WEBVTT - Invention Playlist 3: Air Conditioning, Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Invention, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Invention. My name is Robert Lamp and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mccormickin Today, we're gonna be beginning and exploration of

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<v Speaker 1>the invention of air conditioning. This is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a multi part series. And for the purpose of this conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to be talking about all cooling, refrigeration,

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<v Speaker 1>all making stuff colder technology that has ever existed. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be focusing on the invention of systems primarily

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<v Speaker 1>for cooling and removing humidity from interior spaces, primarily, but

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<v Speaker 1>not exclusively, for the comfort of humans and other animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Right that. Now that being said, we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>mention some some some various cooling technologies and air circulation

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<v Speaker 1>technologies on the path to modern air conditioning exactly. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that I can speak from pre recent

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<v Speaker 1>personal experience, actual actually multiple experiences, to say that if

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<v Speaker 1>you are lucky enough who have air conditioning in your home,

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<v Speaker 1>in your workplace, and the places that you dwell, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in the hottest months of the year, especially if you

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<v Speaker 1>live somewhere hot like in the American South or anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>near the equator, I guess, or Atlanta or Hotlanta, as

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<v Speaker 1>they know that they do not call it. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are one of these lucky people who has this technology,

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<v Speaker 1>you should not take this blessing for granted. You should

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<v Speaker 1>remember every sweltering day to be thankful for this luxury.

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<v Speaker 1>I once lived in an upper floor apartment in an

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<v Speaker 1>old house in North Carolina, as though there was an

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<v Speaker 1>apartment below me, and I went the better part of

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<v Speaker 1>a blistering summer there with no air conditioning. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to over dramatize my my own struggles,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just remember, like my brain didn't work. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember standing at the refrigerator with the freezer door open

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<v Speaker 1>and my head stuck in it, which don't do that, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's not energy efficient, but you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>just short circuited all my rationality to be in this

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<v Speaker 1>hundred degree apartment. I remember I would lie on top

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<v Speaker 1>of my bed and try to sleep at night, just

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<v Speaker 1>making like a human sweat angel, like a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a human shaped sweat imprint on the top blanket. It

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<v Speaker 1>was disgusting and and more recently actually just last year,

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<v Speaker 1>our home air conditioning and it completely broke down. In

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of summer, and it was several weeks before

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<v Speaker 1>we get the problem fixed. And again, maybe I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>a whimp, but I found that in a house that's

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<v Speaker 1>like ninety degrees plus are close to a hundred degrees

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<v Speaker 1>with high humidity, my brain just broke. I remember sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at a desk trying to do work with like a

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<v Speaker 1>wet towel around my neck and a box fan propped

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<v Speaker 1>up pointing at my head, and it just it never

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<v Speaker 1>felt like enough. The hot, swampy summers down here can

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<v Speaker 1>be brutal, and it really makes you appreciate again how

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<v Speaker 1>lucky you are if you have access to this modern convenience,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in Hotlanta or swamp Planta. We can call it that,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, but I got to give a shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to my A C guy, Mike, who Robert here referred

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<v Speaker 1>me to. Yes, my Mike is great. Effects fixed mine

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<v Speaker 1>up as well. And indeed, air conditioning is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things when when it's working properly, you you hardly

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<v Speaker 1>notice it at all and you just take it for granted.

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<v Speaker 1>When something goes wrong, that's when you start sweating, and

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<v Speaker 1>in all possible ways. Uh, sweating at night getting the

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<v Speaker 1>proper terrifying night sweats on. And you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things is, is I get older, I do find

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<v Speaker 1>that I enjoy the heat. Like I I love to

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<v Speaker 1>read and write on my front porch, and I'll generally

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<v Speaker 1>like push that as far as humanly possible in either direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when it's colder, I'll bundle up as much as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't quite bundle my fingers. And then at

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<v Speaker 1>that point I'm driven inside and I have to come

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<v Speaker 1>out when you know the warmer person portion of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>and then what is it gets hotter and hotter. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll do whatever I need to do to

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<v Speaker 1>try and keep the mosquitoes away, you know, burning like um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ritual citronella candles, and wearing more clothing than

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<v Speaker 1>it's perhaps temperature appropriate, just to keep them from biting

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of feasting of my blood, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But but but you know, I don't mind sweating out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I can also, you know, bring out a fan if

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<v Speaker 1>I need to to keep the air moving. And of course,

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<v Speaker 1>as is common with with a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>front porch scenarios, if you have a porch swing or

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<v Speaker 1>a hammock on hand, like, that's ideal because you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the air circulating by keeping yourself in more

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<v Speaker 1>or less continuous motion. Um. But then eventually you reach

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<v Speaker 1>the point or I reached the point where I I

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<v Speaker 1>have to come inside because it will just get too hot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I enjoy having the choice, the privilege of being

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<v Speaker 1>able to come inside and enjoy the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>cooler air. And you know, it's not only a privilege

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<v Speaker 1>of our modern age, it is a privilege in our

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<v Speaker 1>modern age. Yeah, there are millions of people around the

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<v Speaker 1>world in hot climates these days without air conditioning, and

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioning does not come without costs, that's right. I

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<v Speaker 1>should also say that on my front porch, having uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a readily refillable supply of ice water is

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<v Speaker 1>a must. And of course that's that the history of

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<v Speaker 1>refrigeration is is right up there with the history of

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<v Speaker 1>keeping spaces cool. Uh. So you know, both of these

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<v Speaker 1>are technologies that we take completely for granted. So many

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<v Speaker 1>of us that are listening to this podcast you have

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<v Speaker 1>not only um uh you know, cool air inside your home,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have a miraculous machine that can turn liquid

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<v Speaker 1>water into ice, perhaps automatically, and even if not automatically,

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<v Speaker 1>like still very passively, you're not having to actually crank

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<v Speaker 1>it out. All right. Well, before we start talking about

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioning systems or pre air conditioning systems for enclosed spaces,

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<v Speaker 1>we always like to ask the question what came before?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the deepest you can go on what came

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<v Speaker 1>before for air conditioning technology is biological cooling systems and

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<v Speaker 1>thermoregulation in the body, right, and for us that means

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<v Speaker 1>sweat and and this is going to be key to

