1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time, time, luck and load. 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: So Michael Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: Well, it's a story we thought we wouldn't have to 4 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: tell again. We were happy to leave this story behind. Unfortunately, 5 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: leaving behind is not What's City of Houston rump Ranger 6 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: Joey Ellis was known for. This story has reared its 7 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: ugly head from the bowels of badness. The City of Houston, 8 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: under Sylvester Turner, perhaps because of his leadership, had a 9 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: rump ranger who apparently wearing a badge, was showing up 10 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: in the parks and telling the men who were there 11 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: that they could either let him booty bangam or he'd 12 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: take them to jail. It was a terrible, terrible thing, 13 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: but it was the Sylvester Turner administration. What can you do? Well, 14 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: the Feds are now, according to the FBI, they're going 15 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: to be charging him with twenty federal charges. I've spoken 16 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: to some of the Feds involved in this thing, the 17 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 3: US Attorney's offices on this. He would take their driver's 18 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: licenses and their cell phones. He would pull in behind 19 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: their vehicle to block them. And they don't know, well, 20 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: rump ranger, do I just pooped over, I didn't wipe. 21 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: Do I have to let you get off on me? 22 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: They don't know, because they're not really sure. An old 23 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: rump ranger not only would he engage in banality and 24 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: buggery on innocent men walking through the parks of the 25 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 3: city of Houston, he would also steal their phones and 26 00:02:53,200 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: take their money. My goodness. In one case, they said 27 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: one victim, he made the guy strip naked and sexually 28 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: assault another man in front of him for his pleasure. 29 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: And he used a firearm and a badge to threaten 30 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: innocent city of Houston. And the problem is, law enforcement 31 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: tells me twenty charges means twenty people. They think there 32 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 3: are multiples of this, but nobody wants to come forward 33 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: and go, yeah, oh, rump ranger Ellis, he boody banged 34 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: me too. Nobody wants to admit to that, and understandably so, 35 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: so the Feds are bringing twenty charges against him. Khow 36 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: you with the story? 37 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: Federal Price theircutors and died at Ellis this morning on 38 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: twenty counts, all tied to the alleged actions they say 39 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: happened in the parks he once patrolled. Now, Ellis was 40 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: initially only facing three charges here in Harris County, including 41 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: two counts of a fife oppression and one count of 42 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: sexual assault. But since his last court appearance, investigators say 43 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: several victims have come forward with new allegations, resulting in 44 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: twenty new charges, some of which can only be prosecuted 45 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: at the federal level. One of those charges falling under 46 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: what is called the color of law, where he allegedly 47 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: committed a violation against someone based on their race and sexuality. 48 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: That's according to prosecutors, Ellis is accused of violating his victims' 49 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: rights after investigators say he would force men to strip 50 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: in the parks he was patrolling, and in some cases 51 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: would have them perform sex acts on him after threatening 52 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: to have them arrested if they didn't comply or pay 53 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: him money. Prosecutors say these alleged incidents happened in city 54 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: parks where usually gay men are known to meet. Today's 55 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: arrest by federal agents came as a surprise, not just 56 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: to Ellis but to his attorney as well. 57 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: We were not aware. Had we been aware, we still 58 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: would have come. It is still our intention to fight 59 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: this case with every fiber of our being. Everyone is 60 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: innocent unles, they are proven guilty, and mister Ellis still 61 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: stands by his innocence. In this case, it's more of 62 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: a relief. 63 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: It's a relief that these people are seeing this on 64 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: the news. They're seeing other victims coming forward, which then 65 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: gives them the. 66 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 4: Courage to come forward. 67 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: Now, Ellis is expected to appear in federal court later 68 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: this afternoon, where a judge will set his trial date. 69 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 2: His defense attorney tells us he's expected to be held 70 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: without bond. Meanwhile, investigators are asking any more victims out 71 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: there who may recognize Ellis and may have had an 72 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: encounter with him, to come forward. 