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Speaker 1: Swear to God and the Special Counsel. I was supposed

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Speaker 1: offense associated press reporting that based on two people familiar

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Speaker 1: the La Fare Stormy Daniels and was able to get

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Speaker 1: as many as thirty four different counts in an indictment

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Speaker 1: from his grand jury. The premise of elevating it from

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Speaker 1: had to have been a crime committed to enable a

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Speaker 1: us back to the speculation that the second crime would

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Speaker 1: The ever reliable Ryan Goodman of Just Security suggested those

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Speaker 1: as to convert his payoff to Daniels into a legal

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Speaker 1: reason to believe from is onto something here. CBS had

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Speaker 1: reported Thursday that Bragg had procured communications and documents that

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Speaker 1: Whatever reality verifies or disproves, we know this much. Trump

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Speaker 1: What's happened to Tommy Chong? What about Tommy Chong? Wote

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Speaker 1: somebody please think of Tommy Chong. Most of the Trump

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Speaker 1: Days one at five thirty three Eastern Friday afternoon, swerved

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Speaker 1: they've gone too far, Trump wrote Friday afternoon, indicting a

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Speaker 1: election interference. How much more are American patriots expected to

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Speaker 1: the use of the phrase American patriots long ago became

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Speaker 1: stories indicating that lots of New York City prosecutors have

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Speaker 1: In one of those one hundred plus social media posts,

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Speaker 1: we must protest this unconstitutional witch hunt. And to be fair,

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Speaker 1: Need for stimulation, proneness to boredom, acknowledging that a lot

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Speaker 1: of us get a point or two here, I certainly

427
00:29:03,235 --> 00:29:06,235
Speaker 1: do not. All of those jobs were their fault. Let

428
00:29:06,315 --> 00:29:09,075
Speaker 1: me first quote the introduction from Trump's book, Think like

429
00:29:09,155 --> 00:29:12,795
Speaker 1: a billionaire, don't take vacations. What's the point? Have a

430
00:29:12,875 --> 00:29:16,955
Speaker 1: short attention span? Most successful people have very short attention spans.

431
00:29:17,035 --> 00:29:20,635
Speaker 1: It has a lot to do with imagination. Here's some

432
00:29:20,675 --> 00:29:24,035
Speaker 1: of a wide ranging businesses. Trump's short attention span has

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00:29:24,115 --> 00:29:29,515
Speaker 1: dragged him into real estate, vitamins, rentals, books, condos, chocolate bars,

434
00:29:29,555 --> 00:29:34,115
Speaker 1: golf courses, pro football, beauty pageants, stakes, board games, television, hosting,

435
00:29:34,155 --> 00:29:40,075
Speaker 1: bottled water, universities, men's where professional wrestling, mortgages, airlines, fragrances,

436
00:29:40,155 --> 00:29:44,755
Speaker 1: coffee restaurants, energy drinks, vodka, search engines your analysis, and

437
00:29:44,915 --> 00:29:48,515
Speaker 1: of course bicycle racing, the tour to Trump, in which

438
00:29:48,515 --> 00:29:53,875
Speaker 1: contestants raced three hundred laps around his ego. And then

439
00:29:53,915 --> 00:29:56,195
Speaker 1: we have the whole President thing that happened after I

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00:29:56,235 --> 00:30:00,915
Speaker 1: wrote this. Points awarded two running scores six out of six.

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00:30:02,835 --> 00:30:09,275
Speaker 1: Topic four pathologic lying June eighteenth at the Woodlands in Texas. Quote.

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00:30:09,315 --> 00:30:13,475
Speaker 1: If some of those wonderful people had guns strapped right here,

443
00:30:13,675 --> 00:30:15,835
Speaker 1: right to their waist or right to their ankle, and

444
00:30:15,915 --> 00:30:18,075
Speaker 1: this son of a bitch comes out and starts shooting,

445
00:30:18,195 --> 00:30:19,955
Speaker 1: and one of the people in that room happened to

446
00:30:19,955 --> 00:30:22,915
Speaker 1: have it and goes boom, you know what, that would

447
00:30:22,915 --> 00:30:25,915
Speaker 1: have been a beautiful, beautiful site, folks. That would have

448
00:30:25,955 --> 00:30:30,275
Speaker 1: been a beautiful, beautiful sight. June twentieth on Twitter. When

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00:30:30,315 --> 00:30:32,915
Speaker 1: I said that if within the Orlando Club you had

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Speaker 1: some people with guns, I was obviously talking about additional

451
00:30:35,755 --> 00:30:40,515
Speaker 1: guards or employees. Can I stop there or should I

452
00:30:40,555 --> 00:30:44,115
Speaker 1: walk you through the hot and cold running lies? Alternating

453
00:30:44,115 --> 00:30:46,395
Speaker 1: with the admissions of the Times in the nineties, he

454
00:30:46,515 --> 00:30:51,435
Speaker 1: pretended to be his own spokesman John Miller and John Barron,

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00:30:52,195 --> 00:30:56,395
Speaker 1: or any of the twenty seven pants on Fire recognitions

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00:30:56,435 --> 00:30:59,355
Speaker 1: that had been awarded by PolitiFact to Trump for merely

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00:30:59,595 --> 00:31:03,315
Speaker 1: his most egregious lies from the time he announced for

458
00:31:03,355 --> 00:31:09,195
Speaker 1: the presidency through winning the Republican nomination. Points awarded two

459
00:31:09,715 --> 00:31:16,155
Speaker 1: running score eight out of eight. Topic number five conning

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00:31:16,355 --> 00:31:19,955
Speaker 1: slash manipulative. I'm just going to assume this was how

461
00:31:20,035 --> 00:31:24,395
Speaker 1: Trump got Paul Ryan to commit professional Harry Kiri. There

462
00:31:24,435 --> 00:31:28,315
Speaker 1: are many different personality problems which include almost supernatural one

463
00:31:28,515 --> 00:31:34,195
Speaker 1: on one manipulation skills in the Trump cannon see Fools

464
00:31:34,315 --> 00:31:40,395
Speaker 1: mar and Fools Ulderman. Points awarded two, running score ten

465
00:31:40,435 --> 00:31:44,435
Speaker 1: out of ten. Item six on the hair test lack

466
00:31:44,475 --> 00:31:48,355
Speaker 1: of remorse or guilt. Asked about his faith at the

467
00:31:48,515 --> 00:31:52,755
Speaker 1: Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa by the moderator Frank

468
00:31:52,875 --> 00:31:57,235
Speaker 1: Luntz in July of twenty fifteen, Trump said, quote, people

469
00:31:57,235 --> 00:31:59,875
Speaker 1: are so shocked when they find out I am Protestant,

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00:32:00,195 --> 00:32:02,955
Speaker 1: I am Presbyterian, and I go to church and I

471
00:32:03,035 --> 00:32:06,915
Speaker 1: love God and I love my church. Once followed up

472
00:32:06,915 --> 00:32:10,955
Speaker 1: with a softball of literally biblical proportions. He wanted to

473
00:32:10,995 --> 00:32:14,155
Speaker 1: know whether Trump has ever asked God for forgiveness for

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00:32:14,195 --> 00:32:17,795
Speaker 1: his own actions. Quote, I'm not sure I have. I

475
00:32:17,915 --> 00:32:19,555
Speaker 1: just go on and try to do a better job

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00:32:19,595 --> 00:32:21,795
Speaker 1: from there. I don't think so. I think if I

477
00:32:21,915 --> 00:32:24,435
Speaker 1: do something wrong, I think I just try and make

478
00:32:24,475 --> 00:32:28,475
Speaker 1: it right. I don't bring God into that picture. I don't.