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<v Speaker 1>the methodology of all these various air conditioning and temperature

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<v Speaker 1>control UH technologies that we're going to discuss in these episodes. So,

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<v Speaker 1>your body produces sweat and UH with the in sweat

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<v Speaker 1>evaporates from the skin to cool the body. That's essential

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<v Speaker 1>is the evaporation, right. It's kind of how in fact

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<v Speaker 1>it works for anybody of water. Right. You can take

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<v Speaker 1>a just a bucket full of water, and the evaporation

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<v Speaker 1>off the surface of that water will cool the water

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<v Speaker 1>in the rest of the bucket because that evaporation is

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<v Speaker 1>an energy hungry phase transfer, and it as to suck

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<v Speaker 1>energy out of the heat from the rest of the water. Yeah, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>liquid water evaporates into vapor using the thermal energy in

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<v Speaker 1>the air, resulting in a lower air temperature. The water

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<v Speaker 1>in sweat absorbs your body's heat energy and then evaporates,

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<v Speaker 1>lowering your temperature in the process. That is evaporateate of cooling. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>evaporate of cooling is one of the really cool things

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<v Speaker 1>about chemistry when you really think about it. Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>questions kind of similar. Um, how come when you boil

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<v Speaker 1>a pot of water on the stove and it reaches

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<v Speaker 1>the boiling point, the entire pot of water doesn't transform

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<v Speaker 1>into steam all at once? Do you even think about that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering about this one time, one one contemplates

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<v Speaker 1>while watching the pot of water boil. Right, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most entertaining of activities. But yeah, it can. It

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<v Speaker 1>can raise some interesting questions in your mind. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think the way this works is that as water boils,

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<v Speaker 1>some of that liquid water is turning into steam. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a phase transition. It's the same thing that's happening on

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<v Speaker 1>your skin. Liquid water in your skin is turning into water,

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<v Speaker 1>vapor into steam and coming off of your skin. But

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<v Speaker 1>as that happens in the pot, as that water is

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<v Speaker 1>turned into steam. The pot of water loses energy in

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<v Speaker 1>that process because it's a massively energy hungry process to

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<v Speaker 1>turn water into steam. And so as the water is

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<v Speaker 1>turning into steam, the water is constantly cooling back down

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to keep putting more energy into the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of it to keep it boiling. And because it's

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<v Speaker 1>largely a good thing, because I'm thinking about scenarios in

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<v Speaker 1>which in which like large portions of water um are

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<v Speaker 1>turned to steam instantly, and you're generally talking about an

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<v Speaker 1>explosive situation. You're talking about an expansion of steam that

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<v Speaker 1>can you can have, you know, catastrophic effects. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>want the pot of water you're boiling for spaghetti to

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly become steam all at once, No, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>need massive energy inputs for that kind of thing to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>just because it takes so much energy to turn water

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<v Speaker 1>into steam. And again that's a good thing for your body.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking that energy from the body cools the body off. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when we turn to technological solutions for cooling a space,

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<v Speaker 1>there were actually tons of brilliant inventions or little innovations

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<v Speaker 1>and tweaks in the design of homes and buildings, UH

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<v Speaker 1>for this purpose before the invention of modern like electrical

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioning using heat pumps or refrigeration or anything like that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the accumulation of all these little tweaks, all these little

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<v Speaker 1>advantages that all add up to make hot temperature environments

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<v Speaker 1>more bearable. It reminds me of like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>the argument that you you you win a battle of

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<v Speaker 1>all the small, little advantages to your side, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very much that the case with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>waging war against a hot climate. Let's talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>of these little innovations throughout history. The first is I

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<v Speaker 1>would say the absolute most dirt simple probably doesn't even

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<v Speaker 1>need to be mentioned, but won't mention it anyway. How

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<v Speaker 1>about a roof that's having having a top level covering

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<v Speaker 1>provides shade and that blocks the radiation heating from the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one of the most important innovations in designing

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<v Speaker 1>a cooler space. Yeah, in the same way you would

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<v Speaker 1>take you might take comfort beneath the tree or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>by the side of a cliff, some naturally occurring shade. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we are able to construct our own shade as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course, by having a house that has a

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<v Speaker 1>roof on top if all else fails for keeping the

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<v Speaker 1>house cool at night, one option you would sometimes have

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<v Speaker 1>in the ancient world as you could go out and

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<v Speaker 1>you could sleep up on your roof. This seems to

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<v Speaker 1>have been common, for example, in ancient Egypt, where a

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<v Speaker 1>significant amount of living and sleeping happened on people's rooftops.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. In in past episodes of No I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember it was this show or stuff to blow

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<v Speaker 1>your mind, we talked about some of the ancient cities.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this was in our toilets episodes. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the archaeological remains of cities in which you know

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<v Speaker 1>there were entrances on all the roofs um. But also

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<v Speaker 1>we can look to ancient accounts, say Herodotus writing of

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<v Speaker 1>the hanging gardens of Babylon, or in Jewish lore, King

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<v Speaker 1>David glimpsing Bathsheba bathing uh while resting on the roof

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<v Speaker 1>of the palace. Yeah, I guess the idea is probably

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<v Speaker 1>that it was like nice and cool out in the

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<v Speaker 1>open air on the roof and where also you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be. But there are tons of other little ways

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<v Speaker 1>that once you go beyond just having a structure with

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<v Speaker 1>a roof to block the sun. And you start building

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<v Speaker 1>houses with openings and windows and different hallways and rooms,

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<v Speaker 1>there is uh, there's all this investment in the architecture

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<v Speaker 1>of a house to help aid in cooling. And this

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<v Speaker 1>would include the positioning of windows or other openings, the

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<v Speaker 1>shape of rooms and floors that allow ventilation of the

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<v Speaker 1>inside and encourage cross breeze is to pass through. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>something that I feel like is is less uh is

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<v Speaker 1>thought about less in modern home design is the positioning

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<v Speaker 1>of windows away from direct sun or in the shade.

