WEBVTT - “Teamwork Makes The Dream Work Part 2” 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:08.680 And we're back with part two. Welcome back to those amigos. 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:13.800 I am Wilmer Bodrama. I'm Freddy Rodriguez and uh Freddy, 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:16.240 we've been talking about leadership, putting teams together. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.360 Yeah, yeah, let's get into it. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:23.119 New middle dose transparency. I think it's number one, y right, Like, 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.920 there's no secrets here. If we're in the telling story business, 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:31.000 you know, like we we need to be very much 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.080 on the same page at all times. If you disagree 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:38.159 with something, it's so important that you do it with kindness, 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:42.560 that you do it with with the serenity of welcoming 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:47.040 new ideas, and that if you're going to oppose a question, 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.200 that you should always come with an answer, right, because 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.680 that's still the thing that like, you know, one thing 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.160 is be a complainer and saying like, hey, you know 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:58.959 it's not good enough or it's not this, or it's 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:02.400 not getting there, and the other one is not following 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.760 those comments with a roadmap to get it to a 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.000 better place. If you really do have an opinion that 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:13.880 something is not working, you know, then what is your 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:18.240 thoughts on making it work? Right? So, so like that's 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:19.840 that's where I feel like number one when it comes 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.319 to leadership, it's important to be transparent with your teams, 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:28.880 but it's also even more important to listen to to 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:34.400 the team's uh, you know, thoughts and struggles with with 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.200 such create creative endeavors, right, Like you know, you don't 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.800 have to have all the answers right. And somebody said, 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.240 it's like the best leaders of the ones who don't micromanage. 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:44.880 Right. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.680 The best visionaries are the ones who you know, think 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.560 of a dream, right, they visualize it, and then they 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:57.840 divorce that dream and allow the team to own that 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.680 and then have that team bring that dream to life 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.040 and sore in other ways that you didn't even expect 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:06.600 for that same idea to do. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:08.040 Is that why you. 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:12.000 Feel that your company has grown as much as it 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:16.400 has and has seen the success that it's seen. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:17.240 Is it? 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.880 Do you feel that that type of leadership skill has 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.000 contributed to that aspect? 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:27.160 I think I trust and so therefore they trust me, right. 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.160 I trust my team to do what they're there to do, right, 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.519 you know, and when there's things that could have been 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.079 a lot more efficient, or could have been a lot 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:41.960 more you know, thoughtful, or things like that, they're very 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.440 soft quick discussions. We don't have to. Nobody has to 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:49.960 feel like, you know, like they got it wrong. Everybody 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.760 could feel like, great, we try that, let's try this 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:54.160 other way, right, So. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:55.800 Transparency, I think it is because they're human. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:57.600 They're human and about the way, we're going to make 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.320 mistakes and people are gonna so I think I think 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.720 the biggest thing for me is to trust the people 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.840 you have in your team to do what they're there 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:12.400 to do, you know, because otherwise you just do everyone's job, right, Like, 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.840 the leader is not there to do everyone's job. The 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:20.360 leader is there to facilitate, to delegate with kindness, and 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.800 to create an environment where they feel safe voicing the 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.800 good and the bad ideas. 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.359 Although it may not be intentional. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.639 Do you find and I asked this because I've known 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:34.200 you so long, right, and do you find that not 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.640 that you you try to do everybody else's job, but 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:41.200 you're so you're so I've seen you be so incredibly 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.880 focused and on your hustle. Do you find that you 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:49.200 have to sometimes go I got I gotta step back, 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.120 I gotta not I gotta not do that, I gotta 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:56.400 not make that call, I gotta not pick those cables. Dude, 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.760 I've seen you I've seen you wear like five different 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:00.000 hats at one time. 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.240 Man, I'm like, geez, man, this guy is gonna. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.520 Well look, I think we all have to be able 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.280 to wear those hats to eventually not look at that. 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:08.960 Smile, man, look at that smile. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.600 Yeah, you know, I'm speaking the truth here, you know. 