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Speaker 1: My guest is April Ryan. She's a White House correspondent,

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Speaker 1: CNN political analysts, DC bureau chief for The Grio, Arthur

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Speaker 1: and speaker and her book Black Women Will Save the

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Speaker 1: World and Anthem. Author Apral Ryan celebrates black women's resilience

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Speaker 1: and strength, champion those who have transformed their pain in

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Speaker 1: the progress despite economic, political, and social challenges. The book

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Speaker 1: celebrates America's founding black women are mothers as she rose,

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Speaker 1: as well as today's Black women leaders like voting right

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Speaker 1: activists Stacy Abrons, Farmer, Atlanta Mayor Keeach Lanch Bottoms Pull

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Speaker 1: a Surprise Winner, the co Hannah Can the Cohannah Jones,

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Speaker 1: and Vice President Kamala Harris, to name just a few.

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Speaker 1: April Ran also pays tribute to mothers, nurses, teachers, activists,

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Speaker 1: and community leaders, noting that all Black women make the

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Speaker 1: extraordinary ordinary. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass, April Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for happening me. I'm so excited to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you well. You know you on a face, I'm

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Speaker 1: very familiar with, April uh. But first before I even

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Speaker 1: get into that, you know, I want to acknowledge the

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Speaker 1: fact that there you are an HBCU graduate Morrigan State.

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Speaker 1: Sean Yes, Morgan State, and a good friend of mine,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Frasier went to Morgan State too, didn't he? Morgan

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Speaker 1: studer I Allas makes the league christ In food A

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Speaker 1: Wilson good ears my man, that's my man. You know,

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Speaker 1: because when when the the George Floyd incident happened in

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Speaker 1: color incident murder should be called a social upheaval in

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Speaker 1: this country and in the world. You know, hpc US

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Speaker 1: will basically push to the forefront. And then there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of corporate and um private donations made to hbc

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Speaker 1: US and even this year it was over two billion

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Speaker 1: dollar contributions to HBCUs. With that being said, it and

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Speaker 1: I always preach black excellence. When I talked about HBCUs,

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Speaker 1: culture we call America. What is your reaction to going

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Speaker 1: to an hbc U because your mother taught an hbc

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Speaker 1: my mother was director of student activity. She didn't teach,

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Speaker 1: here today. But now I'm an HBCU baby. I grew

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Speaker 1: up on on an hbc U campus, Morgan State University. UM.

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Speaker 1: Growing up on a campus, you're exposed to a lot

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Speaker 1: of excellence. You're exposed to open mind and and and

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Speaker 1: uh open open mind is UM if you would say, UM,

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Speaker 1: I experienced a lot of exploratory pursuits about life before

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Speaker 1: I even knew would life right? You know? So, and

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Speaker 1: that allows you to be able to have that you know,

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Speaker 1: that ability to the resiliency that you talk about in

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Speaker 1: your book as a black woman, but also the resiliency

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Speaker 1: to handle situation, that uncomfortable situation and when you're just

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Speaker 1: we've seen play out at the White House, play out

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Speaker 1: with the personal I felt attacked by then President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: How did you handle that? And who were the people

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Speaker 1: a daily basis. Black women were my support. Black women

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Speaker 1: You know, when you came on so so God with

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Speaker 1: really don't realize what other people are going through and

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Speaker 1: But I want to think I think mostly about black women,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's what you wanted to accomplish

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Speaker 1: But when you were being challenged consistent like that, how

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Speaker 1: This is my this is my dream, this is my career.

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Speaker 1: And nobody's gonna back me down. All that you said,

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Speaker 1: I was attacked in every way. I had the FBI

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Speaker 1: I was speaking to April Ryan, she's White House correspondency

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Speaker 1: and Pillows analysts. We're talking about her book, Black Women

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Speaker 1: Will Save the World an anthem, also about her personal

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Speaker 1: especially covering it during the Trump administration. Now, let's get

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Speaker 1: to the book, Black Women Will Save the World, because

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Speaker 1: it's really a history book and talking to about you know,

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. We are we are decider in elections.

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Speaker 1: It's important. We'll be right back with more money Making

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Speaker 1: when you look at that, because that's that's you know,

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Speaker 1: because you're right in there. You've seen the shift of dynamics.

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Speaker 1: World and Anthem by April Ryan. Thank you for coming

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