WEBVTT - SPANKY HAYES - Tuna On Rice, Not Sushi!

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<v Speaker 1>You know when you come from Detroit, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>this guest has to be special to be on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>The official laugh fucked it up. Let's start all over again.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have special

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<v Speaker 1>guest actor, comedian all the way from Detroit. Spanky Hayes

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<v Speaker 1>is in the building. Yes, ma'am, and I'm really excited

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<v Speaker 1>about this moment because this is full circle. We go

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<v Speaker 1>way back, way back, you know, way back. I was

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<v Speaker 1>fresh from New York when I knew you.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was still rocking a lot of times, I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of tens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So we go way back, yeah too, way back. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's good for this episode because I know where to

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<v Speaker 1>dig and search for all the crumbs. But speaking of crumbs, Spanky,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta know what you was eating while you were broke.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so this is pretty simple. You have rice right here,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have tuna. You got butter, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>got hot sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we went back and forth on you know

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<v Speaker 1>what is Spanky gonna eat? And Spanky said tuna and rice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like huh like, And so even before

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<v Speaker 1>you got here, it was like, I would have loved

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<v Speaker 1>to like prepared for you, but I was like, there

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<v Speaker 1>has to be missing ingredients, because surely it can't be

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<v Speaker 1>tuna rice. And this is how desperate I was. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>I buy the tuna in water, but because you said

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<v Speaker 1>tuna and rice, I said, well, maybe he needs some

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<v Speaker 1>soft tuna so that the tuna in oil.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how that's not bad.

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<v Speaker 4>That's because I was like, surely there's missing ingredients.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is a true classic broke dish that has

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<v Speaker 1>never been done on this show. We have to search

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<v Speaker 1>hard for it. So I'm super excited because that means

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<v Speaker 1>the broker the dish, as you guys know, the better

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<v Speaker 1>the stories.

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<v Speaker 3>There we go, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>So seeing that you didn't have to cook it, let's

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<v Speaker 1>watch you prep this dish and walk us through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because most of our audience is listening, not.

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<v Speaker 3>Watching, okay, So for the listeners that should be watching,

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<v Speaker 3>I would just take some rice right here. Then I

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<v Speaker 3>would like, let's take some button.

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<v Speaker 1>And hot though yeah I think it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Warm ish, Yes, it's melting a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, so you put butter in the rice. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like tastes buttery. Yeah, trust me, I'm a butter fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I like every dish.

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<v Speaker 4>I tell people I go through like a stick of

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<v Speaker 4>butter probably every.

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<v Speaker 1>Three dishes I make. That's how much butter I go through.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take a whole stick of butter in fire steak.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I feel like I would want to eat that steak.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Really Okay, what seasonings do you put though?

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<v Speaker 3>Just like Lauri season salt. Lauri's again some kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like garlic.

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<v Speaker 1>So, guys, I'm watching him mash the butter into the

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<v Speaker 1>rice and it's going down. Okay. You know, I had

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<v Speaker 1>someone on the show I think they did like eggs running,

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<v Speaker 1>eggs and rice, and it was actually, you're pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>So I could see that running.

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<v Speaker 1>See that you your eggs running.

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<v Speaker 3>I like, I like all kinds of eggs. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>I can see that, like if you got like salmon

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<v Speaker 3>coquettes and you got rice and then you got eggs,

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<v Speaker 3>so then maybe the eggs kind of go over into

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<v Speaker 3>the rice. I can see that.

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<v Speaker 1>So is this a dish that you would eat on

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<v Speaker 1>the road or is this like a dish you eight

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<v Speaker 1>when you broke?

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<v Speaker 3>I used to eat this when I was totally broke.

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<v Speaker 3>I could only thing. I would have to have somebody

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<v Speaker 3>make the rice for me. But it's so easy to

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<v Speaker 3>steal tula. You know what I'm saying out of the supermarket.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you say steal?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean if I had to, if I had

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<v Speaker 3>to steal, you know what I'm saying. So it was great, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And then okay, I think I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Well the cool thing about you know today's episode. I

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<v Speaker 1>am an avid sponsor of the minute rice you put

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<v Speaker 1>in a microwave a minute in thirty seconds, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the best rice money can buy. Okay, here's here. You

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<v Speaker 1>can make both at the same time. So we got

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<v Speaker 1>the rice the buttery rice in a bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Okay, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it real

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<v Speaker 4>for all y'all listeners, see if this really hits.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I was gonna ask you how many times have

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<v Speaker 3>you not liked the dish?

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<v Speaker 1>There are a couple of dishes that I definitely will

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<v Speaker 1>never eat again. And that was the tuna casserole shout

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<v Speaker 1>outs to Uplift the Marketplace. I actually hated that dish.

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<v Speaker 1>And then uh, the pickled egg by Miss Jackson.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that sounds terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the only two dishes that like, I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>eat in life.

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<v Speaker 3>So now, if you like hot sauce, no, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>like hot Nope. Okay, so don't put that. So you

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<v Speaker 3>might want to put like maybe just a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little assault, okay, just a little, but the bowl the

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<v Speaker 1>butter has salted.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you wanted them healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not. I just I'm just not from Cali

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't do that. Can I take this one?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure? Yeah? Okay, so you said so that's oh so I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just okay, that's it. That's it, because you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>me having a heart attack while interviewing. I was interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>someone I was interviewing and I think they put a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of.

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<v Speaker 4>Hot sauce and it was too much. So I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 4>we're just gonna mix it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just you just get in there and do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought for sure you were forgetting like mayo or.

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<v Speaker 3>Something that'll be like a sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's see, let's see, let's see if it's hitting,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, tell me what do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Surprisingly, No, I'm gonna break this because this dish costs

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<v Speaker 1>like three dollars and you can. You could literally make

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of them because I did two cans of tuna,

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<v Speaker 1>expensive packet of pre made rice. It was like two bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>You could put lemon, you could put let me tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>This can definitely hit and I I could see like

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<v Speaker 1>you adding lemon.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really see see.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're broke, for sure, for sure, this dish

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<v Speaker 1>will carry you through. I'm trying to tell you it's

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<v Speaker 1>like eating like a king on a budget though, because

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<v Speaker 1>you have your protein and you have a rice and

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<v Speaker 1>it's feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't work out right after this, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for my child because if I'm ever desperate,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make this.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like my daughter would really love this. You're

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna give this to school school. I come home

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes what am I gonna give her? But this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Does this pre eat well too?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I never tried to cook it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just always let me tell you perfect dish.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. See you were scared.

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<v Speaker 1>I was definitely scared because I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Be dry as hell, but good as long as it

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<v Speaker 3>got buttered and you got like some salt or is

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<v Speaker 3>like some lemon, or this hot sauce boom you own.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been sold by the way I'm eating it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good, guys, sell.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, so I can get you to spell all the

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<v Speaker 1>team good.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, I'm ready. I red tea.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, that's a great dish than you like.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm ever struggling, that's going to be my go to.

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<v Speaker 1>And guys, it's better than ramen. If you've been eating

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<v Speaker 1>ramen for like weeks, switch it up. Do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then my family, my dad's side of the family

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<v Speaker 3>is from Cuba, so that's kind of where I got

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<v Speaker 3>it from, you know what I'm saying. But they would

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<v Speaker 3>do it like spam, but I don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate Oh I tried spam on this show. That's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing. I'll never do spam. Thank you for reminding me.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate space. So those are my three will never

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<v Speaker 1>do again. I hate spam. I tried it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, spam is terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so salty, right, So I tried it with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't be great with this, Like if you do

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<v Speaker 1>the corn beef with the rice.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe and an egg that might be good too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. You know, you're inspiring me.

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<v Speaker 3>So there we go. That's what we're here.

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<v Speaker 1>So take us back to what was going on during

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<v Speaker 1>this era.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I find myself still there sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I like that. I like that. So you've rolled

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<v Speaker 1>the roller coaster wave of having money and losing money,

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<v Speaker 1>having money and losing money, Oh my god, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you also rode the wave of popularity and being in and.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, out right right, I would say, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't we do this since this dish is a

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<v Speaker 1>rolling Yeah, let's take us back. Take us back to Detroit,

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Detroit is a great place to be from, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>very hard. Like people are hard, women are very hard.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like your daddy is mean, your granddaddy mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like that. It's like kind of like New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, i'll tell you this. I went to Detroit and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know what to think. It was like there

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe a block where there was two houses that

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<v Speaker 1>were legit, and then like everything around looked like a

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<v Speaker 1>bomb headed. And if it was California, they would have

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<v Speaker 1>revitalized the whole thing. But you're like, wait, y'all lived

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<v Speaker 1>here how long and it's still looking like.

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<v Speaker 3>This and it's a whole city like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised when I go down to Detroit that people

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<v Speaker 1>it's so hard to see past your environment growing up

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<v Speaker 1>in it. But to get out of that environment, I

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<v Speaker 1>have so much respect for people because it's like, man, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to see through the dirt. Yes, you had

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<v Speaker 1>to see your dreams through like I don't know you'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to. I don't know where do you get your

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<v Speaker 1>inspiration from in Detroit? Is it TV?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Because well it's so violent there and it's so

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<v Speaker 3>like you gotta like sell down on how far I

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<v Speaker 3>can go in here, but you gotta like sell drugs

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<v Speaker 3>and you gotta like do weird shit. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like from sixteen yeah yeah, So you're doing some crazy

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<v Speaker 3>stuff to get money. And then most of the time

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<v Speaker 3>your mother's at work because they have Chrystler forward and

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<v Speaker 3>like that. So a lot of people work in the plants,

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<v Speaker 3>but if you work in a plant, you work in

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<v Speaker 3>like twelve sixteen hours, so your parents are not around.

