1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Rot rot rot rot rotan Has anybody seen this ruling? 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: A Michigan appeals courts determined that a tire rotation does not, 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: in fact include tighten relugnuts. The Car Doctor. Now you 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: gotta understand something, folks. This is what happens when you 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: allow the government to explain something to you about how 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: our procedures should be done. What moron thinks you don't 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: the titan lug nuts and do a tire rotation. Welcome 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor. 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five and now running. Hey, 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: you talk to your kids about cars lately? Due then 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: I had to take care of it. Are they ready 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: to take it away? Are they ready to start driving it? 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: Beyond just getting their driver's license. We're gonna be talking 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: about that this hour here today, right now as we 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: kick off this hour of the Car Doctor. But let's 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: do that, and let's kick the rodger doors wide open 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: and welcome Darryl from mein as we opened up the 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: phones right away. We'll do that have that conversation with 23 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: you as we go through this hour, Darryl, welcome apart, sir, 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: How can I help? What's going on? Well? Are you 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: doing rongnight? Yeah? I got an eighty five brand my key, 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: and I've had it's the one old enough. My father 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: bought it noon every kind of my toy, but the 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: belts have been on here since before I got it 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: from him twelve years ago. I just thought i'd changed him. Sure, 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: why not? There it's a little over thirty years old, right, 31 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: it's got a couple of years are you anyway? I 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: get into that, and I'm trying to find out how 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: to loosen up the belt one for the small pumping compressor, 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: and I can only find in one bolt. You might 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: have a slot that you could move the idle of 36 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out how you're supposed to be 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: able to get onto it because at every wrench and 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: I've had, does does does this have the big aluminum 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: bracket leading up to the A C compressor? Yeah? Okay, yeah, 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: so so you found the bolt on the front side, right, Uh? Well, 41 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: I laid under it and look up. No, no, don't 42 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: don't do that. You'll just get dirty. So you don't 43 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: need to do that. Just has the one the A C. 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: The water hose, the the heater host comes down around 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: and sort of wiggle waggles around the A C compressor 46 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: and comes up the back of the bracket and it's 47 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: it's it's secured out of the way so it doesn't 48 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: rub against the belt. Right, this is the one that 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: has that fixture, because the heater hose runs so close 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: to the A C compressor in that sense on the 51 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: one side, and it comes up the back of the bracket. 52 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, right, it's just that bracket is that's 53 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: completely solid that pressing, that's nothing slides there that I 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: can see. Right. Well, that tension or bracket has has 55 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: two bolts, one facing the front of the car and 56 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: one facing the back of the car. Right, okay, so 57 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: you probably which one did you find? Did you find 58 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: the one facing the front of the car, Well, the 59 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: one right under the pulley on the compressors one day, right, 60 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: that I figured as a pivot point, and the one 61 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: on the back is right behind the idler. The only 62 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: way I could even get to that was not true. Well, 63 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: if you can, you sort of have to bend your 64 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: wrist in in two opposite directions, but you can get 65 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: to it from the back, which you might find works 66 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: is And I'm trying to remember if that's either fifteen 67 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: millimeter not sixteen millimeter. I think, um, okay, I had 68 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: a and well, and you know, five was a weird 69 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: eight five was a weird time period. It could be 70 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: this size or that size. We hadn't gone completely the 71 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: metric yet, and it was. And I've had it where 72 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: I could have two eight five grand Marquees in the 73 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: shop and one would be more metric than the other, 74 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: and one would be more standard than the other, and 75 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: that those were the day's boy. Um, you may find 76 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: using an offset box wrench gains you some clearance regardless 77 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: of what size you think it is. So what I 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: would probably try to do it. I would take a 79 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: socket in my hand and see if I can get 80 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: a socket on there. That's how I would size it 81 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: so I'm not frustrated trying to bend a wrench around 82 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: things sideways. And then once I go the size for sure, 83 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: then I would find either a single box, a single 84 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: offset box or a double offset box, something with a 85 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: little bit more of a of a depth to it 86 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: that would allow me to spin that bolt so it 87 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: would spin. Now, understand this, The front of that pulley 88 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: has a half inch drive squared tang hole in right 89 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 1: at it. Right if if you don't put a half 90 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: inch short stubby extension and a ratchet on that or 91 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: a break or bar on that to move the pulley. 