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Speaker 1: It really is. It just makes so much sense right now.

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Speaker 5: As Cardinals defensive coordinator Nick Rowless and in a twelve

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Speaker 5: What do you like to go by Xavier?

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Speaker 1: Definitely?

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Speaker 9: Then I got the nickname next once I got to

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Speaker 1: So, Jay, I've got to ask you this right now.

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Speaker 1: Mid Draft day is always a special day. I played

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Speaker 5: If we would ask you before the draft, all right,

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Speaker 1: So is that you grew up in South Carolina? Correct? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I played base baseball. I was actually my first sport

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Speaker 1: Wow, pleasure.

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Speaker 5: Hey Cardinals Round five rookie Xavier Thomas, our guest in

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Speaker 5: the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 5: So the fact that you ended up being the number

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Speaker 9: Yes, sir, So those those guys that I was in

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Speaker 1: So zay, how what's your way at right now? You

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Speaker 1: so you're you're in shape right now, You're right where

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Speaker 9: I would say, really, just a relentless effort is what

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Speaker 5: Was there anything about your scatter report? You know, there's

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Speaker 9: I mean the number one thing I hated seeing with

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Speaker 9: Of it, Yes, sir, so coming out of college, like

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Speaker 1: was able to actually bring you out of that that's

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Speaker 1: really truly amazing. Let me ask you this right here,

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Speaker 1: what is your expectation going into your rookie season. What

439
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Speaker 1: is it?

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Speaker 9: We just want to get into respect of my teammates

441
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Speaker 9: and my coaches and come in here and make it

442
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Speaker 9: and be an impact Flayer no matter what it is,

443
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Speaker 9: it as an rotation of pass rusher or as a

444
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Speaker 9: special teams player, whatever I need to do, just come

445
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Speaker 9: here and be an impact with flayir on and off

446
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Speaker 9: the field.

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Speaker 1: So you've got no problem playing special team, no problem.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the best parts of the game.

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Speaker 5: By the way, you're you're looking a guy who went

450
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Speaker 5: to four Pro Bowls as a special teamer. So that's

451
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Speaker 5: that's the essence of that question over there. So I

452
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Speaker 5: mentioned your scutter report. When I see you at the

453
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Speaker 5: fourth fastest forty at the combine of the edge guys

454
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Speaker 5: you know and Chop Robinson, Jared Verse, et cetera. What

455
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Speaker 5: how much do you think you can prove at this level?

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Speaker 5: That is still an unknown just because of the way. Look,

457
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Speaker 5: we all know how your career started, but the way

458
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Speaker 5: it ended and maybe you're under the radar to some degree.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, one hundred percent, I'm ready to really just elevate

460
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Speaker 9: my game to another level in regards to getting professional

461
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Speaker 9: coaching and really just doing those different things that really

462
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Speaker 9: I can take my pass rush game to the next

463
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Speaker 9: level and really elevate myself. That's what I plan on doing,

464
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Speaker 9: and put my best foot forward and just really having

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Speaker 9: a It's gonna be a drastic amount of production based

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Speaker 9: off what I have from college to now, for sure.

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Speaker 1: So if you were looking at yourself and you were

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Speaker 1: scouting yourself, what do you think your strengths are?

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Speaker 9: Say, I say my strengths are definitely my speed obviously,

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Speaker 9: and then I can translate that to power very well

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Speaker 9: in regards to making the tackle kick back, because a

472
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Speaker 9: lot of tackle's gonna play my speed because I'm a

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Speaker 9: speed rusher. But I can really translate that into my

474
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Speaker 9: power in regards to having a long arm and throw

475
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Speaker 9: by things like that. So I definitely that and just

476
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Speaker 9: my relentless effort like I was talking about earlier, That's

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Speaker 9: what I pride myself on just being because if you

478
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Speaker 9: look at it, obviously guys win at the top of

479
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Speaker 9: the rush and win a pass rush rep. But most

480
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Speaker 9: of the Saxon and NFL you get, you get guys

481
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Speaker 9: to just effort to the ball and just not giving

482
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Speaker 9: up on their pass rush and just keep keep going

483
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Speaker 9: to the quarterback type thing. So that's obviously a credit

484
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Speaker 9: to the back end if they have good coverage and

485
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Speaker 9: things like that. But just pride myself on being relentless

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Speaker 9: pass rush.

