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Speaker 1: You know when you come from Detroit, you know that

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Speaker 1: this guest has to be special to be on this show.

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Speaker 1: The official laugh fucked it up. Let's start all over again.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have special

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Speaker 1: guest actor, comedian all the way from Detroit. Spanky Hayes

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Speaker 1: is in the building. Yes, ma'am, and I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: about this moment because this is full circle. We go

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Speaker 1: way back, way back, you know, way back. I was

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Speaker 1: fresh from New York when I knew you.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was still rocking a lot of times, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of tens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we go way back, yeah too, way back. And

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Speaker 1: that's good for this episode because I know where to

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Speaker 1: dig and search for all the crumbs. But speaking of crumbs, Spanky,

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Speaker 1: we gotta know what you was eating while you were broke.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this is pretty simple. You have rice right here,

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Speaker 3: and you have tuna. You got butter, and then you

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Speaker 1: So when we went back and forth on you know

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Speaker 1: what is Spanky gonna eat? And Spanky said tuna and rice,

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Speaker 1: and I was like huh like, And so even before

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Speaker 1: you got here, it was like, I would have loved

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Speaker 1: to like prepared for you, but I was like, there

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Speaker 1: has to be missing ingredients, because surely it can't be

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Speaker 1: tuna rice. And this is how desperate I was. Usually

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Speaker 1: I buy the tuna in water, but because you said

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Speaker 1: tuna and rice, I said, well, maybe he needs some

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Speaker 1: soft tuna so that the tuna in oil.

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Speaker 3: That's how that's not bad.

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Speaker 4: That's because I was like, surely there's missing ingredients.

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Speaker 1: But this is a true classic broke dish that has

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Speaker 1: never been done on this show. We have to search

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Speaker 1: hard for it. So I'm super excited because that means

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Speaker 1: the broker the dish, as you guys know, the better

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Speaker 1: the stories.

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Speaker 3: There we go, there we go.

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Speaker 1: So seeing that you didn't have to cook it, let's

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Speaker 1: watch you prep this dish and walk us through it.

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Speaker 1: Because most of our audience is listening, not.

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Speaker 3: Watching, okay, So for the listeners that should be watching,

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Speaker 3: I would just take some rice right here. Then I

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Speaker 3: would like, let's take some button.

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Speaker 1: And hot though yeah I think it's like.

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Speaker 3: Warm ish, Yes, it's melting a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so you put butter in the rice. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: like tastes buttery. Yeah, trust me, I'm a butter fan.

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Speaker 1: I like every dish.

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Speaker 4: I tell people I go through like a stick of

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Speaker 4: butter probably every.

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Speaker 1: Three dishes I make. That's how much butter I go through.

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Speaker 3: I'll take a whole stick of butter in fire steak.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I feel like I would want to eat that steak.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Really Okay, what seasonings do you put though?

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Speaker 3: Just like Lauri season salt. Lauri's again some kind of

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Speaker 1: So, guys, I'm watching him mash the butter into the

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Speaker 1: rice and it's going down. Okay. You know, I had

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Speaker 1: someone on the show I think they did like eggs running,

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Speaker 1: eggs and rice, and it was actually, you're pretty good.

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Speaker 3: So I could see that running.

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Speaker 1: See that you your eggs running.

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Speaker 3: I like, I like all kinds of eggs. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: I can see that, like if you got like salmon

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Speaker 1: So is this a dish that you would eat on

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Speaker 1: when you broke?

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Speaker 3: I used to eat this when I was totally broke.

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Speaker 3: I could only thing. I would have to have somebody

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Speaker 3: steal tula. You know what I'm saying out of the supermarket.

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Speaker 1: Did you say steal?

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Speaker 1: Well the cool thing about you know today's episode. I

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Speaker 1: am an avid sponsor of the minute rice you put

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Speaker 1: in a microwave a minute in thirty seconds, some of

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Speaker 3: So, I was gonna ask you how many times have

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Speaker 1: There are a couple of dishes that I definitely will

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Speaker 1: never eat again. And that was the tuna casserole shout

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Speaker 1: outs to Uplift the Marketplace. I actually hated that dish.

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Speaker 1: And then uh, the pickled egg by Miss Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Those are the only two dishes that like, I'll never

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Speaker 3: So now, if you like hot sauce, no, you don't

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Speaker 1: Little assault, okay, just a little, but the bowl the

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Speaker 3: Okay, you wanted them healthy.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I just I'm just not from Cali

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Speaker 1: and I can't do that. Can I take this one?

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Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah? Okay, so you said so that's oh so I.

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Speaker 1: Just okay, that's it. That's it, because you don't want

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Speaker 4: Hot sauce and it was too much. So I'm guessing

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Speaker 4: we're just gonna mix it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just you just get in there and do it.

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Speaker 1: I thought for sure you were forgetting like mayo or.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, tell me what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Surprisingly, No, I'm gonna break this because this dish costs

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Speaker 1: like three dollars and you can. You could literally make

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Speaker 1: a couple of them because I did two cans of tuna,

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Speaker 3: You could put lemon, you could put let me tell you.

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Speaker 1: This can definitely hit and I I could see like

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Speaker 1: But if you're broke, for sure, for sure, this dish

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Speaker 3: You don't work out right after this, I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: I feel bad for my child because if I'm ever desperate,

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Speaker 1: I feel like my daughter would really love this. You're

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Speaker 3: I've been doing this.

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Speaker 1: Does this pre eat well too?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I never tried to cook it.

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Speaker 1: I just always let me tell you perfect dish.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. See you were scared.

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Speaker 1: I was definitely scared because I was like, this is

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Speaker 1: You've been sold by the way I'm eating it.

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Speaker 3: It's good, guys, sell.

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Speaker 1: Good, so I can get you to spell all the

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Speaker 3: Come on, I'm ready. I red tea.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's a great dish than you like.

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Speaker 1: If I'm ever struggling, that's going to be my go to.

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Speaker 1: And guys, it's better than ramen. If you've been eating

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Speaker 3: And then my family, my dad's side of the family

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Speaker 3: it from, you know what I'm saying. But they would

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Speaker 3: do it like spam, but I don't like.

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Speaker 1: I hate Oh I tried spam on this show. That's

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Speaker 1: another thing. I'll never do spam. Thank you for reminding me.

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Speaker 1: I hate space. So those are my three will never

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Speaker 1: It's so salty, right, So I tried it with that.

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Speaker 1: You don't be great with this, Like if you do

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Speaker 3: Maybe and an egg that might be good too.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, you're inspiring me.

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Speaker 3: So there we go. That's what we're here.

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Speaker 1: So take us back to what was going on during

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Speaker 3: Okay, I find myself still there sometimes.

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Speaker 3: You know, out right right, I would say, so.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we do this since this dish is a

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Speaker 1: what was going on.

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Speaker 3: Detroit is a great place to be from, but it's

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Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you this. I went to Detroit and

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what to think. It was like there

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Speaker 3: This and it's a whole city like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised when I go down to Detroit that people

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Speaker 1: have so much respect for people because it's like, man, bro,

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Because well it's so violent there and it's so

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Speaker 3: like you gotta like sell down on how far I

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Speaker 3: and you gotta like do weird shit. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: like from sixteen yeah yeah, So you're doing some crazy

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Speaker 3: So you grow up like really fast, like so extremely fast.

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Speaker 1: You're growing up fast in Detroit. At what age do

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Speaker 1: So comedy scene in LA is notorious for not paying comics.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 3: I was you know, I was extremely lucky. When I

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Speaker 3: and I did a Fat Tuesday. My cousin. Damn, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what's so funny. That's right, my funny. Keith

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Speaker 3: And he was like, I'm taking you to the comedy store.