92 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: The don't expect it to move on its own, because 93 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: you'll you'll be there all day long. It's it's it's 94 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: yeah and that and that's all you need. You need 95 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: something to nudge it a little bit. Because that belt, 96 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: as tight as it is, is actually it was a 97 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: very poorly made bracket and it's actually it's actually cocking 98 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: the bracket to one side keeping it from moving. It's 99 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: actually gouging it into that aluminum bracket. I remember that 100 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: aluminium bracket. I looked at that and I said, how 101 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: did you make this out of aluminum? I guess we 102 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: were into weight savings. Or we had a bunch of 103 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: soda cans left over. We melted them down and made 104 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: a c brackets three five more keys. Um, but uh, 105 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: you know, they're good cars. Car probably go another five 106 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: or six or ten or twenty years. Yeah, either either 107 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: that or end up in New York City as a 108 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: taxi cab if they painted yellow, there you go. But 109 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: they're good cars, brother, So all right, but that'll do 110 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: it for you. That'll do it, all right. I think 111 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: I got I'll tell God I did fun while I 112 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: was waiting to the phone call. I've got a four 113 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: inch flexible extension. I might be able to swing that 114 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: in over the right. Yeah. And and the smog pump 115 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: is the the smog pump is the problem there. And 116 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of case and here's the argument. 117 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: In the shop. I've got a lot of quarter inch stuff, 118 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: quarter inch quarter in sockets, quarter ins drive sockets that 119 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: I've I've got all the way up to sixteen millimeter 120 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: now with very long quarter inch drive ratchets that uh, 121 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, credit to them their snap on and they 122 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: will take the beating that you can't pull on if 123 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: you break it your hand, it back to the guy. 124 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: But sometimes sometimes you can't get big stuff in there. 125 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: It's just it's just impossible to do. And yeah, it's 126 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: just not great, not great ideas, not great ideas of 127 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: a brother. So that's uh, you know you can tell 128 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: where yeah, you can tell where Ford wasn't thinking and 129 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: that that wasn't the days when they were. So they've 130 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: come a long ways since then. I looked on YouTube 131 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: and they don't even have nothing listed to do anything 132 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, well, let's listen, Darryl. Everybody on YouTube 133 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: doesn't understand. Come on, it's that car so well, nobody 134 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: remembers that car. Well, I've always done all pretty much, 135 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: but that's it. You'll say, you get the bolt in 136 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: the back room. All right, kiddo, you take good care 137 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: and keep on listening to the car doctor. We appreciate it, 138 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: Kay and West Virginia eleven Kia, How can I help 139 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: Hi appreciate you taking my call. Um, we've got a Kia. 140 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: We checked the engine and oil before we took a 141 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: trip to Virginia and then to Pittsburgh. Everything there was 142 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: oil splashed on the left side of the engine when 143 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: you're looking at it, so we didn't have time to 144 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: get that checked, so we just went on our way 145 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: to Virginia. Once we got to Pittsburgh and then we're 146 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: heading back down to West Virginia. It started leaking oil 147 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: like crazy. I mean we had to actually, um, we 148 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: put some stop leak in that didn't work. We probably 149 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 1: put in eleven to twelve quarts of oil in order 150 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: to get home from Pittsburgh to to uh West Virginia, 151 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: which was like a four hour drive. Um. Keys, he 152 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: is telling us it's the oil sending unit. We took 153 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: it to a couple of other mechanics in town who 154 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: are saying it's the major oil seal, which would be 155 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: covered under warranty. Um, at advanced Auto you can get 156 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: a little oil sending unit for like twenty bucks. Kia's 157 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: telling us it's a twenty plus four to install, and 158 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: we're just wondering whether or not they're trying to not 159 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: covered under warranty or whether it's really the oil sending units. 