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Speaker 1: The Crown is yours. Welcome. Welcome in, Jay Stu. You'll

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Speaker 1: love this so as you guys know. And I popped

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Speaker 1: on the show yesterday from the airport. We were in St.

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Speaker 1: Thomas and the Virgin Islands for the last week with

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Speaker 1: and we're digging out the snow today. But such is life.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Gottlieb Show. Good to be back, Good

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Speaker 1: to be with you. Let's talk some sports, shall we.

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Speaker 1: I heard something from Joe Burrow and it's really interesting,

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Speaker 1: Like Joe Burrow today is going to be healed hailed

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Speaker 1: as a hero, right, I mean, just like like you

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Speaker 1: go through the heroes of our lifetime in sports, and

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's going to be listed a month those guys

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Speaker 1: because well, this is what he said. What he was

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Speaker 1: because they're out of the playoffs. Here's what Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: I understand why people feel that way, but if you

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna ever go to somebody and say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm healthy, But no, I don't think. I don't think

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Speaker 2: I should go out there and play. That doesn't make

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the idea is that we're somehow making it

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Speaker 1: heroic for Joe Burrow to do his job, which is

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Speaker 1: becase quarterback of the Bengals. And what he's saying is like,

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Speaker 1: I'm a football player. I play football. When there's a

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's a catch twenty two or jaxtaposition. Chase,

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Speaker 1: do you're you can parse my words as as much

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Speaker 1: on one hand, and Jason, I think you like to

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Speaker 1: poke fun at gen Z rightfully so for how they

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Speaker 1: have become just an entitled generation of people. But if

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Speaker 1: you think about it, the people who are asking Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: why are you playing the games don't mean anything because

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Speaker 1: Those are the same people who are critical of modern

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's kind of a fascinating social experiment here.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, I there's lots of things you

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Speaker 1: Everybody that that that uh plays sports understands that the

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Speaker 1: That's what you do. On the other hand, it's our

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Speaker 1: So do I think that Joe Burrow is a heroic figure?

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Speaker 1: Not about heroic, but it's the kind of message that

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow fan. On the other hand, isn't he simply

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Speaker 1: doing his job. It's like the old Chris Rock bit

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Speaker 1: And the root cause of the problem is not gen Z,

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Jason, it's an interesting You're right, it's an

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Speaker 4: you know me, I don't. I don't do this lightly.

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Speaker 4: I don't go here often, but I will say this,

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Speaker 4: how much how much does race play into this? How

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Speaker 4: much of the load management is black guys not work

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Speaker 4: play Joe Burrow? Why would you play Joe Burrow? The

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Speaker 1: It hadn't come to my mind at all.

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Speaker 1: Oh I well, I don't. I don't know on on Burrow.

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Speaker 1: I mean, part of Burrow's thing is he has been

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Speaker 1: So it's it's more than just like, well he's never

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Speaker 1: that there's always going to be a group of people that,

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Speaker 1: My issue with that is I have a blind spot

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Speaker 1: it's there with football, because I think that people believe

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady played twenty years, Yeah, the urs ACL Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But it is a tremendous social experiment.

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Speaker 4: And you bring up the that the fact that there

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Speaker 5: Remember, would you rather being a spot where you can

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Speaker 3: And I'm glad you asked that. When you're talking about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. Yeah, it's just it's such a bad narrative.

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Speaker 1: I do think there are people that believe that. I

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's what some people do believe, and

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Speaker 1: The Las Vegas Raiders out, well, they just no offense.

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Speaker 7: Very annoyed by gut Later No, No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 7: It's not you, Doug all right. I would actually like

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Speaker 4: Now here's what.

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Speaker 7: Here's a guy who I thought had been completely humbled

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Speaker 7: So I felt for a guy who was humbled and

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if you check on that. I

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, for all the reasons Isaac just pointed out.

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Speaker 7: Now because his team's in national championship contender? And I

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Speaker 4: He called Aubrey a cat twice. I don't think any

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Speaker 4: I need the team that makes you fall asleep the fastest.