479
00:32:29,595 --> 00:32:34,995
Speaker 1: Trump then explained that holy communions sufficed for that, quoting again,

480
00:32:35,275 --> 00:32:37,555
Speaker 1: when I drink my little wine, which is about the

481
00:32:37,595 --> 00:32:39,835
Speaker 1: only wine I drank, and I have my little cracker,

482
00:32:40,155 --> 00:32:42,395
Speaker 1: I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness,

483
00:32:42,435 --> 00:32:44,595
Speaker 1: and I do that as often as possible because I

484
00:32:44,595 --> 00:32:49,195
Speaker 1: feel cleansed. I think in terms of let's go on

485
00:32:49,275 --> 00:32:53,835
Speaker 1: and let's make it right, the art of the deal. Indeed,

486
00:32:55,035 --> 00:32:58,475
Speaker 1: Trump picked up the thread with Jake Tapper in January

487
00:32:58,515 --> 00:33:02,555
Speaker 1: of twenty sixteen. Again, the subject was religion. I like

488
00:33:02,715 --> 00:33:05,555
Speaker 1: to be good. I don't like to have to ask

489
00:33:05,675 --> 00:33:09,795
Speaker 1: for forgiveness. Tapper then asked about a rival, presumed to

490
00:33:09,835 --> 00:33:12,755
Speaker 1: be Ted Cruz, who was conducting field research into the

491
00:33:12,795 --> 00:33:16,475
Speaker 1: efficacy of questioning Trump's religious convictions as part of his

492
00:33:16,555 --> 00:33:20,395
Speaker 1: campaign against Trump. Trump said he shouldn't be doing that.

493
00:33:20,555 --> 00:33:25,675
Speaker 1: Very unethical. Within a few weeks, Trump attacked Cruiz's religious

494
00:33:25,675 --> 00:33:29,795
Speaker 1: convictions instead, On February twelfth, he tweeted, how can Ted

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00:33:29,835 --> 00:33:33,115
Speaker 1: Cruze be an evangelical Christian when he lies so much

496
00:33:33,155 --> 00:33:37,715
Speaker 1: and is so dishonest. You shouldn't talk about religion. You

497
00:33:37,715 --> 00:33:41,715
Speaker 1: shouldn't talk about my religion. Not a week after that,

498
00:33:41,835 --> 00:33:45,675
Speaker 1: Pope Francis answered a question about Trump's overall tone in

499
00:33:45,715 --> 00:33:48,435
Speaker 1: the campaign and said a person who thinks only about

500
00:33:48,475 --> 00:33:52,675
Speaker 1: building walls wherever they may be and not building bridges

501
00:33:53,595 --> 00:33:59,755
Speaker 1: is not Christian. Within hours, Trump responded by slamming the Pope.

502
00:34:00,275 --> 00:34:03,395
Speaker 1: He fantasized about an ISIS attack on the Vatican that

503
00:34:03,475 --> 00:34:07,115
Speaker 1: only he could stop, and he concluded this remarkable circle

504
00:34:07,155 --> 00:34:10,315
Speaker 1: of the illogic by writing, for a religious leader to

505
00:34:10,395 --> 00:34:15,675
Speaker 1: question a person's faith is disgraceful. He's a religious leader.

506
00:34:15,995 --> 00:34:18,155
Speaker 1: Who's going to question a person's faith? If not a

507
00:34:18,235 --> 00:34:22,675
Speaker 1: religious leader? Huh? And this was right after trumpet question

508
00:34:22,715 --> 00:34:25,915
Speaker 1: a person's faith, after he twice admitted that his faith

509
00:34:26,115 --> 00:34:29,315
Speaker 1: included the option to not ask forgiveness and to not

510
00:34:29,475 --> 00:34:33,635
Speaker 1: bring God into that picture, and just four months before

511
00:34:33,635 --> 00:34:35,915
Speaker 1: he would go back to the well and question Hillary

512
00:34:35,955 --> 00:34:41,635
Speaker 1: Clinton's religious faith. Points awarded two running score twelve out

513
00:34:41,635 --> 00:34:48,515
Speaker 1: of twelve, item number seven on the hair Psychopathy checklist,

514
00:34:49,195 --> 00:34:53,075
Speaker 1: shallow affect. Now, I had to have this one thoroughly

515
00:34:53,115 --> 00:34:56,355
Speaker 1: explained to me by my analyst friend. In some its

516
00:34:56,435 --> 00:35:00,635
Speaker 1: tone deafness when it comes to explaining relationships between people.

517
00:35:00,715 --> 00:35:03,915
Speaker 1: For instance, if somebody got up on stage for the

518
00:35:03,915 --> 00:35:07,515
Speaker 1: sake of arguments, say it's Billy Joel at Madison Square Garden,

519
00:35:07,835 --> 00:35:11,635
Speaker 1: and Billy Joel insulted you by sarcastically dedicating to you

520
00:35:11,715 --> 00:35:14,675
Speaker 1: his song the Entertainer as a way of saying you

521
00:35:14,715 --> 00:35:18,675
Speaker 1: weren't a leader or a politician even but merely an entertainer.

522
00:35:19,115 --> 00:35:22,835
Speaker 1: You might take umbradge or at least recognize the dig

523
00:35:23,275 --> 00:35:27,035
Speaker 1: or complain that Billy only sings the same twelve songs

524
00:35:27,075 --> 00:35:30,075
Speaker 1: every couple of weeks in every concert he's had for

525
00:35:30,075 --> 00:35:34,075
Speaker 1: forty years. But not if you are suffering from shallow affect,

526
00:35:34,115 --> 00:35:38,195
Speaker 1: you wouldn't quote thank you, Billy Joel. Trump tweeted on

527
00:35:38,275 --> 00:35:40,955
Speaker 1: May twenty seventh. Many friends just told me you gave

528
00:35:40,995 --> 00:35:44,515
Speaker 1: me a very kind shout out at MSG appreciated love

529
00:35:44,555 --> 00:35:49,115
Speaker 1: your music. Another example of shallow affect would be a

530
00:35:49,195 --> 00:35:52,595
Speaker 1: kind of approach to how people influence each other's lives

531
00:35:52,635 --> 00:35:57,275
Speaker 1: that could be diagrammed as event B followed event A.