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Speaker 1: Well, I listen to you and I hear a dog.

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Speaker 1: That's what I hear. I hear a dog. Take a

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Speaker 1: lot of pride in that, don't yes, there, I always have.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you're a guy with a master's degree, right,

491
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Speaker 5: so obviously the work ethic is there. Then you go

492
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Speaker 5: to the Shrine Bowl. What do you think he showed

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals? What do you think he proved at the

494
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Speaker 5: Shrine Bowl in particular?

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Speaker 9: Really did? I'm just a dominant player. I'm going to

496
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Speaker 9: dominate my opponent, and that's what I went out there

497
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Speaker 9: to do. I didn't lose a pass rush, run one

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Speaker 9: on one rep out there at all, and I think

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Speaker 9: I did about ten out there, So I didn't lose

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Speaker 9: a rep out there. Just wanted to and doing the

501
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Speaker 9: team periods of getting sacks and just running to the

502
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Speaker 9: ball in regardless to it was a screen pass. I'm

503
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Speaker 9: running down the field to it. That's just the type

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Speaker 9: of player I am. That's what I want to express.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you have anything to prove at

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Speaker 1: this love.

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Speaker 9: That's why I can't wait to just ready to get

508
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Speaker 9: my just really elevate my game and ready to take

509
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Speaker 9: it to the next level.

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Speaker 5: Is there anything you're curious to find out about when

511
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Speaker 5: it comes to the NFL? Like, is there anything you're saying?

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Speaker 5: All right, here, we are on the evil rookie camp.

513
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Speaker 5: It's all beginning, and you won't get extremely realenttal training camp.

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Speaker 1: We get that.

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Speaker 5: But what are you most curious to find out about

516
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Speaker 5: at football at this level?

517
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Speaker 9: Really just to just to see how it feels. I mean,

518
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Speaker 9: obviously you get to watch it on TV and things

519
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Speaker 9: like that, and I play at the highest level of college,

520
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Speaker 9: but when you get to the NFL, obviously it's different.

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Speaker 9: I just want to just excited to see how it

522
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Speaker 9: feels so I can get it under my belt. And

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Speaker 9: once I get it under my belt, it's the sky's

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Speaker 9: the limit. I'm just ready to go.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think is going to be the

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Speaker 1: hardest adjustment for you coming into the NFL?

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Speaker 9: If see the hardest adjustment I learned and adjusted to

528
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Speaker 9: so much throughout my college career to where I don't

529
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Speaker 9: even think like it would be a big adjustment in

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Speaker 9: regards to coming to this level just because of the

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Speaker 9: habits I developed over my time at college. Like I

532
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Speaker 9: was a younger guy. If I came out to doing

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Speaker 9: that year, like I said, if I was gonna be

534
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Speaker 9: a three and our guy, then I probably would have

535
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Speaker 9: had a hard time adjusting to being able to take

536
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Speaker 9: care of my body like a pro and how to

537
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Speaker 9: eat right and how to really put in extra work,

538
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Speaker 9: extra film and things like that. But I developed those

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Speaker 9: over time throughout my time at Clemson, So I really

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Speaker 9: don't think it would be a hard adjustment at all

541
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Speaker 9: towards anything, because I know how to take care of

542
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Speaker 9: my body, I know how to eat like a pro,

543
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Speaker 9: I know how to watch extra tape when I know

544
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Speaker 9: how to translate that to the field, and I know

545
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Speaker 9: how to really study a playbook, and I know how

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Speaker 9: to correctly watch filmal an opponent. So I don't feel

547
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Speaker 9: like it would be a hard adjustment at all.

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Speaker 5: Would you make of this last season at Clemson and

549
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Speaker 5: Xavier Thomas is our guest here Cardinals rookie edge guy

550
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Speaker 5: because you had three and a half sacks, but you

551
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Speaker 5: led the team with forty three pressures, and your defensive

552
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Speaker 5: coordinators saying, look, it's not always about the sacks. It's

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Speaker 5: about affecting the quarterback. Sir, So would you make your

554
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Speaker 5: final season at Clemson?

