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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode three. We have on the girls from

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Speaker 1: Tiger Lily, their sisters, and just how their whole story

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Speaker 1: came together. It's it's it's pretty amazing. Here is a

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Speaker 1: clip of Somebody does from Tiger Lily's Crazy in the Morning.

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Speaker 1: Somebody enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not that I didn't think I would enjoy it. I

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Speaker 1: just didn't know them, But I really enjoyed this interview,

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Speaker 1: So hang out for that. Top five releases this week,

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Speaker 1: Thomas Rhett has a new song called Slow Down Summer.

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Speaker 1: You can't see down fast In this song fine never

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Speaker 1: seen them Riding. At number four, Post Malone and The

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Speaker 1: Weekend have a new song called one Right Now, Thank

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Speaker 1: You So Easy, I Got one coming. At number three

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Speaker 1: Low Cash they have a new EP called Woods and

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Speaker 1: Water and here's a new song called Beach Boys. Let's

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Speaker 1: stick Cavery saying Tennessee catch you, John Cantamaran, get a

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Speaker 1: the bottom Mum. At number two, Dina Carter released the

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Speaker 1: anniversary edition of her album Did I Shave My Legs

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Speaker 1: for This? There is a new version of Strawberry Wine

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Speaker 1: with Lauren Elena, Martina McBride, Ashley McBride, Kylie Morgan and

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Speaker 1: Vince gil on guitar on the banks of the river.

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Speaker 1: Wrong well, Vaden past. It's funny how those memories the

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Speaker 1: last Extrawberry one sad and at number one, Tanil Towns

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Speaker 1: has a new song called Villain and Me Boys, whats

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Speaker 1: I save? Allless things about myself found to the heavy

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Speaker 1: he rolled to bruce me to mine. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 1: villain in the ere. You go check out some new

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Speaker 1: music this week and let's get over and here the

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Speaker 1: interview with Tiger Lily. Thanks for having yeah, sorry that

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Speaker 1: we'll be used against. Sorry. I got delayed a few

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Speaker 1: hours today and I called Mike and I said, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: these girls want to cancel on me. I get it.

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Speaker 1: But thanks for being flexible and coming up here a

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Speaker 1: couple of hours later, your big stars. Now you know

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Speaker 1: I had to, you know, blow off big stars. I

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Speaker 1: was having a minor, minor medical emergency today. No I'm not,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I'm still. I am fine. Feel like

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Speaker 1: I might say no I'm not. You guys are like

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Speaker 1: they really sold out for us. Um No, but I'm great,

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Speaker 1: So it's good to finally meet you guys. So your sisters.

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Speaker 1: Who's the two year older sister? But I look younger

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Speaker 1: because I tell the chubby cheeks like that'll keep me

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Speaker 1: I'm so Kendra Krista. Yes, you would almost think you

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Speaker 1: And I asked Mike, as it, are they twins, and

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Speaker 1: You also can't tell who's older and who's younger. Um,

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Speaker 1: Kendra Chris. Yes, and we actually have another little sister, Carly.

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Speaker 1: worth the lead vocalists, Yes, so I do all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: My songs are better. My songs are better. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Shay sings his face off and it's fantastic. But Dan

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Speaker 1: But we are just so straightforward and our are rebound rate.

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Speaker 1: put that out there, so don't look it up. But

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00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: it went viral within the state. And that was a

428
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: sophomore in high school, and that gave us cred to

429
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: go to our the We were the openers. If a

430
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,959
Speaker 1: big act would come into town, they would ask us

431
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: to open. So they gave us so much trust and credibility.

432
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,239
Speaker 1: And we would go to our schools when we were

433
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: still in high school and give speeches and play at

434
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 1: at different schools around the state too, which is a

435
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: really good way for us to get in front of

436
00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: our own peers and have people have an ability to

437
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: know who we are. And so yeah, we kind of

438
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: just became the girls. Like if you had a gig

439
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: or if you had um, you know, an opening slot

440
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: called Tigerli, so that became what we did. Allow me

441
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 1: to be ignorant for a second. Who else from North

442
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: Dakota has made it in music or just general? The

443
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 1: celebrities are Carson Wentz obviously, football player Josh Tohmel actor

444
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: um Haagy Lee was the last person to be signed

445
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 1: by a major record label. If correct me if I'm wrong,

446
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: I think that's right. So it's been, It's not much so.

447
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: Whiz Khalifa was born in my not North Yes, on

448
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: the Air Force base. Though. Okay, well you know with Whiz,

449
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 1: I think of Pittsburgh. You know, I think you're big.

450
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: But I don't know if he claims that, but I

451
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: do know that I only feel like I can ask

452
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: these questions with general curiosity. That not being an insult

453
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: because people ask me the same craft about Arkansas and

454
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 1: they're like, what comes from Arkansas? And I'm like, well,

455
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: Johnny Cash for the Orioles in nineteen I mean, you know,

456
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: so it's it's pretty cool that you have your state

457
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: behind you, because that does give you some confidence coming here.

458
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: But I assume when you and I know that's true,

459
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: when you come to Nashville, it's like you're starting over

460
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 1: nobody gives a crap, but we knew that at least.

461
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: So there's and I say this in the most complimentary way,

462
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 1: there's a hundred versions of you out there and you're

463
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 1: just trying to gasp for air to find how you're

464
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: different and what your sound is. So when you decide

465
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: to move to Nashville, you pack up a truck. This

466
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: is it the U haul? What do you do? Our

467
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: parents helped us drive down. Did Grandma grandpa even come? Yeah? Yeah,

468
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: I think our grandma grandpa, whole family thing. We just

469
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: from North Dakota to Nashville, drove down and we so

470
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: we were moving to Nashville. And then we actually signed

471
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: up for college at Belmont and Mt s U UM

472
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: and we like register for classes at both because we

473
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: didn't know really how we were going to get down

474
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: here and what the way was yet. And then we

475
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: realized that tuition, since we were in state, was about

476
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: the same at Belmont as it was at Mt SU

477
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: And then we got some grants to go to Belmont

478
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: UM and things like that, so it ended up working.