160 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: You have any ideas valid, all valid, all valid questions, Kay, 161 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: and I can understand some of the confusion. First of all, 162 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: let's talk about parts pricing. You know, you're in a 163 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: lot of cases you're going to find the aftermarket parts 164 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: are generally cheaper in some cases. In most cases, I'm 165 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: not impressed by cheaper parts. My concern is quality of part. 166 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: So is that is that twenty dollar part comparable to 167 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: the D and twenty dollar part, if that's what it 168 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: truly is, and listen, it would be easy enough for 169 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: you to check to see parts pricing. Just jump online, 170 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: right in, just type in um KEYA parts or KEYA 171 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: online Auto parts search. I guarantee you there's more than 172 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: a few KEYA dealers searching parts online. And if you 173 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: enter in your if you enter in your vent or 174 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: your make, model of car and just type in oil 175 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: pressure sending unit, you'll find it and they'll tell you. Now, 176 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 1: they may be a little bit cheaper. Things are always 177 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: a little cheaper online. We're not paying for the brick 178 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: and mortar building, and I unders stand that. So the 179 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: value there is you buy it from the brick and 180 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: mortar building and have that brick and mortar building install it. 181 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: Now you've got somebody to go back to in the 182 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: event that there's a problem under warranty. So the parts 183 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: thing is easy to discern. Um um. I wouldn't be 184 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: impressed by an order parts house saying, hey, we can 185 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: sell you the hundred and twenty parts from twenty bucks, 186 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: because it could be a it could be a white 187 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: box offshore you know part that you wouldn't use it 188 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: the chalk the wheels if you don't want to keep 189 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: the car from rolling. If you follow what I'm saying, 190 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: so the value of the part is easy. The difference 191 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: between the sending unit and the rear main seal. I 192 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that it's a rear main 193 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: seal pumping out twelve quarts of oil in a four 194 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: hour car ride. And and this should be a fairly 195 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: easy diagnosis. This should be that if we're if we 196 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: just simply wash away the area that's suspected an oil 197 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: pressure center, is going to be a hardcore pressure leak. 198 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: Think of think of a leak at the kitchen sink, 199 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: all right, if if the pressure pipe, if the feed 200 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: for the cold water line was leaking, you'd have a 201 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: puddle underneath from the sink to the front door. Right, 202 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: It's just it's just sprintson out all the time. But 203 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: if it if it was the seal around the sink, 204 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: where the sink meets the countertop, it's not gonna be 205 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: under any force and it's not going to disperse nearly 206 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: as fast. I would think this is an easy thing 207 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: to see. And I would call up Kia and say listen, 208 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: here's my concern and see what sort of reaction you get. 209 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: You know, part of being a mechanic is bedside manner. 210 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: It's it's how you explain things to people and how 211 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: you talk to people. And if you're talking to people, 212 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: are not at them. You know it. Generally it stands 213 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: for what that repair shops about. Who's your regular mechanic. 214 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: Is the Kia dealer, your regular mechanic, or is one 215 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: of the guys in town, your regular mechanic one of 216 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: our guys. Okay, so your guy in town saw it 217 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: and he said it's the rear main seal. Um. One 218 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: of the guys actually put it up on a lift 219 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: and that's what he said he thought it was. But 220 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: was that your regular mechanic, the guy you normally go to. Um, No, 221 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: he was somebody else. He wasn't our regular guy. Our 222 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: regular guy did a visual look under the car and 223 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: it was leaking on their parking lot. So, um, that's 224 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: determination that they came up with. So nobody's really so. 225 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: So nobody of consequence or that we really trust has 226 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: put it up in the air, washed it down and 227 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: diagnosed it to this point. Correct. Then I don't have 228 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: another point. Yeah, I was gonna say. Then I think 229 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what stay right with you are? Okay, 230 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: let me pull over, take the pause. I don't want 231 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: to rush. This is a good question, good storyline. Um, 232 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: we'll come back to you right after this. I'm Ronning 233 00:12:54,520 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: eating the car doctor. Don't go away. That's right. If 234 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: you call and we're not live, you can leave a 235 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: message and we'll call you back to get you on 236 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: the air with Ron zero nine zero zero. Speaking of 237 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: Ron here he is. Hey, we're talking with KA and 238 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: West Virginia. K. You're still there, so you know. The 239 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: final solution here comes back to a what's that sender 240 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: really worth? I'm thinking about it during the pause that 241 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying A hundred twenty bucks sounds like a lot 242 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: of money. Either that or we're talking about two different parts. 243 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: So I think you've got to check that online. That's 244 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: the first step, you know, I could I could see 245 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: and and understand you're gonna see some variation on pricing, 246 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: because any business is going to put a certain amount 247 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: of overhead on that part coming to market. You know, 248 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: what does it take to get there? I mean there's 249 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: a you know, so if it's if it's twenty bucks 250 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: and they put ten dollars on the fifteen dollars on it. Okay, 251 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: I understand that a hundred and twenty sounds like it 252 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: sounds like a lot, all right, So that could be 253 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: the first step. Good ahead, good you're question for labor? 