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<v Speaker 1>I think because houses are designed with the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioning in the mind often these days that there's

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<v Speaker 1>less planning put into Okay, where where are the windows,

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of light are they going to get? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there a tree to shade the window? And so forth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll definitely come back to this in the future. But

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<v Speaker 1>we we we see this, uh, this this trend where

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<v Speaker 1>all these tiny advantages were discussing in the With the

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<v Speaker 1>advent of modern air conditioning, so many of them were

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<v Speaker 1>just abandoned because they weren't seen as useful anymore as

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<v Speaker 1>necessary to keep a cool uh you know, habitat, and

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<v Speaker 1>part of the problem then, is when the air conditioning

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<v Speaker 1>goes away, or when the electricity goes away, whatever is

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<v Speaker 1>disrupting things, you have to fall back on a habitat

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<v Speaker 1>or building that is not built with any of these

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<v Speaker 1>advantages in place, or even if you're not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>using your air conditioning, if you're just considering energy efficiency.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that there are some houses that

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<v Speaker 1>are designed without proper thought about energy efficiency for heating

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<v Speaker 1>and cooling in the house, even if you have modern

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<v Speaker 1>heating and cooling devices. Yeah. I mean when you're when

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<v Speaker 1>you're a kid and you're around air can I remember

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<v Speaker 1>just loving it. I was like, I just love the

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<v Speaker 1>smell of the air conditioning and just wanted on all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. You know, when you're adult and you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>paying the bills, you don't necessarily want the air conditioning

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. It would be nice if it went

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<v Speaker 1>off a few times during the month of August. Uh So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it would be nice to have so many

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<v Speaker 1>of these other little, um, you know, design advantages in

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<v Speaker 1>place as well to just reduce you the necessity of

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<v Speaker 1>running the a C. Here's another design advantage that predates

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<v Speaker 1>modern air conditioning. How about construction that takes advantage of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that warm air rises, also known as the

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<v Speaker 1>chimney effect. So one example of this might be high ceilings.

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<v Speaker 1>Another is top side ventilation including passive roof vents or

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<v Speaker 1>more recently, an attic fan, and so that this can

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<v Speaker 1>be paired with windows to create this ideal airflow situation

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<v Speaker 1>where cool air flows in through open windows on the

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<v Speaker 1>lower floors and then is drawn up through the house

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<v Speaker 1>in a sort of air column that goes up towards

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<v Speaker 1>the attic and towards the roof, creating pressure that pushes

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<v Speaker 1>the warm rising air out through vents in the upper

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<v Speaker 1>floors or in the ceiling of roof. Yeah, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>have one of these attic fans in my house, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's like being a spaceship, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>you can just especially if you have only like one

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<v Speaker 1>window open, you can just create this terrific flow of

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<v Speaker 1>air through the house, which can make a huge difference

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, you get kind of like it's gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a little warm, it's got a little hot inside the house,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a like a nice comfortable temperature drop

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the house. You can easily equalize things like

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<v Speaker 1>that a couple of other things would just be what

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<v Speaker 1>do you make the house out of, Is it insulated

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<v Speaker 1>in the proper way, something that's not going to heat

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<v Speaker 1>up and pass heat from the outside to the inside.

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<v Speaker 1>And then another thing would be the outside color ration

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<v Speaker 1>of the house that can affect how it absorbs heat.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you live in a like a black obelisk or

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<v Speaker 1>do you live in uh, you know, some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a white reflective uh domicile, And it's gonna make a

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<v Speaker 1>huge difference. And back to your point about a heat

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<v Speaker 1>rising uh you know this also you see this in

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<v Speaker 1>designs of you know, older houses with high ceilings. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the heat is going to rise out of

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<v Speaker 1>the area in which you were living. But also you

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<v Speaker 1>look at a lot of modern houses and the reliance

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<v Speaker 1>on a c and where do you see the master bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>You see it on an upper floor, right like it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes more of a selling point of you're you know, saying, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually has a master on the main floor. And

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that has to do with, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>individuals get older. It's nicer to not have to go

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<v Speaker 1>up a flight of stairs in order to get to

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<v Speaker 1>your bedroom. But but also you have to to realize

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to take more to keep that cool up

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<v Speaker 1>there like it's it's it's ultimately from a temperature standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps it's better to have the master bedroom on the

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<v Speaker 1>main floor. Yeah. Absolutely. The one thing I think we

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't forget is how common I mean we mentioned people

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<v Speaker 1>sleep being on the roofs. You shouldn't forget that in

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<v Speaker 1>hot climates, it used to be extremely common for people

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep outside. Oh yes, I was reading about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and in times before air conditioning, and in places where

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<v Speaker 1>there's no air conditioning. Now it's just very common for

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<v Speaker 1>people to sleep on porches in front of their home,

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<v Speaker 1>or on the deck behind their home, or in or

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<v Speaker 1>just up on the roof for somewhere out in the yard.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this remains a way to stay cool at night.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've talked to you about a number of examples

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<v Speaker 1>of passive cooling design, uh, you know, far different from

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<v Speaker 1>the active cooling system that you may have in your

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<v Speaker 1>home or your apartment window. But we also have to

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<v Speaker 1>just consider that many of humanities, the oldest civilizations, they

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<v Speaker 1>resided in some pretty sweltering places. And while perhaps you know,

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<v Speaker 1>such people's were less coddled by temperature control technology. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they still had to do what they could

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<v Speaker 1>to keep things chill. So I ran across a very

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<v Speaker 1>insightful article. This was This was an in g conservation

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<v Speaker 1>and management in two thousand and eight and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a paper by um Hatamapur and A. Betty and it

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<v Speaker 1>considers it concerns the town of the city of Bosher

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<v Speaker 1>in southern Iran. This is a region where today you

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<v Speaker 1>see more than of total annual power consumption going to

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<v Speaker 1>power a c window units. But people have been living

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<v Speaker 1>in this region for at least five thousand years. And

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<v Speaker 1>in this paper the authors point out the various strategies

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<v Speaker 1>that were utilized to keep things cool. Some of these

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<v Speaker 1>we've already discussed, but but just to you know, tie

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<v Speaker 1>them to a specific location in a very long habited

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<v Speaker 1>habitat region of the Earth. They pointed out that the

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<v Speaker 1>buildings were constructed closely together but with spaces for circulation

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<v Speaker 1>around each and they were built in the direction of

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<v Speaker 1>seasonal fresh and cold winds. The lanes were narrow for

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<v Speaker 1>the generation of circulation, and they employed ventilation shafts, balconies, terraces.