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Speaker 9: I would say, really, I just wanted to because I

556
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Speaker 9: was like, this past year was like that was my

557
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Speaker 9: first time playing in maybe three years, like, because I

558
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Speaker 9: had sat out from twenty twenty to twenty twenty two,

559
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Speaker 9: and then twenty twenty two I was fully healthy, ready

560
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Speaker 9: to go. Then I had my first career injury when

561
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Speaker 9: broke my foot. So I really just wanted to get

562
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Speaker 9: a fully healthy season before I went to the next level,

563
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Speaker 9: which is what I really wanted to do. Obviously, you

564
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Speaker 9: say with the stats and things like that, but I

565
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Speaker 9: never really paid attention to it.

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Speaker 1: My job on.

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Speaker 9: The field was to just relentlessly affect the quarterback, and

568
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Speaker 9: that's what I did, regardless of that was ordered in

569
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Speaker 9: ten sacks, was ordered in ten pressures. That's just what

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Speaker 9: I did.

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Speaker 1: Can you drop off into coverage.

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Speaker 9: Yes, sir, I did a lot of drops at Clemson,

573
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Speaker 9: and coach Rodriguez and I talked with them on thirty

574
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Speaker 9: visits because we do a lot of drops here as

575
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Speaker 9: the outside linebackers here, so it's gonna be translate very well.

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Speaker 1: So do you think maybe some interceptions on thezon that's

577
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Speaker 1: what you're saying.

578
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Speaker 9: I grew up as a playing running back and where

579
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Speaker 9: I receive all that, so I'm very athletic person, so

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Speaker 9: it'll be easy.

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Speaker 5: You're a former wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Really, yes, sir?

583
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Speaker 5: Wow, See that's that's when you know it's the NFL.

584
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Speaker 5: When a guy can run as that sort of athleticism

585
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Speaker 5: is now playing edge. That's all you know it's the NFL.

586
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Speaker 5: And you've been working out here since well most of

587
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Speaker 5: this year, haven't you.

588
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Speaker 1: Yea since January?

589
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Speaker 9: So I came out here because I've been living in

590
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Speaker 9: the South Caroline of my whole life, obviously Isaac Clemson,

591
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Speaker 9: and then I came out here to Phoenix, Arizona. I

592
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Speaker 9: was training the Exos for the combine, so I was

593
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Speaker 9: living out here from January to April. Then I moved

594
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Speaker 9: away for a week right before the draft, and then

595
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Speaker 9: obviously Arizona drafting me.

596
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Speaker 1: So I'm right back.

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Speaker 5: Have you run into your first scorpion yet or maybe

598
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Speaker 5: have Alina or anything? Have you had an Arizona encounter

599
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Speaker 5: of any sort?

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't say a true Arizona encounter outside.

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Speaker 1: Of the dry ear. There you go, man, Sorry, well.

602
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Speaker 5: Zay Man, we are really looking forward to seeing you

603
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Speaker 5: out on that field and uh Wolf. We know there

604
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Speaker 5: are certain positions that can be plugging play in this

605
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Speaker 5: league and getting to the quarterback that can translate immediately.

606
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Speaker 1: Line up on the edge and go get that guy.

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Speaker 5: So welcome to Arizona, Xavier, sir, thank you.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 5: Xavier Thomas is our guest. Will continue and we'll talk

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Speaker 5: more about this draft class, the upcoming schedule, and more.

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Speaker 5: It is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Port

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Speaker 5: and Gilbert. We are santan Port.

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Speaker 3: With the eighty.

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Speaker 7: Second pick in the twenty twenty four NFL.

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Speaker 10: Drop the Arizona Cardinals select Tip prim and tight Ends Illinois.

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Speaker 1: You still not believe in birds?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 1: They are cardinals? All right?

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Speaker 6: All right, he's a joke. It needs to be contexts.

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Speaker 6: He needs to be context He's a joke. I believe

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Speaker 6: in birds. I believe in God, He's our creator. There's creation.

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Speaker 6: I believe in birds. We'll set the record straight right now.

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Speaker 5: Thanks guys, that was a great walk off moment that

624
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Speaker 5: ended his introductory press conference in person with the Arizona media.

625
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Speaker 5: Little mic drop there at the very end. That was

626
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Speaker 5: the final question from Gershman. Yes, final question, because there

627
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Speaker 5: was a story out out there that he obviously just

628
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Speaker 5: set the record straight that he didn't believe in birds.