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:17.120 Here's the thing. Yeah, and I don't disagree. I think 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:23.760 that when you are a creative person and you have 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:29.160 the ability to see beyond the idea, when I come 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.640 up with an idea myself, right, I'm already at like, 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:37.880 how is this sitting on the shelves? There's like probably 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.400 thirty five steps before the shelf, same, right, but I'm 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.560 already thinking about what the poster looks like before there's 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:51.120 even a script, right. And that's that's both a gift 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:56.919 and really occurs because there's a lot of steps in 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.880 between to get it there. But for all those things 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.480 to get you to that shelf of that poster idea, 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.960 there is a team who does that better than you. Yeah, 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:11.160 you know, and so therefore, but you do have to 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.599 have eyes on the process, especially when it's something as 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.039 specific as like a major ip or something like there's 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.760 certain things you can just stray away from and you 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.880 know you're there to steer the ship. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.040 Yeah, you know, but a. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.520 Team is getting it somewhere right, because what you're thinking 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.719 of is the end go right. You're at point A 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.360 and you already see Z. And your job as a 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.800 company owner, as a CEO, is to guide that process 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:38.440 from A to Z. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.400 Correct correct. Yeah. And and by the way, that's the 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.240 other thing you do this long enough with individuals, I 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.520 mean someone like Leo. Leo, how long you've been working 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.720 We've been working together. So Leo and I have been 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:56.840 working together for fourteen years. For fourteen years, he's understood, 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:03.520 you know, the you know, the essence the DNA and 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:07.000 the mission statement of the company, and he's owned it himself. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:12.200 And now it's his vision now the podcast division which 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:15.479 he is the head of, and how he manages his 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.960 relationship with our partners, our iHeartMedia. You know, it comes 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.359 from his vision or where he feels this company should 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.680 go next as a podcast division. And what I can 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:29.360 do is I can support him. I can, you know, 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.440 I can. I can support his ideas. I can give 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:37.440 him real feedback, right, but at some point I have 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:41.400 to now trust his ideas of how these things you 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.520 run so most often times or not because we have 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.560 such a shorthand at this point, he'll come and I 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.080 will ask him what do you think we should do 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.120 about that? And he's like, I think we could go here, here, 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.520 and here, and I go, okay, go. I don't have 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.479 to have an opinion about that, because I know that 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:59.640 he's probably mad every possible scenario before we make that decision. 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:01.919 Are you Are you out of point that? 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:06.839 Although although let's just say something that Leo brings to you, right, 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.520 and although you're at point A and you kind of 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.680 see Z, but Leo has a different opinion as to 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:15.840 how to get to Z. Are you at a point 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:22.119 where you override your own instinct and allow him to 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:22.960 reach Z? 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.000 Or yes and no? Yes or no? Because if we 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:32.480 both see it a little differently, before I even disagree, 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.960 I would create space for him to tell me what's 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.920 the outcome, how does it end, you know, and what 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.960 is it about? Because there may be things in the 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.920 initial conversation that I didn't pick up on that I 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.400 needed in order to say, oh, yeah, it's good. Right, 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.960 So that's like one aspect of it. But if it 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:56.120 is in fact a differential of you know of directions. 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.960 It doesn't come in the form of critique or disagreement. 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:01.960 It comes in the form of questions. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:02.720 Right. 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:06.080 Right, So you asked the question, right, what do you 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:07.200 think the audience is for this? 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:08.600 Right? 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.880 Or you know, what would an episode be? 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:12.120 Like? 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.080 What's the structure of an episode? 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:14.960 Right? 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:18.160 And the other one is like, what's the theme of 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.160 the season? You know, if you have to create a 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.000 theme for the season, what's that theme? 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:23.520 Yeah? 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:25.480 What are the guests like? 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:26.760 Right? 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.640 When you ask all these questions about a show and 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.120 somebody has an answer for. 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.320 Those, yeah, you have to trust them. 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.560 Yeah, And wouldn't you say there's also an aspect of 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.800 humility on both sides, right, because you have to have 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:47.520 the humility enough to go although like, and I'm speaking 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:52.600 for you now, Leo, I would imagine on Leo's end 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.880 to have the humility enough that if you're asking him 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.080 a million questions for him not to. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.280 Let his ego or go go, why is he asking 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:02.960 me questions? 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:09.080 I've been so incredibly blessed everyone that has worked and 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.959 works at WV, you know, and has owned their own 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.040 perspective departments, because the company now has multiple departments and 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.439 they're running on their own, right, like the podcast division, right, 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:23.280 the podcast division, the alternative division, right, you know, the 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.720 scripted division, right, the film division. 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:26.000 Right. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:30.240 Then then you have you know, the product development side. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.080 But then you also have h you know, the management 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.680 company and and and then the nonprofit stuff. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:36.040 Right. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.520 What I'm saying is that, like in order for all 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:41.720 of that to run, there has to be a level 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:46.880 of trust. You know, that that comes with time, you know. 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.720 And I and I would say this, like the number 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:54.960 one the number one skill that anyone, no matter what 0:09:55.160 --> 0:10:02.080 career or what job they're going for, to have is foresight. 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:03.040 Mm hm. 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.839 You have to see it before it happens. You have 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.440 to have an answer before the question happens. Right, And 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.920 that's one thing everyone in this company does beautifully, right. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.760 You know, they know what questions I'm going to ask 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.800 at some point already, you know, so they checkmate me 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.080 in ways that like I don't even see coming in. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.680 So there's there's ah that's interesting because they've worked with 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.360 you for so long they have a sense of what 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:27.040 you might come. 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.000 But it's in the culture, right, It's in the culture. 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:33.920 And in that trust also kind of evolves into you know, 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:40.719 into a mutual respect so it's foresight and respect. You 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:44.319 gotta you know, you gotta put on your silk gloves 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:50.160 when you are handling storytelling because not one size fits all. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.520 And that's okay, right, as long as you're telling the 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:57.520 same story together. How you get to the last page 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.720 that says the end? You know that that is the 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:06.040 adventurous exercise that you go with your creative partners, right, 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.320 like you know, but but the two days like yes 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:14.360 and right, and then over time you learn that you 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:18.839 what you respect about these individuals goes beyond their creativity, 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:24.600 their organizational skills, their their their sense of foresight, you 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:28.320 know it. You start realizing that it takes a very 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.040 balance and beautiful individual to to you know, to do 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.640 a job like this, love it and the highs and 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.040 the lows, and you're not not only respecting it to 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.360 become really good friends, you know. But I think in 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.040 that process you learn to appreciate the friendship and you know, 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:47.199 you spend so much time together that eventually you go, oh, well, 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.400 you know this is you know, we're going to experience 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.280 life together too, yeah, you know, and that and that 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.160 life happens, and you know, I've leaned on Leo and 0:11:56.360 --> 0:12:01.400 Jessica and you know Todao and I mean everybody in 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.120 my life. Dude, that's just worked on me for a 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.200 very long time. But you know, but that could be tricky, right. 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:10.160 Yeah, And that brings up a great point, Wilmer, which 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.160 I want to ask you about. When you work so 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:17.079 closely with people and you develop a relationship over what 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.720 over a decade, right right, you become friends. And I 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:22.640 wanted to see and want to ask you all on 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.840 the on the flip side of that, would you ever 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.600 hire your friends from back home or friends that you 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.720 grew up with to be a part of your team 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.760 because you have the first part of that relationship, right 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:39.000 of the closeness and familiarity, but maybe not the professional 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.199 side of that. So would you because you look at 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.520 examples like Lebron. You know, Lebron James hired you know, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.120 his friends from back home, Rich Paul and Maverick Carter 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.160 and they're doing big things right now. And so I 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.120 had that question for you both. Would you ever be 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:56.240 open to working with and building a team that consists 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.800 of close friends from the get go? 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.280 That's a that's a tough one. That's a tough one. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.960 I think I would imagine. Look, I don't I don't 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:10.080 know what was behind Lebron's decision making, but I would 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:16.080 imagine that he must have seen something in them that said, well, 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.120 these are not just like my buddies who I hang 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:19.959 out with and mess around with. 