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<v Speaker 1>The separation of heat generating spaces such as kitchens. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's another key one, you know, I think about because

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<v Speaker 1>I think a number of us have probably noted, especially

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<v Speaker 1>during the summer, just how hot it gets in the

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen when you're just doing something like cooking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>frozen pizza. You could keep things a lot cooler if

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<v Speaker 1>you made sure that your your kitchen was somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 1>was located in an adjacent building. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the appeals of grilling in the summer,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's nice to be out in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>nice weather while you're cooking, but also the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>gets hot is not inside your house. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great point. Um Also balconies, coverings for direct sunshine,

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<v Speaker 1>windows and walls, trees planted for shading, colored glasses in

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<v Speaker 1>the windows, and wooden screens outside the windows, high roofed buildings,

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<v Speaker 1>light roof colors, and low conductivity materials like gypsum for

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<v Speaker 1>shell walls. So so yeah, I found that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>again insightful considering that you know, this is a region

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<v Speaker 1>that uh, people have been living in for at least

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<v Speaker 1>five five thousand years, and throughout that five thousand history,

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<v Speaker 1>most of it has been without the aid of a

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<v Speaker 1>modern a C unit, but instead of having modern electrical

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<v Speaker 1>air conditioning, they had this sort of army of other

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<v Speaker 1>little ingenious design solutions to help keep things cool. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>every little advantage. And later in the episode we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about one really ingenious system that you see

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<v Speaker 1>especially in ancient Persia. This this city was in ancient Persia.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe we should take a break now and then

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back we can talk about ancient Egyptians

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<v Speaker 1>and ancient Romans. All right, we're back. So the ancient

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<v Speaker 1>Egyptians were known to have employed a simple but really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of ingenious system for for cooling their interior habitats,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was they utilized wet mats of reeds that

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<v Speaker 1>they hung in windows. Water evaporated from the wet mats,

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<v Speaker 1>reducing air temperature in the process, and then a breeze

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<v Speaker 1>is blowing through the window and uh and moving through

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<v Speaker 1>these mats, lowering the indoor temperature. This is the same

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<v Speaker 1>principle that we see later in stuff like the swamp cooler,

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<v Speaker 1>right that uses like evaporation in a window in order

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<v Speaker 1>to do this, And that there are places where this

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<v Speaker 1>is still a pretty common way of cooling your house.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually just like hanging a wet towel and a window,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in conjunction with a fan. Yeah. I've also read

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<v Speaker 1>that it has been common if you're if you have

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<v Speaker 1>laundry that you're drying, you hang them in the window,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're killing two birds with one stone. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course the ancient Romans got in on the act

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<v Speaker 1>in large part thanks to you know, the aqueducts. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They had many advances in plumbing, which we've covered on

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<v Speaker 1>the show before and regards more to sewers, but it

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<v Speaker 1>also meant the Romans had the ability to channel water

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<v Speaker 1>through indoor pipes in certain homes, cooling them in the process. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like they had a few strategies that were

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<v Speaker 1>based on water and evaporation of water. Uh. This next thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to confirm that this story is true, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's reported it in ancient sources, including the Latin text

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<v Speaker 1>known as the Historia Augusta or the Augustine History, that

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<v Speaker 1>the third century Roman emperor Ella Gabalus had snow carried

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<v Speaker 1>down from the mountains to his palace so that it

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<v Speaker 1>could be piled up in a in a mountain of

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<v Speaker 1>snow in his orchard to help keep it cool in

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<v Speaker 1>the summer. Now, I do have to say that that

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<v Speaker 1>this sounds like just an ethically Roman emperor thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I do want to point out that in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventy grade Inventions of the Ancient World, Brian and

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<v Speaker 1>Fagin points out that in az Tech markets you would

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<v Speaker 1>have found mountain ice brought down from the mountains and

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<v Speaker 1>it would have just been available to purchase, at least

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<v Speaker 1>if you were Aztec nobility. Uh, you could purchase it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, that's got another like non Roman example

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<v Speaker 1>of of ice as a regional commodity. Oh yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>this does appear to be in smaller quantities, something that

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<v Speaker 1>did definitely go on in the Roman world. Now, as

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<v Speaker 1>for having the snow brought down from the mountain to

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<v Speaker 1>make a mountain of snow in his garden, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as with many allegations about the decadent behaviors of particular

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<v Speaker 1>Roman emperors, I think sometimes it's hard to know if

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<v Speaker 1>you're reading something that's based in fact, or if it's

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<v Speaker 1>just libel against an unpopular figure or a historical adversary

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<v Speaker 1>of the author. I think there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Roman histories that are full of allegations like this that

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<v Speaker 1>may or may not be true, right, and it also

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<v Speaker 1>had it has an air of the unsensible to it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like they're going to be extremely diminishing returns

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<v Speaker 1>from trying to produce a pile of snow, uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in your palace or wherever. Whereas having a small amount

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<v Speaker 1>of ice, a small amount of snow, uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly what whatever would be able to survive the journey

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<v Speaker 1>could be utilized in an intelligent manner. Potentially. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>does appear to be totally true that in smaller quantities,

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<v Speaker 1>ice and snow transported down from the mountains were stored

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<v Speaker 1>in special cold cellars and sold as a luxury item

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<v Speaker 1>or just used as a luxury item in ancient Rome,

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<v Speaker 1>though most of the other references I was reading two

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<v Speaker 1>imported snow seemed to be about people eating it, not

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<v Speaker 1>making a mountain out of it in their pleasure garden.