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Speaker 5: It was some sort of conspiracy theory. He said he

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Speaker 5: was messing around Tip Ryman. Let me tell you, if

631
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Speaker 5: he can tip the scales in terms of his football

632
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Speaker 5: prowess like he did with his personality with the media,

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Speaker 5: then the Cardinals have a fine in Round three, one

634
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Speaker 5: of four Round three picks. Welcome back into the Big

635
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Speaker 5: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul KELBC

636
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Speaker 5: Ron Wolfley Special thanks to Xavier Thomas. In that last segment,

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Speaker 5: you just once again all ball. Yes, Xavier Thomas, six

638
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Speaker 5: years of Clemson as his masters. I mean, I just

639
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Speaker 5: I see a class that is ready to contribute from

640
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Speaker 5: top to bottom. And wolf there's no doubt they do

641
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Speaker 5: have a need for a blocking tight end, especially Jeff Swain.

642
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Speaker 5: You know that injury that ended his season last year

643
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Speaker 5: prematurely at the end of his career. Well, here comes

644
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Speaker 5: mister tip Ryman at six five, two seventy plus.

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Speaker 1: And Paul, it's not just tip Ryman, it is not

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Speaker 1: go ahead and look at the first three picks in

647
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Speaker 1: that third round. That was a statement of purpose as

648
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Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned. Right here. Trey Benson, a big

649
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Speaker 1: running back that can spot James Connor. Of course, Isaiah

650
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Speaker 1: Adams a guy that I think is going to be

651
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Speaker 1: battling for that left guard position. Guy who was a

652
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Speaker 1: tackle of course, but you can kick him inside and playguard.

653
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Speaker 1: And then tip Ryman, tip Ryman, the best blocking tight

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Speaker 1: end in the draft. You put those three things together

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Speaker 1: in that third round, and what does that say to you? POLLI,

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Carter was going to line up in just

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Speaker 1: butchers of people.

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Speaker 5: Three words, cram a vertical. That's what it says to me.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 5: That was our phrase last year. If a straight ahead,

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Speaker 5: power run game. By the way, tip Ryman, Isaiah Adams

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Speaker 5: the roommates right now, according to tip because you know

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Speaker 5: they're college teammates. Okay, you have that. If you remember

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Speaker 5: Dave Sears last week, the Cardinals assistant GM talking about

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Speaker 5: how they're looking for quote grimy offensive lineman grimy guys

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Speaker 5: who will quote shove your face in the dirt. So

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Speaker 5: so you're you're right, Wolf. I mean, this is the

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Speaker 5: kind of guy they're looking for.

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Speaker 1: It's a simple game.

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Speaker 5: So but once again, these are mature guys, have great personalities.

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Speaker 5: None other than Tip Ryman was asked, Hey, Tip, what

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Speaker 5: do you do away from football?

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Speaker 6: If I've got my pottery wheel with me and do

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Speaker 6: pottery throw a lot of pots. That was my Like

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Speaker 6: both my sister's wedding gifts was like sets of plates

676
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Speaker 6: and bulls and mugs and all that.

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Speaker 1: So I like to do that stuff. My mom.

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Speaker 6: She's I say, she's better than Bob Ross at paint

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Speaker 6: saying mural. She's crazy. She's crazy. No, no wolves here,

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Speaker 6: She's amazing. She's a legend.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I was sitting in there, I was among the

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Speaker 5: people laughing. But for the first ten seconds, I'm like,

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Speaker 5: he's messing with us, right. You got this big, tough,

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Speaker 5: assassin type dude. And he brought his pottery wheel to

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Speaker 5: rookie mini camp. That was a true no comprendo for

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Speaker 5: a moment for me.

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Speaker 1: He's deadly serious.

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Speaker 5: That's what he does for mental health, that's what he

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Speaker 5: does for fun.

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Speaker 1: Okay, pots, Well, I told him, I said to him,

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Speaker 1: many Okay, so you make pots? Is that your pottery?

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Speaker 1: Do you bust them after? Is that what he does?

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Speaker 1: Throw him up against the wall, smash him, Paul, something,

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Speaker 1: some type of therapy. I have no idea, but I

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Speaker 1: can tell you right now, Paul, I this guy. Get

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Speaker 1: your antennae up on tip Ryman right now, because this

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Speaker 1: might be the best interview in the history of rookie

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Speaker 1: class in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: You didn't really have the audacity to ask him if

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Speaker 5: he busted his pots after he made it.

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Speaker 9: I did.