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Speaker 3: Well, they pay like seventy five dollars if you pay record,

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Speaker 3: If I was skilled, you could do it cracking junks forever.

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Speaker 3: Everybody was jealous of me, like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was your first night. Yes, sh okay,

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Speaker 3: because I left there and went to Molitia. That's where

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Speaker 3: Like I met a lot of fans. I met Kobe

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you made did you make?

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Speaker 1: Because this industry is also I feel like this industry

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Speaker 3: Cards, everybody numbers changed.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yo, we literally were in the trenches together

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Speaker 1: So it's like, if the contracts don't merge together, then

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Speaker 3: like that, a little like that Brandy. She always speaks

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Speaker 3: I was a pallbearer for Lamon Bentley. That was like

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Speaker 3: Couldn't leave you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because the two first three rings they say that

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00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 3: he wouldn't have him without shot, so that's.

440
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: The one major Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

441
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 3: And then he got rid of shock. Yeah, and then

442
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 3: he got called into that case and there was that

443
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: case card. It was kind of over. Yeah, they really

444
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: now they didn't have to like him like Kobe. Yeah, yeah,

445
00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: that was crazy.

446
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: But it's crazy because like you know, after it's passing,

447
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: it's like you can't go nowhere in La without seeing

448
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: a Kobe. But that's how LA is for everyone that

449
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: doesn't live in La, that's how LA is.

450
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: Hey, they only like you when you die.

451
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't like you. They don't like you. They

452
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: don't like you. After you die, they tell.

453
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 3: You how great you are.

454
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: You can't hear that freaking sucks.

455
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 3: That sucks. But that's all it.

456
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: So, so after you're doing your comedy thing, you're struggling

457
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: to to at least make money, but you're making connects

458
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: and your waves in the industry. Okay, at what point

459
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: in the industry do you feel like you got Okay,

460
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm really onto something.

461
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 3: When they let me do comic view out here like everything. Okay,

462
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 3: So a lot of things were going on when I

463
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 3: lived in New York in Detroit, but I didn't get

464
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: none of those TV shows until I moved to LA

465
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: So it was like, so to me, it was the

466
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 3: best thing I could have ever did, But none of

467
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 3: those checks were like life changing. It was just like

468
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: for the moment I could pay my rent. You know,

469
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 3: I can get caught up all three months, so let

470
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 3: me pay one and a half. But they were all

471
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: like little things to get you, to make sure your

472
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: confidence don't get shattered.

473
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's all it is. It was like enough

474
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: to keep you on the path, but not fully quick.

475
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 3: Exactly like, you know, to keep you interested.

476
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel like there was a part. I

477
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: mean obviously, well you and I go back to the

478
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: nick days. But I talked to you about this all

479
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: the time. I was very young. I was like twenty

480
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: two to however old. But I remember seeing grown on

481
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: like struggling.

482
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

483
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: Like, and I'm a young person. I'm like, if y'all.

484
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 2: Struggling, like right right, future?

485
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like shit, and you know, I'm in

486
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: my I'm starting getting my late twenties. I'm like, shit,

487
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: I may have to book it soon because this ain't

488
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: looking too promising if the forty and fifty year olds

489
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: are in the closets, I mean literally speaking in the

490
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: closets and yeah, And that was like for me, it

491
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: was like, yo, what are you in it for? And

492
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: I started to come to the thing that like maybe

493
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: some guys were in it for girls or status, but

494
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: it definitely wasn't about money. And that's what I kind

495
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: of started to learn about the industry, and I kind

496
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: of was like, well, this this seems like more of

497
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: a pimp game than it is.

498
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: You know, it's the biggest form of the pimp game.

499
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: And then it's more like for a comedian in LA

500
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 3: like the stage time is the money. It's not like

501
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: the money. You never see money like you like never

502
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 3: see it. Get a job, yeah yeah, until then you

503
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: have to go do extra work. You gotta go to

504
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: the piece. And then now you think you're kind of

505
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 3: famous because once you get popular, so you don't want

506
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: a job.

507
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: You don't want a real and that is the dilemma

508
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 1: that I'm so confused about, Like would you ever want

509
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: to get a real job after everything you've accomplished.

510
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: I tried. I tried because I retired for eight years.

511
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that.

512
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: So when I first like retired like three months later,

513
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 3: it was like, Okay, where's the money coming from? I

514
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 3: ain't going on stage, so I don't want to go

515
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 3: on the road, I don't want to I don't want

516
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: to read the script, I don't want to do none

517
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: of that. So where's the money coming? So I kind

518
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: of look for odd jobs and get construction for a second,

519
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: and then I like start growing.

520
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: With eat, you know, but before you got to the

521
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: step away point, because I want to get there with you.

522
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: And I think that is probably one of the parts

523
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: that I'm most intrigued about because I think a lot

524
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: of people, at least I don't know people from our

525
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: circle have been like this, I'm not doing it anymore

526
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: besides you and me, because I took a ten year

527
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: I think I took a ten year leave before I

528
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: came back to eating while broke and I was like, oh,

529
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: ship just off the roller decks. Oh yeah, I took

530
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: a ten year leave.

531
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 3: That's why you look so good? No, for real, Yeah,

532
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: because you know, there's this city will beat you up.

533
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: It will beat you up. But I was definitely I

534
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: took a tenure leave. But it was mainly because you know,

535
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: I saw people struggling for so many years, and it

536
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: was men that It wasn't women, it was men with families.

537
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: And I think that to me was just every day

538
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: going into the office and seeing that I was like,

539
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: you know.

540
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: What, people arguing and having the worst attitudes. It was bad, man,

541
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: It was bad. It was bad. But yeah, and at

542
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: that time, I was just making kids. I wasn't trying

543
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: to be no family. I was just.

544
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: You were you were a kid, for you, for you,

545
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: and you get pregnant.

546
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah it was beautiful, beautiful.

547
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: Are you how many kids you got? I got five again, Okay,

548
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: well you're not nowhere near his nixt level of he

549
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: went down fast in a year, so wow. But I

550
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: have theories about that.

551
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: I do too.

552
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: I have theories because he was such a squeaky clean

553
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: person when we knew him, like no drinking, no alcohol,

554
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: no tattoos. I mean, of course he got the Mariah tattoos.

555
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: He smokes weed.

556
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, he smokes me. I heard he may drink

557
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: a little.

558
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 3: Wow.

559
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, maybe I'm be lying. I don't know.

560
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

561
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 3: If you can have twenty kids in a month.

562
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, you have to drink. I have a theory.

563
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: We'll get to it. But I have a theory that

564
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: I think happened because if you knew you know, obviously,

565
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: the way we saw him, he was very squeaky clean. Yeah,

566
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: so as far as that side of life.

567
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: Right, But he was hitting everybody he was.

568
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was always a whore. But you gotta think

569
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: when we were around him the most, he was married

570
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: to Mariah, So during that phase we didn't.

571
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: See that well. I knew him like or he even got.

572
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: Anything that I knew him before, and he was he

573
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: got to I remember there was a point where he

574
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: was doing like a g T was married to Mariah,

575
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: and there was like a hall because I think he

576
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: smashed so many people. And I think he had to

577
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: be on set with the Pussycat doll girl and he

578
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: smashed her too. You know what I'm saying. It was like,

579
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: what lady has he not smashed?

580
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: I heard that he was on a date with the

581
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 3: pussycat girl and saw Mariah was like, here he had

582
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: some cat money. It was in New York. Here's some

583
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: cat money. I do something.

584
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. I didn't know that story, but I've always

585
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: known that he was a woman's like. I don't. I

586
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of women ship. There was points

587
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: where I don't want to get I remember there was

588
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: a point when I think Caleb got a couple of

589
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: calls because some of the chicks would show up to

590
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: the studio. I swear to god, they would be wearing

591
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: a paper thin dress and nothing under it.

