highly combative. So the reality is this stuff and

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Speaker 1: that just think about that. It's hard to explain. We

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Speaker 1: so when you were hearing things about Michael, a lot

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Speaker 1: Michael acknowledged he was in Atlantic City during the Knick

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Speaker 5: lot of these people on the internet today are like,

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Speaker 5: this is absolutely reprehensible. The integrity of the league is compromised.

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Speaker 5: That is so overblown. It's not even funny, Like this

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Speaker 5: is not going to change anything. Last night's games pretty incredible, Warriors, Nuggets.

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Speaker 3: Go overtime, Like this is an Is this an isolated incident,

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Speaker 3: Colin or do you think this is rampant throughout the night.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think the poker games have been

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Speaker 3: By the way, thank you staff. The costest interview was

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Speaker 1: Finals, So yeah, I mean, Bob was centerpiece on that

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Speaker 5: happens everywhere. Let's not freak out, Colin. Would you agree

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Speaker 5: But if he's just talking about it, not thinking that

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Speaker 5: Well, Damon Jones is texting gamblers? You know, get d

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Speaker 3: Listen. The Dodgers are historic. They are tied for the.

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Speaker 1: Most World Series appearances five by any National League team

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Speaker 1: what about the regular season, folks, They don't care about it.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna make the playoffs. They overwhelming with talent. What

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Speaker 3: Don't risk it. There is no rush back. They'll push

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Speaker 1: And the Dodgers treat their players and stars like a

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Speaker 7: And they're just a greedy group. They're very similar to

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Speaker 3: Top to bottom. Jmack with the.

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Speaker 2: News, No, no turn on the news.

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Speaker 5: This is the headline news, all right, Colin NFL Friday.

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Speaker 5: We got big news for the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 3: And that's AJ Brown.

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Speaker 5: Colin did not practice Wednesday, did not practice Thursday.

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Speaker 3: That's not great.

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Speaker 5: If you usually don't practice Thursday, you got major problems.

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Speaker 5: If he's not on the practice field today, I would

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Speaker 3: Now I'm not sure what he's talking about.

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Speaker 5: It's weird for somebody to go on social media and

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Speaker 3: Of the season against the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna play or not.

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Speaker 1: This is not part of my blazing five. The wise guys,

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Speaker 1: I've kind of jamacked. I have stayed away from Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: I'll take the Eagles, but half to half.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea what Philadelphia's offense produces. I have

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this also comes down to the defense

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Speaker 5: brought Burns not practicing a debo.

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Speaker 3: They're good cornerback not practicing.

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Speaker 5: Giants a little banged up and mentally, Colin, how is

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Speaker 3: That was historic stuff? Thirty three points in the foot quarter.

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 5: You saw Burns go into the locker room yelling, why

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Speaker 3: You know Jackson dart mentally, man, I don't make that mistake.

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Speaker 3: We win.

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Speaker 5: They cut the kicker, then they bring him back to

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Speaker 3: Because they needed a.

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Speaker 5: Backup kicker or whatever. So the Giants are a bit

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Speaker 5: Saquon Barkley, I think you're going to talk about it

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Speaker 5: a little more. He's definitually like three point four yards

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Speaker 5: of carry this week the most popular NFL narrative. What's

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Speaker 5: wrong with Sakuon Barkley? All off season? You and I

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Speaker 3: Look at his playoff. You can't bounce back from that.

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Speaker 3: So I have some concerns.

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Speaker 5: I think the Eagles are a great teaser bet take

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Speaker 5: NFC East. Right, Let's move on to brock party. You know,

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Speaker 5: it's funny you haven't taken any shots at Brock Purty

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Speaker 5: played two games this season. GM John Lynch broke down

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Speaker 8: He's doing a really good job. We're taking the appropriate measures.

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Speaker 8: What I can tell you is he gets better each week,

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Speaker 8: each day. I do think we're getting closer to him

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Speaker 8: returning a hard timeline, because it's kind of a field

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Speaker 1: I think what has been established clearly is that mac

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Speaker 1: But Matt gets a great coach and then Daniel Jones

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Speaker 3: But I think we have to be honest now.

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Speaker 1: As much as we were critical of Mac and Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 7: Good.

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Speaker 5: So the problem is they run into what potentially is

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Speaker 5: an elite defense. So one of the big mismatches this

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Speaker 5: week is the trenches the Texans defense getting after Mac Jones.