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Speaker 5: Back when you were a wedge buster or extraordinaire and

703
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Speaker 5: you used to write poetry, did you tear up your

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Speaker 5: poetry when you were done?

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't.

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Speaker 5: It was your art. It was made with your hands,

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Speaker 5: in your mind.

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Speaker 1: That's true, Paul, no doubt about it. Man, he's got that,

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Speaker 1: he's got that part of him. But he's also he's

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Speaker 1: gonna just make this offense a whole different offense going forward.

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Speaker 1: You watch.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So, speaking of I noticed what the Raiders did,

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Speaker 5: because if you look at tip Ryman for everything that

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Speaker 5: he is is a blocking tight end. You called him

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Speaker 5: the best blocking tight end in the draft, and yes,

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Speaker 5: you're you're not wrong in that one at sixty five

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Speaker 5: two seventy plus. You look at the analytics, he had

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Speaker 5: the best athleticism score of any tight end in the

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Speaker 5: draft as well, it was higher than brock Bauers, who

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Speaker 5: went number thirteen overall. You take a look at what

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Speaker 5: the Raiders have done the last two years, and then

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Speaker 5: you take a look what the Cardinals have done. Brock

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Speaker 5: Bauer six three, two forty three.

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Speaker 1: Very good as well in terms of a blocking tight end.

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Speaker 1: Very good.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so think about that highly athletic, that body type,

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Speaker 5: but he's also a dual tight end. Does that remind

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Speaker 5: you a little bit of Trey McBride. Now look at

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Speaker 5: the guy they took last year the Raiders in round

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Speaker 5: two at number thirty five overall, Michael Mayer out of

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Speaker 5: Notre Dame, a big beast of a tight end six

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Speaker 5: four two sixty five in those two and with the Raiders,

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Speaker 5: I see the two with the Cardinals. That thunder and

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Speaker 5: lightning type at tight end.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is, Paul, That's exactly what it is,

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Speaker 1: and that's what you want to do right now. Twelve

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Speaker 1: per and rundown situation. First in ten second and one

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Speaker 1: to six, you can attack the line of scrimmage. You

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Speaker 1: can run the ball with physicality, and then you can

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Speaker 1: throw the ball just as easily, especially if you've got

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Speaker 1: a quarterback who's comfortable being under center and now all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden ball you can you can attack a

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Speaker 1: defense with play action, and Trey McBride is going to

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Speaker 1: get off in those situations.

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Speaker 5: Like Dave Sears, the assistant GM told us last week,

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals led the NFL in thirteen personnel.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so there you go. I get ready for twelve personnel.

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Speaker 1: Lead the NFL in twelve personnel and rundown.

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Speaker 5: Oh see Drew Petsings. So he's got another weapon in

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Speaker 5: that tight end room. Now, speaking of the later rounds,

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Speaker 5: after you got passed the first round, you ended up

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Speaker 5: getting three cornerbacks in this draft, starting with Max Melton

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Speaker 5: and number forty three. But remember the Cardinals traded back.

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Speaker 5: They went from thirty five to forty three, and then

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Speaker 5: there was a run yep on corners in front of

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals Cooper de Gene, koul A, McKinstry, Kamari Lass

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Speaker 5: went forty two, and that was a question of Max

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Speaker 5: Melton when he met the media just about you know,

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Speaker 5: those comparisons to the corners who are drafted immediately ahead

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Speaker 5: of him.

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Speaker 10: You know, everybody's gonna have an opinion. Opinions are like

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Speaker 10: Gucci belts. Everybody has one, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 10: So it's actly like everybody's gonna having the pain. Nobody's

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Speaker 10: ever going to be one hundred percent on the same page,

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Speaker 10: especially when we're talking about millions of fans, you know.

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Speaker 10: But I know, come the season, once we get a

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Speaker 10: couple of weeks in, I think they'll be happy with

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Speaker 10: their pick.

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Speaker 1: I got it.

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Speaker 5: I have to elevate my drip apparently, Wolf do you

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Speaker 5: have a Gucci You got no drip ball? Apparently? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: my fit is inadequate.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't have a Gucci belt.

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Speaker 1: I have no Gucci belt.