592
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: They was there trying to get on the show.

593
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: They was trying to do something, trying to get a show.

594
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: Shout out to Nick, though, shout out to Nick. So

595
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: take me back. So you're you're you're riding the wave,

596
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: You're starting to build up momentum. I think you came

597
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: out here in the nineties.

598
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: You said I came out here in ninety six. Okay,

599
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: So so back to Nick Cannon. So then that's when

600
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: I meet Nick. So we're still young, like okay, so

601
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: I was like almost old enough to get in the

602
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: club and he was like not old enough at all.

603
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: So we would they would make us go to like

604
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: the kitchen, stay away from the like alcohol, can be

605
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: around alcohol. So it's like, so that's how we came

606
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: We like got cool, came up, you know, like bond

607
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 3: like that. So it's like, yeah, well if you get on,

608
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get on. If you get on that we

609
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: did that them near blood Sacrifice then yeah. So it's like,

610
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: so that's how we were still friends in those times

611
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: when I met you, because they started from the beginning.

612
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: And yeah, and so when I met Nick, we were

613
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: both trying to like do something. He was trying to

614
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 3: I was like, no, don't do extra work. You don't

615
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: need to do that, Like, dude, you're gonna be something

616
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: like trust me.

617
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: It was this now prior to drumline.

618
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: Huh, this is before drumping. Yeah, ok, yeah, this is

619
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: before he didn't have anything. Yeah, he was just like

620
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: going to Soul trained and then if if they don't you.

621
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: Know how I used to do soul training. Oh man,

622
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: the Soul trained hustle.

623
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: Was real, right, So if you know, if they didn't

624
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: pick you, then you know you have some So if

625
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: he didn't get picked, he would come to my house.

626
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I'm saying. So I didn't even

627
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: know he did that hustle. Okay, I think everybody had

628
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: to do the soul train hustle when first.

629
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: I did it. At first, I just never got picked.

630
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: Well, it's easier for the girls because the girls always

631
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: got you always had a place train. Ironically, when I

632
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: did Celebrity High, Soul Trained was the first person I

633
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: pitched a partner up because they would have all that

634
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: talent shoot over like two days, and I'd be like, yo,

635
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: do the talent for my mag But I was so young.

636
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: They were like kid. Get They were like, yes, it's cute,

637
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: but just when the camera hit take your butt.

638
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: We don't care about anything else.

639
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: Was over there kissing every person. He could see. That's

640
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: what does human They can't I definitely received the kiss

641
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: from Shamar at one point in my life and it

642
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: was like, dude's weird.

643
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wouldn't be interested, No, no, sorry guy.

644
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: Luckily, luckily, I think he settled down. Well hopefully he has.

645
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: If not, I mean the looks I guess on him,

646
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: they definitely have a very you.

647
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, it's crazy. So look, So so I start

648
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 3: are kind of coaching Nick on how to do comedy.

649
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: You wanted to do comedy. His first manager name was

650
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: Sam and he was from Detroit to ear. Yeah, so

651
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: that's how I met Nick to his first manager. So

652
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 3: but anyway, lost so.

653
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Short we and he wasn't writing for Nickelodeon at the time. No,

654
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't doing an okay okay, so you catch him

655
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: right out. So that's why you guys were so close.

656
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, and then eventually he started getting gigs and

657
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: I would ride with him, just be with him. You know,

658
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: that's my brother, so you know. And then from that

659
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: went to me doing more stand up. And then I

660
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: had a group called the Other Level. When we came

661
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: out here, three of us all from Detroit, and we

662
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: were doing like wild'n out on stage. That was like

663
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: the beginning of wile. So then Nick got a deal.

664
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 4: And hire me Okay, So now were you did you

665
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 4: know Nile at the time too, Well, you guys met

666
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 4: me now later.

667
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: Muchs later for me, I don't know. I don't even

668
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 3: know how long Nick knew now, but I met now

669
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: like when we started production. Yeah, but you know, now

670
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: I's been there from day one two. He was the

671
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: first head writer and now he's the CEO. About that

672
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: he's had what crazy?

673
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

674
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: I know he was. I'm not sure about today, but

675
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: wall'm out he's like the head guy waking out him

676
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: and uh Goldman, Yeah, yeah, crazy.

677
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: I know that.

678
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: You know he came up.

679
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: He came up, okay, yeah, because he was on here

680
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: and he did share that when Nick got his record deal.

681
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: You know, he was like the road manager for Yeah.

682
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, now's been down forever.

683
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

684
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 3: So so like me and Nick kind of okay, so

685
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: before he became Nick Cannon and then when he became

686
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 3: Nick Cannon, I saw him again and he was like, yo,

687
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: where you've been here? You need some money? Great? He

688
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I want to give your job, man,

689
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: come on just to hang with me. And so but

690
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: I was on the road a lot at that time,

691
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: so I was seeing when I seen him, but then

692
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 3: when he got walling out, it was history.

693
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: That was it, you know.

694
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: But you know, my other three partners were kind of

695
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: mad about that because they felt like they should have

696
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 3: been on the show. It never worried, okay, yeah, so

697
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: that made it look like he kind of stole the show.

698
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean?

699
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: So, oh yeah, yeah, and Nick knew everybody. He knew

700
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: all of us. We were called the Other Level. You

701
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: can google it. We had we had deals with Will

702
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 3: Smith connects to Nick again.

703
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 1: So you guys were doing the improv show and.

704
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 3: Then right we would like do skids, we do improv,

705
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: and then we would rap and then we would sing

706
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: a song.

707
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: So don't that song like that is exactly like thank you.

708
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: So then he recruited.

709
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 3: You, right because I was the leader of the group

710
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 3: and his friend.

711
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, of course. And then so he ends up

712
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: getting a show deal. He puts you on the show

713
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: of course your friends. So you're like, whatever, no need to.

714
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 3: Well I had to take care of him for a while.

715
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: Who the three other guys.

716
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 3: Because we were all in la starting. Yeah, and now

717
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: our show has been done, our show is happening, and

718
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: I'm the only one on it, so I had to kind.

719
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: Of yeah, yeah, to keep the peace.

720
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 3: And their family too, So you know I would have

721
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: did it.

722
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: Do you think Nick felt some type of way about

723
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: it or well, he wasn't friends with them, so he.

724
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: Was friends with him. But I think Nick tried to

725
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 3: just forget that. Yeah, like it's already moving, The train

726
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: is already moving, so you know, let's not forget what

727
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: we left behind. Let's just keep going forward. Yeah, you know,

728
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: that's yeah, but you know what I'm saying. So, but

729
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: you know, and it's not the down Nick or not.

730
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you history, you know, like, and if

731
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 3: you ask him, if he don't say something close to this,

732
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: he's lying yeah.

733
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well either way, it's but you can see as

734
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Yeah, I mean the way you say it.

735
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I only can say how it happened.

736
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: So then all right, So then the show gets picked up.

737
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: You're on the show, your popularity and your money starts

738
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: to rise.

739
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: Right. Well, first, first, here's another reason why I know

740
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 3: that they knew they got the show for me. I

741
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 3: was the first one to get fired before the show

742
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: even aired, before we could take one episode. They fired me.

743
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: Why because they said I was too in charge. They

744
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: said I knew I would come out more. You know

745
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: how everybody got yeah, well, well he's taking charge of

746
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: everything because it was my show.

747
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were yeah so and it's your show.

748
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: You have an opinion, more input, and you're more passionate

749
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: about it.

750
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: Right, but anything, if anything, I was trying to like

751
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 3: show them like, no, man, don't waste your time doing

752
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: it this way. Let's do it this way and then

753
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: it'll be faster, be funnier.