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Speaker 7: the way, all right now onto references that the rest

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Speaker 7: of our audience will understand.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 7: I'm also going to go to the NBA, which is

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Speaker 7: kind of an indictment on Adam Silver that it's not

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Speaker 7: the first team but the Atlanta Hawks. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 7: not saying this to be a sarcastic jerk, even though

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Speaker 7: I am one. But can you guys tell me since

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Speaker 7: the days of Dominique Wilkins when the Atlanta Hawks have

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Speaker 7: ever been a nationally relevant team? Not necessarily in terms

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Speaker 7: of success, because they've had successful teams, but have they

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Speaker 7: ever been captivating enough to talk about? Like I literally

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Speaker 7: had to look up what their record is this year,

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Speaker 7: and they're actually having a decent season. They're eleven and eight.

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Speaker 7: They're in sixth place in the Eastern Conference right now.

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Speaker 7: But I cannot remember literally when.

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Speaker 1: They went to the Eastern Conference finals. But still but no,

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Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah, here's right, No, no, I got it.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I do have a take that

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Speaker 1: maybe today's not the day for but it's you know,

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Speaker 1: the the Mavericks fired their gentle manager for trading away

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Speaker 1: a beloved superstar, right, and the Hawks fired Landry Fields

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Speaker 1: because he didn't in many ways, because he didn't trade

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Speaker 1: away their beloved superstar in Trey Young. Like Trey Young's

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Speaker 1: crazy popular in Atlanta, but you can't win it. You

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Speaker 1: can't win big with Trey Young as your best player.

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Speaker 1: And thus they could enter they didn't trade him, everybody

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Speaker 1: lost their jobs.

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Speaker 7: Right, and and and even before that, I mean, I literally,

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Speaker 7: I'm like I said, I'm not trying to be sarcastic,

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Speaker 7: but I don't remember since the days of Dominique Wilkins

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Speaker 7: when they have been a captivating national teams or story. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: you're absolutely right, they're and they're not a minor market team.

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Speaker 4: We've been waiting a good ten minutes for Ryan Smith

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Speaker 4: to come up with his response to Doug picking Ryan

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Speaker 4: Clark and the Raiders in his choice. So so Ryan

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Speaker 4: Smith got my popcorn, Matty. That's great. The biggest turkey

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Speaker 4: in sports right now?

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Speaker 8: Well, this is only for selfish reasons. My biggest turkey

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Speaker 8: is Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 4: Good choice because he's.

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Speaker 8: On my fantasy team and I needed him yep, to

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Speaker 8: keep going in our pool in our league, and he

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Speaker 8: couldn't play because he likes the spit in people's faces.

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Speaker 8: Thanks Jamar, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Good choice.

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Speaker 8: The best dish side dish. I would go with Higgins

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Speaker 8: because he's also on my fantasy team. But guess what,

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Speaker 8: uh I started him and then he got a concussion

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Speaker 8: and he got knocked out of the game, So that's great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Bengals centric. Is he gonna go three for three?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 8: I not. But the team that puts.

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Speaker 1: Me to sleep? What's in the turkey, Bobby? What makes

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Speaker 1: people sleepy?

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Speaker 8: The Saints? They are so boring to watch. Say what

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Speaker 8: you want about the Raiders, but it's like a train wreck.

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Speaker 8: At least it's entertaining for me because like, wow, they're

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Speaker 8: so bad, but they're bad in a entertaining way. The

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Speaker 8: Saints are just boring, Like that Saints Falcons game, My god,

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Speaker 8: I went.

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Speaker 4: To sleep Boom, how about that? How about the Midway guys?

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Speaker 4: We incorporated a holiday into sports content. I don't think

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Speaker 4: it's doing that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really unique. It's really unique.

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Speaker 7: You know what you wanted to do, Jason one time

496
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Speaker 7: in the future. You ought to pick out a subject

497
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Speaker 7: and have the top four and call it the Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that's ever been done before.

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Speaker 1: is the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Sor Sanders had another time with the media today. Here's

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Speaker 1: what he had to say.

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Speaker 9: All your supporters out, I'd dare say that that Kevin

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00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 9: Stefanski was sabotageing me.

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Speaker 10: So you just want to start trouble.

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Speaker 9: I know, I want to ask you with your relationship

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Speaker 9: with him.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Well, what people do outside the building isn't really

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Speaker 10: in my control, is not in my power. So you

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Speaker 10: had like I go out there and tell him to

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Speaker 10: do whatever. You know, that's that's not nothing I could

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Speaker 10: control or nothing I could do. But overall, you know,

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Speaker 10: I'm just happy to be here. Co Stefanski, you've been coaching,

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Speaker 10: uh since I got here, and uh, you've been doing

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Speaker 10: a very great job, you know, with everything that's going on.