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Speaker 5: Just everybody's got one except the two of us.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 5: We got a really favit. Max Melton was great with

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Speaker 5: the media, and you know what, he's a fast talker,

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Speaker 5: has jim O Mahundro said, Let's hope he plays as

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Speaker 5: fast as he talks. But his playing style has been

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Speaker 5: described as frenetic and it's interesting the confidence he brought

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Speaker 5: with him to that that podium and that microphone, because

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Speaker 5: he spent the last four years not just going against

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Speaker 5: like Marvin Irrison Junior as a younger guy, went against

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Speaker 5: Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson Ohio State. He's been against

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Speaker 5: a lot of big time receivers in his college days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt about that. Pauli and also too.

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Speaker 1: I would just say Max Melton is a guy that

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Speaker 1: knows how to play in his zone room. This is

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I think the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: really targeted Max Melton. Think about it. We play a

793
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Speaker 1: lot of zone, we do, no doubt about it. JG

794
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Speaker 1: is going to play a lot of zone. Nick Rowlis

795
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Speaker 1: as well loves that you need guys you can actually

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Speaker 1: go out there and do it. He can walk up

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Speaker 1: and play pressman cover all day long. He's got no

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Speaker 1: problem doing that. But he even I got the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to talk to him, he was even talking about playing

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Speaker 1: in his zone room and how much fun that is

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Speaker 1: to actually mess with a quarterback, knowing that the quarterback

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Speaker 1: is reading his body language, knowing that a quarterback is

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Speaker 1: looking to see if he's looking. He knows how to

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Speaker 1: disguise that coverage and jump a lot of routes in

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Speaker 1: his own room. That to me listening to him talk,

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Speaker 1: Max Melton, that really bodes well for not only the

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Speaker 1: secondary the Arizona Cardinals, but for this rookie coming in

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Speaker 1: and being able to actually make a difference.

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Speaker 5: You'll like this. Having gone to four Pro Bowls as

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Speaker 5: a special teamer, I ran into some of the Cardinals coaches.

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Speaker 5: The first thing they cited on Max Melton the fact

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Speaker 5: he had four blocks, and they're like, not just anybody

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Speaker 5: can do.

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Speaker 1: That, And he said he loves playing in transition. Interesting.

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Speaker 5: The other sleeper at corner, by the way, was the

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Speaker 5: final round three pick Elijah Jones out of Boston College

817
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Speaker 5: six one and a half yep one five highly skilled

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Speaker 5: cover corner. Really intrigued to see what he's all about.

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Speaker 5: Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 3: Tyler Murray has been magical because we're starting to see

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Speaker 3: not just the magic tricks, the sorcery, it's not just

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Speaker 3: the wizardry of Kyler Murray gets the throws from the

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Speaker 3: pocket that we've seen that have been really impressive.

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Speaker 4: When he hit the field, it was like, all right,

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Speaker 4: here's the game plan.

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Speaker 1: We gotta go play.

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Speaker 4: Now it's hey, are you taking the right drop? Are

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Speaker 4: your eyes in the right place, or did you feel

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Speaker 4: that play the way we want it to be filled?

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Speaker 8: You know, I think all of those conversations can happen now.

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Speaker 4: So certainly excited about that.

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Speaker 5: That's Drew Petsing recently, a Cardinals offensive coordinator, talking about

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Speaker 5: the offseason, actually having a full off season with your

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Speaker 5: franchise quarterback. Think about what the Cardinals had to do

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Speaker 5: last year. Kyler Murray missed the entirety of the offseason.

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Speaker 5: He missed training can, he missed the first half of

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Speaker 5: the regular season. He just dropped in mid season, had

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00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 5: to get up to game speed coming off a serious

844
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Speaker 5: knee injury in a brand new offense, requiring him to

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Speaker 5: do a whole bunch of brand new things foreign to him,

846
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 5: learn brand new receips I think it's only now we

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Speaker 5: look back and realize the degree of difficulty.

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Speaker 1: Think you're right, Paul, as we.

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Speaker 5: Say, welcome back into the Big Red Rage, presented by

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Speaker 5: santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's no surprise that he really wasn't at his best

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Speaker 5: until the final three or four games of the season

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Speaker 5: because it took him a while to assimilate all the

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Speaker 5: above we just named.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and once again for him to overcome

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Speaker 1: all this. I remember going into that season where there

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Speaker 1: were a lot of people saying that the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: are going to sit him down. They'll sit them down

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Speaker 1: the entire year, remember that, Paul, And we're all right,

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Speaker 1: oh no, don't do that. That's the one thing you

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Speaker 1: can't do. You've got to go ahead and you've get

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Speaker 1: how many games he can go out there and play.