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<v Speaker 3>So you grow up like really fast, like so extremely fast.

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<v Speaker 1>You're growing up fast in Detroit. At what age do

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<v Speaker 1>you decide I'm leaving.

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<v Speaker 3>Soon as I graduated from high school, I said, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, I can't I can't live and then I

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<v Speaker 3>was so disappointed. My grandmother lived in Harlem, New York,

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<v Speaker 3>so I would go there every summer, and then like once,

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<v Speaker 3>I was kind of too big, Like I could have

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<v Speaker 3>either moved there or moved to LA, but I just

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<v Speaker 3>chose to LA because I didn't know nothing about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, but what inspired you to move? Did you know

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do comedy at that point or did

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<v Speaker 1>you know you wanted to be in the industry like

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<v Speaker 1>or you just wanted to get run me away from Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I had to get the f away from Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>But I wanted to be an actor. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>want to do comedy. I wanted to be an actor,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought in Detroit I couldn't like find a

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<v Speaker 3>way to do that. It was like no outlets really,

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<v Speaker 3>and then in New York it seems so serious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, New York is also extremely fast paced compared to Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>Ferry like extremely.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like if you go from Detroit to New York,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you make it from Detroit straight to

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<v Speaker 1>New York. I mean you need them like an Olympic

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<v Speaker 1>metal because the pace is completely different.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, how we get there. I would leave at

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<v Speaker 3>ten o'clock at night on the bus from Detroit, and

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<v Speaker 3>like eleven o'clock, like in the before noon, I would

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<v Speaker 3>be in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. But even though you were familiar with New York,

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<v Speaker 1>you still chose La. Yeah, okay, So you arrive in

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<v Speaker 1>LA suitcase. What's going on? You're straight from high school.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your pockets looking like?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your connects looking like? Nowhere you have no connects nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I just came out here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So you come out here and I hate the picture.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be a star. And I have my cousins,

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<v Speaker 3>some cousins out here already, and they were like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we heard that before. But I'm like, no, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>get it. I'm going to be a star.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's funny because everybody I meet from Detroit it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like that is how it goes down. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>like when I moved out from New York, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have nobody to like commadrate with, but I see Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>people in the industry, they kind of stick together, like

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<v Speaker 1>they're like family. You guys have your own college. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you call it? Like fraternity? Almost you from Detroit? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>What what? What a dope? You second you hear that,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, the fraternity just started, and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, it's crazy about that. It's like it's so many

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<v Speaker 3>comics that I that's from Detroit that I meet out

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<v Speaker 3>here that I didn't know in Detroit, but they just

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<v Speaker 3>instantly family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, the Detroit. Yeah, you guys have a ride

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<v Speaker 1>or die. I don't think New York has really had

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<v Speaker 1>that because we meet people from New York and it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're cool. But Detroit y'all is like, okay, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>part of my hood. Now what you need just call.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you'll be crashing on each other's couches.

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<v Speaker 3>Couch surfing. I slept on thousands of couches.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, okay, so you're in you're out here. How

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<v Speaker 1>long would you say you were struggling before you got

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<v Speaker 1>your first big opportunity?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow? Say about about five years?

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<v Speaker 1>Five years?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I was, Yeah, of strug and you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Only doing acting. You're not even doing comedy, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I got to LA, I started doing comedy

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<v Speaker 3>and well a little bit before that. But when I

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<v Speaker 3>got to La, I started seeing like Ricky Harris and

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<v Speaker 3>all these big guys, and I'm like, oh, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well I'm really in comedy now, so I took it

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more serious, but it was it was

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<v Speaker 3>the beautiful struggle. I was broke. I used to have

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<v Speaker 3>to date fat girls that I don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>And to like survive eat, Yeah, stuff like that. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be the Detroit Player story of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit guy's move here. They're like, well, let's find abroad.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's weird because the culture in Detroit. You said,

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<v Speaker 1>the women are harder.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, so you can't do that to them in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>But in La it's like the land of the adopt

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<v Speaker 1>adopter by friend.

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<v Speaker 3>La is like the prettier girls they like give more

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<v Speaker 3>than nicer, you know. So that's beautiful truck girls. This

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<v Speaker 3>is beautiful Detroit girls. But it's just so hard to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>Defences are up well because Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of like New York, because you like New York people,

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<v Speaker 3>girls they walk with the headphones on. You can't even

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<v Speaker 3>talk to you. So it's kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to my music.

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<v Speaker 3>Then, So now they don't even turn around. It's like yo, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>they just keep walking like yo the fuck. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Detroit was horrible at the time. It's beautiful to be

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<v Speaker 3>from there because I knew what kind of real life was.

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<v Speaker 3>But then once I got indulged in La, it was

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<v Speaker 3>like I didn't go home for like eight years. So

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<v Speaker 3>my mom didn't see me for like eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you didn't even go back to visit.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So comedy scene in LA is notorious for not paying comics.

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<v Speaker 1>So which and what I've learned through eating while broke, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you ain't even eat it is I can't because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be all up in your See you think you

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<v Speaker 1>can sneak a bite, but when I hit you with

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<v Speaker 1>a question, you're gonna have to swallow fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I've learned is, you know, with the comedy scene,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could correct me if I'm wrong, but it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like you got to pick your comedy club and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of work at work, at work and to death right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's your loyal club, and then the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>you're like a little pop up. So which was your

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<v Speaker 1>loyalty club?

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<v Speaker 3>I was you know, I was extremely lucky. When I

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<v Speaker 3>first came here. I was like, what like seventeen eighteen,

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<v Speaker 3>and I did a Fat Tuesday. My cousin. Damn, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>You forgot your cousin name.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what's so funny. That's right, my funny. Keith

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<v Speaker 3>watched it is my cousin. So he always tell me,

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<v Speaker 3>don't call him older cuts. I'm saying I'm your older cut.

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<v Speaker 3>Just tell your cousin. That's funny about that. But my cousin,

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<v Speaker 3>he took me around like he took me shopping. He

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<v Speaker 3>took me like the Mayl Rose first day, first day,

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<v Speaker 3>and it took me Mayl Roads, took me to Roscos,

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<v Speaker 3>took me all these places and got me off fresh.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was like, I'm taking you to the comedy store.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was fat Tuesday. So I was like, ah cool,

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<v Speaker 3>like Snoop Dogg. Everybody was there. This is like right

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<v Speaker 3>before Tupac got killed.

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<v Speaker 1>He was wow, okay, whoa crazy? Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>So I went up. They didn't want to let me up.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess keep like Paige gud Tori a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>dollars and he let me up and I got a

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<v Speaker 3>standovation and Missy Shore, the owner of the comedy store,

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<v Speaker 3>was sitting right in the audience get the freak out right,

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<v Speaker 3>and she came right up to me like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to be a regular, And I was like, what, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but I didn't even know what I was. Yeah, yeah, sure, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a paid regular and you kinda every night. So

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<v Speaker 3>from that day on, I was every day, all three rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>I would hit all three rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>No way, But what was the pay looking at because

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<v Speaker 1>comedy store doesn't really pay that much.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they pay like seventy five dollars if you pay record,

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<v Speaker 3>so but imagine seven days a week going up at

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<v Speaker 3>least twice yeah in nineteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah. Shoot, First of all, you're going you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid to tell jokes. There's no greater dream than that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to take your career.

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<v Speaker 3>If I was skilled, you could do it cracking junks forever.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that was like kind of a blessing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't the answer, but it was a little better.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody was jealous of me, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that was your first night. Yes, sh okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you hit home runs, so your confidence must have been

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<v Speaker 1>through the roof through But you were still struggling.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then I would do extra work. I did

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<v Speaker 3>shows like Moesha, I did Steve Harvey. Steve Harvey kicked

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<v Speaker 3>me off the first day that was on it because

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<v Speaker 3>he was like showing some shoes and you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>from Detroit. We wear gators and he was like, should

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<v Speaker 3>wear the gators or should where it is? And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, gators, but I kept walking because I know

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know him. And he was like, come here,

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<v Speaker 3>you little, you know, cussing me out, little, Come here?

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<v Speaker 3>What you doing about gators? I was like, I'm from Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>And then this other dude that was from Detroit too,

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what we do.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he like kept riding me. I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, but it was That was cool

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<v Speaker 3>because I left there and went to Molitia. That's where

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<v Speaker 3>all my friends were. Okay you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I met a lot of fans. I met Kobe

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<v Speaker 3>Bryant there.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you made did you make?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Because this industry is also I feel like this industry

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<v Speaker 1>is weird because you make you don't really make friends

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<v Speaker 1>in this game. It's like, once your season's done, the

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<v Speaker 1>friendship time.