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<v Speaker 1>So some wealthy ancient Romans, including the Emperor Nero, are

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<v Speaker 1>said to have eaten snow, sometimes allegedly sweetened with honey

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<v Speaker 1>or with fruit juice or other flavors, of making snow cones. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This this has turned up in preliminary research for a

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<v Speaker 1>potential episode on ice cream. Oh, we gotta do ice cream,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we'll come back to that. But I've also

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<v Speaker 1>seen references to snow being a luxury ittem for Romans

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<v Speaker 1>just to be melted down and drunk like water because

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<v Speaker 1>they believed it was very pure and cold or used

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<v Speaker 1>to chill wine. So yeah, if you you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>were rich and you could shell out for some fresh

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<v Speaker 1>snow from somebody's seller that they had imported down from

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<v Speaker 1>the mountaintop, you know, go for it. Well, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been exotic, it would have So much of

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<v Speaker 1>our appreciation of various beverages has to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>story of it, right, And it's like a it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a fine bottle of wine. It's the lore of the

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<v Speaker 1>wine to a large extent that you're drinking and tasting

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<v Speaker 1>and contemplating. And if you're adding that with the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the properties of watching the snow melt in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the glass, certainly in this era or in a later era,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially having like a piece of an iceberg, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in your beverage. You know that kind of thing. It

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<v Speaker 1>has bizzas. You can't blame them for being into the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was reading somewhere that the philosopher Seneca

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<v Speaker 1>wrote with disdain about youths when they're snow eating, as

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<v Speaker 1>if he was talking about always on their iPhones, always

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<v Speaker 1>eating snow. Either way, carrying snow down a mountain I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and dumping it in a pile in your house is

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<v Speaker 1>not a super efficient way to stay cool overall, considering

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:42.639
<v Speaker 1>all the work needed to hauld the snow down. But

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering, well, would making a big pile of

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:48.920
<v Speaker 1>snow actually be effective at cooling your palace. I think

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:52.119
<v Speaker 1>the answer is potentially yes. Having a large, massive snow

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 1>or ice in a room can actually cool the room

0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:58.159
<v Speaker 1>as the snow melts and then eventually evaporates those phase

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:00.920
<v Speaker 1>transitions like we were talking about before, or will suck

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 1>energy out of the surrounding air, which will cool the

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 1>air in the process. I'm not sure this would do

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>much good just sitting there in an open air orchard.

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.199
<v Speaker 1>But if you were to pair snow or ice with

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>moving air, especially so maybe you've have people constantly flapping

0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:19.120
<v Speaker 1>big fans at the pile of snow, especially in an

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 1>indoor space, I think you could actually get significant cooling effects.

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Even if if you don't have air conditioning in your house,

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:29.719
<v Speaker 1>you can probably somewhat cool room several degrees by like

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>setting up a fan and putting a bottle of frozen

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>water in front of it. This sounds kind of crude,

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>but it actually does work to to circulate colder air,

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and in fact, there are even many large facilities these days,

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>such as large office buildings, that have in recent years

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>replace their traditional electric air conditioning systems with ice based

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 1>cooling systems. I mean on on. On the surface, it

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>can seem completely backwards, right, like you're stepping back into

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:00.919
<v Speaker 1>a more primal, sort of pre a c means of

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>cooling your place. But this is actually, in some cases

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 1>a more energy efficient and more cost effective way to

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>cool a large building. So how on earth would this

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 1>work well? The ice based cooling system takes advantage of

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:17.159
<v Speaker 1>a principle known as load shifting, because energy cost from

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.439
<v Speaker 1>an electrical grid isn't just about the amount of energy

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you use, it's about when you use it. So during

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the daytime on a hot summer, there are these periods

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>of peak demand on power grids when too many people

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>are all trying to draw lots of electricity at the

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>same time to power their energy hungry building cooling needs,

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:38.439
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to result in what like rolling brownouts,

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 1>right or yeah, I mean it's in any case, it's

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 1>like it's putting more demand on the system, and so

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>at these times of day there's more energy and efficiency

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and higher costs instead. Now, many large buildings use this

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:55.399
<v Speaker 1>ice cooling method, which switches it's the building's maximum energy

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>consumption for cooling purposes to night time off hours, and

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the buildings what they do is they have giant water

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.199
<v Speaker 1>tanks that can hold thousands of gallons of water, and

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 1>at night, when electricity demands are low, when power is

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 1>the cheapest, they use that power to freeze the water

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 1>into ice. Then in the daytime they use that ice

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that they made in the night time to chill air

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that is blown throughout the building's ventilation system. The ice

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>melts gradually throughout the day turns into water. Then the

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.919
<v Speaker 1>melted water is frozen again the next night when power

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<v Speaker 1>is cheap again. That is impressive. Yeah, I would, I

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 1>would love to. I mean, of course, one of the

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>issues isn't you know we made very well then in

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.880
<v Speaker 1>buildings they use this and just was not aware. Yeah,

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>we might not know, uh, And and it works because

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>what water is actually an extremely powerful thermal energy storage medium.

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>You can think of these giant tanks full of ice

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>as kind of like a thermal battery which can be

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:53.199
<v Speaker 1>charged whenever energy and puts their cheapest and you charge

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>it by freezing it. But of course these ice based

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 1>methods need to be paired with like fans to circulate

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 1>the chilled air. So we should mention general fan based

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 1>cooling effects, which also go way back into history. Yeah.

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean the simplest version of a fan, of course,

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>as if you have any kind of like suitable fan

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>shaped object that you can just flutter with your hand,

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>big leaf or something. Yeah. And and I think that

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>that's one of those things where it's at some point

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>to humans figure that out just basic tool use. Some

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>of the more one of the more elaborate, but still

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 1>simple and elegant in its simplicity. Uh. One of the

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.640
<v Speaker 1>devices that certainly comes to mind is the punka fans

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>used in India uh from about five b C onward

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>it seems. And these are large sales that are hung

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>from the ceiling and they're flapped manually to circulate air. Um.

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I imagine most of you have seen like some version

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of this, if not like an image of one used

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:53.719
<v Speaker 1>in India or in a depiction of say British occupied India,

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>then then you also see them in other historical settings

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>as well, you know, particularly hanging above like a din

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>or table is of a prime example of what you

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>might see one. Yeah, fans can be a fantastically useful

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>and very energy efficient way to make a room feel cooler.

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a reason you see fans all throughout

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the world and all throughout history. But the interesting thing

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>about fans is I sometimes even forget this myself. Fans

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>And let's well, so, if a fan is moving air

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>in or out of a room, it can change the

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 1>temperature in a room, right, if you're exchanging with an

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>outside system. If you have like a fan, uh, you know,

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>positioned in a window. Yeah, and the and the temperature

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>in the outside is different from the inside, that can

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>actually change the temperature in the room. But fans inside

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>a closed room do not change the temperature of the room.