532
00:35:58,155 --> 00:36:02,835
Speaker 1: Therefore event A caused event B. If say, a prominent

533
00:36:02,875 --> 00:36:07,515
Speaker 1: athlete ignored you here in some other tangential way interacted

534
00:36:07,555 --> 00:36:11,395
Speaker 1: with you before failing or being injured. With shallow affect,

535
00:36:11,475 --> 00:36:14,715
Speaker 1: you might think in passing that you jinxed him, especially

536
00:36:14,715 --> 00:36:17,275
Speaker 1: if you were still nine or ten years old, but

537
00:36:17,395 --> 00:36:21,795
Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't publicly claim it, not unless you were

538
00:36:21,875 --> 00:36:27,515
Speaker 1: really suffering from shallow affect. Quote Derek Jeter had a

539
00:36:27,555 --> 00:36:32,155
Speaker 1: great career until three days ago. Trump tweeted on October fifteenth,

540
00:36:32,155 --> 00:36:36,715
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, after the former Yankees captain shattered his ankle

541
00:36:36,875 --> 00:36:40,315
Speaker 1: during a playoff game when he sold his apartment at

542
00:36:40,355 --> 00:36:46,635
Speaker 1: Trump World Tower. I told him not to sell karma.

543
00:36:46,875 --> 00:36:50,995
Speaker 1: The answer this chain letter or many ankles will get

544
00:36:51,035 --> 00:36:54,275
Speaker 1: broken theme was not some early passing expression of the

545
00:36:54,315 --> 00:36:59,555
Speaker 1: now familiar syndrome we might describe as TWT tweeting wild

546
00:36:59,595 --> 00:37:03,915
Speaker 1: Trump five days later quote Derek Jeter broke ankle one

547
00:37:03,955 --> 00:37:08,315
Speaker 1: day after old as apartment in Trump World Tower. And

548
00:37:08,475 --> 00:37:11,515
Speaker 1: just to finish this topic off, Another aspect to shallow

549
00:37:11,555 --> 00:37:15,635
Speaker 1: affect would be an unwillingness to acknowledge reliance on others.

550
00:37:15,635 --> 00:37:18,995
Speaker 1: In other words, it's just you. It's always you. It's

551
00:37:19,075 --> 00:37:23,555
Speaker 1: only you. On March sixteenth, Trump was asked about which

552
00:37:23,675 --> 00:37:28,235
Speaker 1: foreign policy consultants he was speaking to. I'm speaking with

553
00:37:28,275 --> 00:37:31,035
Speaker 1: myself number one, because I have a very good brain,

554
00:37:31,355 --> 00:37:35,875
Speaker 1: he said. Seriously, I know what I'm doing, and I

555
00:37:35,915 --> 00:37:37,515
Speaker 1: listen to a lot of people. I talk to a

556
00:37:37,515 --> 00:37:39,875
Speaker 1: lot of people, and at the appropriate time, I'll tell

557
00:37:39,875 --> 00:37:43,595
Speaker 1: you who the people are. But my primary consultant is myself,

558
00:37:43,875 --> 00:37:47,355
Speaker 1: and I have a good instinct for this stuff. On

559
00:37:47,435 --> 00:37:51,115
Speaker 1: June twenty fourth, twenty sixteen, in Scotland, he again described

560
00:37:51,115 --> 00:37:54,715
Speaker 1: his dream consultant, saying he spoke to quote foreign policy

561
00:37:54,755 --> 00:37:57,555
Speaker 1: advisors all the time, but the advice has to come

562
00:37:57,595 --> 00:38:01,355
Speaker 1: for me. The advice has to come from me. Points

563
00:38:01,355 --> 00:38:08,075
Speaker 1: awarded to running score for out of fourteen Item eight

564
00:38:08,355 --> 00:38:13,235
Speaker 1: on the hair Psychopathy checklist callous slash lack of empathy.

565
00:38:14,315 --> 00:38:17,915
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you already know this one. June twelfth, twenty sixteen,

566
00:38:18,235 --> 00:38:21,195
Speaker 1: hours after the last shots were fired at the Pulse

567
00:38:21,235 --> 00:38:25,835
Speaker 1: Club in Orlando, Quote, appreciate the Congrats were being right

568
00:38:25,915 --> 00:38:29,715
Speaker 1: on radical Islamic terrorism. I don't want congrats. I want

569
00:38:29,755 --> 00:38:33,955
Speaker 1: toughness and vigilance. We must be smart. As a reminder,

570
00:38:33,995 --> 00:38:36,755
Speaker 1: you cannot give fifteen hundred points for one item on

571
00:38:36,795 --> 00:38:40,555
Speaker 1: the hair checklist, even if that total is seemingly deserved.

572
00:38:40,915 --> 00:38:46,355
Speaker 1: Points awarded two running score sixteen out of sixteen. Number

573
00:38:46,435 --> 00:38:50,795
Speaker 1: nine parasitic lifestyle. This is not as I originally thought,

574
00:38:50,835 --> 00:38:54,395
Speaker 1: living materially off mom or Dad or others, although that

575
00:38:54,435 --> 00:38:57,275
Speaker 1: can be a minor component, especially if you know, Dad

576
00:38:57,315 --> 00:39:00,435
Speaker 1: gave you a million dollar loan circa nineteen seventy, and

577
00:39:00,475 --> 00:39:02,795
Speaker 1: then you got nine million more from a bank on

578
00:39:02,835 --> 00:39:05,835
Speaker 1: the promise of your inheritance, and ultimately you got about

579
00:39:05,875 --> 00:39:09,035
Speaker 1: forty million upon your father's death, and you considered all

580
00:39:09,075 --> 00:39:12,955
Speaker 1: this just a small start. It has more to do

581
00:39:12,995 --> 00:39:15,835
Speaker 1: with taking credit for the work of others to the

582
00:39:15,875 --> 00:39:20,235
Speaker 1: degree of erasing all record of their contributions and slapping

583
00:39:20,275 --> 00:39:24,035
Speaker 1: your name on their efforts, often in transactions in which

584
00:39:24,035 --> 00:39:27,075
Speaker 1: you are literally renting the use of your name as

585
00:39:27,115 --> 00:39:31,715
Speaker 1: a brand and nothing else. You know, like Trump Palace,

586
00:39:32,355 --> 00:39:37,395
Speaker 1: the Tour to Trump Trump Stakes, Trump taj Mahal, Donald Trump,

587
00:39:37,435 --> 00:39:42,195
Speaker 1: the Fragrance, and of course Castle Trumpula. And just as

588
00:39:42,315 --> 00:39:45,795
Speaker 1: in court, a wife cannot be forced to give evidence

589
00:39:45,835 --> 00:39:50,155
Speaker 1: of parasitic lifestyle against her husband, despite Milania Trump's twenty

590
00:39:50,395 --> 00:39:55,555
Speaker 1: sixteen convention speech, lots of which seemed copied from Michelle

591
00:39:55,595 --> 00:40:02,355
Speaker 1: Obama unless Hubby wrote that speech. Points awarded two, running

592
00:40:02,435 --> 00:40:07,715
Speaker 1: score eighteen out of eighteen. Well done, Donald. Item ten,

593
00:40:07,995 --> 00:40:13,475
Speaker 1: poor behavioral controls, Well, he had poor behavioral controls. But

594
00:40:13,555 --> 00:40:16,475
Speaker 1: everybody agrees he's going to dial it all back this

595
00:40:16,595 --> 00:40:21,475
Speaker 1: time right after he pivots pivots towards dialing it back.