479
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: We so we both started out at Belmont as sophomores,

480
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: which is why a lot of people think we're twins

481
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: as well, because we graduated at the same time. So

482
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: you guys went and finished school. Then when yeah, we

483
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: have our music business degrees. Baby, Well I thought the

484
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: story was you went, you said, okay, schools not for me.

485
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: We tried it, We're going to do music. But you

486
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: came back. I I. She had to pull me a

487
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: little bit. Kendra cried on her first day school, like

488
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: I can't go back to this. What am I doing?

489
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: What are you guys doing at Belmont? Then? Are you learning?

490
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: Are you vocal? Or did music business? Yeah? Because we were,

491
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean we we kind of thought we were writing

492
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: songs so much and doing so much that we want

493
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: We wanted knowledge in my contracts and know what it

494
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: meant in a different area. And so um we went

495
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: from music business and got that degree. Finished up during COVID,

496
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: so we never actually like walked to the stage, but

497
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: after just finished twenty Yeah, so you're playing as you're

498
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: going to school. Yes, So Nashville looks like the earliers

499
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: of Nashville. You just really hit it hard because when

500
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: you moved to town, everybody is says you have to

501
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: do everything right away. You have to really just network

502
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: and bust your button, try to do everything you can.

503
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: So we're going to school full time, playing three or

504
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: four times downtown Nashville on Broadway. So it's four hour sets,

505
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: three times a week to make a living. So you

506
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: wanted to stay in Nashville, you know, and writing three

507
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: I guess three times a week. So we had no

508
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: social lives, I mean, which is okay. I mean, that's

509
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: how we met all of our people. But um, that's

510
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: just what you got to do when you came to Nashville.

511
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: And there were times we were exhausted and why are

512
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: we doing this? We're playing all these four hour gigs

513
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: and it feels like no one's listening. What's the point?

514
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: I feel like that today? It never leaves you ext

515
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: Why am I doing this? So that never leaves? But

516
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: you do it because yeah, you still somehow even when

517
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 1: you feel like, oh, I don't know if I can

518
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: do this another day, then you just you keep doing

519
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: it because what else are you going to do? Because

520
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: this is all you've known and done and what else

521
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: is still this is still better than something else, you

522
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And we told ourselves when we

523
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: moved down here, we want to do whatever it takes

524
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: to make a living off of music. That's always been

525
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: our day one, our bottom line, make a living off

526
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: of music, doing whatever kind of gigs you can, but

527
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: do music. And so that's why we started playing downtown

528
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, we can meet so many cool

529
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: people downtown because you have people people don't realize. It's

530
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: all parts of America and other countries coming to Nashville

531
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: to see country music. And so you're gonna meet all

532
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: these new people. And we got to play our original songs.

533
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's exhausting gigs, but we made that work.

534
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: Put the banner up so people can follow you on Instagram. Yeah,

535
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: but it's all worth it. And I don't know, there's

536
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: just no one straight line to success, but we just

537
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: did whatever it took. Honestly, I think that straight ish

538
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: line to success. And this is as cliche as possible,

539
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: but it's just grinding it out, hard work and not

540
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: quitting when you should probably quit, can quit. If you

541
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: can make it past that point, that's usually when the

542
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: as things happen. If you start thinking, maybe this isn't

543
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: for me, it's not. It should be so difficult, you

544
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: have to question yourself, and when questioning yourself, you should go, Yeah,

545
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: that's right, I am doing this. It's it's stupid and

546
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: and it's it's people shouldn't be doing this, but I

547
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: want to do it. I'm going to do it. Someone's

548
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 1: going to do it, so it might as well be using.

549
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: So you're where did you start playing in Nashville? Because

550
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: you got to make those calls? Yeah, so we first

551
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: the first bar was at Nudi's Honky Talk. So our

552
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: parents loved that when we called and said, hey, mom

553
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: and dad, we you know we're playing at Nudi's. How

554
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: did you get the gig? Did you call yourself and

555
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: like hustle on the phone. I don't remember had it.

556
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 1: We had to audition, but I think our drummer at

557
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: the time had a connection there and was like, hey,

558
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 1: do you guys want to jump in on this gig?

559
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: You have to do an audition thing. And so we

560
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: did the audition. I remember we missed class for the audition.

561
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: It was so personal audition when you to go and

562
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: play for like we play the four hour gig. The

563
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: audition was a full four hour. They said, hey, we'll

564
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: give you a really I mean not crappy, but yeah,

565
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: Monday morning shift, there's no one it's very low risk

566
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: for them obviously if we suck. So they're basically seeing

567
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: if we can play for four hours and entertain the crowd.

568
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: And they liked us enough to keep us around. And

569
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: then we played at Bailey's, which is now a different bar.

570
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: It's lucky. Let me stop for a second. You're playing

571
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: four hours in your first gig. Do you have four

572
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: hours of material or you have an hour and a

573
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: half that you're just kind of occasionally different. No, we

574
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: didn't repeat songs. We sat down and learn what it's.

