1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Okay, you guys are listening to the Velvet Said podcast. 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson and I am here with one 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: of my best friends, Andy Saltz. Heres. Hello. Hi. She Okay, 4 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: she is one of the most badass stylists probably, I 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: would say in America. This is a bold statement. I'm 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: going to stay the universe, but I forget that other 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: entries have stils, other planets. I feel like, I want 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: to brag on you so bad, but any gets super uncomfortable. Yeah, 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm already uncomfortable. So I'm just gonna list a couple 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: of her clients. These are people you told me you 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: worked with like this week, right, so I can just 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: say this, Yes, it's fine. I just I feel like 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: kind of like a tool listing my clients. But yes, 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: you can say who I've been working with recently. So 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: she this week has worked with Justin Timberlake, Rob Low, 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: and Chris Pratt. Correct. So I mean, if you guys 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: can get the picture, those are three top names in Hollywood, 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: and she's kind of a badass. We know each other 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: through Dark Spentley, Thank God for Dark's love. Dirks. I mean, 20 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: what would we do without him? But we met how 21 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: many years ago? Was that like seven years? Yeah, I 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: was just talking about this with someone. I think it's 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: six or seven years. Oh my gosh. Yes, So shewn By. 24 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: It's seriously flow By. She's been Darksis stylist for that 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: long and we were we met. I remember meeting you 26 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: the first job. It wasn't Austin. It was the windiest 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: job we've ever done, which I was super stressful for me. 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm dark Sis groomer and that situation was terrible. Remember 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: the hair. I was stressed out the whole time. He 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: kept trying to block the wind. That was his album cover. 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: So that was our first meeting. And I mean, I 32 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: feel like it's been a love story ever since. I 33 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: fell in love with Kelly immediately, and vice versa, vice versa. 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: But if you want to know more about Annie, you 35 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: can google her because I did this. Did you know 36 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: I did you know you have an IMDb d V page. 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: It can't be accurate? Well, I know, I didn't know that. 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: I think that it is accurate. And the reason I 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: say that is when you get on the page, it 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: first talks about maybe a couple of films you've worked on. 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: It talks about the stuff you've done with Madonna? Really 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: is true? Correct? Okay, yeah? Correct? Then the first headline, 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: You're Gonna die. There's a headline. The headline like it 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: has movies and like clips, and then it goes down 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: into the headlines and news stories, and the first headline 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: is Chris Pratt has his man boobs blow dry. Oh 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: my god, what you don't remember this? His man boobs? 48 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: You don't remember this? He posted that. No, I know 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I was drawing his arm packs. But I'm like, first 50 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: liked Chris Pratt does not have man boob. Absolutely not 51 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: know he's so hot. Um. But second of all, that's 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: the article that your mind or so who puts together 53 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: that IMDb page? Not somebody very intelligent. It can't be 54 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: anyone who knows me personally. Definitely not. They have not 55 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: interviewed you. Thank you for alerting me, first of all, 56 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: because I had no idea that I even had an 57 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: IMDb page. I didn't either. Well. The cool thing about you, 58 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: this is one of the coolest things about Annie to me, 59 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: is she works with all these huge celebrities, she's a 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: amazing stylist, and she does not even have a social 61 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: media page. Well, no, no, no no, I'm sorry, you have one. Well, 62 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: I have an Instagram account. I just like not really 63 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: being present on it at all. But the funny thing 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: is that I have followers. You know, you totally have followers. 65 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: And actually, if you search the tag Annie Saltires, which 66 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: I'll put her name in my blog because none of 67 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: you will ever guess how to spell it. But if 68 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: you search your tag, it's all these pictures of you 69 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: like that justin post or like other clients of yours, 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: and they tag you but you haven't posted, which to 71 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: me is brand deering, and it just it speaks a 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: lot to your character because you really don't care what 73 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: people think. You just do what you love. That's exactly right, Kelly. 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: That's my motto. That's your motto, and that's my life, 75 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: my life hack. Did you always know you wanted to 76 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: be a stylist? Was that like something you grew up 77 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: wanting to know are wanting to do? Well? I kind 78 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: of grew up doing it in a way because I 79 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: didn't go to college. I'm not recommending that to any 80 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: young people listening, Okay, but when I graduated high school 81 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: about a hundred years ago in the nineties, um, I 82 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: graduated high school just to give you some context, And 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: when I graduated high school, I really didn't want to 84 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: go straight to college. I just I really wanted to 85 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: sort of start my life and I didn't want to 86 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: do another four years of school. I just wanted to 87 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: kind of get into the workforce and get my own apartment. 