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Speaker 9: But what is your relationship like with him? And when

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Speaker 9: we don't see you guys together.

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Speaker 10: Definitely like a coach, you know, he tells me what

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Speaker 10: I need to do on and off the field. We've

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Speaker 10: definitely grown our relationship and everything is grown. So I'm

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Speaker 10: just thankful to be here.

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Speaker 1: Well that was a non answer answer, wasn't it. That

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Speaker 1: was a non answer answer, And that non answer tells

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Speaker 1: you everything you need to know. Tells you everything you

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Speaker 1: need to know. Oh wait, there's more. Here's Kendrick Perkins.

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Speaker 1: He was on a podcast this week. This is his

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Speaker 1: comment about Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 11: Shadula Sanders is the most powerful black man since two

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Speaker 11: thousand nine. You know it happened in two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 11: that's when President Obama got elected in office. He's the

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Speaker 11: most powerful black man since two thousand and nine. You

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Speaker 11: said you were sitting there watching the game in your house.

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Speaker 11: And what you did, you ran, You ran with the TV. Right,

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Speaker 11: what was you doing, dB? You was chairing like when

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Speaker 11: Shadua Sanders is on the field. And when I say powerful, powerful,

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Speaker 11: because it's two sides of it, right, think about it. Okay,

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Speaker 11: you got the black community. He bringing the whole black

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Speaker 11: community together. I ain't ran across one black person that

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Speaker 11: then said one bad thing about should do it. We

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Speaker 11: won't even guess what not one because he has the balance.

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Speaker 11: He has the balance of that. I'm arrogant, but I'm

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Speaker 11: humble too, and he having fun with it. And on

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Speaker 11: top of that, y'all want me to say it ain't

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Speaker 11: y'all want me to fail. It ain't gonna happen. He's

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Speaker 11: the most powerful black man in sports, no other, no other,

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Speaker 11: matter of fact, black man. He the most powerful player

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Speaker 11: in sports.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know where to go with a lot

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Speaker 1: of that. I will say this, I have. I mean,

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Speaker 1: half my team is is black. I have half my

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Speaker 1: staff as black, and and the general consensus from my

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Speaker 1: staff guys is they are big Shador and Dion fans.

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Speaker 1: Chadoor and Dion fans. He's not the most powerful guy

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Speaker 1: in sports. I do think that the black community by

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Speaker 1: and large embraces him and seems to have made this

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Speaker 1: into some sort of uh racial thing. Well, it's it's

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Speaker 1: comedy because Dylan Gabriel is not white, you know. And

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, by the way, the guy who was the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback before injury for the Cleveland Browns, who has

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Speaker 1: the largest guarantee in the history of the league, just

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Speaker 1: so happens to be black as well. That's the actual

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: too it that has nothing to do with race, and

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Speaker 1: that Kendrick Perkins, maybe he's been hanging out with Ryan

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Speaker 1: Clark too much, is making it completely about race. But

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Speaker 1: I do think the black community has embraced him. I

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Speaker 1: don't think any of the other stuff is true or

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Speaker 1: factual or whatever. But I just again, this is why

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Speaker 1: it better work, because if it doesn't, nobody wants that

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Speaker 1: on their team. Nobody wants the idea of if you

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Speaker 1: don't play a guy, you're racist or you don't want

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Speaker 1: him to do well. And Shador is not helping it. Mike, Look,

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Speaker 1: you have to stop lying to yourself and lying to

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Speaker 1: the public. You do whether or not she door has

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Speaker 1: a good repute, a good relationship with Kevin Stefanski or not.

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Speaker 1: The answer he gave is a telling answer, and it

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Speaker 1: is a terrible answer because it throws fuel to the fire.

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Speaker 1: It's very easy because his initial part of the answer

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Speaker 1: was great. The initial part of the answer is there's

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Speaker 1: lots of noise outside the building. I can't control that, period,

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Speaker 1: stop fix it. Then the guy's like, no, but what's

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Speaker 1: your actual relationship? Like, well, he's like a coach and

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Speaker 1: it's gotten better, and he tells me what to do.