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<v Speaker 3>Cards, everybody numbers changed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yo, we literally were in the trenches together

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<v Speaker 1>for ten years, and now you don't take my calls.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, if the contracts don't merge together, then

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<v Speaker 1>the friendship's over. It's really weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It is really weird. And yeah, it was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like that, a little like that Brandy. She always speaks

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<v Speaker 3>to me though, so that's cool. I don't see Countess.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a pallbearer for Lamon Bentley. That was like

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<v Speaker 3>my first Hollywood friends and he was crazy as hell.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was my boy though. And yeah, so and

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<v Speaker 3>then Kobe was going with Brandy at the time. Remember,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's when I met oh, okay, okay, and then

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<v Speaker 3>later on in life I met him again. I met

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<v Speaker 3>the eight Kobe eight and twenty four, okay, because like

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<v Speaker 3>his wife was, you know, Mexican, is Mexican, and my

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<v Speaker 3>girl at the time was Mexican. And they went to

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<v Speaker 3>school together, okay, and we just randomly bunked into each

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<v Speaker 3>other and I was like, oh shit, that's Kobe, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew he wasn't gonna know me. That was like

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<v Speaker 3>years later, so, but yeah, we got cool. Like Kobe

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<v Speaker 3>was my boy, Like he used to give me ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time he saw me, he gave me something crazy nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's definitely a nice personality behind.

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<v Speaker 3>The camera to me, he was, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he liked he was like acting because he knew nobody

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<v Speaker 3>liked him really and he wanted to like leave La,

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<v Speaker 3>but he just kept winning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he.

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<v Speaker 3>Couldn't leave you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh damn, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he because he knew no nobody liked him here,

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<v Speaker 3>Like they just tolerated Kobe.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ask me, you think so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because the two first three rings they say that

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<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't have him without shot, so that's.

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<v Speaker 1>The one major Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he got rid of shock. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 3>he got called into that case and there was that

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<v Speaker 3>case card. It was kind of over. Yeah, they really

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<v Speaker 3>now they didn't have to like him like Kobe. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's crazy because like you know, after it's passing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you can't go nowhere in La without seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a Kobe. But that's how LA is for everyone that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't live in La, that's how LA is.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, they only like you when you die.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they don't like you. They don't like you. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't like you. After you die, they tell.

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<v Speaker 3>You how great you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't hear that freaking sucks.

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<v Speaker 3>That sucks. But that's all it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so after you're doing your comedy thing, you're struggling

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<v Speaker 1>to to at least make money, but you're making connects

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<v Speaker 1>and your waves in the industry. Okay, at what point

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<v Speaker 1>in the industry do you feel like you got Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really onto something.

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<v Speaker 3>When they let me do comic view out here like everything. Okay,

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:04.679
<v Speaker 3>So a lot of things were going on when I

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.640
<v Speaker 3>lived in New York in Detroit, but I didn't get

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 3>none of those TV shows until I moved to LA

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 3>So it was like, so to me, it was the

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:14.879
<v Speaker 3>best thing I could have ever did, But none of

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:18.640
<v Speaker 3>those checks were like life changing. It was just like

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 3>for the moment I could pay my rent. You know,

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.199
<v Speaker 3>I can get caught up all three months, so let

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 3>me pay one and a half. But they were all

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 3>like little things to get you, to make sure your

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 3>confidence don't get shattered.

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's all it is. It was like enough

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>to keep you on the path, but not fully quick.

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Exactly like, you know, to keep you interested.

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I feel like there was a part. I

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 1>mean obviously, well you and I go back to the

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 1>nick days. But I talked to you about this all

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the time. I was very young. I was like twenty

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>two to however old. But I remember seeing grown on

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:02.160
<v Speaker 1>like struggling.

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Like, and I'm a young person. I'm like, if y'all.

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Struggling, like right right, future?

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was like shit, and you know, I'm in

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>my I'm starting getting my late twenties. I'm like, shit,

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I may have to book it soon because this ain't

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>looking too promising if the forty and fifty year olds

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 1>are in the closets, I mean literally speaking in the

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>closets and yeah, And that was like for me, it

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 1>was like, yo, what are you in it for? And

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I started to come to the thing that like maybe

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.639
<v Speaker 1>some guys were in it for girls or status, but

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 1>it definitely wasn't about money. And that's what I kind

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>of started to learn about the industry, and I kind

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of was like, well, this this seems like more of

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a pimp game than it is.

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's the biggest form of the pimp game.

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 3>And then it's more like for a comedian in LA

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 3>like the stage time is the money. It's not like

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 3>the money. You never see money like you like never

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.479
<v Speaker 3>see it. Get a job, yeah yeah, until then you

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 3>have to go do extra work. You gotta go to

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 3>the piece. And then now you think you're kind of

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 3>famous because once you get popular, so you don't want

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 3>a job.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want a real and that is the dilemma

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.120
<v Speaker 1>that I'm so confused about, Like would you ever want

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to get a real job after everything you've accomplished.

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I tried. I tried because I retired for eight years.

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember that.

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:27.640
<v Speaker 3>So when I first like retired like three months later,

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 3>it was like, Okay, where's the money coming from? I

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:32.679
<v Speaker 3>ain't going on stage, so I don't want to go

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 3>on the road, I don't want to I don't want

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 3>to read the script, I don't want to do none

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 3>of that. So where's the money coming? So I kind

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 3>of look for odd jobs and get construction for a second,

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 3>and then I like start growing.

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 1>With eat, you know, but before you got to the

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 1>step away point, because I want to get there with you.

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think that is probably one of the parts

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.400
<v Speaker 1>that I'm most intrigued about because I think a lot

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 1>of people, at least I don't know people from our

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>circle have been like this, I'm not doing it anymore

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 1>besides you and me, because I took a ten year

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 1>I think I took a ten year leave before I

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 1>came back to eating while broke and I was like, oh,

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>ship just off the roller decks. Oh yeah, I took

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>a ten year leave.

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 3>That's why you look so good? No, for real, Yeah,

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 3>because you know, there's this city will beat you up.

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>It will beat you up. But I was definitely I

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>took a tenure leave. But it was mainly because you know,

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 1>I saw people struggling for so many years, and it

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>was men that It wasn't women, it was men with families.

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think that to me was just every day

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>going into the office and seeing that I was like,

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 3>What, people arguing and having the worst attitudes. It was bad, man,

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 3>It was bad. It was bad. But yeah, and at

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 3>that time, I was just making kids. I wasn't trying

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 3>to be no family. I was just.

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>You were you were a kid, for you, for you,

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 1>and you get pregnant.

0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it was beautiful, beautiful.

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Are you how many kids you got? I got five again, Okay,

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>well you're not nowhere near his nixt level of he

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>went down fast in a year, so wow. But I

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>have theories about that.

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 3>I do too.

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:17.399
<v Speaker 1>I have theories because he was such a squeaky clean

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>person when we knew him, like no drinking, no alcohol,

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>no tattoos. I mean, of course he got the Mariah tattoos.

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 3>He smokes weed.

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, he smokes me. I heard he may drink

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a little.

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Okay, maybe I'm be lying. I don't know.

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 3>If you can have twenty kids in a month.

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you, you have to drink. I have a theory.

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to it. But I have a theory that

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I think happened because if you knew you know, obviously,

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the way we saw him, he was very squeaky clean. Yeah,

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>so as far as that side of life.

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Right, But he was hitting everybody he was.

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was always a whore. But you gotta think

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>when we were around him the most, he was married

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>to Mariah, So during that phase we didn't.

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 3>See that well. I knew him like or he even got.

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Anything that I knew him before, and he was he

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>got to I remember there was a point where he

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>was doing like a g T was married to Mariah,

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>and there was like a hall because I think he

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>smashed so many people. And I think he had to

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>be on set with the Pussycat doll girl and he

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>smashed her too. You know what I'm saying. It was like,

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>what lady has he not smashed?

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 3>I heard that he was on a date with the

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:37.479
<v Speaker 3>pussycat girl and saw Mariah was like, here he had

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 3>some cat money. It was in New York. Here's some

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 3>cat money. I do something.

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay. I didn't know that story, but I've always

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>known that he was a woman's like. I don't. I

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think a lot of women ship. There was points

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>where I don't want to get I remember there was

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>a point when I think Caleb got a couple of

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>calls because some of the chicks would show up to

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the studio. I swear to god, they would be wearing

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>a paper thin dress and nothing under it.

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 3>They was there trying to get on the show.

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>They was trying to do something, trying to get a show.

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Nick, though, shout out to Nick. So

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>take me back. So you're you're you're riding the wave,

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>You're starting to build up momentum. I think you came

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>out here in the nineties.

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 3>You said I came out here in ninety six. Okay,

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 3>So so back to Nick Cannon. So then that's when

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 3>I meet Nick. So we're still young, like okay, so

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 3>I was like almost old enough to get in the

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 3>club and he was like not old enough at all.

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 3>So we would they would make us go to like

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 3>the kitchen, stay away from the like alcohol, can be

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 3>around alcohol. So it's like, so that's how we came

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 3>We like got cool, came up, you know, like bond

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 3>like that. So it's like, yeah, well if you get on,

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get on. If you get on that we

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 3>did that them near blood Sacrifice then yeah. So it's like,

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 3>so that's how we were still friends in those times

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 3>when I met you, because they started from the beginning.

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, and so when I met Nick, we were

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 3>both trying to like do something. He was trying to

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 3>I was like, no, don't do extra work. You don't

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 3>need to do that, Like, dude, you're gonna be something

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 3>like trust me.

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>It was this now prior to drumline.