596
00:40:22,395 --> 00:40:29,595
Speaker 1: Right Judge Gonzalo Curiel, right, Don King, Joel Austine, Ben Roethlisberger,

597
00:40:29,635 --> 00:40:31,995
Speaker 1: Pete Rose, or anybody else who Trump claimed that endorsed

598
00:40:32,075 --> 00:40:34,795
Speaker 1: him when they had not, Or the Hispanic ABC reporter

599
00:40:34,835 --> 00:40:38,595
Speaker 1: he'd called a Slee's or the losing Republican presidential hopefuls

600
00:40:38,595 --> 00:40:40,995
Speaker 1: he mocked in a video the day after, insisting he

601
00:40:40,995 --> 00:40:44,475
Speaker 1: would unite the Republican Party, or you know, everybody in

602
00:40:44,475 --> 00:40:50,075
Speaker 1: the world since not twenty seventeen. Points awarded two, running

603
00:40:50,155 --> 00:40:55,355
Speaker 1: score twenty out of twenty. Item eleven on this test

604
00:40:55,635 --> 00:41:00,795
Speaker 1: is promiscuous sexual behavior. And if I ever heard a

605
00:41:00,835 --> 00:41:05,115
Speaker 1: better moment in anything I have ever written to say,

606
00:41:05,635 --> 00:41:10,715
Speaker 1: I'll be back after this. It's eleven. Promiscuous sexual behavior

607
00:41:11,475 --> 00:41:14,395
Speaker 1: I'll finish off the score of Donald Trump on the

608
00:41:14,955 --> 00:41:19,075
Speaker 1: could he pass a Sanity test test right after this

609
00:41:24,635 --> 00:41:27,755
Speaker 1: to resume that piece of work which originally tied me

610
00:41:27,795 --> 00:41:31,555
Speaker 1: to Donald Trump for life, the twenty sixteen Vanity Fair

611
00:41:31,675 --> 00:41:35,275
Speaker 1: article could Trump pass a Sanity Test? We had gotten

612
00:41:35,275 --> 00:41:40,155
Speaker 1: through the first ten points on the hair psychopathy test

613
00:41:40,715 --> 00:41:44,555
Speaker 1: and judging whether or not literally Trump could pass or

614
00:41:44,595 --> 00:41:49,235
Speaker 1: would fail this literal sanity test through ten which was

615
00:41:49,355 --> 00:41:53,395
Speaker 1: poor behavioral controls, he had a running score of twenty

616
00:41:53,395 --> 00:41:57,035
Speaker 1: points out of a possible twenty points. So if you're

617
00:41:57,035 --> 00:41:59,035
Speaker 1: going to wager now on how he did on the

618
00:41:59,075 --> 00:42:03,075
Speaker 1: whole exam, you better get your bets in now, because

619
00:42:03,115 --> 00:42:07,955
Speaker 1: point number eleven on the hair psychopathy exam is promiscuous

620
00:42:08,035 --> 00:42:12,035
Speaker 1: sexual behavior. I've told you this before. When I was

621
00:42:12,075 --> 00:42:15,275
Speaker 1: a young radio sportscaster, I was given the great opportunity

622
00:42:15,315 --> 00:42:18,635
Speaker 1: to interview by telephone a famous athlete who had just

623
00:42:18,715 --> 00:42:21,515
Speaker 1: been suspended from his own sport because he had gone

624
00:42:21,515 --> 00:42:24,955
Speaker 1: to work for casino. The athlete was Willie Mays, and

625
00:42:25,035 --> 00:42:27,955
Speaker 1: he was expecting my call. And this, as near as

626
00:42:27,955 --> 00:42:30,475
Speaker 1: I can remember, it was the transcript of the start

627
00:42:30,515 --> 00:42:34,395
Speaker 1: of the call, ring, ring voice sounding kind of like

628
00:42:34,515 --> 00:42:37,595
Speaker 1: Hattie McDaniel, the Academy Award winning actress from Gone with

629
00:42:37,635 --> 00:42:44,115
Speaker 1: the Wind. Mister Mays's residence. Me Hi. Milton Richmond from

630
00:42:44,155 --> 00:42:46,755
Speaker 1: UPI gave me mister Mays's number and said he would

631
00:42:46,755 --> 00:42:48,515
Speaker 1: be willing to give me a brief interview. May I

632
00:42:48,555 --> 00:42:52,195
Speaker 1: speak with mister Mays? Please? Voice sounding kind of like

633
00:42:52,275 --> 00:42:55,035
Speaker 1: Hattie McDaniel, the Academy Award winning actress from Gone with

634
00:42:55,075 --> 00:42:59,755
Speaker 1: the Wind. Who's calling please me? My name is Keith

635
00:42:59,795 --> 00:43:04,475
Speaker 1: all Ryman from UPI Radio, voice suddenly changing to voice

636
00:43:04,475 --> 00:43:09,955
Speaker 1: of Willie Mays. This is Willie, as silly as the

637
00:43:09,995 --> 00:43:14,035
Speaker 1: story of the whole fake Trump spokesman was. Of course

638
00:43:14,035 --> 00:43:17,795
Speaker 1: he has invisible friends, and of course they are pr

639
00:43:17,915 --> 00:43:22,715
Speaker 1: flax lost in the laughter with three important details. Firstly,

640
00:43:22,755 --> 00:43:25,715
Speaker 1: as my conversation with Willie Mays in nineteen seventy nine

641
00:43:25,755 --> 00:43:30,395
Speaker 1: and his imaginary housekeeper suggests, ordinary people do do this.

642
00:43:31,275 --> 00:43:33,595
Speaker 1: But secondly, when they do it, they usually try to

643
00:43:33,675 --> 00:43:38,635
Speaker 1: disguise their own voice. Thirdly, rarely do they assume other

644
00:43:38,715 --> 00:43:41,955
Speaker 1: identities in order to provide the second component to what

645
00:43:41,995 --> 00:43:47,635
Speaker 1: we categorize as sexual promiscuity. Besides multiple partners, which is

646
00:43:47,875 --> 00:43:54,515
Speaker 1: according to psychiatrists boasting about it nineteen ninety one John Miller,

647
00:43:55,355 --> 00:43:59,755
Speaker 1: Trump spokesman who sounded exactly like Trump talking to Sue Carswell,

648
00:43:59,835 --> 00:44:03,755
Speaker 1: then of people and now of vanity. Fair quote. Trump

649
00:44:04,115 --> 00:44:06,835
Speaker 1: is somebody that has got a lot of options, and frankly,

650
00:44:06,875 --> 00:44:09,955
Speaker 1: he gets called by everybody, gets called by everybody in

651
00:44:09,995 --> 00:44:12,515
Speaker 1: the book. In terms of women, I mean they call,

652
00:44:12,995 --> 00:44:16,235
Speaker 1: they just call. He's living with Marla and he's got

653
00:44:16,275 --> 00:44:21,875
Speaker 1: three other girlfriends. This was before the Access Hollywood video.