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Speaker 1: The only answer you need is, hey, people outside, they

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Speaker 1: don't know what's your relationship? Like great, awesome, He's been great.

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Speaker 1: I keep learning. I love his offense. I love it here.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to get out there and show everybody

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Speaker 1: what we're putting in between last week and this week.

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Speaker 1: That's the answer. That's how you do it. And we

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Speaker 1: can sit there and go like, well, he's young, he

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Speaker 1: isn't bull bull because he could take coaching from his dad,

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Speaker 1: and his dad is not helping him. His dad is

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Speaker 1: hurting him because he just killed his coach once again,

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Speaker 1: without trying, without openly trying to play that answer for

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Speaker 1: me one more time before we bringing Rich Hornberger. Remember,

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Speaker 1: listen to the entire because the first part is good.

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Speaker 1: First part is like, hey, I can't control everything else.

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Speaker 1: But then when they follow it up and ask what

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Speaker 1: your asking relationship is, that's when he stepped in.

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Speaker 9: All your supporters out, I dare say that that Kevin

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Speaker 9: Stefanski was sabotaging.

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Speaker 10: So you just want to start troubling out.

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Speaker 9: I know, I want to ask you what a good

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Speaker 9: relationship with him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Well, what people do outside the building isn't really in

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Speaker 10: my control, is not in my power, so you had

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Speaker 10: like I go out there and tell him to do whatever.

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Speaker 10: You know, that's that's not nothing I could control or

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Speaker 10: none could do. But overall, you know, I'm just happy

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Speaker 10: to be here. Go Stefanski. You've been coaching, uh since

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Speaker 10: I got here, and uh, you've been doing a very

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Speaker 10: great job, you know with everything that's going on.

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Speaker 9: But what is your relationship like with him? And when

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Speaker 9: we don't see you guys together.

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Speaker 10: Definitely like a coach, you know, he tells me what

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Speaker 10: I need to do on and off the field. We've

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Speaker 10: definitely grown our relationship and everything is grown. So I'm

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Speaker 10: just thankful to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he is, he says grown. He didn't say it

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Speaker 1: was good. He didn't say it was great. He made

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Speaker 1: it out like he's weosed doing on and out the field.

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Speaker 1: It feels like he's like a parent. It's a bad answer.

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Speaker 1: It's bad as he was doing so well up into that.

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Speaker 1: But hey, he's been doing great with everything. But what's

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Speaker 1: your relationship actually like? It's like a coach like a player.

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Let's welcome in

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Speaker 1: Rich Ornberger. He joins us now on Fox Sports trad

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Speaker 1: He's got his own daily radio show in San Diego.

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Speaker 1: you think of Shador Sanders's answer when he was asked

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Speaker 1: about his relationship with his coach.

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Speaker 12: I didn't have an enormous problem with it, but I

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Speaker 12: do agree with you there is an answer that is

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Speaker 12: going to lead to zero media questioning, zero criticism, and

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Speaker 12: then there's the answer that he gave. Look, everybody knows

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Speaker 12: the right answer. He grew up in a house with

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Speaker 12: a father who's a professional football player, former professional football

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Speaker 12: player turned coach. He has been media trained since he

649
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Speaker 12: was in high school. He knows exactly what he's doing

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Speaker 12: every step.

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Speaker 13: Of the way.

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Speaker 12: So trust me when I tell you, and I don't

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Speaker 12: need to tell you. But he's not careless with his words.

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Speaker 12: He knows what he's doing, and he knows what he's

655
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Speaker 12: saying when he says it's a growing relationship instead of.

656
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Speaker 13: It's a great relationship.

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Speaker 12: He knows what he's inferring. When he tells a reporter

658
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Speaker 12: who asks him about the relationship that he tells me

659
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Speaker 12: what to do on and off the field. He knows

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Speaker 12: that that is going to paint a portrayal of the

661
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Speaker 12: relationship in a certain light. That is going to lead

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Speaker 12: to some either condemnation from people around the Brown who

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Speaker 12: think that Shador is being strangle held by this organization

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Speaker 12: in some way, or it's going to be you know,

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Speaker 12: it's going to potentially lend credence to the argument that

666
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Speaker 12: he really needs to be reined in by this organization.