754
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: So they fired you, But how'd you get back?

755
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: Because I decided that they're not about to do my

756
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: show without me. So I went back to the studio

757
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: and Chris Spencer. Chris Spencer, uh, he seen me in

758
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: the lobby and was like, why haven't you been here?

759
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: And I was like, they fired me. It was like what.

760
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: So he got nick and nick was like, man, you're

761
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 3: not fired.

762
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: Okay, Well come on man, suit up, okay, okay, So

763
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 4: I remember.

764
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: So that was around two thousand and five. Nicko was

765
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: very young man. He wasn't the man he is today.

766
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: Because I'm sorry, I have to add badges. By the way,

767
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: we recently got married.

768
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: Shout out, shout out, to mac Man.

769
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: Congratulations. Yeah, I'm up to Mac probably a couple of years,

770
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: going downtown LA randomly one night, but shout out to Mac.

771
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: He was there, there, he was there. I think he

772
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: exited maybe five years ago or six years ago, maybe

773
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: somewhere around there. But back then, I don't think Nick

774
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: had the power to really fire. Like nowadays, if you

775
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: get fired, you'd be like, no, Nick pulled that trigger. Yeah,

776
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: he may follow in your face, but he pulled that trigger. Yeah,

777
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: definitely pulled it around.

778
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

779
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: And even if you're questioning it, nah, I don't question it.

780
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: Don't question it. All you got to do is think

781
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 3: about it. I know I know you here, well, you

782
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 3: were there, so I know you hear me. So if

783
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: you ever thought about why is this little guy so angry?

784
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 3: That's what I used to be mad about. Yeah, yeah,

785
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 3: like these niggas took the ship right in front of me.

786
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So you get brought back in, so you're taping.

787
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: You're one of the originals. Okay, So your career starts

788
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: to take all take you off even more. I'm sure

789
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: your rate for comedy goes up right definitely, And now

790
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: you're making art.

791
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: Would you say real I would say, oh, the wild

792
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: texts stupid. We were those first like eight seasons, well okay,

793
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 3: all of the seasons until he got married, and then

794
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: we broke off for like four years we didn't do

795
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: a show, so that was and then when we came

796
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: back that was the MTV two. So all of the

797
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: original MTV shows we were getting one knee.

798
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: Okay, And were you blowing it or were you budgeting it?

799
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: I was. I had like two or three families at

800
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: the time, so I was like, you know, I stayed broke. Yeah,

801
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because you know, I got

802
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 3: a couple of baby mamas and possible and you know, posible.

803
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, oh, possible because there was one baby

804
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 3: that I wasn't sure it was mine, but I still

805
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: kind of liked the girl, so I was and then

806
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: it wasn't mine. So you know, stuff like that. A

807
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: lot of girls said they have babies by me, but

808
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: they won't take the test for some reason.

809
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: Well that's yeah, well you can't take the testing.

810
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: You can't take the testing.

811
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no child sport for you? Yeah, so are you

812
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: on child sport?

813
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: I paid child sport for my son Carlos, who's the

814
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 3: Japanese guy with the Mexican name, how about that?

815
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, yeah, so you gotta okay.

816
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: He's what sixteen now, so I won't be for a wow.

817
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: But the rest of them, they didn't put you on.

818
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: No, they they always had LLCs and companies, so I

819
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: will have my money to Okay. Should I say that.

820
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: I should not say that that none of these women

821
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: listen to the show.

822
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: I I'll just trying to.

823
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, but like, I'm pretty

824
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: sure there's some dude listening out there.

825
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: Like she said, well, well, Bob, been trying to put

826
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: your child sport forever. Why can't she do it? I

827
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: was like, because I hired my money in companies, Like

828
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: you're gonna show me how to do that?

829
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: I was like, sure, that's so funny, that is hilarious.

830
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure there is a guy somewhere out there like checkmate.

831
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, get LLC and get a business account, and

832
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: you get a business account then you.

833
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, said but don't do it to avoid oh

834
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: no no, but definitely do it to even protect yourselfe

835
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: how to protect yourself. I tell people all the time,

836
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: if you're even a creator, no check should ever be

837
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: written directly to you, no ever.

838
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: And you know that's the biggest mistake in black Hollywood.

839
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah I can see that.

840
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you got it. And it's so bad it

841
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: don't matter.

842
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: Just write me to check, write me to check.

843
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: I signed it right here.

844
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you get And the crazy thing is like

845
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: the other thing. Every time you fill out of W

846
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: nine and someone's paying you, guys, and it's two hundreds,

847
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how much it is. Think about it.

848
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: You're signing W nine, you're going to get tax tax

849
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: and if you're getting that check written directly to your

850
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay double the tax than you would as

851
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: a corporation.

852
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: I swear to God. So you got to get incorporated.

853
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: Man, immediately. Immediately make sure those checks are not written

854
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: to you. I don't care if you got to tell

855
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 1: them delayed payment.

856
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 4: Do not get that check written to I can't tell

857
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 4: you how many times I've talked this lesson and.

858
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: Take it.

859
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: Katie and Jared OUTNN told y'all to get a corporation.

860
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: Shout outs to y'all corporation. I preach it all day

861
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: to be like you know what, this year will be

862
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: the year, and they never do it. The day after

863
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: the day I send them money to corporation will be

864
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: the proudest day of my life. But right now they're

865
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: going to pay double the tax.

866
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: Gotta get that.

867
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: They gotta get that.

868
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: So that's what I've been doing for years, and it

869
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 3: worked for me. I can't say that I made that

870
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: much money to hide, but yeah, I was starving. You

871
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: know how this shit go so so cool?

872
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: You were breaking off these other guys, your careers taking off, Uh,

873
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: your careers, taking off. Everything's going on.

874
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 3: I'm on TV every day.

875
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: Now, do you start to pick up vices?

876
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: What do you mean, like cocaine and something? Yeah, something

877
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: I used to It was like, okay, here's the thing

878
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: about me and drugs. I like I like drugs.

879
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: Can I say that you can always say that I

880
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: love drugs.

881
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: I love them. I mean mushrooms. I'll still take them.

882
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: I think I'm still probably high right now. Mushrooms. Cocaine.

883
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: I can't do as much because a lot of people

884
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: died off cocaine. But it was a point where I

885
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 3: used to like it, not cook it or nothing. Yeah, whatever, pills.

886
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: I went through a pill phase, but it wasn't fun.

887
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: I like cocaine okay, but but I don't like it now.

888
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: I can't do it now, Oh you don't. So what

889
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: to many people die?

890
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: Did you know people that died?

891
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Teddy b what comedians? Comedians? I don't want to

892
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: name any names. I don't want to slander anybody. I

893
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: think this is what I personally think. I think cocaine

894
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: mixed with the shock.

895
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: You yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's all I think. Well, okay,

896
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: so the reason why I brought that up is because

897
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, the double works and ministerious ways,

898
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: whether it's girls, drugs or whatever. And I had to

899
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: bring that up because, like I said, there was a

900
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: point where I knew men in the industry that were broke,

901
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: and I started to get to this point where it's like,

902
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: if you're broke, then there's gotta be another vice that

903
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 1: you're getting some level of achievement from the standard game. Yeah,

904
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean being around n Yeah, being around Nick, it

905
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: was definitely you hang with Nick, you're gonna get free

906
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: Hanging around Nick, you're gonna get free status. But you know,

907
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: even with that, you had to still be smart enough

908
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: to figure out how to make.

909
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: Money because that was like before clout. So it wasn't

910
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: like we were getting Instagram fans. Yeah, it was just

911
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: more we had to learn how to make money from it.