254 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: Is it a difficult part to replace? Well, if it's 255 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: the part I'm thinking of, I believe it's on the 256 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: number two or forward cylinder bank over on the passenger 257 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: side of the engine. It's up top, it's fairly accessible. 258 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: So how did how did they come to the four eight? 259 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: And again, any repair shop charges you something, they they 260 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: should have to justify that cost in some way, shape 261 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: or form. And I'm not saying every repair, every repair 262 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: for every customer required. Here's how we're gonna do it, 263 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: and here's why it's gonna take so long. Imagine going 264 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: to your doctor and every time you went in for 265 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: an operation, he had to sit down and explain the 266 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: process to you and why it cost what it would cost. 267 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: Nothing would ever get done in this country. So a 268 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: reasonable is hey, K, you know it's it's it's it's 269 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: three and a half or four hours of we have 270 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: to take this particular part out all right. But I'm 271 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: thinking that that oil pressure center is up top on 272 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: the pass on the over its cylinder head or bank 273 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: number two, and it's fairly accessible. So where did they 274 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: come up with the four eight? Now? You know, a 275 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: lot of it depends on what do they charge per hour. 276 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: I've i've I've always used a hundred A hundred and 277 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: twenty dollars an hour is a good barometer. So if 278 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: we say it's a hundred an hour, they're saying it's 279 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: almost five hours of time. If it's a hundred and twenty, 280 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: it's almost four hours of time. Um, four hours sounds excessive, 281 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: So you know, is there is there a disconnect? And 282 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: I always try to give everybody the benefit of the 283 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: doubt by thinking that is there a disconnect? Are we 284 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: talking about? Four eight? Is the total price? One for 285 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: the sender and three hours to you know, do the part? 286 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: And maybe part of those three hours is to clean 287 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: up the excess oil. Maybe they're going to try and 288 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: get it rid of us, because I'm sure the oil 289 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: is hit in the rear bumper if it's pumping it out. Um, 290 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, four courts or you know, I'm sorry, twelve 291 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: courts and a four hour trip, it's gotta be everywhere. 292 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, so it's it's got to be everywhere. Um. 293 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: I can say in my forty three going on forty 294 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: four years of repairing cars, I've never seen a rear 295 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: main seal pump out oil that much. Um it would 296 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: it would? You know? To me, that would be really excessive. 297 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: But to me, this is an easy diagnosis. Wash it down, 298 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: started up. Where's the leak? If this is a pressure 299 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: leak out of the sender and it's up top of 300 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: the motor, like I believe it to be. If that's 301 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: the one we're talking about, we're gonna see it right away. 302 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: It's it's sort of obvious. You can probably if you 303 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: have the car there at home today, you could pop 304 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: the hood and go over and look on the passenger 305 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: side front of the motor. You'll see a motor mount 306 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: and you may see, um, you may see oil in 307 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: that area on the passenger side front motor mount down 308 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: where the A C hose comes into the compressor. And 309 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: if it's soaking wet with oil up there, If the 310 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: top of the motor is wet with oil, that's not 311 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: a rear main seal. The rear main seal is down 312 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: underneath in the back of the engine. Um, yeah, it's up. 313 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: It's the whole side of the passenger side of the car. Yea, yeah, 314 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a pressure that sounds like an 315 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: oil center to me. So it's kind of scary because 316 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: if the other mechanist can't tell the difference between the 317 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: oil pressure center at the top and the romains still 318 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: at the bottom, we got a problem there. So we 319 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: need to get a new mechanics. Need to get a 320 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: new mechanic, is right. Um, but that's where I think 321 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: you are darnaling. Okay, they ask you one more question 322 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: in regard to this real quick, Okay, what is the 323 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: purpose of the oil pressure sending unit besides being the 324 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: indicator on the dash? That's it? Well, some cars will 325 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: have double function where where where they will monitor the 326 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: oil pressure through the sending unit on certain manufacturers to 327 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: turn on or off the fuel pump as an override 328 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: safety in the event of vehicles in an accident. But 329 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, on that car and the majority of cars, 330 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: it's really just oil pressure for oil pressure warning light 331 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: on the dash or to run the gauge on the dish. 332 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: Other than that that's that's really it. Um. I've got 333 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: to say, though, in conclusion, five bucks to replace an 334 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: oil pressure center. If we four A plus one, something 335 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: doesn't sound right. We've got to get a better explanation. 