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>They don't actually cool the room. In fact, and in

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>most cases they probably slightly increase the temperature in the

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>room because you're running an electrical device from the room,

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's heating up somewhat, and so it's probably emitting

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>some heat, so it's moving the air around, but it's

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>not actually making the or any cooler. So why are fans,

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>even in a closed room, so good at cooling us

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>down if they don't actually lower the temperature in the room.

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>This is like a fun little if you want to

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>pause and try to figure this out yourself, if you

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>don't already know the answer. I don't know if it's

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>too didactic, but I had fun trying to figure this

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>last night while I was thinking about it. It's because

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>speeding up airflow increases the rate of evaporation from a

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>body of liquid like water, and essentially you're a water bag.

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Your body is a bag of water, and your body,

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>as we were talking about earlier, cools by evaporation of sweat.

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>So in order for a fan to cool something, that

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>thing actually probably needs to be wet. And I did

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>an experiment like this in my house just last night,

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>using a desk fan and a high accuracy instant read

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>kitchen thermometer. So I set the desk fan going on

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen counter, and I held the thermometer out in

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 1>front of the fan. And even though standing in front

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>of a fan makes us feel cooler, holding a thermometer

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 1>in front of a fan does not really change aange

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the temperature that the thermometer registers. For me, the naked

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>thermometer probe just hovered around room temperature. Even though I

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>held it there for a long time. It didn't do anything.

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>But then I wrapped the thermometer probe in a wet

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>paper towel. Now this naturally dropped the temperature of the

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>thermometer already just because the water is cooler, right, and

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>so the water contact drops it down. Then it's stabilized.

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>And when you put the wet paper towel thermometer in

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>front of a fan, the temperature plummets. It drops down

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>as the circulation created by the fast moving air of

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the fan speeds up the evaporation of water from that

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>wet paper towel, And the faster the water evaporates, the

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 1>colder the paper towel gets because it's stealing the energy

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>from the rest of that water. This rapid air flow

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>robbed the water of energy, made it cooler, and thus

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you get a nice, icy cold paper towel. So when

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>you've got a fan running on you in a room.

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Your body is that paper towel. You're that wet paper towel,

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>accelerating evaporation off the top of your skin. Now the

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>scenario you're again, you're using a desk fan, you using

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a rotary fan. Uh So it's interesting to dive into

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>just you know, briefly the history of the rotary fan,

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>and it seems that the earliest example of this goes

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>all the way back to the Han dynasty in China.

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Han dynasty engineer Ding Juan created a manually operated rotary

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>fan with seven wheels around one a d c uh

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.239
<v Speaker 1>and then later on during the Tang dynasty of the

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>eighth century, hydraulic power was apparently added to this innovation

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>as a way of uh basically for use in blast

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 1>furnaces for industrial you know, um air movement circulation. So

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>flowing water powered the spinning of a fan to circulate air, yeah,

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 1>into a blast furnace. Now, but in Ding Juan's original idea,

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>it would have required, uh, you know, a little human power,

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>like somebody would have been turning a crank or or

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>something in order to manually operate all of these rotary fans. Uh.

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>So Juan's initial invention here was reported in the text

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Mental Miscellaneous Records of the Western Capital and excavations from

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>a former Han tomb in seems to show the necessary

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>parts to carry this out. So the seven fans, so

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>there have been ten feet or three meters in diameter,

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 1>were connected so that one person could power them all. Uh.

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>And this is, of course, UH is another more elaborate

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>means of just circulating airflow, which can can make all

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 1>the difference in a stuffy room. Right. Uh. Now, it's

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>not evaporative cooling, though I've seen at least one wiki

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>lit listing that says Ding Juan had an evaporative cooling system. Uh.

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Decided sources that I ran across on those wikis did

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>not support it. Uh, that they were just talking about

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about, just air circulation. Uh. So there's

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>no evaporation beyond what's happening on your skin. Correct. And

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see it mentioned in um Ian Inkster's The

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>History of Technology, which discusses this. But of course it's

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>entirely within the room of possibility that he can bind

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>a fan system with something like the Egyptian read Matt

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>scenario that we discussed earlier. Having some sort of you know,

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>wet fabric in front of it, but I could not

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>find direct reference to that myself. By the way, Ding

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Juan also allegedly invented something like a zoo trope. According

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to Lance Day and Ian McNeil in Biographical Dictionary of

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the History of Technology, it was a quote zootrope lamp

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>which had a thin canopy bearing veins at the top

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>that were caused to rotate by an ascending current of

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>warm air from the lamp. The canopy bore images which

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 1>if the canopy were rotated fast enough, gave the impression

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>of movement. Wow, it's like a it's like a fan

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>for your eyes. Yeah. Uh, you know. It also shows

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that like this is an individual who was clearly interested in, uh,

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, the combination of of rotary machinery and the

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>movements of air. Uh. And also then just throughout Chinese,

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>ancient Chinese technology, you also see some other interesting advancements

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>in refrigeration, which maybe we'll come back to later on.

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna take a quick break, but when

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>we come back, we shall return to Persia. All right,

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>we're back. One genre of ancient cooling technology for buildings

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:30.360
<v Speaker 1>is i think a really deeply ingenious solution, and we

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>find some great examples in ancient and medieval Persia, which

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>would be in modern day Iran. So this is going

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>to be the idea of wind catchers and a paired

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 1>technology known as connots. And we can start with a

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 1>simple version of the wind catcher that's just focused on

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 1>air flow. So I want you to picture a building

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>with towers reaching up above the roof on each side,

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.879
<v Speaker 1>and each of these towers has four ports that can

0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 1>be opened and closed, and each of these towers is

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:03.399
<v Speaker 1>hollow and it connects down to the occupied space within

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the building. So if the wind is blowing from the west,

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>you would open the west facing ports on the west

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 1>side of the building to accept the incoming air flow

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>into the towers, and then on the other side, you

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>would open only the east facing ports on the east

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>side of the building, so that would be the ports

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>facing away from the wind. Now, due to a couple

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>of quirks of fluid dynamics, if you have a shaft

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>like this that's only open on the side facing away

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 1>from the wind, air will naturally be pulled up from

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>inside the house through that shaft to flow out in

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the same direction as the prevailing wind. I've seen this

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.760
<v Speaker 1>attributed to both the Quanda effect and the Bernoulli effect.