667
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Speaker 12: Whatever he knows, he's going to make a headline. And

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Speaker 12: so I completely agree with you that there is a

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Speaker 12: team friendly way to answer questions, and there is the

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Speaker 12: way he decided to answer the question, and he knew

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Speaker 12: exactly what he was doing.

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, what

673
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Speaker 1: did you actually think of how he played?

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Speaker 12: You know what, Look, he's got a lot to improve on,

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Speaker 12: but I can see the light.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 12: I don't want to make the comparison because I don't

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Speaker 12: think it's apt.

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Speaker 13: But if you looked at Josh.

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Speaker 12: Allen when he came into the league, he was he

681
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Speaker 12: was an unfinished product. You know, he was an unfinished product,

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Speaker 12: and he was playing with the guy who I think

683
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Speaker 12: offensively really understood what he needed in Brian Gable, and

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Speaker 12: he developed over years. It literally took years into a

685
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Speaker 12: top tier caliber starting quarterback in the league. And then,

686
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Speaker 12: you know, last year he won the MVP. So he's

687
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Speaker 12: continued to grow and he's continued to assert himself in

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Speaker 12: the correct directions. Now do I think that Cador Sanders

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Speaker 12: could ever play to the level of Josh Allen, I

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Speaker 12: don't know. I mean, it's so hard to get to

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Speaker 12: that that top echelon, you know, where we're talking about

692
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Speaker 12: maybe the five greatest players playing in the NFL currently,

693
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Speaker 12: it's hard to get there, so will he I don't know.

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Speaker 12: But but what I can tell you about the samples

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Speaker 12: of Shador Sanders that I'm watching is there are times

696
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Speaker 12: where he's doing some really boneheaded things with the football.

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Speaker 12: There's times where the scheme isn't helping him, and there's

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Speaker 12: time where I can see exactly the reason why, you know,

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Speaker 12: he was considered a top tier talent leaving college and

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Speaker 12: then you know, fell down the draft board obviously for

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Speaker 12: you know, either exterior reasons or personality reasons, or you know,

702
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Speaker 12: or potentially certain talent evaluators just didn't love the way

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Speaker 12: he played. But I can see the talent, So it's

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Speaker 12: a little bit of a mixed bag. It's still extremely

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Speaker 12: early to say for certain whether or not he's going

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Speaker 12: to be, you know, a Josh Allen or if he's

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Speaker 12: going to be you know, sort of an afterthought quarterback,

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Speaker 12: you know that ends up being a career backup.

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Speaker 1: Stug Ottleeb show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the

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Speaker 1: voice of Rich Ornberger. Course Rich played in the league,

711
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Speaker 1: covers the league. You can listen to them here on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Countdown to kickoff every Sunday Morning, which

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Speaker 1: is presented by Bett mgim. All Right, let's get to

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Speaker 1: the teams that actually matter. That's my one thing about

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Speaker 1: the Browns, Like, why are we talking about the teams

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Speaker 1: that don't matter? Game that matters? Packers and Lions. Packers

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Speaker 1: and Lions. Game wasn't truly competitive when it was playing Lambeau.

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Speaker 1: But that's first game of the season, new staff for

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Speaker 1: the Lions. This time around, Detroit's a three point favorite.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of Packers Lions Ford Field tomorrow

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Speaker 1: noon Central time?

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Speaker 13: Man, I'll tell you what. It's really good to get

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Speaker 13: the Packers at home if you're the Lions, Because the

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Speaker 13: Lions I think we were all expecting them to be

725
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Speaker 13: a more complete theme they have been so far today.

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Speaker 12: Dan Campbell has struggled in some ways calling this offense

727
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Speaker 12: and then as a result of having Micah Parsons that

728
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Speaker 12: you have to plan your offense around when you face

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Speaker 12: the Green Bay Packers. That doesn't make life any easier.

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Speaker 12: I mean, he's a he's.

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Speaker 13: A great player, and you know, you better get those

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Speaker 13: tackles some help he's got.