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Speaker 1: You've got to get him out there on the field.

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Speaker 1: You can't sit him down the entire year. And of course,

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Speaker 1: as we know, he played eight games three and five

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Speaker 1: on the season, right there should have been four and four.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say that, but should have, would

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Speaker 1: have could of course, the Seattle game drove me nuts,

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Speaker 1: just even thinking about it right now, but having said that,

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Speaker 1: he got invaluable experience last year in this offense, and Paul,

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Speaker 1: you already said it the last four games of the season.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about a quarter of the season. The Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals in terms of yards per game, number one offense

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Speaker 1: in the league. Wow.

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Speaker 5: Let that hang in the air for a minute. Back

876
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Speaker 5: Mani also for it Cardinals. GM was on the Day

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Speaker 5: Pash podcast and we talk about everything that Kyler had

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Speaker 5: to overcome, and here was Mani's take on what Kyler

879
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Speaker 5: did while rehabbing this offseason.

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Speaker 7: He can focus on being a great teammate, getting himself ready,

881
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 7: getting himself more acclimated to the offense. And so, you know,

882
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 7: I think that's a really maybe overlook part of what

883
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Speaker 7: Kyler did last year, and just the fact that he

884
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Speaker 7: was coming off a major, major knee injury and so

885
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Speaker 7: just to get himself to where he was at physically,

886
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Speaker 7: but then also mentally the challenge that he had to

887
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Speaker 7: learn an entirely new offense with not being able to

888
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Speaker 7: practice it until November.

889
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Speaker 5: I remember it was last year. We Askedrew sitting right

890
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 5: in that chair, a long time NFL quarterback, former Cardinals quarterback.

891
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Speaker 5: We asked him not having an offseason to get chemistry

892
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 5: the receivers, big deal, Not a big deal? He said,

893
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Speaker 5: it's a huge deal. It's absolutely critical for every quarterback.

894
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Speaker 5: And so I think we're all even more intrigued by Okay,

895
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Speaker 5: what is this passing game going to look like after

896
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Speaker 5: a full off season?

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Speaker 1: No doubt, Paul, what is it going to look like

898
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Speaker 1: right now? But can I just say this as well

899
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Speaker 1: that for me, how this offense evolves is going to

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Speaker 1: be based on Kyler Murray and we're going to continue

901
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: to see this offense evolve because Kyler Murray is encouraged.

902
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Speaker 1: You've heard me talk about this, Paul, but it's the truth.

903
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Speaker 1: You can hear the encouragement also, and Manti asen Ford's voice.

904
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Speaker 1: You could hear it in JG's voice when he talks

905
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Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray. You can hear it in Kyler's voice

906
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Speaker 1: when he talks about this offense and what he was

907
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Speaker 1: able to do last year in this offense. You can

908
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Speaker 1: hear the encouragement, and Paul, for every Cardinal fan that

909
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: is out there right now, it should encourage you as well. Well.

910
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Speaker 5: He busted into this studio after the draft exactly Marvin

911
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 5: Harrison Junior was introduced, he busted in. You could just

912
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Speaker 5: see the enthusiasm within Kyler Murray. So here, here's a

913
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Speaker 5: couple of questions for you. Number One, Am I on

914
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Speaker 5: a line we mentioned off the top of this show,

915
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Speaker 5: how every player on paper right now in the draft

916
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 5: is a starter, is a Pro bowler?

917
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?

918
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 5: Is it on aline for me to evoke the rookie

919
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 5: year of Justin Jefferson twenty twenty when it comes to

920
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Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison Junior as a reminder, Justin Jefferson had eighty

921
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 5: eight catches for fourteen hundred receiving yards even seven touchdowns

922
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Speaker 5: in a Pro Bowl. The next year, Jamar Chase at

923
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Speaker 5: number five overall, he had eighty one grabs for one

924
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Speaker 5: four hundred and fifty five yards, receiving thirteen touchdowns, a

925
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Speaker 5: Pro Bowl and Offensive Rookie of the Year. Marvin Rrison Junior,

926
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Speaker 5: if he's really a generational receiver? Yes, what if you

927
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Speaker 5: got numbers somewhere in the neighborhood of those and plugged

928
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Speaker 5: that into your offense.