88 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: I just kind of wanted to be independent and just 89 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: like I said, art my life. So I said, well, 90 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: I didn't want to totally disappoint my parents. I wasn't 91 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: ready to completely disappoint them. So I said, well, I'll 92 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: just take a year off, you know. So in that 93 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: year off, I I went to m Santa Monica City College, 94 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: which was just literally to only appease my parents. I 95 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: took English, jazz appreciation, and ceramics. Yeah that sounds like 96 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: a really nice quite the curriculum. But in the meantime, 97 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: I got a job. I told everyone I knew that 98 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to start working. And I was always sort 99 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: of artistically inclined. I kind of debated going to art school. Um, 100 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: but my sister I grew up in Los Angeles. So 101 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: growing up in Los Angeles, you're just surrounded by the 102 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: entertainment industry. Even if you don't try I mean, I 103 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: didn't grow up connected by any means. My parents are 104 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: from Greece. They don't They're not in the business at all. 105 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: But my sister had a friend whose husband was an 106 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: art director and he design sets and did art direction 107 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: for music videos and commercials. And it was the nineties, 108 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: so it was like the golden age of music videos. 109 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: I did a lot of music videos and kin and 110 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: she said yeah, and um, so this woman said, well, 111 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: my husband's looking for an assistance, so you know, maybe 112 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: you should meet him. And you know, I was really young. 113 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: I was just out of high school, and I started 114 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: working for him and doing scenic painting and making props 115 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: and um, working on music videos. I'm trying to think 116 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: of some did you ever work on a white snake video? 117 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: About that's a little before. For some reason, when I 118 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: think of the epic days of music videos, white snake 119 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: is like the first thing that always comes to mind. 120 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: I wish I could say that I worked in a 121 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: white scenic video, but I did not. I was still 122 00:06:55,200 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: in high school and okay, sorry, I just age to 123 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: do Yeah, that's okay, Um, so I work. I did 124 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: that for a few years and then I saw what 125 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: the stylists were up to and I thought, oh, I 126 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: think I'd be really good at that. I was always 127 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: sort of the friend that would help you with your 128 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: prom outfit or I can't think about that for a second, 129 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: because I think that that is fascinating because I have 130 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: personally never seen you in a dress. Like, let's talk 131 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: a little bit about your style, because as a stylist, 132 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: I think people imagine that you would be over the 133 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: top and always dressed like what's the words the ninety nines, 134 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: but like, yeah, just like super trendy and pushing all 135 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: the barriers of fashion. Well, there's a lot of stylist 136 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: like that amazing and they're super cool. So how do 137 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: you describe your style? Then? Oh, my style is you 138 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: can describe it using too items of clothing jeans and 139 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: a T shirt exactly. My style is really really simple. Yeah. Um, 140 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: I think it might have to do with the fact 141 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: that I went to Catholic school and I wore a 142 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: uniform every day, which I loved, and when we had 143 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: a free dress day, it was really exciting and you 144 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: got to choose whatever you would wear, you know, So 145 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: I really did like put thought into my outfit. Um, 146 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: but ultimately I really really enjoyed that uniform vibe, and 147 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: I kind of you kind of operate that way that way. Now, 148 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that, but that's a really 149 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: you have your uniform, I mean you you switched a variation. 150 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: You always have a really good pair of jeans, though, 151 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: I've got a few good pair of jeans, A really 152 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: good fitting T shirt yep, mostly a Vantage T shirt. 153 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: I also dabble in that vantage very much so. And 154 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: you'll do a really good pair of boots. I will 155 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: sometimes today I'm wearing red wings. I like vintage military boots. 156 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: I also live in like really comfortable nikes. This is true, yes, 157 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: because working, you know, m I work really long hours 158 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: and so I have to be I basically have to 159 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: be really comfortable. That's the only thing I really care about. 160 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: So a lot about function. Yes, every single thing I 161 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: wear is very functional. So you were saying that when 162 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: you first got your start, you got you worked for 163 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: this guy in the art department, you saw the stylists, 164 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: and then what was your first styling job, Like, how 165 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: did you transition into that? So I told everyone I 166 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: knew I want to work with stylists. I'll work for free, 167 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: I'll do any job. I just want to assist stylists. 