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Speaker 12: He's got some really high level offensive lineman on that

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Speaker 12: on that team. But you either need to get the

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Speaker 12: ball out of Jared Goff's hands immediately, or you need

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Speaker 12: to get Penney Sule and Taylor Decker some help. And

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Speaker 12: and and that means chip help from the backs and

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Speaker 12: tight ends coming in there and bumping Michael Parsons off

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Speaker 12: this rush. And that means double teams sliding to Micah

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Speaker 12: Parson's way. And that also means getting Jamar Gibbs or

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Speaker 12: Jamiir Gibbs involved in the passing games. You know, I mean,

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Speaker 12: even if even if you're only fitting two yard passes

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Speaker 12: or three yard passes, getting the ball into hands of

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Speaker 12: a playmaker beyond the line of scrimmage, if he can

745
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Speaker 12: make one man miss, we know he can make the

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Speaker 12: defense pay. And that is going to help Jared Goff

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Speaker 12: get rid of the football sooner, which I think should be.

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Speaker 12: It'll be mission critical in this game against the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams now, I mean sixteen touchdowns, four interceptions. Everybody

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Speaker 1: has an opinion on a week to week basis, Give

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Speaker 1: me the thirty thousand foot view of the Bears of

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. As Friday they get the Eagles coming off

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Speaker 1: that loss to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 12: Caleb Williams has improved a great deal with Ben Johnson

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Speaker 12: as his as his coach and you know, kind of

756
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Speaker 12: by proxy, his offensive coordinator. I'm not saying that I'm

757
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Speaker 12: I'm a believer in Kate Williams, and I think that

758
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Speaker 12: he is going to be, you know, the next Steve

759
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Speaker 12: Young or anything that was like a Patrick Mahomes for example.

760
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Speaker 12: But I've seen some upside here since getting a voice

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Speaker 12: in the headset who really seems to understand how to

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Speaker 12: limit his liabilities and how to really focus on his strength.

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Speaker 12: And he's shown some improvisational skills at times this season

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Speaker 12: that really impressed me. Now, you know, do I think

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Speaker 12: that they're going to end up winning the NFC North

766
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Speaker 12: the Bears led by Caleb Williams, I don't know. I

767
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Speaker 12: think that's a really competitive division, and I think a

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Speaker 12: lot can happen after Thanksgiving, so we'll see starting with

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Speaker 12: the Eagles here on Friday. But do I find myself

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Speaker 12: more and more pressed with Caleb Williams, Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 12: I think he had kind of a rough start. We

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Speaker 12: were just talking about Shador. He kind of had a

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Speaker 12: rough entry into the NFL as well, because of some

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Speaker 12: of the grumblings about how his father was going to

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Speaker 12: get involved if the wrong team drafted him, and there

776
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Speaker 12: was some scuttle butt about whether or not he would

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Speaker 12: even play for the Bears, and you know, they end

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Speaker 12: up taking him, and you know, that storyline kind of

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Speaker 12: goes away, but the feeling I don't think ever did,

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Speaker 12: so I think that's stuck with him for the first

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Speaker 12: full season. I think here with a new head coach,

782
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Speaker 12: he's looking much more competent, and so this could be

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Speaker 12: a year where they either sneak into the I would

784
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Speaker 12: guess that the Bears end up being a wildcard team

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Speaker 12: if I were to put like my name on it

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Speaker 12: right now, I think the Bears don't end up winning

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Speaker 12: the NFC North. I do think they sneak into the

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Speaker 12: postseason as a wildcard team, and then from there you

789
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Speaker 12: roll the dice. You know, who knows, maybe they can

790
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Speaker 12: sneak off with the first round win.

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Speaker 1: Stuck Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Trader, that's the

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Speaker 1: voice of Rich Ornberger. Rich nobody thought much myself included

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Yet here they are at five hundred, fresh

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Speaker 1: off win over the Eagles and the Chiefs. Everybody just

795
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Speaker 1: assumes they'll figure it out and they have that they haven't.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge game for the Chiefs, and suddenly Cowboys

797
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Speaker 1: seem competitive with it. Can they upset the Chiefs tomorrow?

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Speaker 12: They can?

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Speaker 1: They can.