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Huh, this is before drumping. Yeah, ok, yeah, this is

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 3>before he didn't have anything. Yeah, he was just like

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 3>going to Soul trained and then if if they don't you.

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Know how I used to do soul training. Oh man,

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the Soul trained hustle.

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Was real, right, So if you know, if they didn't

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 3>pick you, then you know you have some So if

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 3>he didn't get picked, he would come to my house.

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know what I'm saying. So I didn't even

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>know he did that hustle. Okay, I think everybody had

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>to do the soul train hustle when first.

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 3>I did it. At first, I just never got picked.

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's easier for the girls because the girls always

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>got you always had a place train. Ironically, when I

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>did Celebrity High, Soul Trained was the first person I

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>pitched a partner up because they would have all that

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>talent shoot over like two days, and I'd be like, yo,

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>do the talent for my mag But I was so young.

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>They were like kid. Get They were like, yes, it's cute,

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>but just when the camera hit take your butt.

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 3>We don't care about anything else.

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Was over there kissing every person. He could see. That's

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>what does human They can't I definitely received the kiss

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>from Shamar at one point in my life and it

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>was like, dude's weird.

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it wouldn't be interested, No, no, sorry guy.

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Luckily, luckily, I think he settled down. Well hopefully he has.

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>If not, I mean the looks I guess on him,

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>they definitely have a very you.

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Know, yeah, it's crazy. So look, So so I start

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.479
<v Speaker 3>are kind of coaching Nick on how to do comedy.

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 3>You wanted to do comedy. His first manager name was

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Sam and he was from Detroit to ear. Yeah, so

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 3>that's how I met Nick to his first manager. So

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 3>but anyway, lost so.

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Short we and he wasn't writing for Nickelodeon at the time. No,

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't doing an okay okay, so you catch him

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>right out. So that's why you guys were so close.

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So, and then eventually he started getting gigs and

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 3>I would ride with him, just be with him. You know,

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 3>that's my brother, so you know. And then from that

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 3>went to me doing more stand up. And then I

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 3>had a group called the Other Level. When we came

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 3>out here, three of us all from Detroit, and we

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 3>were doing like wild'n out on stage. That was like

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of wile. So then Nick got a deal.

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 4>And hire me Okay, So now were you did you

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 4>know Nile at the time too, Well, you guys met

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 4>me now later.

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Muchs later for me, I don't know. I don't even

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.719
<v Speaker 3>know how long Nick knew now, but I met now

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 3>like when we started production. Yeah, but you know, now

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 3>I's been there from day one two. He was the

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 3>first head writer and now he's the CEO. About that

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 3>he's had what crazy?

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that.

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 3>I know he was. I'm not sure about today, but

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 3>wall'm out he's like the head guy waking out him

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 3>and uh Goldman, Yeah, yeah, crazy.

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I know that.

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 3>You know he came up.

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>He came up, okay, yeah, because he was on here

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>and he did share that when Nick got his record deal.

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, he was like the road manager for Yeah.

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now's been down forever.

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah.

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 3>So so like me and Nick kind of okay, so

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 3>before he became Nick Cannon and then when he became

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Nick Cannon, I saw him again and he was like, yo,

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 3>where you've been here? You need some money? Great? He

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, I want to give your job, man,

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 3>come on just to hang with me. And so but

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 3>I was on the road a lot at that time,

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 3>so I was seeing when I seen him, but then

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 3>when he got walling out, it was history.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>That was it, you know.

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 3>But you know, my other three partners were kind of

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 3>mad about that because they felt like they should have

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 3>been on the show. It never worried, okay, yeah, so

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 3>that made it look like he kind of stole the show.

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know what I mean?

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 3>So, oh yeah, yeah, and Nick knew everybody. He knew

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 3>all of us. We were called the Other Level. You

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 3>can google it. We had we had deals with Will

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Smith connects to Nick again.

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:49.439
<v Speaker 1>So you guys were doing the improv show and.

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Then right we would like do skids, we do improv,

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 3>and then we would rap and then we would sing

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 3>a song.

0:35:55.800 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>So don't that song like that is exactly like thank you.

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>So then he recruited.

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:03.839
<v Speaker 3>You, right because I was the leader of the group

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:04.720
<v Speaker 3>and his friend.

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, of course. And then so he ends up

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>getting a show deal. He puts you on the show

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>of course your friends. So you're like, whatever, no need to.

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:15.720
<v Speaker 3>Well I had to take care of him for a while.

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Who the three other guys.

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.879
<v Speaker 3>Because we were all in la starting. Yeah, and now

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 3>our show has been done, our show is happening, and

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm the only one on it, so I had to kind.

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Of yeah, yeah, to keep the peace.

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 3>And their family too, So you know I would have

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 3>did it.

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Do you think Nick felt some type of way about

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 1>it or well, he wasn't friends with them, so he.

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Was friends with him. But I think Nick tried to

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:45.359
<v Speaker 3>just forget that. Yeah, like it's already moving, The train

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 3>is already moving, so you know, let's not forget what

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 3>we left behind. Let's just keep going forward. Yeah, you know,

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 3>that's yeah, but you know what I'm saying. So, but

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, and it's not the down Nick or not.

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm just telling you history, you know, like, and if

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 3>you ask him, if he don't say something close to this,

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:03.359
<v Speaker 3>he's lying yeah.

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well either way, it's but you can see as

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Yeah, I mean the way you say it.

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I only can say how it happened.

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>So then all right, So then the show gets picked up.

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>You're on the show, your popularity and your money starts

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to rise.

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Right. Well, first, first, here's another reason why I know

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 3>that they knew they got the show for me. I

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 3>was the first one to get fired before the show

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 3>even aired, before we could take one episode. They fired me.

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 3>Why because they said I was too in charge. They

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 3>said I knew I would come out more. You know

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 3>how everybody got yeah, well, well he's taking charge of

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 3>everything because it was my show.

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you were yeah so and it's your show.

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:50.800
<v Speaker 1>You have an opinion, more input, and you're more passionate

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>about it.

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 3>Right, but anything, if anything, I was trying to like

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:57.399
<v Speaker 3>show them like, no, man, don't waste your time doing

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 3>it this way. Let's do it this way and then

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 3>it'll be faster, be funnier.

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 1>So they fired you, But how'd you get back?

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Because I decided that they're not about to do my

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 3>show without me. So I went back to the studio

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 3>and Chris Spencer. Chris Spencer, uh, he seen me in

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 3>the lobby and was like, why haven't you been here?

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, they fired me. It was like what.

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 3>So he got nick and nick was like, man, you're

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:24.439
<v Speaker 3>not fired.

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well come on man, suit up, okay, okay, So

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:32.720
<v Speaker 4>I remember.

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>So that was around two thousand and five. Nicko was

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 1>very young man. He wasn't the man he is today.

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm sorry, I have to add badges. By the way,

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>we recently got married.

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Shout out, shout out, to mac Man.

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Congratulations. Yeah, I'm up to Mac probably a couple of years,

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 1>going downtown LA randomly one night, but shout out to Mac.

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:55.760
<v Speaker 1>He was there, there, he was there. I think he

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.280
<v Speaker 1>exited maybe five years ago or six years ago, maybe

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:03.839
<v Speaker 1>somewhere around there. But back then, I don't think Nick

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>had the power to really fire. Like nowadays, if you

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 1>get fired, you'd be like, no, Nick pulled that trigger. Yeah,

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>he may follow in your face, but he pulled that trigger. Yeah,

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 1>definitely pulled it around.

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:27.239
<v Speaker 1>And even if you're questioning it, nah, I don't question it.

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Don't question it. All you got to do is think

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 3>about it. I know I know you here, well, you

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 3>were there, so I know you hear me. So if

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 3>you ever thought about why is this little guy so angry?

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:41.399
<v Speaker 3>That's what I used to be mad about. Yeah, yeah,

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 3>like these niggas took the ship right in front of me.

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you get brought back in, so you're taping.

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 1>You're one of the originals. Okay, So your career starts

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to take all take you off even more. I'm sure

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>your rate for comedy goes up right definitely, And now

0:39:58.600 --> 0:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>you're making art.

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Would you say real I would say, oh, the wild

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 3>texts stupid. We were those first like eight seasons, well okay,

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 3>all of the seasons until he got married, and then

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 3>we broke off for like four years we didn't do

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 3>a show, so that was and then when we came

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.840
<v Speaker 3>back that was the MTV two. So all of the

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 3>original MTV shows we were getting one knee.

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And were you blowing it or were you budgeting it?

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 3>I was. I had like two or three families at

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 3>the time, so I was like, you know, I stayed broke. Yeah,

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, because you know, I got

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 3>a couple of baby mamas and possible and you know, posible.

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 3>I said, yeah, oh, possible because there was one baby

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 3>that I wasn't sure it was mine, but I still

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 3>kind of liked the girl, so I was and then

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't mine. So you know, stuff like that. A

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 3>lot of girls said they have babies by me, but

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 3>they won't take the test for some reason.

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Well that's yeah, well you can't take the testing.

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 3>You can't take the testing.

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no child sport for you? Yeah, so are you

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:05.720
<v Speaker 1>on child sport?

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 3>I paid child sport for my son Carlos, who's the

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:13.879
<v Speaker 3>Japanese guy with the Mexican name, how about that?

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, yeah, so you gotta okay.