168 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: I was probably twenty years old because I told everyone 169 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: I knew, if you hear of anyone who needs an 170 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: assistant or needs any sort of styling help, I will 171 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: do it. And so people introduced me. I had a 172 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: couple of really great mentors. Well. The first, the first 173 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: job I ever did doing clothing was a short film 174 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: that a friend of mine was doing a friend of 175 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: a friend, and he said, I really need someone to 176 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: do the costumes. He was just kind of like a hipster. 177 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: He was doing this short film and he said, you 178 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: someone to do the costumes. Have you done costumes? And 179 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: I said, uh huh, of course I had never, never, never. 180 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: I didn't even know like how to do it or 181 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: where to start or where to get closed. But I 182 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: just kind of figured it out and it was really 183 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: a crash course, which, by the way, every job I 184 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: do even to this day is figure it out. Where 185 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: is it going to come from, what does this client need? 186 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: Where am I going to get it? How do I 187 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: get it? Of course, this was literally before the internet. Yeah, 188 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: what did you do? Put on an encyclopedia girl, I 189 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: pulled out like the yellow pass. No, I'm not kidding, like, 190 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: oh my god, Like the Internet may have existed, but 191 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: only like NASA used it. You know, it's not like 192 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: you could just google where to get a pair of 193 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: shoes or or you know, like a uniform or or 194 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: some like a nurse costume or you know, you couldn't 195 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: even And I didn't even know what to do at 196 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: your house before you left because you didn't have a 197 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: cell phone. Hell no, I didn't have a cell phone. 198 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: I think I may have had a page. Did you 199 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: have a paper? No? I remember like this this short 200 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: film that I did. It required a nurse's uniform. That's 201 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: why I said nurse. And I was like, where am 202 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: I going to get a nurse's uniform? And I went 203 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: to like a uniform store and I said, could I 204 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: run a nurse's uniform? And they were like, sweetheart, we 205 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: don't rent things. You'd buy things here. And I had 206 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: to go outside and I went to the pay phone. 207 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: There was a giant Yellow Pages hanging from it. And 208 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: I went into the Yellow Pages and looked up uniforms, 209 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: and some kind soul finally said to me, like, I 210 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: think you're what you want is a costume house That 211 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 1: rents for movies. Said, yes, that's what I want, And 212 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: I flipped to a different page and found like, you know, 213 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: costume houses where you can rente costumes from movies. And 214 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean I literally just learned a little bit at 215 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: a time every time. UH learned everything the hard way, basically. Yeah, 216 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: I think that's a's so interesting about both of our 217 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: jobs is every job is so different, Every client is 218 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: so different, every situation is different, everyone's needs are different. 219 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: Even when we're talking about in Austin, it was like 220 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: the weather conditions for instance. I mean those are not 221 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: things that I don't think I had been in a 222 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: situation before that to anticipate something like that. Sure, you, 223 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: but you once you experience it, you learn and you 224 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: do different the next time or whatever. So that's so 225 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: interesting to me. I didn't even know this about you 226 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: that you didn't go to You didn't go to school, 227 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: You just started working, right. So I took a year 228 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: off quote unque, and I remember my my measily little 229 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: class load suffered so badly. Actually, appreciation class was awesome, 230 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: but I didn't even do that well because I remember 231 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: I had to miss the final because I had to work, 232 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: like I was already working, and I was so into 233 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: my job and just loved it so much. And in 234 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: our business you have to take especially at that time 235 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: I was so young. I took every single job that 236 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: came my way, and sometimes they come with the last second, 237 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: so you have to drop everything and just do anything. 238 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: And so I missed so much school because I was 239 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: were not up to part of it. Oh my god. 240 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: Actually I made the most amazing shoe out of clay. 241 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: It was Adida Shelter again the nineties. It was in 242 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: Adida Shelter. I'm gonna take a picture of it, Incid. 