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00:44:21,995 --> 00:44:26,075
Speaker 1: By the way, Points awarded two again because we couldn't

655
00:44:26,155 --> 00:44:29,835
Speaker 1: award two million. Running score twenty two out of twenty

656
00:44:29,835 --> 00:44:35,435
Speaker 1: two Category twelve. Early behavior problems. Now, when I was

657
00:44:35,475 --> 00:44:38,795
Speaker 1: a kid, probably four or five, I twice hit a

658
00:44:38,795 --> 00:44:40,715
Speaker 1: friend of mine in the back of the head with

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00:44:40,755 --> 00:44:45,395
Speaker 1: a metal toy I remember shock, blood, but no stitches,

660
00:44:45,715 --> 00:44:50,155
Speaker 1: and family meetings. We talked, and then folks got professional advice,

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00:44:50,315 --> 00:44:53,195
Speaker 1: and they got me into organized sports and into exercise.

662
00:44:53,235 --> 00:44:56,235
Speaker 1: And I quickly realized that just because I was frustrated

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00:44:56,275 --> 00:44:58,555
Speaker 1: with somebody, that was not a good reason to hit

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Speaker 1: them with a toy truck. Regardless. When I had my

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00:45:02,755 --> 00:45:06,675
Speaker 1: analyst friend run the hairs Compathy checklist on me, I

666
00:45:06,755 --> 00:45:10,435
Speaker 1: insisted she give me a point on this because hitting

667
00:45:10,475 --> 00:45:13,035
Speaker 1: a kid in the back of the head with a

668
00:45:13,115 --> 00:45:16,315
Speaker 1: toy truck and then later a magnet was at minimum

669
00:45:16,355 --> 00:45:20,835
Speaker 1: an indicator of the potential for early behavior problems. So

670
00:45:21,115 --> 00:45:23,275
Speaker 1: if you give me a point for that out of

671
00:45:23,275 --> 00:45:25,995
Speaker 1: a possible two points, how many points would you give

672
00:45:26,075 --> 00:45:29,835
Speaker 1: to a child who attacked one of his own teachers.

673
00:45:30,715 --> 00:45:35,235
Speaker 1: Quote I actually gave a teacher a black eye, Trump

674
00:45:35,275 --> 00:45:37,635
Speaker 1: wrote in the Art of the Deal in nineteen eighty seven,

675
00:45:37,915 --> 00:45:42,675
Speaker 1: barely concealing his retroactive glee. He placed the assault in

676
00:45:42,755 --> 00:45:46,915
Speaker 1: the second grade, likely making him seven years old. Quote

677
00:45:46,955 --> 00:45:50,315
Speaker 1: I punched my music teacher because I didn't think he

678
00:45:50,395 --> 00:45:56,115
Speaker 1: knew anything about music, and I almost got expelled. What

679
00:45:56,315 --> 00:46:01,515
Speaker 1: kind of kid punches an adult in the face. I mean,

680
00:46:01,675 --> 00:46:05,315
Speaker 1: think back to being that age you're in the grade.

681
00:46:05,875 --> 00:46:09,195
Speaker 1: The one universal I can recall was that no seven

682
00:46:09,275 --> 00:46:12,995
Speaker 1: year old ever dreamt of trying to physically take on

683
00:46:13,035 --> 00:46:16,515
Speaker 1: an adult, for the simple and unavoidable reason that virtually

684
00:46:16,555 --> 00:46:19,715
Speaker 1: any adult was several times your own weight. If you

685
00:46:19,835 --> 00:46:21,995
Speaker 1: picked the wrong adult, they might do more than just

686
00:46:22,075 --> 00:46:25,755
Speaker 1: defend themselves. Even knocking an adult down could be an

687
00:46:25,755 --> 00:46:30,555
Speaker 1: exercising self destruction if he fell on you. The most

688
00:46:30,675 --> 00:46:34,595
Speaker 1: reality challenged of my classmates, the kid who once ran

689
00:46:34,955 --> 00:46:38,875
Speaker 1: headfirst into the side of a moving school bus for

690
00:46:38,955 --> 00:46:42,955
Speaker 1: reasons that still remain unclear nine presidents later. He would

691
00:46:42,995 --> 00:46:47,675
Speaker 1: never have hit an adult. There is a second version

692
00:46:47,715 --> 00:46:50,395
Speaker 1: of the same story from a Trump biographer. He did

693
00:46:50,595 --> 00:46:53,675
Speaker 1: indeed give the teacher a black eye, but not with

694
00:46:53,755 --> 00:46:57,115
Speaker 1: a punch. He threw an eraser at the teacher and

695
00:46:57,235 --> 00:47:02,075
Speaker 1: hit him just right. Well, because that's way better, huh. Regardless,

696
00:47:02,155 --> 00:47:04,955
Speaker 1: the version Trump tells is of the four foot tall

697
00:47:05,115 --> 00:47:08,235
Speaker 1: edition of himself punching what was at least a five

698
00:47:08,315 --> 00:47:11,755
Speaker 1: foot tall adult in the eye, hard enough to give

699
00:47:11,795 --> 00:47:15,955
Speaker 1: the man a shiner. The only argument against calling this

700
00:47:16,115 --> 00:47:19,035
Speaker 1: early behavior problems is that the first word implies that

701
00:47:19,075 --> 00:47:26,195
Speaker 1: it stopped at some point. Points awarded again two running

702
00:47:26,235 --> 00:47:31,635
Speaker 1: score twenty four out of twenty four, number thirteen lack

703
00:47:31,755 --> 00:47:37,875
Speaker 1: of realistic long term goals here the streak ended so far,

704
00:47:37,995 --> 00:47:41,795
Speaker 1: mister Trump has theoretically aced our exam, which is not

705
00:47:41,835 --> 00:47:46,395
Speaker 1: a good thing. But reality now invades our idyllic scene.

706
00:47:47,275 --> 00:47:50,115
Speaker 1: There could be a thousand things psychologically wrong with the

707
00:47:50,155 --> 00:47:52,955
Speaker 1: process by which Trump ends up with a low score.

708
00:47:52,995 --> 00:47:54,955
Speaker 1: On this one. I mean, in the big picture, you

709
00:47:54,995 --> 00:47:59,275
Speaker 1: would have never thought Mussolini was less crazy just because

710
00:47:59,275 --> 00:48:02,555
Speaker 1: he left Italy for Switzerland in nineteen o two in

711
00:48:02,635 --> 00:48:06,635
Speaker 1: part to avoid military service, and exactly twenty years later

712
00:48:06,675 --> 00:48:10,355
Speaker 1: he became head of the Italian state and often dressed

713
00:48:10,435 --> 00:48:14,955
Speaker 1: up in a military uniform. But tests or tests, and

714
00:48:15,035 --> 00:48:18,835
Speaker 1: if you say this guy Trump so lacks realistic long

715
00:48:18,955 --> 00:48:21,515
Speaker 1: term goals that he thinks he can become president and

716
00:48:21,595 --> 00:48:24,835
Speaker 1: he winds up with the nomination of a major party.