73 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: So did you catch what's going on there? This is 74 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: where these stupid laws, this desperate attempt to pander to people. 75 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark, a white woman, is now responsible, they say, 76 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: for sixty percent of the revenues of the WNBA. She's 77 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: made the w NBA relevant at least. Young Girls Time 78 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: names her Person of the Year. She spends the entire 79 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: interview saying, I just have white privilege. We really need 80 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: to focus on the black girls. But you're the one 81 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: that everybody wants to No, no black girls. I'm white. 82 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 3: I shouldn't it's pitiful flagellating herself. You shouldn't need to 83 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: do that, but she does. So what they've done here 84 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: now is they're bringing federal charges. They're upgrading the charges 85 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: because they say the rump ranger is picking on people 86 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: based on their race, no, their sexuality. So let's be clear. 87 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: When rump Ranger rapes the men in the park, they're 88 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: saying he targeted them because they're gay, So is he 89 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: Well what if he raped straight men? No, no extra 90 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: charge for that. It's the fact that they're gay that 91 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: makes this worse. Well, he's gay. Wait what we have 92 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: some body cam footage. We don't know whether or not 93 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: this will be used at his trial or not. 94 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: Wow, hey, wait your turn, whoa, this is all right, 95 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: That's what That's what I was doing. I was just think, 96 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: let's go, let's move it up. 97 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: We don't technically know that he's gay. We we can't 98 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: be sure, but there are some ways for us to say. 99 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 3: You know what, I know how you're gay? 100 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: Gay? 101 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 5: Now, No, I'm not gay, I'm just celibate. I think, 102 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: I mean that sounds good. I just want you to 103 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 5: know that this is like the first conversation of like 104 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 5: three conversations that leads to you being gay, Like there's this, 105 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 5: and then in a year it's like, oh, you know, 106 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 5: I'm kind of gonna want to get back out there, 107 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 5: but I think I like guys. And then there's the 108 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: big Oh, I'm. 109 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: A gay guy. Now you're gay for saying that I'm gay. 110 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: For saying that. 111 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 6: You know how I know you're gay? 112 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 5: How do you know I'm gay? 113 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: Because you macro made yourself a pair of jean shorts. 114 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 4: No, I know you're gay. 115 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 5: You just told me you're not sleeping with women anymore. 116 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 5: You know how I know that you're gay? 117 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: How? 118 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 5: Because you're gay and you can tell who other gay 119 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: people are. 120 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: You know I know you're gay. 121 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 5: You like cold Play? 122 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: You know how I know that you're gay. 123 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 5: You like the movie Made in Manhattan. You know I 124 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 5: know your gay? 125 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: How? 126 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 5: I saw you make a spinach dip in a loaf 127 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 5: of sour dough bread once. 128 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if we should be sad or proud, 129 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: but apparently there is Hollywood is in town, sniffing around 130 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: for to make a new TV show on this. 131 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 7: Rum. 132 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 6: Well, this is looking got you. 133 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 4: The girls all get pretty closing time when you're listening 134 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: to the Michael Berry. 135 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 5: Show on. 136 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 6: Well, I was throwing my job working in the park, 137 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 6: doing my job of looking for once you see the 138 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 6: park on Patrol's reputation for man on man fiction causing perforation. Well, 139 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 6: lower me all this that I see. It's a pair 140 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 6: of round fellows, one on their knees and once more 141 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 6: up and then a muster on the scene. Put your 142 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 6: hands in the air, under standing up. Please help you 143 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 6: take off your clothes down to the bus. I need 144 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 6: a toast of naked man. I need to see me 145 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 6: a naked man. Wow, you're for this undressing. Give me 146 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 6: two hundred bucks. Oh you god, it's a twenty. Well 147 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 6: that's your sup for you because I need my cash. 148 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 6: Open your phone and open your app. Open the cast 149 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 6: out baby. Pay the pop Rock Ranger. Your life's in 150 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 6: danger if you don't pay me. Pay the park Rock Ranger, 151 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 6: Buck Ruck Ranger, pop. 152 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: Up Brainer. 