243 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: It's super friend. I was really I was good at it. 244 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: But I remember like I got an A on that, 245 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: but then I got like an F on the next 246 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: project because I wasn't there. I just messed it all together, 247 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: you know. So so you know, it became pretty clear 248 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: to me that my calling was not school. My calling 249 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: was just to get out there in the workforce and 250 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: start my life, which I did and I'm really glad 251 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: I did. So. This is something else I think you 252 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: brought up as really interesting is that you worked for 253 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: free for a while. Like people always asked me, how 254 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: did you get your start? And It's hard for me 255 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: to remember sometimes because I remember at the beginning, I 256 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: got an assistant position, probably like similar to what you got, 257 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: and you just start busting your ass Like I was 258 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: making no money. I was answering phones at a wrestling 259 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: company to pay money. I love that story. And then 260 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: I would get these jobs and you, just like you said, 261 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: figure out as you guy. So how long did you 262 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: kind of work for free before you got where did 263 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: you get your first like a real gig that you 264 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: were like, Okay, maybe this is going to happen. Do 265 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: you remember? Well? I spent the first year I was 266 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: still living in my parents house, and maybe one out 267 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: of every well maybe two out of every ten jobs 268 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: I took, I would get paid a few hundred dollars 269 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: right Like. It wasn't like you were making bank making bank. 270 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: But I didn't need a lot. I was really young, 271 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: so I saved money and my goal was to get 272 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: an apartment, and I actually ended up moving into an 273 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: apartment with my boss at the time, Tim, the guy 274 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: who gave me the job was the art director and 275 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: his girlfriend and I lived in a room. My rent 276 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: was two hundred fifty dollars a month. Wow in l 277 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: a that's like crazy again. A long time ago, now, 278 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: that would be like two right right, my little shoe 279 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: box would have been like um, and I didn't need 280 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: a lot, you know. I was just happy to just 281 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: have my my little room. And you know I ate 282 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: Cereal and top Ramen and God Ramen. I mean I 283 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: still do that once in a while. Maybe it was 284 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: a year the good old days, but um, you know, 285 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: I just hustled and scraped by. You know, I was 286 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: I'm proud to say that I never really had to 287 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: ask anyone for help, and I just did what I 288 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: had to do. You know, I just took like even 289 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: low paying jobs, you get five low paying jobs, it 290 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: amounts to a little something. And you know, I didn't 291 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: spend any money on clothes. Every single thing I bought 292 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: was from a thrift store, which was cooler anyway. I 293 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: was gonna say, that's your style anyway, that's my style anyways. 294 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: Like like you said, I live in vintage T shirts 295 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: and I have three pair of jeans that I rotate, 296 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: and that's the way I like it anyway. Um So 297 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: I just made it work. When when, when? Where? What 298 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: was I guess would be the question, what was your 299 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: first gig that you've really felt like, Okay, I'm a stylist. 300 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm starting to move in that direction of making this 301 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: a career. Well okay, so I started assisting people. I 302 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: had some really great mentors. Some of them taught me 303 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: a lot about how to do my job. Some taught 304 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: me a lot to not do my job. Um. But 305 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: I had one um mentor named Arian Phillips is a 306 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: huge stylist and costume designer like Oscar nominated costume designer 307 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: and a stylist. Did you meet her? Just through? You know? 308 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: It's like this job is like you meet one person. 309 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: They introduce you to one person, and then that person says, oh, 310 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: you need to meet this person. Then you meet this 311 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: person and they say meet that person. So. Um. I 312 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: worked with a producer on a music video, a Casey 313 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: and Joe Joe music video. My god, I used to 314 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: love Yes Girl and he was the producer. I'm sorry, 315 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: you just gave me such a flashback. I used to 316 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: Explorer where I had a Zach Morris like. I thought 317 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: I was so cool and would jam out to Casey 318 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: and Jojo. They were good. So I can't believe you 319 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: worked on a video I worked on a few of 320 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: the videos, I cannot remember a single name, and if 321 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: he gave me a multiple choice, I could figure it out. 322 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: But anyway, the producer on one of their videos was 323 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: um nice guy named Jim and he I just got 324 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: to talking to him one day and I said, you know, 325 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: I really want to one day assist Arianne Phillips. And 326 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: he said, oh my god, she's my roommate because because 327 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: there was like a short list of stylists and I 328 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: really admired and she was on the list. And so 329 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: we got to