575
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: I think on our set list is sixty five songs,

576
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: but then you take requests the whole time as well,

577
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: so you at least if no one requests the song

578
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: during the entire four set, you can play sixty five

579
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: songs and right away, you know, I didn't have all

580
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: those lyrics memorized, but I knew everything well enough to

581
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: get through four hours of material. Now we've done it

582
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: so much to where I have most things requested or

583
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: um on our set list memorized, which is crazy, because

584
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: I was terrified out of my mind when we started

585
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: doing that, because we were so spoiled the North Dakota. Honestly,

586
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: we were so spoiled because nine Minutes paid very well

587
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: to our ninety minute sets, half originals, half covers, even

588
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: half hour opening sets for really cool people. Um, we

589
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: did have a We had a pretty good attitude coming

590
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: down there. Though we weren't like, oh, We're the best

591
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: thing ever to happen to Nashville. We knew we were

592
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: starting over, so we kind of had to go back

593
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: to ground zero again and learn all these songs, but

594
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: which actually was a great thing for us. So thank

595
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: you so much better because of everything that you were

596
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: forced to learn. Oh. I even listened to my voice

597
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: four years ago and like, how much more relaxed I

598
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: sing now, And how much I've grown into my voice

599
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: just from singing all these cover songs and honestly, just

600
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: the wear and tear of the voice. I think it's

601
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: given me some more rasp and like do we smoke

602
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: or do we play Broadway? Cannot tell? But no, it's

603
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: I would encourage any artist you know wanting to get better.

604
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: It's a little terrifying, but it kind of throws you

605
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: in right away and you have to figure it out.

606
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: You sink or swim kind of situation basically. But then

607
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: after we did those two bars. We got an audition

608
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: shift at dirt Alas Whiskey Row, and that's the place

609
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: where we've ended up and loved just every you know,

610
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: not every minute, but that's been a great place for

611
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: us because the vibe there and the people that come

612
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: in and it's really just fit what we do um

613
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: with the crowd. So we did a Sunday morning audition

614
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: shift there and then we they liked us, so they

615
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: gave us the really late night shifts and then we

616
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: started to get the weekend shifts and the night shifts

617
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: and now, um, we still play. We only have a

618
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: few gigs left for this year, but we still if

619
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: we're in town, we'll play Saturdays from like two thirty

620
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: to six thirty because we just we can't say it.

621
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: We're like, we can't stop. What's what's the money situation there?

622
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: Do you guys make pretty good on tips? So you

623
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: make this year post COVID the tips are literally insane. Yeah,

624
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happened. I don't know if people

625
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: just want to spend money or if or if we've

626
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: just become maybe better or if they I don't know

627
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: what the reason is. But so you make a little

628
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: bit off the bar, and everyone always asked this. You

629
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: make like a small small fee off your base rates,

630
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: but most of the money comes through tips and people

631
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: just requesting or people just loving what you do. And uh,

632
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: that's another reason why it'd be hard hard for us

633
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: to just ever I want to give that up, because

634
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: you just you really make great money down there if

635
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: you're doing it in a right way. The interesting thing

636
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: about you guys here today, and I haven't really had

637
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: this experience with any artist yet, is that you have

638
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: a published do you have a record? Do? And And

639
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm again I'm gonna be as compliment or as possible

640
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: because I mean this in the best way. Yeah, you're

641
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: still playing Dirk's bar. I know it. You have a you,

642
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: they're manager, their label, your publicist even even hey, even

643
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: hoity Twitterer, your publicist. When you say it like that, no, listen,

644
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: I got them all. And so I know on the

645
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: scale you know that to have your own publicist yet

646
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: to still be playing a bar on Broadway right now,

647
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that. And you guys have real heat

648
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: on you. I'll say it again because as of the

649
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: direction you're going, you could easily probably just go hey,

650
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: we're too good for this right now. We really want

651
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: to focus on but but you haven't. And I think

652
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: it says a lot where you come from. I think

653
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: it says a lot to you have obligations that you're

654
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: going to fulfill and that you just want to keep playing.

655
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: So I actually say that in a wonderful way, that

656
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: it will be freaking crazy if I walk down and

657
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: you guys are playing. People don't even know they should

658
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: actually come to a show, because that's not random people playing.

659
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: It's somebody that you that you can already see big

660
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: things starting to happen for which has been fun because

661
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: this year, a lot of people who have seen us

662
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: in the past, you know, come down and they say,

663
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: we want to see you because we know you're gonna

664
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: be done with this soon, and you know we probably

665
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: will be. It is we always said we don't have

666
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: to do Broadway anymore, when if we ever get a

667
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: record deal or if we ever get a publishing deal,

668
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: we don't have to do this anymore. But we've it's

669
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: been hard for us to totally just cut it off

670
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: just because it's, first of all, just been our source

671
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: of income. It's been our source of building fans it's

672
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: been so much for us in the past few years

673
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: that total really just cut it off. You know, when

674
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: we did get these deals would have Terrif it was terry,

675
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: it was still terrifying, and we're still terrified. Totally just

676
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: cut it off, even though we can be absolutely fine

677
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: without Well, it's also not you know, just speaking honestly,

678
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: you don't get a record deal and be a millionaire. No, no,

679
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: no, no no. You get a record deal and you have

680
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: the opportunity to hopefully possibly make some money maybe eventually.