912
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: That was very hard. It's very hard to make money

913
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 3: off the cloud. Yeah. Yeah, and you know and someone

914
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 3: else like.

915
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: You, so you could pull it off.

916
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: But it just depends on the level of life and

917
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 3: thinking you are.

918
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: Because but there were guys working for free for years,

919
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: and I felt like they must have been doing it

920
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: for clout because there was no When I say, I

921
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: was like, it doesn't even make logical sense.

922
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: People were sleeping in the car.

923
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: It was scariest to me. There's nothing more scary than

924
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: seeing like older people broke around you. You'd be like,

925
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: is this my best thing? Like coming from New York,

926
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: you see homeless people and be like my parents would

927
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: be like that person tried a cigarette. You'd be like, well,

928
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: I've never tried a cigarette.

929
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: Being in the game and seeing like a bunch of

930
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 4: broke people around the one rich person, it's like, Okay,

931
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 4: something's not adding up right.

932
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 3: And then here's this too, like to be the only

933
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: person with a sandwich and it's all these hungry motherfuckers

934
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 3: around you, Like why didn't we kill Like it's like

935
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 3: a little rulee, like, don't kill the person with the soundwich,

936
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 3: gonna give you a piece, don't worry. Just have faith.

937
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: Stories about people begging the person with a sandwich.

938
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: They'll do it.

939
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: The response wasn't really nice. Oh my god, it was terrible.

940
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: Man, being in Hollywood for all this time, all these years.

941
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 3: When I retired, the first thing people I'll notice people

942
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: will say to me it was like, man, you are

943
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 3: so stern. Man, you are so mean, Like because I

944
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: was so used to hearing no all the time that

945
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 3: I had like got immune to it, like no, that

946
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: ain't ship like whatever, No, I'm waiting for the yes.

947
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: But so people aren't used to that. I mean, but

948
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: we don't know that because we like in this life. Yeah,

949
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: but we don't get like the other side of life

950
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 3: until we go over there and it's like what like

951
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: people here know and cry and go to the hospital

952
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 3: have a heart attack seizure.

953
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yes, another notework, one step closed, Let's

954
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: get thirty more.

955
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 3: Right, Like go on right, I'm telling you like know

956
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: to me is like I don't know. Maybe.

957
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: So you're enjoying your ride and you're doing well. You

958
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: have a couple of little families, but at some point

959
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: you decide I'm punching out at that point.

960
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: The point, well, one of them was. I went to

961
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 3: this audition and it was an ice Cube movie. It

962
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 3: was called Lottery Ticket in the in the breakdown, it

963
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: had for one of the characters of Spanky Hayes type.

964
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, shit, that's me. Everyone's calling me, every

965
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 3: agency calling me. It's all about this one movie. So

966
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: I go there. I read for about twenty times, literally

967
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: in front of ice Cube, in front of O'sha's son,

968
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: in front of his other son, in front of his wife,

969
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: in front of this producer, front of that producer. I'm

970
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 3: going to Detroit and see ice Cube and two of

971
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: his sons on the same plane as me. I'm looking

972
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 3: at him like, uh hello, I'm already on TVA day, man,

973
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: come on, so make a loss short. One day I

974
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: went and read and the lady said, you didn't read

975
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: it like you would normally read it. I was like, well,

976
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 3: I did this like thirty times, Like how many times

977
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 3: do you want me to read it? I was like,

978
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: and it says in the breakdowns a Spanky Hayes type.

979
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: She said, we don't really want Spanky Hayes. So I

980
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: was like, huh. So I was like, so you rather

981
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: have a spanky Hayes type than real?

982
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah?

983
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: So they wanted like some kind of stereotypical version of you.

984
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I just kind of kicked all the computers

985
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: down in the room and knocked all the ship down.

986
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: And it's kind of you. I was just you were

987
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: just pissed.

988
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 3: I've never heard a person say we want someone just.

989
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: Like you but not not.

990
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like what that was crazy?

991
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: So you lost it, totally lost it, and.

992
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 3: I didn't verified. I'm pretty sure you was. I probably

993
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 3: was blackballed after that, but I didn't. I didn't feel

994
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: better about that until I watched Straight Out of Comptent

995
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 3: and saw ice Cube.

996
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, My favorite scene in Straight

997
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: Out of Compton was the scene when he took a

998
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: bat to everything. And it was mainly because when we

999
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: had the celebrity high days, I had all these sponsors

1000
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: and they would take forever to pay. There were some

1001
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: months where I'd be like, Nick, I hate to come

1002
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: to you, but man, I can't afford my wrenck this month.

1003
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: Like I got money old, I just don't know when

1004
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: it's coming. And I was always in that position of like,

1005
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: I want to go up to this person's office be like,

1006
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: motherfucking you kill my company, give me my money. So

1007
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: that was like literally my favorite scene. But yes, okay,

1008
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: so you saw that scene and then.

1009
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: I thought better. I was like, ok but do you think.

1010
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: That was a real, real thing that happened.

1011
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 3: Well, it happened to me, So I can see how.

1012
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: When you decided okay, I'm checking out or slash, you

1013
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: may have gotten blackballed.

1014
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 3: I was thinking maybe, uh, but.

1015
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: See see did you try to apologize afterwards?

1016
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 3: No? I never reached back out to him. The only

1017
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: reason why I even wanted to watch the film is

1018
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 3: to see who they picked instead of me.

1019
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: Okay, and who did they pick.

1020
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 3: I don't even know the guy, but he's the guy.

1021
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: Remember he was like the d BO guy, the guy

1022
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: who kept taking ticket.

1023
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was reading for that part okay, okay.

1024
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: And they kept saying, well, you're too funny and what

1025
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 3: this is a comedy.

1026
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: That's crazy? It was, and I could see that being

1027
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: like a trigger, like you want someone like me but

1028
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: not me.

1029
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I'm about to break all this ship in.

1030
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 3: So it's like I wish.

1031
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: I could have been a fly on the wall to

1032
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: see that.

1033
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 3: You know who was there? Okay, So remember in Destiny's

1034
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: Child it was it was first of all, it was

1035
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: four different ones. Was it was it was Kelly, it

1036
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: was Beyonce, and it was two other ones shorter, one

1037
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: else and then the other one who became actress LaToya.

1038
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 3: She was okay. So when I walked out the door,

1039
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: she was sitting right for real. I said, oh, I

1040
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: like your ship man. She was like whoa. She looked

1041
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 3: at me like, wow, you're a trip like so yeah.

1042
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 3: So at that point I was mad about that then,

1043
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: so I was like, I don't want to really do

1044
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 3: this no more. So then I went on the road

1045
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: a couple of times and I didn't really feel it,

1046
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 3: so I didn't really do it as good as I

1047
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: normally do. So I started, so it start kind of

1048
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 3: you know, and then Nick Cannon brought it while a'n

1049
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 3: now back, so I went that's when it was in

1050
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 3: New York and the checks were less than half of

1051
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 3: what they used. So I was like, so all of

1052
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: these signs, it's like, man, put this shit, man do

1053
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 3: something else. Like I was already famous. I already been

1054
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: famous for years. It was kind of my turn to

1055
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: kind of break off from them anyway and do my

1056
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 3: own thing. I just didn't really know and they weren't

1057
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 3: really giving like jobs at that time a lot, so boom.

1058
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 3: So I got a podcast right after that. I was

1059
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 3: one of the kind of like the first people to

1060
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 3: get a podcast. It was called The Spanky Hag Show.

1061
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 3: And one day I had asked, well, we were all

1062
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: asking each other questions because I kept it open, and

1063
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 3: somebody asked me, who do you think is gay in Hollywood?