talking. I told him, you know, she 330 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: was on my list, and he said, oh my god, 331 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: I'll introduce you to her. So he did, and we 332 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: hit it off, and she hired me and I worked 333 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: as her assistant for a long time and that was 334 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: like my master's program really, you know, working with her. 335 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: She works with a lot of big people. We worked 336 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: with Madonna, Madonna and uh Justin. Timberlake hired her to 337 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: style him when he broke out from mincenc and was 338 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: doing this thing. Okay, so this is like his first 339 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: first album cover. Yeah, So he hired ari and I 340 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: was assisting her, and you know, she was super duper busy. 341 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: She has the list of her A list clients is like, 342 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 1: you know, it's just too long to even name. So 343 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: I ended up taking on a lot of the responsibility 344 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: with Justin and traveling with him when he was doing 345 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: album promotion, and you know, I would be on set 346 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: with him if she had to go somewhere else, and um, 347 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, eventually she kind of got a little too 348 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: busy to be his too. I mean, he had so 349 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: much going on. He was like, he hit it so hard, 350 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: he had so much going on, he needed so much styling. 351 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: And eventually, I mean, the level of generosity of this woman, 352 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: she basically said, if you need to, if you want 353 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: to style him, go ahead, I mean, really magnanimous of her. 354 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: Most people would not do that, especially someone who's exploding. 355 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: Is that's as as a freelance person like we are, 356 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: when you see someone's career taking off, you want to 357 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: stick with him because that means consistent work for you, 358 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: and it's it's just going to keep coming. You gotta 359 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: roll with it. Yeah, I mean, so that was amazing, 360 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: And so didn't you at that point when she kind 361 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: of handed him over You went on the road with 362 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: him and went on the road with him. Yeah, I 363 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: went on tour with him on his first tour, and 364 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: we were traveling doing all kinds of you know, album 365 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: press and going to all these different countries and and 366 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: it was such a great time. And it just kind 367 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: of happened really naturally that I made the transition to 368 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: styling him, and I've been working with him like on 369 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: and off ever since. I mean that wash how about 370 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: two thousand one two two? Still my favorite Justine album? 371 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: Such a great album, so good. Okay, So earlier today 372 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: I posted on Instagram and asked some of my followers, like, 373 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 1: what do they want to know from you? So I'm 374 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: gonna ask you some of those questions. Okay, okay, So okay, 375 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: this one I love because I think this is probably 376 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have a funny story. But what's the 377 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: most awkward situation you've been in wild styling a celebrity? Well, okay, 378 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: I remember one time, a long, long time ago when 379 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: I was assisting Arian Phillips and we were on a 380 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: promo tour with Madonna, who I adore. By the way, 381 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: I need to pause before you answer the question. I 382 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: need to know a little more about Madonna. Is this 383 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: like an amazing She's awesome she's like an icon. She's 384 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: so awesome. Is she as brilliant creatively as I think 385 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: she is? Probably more? Really, she's just the badst that 386 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: works all the time. Beyond badass, I mean badasses, not 387 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: even suffice. Wow, she's a boss for sure. Yeah, super smart, creative, 388 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: just one of the smartest people would ever meet. Yeah, 389 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: she's just the best. Yeah, okay, continue. So you're with Arian. 390 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: I had just started working with them, with Arian and Madonna, 391 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: and we were on this promo tour. I was very young. Yeah, 392 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: I literally had just started. I was like very green 393 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: to say. I had a little experience, but not a 394 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: ton of experience. And I was in a situation where 395 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: Madonna wanted to try something on and Aria wasn't around, 396 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: so I had to settle the clothes out myself. And 397 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: I was terrified because I wanted to do a good job, 398 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, I set everything up and 399 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: I was trying to like think one step ahead of everything, 400 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: and I wanted to do like a really amazing job. 401 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: And she walks in the room. She says, um, Okay, 402 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: where's the mirror? And it was like, you know, when 403 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: you're experience something shocked, you're experiencing something shocking and like 404 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: a wave, like a rush of fear. Just it starts 405 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: at your forehead and goes all the way down to 406 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: your toes. I'm nodding my head because yes. And you're like, 407 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: uh yeah, oh my god, her insides and your outside 408 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: have to look completely different. And that's right. You're like, 409 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: stay calm, and stay calm, stay calm. Yeah. Anyway, I 410 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: forgot the mirror and I remember saying to her like, 411 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry there's not a mirror in her yet. 412 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: That was an oversight on my part. And she said 413 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: something like yeah, I'll say oh. And I was like, 414 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean she was right, you know, and and and 415 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, I remained calm and I figured it out, 416 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: and you know, she was really cool about it. But 417 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: it was like a really tense moment there for a second. 