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Speaker 12: I think that if you believe all of the hype,

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Speaker 12: you assume like the Chiefs are going to win another

802
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Speaker 12: Super Bowl or appear in another Super Bowl and the

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Speaker 12: Dallas Cowboys are destined to be you know, dog meat

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Speaker 12: of the NFC. But don't buy the hype. I mean,

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Speaker 12: just watch the games. The Cowboys have all pro talent

806
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Speaker 12: on that offense. The Cowboys have a defense that's really

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Speaker 12: struggled this year, but they've won some track meets and

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Speaker 12: they've made some plays when they've needed to defensively in

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Speaker 12: tight games. Now, in the NFL, it's very different from college.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 12: Look, you can have teams on your schedule late in

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Speaker 12: the season where you're going to beat them by forty

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Speaker 12: points because you're thirty seven and half point favorites. You know,

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Speaker 12: in the NFL, everybody can beat everybody. So you can't

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Speaker 12: convince me that this is just a rollover game for

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Speaker 12: the Chiefs, like they are going to just you know,

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Speaker 12: just because they're coming off a fresh window going to

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Speaker 12: ot with the Colts, and you know, and and you

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Speaker 12: know they're playing on a short week like that that

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Speaker 12: they will automatically lose. No, they're not going to roll

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Speaker 12: over for anybody. But I also don't consider them automatic

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Speaker 12: winners either because of where they've been and who they are.

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Speaker 12: They still got to play these games. In the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 12: they're a formidable threat. And I think Dak Prescott is

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Speaker 12: playing some really good football and nobody seems to notice

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Speaker 12: because he's got just above a five hundred average or

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Speaker 12: five hundred record with the five to five and one

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Speaker 12: record that the Cowboys are boasting right now.

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Tradier. Last thing

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Speaker 1: we started the show talk about Joe Burrow and how

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Speaker 1: now he's going to be this heroic figure because he's

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Speaker 1: playing football when they have a very very very mendisical

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Speaker 1: chance of making the playoffs and rich it does strike

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Speaker 1: me as ironic that you're in my generation, like we're

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Speaker 1: the ones that kind of came up with the idea

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Speaker 1: of sitting guys. It might have been agents back in

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Speaker 1: college football, right, but sitting guys because well, they didn't

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Speaker 1: have much to play for and load management in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't make sense. Nobody would thirty years ago,

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Speaker 1: nobodyould say, hey, you shouldn't play because you're not in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, But now it's very much part of the conversation.

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Speaker 1: That conversation has been started by our generation. But we're

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Speaker 1: the same generation that's critical of the guys now for

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Speaker 1: missing games when they're healthy enough to play. Where do

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Speaker 1: you stand on Joe Burrow becoming kind of a hero

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Speaker 1: for yesterday, going like, look, I'm a football player. If

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Speaker 1: I get hurt, I'll rehab and I'll come back next year.

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Speaker 1: Be fine, right.

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Speaker 12: I love the attitude. I love the attitude, and you

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Speaker 12: know I agree with you. I think there are times

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Speaker 12: where a coach needs to come back and throttle back

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Speaker 12: a player, but that needs to be how it goes.

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Speaker 12: I don't think. I don't think it's a good message

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Speaker 12: to send when you're a team leader and one of

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Speaker 12: the best players not only on the field but on

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Speaker 12: the planet, and in a reckless game like football, you're

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Speaker 12: saying things like, hey, I got to really look out

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Speaker 12: for the future, not only mine, but the future of

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Speaker 12: this franchise, because they're really going to need and rely

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Speaker 12: on my talents next year. No, no, no, screw that.

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Speaker 12: You need to be the guy that's chomping out the

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Speaker 12: You know you miss nine weeks of the season with

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Speaker 12: if you want to play when we're we're closer to

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Speaker 12: Like that's the way this should have been. If it's

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Speaker 12: gonna be messaged, it should be messaged. So I think

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Speaker 12: Joe Burrow is pitch perfect here. If the coach thinks

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Speaker 12: it's okay for you to play, if the trainers and

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Speaker 12: the doctors think it's okay for you to play, then

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Speaker 12: you better go play football, because guess what, you are

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Speaker 12: a grown man playing a kid's game for Kings Ransom

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Speaker 12: and it is the best job on Earth. And Doug,

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Speaker 12: I know you welcome me on because I like to

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Speaker 12: it is one of the most fun games and most

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Speaker 12: fun things you could do with your life playing in

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Speaker 12: that league. So if you got a quarterback who does

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Speaker 12: want to get off the field, you got the wrong quarterback.

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Speaker 12: So I think Joe Burrow is hitting all of the

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving. Doug anytime, Happy to do it.