717
00:48:25,195 --> 00:48:30,075
Speaker 1: The long term goals turned out to be not that unrealistic. Huh. Still,

718
00:48:30,115 --> 00:48:33,075
Speaker 1: he gets only partial credit here because once again he

719
00:48:33,195 --> 00:48:37,275
Speaker 1: boasts about having the very thing psychology says is a

720
00:48:37,315 --> 00:48:41,515
Speaker 1: warning sign in the preface to think like a billionaire,

721
00:48:41,875 --> 00:48:47,955
Speaker 1: Trump quotes author Richard Kniff. Almost all successful alpha personalities

722
00:48:48,155 --> 00:48:52,235
Speaker 1: display a single minded determination to impose their vision on

723
00:48:52,315 --> 00:48:58,315
Speaker 1: the world, an irrational belief in unreasonable goals, bordering sometimes

724
00:48:58,675 --> 00:49:04,115
Speaker 1: on lunacy. By the way, I get a point here too.

725
00:49:04,715 --> 00:49:07,875
Speaker 1: It's one of my four or five points because I've

726
00:49:07,875 --> 00:49:11,275
Speaker 1: always thought I would make a great Prime Minister of

727
00:49:11,315 --> 00:49:16,235
Speaker 1: the United Kingdom. I have never been to the United Kingdom.

728
00:49:16,435 --> 00:49:21,355
Speaker 1: Points awarded one running score twenty five out of twenty

729
00:49:21,355 --> 00:49:26,075
Speaker 1: six editors Note number one. When I wrote this in

730
00:49:26,115 --> 00:49:29,235
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, I gave Trump one point because I knew

731
00:49:29,235 --> 00:49:31,875
Speaker 1: that while he had breeze to the Republican nomination, there

732
00:49:31,915 --> 00:49:35,395
Speaker 1: was no way it would actually become president. So if

733
00:49:35,435 --> 00:49:38,355
Speaker 1: you hadn't heard, he did become president. So I have

734
00:49:38,435 --> 00:49:41,075
Speaker 1: to take this point away. I mean, becoming president cannot

735
00:49:41,075 --> 00:49:43,955
Speaker 1: be considered an unrealistic long term goal if you become

736
00:49:44,035 --> 00:49:47,315
Speaker 1: freaking president, no matter how you did it, no matter

737
00:49:47,355 --> 00:49:51,635
Speaker 1: which country did it for you. So his score reverts

738
00:49:51,675 --> 00:49:54,195
Speaker 1: to twenty four out of twenty six, and I'll use

739
00:49:54,235 --> 00:49:56,755
Speaker 1: that corrected score going forward, all right, back to the

740
00:49:56,755 --> 00:50:03,675
Speaker 1: original piece fourteen impulsivity. Impulsivity is like the old judicial

741
00:50:03,675 --> 00:50:06,475
Speaker 1: definition of porta. You may not be able to define it,

742
00:50:06,515 --> 00:50:08,235
Speaker 1: but you're supposed to know it when you see it.

743
00:50:09,075 --> 00:50:13,035
Speaker 1: Even the Wall Street Journal editorial board, which seems not

744
00:50:13,115 --> 00:50:16,755
Speaker 1: to have approved of anything newer than Napoleon, took it

745
00:50:16,835 --> 00:50:21,235
Speaker 1: for granted that Trump defines the word impulsive. It wrote

746
00:50:21,315 --> 00:50:25,035
Speaker 1: on June first, twenty sixteen. Mister Trump needs to convince

747
00:50:25,155 --> 00:50:28,995
Speaker 1: millions of skeptical voters that he's more than an impulsive

748
00:50:29,115 --> 00:50:32,195
Speaker 1: bully who poses too big a risk in the oval

749
00:50:32,235 --> 00:50:38,315
Speaker 1: office unquote. Yet one man's impulsiveness might be another's recognition

750
00:50:38,355 --> 00:50:41,715
Speaker 1: of the perfect moment to act. Former colleague of mine

751
00:50:41,755 --> 00:50:44,235
Speaker 1: met a woman on a date proposed to her a

752
00:50:44,235 --> 00:50:48,635
Speaker 1: week later. She immediately said yes. Were they being impulsive

753
00:50:48,715 --> 00:50:52,355
Speaker 1: or just visionary? What about my other colleague who met

754
00:50:52,355 --> 00:50:55,155
Speaker 1: a woman on a date proposed to her the next day?

755
00:50:55,835 --> 00:50:58,875
Speaker 1: She took a day to think about it and said yes.

756
00:51:00,355 --> 00:51:05,035
Speaker 1: The first couple have now been married for thirty six years.

757
00:51:05,755 --> 00:51:12,235
Speaker 1: The second couple got it annulled at about thirty six hours. Impulsiveness,

758
00:51:12,355 --> 00:51:15,435
Speaker 1: as we layman use it tends to be results based

759
00:51:15,755 --> 00:51:20,195
Speaker 1: and devolves rapidly into twenty twenty hindsight. But in March

760
00:51:20,315 --> 00:51:24,715
Speaker 1: of twenty sixteen, writing in Psychology Today, doctor Glenn Gayhor

761
00:51:25,355 --> 00:51:28,875
Speaker 1: offered a different definition of impulsiveness. It's not necessarily the

762
00:51:28,875 --> 00:51:33,515
Speaker 1: same as rashness or it's positive twin quick thinking. True

763
00:51:33,595 --> 00:51:40,315
Speaker 1: impulsiveness usually leaves fingerprints of edgy, though not automatically pernicious behavior. Rather,

764
00:51:40,395 --> 00:51:43,315
Speaker 1: it makes one do these things in the wrong place

765
00:51:43,395 --> 00:51:47,355
Speaker 1: at the wrong time, like as mister Gayre was analyzing

766
00:51:47,595 --> 00:51:51,355
Speaker 1: discussing the size of your penis during a presidential debate

767
00:51:53,355 --> 00:51:56,555
Speaker 1: gayor did not include the other examples where the context

768
00:51:56,595 --> 00:51:59,835
Speaker 1: turns the behavior or the language from borderline to impulsive.

769
00:52:00,515 --> 00:52:03,115
Speaker 1: I mean, you might appropriately bring up that topic in

770
00:52:03,235 --> 00:52:07,275
Speaker 1: bed or at a bar. Miniature tailors, like saying a

771
00:52:07,315 --> 00:52:11,395
Speaker 1: female presidential candidate had been schlonged in a primary, like

772
00:52:11,515 --> 00:52:15,395
Speaker 1: criticizing the face of one of your female rivals during speech,

773
00:52:15,835 --> 00:52:20,035
Speaker 1: like crudely referring to a network television figures menstruation while

774
00:52:20,115 --> 00:52:24,875
Speaker 1: on a rival television network like the Hollywood tape. The

775
00:52:25,595 --> 00:52:29,555
Speaker 1: what was that line? Again? Grabbed them by the points

776
00:52:29,675 --> 00:52:33,915
Speaker 1: awarded two running score twenty six out of twenty eight.