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 3>He's what sixteen now, so I won't be for a wow.

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>But the rest of them, they didn't put you on.

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 3>No, they they always had LLCs and companies, so I

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 3>will have my money to Okay. Should I say that.

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I should not say that that none of these women

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:34.720
<v Speaker 1>listen to the show.

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 3>I I'll just trying to.

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it, but like, I'm pretty

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 1>sure there's some dude listening out there.

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 3>Like she said, well, well, Bob, been trying to put

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 3>your child sport forever. Why can't she do it? I

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 3>was like, because I hired my money in companies, Like

0:41:57.760 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna show me how to do that?

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, sure, that's so funny, that is hilarious.

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there is a guy somewhere out there like checkmate.

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, get LLC and get a business account, and

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 3>you get a business account then you.

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, said but don't do it to avoid oh

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 1>no no, but definitely do it to even protect yourselfe

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>how to protect yourself. I tell people all the time,

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're even a creator, no check should ever be

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>written directly to you, no ever.

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 3>And you know that's the biggest mistake in black Hollywood.

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I can see that.

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you got it. And it's so bad it

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 3>don't matter.

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Just write me to check, write me to check.

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 3>I signed it right here.

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you get And the crazy thing is like

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the other thing. Every time you fill out of W

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 1>nine and someone's paying you, guys, and it's two hundreds,

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter how much it is. Think about it.

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>You're signing W nine, you're going to get tax tax

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and if you're getting that check written directly to your

0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna pay double the tax than you would as

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>a corporation.

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 3>I swear to God. So you got to get incorporated.

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Man, immediately. Immediately make sure those checks are not written

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 1>to you. I don't care if you got to tell

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:11.240
<v Speaker 1>them delayed payment.

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 4>Do not get that check written to I can't tell

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 4>you how many times I've talked this lesson and.

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Take it.

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Katie and Jared OUTNN told y'all to get a corporation.

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Shout outs to y'all corporation. I preach it all day

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 1>to be like you know what, this year will be

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>the year, and they never do it. The day after

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the day I send them money to corporation will be

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the proudest day of my life. But right now they're

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 1>going to pay double the tax.

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 3>Gotta get that.

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>They gotta get that.

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 3>So that's what I've been doing for years, and it

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 3>worked for me. I can't say that I made that

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 3>much money to hide, but yeah, I was starving. You

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 3>know how this shit go so so cool?

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 1>You were breaking off these other guys, your careers taking off, Uh,

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:01.239
<v Speaker 1>your careers, taking off. Everything's going on.

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm on TV every day.

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Now, do you start to pick up vices?

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:12.800
<v Speaker 3>What do you mean, like cocaine and something? Yeah, something

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 3>I used to It was like, okay, here's the thing

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.400
<v Speaker 3>about me and drugs. I like I like drugs.

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Can I say that you can always say that I

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>love drugs.

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I love them. I mean mushrooms. I'll still take them.

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm still probably high right now. Mushrooms. Cocaine.

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 3>I can't do as much because a lot of people

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 3>died off cocaine. But it was a point where I

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:43.800
<v Speaker 3>used to like it, not cook it or nothing. Yeah, whatever, pills.

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 3>I went through a pill phase, but it wasn't fun.

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 3>I like cocaine okay, but but I don't like it now.

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 3>I can't do it now, Oh you don't. So what

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 3>to many people die?

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Did you know people that died?

0:44:56.239 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Teddy b what comedians? Comedians? I don't want to

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:07.360
<v Speaker 3>name any names. I don't want to slander anybody. I

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:11.160
<v Speaker 3>think this is what I personally think. I think cocaine

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 3>mixed with the shock.

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 1>You yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's all I think. Well, okay,

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 1>so the reason why I brought that up is because

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, the double works and ministerious ways,

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 1>whether it's girls, drugs or whatever. And I had to

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 1>bring that up because, like I said, there was a

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 1>point where I knew men in the industry that were broke,

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and I started to get to this point where it's like,

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 1>if you're broke, then there's gotta be another vice that

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.760
<v Speaker 1>you're getting some level of achievement from the standard game. Yeah,

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean being around n Yeah, being around Nick, it

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>was definitely you hang with Nick, you're gonna get free

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Hanging around Nick, you're gonna get free status. But you know,

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:55.839
<v Speaker 1>even with that, you had to still be smart enough

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to make.

0:45:56.800 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 3>Money because that was like before clout. So it wasn't

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 3>like we were getting Instagram fans. Yeah, it was just

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 3>more we had to learn how to make money from it.

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 3>That was very hard. It's very hard to make money

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:13.360
<v Speaker 3>off the cloud. Yeah. Yeah, and you know and someone

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:13.879
<v Speaker 3>else like.

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 1>You, so you could pull it off.

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 3>But it just depends on the level of life and

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:19.839
<v Speaker 3>thinking you are.

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Because but there were guys working for free for years,

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>and I felt like they must have been doing it

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>for clout because there was no When I say, I

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, it doesn't even make logical sense.

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 3>People were sleeping in the car.

0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>It was scariest to me. There's nothing more scary than

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 1>seeing like older people broke around you. You'd be like,

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 1>is this my best thing? Like coming from New York,

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:46.319
<v Speaker 1>you see homeless people and be like my parents would

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:48.319
<v Speaker 1>be like that person tried a cigarette. You'd be like, well,

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I've never tried a cigarette.

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 4>Being in the game and seeing like a bunch of

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 4>broke people around the one rich person, it's like, Okay,

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 4>something's not adding up right.

0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 3>And then here's this too, like to be the only

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 3>person with a sandwich and it's all these hungry motherfuckers

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:20.839
<v Speaker 3>around you, Like why didn't we kill Like it's like

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:24.240
<v Speaker 3>a little rulee, like, don't kill the person with the soundwich,

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:27.879
<v Speaker 3>gonna give you a piece, don't worry. Just have faith.

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Stories about people begging the person with a sandwich.

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 3>They'll do it.

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 1>The response wasn't really nice. Oh my god, it was terrible.

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Man, being in Hollywood for all this time, all these years.

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:45.319
<v Speaker 3>When I retired, the first thing people I'll notice people

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 3>will say to me it was like, man, you are

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 3>so stern. Man, you are so mean, Like because I

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.480
<v Speaker 3>was so used to hearing no all the time that

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I had like got immune to it, like no, that

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 3>ain't ship like whatever, No, I'm waiting for the yes.

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 3>But so people aren't used to that. I mean, but

0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 3>we don't know that because we like in this life. Yeah,

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 3>but we don't get like the other side of life

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:11.840
<v Speaker 3>until we go over there and it's like what like

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 3>people here know and cry and go to the hospital

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 3>have a heart attack seizure.

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:21.919
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, yes, another notework, one step closed, Let's

0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 1>get thirty more.

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Right, Like go on right, I'm telling you like know

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 3>to me is like I don't know. Maybe.

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 1>So you're enjoying your ride and you're doing well. You

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 1>have a couple of little families, but at some point

0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:43.480
<v Speaker 1>you decide I'm punching out at that point.

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 3>The point, well, one of them was. I went to

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 3>this audition and it was an ice Cube movie. It

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 3>was called Lottery Ticket in the in the breakdown, it

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 3>had for one of the characters of Spanky Hayes type.

0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, shit, that's me. Everyone's calling me, every

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:09.439
<v Speaker 3>agency calling me. It's all about this one movie. So

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 3>I go there. I read for about twenty times, literally

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 3>in front of ice Cube, in front of O'sha's son,

0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:18.520
<v Speaker 3>in front of his other son, in front of his wife,

0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 3>in front of this producer, front of that producer. I'm

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 3>going to Detroit and see ice Cube and two of

0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 3>his sons on the same plane as me. I'm looking

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:30.480
<v Speaker 3>at him like, uh hello, I'm already on TVA day, man,

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 3>come on, so make a loss short. One day I

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 3>went and read and the lady said, you didn't read

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 3>it like you would normally read it. I was like, well,

0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 3>I did this like thirty times, Like how many times

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 3>do you want me to read it? I was like,

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:48.360
<v Speaker 3>and it says in the breakdowns a Spanky Hayes type.

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 3>She said, we don't really want Spanky Hayes. So I

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 3>was like, huh. So I was like, so you rather

0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 3>have a spanky Hayes type than real?

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:03.759
<v Speaker 1>So they wanted like some kind of stereotypical version of you.

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So I just kind of kicked all the computers

0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:09.000
<v Speaker 3>down in the room and knocked all the ship down.

0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of you. I was just you were

0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:13.720
<v Speaker 1>just pissed.

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 3>I've never heard a person say we want someone just.

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Like you but not not.

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:22.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, It's like what that was crazy?

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:25.360
<v Speaker 1>So you lost it, totally lost it, and.

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:29.760
<v Speaker 3>I didn't verified. I'm pretty sure you was. I probably

0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:33.400
<v Speaker 3>was blackballed after that, but I didn't. I didn't feel

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 3>better about that until I watched Straight Out of Comptent

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:37.440
<v Speaker 3>and saw ice Cube.

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something, My favorite scene in Straight

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Out of Compton was the scene when he took a

0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>bat to everything. And it was mainly because when we

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>had the celebrity high days, I had all these sponsors

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and they would take forever to pay. There were some

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 1>months where I'd be like, Nick, I hate to come

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to you, but man, I can't afford my wrenck this month.