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I have to admit my fluid dynamics knowledge is not

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 1>sharp enough to evaluate whether these characterizations are correct, but

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.839
<v Speaker 1>at least several have definitely attributed it to what's known

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>as the Kwanda effect, which just describes a property of

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 1>air flow and certain scenarios. But anyway, if you've got

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 1>towers on each side of a building, with towers on

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>one side accepting the prevailing wind and and routing it

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>down into the house, and then towers on the other

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>side with a negative pressure allowing wind to be sucked

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>up from the inside to blow out with the prevailing wind,

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 1>it creates a complete circuit of air flow where air

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 1>is sucked down into the house on one side and

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>sucked up out of the house on the other side.

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.879
<v Speaker 1>And you can use this method to help drive hot

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>air out through the roof for the highest level of

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>the house, taking advantage of this chimney principle we discussed

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.240
<v Speaker 1>earlier in the episode. Now, of course, at this stage

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>what I've described so far, this would still just be

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>circulation of hot air from outside. Right now, we know

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that even if airflow doesn't actually cool a room, it

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>can help cool your body if just you you keep

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 1>the air moving because it replaces the air around your

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>skin and helps you evaporate faster. But you can also

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>greatly improve on the wind catcher design and generate a

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>true space cooling effect by pairing it with an underground

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:06.680
<v Speaker 1>reservoir or subterranean water channel called a cannot. Oh wow,

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>So this it's it's almost like we're getting into the

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:12.319
<v Speaker 1>like the creation of an artificial cave system kind of

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to cool the air. So cannot is a chamber of

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>underground water resting or flowing deep in the earth, surrounded

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>by dense layers of rocks, so the water stays cool

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:25.319
<v Speaker 1>even on the hottest days, and it can be used

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 1>for several things. I think from what I've seen, it

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 1>seems like it's most often used to sort of help

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:35.880
<v Speaker 1>channel water down underground from from higher level water tables

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>up in higher elevations so that the water can be

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>brought down for irrigation in lower lying areas. But in

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>any case, it's underground water. It's a channel of underground water,

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and the water stays very cool because it's deep underground,

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>so like even when the sun heats up the top

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>of the Earth's surface, it's not heating up that deep

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>bedrock below. Now picture this. You've got one shaft leading

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.800
<v Speaker 1>down from the surface down into the cannot that looks

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>like it works like an intake shaft, and this can

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.760
<v Speaker 1>be outside the house, drawing in dry air from the desert.

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>And then there's another shaft leading up from the same

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:15.240
<v Speaker 1>cannot into the house, into the inside of the house

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>or whatever space you want to cool. And this is

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>paired with an outflow wind catcher facing away from the wind,

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>which naturally sucks air up from the inside of the house.

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>So the circuit created here pulls air from the outside

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>down through the first shaft through the cannot to flow

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 1>over and around the cold water down there in the

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>deep earth, and then up the second shaft into the house,

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 1>and the dry air passing through the cold humid environment

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 1>of the cannot becomes much cooler as it travels, and

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the result is that you have cold air pulled up

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.839
<v Speaker 1>into the house and flowing, which I think it's just brilliant. Yeah,

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a it's it's one of these systems

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>that is um it's it. It's at once kind of

0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>simple when you when you have it all explained to you,

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>but it is especially considering, you know, ancient buildings we

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>were talking about it, but pretty elaborate system here. And

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've actually, I don't know if you ran

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>across any modern uses of this, but I read a

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>couple of references to UH designs for like large sports

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>facilities that utilize at least some version of this to

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.879
<v Speaker 1>try and keep air circulating through um, you know, through

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>through the uh the sports arena. Oh okay, well, because

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 1>right if you've got like a sports arena, it sounds

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:33.359
<v Speaker 1>crazy to try to like air condition that with like

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>with just electric air condition so just the sheer scale

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 1>if the building might require you know, a more you know,

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>less you know, electricity dependent method, and perhaps I don't know,

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 1>it seems like the kind of thing that that could

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 1>potentially be utilized in large industrial spaces as well, But

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't run across any examples of that. Well, I

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know about the scalability of this kind of technology,

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>but maybe, yeah, I I just don't know, but I

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>do know they're they're ancient examples where things like this

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 1>were used pretty effectively to keep some sellers and basements

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and and dwellings very very cool, and even to the

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>point where they could be used to store ice in

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>hot places like in Persia. Now we mentioned India earlier

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 1>on the subject of fans uh, but I want to

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 1>return to India once more, particularly to the use of

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>step wells and also step ponds. So as Morna Livingstone

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.959
<v Speaker 1>and Milo Beach point out in the book Steps to Water,

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the Ancient step Wells of India quote, the alternating absence

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>and abundance of water is crucial to Indian life, and

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the step wells and stepped ponds generated by the use

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>of water are especially imaginative. So basically what they're saying

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>is that much of the subcontinent is subject to intense months,

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>soon seasons and intense dry spells, and during the dry

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:57.800
<v Speaker 1>spells people need communal access to water UH. And during

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the wet spells, the places they would go for unal access,

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of course they're going to be likely to flood and

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>UH and greatly. And so this communal UH connection with

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>water is an important aspect of Indian life. A prime

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>example of this is it would be there the stepped

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>access that you see to the Ganges River in urban

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>areas U and think everyone's probably seen images of that,

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially with religious rights and so forth taking

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 1>place close to the water. But a far less famous,

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>less visited and even less preserved example would be the

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:34.879
<v Speaker 1>step ponds and the step wells. Uh. These are beautiful,

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 1>by the way, if you've never looked up images of them,

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>it is some of the most just sort of like

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 1>eye rending architecture I've ever seen, and it's actually not

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>all that complicated, is just like geometrically dazzling. Yeah. I

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 1>like to think of it this way. A mountain is

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 1>to a canyon as a ziggurat or a Mesoamerican pyramid

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>is to an Indian step. Well, it looks like there's

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 1>a hole in the ground and someone like took a

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>zigaratt out of it and left a ziggarat shape in

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 1>the earth descending into the earth inverted zigaratte. Yeah. So

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 1>like imagine these many lattices or steps going down, uh

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>to a ridiculous degree. Yeah. Yeah, they're essentially deep holes

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>in the earth, dug down to the water table and

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 1>then built out. So there's you know, generally a tear

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>there's terrorist access with stairs leading down to it um.