681
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: But but it means somebody's going to spend money on you, right,

682
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: They're investing in you, yes, and and that's really the

683
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: hardest thing to get in this talent is for somebody

684
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: to believe in you and spend their own money in you,

685
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: because that means they see dollars, and dollars means they

686
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: see something you guys could produce for them. It's all

687
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: the business. But absolutely, you don't get to be in

688
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: the business unless somebody believes that you're pretty good. And

689
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: so you're playing how many more I gotta know, how

690
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: many more these dark shows do you have at the

691
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: bar the rest of the year. We only have three? Okay,

692
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: you guys have to go to these shows. I'm telling

693
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: my people listen to this right now the next three Saturdays,

694
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: next three Saturdays from two six thirty, and then we

695
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: honestly in the new year, really don't know what's going

696
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: to happen anymore. I do know if it were me,

697
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do anymore. So maybe three more total. Yep,

698
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: you gotta admit, Mike, that's pretty awesome. It's awesome. We

699
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: just don't have I don't have people because we're at

700
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: my house right now. I don't heck or even the

701
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: radio show. I just don't have people at my house

702
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: who I don't think are going to be stars, have

703
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: been stars or creating stars. And so the fact that

704
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: you guys, I feel that way about you YouTube, that

705
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: you're still playing these shows like people have to go,

706
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: they have to go. I'm selling tickets. I felt. Yeah,

707
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: So I do want to play some of your music,

708
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: and I want to get back into your life. I'm

709
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: very interested in it. But here is track one off

710
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: the Tiger Lily EP. This is my thing written by YouTube,

711
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: and my buddy Walker hates I'm still making me goes.

712
00:34:52,840 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep doing my keep danger whatever that he

713
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: wrote that with Walker, I'm assuming before fancy, like was

714
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: Mike did Walker open the show for me in North Dakota?

715
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: You know? Was that one Walker? Because Walker was on

716
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: the road with me for about a year. He came

717
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: and we we um, you know, toward and he was

718
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: the middle act, and he would get the crowd up

719
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,479
Speaker 1: and then I would go and just half half bomb

720
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: and half be great. But he was always great, and

721
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: we became really close friends. And I actually was with

722
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: him this morning a little bit and he's tired, which

723
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: is the best, like embrace and you two are going

724
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: to deal with this too. I mean he was exhausted.

725
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: I had him and we were doing some stuff together.

726
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: He was so tired that I was like, I don't

727
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: even know you right now, but but I knew him

728
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: because I am that way too. I've had some parts

729
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: of my career where it's just been overload and you're like,

730
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: you get a lot of things at once, and you're like,

731
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: I have to do them because we're working so hard

732
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: to do them. I'm not gonna say no, um, but

733
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: it's I can I can hear the Walker Hayes a

734
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: little influence in the song too. Yeah, Yeah. That was

735
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: our first rite with Walker actually, and we were the

736
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: first time we had met him and also the first

737
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: time I wrote it Smacked. Yeah, it was a lot

738
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: of first It was kind of like, oh, we're actually

739
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: getting some attention to where we feel kind of important

740
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: right now and very nervous because we didn't want to

741
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: mess it up. We I think we were fifteen minutes

742
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: early for this podcast, by the way, because we're just

743
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, we're very timely people and don't want to

744
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: mess anything up. Ever, because I'm so hard, I'm timely.

745
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: You're right on time. She keeps me on time. But anyways,

746
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: we walk into Smack Publishing and Walker's then we were

747
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: already big fans of him and we thought he was

748
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: really cool. Um, you broke up with me, big fans

749
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: of all that stuff. Um. But the coolest thing about

750
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: Walker is he had no idea we had anything going

751
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: on whatsoever. All his publisher told him was, hey, you

752
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: want to write with these two two girls, sister. I

753
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: mean he didn't have to, he didn't have to write

754
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: with us at all. But um, we all vibe really

755
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: well because we don't throw anything away every you know

756
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: that he has all about the weird ideas obviously, words

757
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: to chill with the words man like us every words

758
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: basically a rapper. I mean, I think one of his

759
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: biggest influences mckailmorey says or something he actually love macolm

760
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: or something. But anyways, we had such a blast spreading

761
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: my thing. We were talking to him just about our

762
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: story and basically we're like, hey, no matter what happens,

763
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: we're just gonna keep doing our thing in music and life.

764
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: And that's one of the best things have happened for us.

765
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: So we wrote that story. And also we're in our

766
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: early twenties and all just about life, relationships, career and

767
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: just all the things you go through in your twenties, thirties, whatever.

768
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: Doesn't really stop, I guess at any age. So people

769
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: have told me from listening to this song, but he

770
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: is so cool and uh we love Look we wrote

771
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: another one on the EP two with him. Well, you

772
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: make a good point. You never actually stopped doing your

773
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: thing no matter what age you are, exactly, So fifties, sixties, seventies,

774
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: you have a different version when you get older, exactly.

775
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: Somebody does I know, because I've programmed the Women of

776
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: Our Country show it's a national show that I do,

777
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: and um I put this in as not only that,

778
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: but the spotlight artists on our on my Countdown thank you,

779
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: thank you so much. We didn't know about that, and

780
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: we saw it the radio stations on Contact. No one

781
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: told us and someone was DM me Nust being like,

782
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna be on Bobby Bones and I'm like,

783
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: I was like, don't get excited about this. I was like,

784
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: this is probably spam. And then we were like in

785
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: Cool Springs at them all eating Chinese food and we

786
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: were like, oh, this is real, and we were so psyched.

787
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: So thank you. So funny because usually what happened to

788
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: someone because the Countdown show is massive, two hundred cities

789
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: and stations in different countries. But someone from that Countdown

790
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: show calls somebody I don't know who they called. They go, hey,

791
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on. Here's some assets if you want

792
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: to post them. If not, don't worry about it. But

793
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: the fact that someone to hit you up like hey,

794
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna be on that, that's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. Like

795
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: our fans was telling us because they heard it on

796
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: their local station basically, and they were like, you guys

797
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: are gonna be on the Bobby Bones Show tomorrow. I'm like,

798
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: what here is that song? Somebody does get out with

799
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: some data looks somebody does you know? With you? Guys?