336 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: And it's it's within your right to ask for a 337 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: written estimate. I don't know of any state where that's 338 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: not not permitted that you can say, Hey, break it 339 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: down for me and give me a good reason. I'm 340 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: trying to make you my mechanic. Ky. I appreciate the goal, 341 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: and thanks for being part of the Car Doctor family. 342 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the Car Doctor. If we're back 343 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: right after this, hey, welcome back. Just a reminder, this 344 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: portion of the Car Doctor is brought to you by Ford. 345 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, if you're driving a forward product, you 346 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: want to make sure you're using Motorcraft parts for all 347 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: your repair and maintenance needs. For close to five decades, 348 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: Motorcraft has stood. The name has been the name that 349 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: stood for durability and quality. Motocraft parts are for o 350 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: RE approved specifications and performance for all Ford and Lincoln repairs. 351 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: Motorcraft offers an extensive parts lineup, which means that you'll 352 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: find the right part with the right fit the first time, 353 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: helping to reduce vehicle downtime. Motocraft right part priced Right, 354 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: Let's get back to the show. Speaking of getting back 355 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: to the show, where we start, where we start at 356 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: the top of the hour. You know your kids. Have 357 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: you talked to your kids about their car? Or maybe 358 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: it's your car they're driving and you want them they're 359 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna take it away in a long trip, or they're 360 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: gonna take it away on vacation, or they're gonna go 361 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: to Wait, they're gonna go to college with it. Do 362 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: you talk to your kids about the car? You better 363 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: talk to the kids about the car before they have 364 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: the problem. Some basic things. Do then how to check fluids? 365 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: Do they know what the fluids are? Do they know 366 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: how the fluids have to be serviced? And owners Manual 367 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: has an awful lot of information in it today. And 368 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: while there's a certain science to breaking down that Owner's 369 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: manual and how to make it work. I like to 370 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: go to the BAC index a lot because there's a 371 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: lot of information you'll pick up. You know, how to 372 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: set the clock if you look it up in the front. 373 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: Is it under instrumentation, is it under maintenance? Is it 374 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: under you know electronics adjustments. Is it under dashboard? There's 375 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: a hundred places you can think of. You go to 376 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: the index, look up, clock, reset, boom, there it is. 377 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: But fluids, your kids should know what the basic fluids are, 378 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: what they can get to oil break, fluid, wash or fluid. 379 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: And just to know, hey, here's the coolant level. Never 380 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: take the top off the radiator cap. But know where 381 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: the coolant level is and understand. So if they're on 382 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: a long trip and they want to check fluid levels 383 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: day to day, they understand what it is they're looking at. 384 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: Is there a flashlight in the car? Just a small flashlight. 385 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: They make them today in so many shapes and sizes, 386 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: right with with long life batteries. Just to have a 387 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: flashlight so that they're not stuck out there in the 388 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: dark trying to fix something by the side of the 389 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: road using a match. Um days of sordid youth. Look 390 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: at the tires. Your kids understand what it is about. 391 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: You know good tires, bad tires, under inflated, over inflated. 392 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: That they know how to put air in the tire. 393 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: Do you know how to put air in the tire? 394 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm hoping you do. I'm hoping you've been driving a while, 395 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: you've kind of been down the road, and think back 396 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: to all the problems that you've had over the past 397 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: ten or in my case more and heres driving a 398 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: car and all the things that could have gone wrong, 399 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: and you know how you overcame all the obstacles. That's 400 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: what it's about. It's about keeping the kids safe. More 401 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: to come. Right now, let's get back to the phones. 402 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: Let's go over and talk to Francy in Michigan with VIC. Francy, 403 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: how can I help? Welcome to the car, Docker, Hi, 404 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: can you hear me? Okay? Sure? Ken, can you hear me? Okay? Yeah, 405 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm good and we're good. This is radio. What's going on? So? Um, 406 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: we have inherited from our mother in law who passed 407 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: Crowns VIC with fifty three thousand miles on it nice 408 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: and low, so hasn't even really been broken in yet. 409 00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: But since she's had the car and never fixed this issue. Um, 410 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: you get to I believe you you used to be 411 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: able to go uh high your mileage on it, but 412 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: when once you get to forty miles an hour, it's 413 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: it starts to shimmy. It sounds like this. This sounds 414 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: like airplane. It's starting to shimmy. It's starting to shake. 