929
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Speaker 1: Well, that'd be incredible. And then as soon as I

930
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Speaker 1: think of that, I think of well, tell me the

931
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Speaker 1: numbers for Trey McBride done as well, because you know,

932
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Speaker 1: one feeds off the other, Paul. And to Marvin Harrison Junior,

933
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Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. His talent is off the

934
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Speaker 1: charts now, Paul. You know me, he's gonna have to

935
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Speaker 1: come in here, he's gonna have to prove it.

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Speaker 10: Paul.

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Speaker 1: I mean you know as well as anybody, the wide

938
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Speaker 1: receiver position is a dicey proposition in the National Football League.

939
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Speaker 1: You've got to come in and you've got to prove it.

940
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Speaker 1: But I think this offense is really going to give

941
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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior every opportunity to really prove it and

942
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Speaker 1: grow going forward.

943
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Speaker 5: How much different do you think the offense will look

944
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Speaker 5: this year? And by that, I mean how much of

945
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 5: the run game last year? You were a top five

946
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Speaker 5: run game a year ago. How much of that was

947
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Speaker 5: out of necessity because you started your Josh Dobbs and

948
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 5: you just had to do what you had to do

949
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Speaker 5: to be able to move the ball. And you have

950
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Speaker 5: a James Connor, Well, we're going to run the ball

951
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Speaker 5: because that's what we do best right now. But with

952
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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray, a two time Pro Bowl quarterback and receiving

953
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Speaker 5: threats and the evolution the emergence of Trey McBride. Do

954
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Speaker 5: you think they run it as much as they did

955
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Speaker 5: a year ago, No.

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Speaker 1: Paully, I think chunk throw is what I think of.

957
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Speaker 1: I think of chunk throw. Now, listen, they're gonna run

958
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Speaker 1: the ball, because that's who they are. You have to

959
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Speaker 1: do that. James Connor's back there, you got Trey Benson

960
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: as well, behind a very physical offensive line. You're gonna

961
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Speaker 1: run the ball. Of course you're gonna do that. But

962
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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you've got Kyler Murray who's

963
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Speaker 1: looking very comfortable being under center as well. And now

964
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Speaker 1: you're gonna run play action and that's gonna open up

965
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Speaker 1: the middle of the field, and that's gonna open up

966
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Speaker 1: some chunk throws for Kyler Murray. And you've got Trey McBride,

967
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Speaker 1: and now hopefully Marvin Harrison Junior as well will assimilate

968
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Speaker 1: quickly to the NFL game and the pro game. You've

969
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Speaker 1: got chunk throw options that are out there right now

970
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Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray. And that's what I think is really

971
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Speaker 1: going to define this offense going forward because of being

972
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Speaker 1: able to run the ball. Play action is gonna be there,

973
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Speaker 1: especially play action from under center, and that means chunk

974
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Speaker 1: throw to me.

975
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Speaker 5: And you know what, until twenty twenty two, where his

976
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Speaker 5: season was ended prematurely by the knee injury, Kyler was

977
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Speaker 5: among the league's best, if not the best, at downfield accuracy,

978
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Speaker 5: at chunk throws, and so I'm curious to see if

979
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Speaker 5: he can regain that sort of form and that effectiveness.

980
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Speaker 5: But to your point about Trey McBride, I still love

981
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Speaker 5: his joke up on the stage at the Cardinals NFL

982
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Speaker 5: Draft party where he said, Hey, if Marvin Errison wants

983
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Speaker 5: to take some of that double coverage I saw the

984
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Speaker 5: end of last season. That's right, Paul, See my guest,

985
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Speaker 5: all of a sudden, that safety has to shade over

986
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Speaker 5: Marvin Errison Junior, and now you're left with a linebacker

987
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Speaker 5: on Trey McBride. Yeah, game over taste it, Yeah, no doubt.

988
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Speaker 5: So we'll see about that. By the way, Zay Jones

989
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Speaker 5: reportedly visited the Cardinals earlier this week. So are they

990
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Speaker 5: in the market for a veteran receiver to add to

991
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Speaker 5: the mix, because there's a lot of youth in that

992
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Speaker 5: room right now. We'll see about that. We'll see if

993
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Speaker 5: maybe they add a veteran corner. A lot more will

994
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Speaker 5: be known after the Rookie Mini Camp see how these

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