800
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: Where did was it social media that made other people

801
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: look at you that hadn't looked so so far? The

802
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: people do you haven't played in front of the people

803
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: you haven't been in the room with. Wasn't playing music

804
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: on TikTok? Where so much said hey we need to

805
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: pay attention to these girls. Yeah, I mean a combination

806
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: of things. We feel like we've been doing social media

807
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: for so long. We used to do YouTube a lot.

808
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: Being from North Dakota, you just how two otherwise you

809
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: didn't reach anyone else. Um. Then we started Instagram and Twitter,

810
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: and then during the pandemic we got on TikTok because

811
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: we were just bored out of our minds and I

812
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: really were canceled, like what do we do? I was

813
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: totally anti TikTok because I was like, I cannot dance,

814
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: I can't do any of this stuff. And you know,

815
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: we started posting covers that we had learned for literally

816
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: Broadway gigs, and people started catching on. And then we

817
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: posted a tidbit of somebody does posted it on TikTok

818
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: and reels. It actually went more viral on reels reels,

819
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: which is interesting. A lot of people don't know that.

820
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: They always say TikTok, but it actually went more viral

821
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Um, and so that was the most viral

822
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: we'd had an original song go before, and we we

823
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: didn't write it to be viral. I know a lot

824
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: of people ask, like, do you think about the viral,

825
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: like the virability when you're writing now, And honestly, we

826
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: don't at all, because that is too much to think

827
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: about wild just writing music. Also, yeah, I didn't want

828
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: to cater songs to TikTok either. No, I mean, you

829
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: can always find ways to market songs after you write them.

830
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, was the first time we had really felt

831
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: a song go viral and we had we I think

832
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: we have over five dred thousand followers on TikTok now,

833
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: and our Facebook and Instagram have really increased in the

834
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: last year. And that's just all because we've been posting

835
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: videos of us singing or you know, my husband will

836
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: dance or jump in a dancing video of us through

837
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: doing a stupid dance or things like that. Um. But yeah,

838
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: social media has been really great to us, and I

839
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: think about how many shows you'd have to play to

840
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: reach that many people. And if you use social media

841
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: in a great way, it can do really great things

842
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: for you. The first that my thing was that the

843
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: one you said that really hit first on social media. No,

844
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: somebody does Well. We had covers go viral, like we

845
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: did Can't Helpful and Love by Elvis, and we did Landslide.

846
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: People really love the like angelic Harmony things from us,

847
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: so we would do a lot of that. Um and

848
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: that stuff went viral, and then Somebody Does was the

849
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: first probably original to go viral. When you get that

850
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: first viral anything, it's pretty awesome, it's a it's addicting. Yes,

851
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: then you just chase it, oh yeah, because you're like, wow,

852
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: we just had a video go big, Like why did

853
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: it go big? What can I how can we do

854
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: this again? And if we don't do it again, don't

855
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: mean we suck. I mean it starts to really be

856
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: like something like you're messing with your mind. But when

857
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: you have something that's original, go big, I gotta imagine

858
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: that that is just so much more fulfilling. Oh, yeah,

859
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: oh yeah. That was the first time people were covering

860
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: the song before it was out, and we had never

861
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: had that. We you know, we are fans, have always

862
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: liked our music, but never before was it people who

863
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: had never heard of us. They didn't care if we

864
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: were Tiger Lily or not. They didn't care about us necessarily.

865
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: They just loved the song. They just love the song.

866
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: And I always say, I don't even know if it

867
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: would have mattered who put this song out, but um,

868
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: obviously luckily it was us. But we were just so

869
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: thankful that the song reached so many people, and it

870
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: was this song particularly because it has such a positive,

871
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: impactful message and I think it really coming out of

872
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: the pandemic here especially hit the right time. People are alone,

873
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: they feel isolated. Um, they don't know if they matter enough.

874
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: And we just really wanted to give the old hug,

875
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: which is what we were talking about in the writing

876
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: room that day, because we were looking, I don't think

877
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: the world wants to hear another love. I cannot do

878
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: a love another love and break up some people? You

879
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: care about that? Right now? I'm like, there's so much

880
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: going on, right do they do care about you? But

881
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: that day that's how we felt. So I was looking

882
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: at some of the people that you guys have written

883
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: with Walker obviously, when you're ate with Walker, he was

884
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: an artist that was starting to have some roots as

885
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: an artist, but was known as just a wonderful songwriter,

886
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: great dude, just different thinker as far as Walker, but

887
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: now Shane mcinally Trevor from Old Dominion, Josh Osborne like,

888
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: these are real heavyweights. Yeah, the first couple of times

889
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: you get in these rooms, are you so intimidated that

890
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: you're afraid to speak? Or do you have so much

891
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: confidence you're like, I know what I'm doing. It's a

892
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: it's a middle ground. It's nice to have each other

893
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: each other. Yes, we always have each other because we

894
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: always write together. So that's really nice because being alone

895
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: in that situation would be a little more terrifying to me.

896
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: And our first write with uh Shane and Josh was

897
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: actually UH over Skype or whatever, so it wasn't as

898
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: intimidating because we weren't actually in the same room. But

899
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: I remember logging onto the zoom call for that though,

900
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: when I was like, I'm just praying I liked the song.

901
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't doubting that we would come up with something.

902
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't doubting their abilities or our abilities. I just

903
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: wanted to like the song that I wrote with Shane

904
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: mcinally and Josh Osborne because that's a big deal. And

905
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: we waited for that right for how much longer years

906
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: ever since moved to Nashvillette. So we wanted to write

907
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: with uh and we did. We ended up cutting the song.