415 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: Uh the images that come to mind, Um, so it's 416 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: it's it's doing a shimmy at forty? Is it like 417 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: a hula in the seat of your pants? Is the 418 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: steering wheel shaking? Is it? It's like a Um you 419 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: just see a field vibration in the top of the hall. 420 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: So is it France or your voice is changing? Um? 421 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: Is it lookt I kind of figured, um so, so 422 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: is it just a vibration throughout the vehicle? It's almost 423 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: like a hesitation. Yeah, So let me ask you this 424 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: is it? If have you tried coasting at forty it's 425 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: right at forty? Does it continue or to that go away? 426 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: If you go faster faster? Does it feel like if 427 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: you're does it feel like it's coming from the rear 428 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: of the car? No? Front? From the front. So I'm 429 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: sure you've been down the road where you've no pun 430 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: intended where it's You've had the tires checked for balance 431 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: and straight yeah, okay, and everything looked fun. Yeah, I 432 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: think it's personally. I think it's a transmission. Well, so 433 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: if you're holding it right at forty and you this 434 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: has this has one D and D with a circle 435 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: on the shift indicator. If you look at the shifter, okay, 436 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: if you drive it in D, does it do right? Well? 437 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: Not not D with the circle if you drive it indeed, 438 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: so it won't go into overdrive. That's the difference. One 439 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: is overdrive. One is without overdrive. If you drive the 440 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: trans and in drive, so overdrive doesn't engage. Does it 441 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: have the vibration? I don't know. Okay, that's step one, 442 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: step two. If it still has the vibration when the 443 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: vibration is happening while you're applying the gas, if you 444 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: tap the brake pedal, does the vibration go away? If 445 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: the vibration goes away, what you're doing is when you 446 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: tap the brake pedal, the computer sees that as an 447 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: interpretation of you wanting to stop and slow down, and 448 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: it will disengage torque converter lock up if it's a 449 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: torque converter shutter. Um, I just noticed it when you're 450 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: on the freeway and stuff mostly or when I'm a 451 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: rosy has a fairly high speed, right you know? Okay, 452 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: So the third thing I want to mention is the 453 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: fact that this is original with such a little mileage 454 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: on it. The reason I asked, you know, where do 455 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: you feel it from? I'm wondering if this is a 456 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: bad universal joint front or back and not necessarily a 457 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: universal joint that somebody would know by looking at like 458 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: is it worn out? But is it a bad universal joint? 459 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: Sets that it's frozen or rusted. It's it's just stuck 460 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: and it doesn't have the ability to flex. And you 461 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: get up the thirty eight forty miles an hour and 462 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's gone into this vibration mode 463 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: and it's it's constant for the next fifteen or twenty miles. No, 464 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: it's for five miles miles an hour. Watch it feels 465 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: like it when it's shifting gears myself. Okay, alright, Well, 466 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: like I said, you've got to you've got to either 467 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: drive it in a different gear position or tap tap 468 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: the brake pedal and see if that makes a difference. 469 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: If it doesn't, if it doesn't, end you're absolutely short. 470 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: Tires are balanced, wheels are straight, you know, Just because 471 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: tires can be balanced doesn't mean they're straight, all right 472 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 1: in terms of doesn't mean wheels are straight. Looking at 473 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: the wheels while they're on the balancer is also a 474 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: good indicator too. So then then the next step would 475 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: be just for giggles, it'll take ten minutes. Pull the 476 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 1: drive shaft down. Feel both you joints. What do they 477 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: feel like? Do they feel flexible? Do they have movement? 478 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, thank you, you're very welcome. Let us 479 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: know what happens. I will okay, thank you, Goodbye to 480 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: both of you. Good luck to you. You're welcome, Bye bye, 481 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: you have I thought I thought, I thought Francie went 482 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: through went through a change there or something. All of 483 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, it was, you know, I thought I was 484 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: talking to tom Um. I wasn't quite sure what the 485 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: heck happened. Hey, when the car doctor returns, we're gonna 486 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: continue the conversation. Your kids that they know how to 487 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: with the car. I'm ronning any of the car doctor. 