153 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 8: Ron Ranger, p. 154 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 5: Ranger shading me. 155 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: Pay the park rock Ranger. 156 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 8: Your life's in danger if you don't pay me. 157 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 6: Pay the park rob Ranger, bark Rock Ranger, Park Rock Ranger, 158 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 6: pok Rock Ranger. 159 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 8: Ranger, pay me, pay the talk rock Ranger. Your life's 160 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 8: in danger. 161 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 6: If you don't pay me, pay the park rock Ranger, 162 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 6: park Rock Ray, jump. 163 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 7: Up, raineruser, they ain't the buck Raja like many days. 164 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 6: I mean, you don't pay me. 165 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 8: Ras Rainer frock Raiser. 166 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: Sometimes when I'm out, people that I don't know know 167 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: who I am, I do know who I am and 168 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: don't like me, and they'll make snide remarks under their breath. 169 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 3: Sometimes I hear it, and I just choose not to engage, 170 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: because what's the good to come of that? If I'm 171 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: arrested tomorrow for beating somebody's ass, are more likely getting 172 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: my ass beat. You're gonna go, what did you do, 173 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 3: you dumbass? And then I'm gonna go, well, he insulted me, 174 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: and you're gonna go. Couldn't you have walked away? That's 175 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 3: not really what you ought to do. But I actually 176 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 3: had an encounter with this guy. I thought he just 177 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: didn't like me because of the show. I don't know 178 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 3: if he knew who I was. I was jogging Memorial Park. 179 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 3: That dude, Joey Ellis was standing there and I go 180 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: past and he mutters under his breath, what an ass? 181 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: Little did I know? 182 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 4: Ramon? 183 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: Little did I know? Sean Miles, writes, Zara fun fact 184 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: about ll Bean. When we visit the original store in Freeport, Maine, 185 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: we learned that they are open twenty four hours a day, 186 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty five days a year. Correct. First 187 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: time they ever closed was during COVID. They had to 188 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: have locks installed on their doors because they didn't have 189 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 3: locks prior to COVID, because they never closed. You know, 190 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: let me give you a little advice for your small business, 191 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: and honestly, this is advice for everybody, no matter what 192 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: you are, small business owner, employee, mom, teacher, cop I 193 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 3: think a lot about branding. Everybody, whether you realize it 194 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: or not, has a brand in the same way that 195 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: the product does. If I say to you, doctor Pepper, 196 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: what does that brand mean to you? Rc? Cola, Toyota, 197 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 3: pougeot sob Levi's. Now, that brand might mean different things 198 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: to different people, but there is no doubt that that 199 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: brand represents something. If you walk into a store and 200 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: there's a Cardier watch at the front, and there's the 201 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: certificate that says it's a legit watch, it is Cardier, 202 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: and it's twenty two dollars, you may say, well, heck, 203 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: I'll pick that if that really is it? Because I 204 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: don't even know much about Cardier, but I know the 205 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: brand has a value higher than that. Cardier is a 206 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: cautionary tale when folks who bought into Cardier started wanting 207 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: to maximize revenues and they started splashing Cardier on everything, 208 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: and it ended up that Cardier ended up I think 209 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: next to Martha Stewart at kmart, and they devalued the 210 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: brand so badly, so they brought in a turnaround Agent's 211 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: legendary story. They brought in turnaround agent, and what they 212 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: started doing was pulling the product off the shelf everywhere 213 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: they could. They had to starve the market of Cardier 214 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: to rebuild the market. That brand was so important. I 215 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: think probably the best example I can give of the 216 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: value of a brand is Domino's Pizza. I think it 217 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: was two thousand and nine, but I'm often wrong on details, 218 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: but I don't stop. I just keep going. You say 219 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: it with confidence, but let's say it's around two thousand 220 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: and nine twenty ten. Domino's Pizza had a problem on 221 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: their hands. Taste tests showed that Domino's pizza tasted like cardboard, 222 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: and that the market understood that people had a definite 223 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: opinion of Domino's, and it was not good. The pizza 224 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: did not taste good. So they did something that was 225 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: kind of one of those Hail Mary's. They created a 226 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: marketing campaign and in that marketing campaign they did kind 227 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: of a secret shopper tape deal. They asked people to 228 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: tell them about their pizza. In the marketing campaign, was 229 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: it tastes like cardboard, It's terrible, It's the worst I've 230 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: ever eaten. They paid a lot of money to tell 231 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: people that. But as part of that campaign they embraced 232 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: we're going to be better, and they spent a lot 233 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: of time testing which milk to use to create the 234 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: right cheese at the right temperature, which you know, Papa 235 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: John's had come on and was winning all the taste tests. Well, 236 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: domino slowly but surely by embracing that. In fact, it's 237 00:16:52,400 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: become at Swarthmore they study it in NBA glasses of 238 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: how to take what's bad about you and embrace it, 239 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 3: and Dominoes turned it around. And what they did in 240 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: the process, it's a dangerous, dangerous thing to do this. 241 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 3: They embraced the fact that we weren't good and we 242 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: got better, and the audiences bought it. And I tell 243 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: you that because the Dominoes brand. In fact, that there's 244 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 3: a report that goes around I follow all these financial 245 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: sites that if you bought Dominoes at a certain point 246 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 3: around twenty ten and you bought Apple, stop you think 247 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: of everything Apple is done to dominate, your Dominoes would 248 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: be worth more than your Apple. Do you believe that 249 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: if you bought the same amount of money, you know, 250 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: if you just bought one hundred thousand dollars worth whatever 251 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: it was? So that ll bean branding llll Bean is 252 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: not known for the latest and greatest product. Neither is 253 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: lands in they're known as we'll be here tomorrow. When 254 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: I begin a relationship with a new show sponsor, I 255 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 3: spend a lot of time setting expectations and I say, 256 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: for this to work, you want to go by Google 257 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: ad words, go ahead. You want to do you know, 258 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: geo fencing, go ahead, you want to do all the 259 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: digital go ahead, Facebook, go ahead. When you partner with us, 260 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: it's not advertising anymore. You're sponsoring our show. You are 261 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 3: making it so that I can tell my story every 262 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: day about whatever, and I'm telling people what you do. 263 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: So we're not going to promote discounts or sales, or 264 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: don't worry about today or tomorrow. Be good at what 265 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: you do, like lands in and tomorrow when people need you, 266 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: they'll come to you and you'll be able to sustain 267 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 3: that for decades. 268 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 7: To settle. 269 00:18:51,880 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 4: So I'm not e walk the I'm a new note 270 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: find Let my names ever remind. 271 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: Of a blues man. 272 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 3: That's all one of my great frustrations, whether it's a 273 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: show sponsor or place I go to. I don't think 274 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 3: people really understand that everybody and everything has a brand, 275 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: and what ends up happening is they start wanting to 276 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: make some money real fast. I'll give you a great example. 277 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: Do you remember the groupon phenomena? So groupon came out 278 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: and I know you know, But for those who don't know, 279 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 3: what GROUPON was gonna do is go to the Let's say, 280 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 3: go to a restaurant and say, hey, look, I can 281 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: bring in a bunch of money and a bunch of 282 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: people to your place. Here's what you do. You give 283 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: me a coupon or let me print a coupon that 284 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: half off you know, your meal, and I'll send all 285 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 3: these people in And so the restaurant's like man, I could. 286 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 4: Use the business. 