Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is my trusted colleague,
Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our studios
Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West. We might as well start
Speaker 1: with the bit of draft news for the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers that came out late last week, and that is
Speaker 1: that the Packers have been awarded four compensatory draft picks
Speaker 1: in the upcoming two thousand and eight teen draft. To
Speaker 1: make sure I get this right, it is a fourth rounder,
Speaker 1: two fifth rounders, and a sixth rounder. Did so, all right,
Speaker 1: So those four draft picks being added to what the
Speaker 1: Packers already had. Um, and we'll get into a bit
Speaker 1: of a discussion here about how those are determined. I
Speaker 1: think you know more about this than I do, because
Speaker 1: I still get confused by this whole process. But anyway, UM,
Speaker 1: new general manager Brian Goodacuns got quite a haul of
Speaker 1: picks here for his first draft as general manager. He does.
Speaker 1: I mean those four compensed story picks is as we
Speaker 1: talked about before, that now puts the Packers since they
Speaker 1: started the process second all time to the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: I think they're like five or six behind them. This
Speaker 1: has been a tried and true method. When you have
Speaker 1: a draft and developed team, you do most of your
Speaker 1: work through the draft, and you're gonna see some of
Speaker 1: those guys leave on second and third contracts. This is
Speaker 1: the benefit to it. So for the Green Bay Packers,
Speaker 1: the fourth round of the two fifths, the six that
Speaker 1: is going to give them twelve in this upcoming draft
Speaker 1: when you factor in the competed story pick I shouldn't
Speaker 1: say competed story, but the corresponding pick that they're gonna
Speaker 1: be receiving for Laurenti McCrae in that trade back in
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen from the with the Buffalo Bills. So
Speaker 1: with those picks, they're even more leverage now, Mike than
Speaker 1: they used to be because back in the day, all
Speaker 1: of two years ago, you couldn't trade those competed story
Speaker 1: picks and to use them. So now that gives good
Speaker 1: Counts a little bit more am initition to if he
Speaker 1: wants to move up in the middle rounds or whatever
Speaker 1: he wants to do. Um has that in his back
Speaker 1: pocket as well. Yeah, and just you know, for history's sake,
Speaker 1: it's worth pointing out some of the players that the
Speaker 1: Packers have acquired with compensatory draft picks in the past.
Speaker 1: Josh Sitton certainly comes to mind. Um, Mike Daniels. Mike
Speaker 1: Daniels is probably the biggest one, probably the biggest one
Speaker 1: of of of the bunch. There are others as well.
Speaker 1: As you said, this is uh, this is sort of
Speaker 1: a tried and true method for a draft and developed team.
Speaker 1: Because yes, the compensatory picks are slotted from the end
Speaker 1: of the third round to the end of the seventh round,
Speaker 1: so you're not talking about, you know, a top fifty
Speaker 1: draft pick here. But it gives a general manager more picks,
Speaker 1: more swings at the plate, more ammunition to either move
Speaker 1: around or to compile selections, because as we all know,
Speaker 1: there are draft picks that don't work out. Nobody bats
Speaker 1: a thousand in the draft. But the more picks you're
Speaker 1: able to acquire, the greater chance you have of of
Speaker 1: say a seventh rounder, turning out to be Donald Driver
Speaker 1: and becoming your all time leading receiver exactly. I thought
Speaker 1: Ron Wolf is the one that has the ultimate line
Speaker 1: in terms of how you approach the draft. It is
Speaker 1: going to the plate. It is baseball you're swinging. You
Speaker 1: want as many swings as you can because naturally you're
Speaker 1: gonna miss on some. It's just the way the game
Speaker 1: is played. And the teams that go through a draft
Speaker 1: and don't miss tend to be the ones that end
Speaker 1: up competing for Super Bowl championships within a year or
Speaker 1: two afterwards. The Green Bay Packers a good example that
Speaker 1: in two thousand nine. You also look at, you know,
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks and what they did in two thousand eleven.
Speaker 1: Competed story, picks are part of the process, Mike, and
Speaker 1: you mentioned you know, obviously Mike Daniels, Josh Sitton, but
Speaker 1: even the Blake Martinez is and you know Dean Lowry's
Speaker 1: of the world as well. Those and those were like
Speaker 1: back to back fourth round compensatory picks just a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. Yeah, And so I mean, those are
Speaker 1: the picks the Packers got when they lost Divon House
Speaker 1: and also Trumon Williams to free agency. In the story
Speaker 1: I always tell is they ended up getting back the
Speaker 1: same exact pick for Devon House as what they used
Speaker 1: on him in two thousand eleven. Through that process. That
Speaker 1: was kind of crazy. It worked out how that works out,
Speaker 1: and for the Packers perspective, you look at it, they
Speaker 1: lost Jared Cook, Micah Hyde, Eddie Lacey, T J. Lang,
Speaker 1: Julius Peppers, j C. Tredder in unrestricted free agency, guys
Speaker 1: who all had their contracts expire signed elsewhere. They only
Speaker 1: signed one outside unrestricted free agent, Jerry Evans that counted
Speaker 1: towards the formula. Since Martella's Bennett was released before week
Speaker 1: A week ten, I believe he doesn't actually count towards that.