488 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: Don't go away. We're back right after this. Welcome back. 489 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: We're on any of the car doctor here. Let's get 490 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: over to Dodge in Delaware. This is getting confusing. Dodge, 491 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: it's dodging Delaware driving a Jeep. How come it's not well? 492 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: I guess you can't be Delaware and Dodge driving a jeep. 493 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: But I get it. So how are you today, Dodge? Well, 494 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: my father, my father always told me never and I did. Well, 495 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: you know what? You know what cheap stands for it, 496 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: don't you? I can imagine just expect expensive. Uh just 497 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: oh oh, junk each and every part. And I'm sorry, 498 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: I had a thing for a second, I got I 499 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: got stime it. I was thinking about something else. Um, 500 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: jeep junk each and every part. So you don't you 501 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: don't want to You want to know what Dodge dance 502 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: for it, don't you? You want to know what for 503 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: didn't you? I know what Ford stands for, so dodges, 504 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: Uh drip soil, drips, grease everywhere. I hope that doesn't. 505 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: I hope that's not your excription. Not. I'm not there yet, 506 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: not there yet, but soon. So what's going on with 507 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: this jeap? Brother? With the jeep? All of a sudden 508 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: the braakes got spongy or soft, and now I know 509 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: it's it's sort of change the break that was going 510 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: to the floor, and uh, we put a master cylinder 511 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: on it and now it's just completely changed. Now it's 512 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: if you let's car sit, it's got a hard brake. Pedal, 513 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: but when you push that button and push on the 514 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: brake to start it, it just dumps to the floor. 515 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: So what I want you to do is make sure 516 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: even if, even if in your mind's eye you remember 517 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: it being there, I want you to pull the master 518 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: cylinder back off and make sure the O ring is 519 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: there that seals it to the booster, because they're supposed 520 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: to be They're supposed to be an O ring there. 521 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: From what I remember from the ones i've done that 522 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: there's an O ring that seals the booster and the 523 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: master together. And I've also seen it where it's it's 524 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: kind of rusty and it's it's it's crutty and it 525 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: sticks to the old Master. When you change it, you 526 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: don't realize it's there and it gets tossed. So make 527 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: sure that O ring seal is there, make sure it's 528 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: in good shape. Make sure it's not rusty, crutty, or cut. Okay, 529 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,239 Speaker 1: that's that's number one. It's pretty everything was pretty clean car. 530 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: It's a really clean car. Well, I can do that, 531 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, do you be that without breaking? He probably 532 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: should be able to pull it forward just enough. You 533 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: have to put a mirror underneath it. Just to just 534 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: to see it. I just want to know that it's there. 535 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: That's all um, quick and simple. So number one, number 536 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: go ahead, you started. I was gonna say number two. 537 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: We've had a lot of issues with boosters on this 538 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: particular truck, a lot of issues. Yeah, and you know 539 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 1: the old rule still applies. Pump the pedal ten twelve, 540 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: fifteen times. It should be you know, hard like a rock, 541 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: and then started up, and that pedal should drop away 542 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: an inch inch and a half two inches because vacuum 543 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: is gonna override and pull it down if that pedal 544 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: doesn't have an immediate response to it and then feel 545 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: like it's got power assist. I'm gonna tell you, in 546 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: all likelihood have a bad booster. And you know that's 547 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: that's that's part of this problem. Now that now the 548 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: part about the pedal going to the floor, you know 549 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: it'd be when you crank it. What do you mean 550 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: when you crank it? Say, I just did it like 551 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: half an hour ago. I let it sit. I went 552 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: out there and I had like half a pedal, and 553 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: I pumped it up and all the way hard pedal, 554 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: and I started the car and then it just jumped down. 555 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: I didn't let it go away to the floor. But 556 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: that's where it was going as soon as you crank it, 557 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: unless unless the booster is pulling it down. But I've 558 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: never really measured that. I've never sat there and said, hey, 559 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: how good are the brakes when I want to go 560 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: to start it. Let's let's let's judge them for what 561 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: they are when we're just trying to stop. So when 562 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: you when you're pulling up to stop sign from forty 563 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: miles an hour, put your foot on the brake, does 564 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: it go to the floor? No? Okay, stop? Normal. We 565 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: did a couple of panic stocks stops last night, just 566 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: trying to see what was going on. It seems to 567 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: work it okay, okay, So then what sure complaint here? 568 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: The fact that the pedals hard dodge. There's something wrong. 