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Speaker 3: He's not exactly mobile. Okay, we saw Sam Darnald.

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Speaker 5: I know the Seahawks won that, but you Donald did

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Speaker 5: not look great in that game.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm also worried about the Texans. Did you see this?

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Speaker 5: Nico Collins still not practicing concussion, Christian Kirk not practicing hamstring?

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Speaker 5: So who's CJ Stroud thrown to I want Texans here.

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Speaker 3: I haven't bet it yet, but I think I'm on Houston.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a play on this one.

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Speaker 1: I like Houston. I think it's low scoring. The Niners

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Speaker 1: after wins can stumble the last couple of years, and

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I think you just hit on it. Mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: Lack of mobility against this defense. I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be low scoring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would tend to agree. Final story, Colin.

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Speaker 5: I know there's a lot of gambling NBA stuff happening,

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Speaker 5: but the actual product.

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Speaker 3: Has been tremendous. Yeah. So there were two amazing games

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Speaker 3: last night.

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Speaker 5: Both went overtime, and the Steph Curry show was unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: So Aaron Gordon had fifty collins. He hit eight straight.

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Speaker 3: Threes to open the game. I was stunned.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know we could do that. But Steph Curry

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Speaker 5: beat him. He had forty two points, including sixteen straight

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Speaker 5: late in the game in overtime. Here's Draymond Green on

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Speaker 5: Steph Curry dropping forty two.

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Speaker 3: He loved a moment.

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Speaker 9: That's just who he's been since I've known them. You know,

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Speaker 9: the bigger the moment, the more he rises. But He's

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Speaker 9: this quiet guy. You know, we all know Steph like

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Speaker 9: right how he is. But he loved a show, I think,

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Speaker 9: you know, and so anytime it's the show to be

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Speaker 9: put on, he's going to do it. And you know

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Speaker 9: he did that tonight in a major way.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: When you watched that game, Oh, there was so much

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Speaker 1: talent on the floor. People forget Gordon was a defensive

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Speaker 1: player when Orlando had him, and then he goes and

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Speaker 1: he plays with Jokic and you just forget how many

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Speaker 1: big games and big baskets he's had. I think Gordon's

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Speaker 1: one of the more underappreciated guys in the league. But

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Speaker 1: he was like a top four or five pick. He's

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Speaker 1: a huge, long, great athlete. He has developed into a

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty good shooter.

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Speaker 3: Look at that in transition, just pull up three. So

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Speaker 3: this was interesting.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you notice this, but Jamal Murray

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Speaker 5: the late game superstar for DEVA.

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Speaker 3: They put Draymond Green on him.

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Speaker 5: Late and I was like, ooh, that's a smart little

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Speaker 5: wrinkle from Steve Kerr.

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Speaker 3: There were so many good wrinkles.

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Speaker 5: Now I do have some Nuggets fans, friends, Yes, I

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Speaker 5: gets some NBA fans everywhere and they are so upset

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Speaker 5: with the coaching down the stretch. Where was Cameron Johnson

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Speaker 5: or big free agent. I'm like, it's game two, guys,

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Speaker 5: can we settle down? Everybody's tinkering, But.

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Speaker 1: I'll say game Gordon is a fascinating player because he

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Speaker 1: comes into the NBA as an athletic long defender. Last

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Speaker 1: year forty three percent from threes, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: that's because you have to double Yo kich yep, and

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Speaker 1: so Gordon steps back. He used to shoot mid range

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Speaker 1: and drive and slash steps back. He has become a

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Speaker 1: lethal three point shooter.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it is interesting you bring that up. You know,

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Speaker 5: he was drafted to Orlando, Like you said, top five.

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Speaker 5: I think he went fourth overall. He's our savior. He's

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Speaker 5: not a savior.

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Speaker 3: He's an amazing and incredible number three. Oh, he's the Joe.

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Speaker 3: He's the best three in the league. Yeah, A KD. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Amen Thompson maybe is a man Gordon. Gordon's

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Speaker 3: better probably well Sengoon, I mean, Lean's the one.

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Speaker 1: Kd's the two. Amen Thompson for the time being the three.

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Speaker 1: But Gordon and a men Thompson would be the best

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Speaker 1: threes in the league.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I know some NBA fans. You guys never

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Speaker 5: give the thunder credit. We're talking SG a second hour. Uh,

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Speaker 5: he had like a fifty burger last night.