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.480 Right, there must have been they must. 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:26.760 Have had the aptitude the skill level to achieve the 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.280 heights that they that they achieved. Right. They were probably 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:34.880 not in Corporate America's eyes like the first choice maybe, 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:39.360 but he saw something in them that they could that 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.400 they could get there, and it took someone like Lebron 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.559 to give them that chance to do it right. So, 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:48.839 So to answer that question, would I, I mean, yeah, 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:53.960 if I saw those qualities in someone, whether they're my friend, 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.640 whether they're my kids, whether they're whoever it is, but 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:03.679 I need to see specific qualities in the specific goals 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.280 and motivation and other and other aspects in them for 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.720 me to go I'm gonna take this chance on you, 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:16.520 because there's always that possibility that they don't they don't 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:20.400 meet your expectations, right, And if they don't meet your expectations, 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:24.520 then what then? It affects your relationship, it affects your friendship, 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:26.800 or even if you're hiring family, right, how does that 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.120 affect It's tricky, It's really tricky. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.240 It's very tricky. And I think that that's the that's 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:43.440 the right answer. I think that's the best answer. My 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.440 biggest concern is if you're trying to achieve something, you 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.760 have to give yourself the best shot, you know. And 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.320 you know, there's this fantasy of like I'm bringing you know, 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.360 I'm bringing the crew with me, you know, And I 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.920 tried it. I tried it the first ten to fifteen 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.120 years of my career. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.600 I tried. But you were you were like a freaking teenager. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.680 Exactly why exactly why you were? 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.880 You were on the biggest show on the planet and 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.160 you were and it was popular, and I mean I 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:14.920 could imagine you must have been. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.640 Like I hired some of my friends as my assistance, 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.160 and uh, what's the craziest thing that ever happened when 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.360 one of your friends, well you don't have to name 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:23.040 the person. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:23.880 No, So. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.760 No, all of them I think are stable and doing 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:31.080 their own thing now. But I will say, you know, 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:35.240 it said, you know form like you know, these assistants 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:41.640 giving you, you know, Christmas and birthday presents and use 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:42.480 your own credit card. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.600 Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait your assistant gave 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:52.320 you a birthday Christmas present, but use your credit card 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.040 pay for it by yes, okay. 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.560 So I bought my own Christmas presents from my assistant, 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.840 you know. So like I got this really nice dress 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:03.560 shirts with my initials on it, and I was like, 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:07.520 this is really thoughtful. I love that. WUV either, I mean, 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:11.320 w e V. That's awesome, you know, and these are 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.120 really cool shirts. And at the time, I was wearing 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.040 suits all the time. I was like, yeah, this is 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.080 this is really thoughtful. I like that, you know. And 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.320 then the statements came, and all of a sudden, I 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.480 was like, where where are these shirts from? Like I 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:24.600 didn't buy this dress shirt? 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:26.560 Was there ever a moment in between that where you 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:33.800 were like, I know what your salary is, Yeah, how 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.520 are you affording this shirt on an assistant salary? 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:39.440 Yeah? No, I mean like the other instances, like, you know, 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:41.440 I'd be away shooting a movie or something, and I 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.240 had my Austin Martin and the you know, my brand 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.280 new dB nin and Austin Martin in the in the 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:52.480 garage and I came home, yeah, like maybe two months 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.280 later or something. And then I looked in the garage 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.280 and there was a dent in the front of the garage, 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.880 and there was only one car that would fit that description, 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.160 and it was the US Tomorrow that was Parker. 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.359 Crossed from that dead no Man. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.479 And I found out they never told me that they 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.080 move the US Tomorrow or they was taken out or 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.639 whatever the hell they drove your car away into the 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.240 no but that they were driving your car. I mean, look, 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:23.960 I I'm gonna I'm gonna not rehash that memory and 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.120 try to be shared like homes over here and try 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:27.920 to find out if they actually went on joy rides. 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.960 I'm gonna assume not. Maybe they were moving the car 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.159 by accident they hit it against the thing, but it 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.760 was like a major dan to in the garage from 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.439 and didn't say anything, and then nobody said anything about it. 