418 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: How could she how did she even try and close 419 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: if she couldn't see them? Well, she couldn't. I feel 420 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: like she had to go back out and do her 421 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: sound check and then come back later. And you know, 422 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: I did not I'm wasting this woman's time. It's freaking Madonna, 423 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, thank god, she was great 424 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: about it, but oh my God. Yeah, the Madonna is 425 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: not the person that I wanna be on my own 426 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: with for my first job. Like that is like, I mean, 427 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: I was just very green, and you know, I was 428 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: just trying. So she could see that I was trying 429 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: really hard, and so of course that that was very 430 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: kind of her to be kill about it. Well, all 431 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: these years later, we still work together sometimes, so something right, Yes, Okay, 432 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: what's your love this one? What's your biggest pet? People 433 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: in the red carpet? Oh? So many? You and I 434 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: talk all day about this. All we talk about every 435 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: Red carpet is like our gossip sets. Oh my god. 436 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: All we do is sit there and judge everyone. I know, 437 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: it's really rude of us. But here's the thing. You know, 438 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: everyone's working hard, and everyone's doing their and everyone's wearing 439 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: what they is what makes them happy, which is great, right, 440 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: That's true. As long as you feel good, that's really 441 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: what red carpet and stuff should be about. The only 442 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: thing that really upsets me is when things don't fit properly. 443 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: Like even if something's like a crazy outfit that I 444 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: would never she for my clients, or you know, if 445 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: it's something really wacky're out there If someone's owning it, 446 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: that's awesome totally. If it doesn't fit right, that's not okay. Okay, 447 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: So the tailoring, that's a big thing. It's all about Taylor. Yeah, 448 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: so okay, this one is This one's really good. How 449 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: do you stay stylish on a budget? I think that's 450 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: really easy. Actually, I think it's easier then. I actually 451 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: think it's easier to be stylish with very little budget 452 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: than with like all the money in the world. In 453 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: a way, I guess you did mention thrift store stores 454 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: earlier when you were talking about when you were broke starting. Okay, 455 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: so what else? Um, first of all, you could go 456 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: to top Man and get the coolest outfit ever for yourself. 457 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: I love top Man. I love top Man. When there's 458 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: top Shop for girls, of course, top Shop for girls. Yeah, 459 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: I mean this is more our conversation is more skewed 460 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: towards men because that's what I do. But um, top 461 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: shops great too, top shops awesome for girls. I think 462 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, you're like, I don't wear it, 463 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 1: but no, it's great, it's great, it's good. But if 464 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: you want to be stylish, I mean, first of all, 465 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: style is mostly about fit and proportion more than anything else. 466 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: If you're a guy and you want to look cool, 467 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: get like the get a great T shirt that fits 468 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: you properly, and a couple of great pair of jeans 469 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: and Chuck tailors, and you have a good outfit. I mean, 470 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: you can keep your style really really simpue. Just keep 471 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: it simple. There really is no other staple to me 472 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: that's more important than a really good pair of jeans 473 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: because how many times do you wear this over and 474 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: over and over and it works in so many different ways. Yep. 475 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 1: If you have a good pair of jeans, you can 476 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: wear with a T shirt, you can wear with a 477 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: nice blazer and yeah, you know. I just think if 478 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: you want to have a good stylish closet, you really 479 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: only need like five things. You don't need to be 480 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: super on trend or wearing exactly what's in right now. 481 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: You can have a few of those things, and I 482 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 1: think those things are good. But who can keep up 483 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: with that? Who wants to keep up with that? Especially 484 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: if you're a guy. So it's more about keeping it 485 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: simple and just finding a really good stuff. Yes, shirts, basics, 486 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: make sure that that stuff fits you properly, right if 487 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: it fits you properly, people are gonna think you look 488 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: good and they won't even realize why. Yeah, it's just 489 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: if you wear an outfit that fits you properly, it's 490 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: going to be pleasing to the eye in general. Yeah, 491 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: I never thought about that. And so don't be afraid 492 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: to wear clothes that fit you. Okay, okay, that's a 493 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: really good Guys get afraid sometimes to wear clothes that 494 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: fit them, especially tight jeans. I watch you battle with 495 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: a lot of but whenever they get on, I'm like, 496 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, you look so hot. They literally do. 497 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing is you always convinced Darks, for instance, 498 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: to put on a tighter a little bit of a 499 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: tight and he has a great figure, like he works 500 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: out all the time, so he should be wearing tight jeans. 