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Speaker 3: It ain't positive, but make sure you stick around for

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Speaker 3: next hour SG. Jay Mack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: So it is a there's a couple of games this weekend.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch the one that's that's really fascinating.

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Speaker 1: And let me ask you this question. What are we

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Speaker 1: to make of the Cowboys? Are they legitimate? So they

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Speaker 1: beat the Jets, Giants, and the Commanders without a fully

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Speaker 1: healthy Jadan Daniels, they tied the Packers, they almost beat Philly,

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Speaker 1: and then they lost a fourth quarter lead the Carolina

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Speaker 1: and got smoked by the Bears.

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Speaker 3: What are they Sunday?

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Speaker 1: Is true, serum, Denver's got a great coach and a

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Speaker 1: great old line and a great defensive front. And Denver

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Speaker 1: does not allow passing touchdown and Dak's been on a heater.

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Speaker 1: So the answer will be provided Sunday. No Jets or

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Speaker 1: Giants here. The Denver Broncos defense little better than Carolina's.

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Speaker 1: So in my opinion, legitimate playoff teams can win on

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Speaker 1: the road, and the Cowboys this year have not been

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Speaker 1: great on the road, and Dak's been great, but he'll

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Speaker 1: have to be sensational Sunday. To me, this is the

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Speaker 1: truth serum game for the Cowboys because they beat the

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Speaker 1: Jets and Giants and the Wabbly Commanders, they tie the

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Speaker 1: Packers almost feat Philly, and then they get housed by

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Speaker 1: the Bears and lose a fourth quarter lead to Carolina.

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Speaker 3: What are they?

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Speaker 1: Dak's good, I don't question that. Here's what concerns me

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Speaker 1: about the Cowboys, Dak's career versus playoff teams on the

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Speaker 1: road eight and seventeen. Now, Denver made the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 1: I'm projecting they're a playoff team this year. And if

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Speaker 1: Denver is a playoff team, and I think their coach,

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Speaker 1: their roster, it's a playoff team to me. Dak and

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have not been great in this spot. And

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Speaker 1: Dak talked about facing an elite secondary with a Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl level corner and safety and this pass rush.

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Speaker 10: Credit and respect to them. It's a little bit of both. Obviously,

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Speaker 10: they know that they go hand in hand for them.

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Speaker 10: Right corners can be a little bit more aggressive, sit

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Speaker 10: a little bit more play the routes and knowing that

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Speaker 10: they're getting home on defense at with just their rush

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Speaker 10: and leaning the league in sacks right dominating on third down.

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Speaker 10: So a lot of credit, a lot of respect for them.

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Speaker 10: Just continue to go in there and play my game.

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Speaker 10: Uh starts with beating the pass rush and when you've

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Speaker 10: got the receivers. I do have a confidence in them

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Speaker 10: to win.

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Speaker 1: So my take is the head coach, the offensive line, defense,

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Speaker 1: huge significant edges toward Denver quarterback clear advantage.

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Speaker 3: Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Both have really good weapons. Cowboys are probably better. But

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Speaker 1: if you can give me a much better coach, a

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Speaker 1: much better o line, and is significantly better defense and

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Speaker 1: they're at home, could it get ugly for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: It's one of my Blazing five picks.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and neon Eastern a Empacific.

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Speaker 5: The World Series begins on Talks as shoe Hey Otani

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Speaker 5: and the reigning champion do take on Vlad Junior in

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Speaker 5: the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 3: Game one of the World Series. Coverage begins tonight at

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Speaker 3: seven Eastern on Fox. Yeah, I guess you know.

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Speaker 1: I did so much reading last night on the Chauncey

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Speaker 1: Billup stuff and the Damon Jones. If you go back

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Speaker 1: to when Chauncey Billups was hired, there was a story

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Speaker 1: regarding him and personal conduct that was troubling, and uh,

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Speaker 1: maybe we've all been fooled this entire time. There are

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Speaker 1: people like that Blazing five top of Next Hour. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I always thought as a player, he was

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Speaker 1: a very thoughtful guy. But you know, it's it's one

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Speaker 1: of those things where you can think a person's a

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Speaker 1: certain way, then you hear a story about him, and

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Speaker 1: then the damn breaks a few years later. And there

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Speaker 1: are people I always, I always feel like the truth

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Speaker 1: does come out with everybody. But there are people out

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Speaker 1: there that are, you know, it's almost sociopathic, that are

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Speaker 1: good actors and they can put on one face and

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Speaker 1: be another person. So these are just accusations. But the

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Speaker 1: Chauncey Billups stuff is initially was hard to wrap my

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Speaker 1: brain around. And I listen to people I respect and

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Speaker 1: trust and I just can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe it. Of course I can. It's bad judgment.