777
00:52:35,235 --> 00:52:40,355
Speaker 1: Item fifteen of twenty irresponsibility. This is another seemingly easy

778
00:52:40,435 --> 00:52:42,755
Speaker 1: item that is actually difficult to nail to the wall.

779
00:52:42,955 --> 00:52:48,875
Speaker 1: What is irresponsibility? Not crediting John McCain's heroism because he

780
00:52:48,955 --> 00:52:53,115
Speaker 1: got captured when you yourself avoided the military draft four

781
00:52:53,235 --> 00:52:57,555
Speaker 1: or five times? Is irresponsibility shown by taking a position

782
00:52:57,595 --> 00:53:01,555
Speaker 1: on guns in nightclubs that's so extreme that the president

783
00:53:01,875 --> 00:53:06,355
Speaker 1: and legislative director of the National Goddamn Rifle Association condemned

784
00:53:06,355 --> 00:53:10,555
Speaker 1: It is irresponsibility, at least to the millions of lost

785
00:53:10,635 --> 00:53:13,395
Speaker 1: souls who actually thought you would make a great American

786
00:53:13,435 --> 00:53:18,395
Speaker 1: president rather than merely the last American president to even

787
00:53:18,475 --> 00:53:20,315
Speaker 1: make a joke. If it was a joke that if

788
00:53:20,315 --> 00:53:22,635
Speaker 1: you were offered five billion dollars to drop out of

789
00:53:22,635 --> 00:53:26,275
Speaker 1: the race quote, I guess we'd have to think about it.

790
00:53:26,355 --> 00:53:29,515
Speaker 1: Is the word more applicable or less applicable if it

791
00:53:29,555 --> 00:53:32,435
Speaker 1: comes out the next day that during May your campaign

792
00:53:32,475 --> 00:53:35,755
Speaker 1: spent more than twice as much at businesses you own

793
00:53:36,355 --> 00:53:40,995
Speaker 1: than it did on payroll. The problem with this heading

794
00:53:41,075 --> 00:53:47,435
Speaker 1: irresponsibility is that so much of what fits vaguely into irresponsibility, promiscuity, bankruptcy,

795
00:53:47,755 --> 00:53:50,755
Speaker 1: punching out your teacher when you're a kid, fits like

796
00:53:50,915 --> 00:53:54,595
Speaker 1: jigsaw pieces into the other categories in the hair test.

797
00:53:55,315 --> 00:53:58,395
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean the examples are ineligible, just that they

798
00:53:58,395 --> 00:54:02,355
Speaker 1: are imprecise. But it does mean we have to score conservatively.

799
00:54:02,395 --> 00:54:06,355
Speaker 1: I'm afraid points awarded one running score twenty seven out

800
00:54:06,355 --> 00:54:13,475
Speaker 1: of thirty items. Sixteen failure to accept responsibility for own actions. Again,

801
00:54:14,275 --> 00:54:17,115
Speaker 1: you can't give more than two points in any category.

802
00:54:17,155 --> 00:54:21,555
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Both of my favorite examples here involved interviews

803
00:54:21,555 --> 00:54:25,755
Speaker 1: with The Washington Post. On May twenty fourth, sixteen, Trump

804
00:54:25,795 --> 00:54:28,475
Speaker 1: was caught having not yet donated the money from the

805
00:54:28,635 --> 00:54:32,675
Speaker 1: purported veterans fundraiser that he staged as counter programming to

806
00:54:32,835 --> 00:54:36,835
Speaker 1: the January twenty sixteen Republican primary debate that he bailed

807
00:54:36,915 --> 00:54:40,355
Speaker 1: out of. The Post quoted his remarks at the fundraiser,

808
00:54:40,395 --> 00:54:44,075
Speaker 1: which was televised nationally. We just cracked six million dollars, right,

809
00:54:44,315 --> 00:54:48,275
Speaker 1: six million, Trump replied to The Post, I didn't say

810
00:54:48,315 --> 00:54:54,035
Speaker 1: six The somewhat startled Post staffer said it was on tape.

811
00:54:54,195 --> 00:54:56,755
Speaker 1: Play it for me, Trump replied, because I'd like to

812
00:54:56,795 --> 00:55:00,755
Speaker 1: hear it, the Post reported. Trump then manipulated the conversation

813
00:55:00,835 --> 00:55:03,995
Speaker 1: to another topic, precluding the playing of the video in

814
00:55:04,035 --> 00:55:08,875
Speaker 1: which he six eleven days earlier. The tape of him

815
00:55:08,915 --> 00:55:11,835
Speaker 1: speaking in his own voice but pretending to be spokesman

816
00:55:11,955 --> 00:55:16,275
Speaker 1: John Miller had been revealed when during a phone interview,

817
00:55:16,315 --> 00:55:19,635
Speaker 1: a Washington Post reporter brought up the proof. This time,

818
00:55:19,675 --> 00:55:25,035
Speaker 1: Trump simply hung up. Points awarded to running score twenty

819
00:55:25,075 --> 00:55:31,115
Speaker 1: nine out of thirty two seventeen. Many short term marital

820
00:55:31,235 --> 00:55:36,275
Speaker 1: relationships well, this depends on numerical definitions. Despite the falling

821
00:55:36,315 --> 00:55:39,835
Speaker 1: of religious barriers against divorce and the rise of the

822
00:55:39,915 --> 00:55:44,195
Speaker 1: pre nup during Trump's lifetime, the mean is still around

823
00:55:44,235 --> 00:55:47,435
Speaker 1: just one point two marriages per American and the number

824
00:55:47,435 --> 00:55:49,275
Speaker 1: of men who marry more than once is still only

825
00:55:49,315 --> 00:55:53,635
Speaker 1: about fifteen percent. But Trump's marriage is still total only

826
00:55:53,915 --> 00:55:59,315
Speaker 1: three and Stormy Daniels are no Stormy Daniels. Their lengths

827
00:55:59,355 --> 00:56:02,755
Speaker 1: fourteen years, six years, and eleven years. They're hardly in

828
00:56:02,795 --> 00:56:08,195
Speaker 1: the annulled by sunset range. So points awarded none running

829
00:56:08,195 --> 00:56:11,995
Speaker 1: score twenty nine out of thirty four. Coming down the

830
00:56:12,075 --> 00:56:20,115
Speaker 1: stretch eighteen juvenile delinquency. Not every student at Trump's high

831
00:56:20,155 --> 00:56:24,395
Speaker 1: priced alma mater, New York Military Academy NEEMA, was automatically

832
00:56:24,395 --> 00:56:26,715
Speaker 1: the son of rich parents who had been afforded to choice,

833
00:56:26,755 --> 00:56:31,195
Speaker 1: not offered their less affluent fellow troubled kids military school

834
00:56:31,475 --> 00:56:35,515
Speaker 1: or reform school. That would be a cliche, but the

835
00:56:35,595 --> 00:56:38,875
Speaker 1: one on the record, firsthand assessment we have of Trump

836
00:56:38,955 --> 00:56:43,595
Speaker 1: as child cuts through cliches and reputations. He was a

837
00:56:43,635 --> 00:56:48,155
Speaker 1: pretty rough fellow when he was small, said Donald Trump's father,