908
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: We liked the song. So hell are you? But who

909
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: is the coolest or a say, most famous person to comment?

910
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: I wanted your TikTok's where you go? Oh that's pretty cool.

911
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: They just comment this blue checkmark by their name and

912
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: they commented on the TikTok. I don't know, but Lady

913
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: Antebellin followed us the other day, so that was cool. Yeah,

914
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know stuff like that. I mean we

915
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: I commented, well, we were part of this six five

916
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: house early on and all the celebrities like Keith Urban,

917
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: so our stuff a little big town share of the stuff. Um.

918
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: So we got a lot of tension from that. Is

919
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: there in that? And I've gotten to know not closely,

920
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: but through some things like this Ashley Cook that's her name, right,

921
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: Actually make sure I'm getting names right, Um, Priscilla blocked

922
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: for maybe a little bit. What is that like with

923
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: all of you there at the same time? All right again?

924
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: Are you all fighting for air on that account? So

925
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: none of us really knew what we were doing when

926
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: we started it, Ashley and Chris who was the other

927
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: guy who kind of started it, Chris Rudigger. He's just

928
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: kind of a new artist doing that thing. No, no one,

929
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: it's not dissolved. The main group that did it, we

930
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: never really get together. It's kind of like we were

931
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: all had so much time in pandemic. We all would

932
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: meet and just make cool cover videos together and then

933
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: everyone got really busy basically, which was great. You know,

934
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: everyone's doing their own thing, their own soul. It's really

935
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: fun for while it lasted. But we don't know, we

936
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: haven't done it so long. I think it's um, you

937
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: get in, you learn, you go, okay, this was cool,

938
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: Now let me go do a thing. And we met

939
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: really great people through it. I mean honestly, we talk

940
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: to each other all the time, the people in the

941
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: group and the artists, and we keep up and encourage everyone,

942
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, on whatever whatever everyone's doing and things like that.

943
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: So that's fun. It wasn't. I really didn't feel like

944
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: it was everyone fighting for the camera. It was everyone

945
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: just kind of chilling, having a good time, getting to

946
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: know each other sort of thing. Uh, was based off

947
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: the l A thing, right, wasn't like so TikTok And

948
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: I still I am kind of figuring this out even

949
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: though we were in it. On TikTok, there's houses, So

950
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: there's in l A. They have certain houses that really

951
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: famous TikTok ers go to and create content, or like

952
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: the Hype House or something. Yeah. Yeah, And so Ashley

953
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: and Chris had this idea for the six one five house,

954
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: which would be like nash the Nashville House. We're up

955
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: and coming people who were bigger on TikTok could come

956
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: together and collaborate based I don't know if it matters.

957
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't really consider you guys. I knew that you

958
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: got when I was like looking over some notes, I

959
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, I guess they did have a

960
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: part of that, But I don't really consider you guys

961
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: part of that foundation good or bad. No, No, it

962
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: was just kind of it was super fun for while

963
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: we did it, and uh, you know, we'll always kind

964
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: of be a part of it, I guess, but we

965
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: haven't been able to do it for a while. So

966
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: you guys are both in your twenties. When I say,

967
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: Travis Barker, Okay, what do you think of, well, now,

968
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: Courtney Kardashian. But I know that's the relie, but yeah,

969
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: this is the this is the thing that I have

970
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: with you with my wife, and she's twenty nine and

971
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: she doesn't know Travis Barker from Blank two. It's just

972
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: a generation thing. She's like, I know Travis Barker from

973
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: Courtney Garder. Actually I know. I was like, I shouldn't

974
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: say that, but do you How do you know Travis Parker?

975
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: Is that Corney Kardashia? Well, I mean I knew his name,

976
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: but now I've just seen him in the news so

977
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: much lately because of that, so that's the most recent

978
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: memory of him. People compare you mostly to whom the

979
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 1: Dixie Chicks, probably because everybody gets compared with everybody knew

980
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: gets compared to somebody older. I mean, we don't really

981
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: sound like the Dixie Chicks, but definitely like the vibe

982
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: when we play um and just like that energy is

983
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: something we definitely want to have in our career, and

984
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: I think that's a great, great compliment. Um. And then

985
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: and sometimes Sugarland just because I have more of an

986
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: alto voice and I listened to Jennifer Nettles growing up

987
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: so much, so sugar Land a little bit. Jennifer Nettles,

988
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: you don't sound like Christian Bush fun that way. Um,

989
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 1: But Sugarland Dixie Chicks are what surprising is we actually

990
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: don't get compared to Maddie and Tait. Obviously they've been

991
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: crushing it for plast six or seven years, and uh,

992
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: I've actually never met them. They seem like IMPI they

993
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: don't like you guys, but they are. But I was like,

994
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: because obviously it's what you, you know, worry a little about,

995
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: is you know, both girl duos and there people get

996
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: to comparis against each other. And it's been actually really

997
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: nice because I think we have such different sounds, um,

998
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: just sonically. And but yeah, I think it's like there's

999
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: to me, there's so much more room. I always say

1000
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: this too, It's like why does there have to be

1001
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: one girl? Do there's so much more room for all

1002
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: the girl duos or whatever. So but yeah, mostly Dixie

1003
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: Chicks And then uh, I don't know if people the

1004
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: Maddie and Take comparison, I haven't heard it. I understand

1005
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: get it when you say that. If people starting comparing

1006
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: you to Maddie and Take, that's awesome because that means

1007
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: are comparing you to people that have made it exactly.

1008
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 1: I mean we've gotten that. Like a couple of times.