501 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: I know all the women appreciate you. You're welcome, ladies 502 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: have It just takes people a minute to adjust to 503 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: something new, especially guys. You know, they get really comfortable 504 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: wearing a certain thing. Yeah, you know, it's it's nerve racking. 505 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: Were something different, and then people notice, and sometimes even 506 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: if they're complimentary, it's still embarrassing. Oh my god, Oh 507 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, Okay, this one's hilarious. It just goes 508 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: to show how much well one that I talked about 509 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: this on my inste stories and too that my followers 510 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: just know me, and this is what they asked. You're 511 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: going to appreciate this. Have you ever styled Taylor Kitch? 512 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: And you think that he and I would be a 513 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: match made in heaven? And then they said, and then 514 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: if so, tell her to say, if I could, I would, 515 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: I swear. Well, the thing that's so funny about all this, 516 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: and I don't think people understand I've told this story 517 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: a little bit. But do you remember we just did 518 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: these movie promos Stirks. So when we were with Dirks 519 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: when was this less than six months ago? For the 520 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: movie Only the Brave? He wrote the song for it, 521 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: Taylor Kitches in this movie. Yes, so we were on 522 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: every red carpet with him. You knew his groom? Yes, 523 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: I've never to answered your question. I've never styled him. Now. 524 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: I actually don't know whose stylist is. They do a 525 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: great job. Yeah he was. It's awesome. And um, I 526 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: am friends with his groom or Christine Nelly, and she 527 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: adores him and she says he's the nicest guy ever, 528 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: and what I wouldn't give to hook him up with you, Kelly. 529 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: The thing is is, I actually don't know if I 530 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: ever want to meet him. We've talked about this. It's 531 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: kind of that thing where you're like, I'd like to 532 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: have a crush and I need my celebrity crush, and 533 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: actually being in the close vicinity with him, I was like, oh, 534 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: I gotta go, but like, actually meet him, it's a 535 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: very unnatural way to meet someone. Oh right, I mean 536 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: in my work, like, you know, ready to work and 537 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: he's on the right carpet. It was just not the 538 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: right It's awkward. I mean, think about Taylor. He's when 539 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: he walks into a room, everyone knows who he is. 540 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: Everyone wants to talk to him. Yeah, and up walks Kelly. 541 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: He doesn't know who she is, but she knows who 542 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: he is. It's awkward. It's very awkward. Actually don't know 543 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: anything about who he is. I know everything about who 544 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: Tim Reggan this, which is the character that I'm in 545 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: love with. So that just goes to show you why 546 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I really actually want to meet Taylor. Right, 547 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: Can you just see Tim Riggins? That's not fair to Taylor. No, 548 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to have amazing, but he's not going 549 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: to be Tim Riggins. He's never going to be Tim 550 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: Riggan Skill. Okay, So just to close out, I have 551 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: this segment I like, I'm kind of wanting to start 552 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 1: with this podcast where basically listening to your story in 553 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: your life. I mean, it's so exciting, it's so glamorous. 554 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: You work with Justin, Timberlake, Madonna, all these celebrities, um, 555 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: But you and I talk about this all the time 556 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: because as glamorous as everything seems are, as much as 557 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: social media, which you're not on but most people are, 558 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: can make life seem there's just so much more, and 559 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: there's so much more going on. And something that I 560 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: have experienced with you because we've known each other so long, 561 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: was your battle with cancer last year and that was 562 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: a huge shock and wake up for all of us, 563 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: and so I just kind of wanted to get real 564 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: for a moment and talk just a little bit about 565 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: reality and life and how in the midst of all 566 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: this glamorous, amazing stuff, how you balance at all, and 567 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: how you kind of bring it back around full circle 568 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: to really focus on growing and becoming a better person 569 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: because I know that's what's really important to you. Tube, 570 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: So okay, talk is through the whole thing that happened. 