287 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the people are like, I'd like to have 288 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: a discount. Yeah, And it's a marriage maide in hell. 289 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: Because it turned out that the people who were on 290 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: groupon were people you didn't want in your restaurant. So 291 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: you'd have a nice restaurant, let's say, your gringoes, your 292 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: family oriented. You know, this is a place that's stable 293 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 3: and secure. And now all of a sudden, I don't 294 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 3: know if they ever did groupon. They probably didn't too 295 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: smart for that. Now you had a bunch of people 296 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: coming in there that don't pay their bill, that send 297 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: their food back. You're getting all the wrong work, you're 298 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 3: getting all the wrong demographics. And so it didn't take 299 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 3: long til people said, uh, no more groupon And then 300 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: there was a group on knockoff and they were going 301 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: to be better. You're not going to be better because 302 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: here is what people really struggle to understand, and I'm 303 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: going to say it because nobody else will. Every potential 304 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 3: customer is not the same. There are people who will 305 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 3: walk through the door of your restaurant who will hire 306 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: you to install a roof, who will hire you to 307 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 3: replace the tires on their car that you do not 308 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: want as customers. Not only will you not make money 309 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: off of them. They will make you want to get 310 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: out of the business you're in. They will make you 311 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: literally want to smash your head against a wall. And 312 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 3: then when they're done, when they're done running you through 313 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 3: the ringer and getting as much free stuff as they 314 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 3: can out of you, as threatening you and maybe dragging 315 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 3: lawyers into it and all that, when they've done with 316 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: all that, then they will go on every review site 317 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 3: and they will trash you, and you will, at the 318 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: end of the day realize that you brought yourself one 319 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: thousand dollars worth of problems to try to make ten dollars. 320 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: This is why you don't do discounts. This is why 321 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: you don't do a sale. If you look at brands 322 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: that matter, they don't engage in the desperate attempt to 323 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 3: make a dollar because by and large, the people who 324 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: are driven by that are people you do not want 325 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 3: as customers. What makes our show, and we're a little 326 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 3: old fashioned, what makes our show matter is I don't 327 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 3: care who it is. If it's Gringos, if it's Skeeter Brown, 328 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: if it's Connie Stagner. Our show sponsors say, I know 329 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 3: your listener when they walk in the door. They're different. 330 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 3: They don't come in with their chest bowed out ready 331 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 3: to run my business down. That's always one that gets me. 332 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 3: The guy that walks into the shop that product ain't 333 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: even any good. Well it's our best product, yes, last 334 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 3: year's product. Not even any good, not terrible? Okay, how 335 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: much you want for it? 336 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 4: Wait? 337 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: I thought it was terrible. That's how these people are. 338 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: You don't want that person. You don't want the people 339 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 3: who eat half the meal and send it back. Everybody 340 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: has a brand, and you got to decide what yours is. 341 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: And sometimes that brand means you don't sell the product 342 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 3: to the person who wants the product. You don't sell 343 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 3: the product at a discount. You don't get desperate and 344 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: do dumb stuff that kill your brand, because your brand 345 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: is bigger than that. You know how many actors have 346 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: ruined their careers with an image and then they sell 347 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: out and they play a role that absolutely destroys the 348 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: feelings people have. That brand isn't intangible, but it's real. 349 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: You have a brand with your spouse, with your kids, 350 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: with your own parents, with your employees. That's why when 351 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: you nail your secretary, the employees that work there, know 352 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 3: that it changes how they think of you, and God 353 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: forbid you then tell them to stop flirting with the 354 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: girls there. That's why when you cheat live Steel, you're 355 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 3: telling them that's okay in their own and then what 356 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: have you got the business? 