1009
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: I just say thank you. I mean, what else am

1010
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: I supposed to say? And then then you grow your

1011
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: direction like it's awesome to be compared to somebody who

1012
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: is known enough to be compared to. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

1013
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: you guys did The Young and the Restless as you

1014
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: as your first major TV Yes, yeah, our first time

1015
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: in l A was doing that. What do you do? So?

1016
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: So we played r EP songs for the Sony Sync

1017
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: department out of l A. So this is for people listening.

1018
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: It's like for TV movies to play songs and shows, yes, commercially.

1019
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: So we were like expecting maybe one of our songs

1020
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: to be placed somewhere, but instead, after that meeting, um,

1021
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: one of the ladies, Abbey said she there's this thing

1022
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: I could cast you guys in for The Young and

1023
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: the Restless, the soap opera would would that be something

1024
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: y'all would like. And we've never really acted. I mean

1025
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: we've done stuff in school plays in high school. Did

1026
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: in the show too. Oh yeah, we had lines and everything.

1027
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was a whole scene. So so we

1028
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: actually got the part, which was something I thought we

1029
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: were going to be casted for and not actually get it.

1030
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: You know how this industry is like, Okay, maybe that'll happen,

1031
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: maybe not on the soap oper Sure it's not gonna happen.

1032
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: So we we did get the parts and we flew

1033
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: to l A and we had just one little sing.

1034
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't like this whole episode, but we

1035
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: had lines that we had to memorize. Do you remember

1036
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: your line? We love hearing that our songs means so

1037
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: much to our fans, or something like that. But they

1038
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: asked us as Tiger Lily in The Young and the Restless,

1039
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: so they wrote in their characters as a girl from

1040
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: the show was a huge Tiger Lily fan, so we

1041
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: surprised her in a coffee shop and then talk to

1042
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: her and sang it also makes people think that you're

1043
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: a bigger it's a bigger deal than you. She's a

1044
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: huge fan of Tiger why why aren't I you know?

1045
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: And then they said they've had Jewel and Katy Perry

1046
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: and Lionel Richie and all these really famous people in

1047
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: the show. And I'm like, how did we get this?

1048
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 1: And you sang a cafella on the show. We sang

1049
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: dig Yourself, the song we wrote with Shane and Josh

1050
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: and Trevor Um and we just, you know, because you

1051
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: always do that when you're in a coffee shop with someone,

1052
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: you just burst. The line was, would you like to

1053
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: hear one of our sneak preview of one of our

1054
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: new songs? I know you really did yourself? And I

1055
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 1: don't even have my guitar. It was full on like snaps, Yeah,

1056
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: here is some of dig Yourself. This is actually from

1057
00:51:51,160 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: the young and they just not everything's always about Joe

1058
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: because you've got against you show un will you really

1059
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: did yourself? Why don't you did yourself? A home making

1060
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: all the way to shut up? But I don't know,

1061
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: Fun says, So what's the next Obviously we'll get into

1062
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: the holidays so that it's kind of a checkout time

1063
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: in this town, but like, what's the plan for next year?

1064
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: Do you guys have I mean we've been writing a

1065
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: lot lately. I feel like we definitely go in seasons

1066
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: of full on promo, new music releasing, and now, um,

1067
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: we still have some fun stuff coming for the holidays actually,

1068
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: which is exciting because we never fully stop. Um, but

1069
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: we are just writing a lot and hopefully into the

1070
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: studio again with project number two next year. I mean,

1071
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: we don't have a date set or anything, and um,

1072
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: thankfully I think hopefully Shane will produce again. We we

1073
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 1: love that guy and it's been so fun working with him.

1074
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: And UM, I listened to actually the podcast that you

1075
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: did with Shane four years ago. Yeah, I listened to

1076
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: that this morning and I was like, I just feel

1077
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: like this is what I should listen to, and it

1078
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: was just fun hearing he only had Caitlin and Walker

1079
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: at that time, and uh, we're now with him and

1080
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: this label and it's just it's really fun. So I

1081
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: did reminisce on that this morning. Well, Caitlin and Walker

1082
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: are my favorites, but very incredible and have made such

1083
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: a point too, because I feel like they both were

1084
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: super talented, very undervalued, where I am not talented and

1085
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: very overvalued. So I took them both out with me

1086
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: just to make my shows better so that hey, I

1087
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: took them both on the road and they would just

1088
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: blow my audiences away and I would be like that,

1089
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about my favorite artist if you just give

1090
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: him a shot. Yeah, And so it's been so cool

1091
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: to see both of them explode, even Caitlin with Dominion. Now,

1092
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: oh yeah, they're incredible. Um, you got you're in at

1093
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: the right time with this group, and now we're very,

1094
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: very very lucky we were in good hands Monuments. It's

1095
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: such it was such an out of the box venture

1096
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: at first, but it wasn't so much out of the box.

1097
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: It was just a little ahead of its time. But

1098
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: now the time is catching up with it and they're

1099
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: sitting there waiting at the right time, taking the right decision.

1100
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: Had this huge, massive hit this year, and I'm just

1101
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: so happy for him and and all the success that

1102
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: he's had, and um and and all the Monument team,

1103
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: and it's just been fun seeing everyone really succeed this year,

1104
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 1: and you know, us getting to see the small parts

1105
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: of it all and uh, now being a part of

1106
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: this whole team. But yeah, we gotta sometimes to take

1107
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: a step back and look at ourselves. A year ago

1108
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: and say how. I mean, we're very We've worked really

1109
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: hard for it, so I'm not going to undermine us

1110
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: at all. But how did we get here? I mean,

1111
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: we're very, very fortunate, because I've always said it, Yeah,

1112
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: it takes hard work, talent, but it's also luck too.