1064
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 3: And I was like, I threw the question back, who

1065
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: you think is So it was my turn again and

1066
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: I just said okay. And if you didn't know this

1067
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 3: did like me and him were like beefed out.

1068
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 4: I did not know likeous, So you don't remember when

1069
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 4: did the video with the cold on?

1070
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 3: He was like yeah, that was about me. Oh my goodness,

1071
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: because I said he was gay and then he heard

1072
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: that I said that, and he did a video and

1073
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: then I did another video and.

1074
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: Was hilarious, Yeah that's hilarious. Yeah, that's really funny.

1075
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 3: So that kind of solidified the black ball with black people,

1076
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: because first of all, I'm making trouble and now calling

1077
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: people gay. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1078
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: So they But luckily it was long before the you

1079
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: know the.

1080
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: Right now right, No, it wasn't right now, I think,

1081
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 3: But I think I kind of started the short.

1082
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: Don't tell me you're the creator.

1083
00:54:59,040 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 3: I think I.

1084
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: Can culture GBT.

1085
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: I want to say I was one of the first.

1086
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, let's rally a group of less now.

1087
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. My cousin is gay. I have

1088
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 3: a couple of gay friends, a lot of gay friends. Actually,

1089
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 3: you know, I'm praised in Hollywood, so people know that

1090
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 3: I wasn't gay bashing. Yeah, it was just me calling

1091
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 3: somebody else. But he got so mad about it that

1092
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 3: we beefed out for a little while. So that helped

1093
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: me retire because I was like, okay, so at least

1094
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 3: I'm on a high note. I'm still on GMZ and

1095
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 3: I'm still doing this, but I don't want to do

1096
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 3: this no more so. And then I got a family,

1097
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 3: which I love so much. My wife is my beautiful wife.

1098
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what I would do without her. She

1099
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 3: kind of she saved me from Hollywood. She like literally

1100
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 3: saved me.

1101
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: Like, no, bosh, what do you mean by that?

1102
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 3: Because okay, well, of course she knew who I was

1103
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 3: when when we met, but I would tell her like, look,

1104
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 3: call me Carlos.

1105
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: That's my real name, you know that.

1106
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 3: So call me Carlos. Don't call me Spanky, Like don't

1107
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 3: I'm not spanky. I am spanky, but don't just call

1108
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 3: me Carlos. And it's like I was like teaching her

1109
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: like the real me. I was like, look, if I

1110
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 3: wouldn't have left Hollywood and or met you, I would

1111
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 3: still be there and I wouldn't. I would be nothing.

1112
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 3: I would be like a junkie one way or the other.

1113
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a deep statement.

1114
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Hollywood is a fix. It's not real. It's

1115
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 3: like a fix. It's like a big ass check you

1116
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 3: get one time in your life and you keep trying

1117
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 3: to do the same thing to get another check like that, to.

1118
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: Get another hit. It's almost like chasing a high.

1119
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 3: Exactly that that's what it is. And then the more

1120
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: people see you, especially like when we were coming up,

1121
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: like nineties, early two thousands, it was a lot different,

1122
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 3: Like appearances meant they meant more. Yeah, like back in

1123
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 3: the up. So it was like now it's.

1124
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: Like Instagram era. Well, I feel like it's funny because

1125
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: now that we have Instagram, like in the air that

1126
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: we came from, it was definitely more celebrity driven. I

1127
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: think Instagram came out in two thousand and around twenty

1128
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen or something.

1129
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 3: Okay, damn, I was gonna say like three but.

1130
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't then three face Yeah, yeah, Facebook or

1131
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: my Space, my Space, it was my Space. Facebook came out.

1132
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 3: Remember we used to hang out with Tom from my Space.

1133
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I tell people that all the time.

1134
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: But now we're in the era where Instagram is, and

1135
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: I fear for the world we live in now in

1136
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: the sense of like people that aren't even celebrities are

1137
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: chasing highs from likes, and.

1138
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 3: I say this, I fucking hate Instagram talent. I'm not

1139
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: into it. They're not funny. Uh, they just stay on

1140
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: the phone all day. If it was that simple when

1141
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: I was coming up, I would be a gazillionaire.

1142
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1143
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: I just feel like that that Instagram non talent stuff

1144
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 3: took away with the struggle of it, like the getting

1145
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 3: to know people and sleeping on people couches because because

1146
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: like at the end of the day, it's not about talent.

1147
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: And that's another thing that broke my heart when I

1148
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 3: found out it wasn't about how funny I was, and

1149
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 3: it wasn't about how many times I was funny, because

1150
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 3: you know, La, you got it. They judge you. Yeah,

1151
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 3: I've seen be funny like thirty times. You know, they

1152
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 3: judge you, they say shit like that. So but once

1153
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 3: I found out it wasn't about that. It's about relationships.

1154
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 3: It's like Hollywood relationship, you hit it.

1155
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: I think a keyword Hollywood, because I will say I

1156
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: don't know how New York is because I haven't really

1157
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: moved into industry out there, but I will say LA

1158
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: is all relationship.

1159
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 3: It's all relationships. It's just it's just like when you

1160
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 3: get something to your producer. You stuck to it. Now

1161
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: you're on whatever, the biggest show out and then you

1162
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: see me, Hey, what's up. That's how you get job.

1163
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. But you want to know something that's tricky about

1164
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: the relationships in hollywod and this is kind of what

1165
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: I was touching on earlier. It's very like fluid. There's

1166
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: no deep connection. I mean we have, I mean there's few,

1167
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: like even from Incredible, I walked away with deep connections.

1168
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: But the people that I were even closer to I

1169
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: didn't walk away with that deep connection from them, and

1170
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: you're like, wait, I saw you every day, like you know,

1171
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: But I mean there's a like a secret respect. I

1172
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: guess you'd say, like, you know, an honorary respect. But

1173
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,479
Speaker 1: even Nick Nick can't get your ass on our show

1174
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: but likes on the show. But like the truth in

1175
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: the matter is is like it's that honorary respect. It's like, yeah,

1176
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: you'll see the call, maybe you'll respond, but it's like

1177
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: if I'm not hot or we're not doing something together,

1178
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: there's no home ownership, then you know, maybe we'll pass

1179
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: to whatever is more convenient. But I definitely hate that

1180
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: about Hollywood.

1181
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they only hired the green like people who don't

1182
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: know that they're being took.

1183
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I liked what Orlando had said. He was like,

1184
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: you guys to look at Hollywood like a job. You're

1185
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: there to do your job, and when there's no job,

1186
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: you can't go to work.

1187
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: That's it.

1188
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: And that's how he said it. And I think that

1189
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: that was the best way to deal with it. But

1190
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: I think people coming into the game don't quite get that.

1191
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: They don't get it. And here's another thing. They don't

1192
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 3: get like they you're emulating. You're not. That's none of

1193
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 3: the stuff that they do is original. On TikTok, you

1194
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 3: can have you can put up a video and with

1195
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 3: your voice, and I could use your voice on my video,

1196
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 3: So that means you don't even have to use your

1197
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 3: own voice. I could get more hits than you. So

1198
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 3: that's crazy, Like that's absurd, Like I don't even and

1199
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 3: then they don't even know where they got the material from.

1200
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: They just doing it.

1201
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: I get a publicity request all the time for eating

1202
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: wone Broke and the email will say this person has

1203
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: fifteen million TikTok followers and there's a bet to release

1204
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: to EP And I'm like, wait, but it's TikTok where

1205
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: people are infamously like just voiceovers.

1206
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 3: Right, come on, not famous.

1207
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: Man, But you know, eyeballs equal dollars or what have you.

1208
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: But I definitely think that the industry has become diluted.

1209
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: But you're back in the game. Yes, So now that

1210
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: you're back, I want to know what made you come back,

1211
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: and I want to know what you got coming up.