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 1>And one of the points that the author's made in

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>this book is that while generally you think of like

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:36.320
<v Speaker 1>a journey into the deep earth, you know, like it

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 1>would be it would be claustrophobic, it would be frightening.

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:42.359
<v Speaker 1>But that's not the sense you get when you look

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>at the photographs of stepwells, like it is. It is open,

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 1>it is inviting, it is It's not a sense of

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the earth closing around you, but instead one of opening

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>up like a flower. They're yeah, they're beautiful, and why

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>do I get kind of an m C. S sure

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>sense from them? Yeah, there is kind that I think

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 1>part of it is that sort of inversion scenario you get.

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>It is like an inverted ziggarat when you look at it,

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and yet you're you're you're sort of climbing up, but

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you're climbing down. Um. So. The main distinction though, between

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 1>step ponds and step wells, according to Livingston and Beach,

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>is that step ponds were used for bathing and step

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.359
<v Speaker 1>wells were use more for daily water use. Now, many

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 1>of these have fallen into disrepair or have been abandoned

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.840
<v Speaker 1>in in recent years, in part because of falling water table.

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, which renders them dry and useless, but also

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:38.720
<v Speaker 1>due to the period of British colonial rule in which

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the British condemned them as being you know, potential disease

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 1>of vectors and so forth. But there has been increased

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>interest in them in recent years to preserve their cultural importance,

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>but also, you know, to preserve them as potential water

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:56.279
<v Speaker 1>sources and a changing climate. Now, obviously these things are

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>architecturally beautiful and you can see their importance as a

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 1>commune a water source, but how do they relate to

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the idea of air conditioning or cooling of spaces. Well,

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, some of them are more out in the open,

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, get kind of a sense of almost like

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a you know, it's like a you could easily mistake

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>them for some sort of ornate swimming pool sort of

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:19.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, construction. But others are other step wells are

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 1>part of temple palace or other urban complexes. So they're

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>part of this other, this, this larger structure. And here

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, they were, of course a means of access

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>in cool water, which in and of itself is a

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:35.320
<v Speaker 1>cooling resource. Livingstone and Beach point out that splashing one's

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 1>face with cool water is a standard Indian means of

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 1>coping with the heat. A step well affords this cooling method.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>It also affords one the ability to enjoy the shade

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>via the terraces. Or if you've got like hot dry air,

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:52.959
<v Speaker 1>you could also have evaporative cooling there. Yeah. Yeah, Also

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.320
<v Speaker 1>you can rest against the cool stone. That was That

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 1>was one example they brought up that I didn't think

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 1>of in the early portion of the podcast. Is it

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>It's You can also just like if you find some

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>cool rock to lay upon, that can be used as

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 1>a very primitive form of air conditioning. But they have

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.359
<v Speaker 1>they have a wonderful quote in the book about uh

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:16.720
<v Speaker 1>evaporative cooling via the step well quote. In dry weather,

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the step wells pool provides some evaporative cooling, but in

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 1>high humidity, cooling happens only through contact with water. Unlike

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a running fountain, still water and step wells evaporates little.

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 1>A moisture saturated layer forms over the water surface, and

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 1>if it is not ruffled by a breeze or broken

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>by splashing, it acts as a vapor barrier. Thus, in

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 1>hot humid weather, the body does not get cooled as

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:44.280
<v Speaker 1>quickly in a step well as it does in air conditioning. Indeed,

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 1>step well air feels breathlessly still. Okay, so if it's

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 1>humid outside and the air isn't moving, the step well

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>isn't gonna have much of a cooling effect. But if

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you had like hot, dry air and a breeze blowing

0:45:57.520 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 1>through moving the air along the surface of the step all,

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 1>if it was moved by humans somehow, then it sounds

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>like you're in business right. However, the humidity is gonna

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 1>also serve to conserve the water, so it has that

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 1>going forth at any rate. These are again we do

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 1>encourage you to do a Google image search on uh

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 1>Indian step wells and take a look at something. There's

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>also some wonderful like top ten step well images. Uh there.

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>It makes for some just wonderful architectural photography. We'd love

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to also hear from anyone who has had the chance

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:30.880
<v Speaker 1>to visit. These are some of the resources I was

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I was looking at pointed out that you know these

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 1>are these have at least in recent years. I don't

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:38.600
<v Speaker 1>know if it's changed, but in the past it's been

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 1>a situation where these places, despite just how beautiful they are,

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>they haven't been a sought out by tourists uh and

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and and sightseers in India. But perhaps that is changing

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 1>again as as more conservation has been directed at them

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 1>and perhaps just more just sort of appreciation for what

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 1>they are. Yeah, all right, well, I think that probably

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 1>does it for today. But the next episode, in part

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>two of our exploration of air conditioning, we're gonna get

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 1>more into the modern air conditioner that's based on refrigeration chemistry. Right,

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 1>but we've hopefully we've we've laid the groundwork for those innovations,

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Like like we've shown you what was possible in the

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:22.680
<v Speaker 1>age before these new technological advancements, and it's pretty impressive,

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. I think I think a lot of us

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 1>are going to be surprised because we have we are

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 1>so coddled by modern air conditioning. We think that the

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 1>different that there's basically a distinction between having a C

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and just sweltering, and we don't realize that there are

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 1>all these uh these smaller things that can and have

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:44.399
<v Speaker 1>been done to help ensure a less sweltering environment. Yeah.

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 1>So so many people now live in an a C

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:49.879
<v Speaker 1>tamed world. If the a C is cut off, they

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 1>don't have all of the normal coping mechanisms that you

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:55.680
<v Speaker 1>would have to to get around that heat. It's a

0:47:55.719 --> 0:48:00.120
<v Speaker 1>fundamental softening of our defenses against the evil sun. We

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>will return to air conditioning in the next episode of Invention.

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, check out past episodes at invention pod

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 1>dot com and indeed let us know you know what,

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 1>what is your relationship with air conditioning and particularly what

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 1>is your relationship with some of these these alternative methods

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>of dealing with the heat. Do you still employ some

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