838
00:56:48,835 --> 00:56:50,835
Speaker 1: explaining why he had to pull him out of a

839
00:56:50,875 --> 00:56:54,595
Speaker 1: traditional prep school in their native Queens and ship him

840
00:56:54,595 --> 00:56:59,155
Speaker 1: away to New York Military Academy NEEMA. There are plenty

841
00:56:59,195 --> 00:57:01,595
Speaker 1: of classmates at the military boarding school, who paint a

842
00:57:01,595 --> 00:57:05,755
Speaker 1: picture of a kid always throwing hands. On June twenty third,

843
00:57:05,795 --> 00:57:12,115
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, the Washington Post Trump profiled the inmate Trump

844
00:57:12,715 --> 00:57:15,915
Speaker 1: quote stuck with a broomstick during a fight, He tried

845
00:57:15,955 --> 00:57:19,275
Speaker 1: to push a fellow cadet out a second floor window,

846
00:57:20,075 --> 00:57:24,755
Speaker 1: only to be thwarted when two other students intervened. Maybe

847
00:57:24,755 --> 00:57:28,155
Speaker 1: that's where the Russians got the idea about windows. The

848
00:57:28,235 --> 00:57:31,955
Speaker 1: paper also quoted one of his pre NEMA teachers. He

849
00:57:31,995 --> 00:57:34,275
Speaker 1: would sit with his arms folded with this look on

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Speaker 1: his face. I use the words surly, almost daring you

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Speaker 1: to say one thing or another that wouldn't settle with him.

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Speaker 1: The Post also quoted a younger neighbor named Dennis Burnham. Once,

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Speaker 1: when she left Dennis in a playpen in a backyard

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Speaker 1: adjoining the Trump's property, Martha Burnham returned to find Donald

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Speaker 1: throwing rocks at her son. She saw Donald standing at

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Speaker 1: the fence, Dennis Burnham said, using the playpen for target practice.

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Speaker 1: That is the sort of stuff that would make a

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Speaker 1: bully flinch. Plus, we have the boast from little Donnie

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Speaker 1: Trump about at seven years old, blackening the eye of

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Speaker 1: an adult. Hist music teacher. Do we have records of

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Speaker 1: the police being called now? Nor does the category heading

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Speaker 1: ask for them, And that becomes a critical importance as

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Speaker 1: we come down towards the nineteenth and twentieth topics. Points

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Speaker 1: awarded two running score yeah, thirty one out of thirty

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Speaker 1: six nineteen The penultimate number revocation of conditional release. But

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Speaker 1: how many times have you brought that topic up? Don't

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Speaker 1: be worried if it confuses you. Confusion only means you're

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Speaker 1: not a parole officer. This is legal lingo for getting

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Speaker 1: your parole revoked or your probation converted into jail time

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Speaker 1: because you were just caught doing that illegal thing that

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Speaker 1: had gotten you in trouble in the first place. It

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Speaker 1: is very specifically a criminal record issue, and we're not

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Speaker 1: there yet. He only got indicted yesterday. It's not even

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Speaker 1: official yet. Points awarded zero, running score thirty one out

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Speaker 1: of thirty eight. So to the final one, twenty criminal versatility.

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Speaker 1: The psychological professional and I got into a big debate

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Speaker 1: about this one. She argued that criminal in this sense

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Speaker 1: is not necessarily meant literally here that if you scammed charities,

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Speaker 1: stole money from grandmothers bya a phony university and directed

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Speaker 1: about twenty percent of your campaigns, monthly spending towards companies

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Speaker 1: you own, and the reimbursement for travel by your children.

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Speaker 1: That all qualified whether or not it was literally criminal.

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Speaker 1: But my point was the word criminal is used, not dishonest,

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Speaker 1: not unethical, not nefarious, not giving your kids money capital

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Speaker 1: ce criminal and the purp walk or the mug shot

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Speaker 1: or the multimillion dollar fine and restitution, which that implies

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Speaker 1: not that that couldn't be the end result of Trump University,

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Speaker 1: but it isn't, not yet. Points awarded zero. Final score

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Speaker 1: thirty one out of forty. Editor's note number two. He

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Speaker 1: was impeached once, now he's being indicted. He's on deck

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Speaker 1: before two other grand juries. They think we can give

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Speaker 1: him the two points. So the adjusted final score on

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Speaker 1: this exam, this sanity test, where the low score is better.

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Speaker 1: The Donald Trump's score is thirty three out of forty.

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Speaker 1: He petered out towards the end there, but with thirty

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Speaker 1: points being the marker at which professionals could present a

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Speaker 1: diagnosis of psychopathy, the implications are clear. Our Trumper's new

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Speaker 1: clothes media rightly sees the latest Trump event, whatever it

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Speaker 1: is this time as one of the most unbelievable developments

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Speaker 1: in American political history. But the simple mechanics of following, reporting,

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Speaker 1: and writing the proverbial new high and low every single

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Speaker 1: day means that they could be missing one overriding truth

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Speaker 1: about the health of the most remarkable presidential candidate since

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Speaker 1: at least the year eighteen sixty four. In short, our

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Speaker 1: amateurs exercise with the very professional hair psychopathy checklist suggests

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Speaker 1: that if you were betting on it, you would probably

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Speaker 1: want to bet that Donald Trump couldn't pass a sanity test,

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Speaker 1: even if it was open book. And now, having slogged

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Speaker 1: through this inventory of the Citizen Kane storage unit of

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Speaker 1: bizarre presidential conduct, go look at social media because in

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Speaker 1: the time it has taken me to read this to you,

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Speaker 1: the odds are pretty good. He's just done something new

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Speaker 1: that will actually raise his score. Okay, I've done all

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Speaker 1: the damage I can do here. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: Here the credits. Most of the music was arranged, produced,

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Speaker 1: and performed by Brian Ray and John Philip Channel, who

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Speaker 1: are the Countdown musical directors. All orchestration and keyboards by

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Speaker 1: John Philip Channel. Guitars based and drums by Brian Ray,

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Speaker 1: produced by Tko Brothers. Other Petoven selections have been arranged

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Speaker 1: and performed by No horns allowed when we use it.

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Speaker 1: The sports music is the Olberman theme from ESPN two,

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Speaker 1: written by Mitch Warren Davis courtesy of ESPN Inc. Musical

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Speaker 1: comments when we have them by Nancy Faust, the best

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Speaker 1: baseball stadium organist ever, and everything else, of course, is

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Speaker 1: pretty much my fault. So let's countdown for this, the

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifteenth day since Donald Trump's first attempted

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Speaker 1: coup against the democratically elected government unto the United States.

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Speaker 1: Arrest him now while we still all right they are, so,

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Speaker 1: arrest him again while we still can. The next schedule

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Speaker 1: countdown is Monday, but if the mugshot drops before then,

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Speaker 1: you can anticipate a special edition book it Dano till then.

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Speaker 1: I'm Keith all Reman. Good morning, good afternoon, goodnight, and

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Speaker 1: Happy Trumpamus Countdown with Keith ol Reman is a production

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