357 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 2: You know? 358 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: I think about brands. Johnny Carrabo built up Carabas. Darden 359 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: paid him a fortune for it. He couldn't deal with 360 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 3: them because they bring him into these meetings and they're like, Okay, 361 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: do you realize that you put three leaves too many 362 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 3: on this and two kutons too many? And he's like, well, 363 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: I don't know how many we put. We put a 364 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 3: lot And they said, do you realize that in one 365 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: year by cutting that back we could save two point 366 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: eight million dollars? And he said that's it. He's sitting 367 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: with the CEO when they did that, buy me out. 368 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 3: I'm done. So you go to any Carabas other than 369 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: the one on Kirby and Voss and you go, Nope, 370 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 3: this ain't it. It's not the same. You go to 371 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: those two. You go into Kirby, there's Johnny behind the counter, who, 372 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: by the way, no homo, but he has gotten so fit. 373 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 3: He's got great skin, tone. He's got those mattress Mac 374 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 3: really white teeth. That's a good looking dude for being 375 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 3: eighty three years old. I mean, I ain't saying he's 376 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: dam Passerini Michael Berry Show. Lots of folks have recorded 377 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 3: the song Here We Go Again, written by Don Lanier 378 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: and more importantly written by Red Stiegel. Some people say Stagall, 379 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 3: some people say Stegall. I've never met the man, so 380 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: I don't know exactly s T. E. 381 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: A G. 382 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: A L L. 383 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: But he is known as the cowboy poet. He's kind 384 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: of a real life Louis Lamore character who is a 385 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: great combination of cowboy and artists, who tries to preserve 386 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 3: the great old Texas legacies of honor and decency in 387 00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: the cowboy way of life. And when you talk about brand, 388 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: and I tell you everybody has a brand. That's true 389 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: whether you're working out on the old Patch, or you're 390 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 3: a mechanic at a shop, or you're a mom of kids. 391 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: And when we're mindful of what that brand is and 392 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 3: how we protect that brand, it will affect what we do, 393 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 3: whether we go to the hospital to see our friend 394 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: or not, whether we pick up the trash out front, 395 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 3: when nobody's looking. It affects, it drives you. Once you 396 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: define what you want that brand to be, then you 397 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: make that brand happen. You're not required to be stuck 398 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: in the brand you always were, and anyone who won't 399 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: let you out of that brand because well you who 400 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 3: are you? You didn't go to college. Met with a 401 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: woman yesterday who's a title agent at a title company, 402 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 3: very successful at what she does, and it's real estate closing, 403 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: and I said, how much you make per year? And 404 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 3: she's an old friend. She and her husband have done 405 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: very well. People just answer my questions because if you 406 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: as direct as I am, they figure they're kind of 407 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 3: supposed to. She said two fifty. I said, do you 408 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 3: realize how much money that is to do what you do? 409 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: And she said, not bad for a girl didn't go 410 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 3: to college. And I said, I'm not sure going to 411 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 3: college would have changed what you do. You manage my 412 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: real estate clothing. I gave you the property address, I 413 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: sent you the contract. You came to my office and 414 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: I'm signing a document. I didn't have to do a 415 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: single thing in between. You literally made everything happened. What 416 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: do you think that's worked to me? You think I'm 417 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: not going to send you every deal I have going forward. 418 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: It's my first time to try her out on a deal. 419 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: And she said, yeah, well, I didn't go to college. 420 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 3: I started working at nineteen years old. I said, yeah, 421 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 3: but you add value in college. Can't teach you how 422 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: to do that. You are what I tell my assistant, 423 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: But I tell Ramon, Chad, Jim and anybody else who 424 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 3: will listen. You are what I and most everybody else 425 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: needs in their lives. You're a problem solver. So many 426 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: people think that you're compensated by how long you've been there, 427 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: what your title is, how hard you work. That's such 428 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: an outdated notion. You solve problems or you don't, period, 429 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: end of story. You solve problems or you don't. And 430 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: if that's your brand, you're going to be valuable to people. 