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.359 They're like, oh, nothing happened to the cars, So I 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.440 think we're good, you know. So it's like stuff like that. 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.639 You're like, come on, man, But then you have people 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.720 like like Todaw, who I see you still in your 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.439 enterve my life forever and as far as I've known you, 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:55.000 Todaw has always been there. 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.679 Yes, Todaw, just to describe Todaw for everybody who's listening 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:06.160 or watching, Todao is a beautiful uh samoan of culture 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.959 man who has been my brother us. He has stood 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:14.879 by my side. It was my protector, you know. He 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:19.600 was my security for you twenty plus years. He has 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.359 his own product, he has his own security company now 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:24.560 where he deployed. 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:25.000 You know. 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.200 So he's doing really really good, and I'm incredibly proud 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.560 of him. He's got a beautiful family with Nicole and baby. 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.800 But but yeah, but Todaw was one of those guys 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:43.439 who tolerated very zero I mean like zero shenanigans around 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.240 my life. You know, if you were out here for 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.240 reasons that were not like minded, you were you were 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.919 not allowed to be around. And he really protected me 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.840 in so many ways. So in that aspect, you know, 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.480 we we were on the road all the time. You know, 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:01.240 you talk about ego zero go. If something had to 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.159 be done, he would just be the first one to 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.640 show up. He never I never had to ask him 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:07.960 for a favor because he was already seeing it before 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:09.240 it happened, you know, and. 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:13.160 So not taking advantage of your kindness. No, he always 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:14.240 a sense of respect. 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:14.800 He was the way. 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.240 He showed up for absolutely everything, all of it. 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:19.920 But you know what I'm saying, like like because he could, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.120 Like you know, sometimes you hire people and they get 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.879 really comfortable because they know you're cool, and then the 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:25.439 respect you. 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:27.440 Don't know, I like, I don't know how to ask 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:31.600 for help. I'll just be very open here. I don't 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:36.000 know how to ask for help, right and and therefore 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:40.640 having real foresight is something I reward in our company 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:45.000 because I sometimes would just do it myself right, Like 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:46.879 it's it's it's a tough thing. I mean, it's just 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:50.520 always you know, I'd rather show up for people. I 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.280 never asked anyone to show up for me, and I've 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.240 had to learn over the years to kind of really 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.000 lean on the people that I know soulfully really want 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.440 to be there, you know, and that he brings them 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:04.320 joy to show up for me. Yeah, you know, like 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.800 silly things like uh you know, like a like a 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.040 birthday party for Nicano like these are you know, my 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:15.439 friends are the heads of the departments WV Entertainment, and 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.919 and they're showing up and blowing up balloons and like 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.080 you know, talking to the princess to go through the 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.080 back to surprise or or bring in the cake, and 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:25.000 it's like it's like a real friendship, you know, where. 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:26.359 They could have been like, that's not my job. 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.600 Yeah exactly. Yeah, so I don't do that, you know, 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:31.720 but as soon as they're gonna be and it's because 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:35.440 I also don't. I don't go around to celebrate myself 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.400 often or you know that, it just doesn't happen. But 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:40.080 as soon as they forced me to do it, and 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:41.800 I love it, you know what I mean, then I'm like, 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:46.520 I'm all about it, right, But they just they really 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.840 support me, and uh so, you know, so it's a 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:53.199 pleasure to show up for for them. You know, what 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.000 about you? Do you do you have a pressure? Like 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:57.880 do you do you know how to ask for help? 0:20:57.920 --> 0:20:59.200 Do you know how to make that phone call? 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:03.119 And that's a really good question. I think that because 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.400 of how we grew up, it's tough. 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:06.080 As do it yourself. 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:10.560 Yeah, man, yeah, I'm a very much do it myself, 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:17.080 wear all five hats type of personal and and sometimes 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.720 that's tough because there are I have a wonderful team 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:25.159 behind me that I should be delegating them more of 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:31.280 that too, that I often find myself fighting the urge to. 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:30.840 To do it. 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:32.960 Not not to say that I want to do anybody's 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:35.800 job by by no means, but it's just it's like 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:37.920 what you said at the beginning of this conversation, right 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:39.399 like you're at point A. 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:40.720