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Speaker 1: Lebron James, Damon Jones, our friends were Lebron generally hangs

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Speaker 1: out with smart people. You ever, you ever see those

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Speaker 1: things like those White House photos. You'll see like a

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Speaker 1: president with their arm around somebody and that person's like

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Speaker 1: a convict, and it's been happening, you know.

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Speaker 3: For fifty sixty years. You just don't know.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what happens when people leave work and

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Speaker 1: you don't know. You think you know, you don't know,

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Speaker 1: So you know, Justin I always root for Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: because you know, whenever I hear this about a player, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's never won a playoff game. Well, Dan

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Speaker 1: Marino didn't win a Super Bowl and Charles Barkley didn't

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Speaker 1: win an NBA finals, And those are two of the

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Speaker 1: best athletes I've ever seen. Matt Stafford had no playoff

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Speaker 1: wins twelve years in Detroit, and Sean McVay, of all

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the league, said, I want that guy.

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Speaker 1: I want him so much, I'll pay a salary, and

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Speaker 1: I'll pay Jared Goffs too. He'd never won a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Smart people can predict and project. Any dummy can say,

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Speaker 1: well that guy's good, he's got four rings. It's too late.

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Speaker 1: The way to get value. The way to beat the

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Speaker 1: market is to be ahead of the market. Sean mcvay's like,

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Speaker 1: I know he's never won a playoff game. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to take him, pay for his salary and GOFFS and

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Speaker 1: trade him and give you a bunch of draft picks.

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Speaker 1: It worked out, and so you know you want to

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Speaker 1: beat the market. You don't want to chase the market.

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Speaker 1: And nine sports fans are chasing stuff or telling you

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Speaker 1: the obvious. So every EXECU I've ever talked to, every

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Speaker 1: coach I've ever talked to that I've ever asked about

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, they're all like, he's like top four or

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Speaker 1: five quarterback in the league. There are sundays he's outside

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Speaker 1: of mahomes the best. Trevor Lawrence beat him in a

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Speaker 1: playoff game. I've never talked to an exec that would

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Speaker 1: take Trevor Lawrence over Justin Herbert. Never forget. Rex Grossman

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Speaker 1: got to a Super Bowl. Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: So last year brought purty as his team was all

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Speaker 1: beat up physically. Brock perty went six and nine. Well,

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of injuries six and nine, and

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Speaker 1: Brock is a good quarterback. This year Herbert's five and

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Speaker 1: three with similar issues. Nobody's healthy. That's a great quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So I mean the defensive coordinator from Minnesota, Brian Flores,

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Speaker 1: is maybe the best defensive coordinator in the league and

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Speaker 1: was sending blitz packages from the very first snap. And

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Speaker 1: yet the Chargers never punted last night and were nine

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Speaker 1: for thirteen on third down with only one of their tackles.

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Speaker 1: So justin, Herbert against blitz packages last night was thirteen

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Speaker 1: to fifteen, one hundred and twenty three point five passer

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Speaker 1: rating against blitz packages. So you know, and here's the

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Speaker 1: thing about being able to see the truth before production,

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Speaker 1: is that Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 3: Won the NBA championship. Do you really know why?

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Speaker 1: Because their GM Sam Presty, saw the greatness of SGA

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Speaker 1: before the Clippers did. That's why you're not winning that

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Speaker 1: title without SGA. Sam Presty's like that skinny guy from

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Speaker 1: Kentucky who may have been the second best guy in

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Speaker 1: his college team that is going to be a star.

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Speaker 1: Beat the market. Sam Presty didn't follow the market. If

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Speaker 1: you follow the market, you never get value with anybody. Now,

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Speaker 1: you don't get value in the end when you have

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Speaker 1: to pay SGA. But if you want to get value

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Speaker 1: on quarterbacks and left tackles and star players, you've got

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Speaker 1: to be ahead of the market, not trailing it and

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Speaker 1: copying it. Right, you want to set the trend, not

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Speaker 1: be part of the avalanche of the trend. And here's

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Speaker 1: harball last night on Herbert's ability to beat the Blitz

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Speaker 1: over and over.