431 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: So I'm going to close the show today with a 432 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: poem that Red Stiegele wrote, and it's about the brand 433 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: of a guy who's working as a ranch hand and 434 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 3: how important it is to him to do right by 435 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: the guy who pays his bills, you know, the sort 436 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: of cowboy way of life, and that has I mean, 437 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: I think Landman does a great job kind of going 438 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 3: through this sense of honor and dignity. And I do 439 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 3: enjoy that because I had a lot of relatives who 440 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 3: spent a good portion of their time both in East 441 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: Texas and an Odessa in the oil patch, which can 442 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: be a tough business. And these are people who you know, 443 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: they may not have had a social media page, but 444 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 3: they understood what they stood for and who they were. 445 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: And I think every person once you understand that for 446 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: your business and all that. I fight with my show 447 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: sponsors all the time. No, I won't say that on 448 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: your behalf because that's not consistent with who I am, 449 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 3: and that's not consistent with who I think you want 450 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: to be. Understand your brand. Every single person should. Anyway, 451 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: here's the poem. I think it's wonderful. 452 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 4: You know, Jake, when we were growing up in the 453 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 4: cow Country, there was a phrase that we were taught 454 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 4: very early on. It's right for the brand, and it 455 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 4: means be loyal to the man who signs your check. 456 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 4: I wrote this point in nineteen eighty seven, and I 457 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 4: wanted to dedicate it to the all the men and 458 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: women who believe that a day's pay is the reward 459 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 4: for a day's work. His skin looked like leather. He 460 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 4: walked with a limp, talked with a slow Texas drawl. 461 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 4: His knuckles were nodded, and his right thumb was gone. 462 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 4: Said a stud bitted off late last fall. But hey, 463 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 4: we knew he was lying. We'd watched him dally it up. 464 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 4: But it ain't healthy to call him a liar. It 465 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 4: was Saturday night before the wagon went out, and he 466 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 4: is setting our new kid on fire. Now we've all 467 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 4: heard his stories about places he's been, and we think 468 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 4: that Jake's kind of strange. He looked over at me 469 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 4: and said, I'm schooling this boy about the unwritten laws 470 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 4: of the range. And the kid was enthralled, kind of 471 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 4: like in a trance. Jake sens that he had a 472 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 4: good grip, so he straightened up, hitched his pan, took 473 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 4: a drink of cold beer, turned around with his hand 474 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 4: on his hips, and he said, son, a man's brand 475 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 4: is his own special mark. It says this is mine. 476 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: Leave it alone. If you hire out to a man, 477 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 4: ride for his brand and protect him like it was 478 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 4: your own. Mister Wagner, come out here in nineteen o three. 479 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 4: This country was sagebrush, mesquite trees and sand, and he 480 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 4: carved him this ranch out of blood, sweat and guts. 481 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 4: Be proud when you ride for his brand. If you 482 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 4: hired out the string barb war build him a fence, 483 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 4: it don't matter if it's four or five strand just 484 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 4: remember it was you who asked for the job. Don't 485 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 4: bitch when you ride for this brand, because mister Wagner 486 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 4: don't hold with complainers. He'll fire one for it and quit. 487 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 4: If you don't like our out, head down the trail. 488 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 4: Find a horse at your saddle, little fit. But if 489 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 4: you get up early and catch you on bronk and 490 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 4: show the boss that you're making a hand, mister Wagner 491 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: will be there to cover your bets long as you 492 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 4: ride for his brand, he said, the winter I'll spend 493 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 4: at the Sixes. We had a man at the old 494 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 4: Taylor place who rode up on some hiders, a skin 495 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 4: and a cow and squared off at them scamps, face 496 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 4: to face. He could have rolled off never looked back, 497 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 4: but he wasn't that kind of man. We found him 498 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 4: in Ash Creek, shot all the hell. No Conna Joe 499 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 4: died for the brand. Well we know the old man 500 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 4: tells a windy or two like the one about losing 501 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 4: his thumb and no ConA was killed in a bar 502 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 4: in Fort Worth with the demons in a bottle of rum. 503 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 4: But I got to thinking about what he had said, 504 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 4: and the more of it I understand, the more I 505 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 4: believe we'd be all better off if more people would 506 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 4: ride for the brand. 507 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 3: That was for you. Ramon, you need to please sure 508 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: you O trewing stuff up. 509 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 4: That's pass The best way to tell you that