571 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: I remember when you emailed me about this and you 572 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: were like, hey, I've got breast cancer. Yeah, so what happened? Like, 573 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: how did you even find out what? We'll just give 574 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: you the reader's digestions, so sum it up for us. 575 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: I found a lump myself, so I would encourage every 576 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 1: woman out there to get to know your body and 577 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: do your own breast exams. That's how I found it. Um. 578 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: I was on the birth control pill for a long 579 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: time and I decided to go off of it. I 580 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: was forty years old, and my doctor said, you know, 581 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: you've been it alone time. Maybe you should give your 582 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: body a break. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. 583 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: And he said and and by the way, you should 584 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: start getting mamograms your forty I said, okay, yeah whatever, 585 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: got the prescription for the mamogram, threw it on my 586 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: desk and think twice about it, and went off the pill. 587 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: Two and a half weeks later, I find a lump. 588 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: It was like one day I had no lump, the 589 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: next day I had a lump. And you know, I'm 590 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: convinced it had something to do with my pill. I 591 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: think my hormones just went crazy. I'm sure it had 592 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: been there a long time. And maybe, you know, when 593 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: my hormone started changing after I went off the pill, 594 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: maybe it made it worse. I don't know, um, but 595 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: I know that my pill had something to do with it. 596 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: So I would encourage everyone to not mess with your hormones, ladies. 597 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, that was a huge shock. Went to the doctor, 598 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: had biopsies. It's cancer huge. I mean to say it's 599 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: a shock, obviously is an understatement. You know. I was 600 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: not expecting that. I'm really young, you know, oh my gosh, 601 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: considered very young to have breast cancer. And up until 602 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: that time, I wasn't really balancing my life very well. 603 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: I was working super super hard. When I was diagnosed, 604 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: I had to stop and really think about my life. 605 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: Had to really change everything, you know, and also what 606 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: I do for a living and what you do for 607 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: a living too. It's really you have to give a 608 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: lot of your stunic. You know, you really are taking 609 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: care of people all the time. You know, I'm very 610 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: much caretaker. I think you are too. In my personal 611 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: life and my work life. You know, make sure everything's 612 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: perfect for everybody. You know, nobody has to ask for anything. 613 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: Your step ahead of everyone all the time, and then 614 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: it takes a toll on you. You You don't even realize it. 615 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: And so I finally had to stop and say, Okay, 616 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: it's time to take care of myself. That was something 617 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: I had to learn how to do. Yeah, I really 618 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: didn't know how to do it at forty years old. 619 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: At forty years old, I really never learned how to 620 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: take care of myself. And in a way not to 621 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: sound cheesier cliche, but it was really blessing, you know, 622 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: because my life is so much better now. Yeah, and 623 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: it forced me to take a break from work, like 624 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: I obviously didn't work for a couple of months. I 625 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: mean I had. It all happened super fast. You go, 626 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: like biopsy, Mamma Graham m rr okay your surgeries in 627 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: two weeks. You know. I had two surgeries. I had 628 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: a partial lumpectomy, no, a partial mass actomy slash lumpectomy. 629 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: So they removed the lump, but they had to remove 630 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: like half of one of my breasts and maybe not half, 631 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: maybe a third, but still, yeah, I had to have 632 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: two surgeries to do it deal. Um, so obviously I 633 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: couldn't work. It was really tough recovery. But um, lucky 634 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: for me, everyone in my life totally rallied and took 635 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: care of me, and it was really great. And I 636 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: just said to myself, I am not going to stress 637 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: anymore about work. I'm just not going to. If I 638 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: find myself stressing, I'm just gonna stop. Andy. Thank you 639 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: for doing this. I now, this was so hard because 640 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: it's way well doing interviews and this kind of thing 641 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: is normally excruciating for me because you're talking about your 642 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: work life and your client. But I love you and 643 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate it so much. Well, I love you even more. 644 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: I love you the most, and that's why I was 645 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: happy to do this. And I totally believe in you 646 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: and support you and think you're amazing. And everyone should 647 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: subscribe to everything you're doing. I don't know how to 648 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: subscribe to most of the things do you do, but 649 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: you young people out there, subscribe away. I encourage you 650 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: to follow Kelly and all of her endeavors. I love you. Um, okay, 651 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: you guys, I'm gonna do a recap on bobbot Says 652 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: dot com you can see that this week and Annie again, 653 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much pleasure, We have so much to come. 654 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening. Bye,