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Like I got money old, I just don't know when

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it's coming. And I was always in that position of like,

0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:06.799
<v Speaker 1>I want to go up to this person's office be like,

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:11.000
<v Speaker 1>motherfucking you kill my company, give me my money. So

0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:13.920
<v Speaker 1>that was like literally my favorite scene. But yes, okay,

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 1>so you saw that scene and then.

0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 3>I thought better. I was like, ok but do you think.

0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 1>That was a real, real thing that happened.

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:25.879
<v Speaker 3>Well, it happened to me, So I can see how.

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 1>When you decided okay, I'm checking out or slash, you

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 1>may have gotten blackballed.

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:34.319
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking maybe, uh, but.

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:36.840
<v Speaker 1>See see did you try to apologize afterwards?

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 3>No? I never reached back out to him. The only

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:42.960
<v Speaker 3>reason why I even wanted to watch the film is

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:44.719
<v Speaker 3>to see who they picked instead of me.

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and who did they pick.

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:48.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know the guy, but he's the guy.

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Remember he was like the d BO guy, the guy

0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:52.040
<v Speaker 3>who kept taking ticket.

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I was reading for that part okay, okay.

0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:57.239
<v Speaker 3>And they kept saying, well, you're too funny and what

0:51:57.360 --> 0:51:58.440
<v Speaker 3>this is a comedy.

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:01.399
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy? It was, and I could see that being

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:04.319
<v Speaker 1>like a trigger, like you want someone like me but

0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 1>not me.

0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, I'm about to break all this ship in.

0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:10.840
<v Speaker 3>So it's like I wish.

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:12.120
<v Speaker 1>I could have been a fly on the wall to

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:12.480
<v Speaker 1>see that.

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 3>You know who was there? Okay, So remember in Destiny's

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Child it was it was first of all, it was

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 3>four different ones. Was it was it was Kelly, it

0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:27.160
<v Speaker 3>was Beyonce, and it was two other ones shorter, one

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 3>else and then the other one who became actress LaToya.

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:33.799
<v Speaker 3>She was okay. So when I walked out the door,

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 3>she was sitting right for real. I said, oh, I

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 3>like your ship man. She was like whoa. She looked

0:52:41.040 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 3>at me like, wow, you're a trip like so yeah.

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:50.759
<v Speaker 3>So at that point I was mad about that then,

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 3>so I was like, I don't want to really do

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:56.919
<v Speaker 3>this no more. So then I went on the road

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 3>a couple of times and I didn't really feel it,

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:00.560
<v Speaker 3>so I didn't really do it as good as I

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:03.200
<v Speaker 3>normally do. So I started, so it start kind of

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:07.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, and then Nick Cannon brought it while a'n

0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:09.840
<v Speaker 3>now back, so I went that's when it was in

0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:15.839
<v Speaker 3>New York and the checks were less than half of

0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:19.799
<v Speaker 3>what they used. So I was like, so all of

0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:23.000
<v Speaker 3>these signs, it's like, man, put this shit, man do

0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:25.680
<v Speaker 3>something else. Like I was already famous. I already been

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 3>famous for years. It was kind of my turn to

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of break off from them anyway and do my

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:33.280
<v Speaker 3>own thing. I just didn't really know and they weren't

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:37.720
<v Speaker 3>really giving like jobs at that time a lot, so boom.

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 3>So I got a podcast right after that. I was

0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:42.440
<v Speaker 3>one of the kind of like the first people to

0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 3>get a podcast. It was called The Spanky Hag Show.

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 3>And one day I had asked, well, we were all

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 3>asking each other questions because I kept it open, and

0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 3>somebody asked me, who do you think is gay in Hollywood?

0:53:56.520 --> 0:53:59.319
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, I threw the question back, who

0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:02.600
<v Speaker 3>you think is So it was my turn again and

0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 3>I just said okay. And if you didn't know this

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:10.839
<v Speaker 3>did like me and him were like beefed out.

0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 4>I did not know likeous, So you don't remember when

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:19.120
<v Speaker 4>did the video with the cold on?

0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:23.960
<v Speaker 3>He was like yeah, that was about me. Oh my goodness,

0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 3>because I said he was gay and then he heard

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 3>that I said that, and he did a video and

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 3>then I did another video and.

0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Was hilarious, Yeah that's hilarious. Yeah, that's really funny.

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:38.480
<v Speaker 3>So that kind of solidified the black ball with black people,

0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 3>because first of all, I'm making trouble and now calling

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:44.560
<v Speaker 3>people gay. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:47.359
<v Speaker 1>So they But luckily it was long before the you

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 1>know the.

0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Right now right, No, it wasn't right now, I think,

0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:55.600
<v Speaker 3>But I think I kind of started the short.

0:54:57.480 --> 0:54:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Don't tell me you're the creator.

0:54:59.040 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 3>I think I.

0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Can culture GBT.

0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:05.120
<v Speaker 3>I want to say I was one of the first.

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, let's rally a group of less now.

0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:11.279
<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing. My cousin is gay. I have

0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:14.880
<v Speaker 3>a couple of gay friends, a lot of gay friends. Actually,

0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:18.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm praised in Hollywood, so people know that

0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:23.280
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't gay bashing. Yeah, it was just me calling

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:26.319
<v Speaker 3>somebody else. But he got so mad about it that

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:29.320
<v Speaker 3>we beefed out for a little while. So that helped

0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:32.680
<v Speaker 3>me retire because I was like, okay, so at least

0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:35.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm on a high note. I'm still on GMZ and

0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:37.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm still doing this, but I don't want to do

0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:39.960
<v Speaker 3>this no more so. And then I got a family,

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:45.120
<v Speaker 3>which I love so much. My wife is my beautiful wife.

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:46.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what I would do without her. She

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 3>kind of she saved me from Hollywood. She like literally

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:51.799
<v Speaker 3>saved me.

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Like, no, bosh, what do you mean by that?

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Because okay, well, of course she knew who I was

0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:01.520
<v Speaker 3>when when we met, but I would tell her like, look,

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:02.400
<v Speaker 3>call me Carlos.

0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:04.360
<v Speaker 1>That's my real name, you know that.

0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:07.560
<v Speaker 3>So call me Carlos. Don't call me Spanky, Like don't

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm not spanky. I am spanky, but don't just call

0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 3>me Carlos. And it's like I was like teaching her

0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:17.640
<v Speaker 3>like the real me. I was like, look, if I

0:56:17.680 --> 0:56:22.439
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have left Hollywood and or met you, I would

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 3>still be there and I wouldn't. I would be nothing.

0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.319
<v Speaker 3>I would be like a junkie one way or the other.

0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a deep statement.

0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because Hollywood is a fix. It's not real. It's

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:38.239
<v Speaker 3>like a fix. It's like a big ass check you

0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:40.200
<v Speaker 3>get one time in your life and you keep trying

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:42.839
<v Speaker 3>to do the same thing to get another check like that, to.

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Get another hit. It's almost like chasing a high.

0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Exactly that that's what it is. And then the more

0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:52.600
<v Speaker 3>people see you, especially like when we were coming up,

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:55.680
<v Speaker 3>like nineties, early two thousands, it was a lot different,

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:59.759
<v Speaker 3>Like appearances meant they meant more. Yeah, like back in

0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:01.800
<v Speaker 3>the up. So it was like now it's.

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Like Instagram era. Well, I feel like it's funny because

0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:06.279
<v Speaker 1>now that we have Instagram, like in the air that

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:08.920
<v Speaker 1>we came from, it was definitely more celebrity driven. I

0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:12.320
<v Speaker 1>think Instagram came out in two thousand and around twenty

0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:13.720
<v Speaker 1>twelve to fifteen or something.

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, damn, I was gonna say like three but.

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>No, it wasn't then three face Yeah, yeah, Facebook or

0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:22.800
<v Speaker 1>my Space, my Space, it was my Space. Facebook came out.

0:57:22.960 --> 0:57:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Remember we used to hang out with Tom from my Space.

0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, I tell people that all the time.

0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:31.600
<v Speaker 1>But now we're in the era where Instagram is, and

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I fear for the world we live in now in

0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the sense of like people that aren't even celebrities are

0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 1>chasing highs from likes, and.

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 3>I say this, I fucking hate Instagram talent. I'm not

0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 3>into it. They're not funny. Uh, they just stay on

0:57:51.160 --> 0:57:53.120
<v Speaker 3>the phone all day. If it was that simple when

0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:55.360
<v Speaker 3>I was coming up, I would be a gazillionaire.

0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:57:56.440 --> 0:58:00.320
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like that that Instagram non talent stuff

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 3>took away with the struggle of it, like the getting

0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:06.680
<v Speaker 3>to know people and sleeping on people couches because because

0:58:06.720 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 3>like at the end of the day, it's not about talent.

0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 3>And that's another thing that broke my heart when I

0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:14.920
<v Speaker 3>found out it wasn't about how funny I was, and

0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:17.240
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't about how many times I was funny, because

0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:19.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, La, you got it. They judge you. Yeah,

0:58:20.080 --> 0:58:22.280
<v Speaker 3>I've seen be funny like thirty times. You know, they

0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:24.760
<v Speaker 3>judge you, they say shit like that. So but once

0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:29.840
<v Speaker 3>I found out it wasn't about that. It's about relationships.