1113
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: The right person just has to hear you got to

1114
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 1: work hard to get into look. Yes, work really hard

1115
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: to get to the look. I mean the goal is

1116
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: to work so hard that people are confused. How you

1117
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: became an overnight sensation? Yeah exactly, I mean, and it's

1118
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: to grind it out for ten fifteen years. All of

1119
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: a sudden something hits and they're like, wow, wow, loo,

1120
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: could you did it overnight? And you're like, okay, whatever

1121
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 1: you think, I'll take it. But you know, and it's

1122
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: such a luxury. And I'll say this to you now,

1123
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: before you get so tired. I was talking about Walker,

1124
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: and there are seasons of my years where I live

1125
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: so exhausted because it took me so long to hit

1126
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: in any way that it's you'll start to get irritable

1127
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: and tired and and a bit resentful. But that's what

1128
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: you worked for to be able to be tired and

1129
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: exhausted doing what you love to do, what you moved

1130
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 1: across the country to do. So this is gonna blow

1131
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: up for you, guys. I can I can see it.

1132
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't say that too many people. This is this

1133
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be a really big deal for you guys.

1134
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: You two is gonna be great, is gonna be fantastic.

1135
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna snowball for you guys. But it's also gonna

1136
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: get so tiring. You're gonna be I mean, relationships are

1137
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: gonna be strained. You're gonna have to but it's awesome.

1138
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: And when that happens to you, you just remember, we're

1139
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: so lucky to be this tired. Yeah, I love that

1140
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: so much. And then you eventually get out of it

1141
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: and you'll you'll be like me and you have a

1142
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: shoe close like a hundred pair of shoes and get

1143
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: and it gets great again. But just the one nugget

1144
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: to take from me here who has been in a

1145
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: struggle situation for a long time, is that it gets

1146
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: really it's so much harder than it does right now.

1147
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: And I know you guys feel like you've worked so

1148
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: hard to get here. It gets so much harder. But

1149
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: as you're dying. Just remember you're so lucky to be

1150
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: dying because I get to see big things for you guys.

1151
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: Thank you so much much, thank you for that. I

1152
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: don't even say that to me. I didn't tell Shane that.

1153
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: I thought. I was like, Shane, you know we done

1154
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: a couple of years. I was like, show, we think

1155
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: about that so much. As we worked eight years to

1156
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: get to this point. We're just starting so much. We

1157
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: just signed our record deal and that's when you know,

1158
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: finally National starts paying attention and you start getting all

1159
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: these big things. But we're just starting. You have been

1160
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: a pleasure to talk to you. I did not expect

1161
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: to do an hour with you guys. Oh well, mostly

1162
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: I'm just like, hey, let's talk about some stuff. We'll

1163
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: see where it goes. But you guys have it. I

1164
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: don't exactly know what it is. But that's the best

1165
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: thing about it. I haven't heard saying in person. I've

1166
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: just heard your music on you know, you playing it

1167
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 1: on Spotify or watching you guys on Instagram um or TikTok.

1168
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: But you just have it. So and your sister, so

1169
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: I believe you will stay together. Yes, we will have

1170
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: to do you have to so let me say this,

1171
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: by the way, I'll play one more. Let's play Everybody's

1172
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: on Something. Here's the track four. Everybody's on s Everybody's

1173
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: on him model, but still everybody anything, Everybody's on song.

1174
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: I mean that might be a favorite one on the record. Honestly,

1175
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, I played it last, and I hate to

1176
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: always say that's my favorite because but I think of

1177
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: the songs, I think that that one of that group

1178
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: of five songs is my favorite one, just because we'll

1179
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: get them all in. Mike here has known you forever. Time.

1180
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: It takes one to know one together. Some time it's

1181
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: not you know, but they know your someone whoever you

1182
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: can follow Tiger Lily and let me say it's spelled differently,

1183
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, it's tie girl, yes, Billy, tie girl Lily. Yes,

1184
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: it's still said tiger Lily. Yes, but you could probably

1185
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: be confused easily tie t I girl Billy. That's even

1186
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: weird to say like that. That's perfect though, it's it's

1187
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: exactly how you just said Tiger Lily on TikTok. They're

1188
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: just over, you know, killing it everywhere. Let me go

1189
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: over to the room. Usually go to the guys. Mike

1190
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: is there anything you'd like to say before we wrap

1191
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: this up. I would say my one North Dakota story

1192
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 1: is when I was with you selling merch, I took

1193
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: a picture with somebody and I thought it was somebody

1194
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 1: who would recognize me from the show. And the reason

1195
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: they take a picture with me because they had never

1196
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: seen a Mexican. Sadly will say, there's not a lot

1197
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: of diversity North Kota. But I'm so sorry, but it

1198
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: was the nicest form of racism. I forgot about that. Yeah,

1199
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: I read anything you'd like to say to Tiger Lily.

1200
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't have any racism story. That's great, but I

1201
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: think you all are great and I enjoyed it. Thank

1202
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: you so much. Thank you. Well. With that, we will

1203
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: will say goodbye, and I just don't don't expect this

1204
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: to be the last time that I see you guys.

1205
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: And most people, I would say, one out of five

1206
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: people after they leave this room at the radio show,

1207
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: they die or retire. So I feel good about you guys.

1208
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: I love that. I though they are you guys. Go

1209
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: check out Tiger Lily. Uh they're doing three more Dirk

1210
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: shows and that's never gonna happen again. I'm gonna tell

1211
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: you because they're they're blowing up all right. Good to

1212
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: talk to you guys, Thanks for having us M