1212
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 3: Well, I came back because I was going crazy trying

1213
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 3: to be normal.

1214
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I couldn't.

1215
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 3: I wanted to be a normal guy. And the more

1216
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 3: I was getting into it, oh man, that's not the

1217
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 3: life for me.

1218
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: Do you think it's because Hollywood kind of got you

1219
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: in the habit and this is the devil's advocate of

1220
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: chasing the high?

1221
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 3: I am definitely I was chasing the high.

1222
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: Because that many highs.

1223
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I wasn't. I didn't even know I was

1224
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 3: chasing it, and I was chasing it. So it's crazy

1225
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 3: because I'm still like famous. And by the way, guys,

1226
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 3: famous ain't shit. If being famous is nothing, they're either

1227
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 3: gonna give you money or they're gonna give you fame.

1228
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 3: If they give you money that comes with a job,

1229
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 3: that fame, then that's just the famous gonna wear off

1230
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 3: before you spend your money.

1231
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: And it doesn't even equal money.

1232
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 3: Fame doesn't e never, and it's never both of those.

1233
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 3: Like in today's age is a little bit more than

1234
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 3: in the beginning of the two thousands. Like Kevin Hard

1235
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,439
Speaker 3: is definitely rich, your famous, Nick Cannon is famous. Uh,

1236
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 3: day Spell is rich and famous? Uh who else?

1237
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say this though, I feel like there

1238
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: is a boyd this is probably gonna get me, But

1239
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: I do feel like even with the people you named,

1240
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: there was definitely a lot of white.

1241
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all white.

1242
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: And that kind of what kind of led me to

1243
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: my theory about Nick a little bit, was like, there's

1244
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: a lot of power plays behind those big people. Granted

1245
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: Nick definitely plays chess not checkers, that that dude he

1246
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: could teach a master course of how to move in

1247
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: a room full of vultures.

1248
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 3: I think, like jay Z, you know, but but he

1249
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 3: became a vulture. That's that's what Nick is now, he's

1250
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 3: the vulture. I don't know, I mean in a good way.

1251
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: I'm not saying nothing bad my brother, but I'm saying

1252
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 3: he's adapted to the sharks. Well, yeah, I turned a shark. Yeah.

1253
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: I kind of think maybe he was always a shark.

1254
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 3: He was always a shark. He was sark.

1255
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: I would say this. I'll say this. One thing I

1256
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: learned about Nick, and I try to tell people, is

1257
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: like Nick's watching you before you even though he's looking

1258
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, he'll read you, but you'll think

1259
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: he didn't even see you in the corner of the room.

1260
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 3: He saw hours ago everything and.

1261
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: He's listening to everything. And that's one thing. And I think,

1262
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, and I think it's dangerous in this industry.

1263
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: As ego, I always tell people, Man, you got beef,

1264
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: don't put it on no email seeing people, don't put

1265
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: in a group of text, don't even tell nobody. Just

1266
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: go direct to source, because that's it.

1267
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: It's gonna be all over the place, it's gonna be

1268
01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 3: out of proportion. But listen back to the internet comedians.

1269
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like the reason why I don't

1270
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 3: like them is because they took a lot of my

1271
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 3: confidence and a lot of not my confidence, but my

1272
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 3: structure in my blueprint to comedy like I was. I

1273
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 3: did comedy like fearless. There's only a few people like me.

1274
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 3: I would say, I got some of it from T. K.

1275
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 3: Kirklin and you know, but in my own version of it.

1276
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 3: And then I would say something like Corey Holcomb is

1277
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 3: kind of ballsy like that in a sense, but but

1278
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 3: he went further because I.

1279
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: Wasn't there anymore.

1280
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: Nobody was there anymore. So it was nobody calling people out.

1281
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 3: It was nobody being real, and that's what it is now.

1282
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 3: They took that. I feel like I'm like Lil Wayne

1283
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 3: like because like all the comedians now are like my sons.

1284
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 3: They took all stuff from me and they don't even

1285
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: know who their daddy is. They don't even care who

1286
01:04:59,680 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 3: they did.

1287
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: You're hilarious. I think in some retrospects they know, and

1288
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: maybe that's where their way of, you know, pay.

1289
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 3: To me. I go back to what we said earlier,

1290
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 3: like you know, it's like they don't give you no

1291
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 3: props to you dead, Like nobody's ever gonna say this,

1292
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna sound crazy when they when you show this,

1293
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: they can be like, oh, he's so arrogating all that.

1294
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 3: But watch when I die, they're gonna say, who started

1295
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 3: Wilie nowt he's the one who's Yeah, come on, man,

1296
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 3: give me my flowers now man especial flowers.

1297
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: Let's talk about what you got coming up? Okay, the Comeback.

1298
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,919
Speaker 3: Kid, The Comeback Kid. I got a movie called Back

1299
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 3: on the Strip that comes out August eighteen. I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to remember everybody. It has Wesley Snipes, Tiffany Hattish, Bill Bellamley,

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Speaker 3: who's one of my favorite guys, uh, Kevin Hart, Gary Owens,

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Speaker 3: faise I love.

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Speaker 1: These are a lot of heavy.

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Speaker 3: Hitters, Yeah, I said, Tiffany. Uh, and the guy ain't

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01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 3: gonna kill me. His name is Spencer Moore, but Spencer

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Speaker 3: Moore played the kid in Creed three, so when the

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Speaker 3: kid went to jail, it was the guy who went

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Speaker 3: to jail. He's like the star of it. So and

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Speaker 3: it's directed by Chris Spencer.

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Speaker 1: Oh shit, Christ, I'm trying to get Chris Spencer on

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 3: I'll help you.

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01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: And then are you doing are you doing the I

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01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: know Chris Spencer has that show up in Englewood. What's

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01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: it called? Are you doing those shows anymore?

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01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, the back Yeah, I haven't done it yet.

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Speaker 1: But so how did you end up getting like from

1318
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: being in retirement? Did you get a phone call?

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01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 2: Like a man?

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01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: We put that jersey back on? We need?

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01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: I was, uh, this is crazy. So me and my

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01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 3: family we went and by the way, I love my family.

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Speaker 3: Hello family. My wife. I got a daughter named Jedi,

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01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 3: daughter named Lily, and a son named Kobe. So we

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01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 3: Kobe wasn't born yet. Man, So I was deciding to

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Speaker 3: move back to Detroit because I wanted to move back

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01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 3: and see my mom and stuff. Right, So it wasn't

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01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 3: really going as well as I wanted it to go.

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01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 3: So I didn't know what I was gonna do. I

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01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 3: was like in the Airbnb and Chris just caused me

1331
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 3: out the book, see what you're doing? Where are you

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01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 3: at right now? Detroit Ton to Vegas? I was like,

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01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 3: what do you mean coming Vegas? He was like, I

1334
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 3: got a movie roll for you. Like what, Like, come

1335
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 3: on man, good plan? He was like, no, I'm serious.

1336
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 3: He was like, the only thing, you got to get

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01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 3: tested and make sure you don't got COVID before you

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01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 3: can get on the plane. So I was like, okay,

1339
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 3: I could do that, and they played they paid for

1340
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 3: my plane, and I paid for my wife and daughter's

1341
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 3: plane and now we're back on the West coast. Wow,

1342
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 3: that's crazy. And I was like a year.

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01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,919
Speaker 1: Ago, Yeah, now you're back.

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01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 3: I'm back now. And I got other movies coming out

1345
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 3: on to B and stuff like that. But you know,

1346
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 3: I don't count to be uh to be actors, you

1347
01:07:58,680 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 3: are not a real.

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01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:03,479
Speaker 1: Don't say that.