0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:34.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like Hollywood relationship, you hit it.

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I think a keyword Hollywood, because I will say I

0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know how New York is because I haven't really

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:42.920
<v Speaker 1>moved into industry out there, but I will say LA

0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:44.680
<v Speaker 1>is all relationship.

0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:48.280
<v Speaker 3>It's all relationships. It's just it's just like when you

0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:50.480
<v Speaker 3>get something to your producer. You stuck to it. Now

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:53.480
<v Speaker 3>you're on whatever, the biggest show out and then you

0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 3>see me, Hey, what's up. That's how you get job.

0:58:56.480 --> 0:58:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But you want to know something that's tricky about

0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the relationships in hollywod and this is kind of what

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>I was touching on earlier. It's very like fluid. There's

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:08.240
<v Speaker 1>no deep connection. I mean we have, I mean there's few,

0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:10.400
<v Speaker 1>like even from Incredible, I walked away with deep connections.

0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:12.640
<v Speaker 1>But the people that I were even closer to I

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:14.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't walk away with that deep connection from them, and

0:59:14.680 --> 0:59:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you're like, wait, I saw you every day, like you know,

0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:21.720
<v Speaker 1>But I mean there's a like a secret respect. I

0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:26.240
<v Speaker 1>guess you'd say, like, you know, an honorary respect. But

0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:29.479
<v Speaker 1>even Nick Nick can't get your ass on our show

0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:33.000
<v Speaker 1>but likes on the show. But like the truth in

0:59:33.040 --> 0:59:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the matter is is like it's that honorary respect. It's like, yeah,

0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:38.760
<v Speaker 1>you'll see the call, maybe you'll respond, but it's like

0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:41.440
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not hot or we're not doing something together,

0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:45.320
<v Speaker 1>there's no home ownership, then you know, maybe we'll pass

0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to whatever is more convenient. But I definitely hate that

0:59:48.520 --> 0:59:49.360
<v Speaker 1>about Hollywood.

0:59:49.800 --> 0:59:54.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they only hired the green like people who don't

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:55.880
<v Speaker 3>know that they're being took.

0:59:56.200 --> 0:59:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I liked what Orlando had said. He was like,

0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys to look at Hollywood like a job. You're

1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.320
<v Speaker 1>there to do your job, and when there's no job,

1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you can't go to work.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how he said it. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that was the best way to deal with it. But

1:00:10.840 --> 1:00:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I think people coming into the game don't quite get that.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't get it. And here's another thing. They don't

1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:19.680
<v Speaker 3>get like they you're emulating. You're not. That's none of

1:00:19.720 --> 1:00:24.160
<v Speaker 3>the stuff that they do is original. On TikTok, you

1:00:24.160 --> 1:00:27.560
<v Speaker 3>can have you can put up a video and with

1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:30.600
<v Speaker 3>your voice, and I could use your voice on my video,

1:00:31.120 --> 1:00:33.200
<v Speaker 3>So that means you don't even have to use your

1:00:33.240 --> 1:00:36.880
<v Speaker 3>own voice. I could get more hits than you. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's crazy, Like that's absurd, Like I don't even and

1:00:40.320 --> 1:00:42.920
<v Speaker 3>then they don't even know where they got the material from.

1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:44.520
<v Speaker 3>They just doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get a publicity request all the time for eating

1:00:47.720 --> 1:00:50.120
<v Speaker 1>wone Broke and the email will say this person has

1:00:50.200 --> 1:00:53.160
<v Speaker 1>fifteen million TikTok followers and there's a bet to release

1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to EP And I'm like, wait, but it's TikTok where

1:00:55.920 --> 1:00:58.720
<v Speaker 1>people are infamously like just voiceovers.

1:00:58.480 --> 1:01:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Right, come on, not famous.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, But you know, eyeballs equal dollars or what have you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I definitely think that the industry has become diluted.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're back in the game. Yes, So now that

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<v Speaker 1>you're back, I want to know what made you come back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to know what you got coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I came back because I was going crazy trying

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<v Speaker 3>to be normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, yeah, I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to be a normal guy. And the more

1:01:27.360 --> 1:01:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I was getting into it, oh man, that's not the

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<v Speaker 3>life for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's because Hollywood kind of got you

1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:39.000
<v Speaker 1>in the habit and this is the devil's advocate of

1:01:39.080 --> 1:01:39.960
<v Speaker 1>chasing the high?

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<v Speaker 3>I am definitely I was chasing the high.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that many highs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I wasn't. I didn't even know I was

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<v Speaker 3>chasing it, and I was chasing it. So it's crazy

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm still like famous. And by the way, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>famous ain't shit. If being famous is nothing, they're either

1:01:57.000 --> 1:01:58.840
<v Speaker 3>gonna give you money or they're gonna give you fame.

1:01:59.200 --> 1:02:01.080
<v Speaker 3>If they give you money that comes with a job,

1:02:01.320 --> 1:02:04.720
<v Speaker 3>that fame, then that's just the famous gonna wear off

1:02:05.040 --> 1:02:06.200
<v Speaker 3>before you spend your money.

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<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't even equal money.

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<v Speaker 3>Fame doesn't e never, and it's never both of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Like in today's age is a little bit more than

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<v Speaker 3>in the beginning of the two thousands. Like Kevin Hard

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<v Speaker 3>is definitely rich, your famous, Nick Cannon is famous. Uh,

1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:26.960
<v Speaker 3>day Spell is rich and famous? Uh who else?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I will say this though, I feel like there

1:02:30.040 --> 1:02:32.320
<v Speaker 1>is a boyd this is probably gonna get me, But

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel like even with the people you named,

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<v Speaker 1>there was definitely a lot of white.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's all white.

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<v Speaker 1>And that kind of what kind of led me to

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<v Speaker 1>my theory about Nick a little bit, was like, there's

1:02:44.480 --> 1:02:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of power plays behind those big people. Granted

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<v Speaker 1>Nick definitely plays chess not checkers, that that dude he

1:02:51.280 --> 1:02:54.360
<v Speaker 1>could teach a master course of how to move in

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<v Speaker 1>a room full of vultures.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, like jay Z, you know, but but he

1:02:57.440 --> 1:03:00.600
<v Speaker 3>became a vulture. That's that's what Nick is now, he's

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<v Speaker 3>the vulture. I don't know, I mean in a good way.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying nothing bad my brother, but I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>he's adapted to the sharks. Well, yeah, I turned a shark. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of think maybe he was always a shark.

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<v Speaker 3>He was always a shark. He was sark.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say this. I'll say this. One thing I

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<v Speaker 1>learned about Nick, and I try to tell people, is

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<v Speaker 1>like Nick's watching you before you even though he's looking

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, you know, he'll read you, but you'll think

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't even see you in the corner of the room.

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<v Speaker 3>He saw hours ago everything and.

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<v Speaker 1>He's listening to everything. And that's one thing. And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I think it's dangerous in this industry.

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<v Speaker 1>As ego, I always tell people, Man, you got beef,

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<v Speaker 1>don't put it on no email seeing people, don't put

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<v Speaker 1>in a group of text, don't even tell nobody. Just

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<v Speaker 1>go direct to source, because that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be all over the place, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>out of proportion. But listen back to the internet comedians.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I feel like the reason why I don't

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<v Speaker 3>like them is because they took a lot of my

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<v Speaker 3>confidence and a lot of not my confidence, but my

1:04:11.800 --> 1:04:16.080
<v Speaker 3>structure in my blueprint to comedy like I was. I

1:04:16.120 --> 1:04:19.800
<v Speaker 3>did comedy like fearless. There's only a few people like me.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, I got some of it from T. K.

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<v Speaker 3>Kirklin and you know, but in my own version of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I would say something like Corey Holcomb is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of ballsy like that in a sense, but but

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<v Speaker 3>he went further because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't there anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody was there anymore. So it was nobody calling people out.

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<v Speaker 3>It was nobody being real, and that's what it is now.

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<v Speaker 3>They took that. I feel like I'm like Lil Wayne

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<v Speaker 3>like because like all the comedians now are like my sons.

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<v Speaker 3>They took all stuff from me and they don't even

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<v Speaker 3>know who their daddy is. They don't even care who

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<v Speaker 3>they did.

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<v Speaker 1>You're hilarious. I think in some retrospects they know, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's where their way of, you know, pay.

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<v Speaker 3>To me. I go back to what we said earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, it's like they don't give you no

1:05:14.840 --> 1:05:17.600
<v Speaker 3>props to you dead, Like nobody's ever gonna say this,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm gonna sound crazy when they when you show this,

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<v Speaker 3>they can be like, oh, he's so arrogating all that.

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<v Speaker 3>But watch when I die, they're gonna say, who started

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<v Speaker 3>Wilie nowt he's the one who's Yeah, come on, man,

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<v Speaker 3>give me my flowers now man especial flowers.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about what you got coming up? Okay, the Comeback.

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<v Speaker 3>Kid, The Comeback Kid. I got a movie called Back

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<v Speaker 3>on the Strip that comes out August eighteen. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to remember everybody. It has Wesley Snipes, Tiffany Hattish, Bill Bellamley,

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<v Speaker 3>who's one of my favorite guys, uh, Kevin Hart, Gary Owens,

1:05:58.120 --> 1:05:58.959
<v Speaker 3>faise I love.