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Speaker 2: Last night.

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Speaker 4: He was really doing a tremendous job seeing the field,

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Speaker 4: and which he always does. I mean, it's so rare

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Speaker 4: that he doesn't he doesn't see it or read it,

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Speaker 4: or know the exact coverage and where to go with

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Speaker 4: the ball, and then when it you know it's all covered.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he he did another great job tonight running

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Speaker 4: and picking up first downs with his athleticism. He's just

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Speaker 4: another stellar performance by Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting if you go back to the

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Speaker 1: Clipper ok C trade. The Clipper saw what Paul George was,

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Speaker 1: good player. Okay, see Sam Presti saw what SGA could be.

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Speaker 3: Who did better.

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Speaker 1: One team now runs the lead right at least for

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Speaker 1: the last twelve months. So you know, it's easy to say, well,

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Speaker 1: somebody had to find Derek Jeter when he was skinny

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Speaker 1: and couldn't hit the curve. That's what scouting's all about.

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Speaker 1: It's about seeing stuff before it happens. And nobody's perfect

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Speaker 1: on this stuff, and nobody expects you to be perfect,

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Speaker 1: but you know it's you know these people that are

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Speaker 1: out there.

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Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't won a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Go look at his coaches before Harball and just just

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Speaker 1: just doesn't mean he was great in that playoff disaster

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Speaker 1: last year. But he's a special kind of player. Blazing five.

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Speaker 1: Top of the Hour Rachel Nichols. Next Hour, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: goes back. He gets to face the Packers. It'll be

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, which I think is a really interesting game.

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Speaker 1: We can put the schedule up. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: a massive upset weekend. I like the favorites. It's it's

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Speaker 1: you know, as the season goes on, the weather gets worse.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I just lean on the best quarterback. Like for instance,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna my guess is Josh Allen beats the

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Speaker 1: Panthers and that Baker Mayfield with an injury ravaged team

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Speaker 1: beats the Saints. The tricky games are when you don't

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Speaker 1: have your star quarterback. I'm gonna take Jalen Hurts at

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Speaker 1: home to beat Jackson Dart. It feels like a favorite

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Speaker 1: weekend and a quarterback weekend because now you get to

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Speaker 1: a point where everybody's got rosters that are incomplete. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: injury ravaged, right it's week eight, Week nine, Week ten,

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Speaker 1: week eleven. Then some of your stars get healthy again.

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Speaker 1: In those injury ravaged weeks, star quarterbacks like Herbert are

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Speaker 1: better than average quarterbacks like Carson Wentz overcoming depleted rosters.

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Speaker 1: So this weekend there are a lot of depleted rosters.

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Speaker 1: In most instances, I'm just gonna take the better quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I do think Aaron and green Bay. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's hostile, but it is tasty. You like Green Bay

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Speaker 1: and that one j Mac.

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Speaker 3: You know, I want to take Green Bay.

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Speaker 5: They've let me down. So the first two weeks of

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Speaker 5: the season they were lights out. Remember beat Washington beat Detroit,

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Speaker 5: handily covered both. Everybody's been on Green Bay. I don't

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Speaker 5: think they've covered a game since, and so I've been

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Speaker 5: on a couple of those. So I'm a little reluctant,

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Speaker 5: But you know what, I'm probably gonna end up going

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Speaker 5: in on the Packers. I just don't believe in the

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Speaker 5: Steelers defense at all, and I think the Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 5: stuff is overblown against bad teams.

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Speaker 3: You know, something just popped into my head.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about being able to see the greatness

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Speaker 1: of Matt Stafford before he won a playoff game, or

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Speaker 1: seeing the greatness of SGA. There's an old p video

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Speaker 1: the late Bobby Knight was asked about Michael Jordan, remember

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Speaker 1: this before he was in the NBA, and Bobby Knight said,

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Speaker 1: he's the most competitive player I've ever seen. He is

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Speaker 1: the best athlete I've ever seen play basketball. Bobby Knight

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Speaker 1: and I didn't love a lot of things that he represented.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Knight came out and said, that is the best

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Speaker 1: basketball player I've ever seen. His ability, his mobility, his passion,

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Speaker 1: his relentlessness. Bobby Knight said that that is the best.

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Speaker 1: He went third, Jordan went third right, Portland had Drexler right.

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Speaker 3: They went big Hour two next