569 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: It's not like it was. You know, well, when a 570 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: booster goes back, makes it huff noise, right, it's doing that, 571 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: And and the pedal was spongy now and it's way 572 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: closer to the floor than it used to be. Maybe 573 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: we're missing the O ring by the master cylinder. The 574 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: plot thickens. Maybe you know, it could very well be 575 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: that simple. Brother. So but if if if the pedal 576 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: changed since you replace the master, remember the rule? All right, 577 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: do you still have the old Master? I do? Okay, good, 578 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: because there's no rule saying, you know, what is new 579 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: stand for? As long as we started this conversation with acronyms, 580 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: what does new stand for? Dodge good? Never ever worked? 581 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: And then how do we know that it's How do 582 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: we know that it's the right part? Just because the 583 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: catalog said, so, did you match it up? Did you 584 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: look at did you look at the throw of the 585 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: push rod going into the old master, the depth of 586 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: the push rod? Yeah, yeah, they look the same, some kinds. 587 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: I can tell you got it from the jeep dealer. 588 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: The chances are it's right, but I would, I would. 589 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: I would just want to make sure that that over 590 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: ring is there and then call me back next week. Alright, okay, 591 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: I'll check that. Alright, alright, you have a good rest 592 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: of the weekend, zero, trust me, look at the small 593 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: stuff first. I'm running any of the car doctor. I'll 594 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: be back right after this for the back running in 595 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: the car doctor, winding it down this hour. You know, 596 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: there's so many things you can do with your kids 597 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: and cars and teaching them and giving them the basics 598 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: to avoid that panicked phone call. We've been talking about 599 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: at this hour here on the car doctor and I 600 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: want to close it out with this simple stuff. Have 601 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: you walked around the car looking at all the lights? 602 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: Did they understand what what the brake lights are? Where? 603 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: They are obviously in the back of the car, but 604 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: some cars there's two break lights on each side, one 605 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: on the deck lid, one on the trunk, and one 606 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: on the outer portion or in the outer tail light. 607 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: You know, just looking at lights is gonna number one, 608 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: keep them safe. Number two, if they have an issue, 609 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: it will avoid them being pulled over unnecessarily, maybe when 610 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: they're doing the wrong thing. Not the kids do the 611 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: wrong things in cars. I was a little angel, I'm sure, 612 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: but you know, just just look at the lights. It 613 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: doesn't hurt. Okay, Um, you avoid the ticket. You know, 614 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: sometimes that car is driving around without a headlight and listen, 615 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: I've been in cars. It took me, uh, it took 616 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: me a week and a half to realize because I 617 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: don't go out that much in the dark. The suburban 618 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: had a left headlight out recently, and I was like, well, 619 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: I must be getting old. I can't see anything. I 620 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: so I really jeez. The headlights out on the left side. 621 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: Hello beam, look at this. I gotta pay more attention. Um. 622 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: And last, all right, last, and I'm gonna tell you 623 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 1: about flat tires. And you know, should they know how 624 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: to change a flat tire? Do they know where the 625 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: flat tire is? And then over all the components are 626 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: all the things necessary to they know what the wheelock is, 627 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: where the wheelock he is? Do you know where the 628 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: wheelock he is? So basics about the car? What do 629 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: you know so you can avoid the problem when there's 630 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: an emergency. I think the most important thing that all 631 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: of us need to understand is what do the dash 632 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: lights mean? Do you ever look at a dashboard? We 633 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: had a twenty nineteen Cadillac Escalade in the shop just 634 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: Friday Thursday this week. Oh my god, it's got a 635 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: dashboard like a pinball machine, thousand dollar vehicle. I almost 636 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: fell over when he told me, all right, it's got 637 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: every bell and whistle, every option. But he can program 638 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: the dashboard and make, you know, move this around and 639 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: put this over here. But all the icons, all the 640 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: things that light up. And he started asking me questions 641 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: about what does this mean? And what does that mean? 642 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, let's get out the owners 643 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: man and we went through it. There was almost seven 644 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: pages explaining what dashboard lights mean. You know, I'm not 645 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,479 Speaker 1: saying you gotta memorize everything, but understand what lights mean. 646 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: Pull over now and what lights mean. Hey, when you 647 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: get to a repair shop or a gas station, have 648 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: somebody look at it. You know, sometimes knowing what dash 649 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: lights means can mean the difference between Oops, we need 650 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: an engine and hoops were okay, we're able to get home. 651 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm on an Adian, the car doctor reminding you good 652 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see you