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<v Speaker 1>These are a lot of heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>Hitters, Yeah, I said, Tiffany. Uh, and the guy ain't

1:06:06.880 --> 1:06:09.800
<v Speaker 3>gonna kill me. His name is Spencer Moore, but Spencer

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<v Speaker 3>Moore played the kid in Creed three, so when the

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<v Speaker 3>kid went to jail, it was the guy who went

1:06:15.480 --> 1:06:18.320
<v Speaker 3>to jail. He's like the star of it. So and

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<v Speaker 3>it's directed by Chris Spencer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, Christ, I'm trying to get Chris Spencer on

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll help you.

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<v Speaker 1>And then are you doing are you doing the I

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<v Speaker 1>know Chris Spencer has that show up in Englewood. What's

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<v Speaker 1>it called? Are you doing those shows anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, the back Yeah, I haven't done it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But so how did you end up getting like from

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<v Speaker 1>being in retirement? Did you get a phone call?

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<v Speaker 2>Like a man?

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<v Speaker 1>We put that jersey back on? We need?

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<v Speaker 3>I was, uh, this is crazy. So me and my

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<v Speaker 3>family we went and by the way, I love my family.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello family. My wife. I got a daughter named Jedi,

1:06:54.840 --> 1:06:57.960
<v Speaker 3>daughter named Lily, and a son named Kobe. So we

1:06:58.120 --> 1:07:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Kobe wasn't born yet. Man, So I was deciding to

1:07:01.560 --> 1:07:03.680
<v Speaker 3>move back to Detroit because I wanted to move back

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<v Speaker 3>and see my mom and stuff. Right, So it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>really going as well as I wanted it to go.

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't know what I was gonna do. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like in the Airbnb and Chris just caused me

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<v Speaker 3>out the book, see what you're doing? Where are you

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<v Speaker 3>at right now? Detroit Ton to Vegas? I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you mean coming Vegas? He was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>got a movie roll for you. Like what, Like, come

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<v Speaker 3>on man, good plan? He was like, no, I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, the only thing, you got to get

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<v Speaker 3>tested and make sure you don't got COVID before you

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<v Speaker 3>can get on the plane. So I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I could do that, and they played they paid for

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<v Speaker 3>my plane, and I paid for my wife and daughter's

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<v Speaker 3>plane and now we're back on the West coast. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>that's crazy. And I was like a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Ago, Yeah, now you're back.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm back now. And I got other movies coming out

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<v Speaker 3>on to B and stuff like that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't count to be uh to be actors, you

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<v Speaker 3>are not a real.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say that.

1:08:03.600 --> 1:08:06.800
<v Speaker 3>If you don't get checks from SAG, you're not real.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait to be UH doesn't get checks from.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's like bootleg shot. I mean nothing against them

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<v Speaker 3>because I've done some Tooby.

1:08:14.840 --> 1:08:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Movies, but but does to be paid decent.

1:08:18.160 --> 1:08:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Toby is kind of like a gig, like like a contractor.

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<v Speaker 3>You get as much money as you negotia and it's

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<v Speaker 3>right there. You get it right now. No, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>not sacked.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, non union on behalf of everybody. I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>you your flowers here. I really appreciate you coming out

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<v Speaker 1>and trust me, I was look, I was so like excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Spanky, I'm gonna remind you, and I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Spanky. Don't forget. I'll see you today. I'm

1:08:46.320 --> 1:08:47.519
<v Speaker 1>gonna see it in a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, don't forget. I cannot forget this. I'm shooting a

1:08:50.920 --> 1:08:53.839
<v Speaker 3>Netflix special September eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's the biggest news of it all.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know it's gonna be the bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, wait a minute, September eleventh. You haven't

1:09:03.200 --> 1:09:05.040
<v Speaker 1>shot it yet at.

1:09:04.960 --> 1:09:06.439
<v Speaker 3>The comedy store on Sunset.

1:09:07.400 --> 1:09:11.720
<v Speaker 1>That's home turf, So get the freak out. So now

1:09:11.760 --> 1:09:14.240
<v Speaker 1>that you're damn you came back swinging.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I'm trying.

1:09:15.560 --> 1:09:18.519
<v Speaker 1>I freaking now. Guys. Now I'm in debate. Should we

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<v Speaker 1>be dropping this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely eighteen Yeah, okay, we go, we go, we go

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<v Speaker 1>with you. But damn, that's great news. Oh ship high five,

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<v Speaker 1>happy for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know how long it took for us to get here, man,

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<v Speaker 3>you know the struggles and still smiling.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how did you pull the Netflix? Did they call you?

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<v Speaker 3>This is another crazy story. So I go in and

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<v Speaker 3>I go in the comedy store. I see Kanye. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>Kanye has been down with us a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Kanye West, that's what I thought you said. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a million times in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>You nick and not me. Unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Kanye, that's my man. So I seen Kanye

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<v Speaker 3>walking in and I'm like, oh, Shay, what's up. And

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<v Speaker 3>we start talking and I'm like, what's going on? And

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<v Speaker 3>then I see Dave and then he walks away. He

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh you next, and I'm like huh and

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<v Speaker 3>then he like walks out and all this ship is

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<v Speaker 3>happening in one time. And then next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on stage like tearing the ass up and.

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<v Speaker 1>At the comedy store.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I got the only I got another Standovation.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy. But I was the only one of that

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<v Speaker 3>night to get Atnovation, and I was like the last.

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<v Speaker 3>I think only two more people went after. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was like way at the end of the night. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was like, yeah, you're it so.

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<v Speaker 1>So, but where was how was Netflix? How did the Netflix?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it was a Netflix showcase.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a Netflix showcase.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah. Dave Chappelle had is doing like a Dave

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<v Speaker 3>Sappelle present.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it was like, how he did? I think he

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<v Speaker 1>did that with Earthquake.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right, But I think it's kind of more. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's like more like death jam what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, oh yeah, let's get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kanye was there.

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<v Speaker 3>And Kanye was right there and he was We took

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<v Speaker 3>a whole bunch of pictures and I got viral real fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, you know it's crazy. I think this time

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<v Speaker 1>around you you feel, well, obviously you've matured in your experience.

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<v Speaker 1>You've definitely taken it in and let it sit within you.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the second time around is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a truly beautiful experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, me too. But I'm gonna tell you why. It's

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<v Speaker 3>because I already did it for me. So it's like

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<v Speaker 3>I already have my fun. Yeah, so I have to

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<v Speaker 3>feed my children that I see every day, my beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>girls and my son and my wife, Like I'm doing

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<v Speaker 3>it for them. So the world is in trouble because

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<v Speaker 3>now I don't have to worry about what people think

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<v Speaker 3>about me, and I don't care about that no more.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just trying to get these checks.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you at all nervous about like the temptations

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<v Speaker 1>or anything, or what's your plan, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the temptations can be there, like you have a plan

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<v Speaker 1>for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so like in love with my family.

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<v Speaker 1>That I feel every time you say that, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean, I would probably just try to

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<v Speaker 3>talk my wife into doing it with with me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're hilarious, I mean, but you know I wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 1>it bout myself though. Yeah, but no, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>every time I talk to you, the way you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about your wife and your family, like I hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they saved me. They saved me because like even

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<v Speaker 3>in California, working in Hollywood, I only could find a

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<v Speaker 3>baby mama, that's it. And as soon as I went

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<v Speaker 3>away from Hollywood, I found my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, and he was met her in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I met in Vegas of all places.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout outs to your wife, Yeah what's up? Yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Shae Hayes, Well thank you so much for fixing me

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<v Speaker 1>the broke.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, for real, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the thing. Okay, I could eat this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, right, but when I'm interviewing you, it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like follow fast. There's no way, especially with this amount

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<v Speaker 1>of serving. But did I like it? Yes? Will my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter be eating it? I will personally take a picture

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<v Speaker 1>and say, look at my daughter because yeah, probably be

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow's day, I promise you, because sometimes I'm so desperate

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<v Speaker 1>for like what am I going to make it?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling and it's so simple, a little bit of salt.

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<v Speaker 1>I may the only thing I may do is maybe

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<v Speaker 1>boil some broccoli and put it in there. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>ground that, you know, I can surround it out.

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<v Speaker 3>I can see that.

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<v Speaker 1>But overall, as far as fast on the run, less

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<v Speaker 1>than twenty minute mom meal. Shit, if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>throw your kid out the door, this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is gonna hit and they're gonna be full too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, how can people keep up with you?

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<v Speaker 3>I prefer that they don't, But come on you back, okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Well official Spinky Hayes is my Instagram and Carlos Hayes

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<v Speaker 3>is my Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah cool, and I'll be checking in and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be giving you as many roses possible. I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>want to come out and support any opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, please do it, and I would love to come

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<v Speaker 3>back to this show anytime. Man. Shout out to Charlemagne,

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<v Speaker 3>to God. I just want to thank you Charlemagne for

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<v Speaker 3>making me dunky other day. Two times. You know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean? I got two times? Thank you, Charlemagne.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, hey, you know what, whether it's bad press

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<v Speaker 1>or good press, it's still press.

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<v Speaker 3>I just called it the Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown. They

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<v Speaker 3>talked about him bad and good. It didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter as long as they talking about you exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're back. I'm back and we're excited to give

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<v Speaker 1>you roses now.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys for listening. Peace out, Peace for more

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