1349
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 3: If you don't get checks from SAG, you're not real.

1350
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: Wait to be UH doesn't get checks from.

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01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 3: No, that's like bootleg shot. I mean nothing against them

1352
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 3: because I've done some Tooby.

1353
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,440
Speaker 1: Movies, but but does to be paid decent.

1354
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,560
Speaker 3: Toby is kind of like a gig, like like a contractor.

1355
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 3: You get as much money as you negotia and it's

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01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 3: right there. You get it right now. No, it's not

1357
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 3: not sacked.

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Speaker 1: Okay, non union on behalf of everybody. I'm gonna give

1359
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: you your flowers here. I really appreciate you coming out

1360
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,879
Speaker 1: and trust me, I was look, I was so like excited.

1361
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Spanky, I'm gonna remind you, and I did.

1362
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: Good morning, Spanky. Don't forget. I'll see you today. I'm

1363
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: gonna see it in a couple of days.

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01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 3: Oh, don't forget. I cannot forget this. I'm shooting a

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01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,839
Speaker 3: Netflix special September eleven.

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01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: Right, that's the biggest news of it all.

1367
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 3: So you know it's gonna be the bomb.

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01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait a minute, September eleventh. You haven't

1369
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: shot it yet at.

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Speaker 3: The comedy store on Sunset.

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01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: That's home turf, So get the freak out. So now

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01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: that you're damn you came back swinging.

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01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 3: Man, I'm trying.

1374
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: I freaking now. Guys. Now I'm in debate. Should we

1375
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: be dropping this?

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01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: Definitely eighteen Yeah, okay, we go, we go, we go

1378
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: with you. But damn, that's great news. Oh ship high five,

1379
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: happy for you.

1380
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 3: Know how long it took for us to get here, man,

1381
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 3: you know the struggles and still smiling.

1382
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: That's how did you pull the Netflix? Did they call you?

1383
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 3: This is another crazy story. So I go in and

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01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 3: I go in the comedy store. I see Kanye. You know,

1385
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 3: Kanye has been down with us a long time.

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01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: Kanye West, that's what I thought you said. I didn't

1387
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: know that.

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01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a million times in the beginning.

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Speaker 1: You nick and not me. Unfortunately.

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01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 3: You know, Kanye, that's my man. So I seen Kanye

1391
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 3: walking in and I'm like, oh, Shay, what's up. And

1392
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 3: we start talking and I'm like, what's going on? And

1393
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 3: then I see Dave and then he walks away. He

1394
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 3: was like, oh you next, and I'm like huh and

1395
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 3: then he like walks out and all this ship is

1396
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 3: happening in one time. And then next thing you know,

1397
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 3: I'm on stage like tearing the ass up and.

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01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: At the comedy store.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I got the only I got another Standovation.

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01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 3: That's crazy. But I was the only one of that

1401
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 3: night to get Atnovation, and I was like the last.

1402
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 3: I think only two more people went after. So I

1403
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 3: was like way at the end of the night. So

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01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 3: it was like, yeah, you're it so.

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01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,839
Speaker 1: So, but where was how was Netflix? How did the Netflix?

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01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 3: Well, it was a Netflix showcase.

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01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: It was a Netflix showcase.

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01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Dave Chappelle had is doing like a Dave

1409
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 3: Sappelle present.

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01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: Oh, it was like, how he did? I think he

1411
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: did that with Earthquake.

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01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 3: Right right, But I think it's kind of more. I

1413
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 3: think it's like more like death jam what he's doing.

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01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, oh yeah, let's get it.

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01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: And Kanye was there.

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01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 3: And Kanye was right there and he was We took

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01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of pictures and I got viral real fast.

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01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you know it's crazy. I think this time

1419
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:24,879
Speaker 1: around you you feel, well, obviously you've matured in your experience.

1420
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: You've definitely taken it in and let it sit within you.

1421
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: I feel like the second time around is going to

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01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: be a truly beautiful experience.

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01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: Man, me too. But I'm gonna tell you why. It's

1424
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 3: because I already did it for me. So it's like

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01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 3: I already have my fun. Yeah, so I have to

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01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 3: feed my children that I see every day, my beautiful

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01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 3: girls and my son and my wife, Like I'm doing

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01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 3: it for them. So the world is in trouble because

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01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 3: now I don't have to worry about what people think

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01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 3: about me, and I don't care about that no more.

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01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get these checks.

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01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 1: So are you at all nervous about like the temptations

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01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: or anything, or what's your plan, because I feel like

1434
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: the temptations can be there, like you have a plan

1435
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: for that.

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01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 3: I'm so like in love with my family.

1437
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: That I feel every time you say that, you know.

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01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I would probably just try to

1439
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 3: talk my wife into doing it with with me.

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01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: You're hilarious, I mean, but you know I wouldn't do

1441
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: it bout myself though. Yeah, but no, I feel like

1442
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: every time I talk to you, the way you talk

1443
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: about your wife and your family, like I hear it.

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01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, they saved me. They saved me because like even

1445
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 3: in California, working in Hollywood, I only could find a

1446
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 3: baby mama, that's it. And as soon as I went

1447
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 3: away from Hollywood, I found my wife.

1448
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 1: So I'm like, and he was met her in Vegas.

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01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I met in Vegas of all places.

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01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: Shout outs to your wife, Yeah what's up? Yeah yeah, yeah,

1451
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: Shae Hayes, Well thank you so much for fixing me

1452
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 1: the broke.

1453
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 3: Okay, for real, I did.

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01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: But this is the thing. Okay, I could eat this

1455
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: whole thing, right, but when I'm interviewing you, it'd be

1456
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: like follow fast. There's no way, especially with this amount

1457
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: of serving. But did I like it? Yes? Will my

1458
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: daughter be eating it? I will personally take a picture

1459
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: and say, look at my daughter because yeah, probably be

1460
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,799
Speaker 1: tomorrow's day, I promise you, because sometimes I'm so desperate

1461
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: for like what am I going to make it?

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01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 3: I'm telling and it's so simple, a little bit of salt.

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01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: I may the only thing I may do is maybe

1464
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: boil some broccoli and put it in there. Okay, I

1465
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: ground that, you know, I can surround it out.

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01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 3: I can see that.

1467
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: But overall, as far as fast on the run, less

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01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: than twenty minute mom meal. Shit, if you're trying to

1469
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 1: throw your kid out the door, this.

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01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 3: Is gonna hit and they're gonna be full too.

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01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: Yes, how can people keep up with you?

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01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 3: I prefer that they don't, But come on you back, okay?

1473
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 3: Well official Spinky Hayes is my Instagram and Carlos Hayes

1474
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 3: is my Facebook.

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01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah cool, and I'll be checking in and I'm

1476
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 1: gonna be giving you as many roses possible. I definitely

1477
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: want to come out and support any opportunity.

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01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 3: Man, please do it, and I would love to come

1479
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 3: back to this show anytime. Man. Shout out to Charlemagne,

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01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 3: to God. I just want to thank you Charlemagne for

1481
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 3: making me dunky other day. Two times. You know what

1482
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 3: I mean? I got two times? Thank you, Charlemagne.

1483
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hey, you know what, whether it's bad press

1484
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: or good press, it's still press.

1485
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 3: I just called it the Bobby Brown. Bobby Brown. They

1486
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 3: talked about him bad and good. It didn't matter.

1487
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter as long as they talking about you exactly.

1488
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 1: But you're back. I'm back and we're excited to give

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01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:44,839
Speaker 1: you roses now.

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01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 3: Thank you.

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01:14:46,080 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening. Peace out, Peace for more

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01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: eating while broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect, visit

1493
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to

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Speaker 1: your favorite shows.