Speaker 1: So this is probably the greatest mystery, kind of almost
Speaker 1: like the baseball arbitration in Major League Baseball. I don't
Speaker 1: ever really understood that process either, but where they take
Speaker 1: into account the contract, they take into account the playing time,
Speaker 1: and they take into account, you know, any accomplishments the
Speaker 1: player had. Nine times out of nine, it really seems
Speaker 1: like it is ultimately the contract that Besides this, and
Speaker 1: as we'll probably talk about a little bit more in
Speaker 1: the second segment, the fact that you really had some
Speaker 1: of these other teams that had guys at average contracts
Speaker 1: above ten million dollars a year is the reason why
Speaker 1: the Packers ended up not getting a third rounder, which
Speaker 1: historically has been I mean that that's probably is important
Speaker 1: as a compensatory pick gets because you're still picking in
Speaker 1: those first two days. So you've seen the draft formula
Speaker 1: chart and how important those middle round picks can be
Speaker 1: and how valuable they can be. Uh, this, as you
Speaker 1: said early on my for Brian goodacu instant opportunity. Now
Speaker 1: for him to go into this draft with that much
Speaker 1: ammunition is going to really behoove him in the in
Speaker 1: the long run. Yeah, I mean, I look at this
Speaker 1: as you know, when you get say an extra fourth
Speaker 1: round pick here like the Packers have, you know, you
Speaker 1: mentioned get Martinez and Lowry being back to back compensatory
Speaker 1: picks in the fourth round. When you have multiple picks
Speaker 1: in the middle rounds like that, that's where you know
Speaker 1: you and you might use your regular fourth round pick
Speaker 1: on David baktr and you get a hit right there.
Speaker 1: But but the flip side of it is you might
Speaker 1: use your regular fourth round pick on a guy who
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, but then that later fourth round pick
Speaker 1: in the in the compensatory selections becomes the guy that
Speaker 1: does work out. You probably had both of those guys
Speaker 1: rated about the same, but because you had the two
Speaker 1: picks within a span of fifteen or twenty there. Within
Speaker 1: the fourth round, you've got a great chance to hit on.
Speaker 1: The perfect example this is probably the two thousand twelve
Speaker 1: draft with Mike Daniels. If you go back to that year, Mike,
Speaker 1: the player that everybody thought was gonna be the real
Speaker 1: difference maker as far as the defensive line concern was
Speaker 1: drill Worthy. In no disrespect to drill Worthy, it just
Speaker 1: didn't work out for him in Green Bay as a
Speaker 1: second round pick, but the Packers did have that opportunity
Speaker 1: to go back. They did have that extra pick in
Speaker 1: the fourth round. Mike Daniels comes in a lot less heralded.
Speaker 1: I mean, a guy that was a game day scratch
Speaker 1: I think in the week two of the season, just
Speaker 1: didn't have that opportunity coming in with an injury as well,
Speaker 1: shoulder surgery and everything at the end of his college career,
Speaker 1: catches fire at the end of the season as six
Speaker 1: and a half SAX and next season and then he's
Speaker 1: on his way from there. It's one small part of
Speaker 1: the puzzle, but it's one that you definitely can't overlook
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, well, we need to talk a little
Speaker 1: bit more about this whole formula and how they figured
Speaker 1: this out. We'll get to that after the breakback with
Speaker 1: more on Packers Unscripted. Right after this, Welcome back to
Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair. Wes Hodkowits in
Speaker 1: that one. Okay, Wes this whole compensatory pick formula and
Speaker 1: how the league figures this stuff out. A lot of
Speaker 1: projections out there. You can find websites that are, you know,
Speaker 1: going to try to predict um who's going to get
Speaker 1: what compensatory picks and what round. The general consensus seemed
Speaker 1: to be that the Packers were going to get a
Speaker 1: third round pick because of t J. Lang, who had
Speaker 1: signed a contract for around nine million a year and
Speaker 1: end up making a Pro Bowl and all that. But
Speaker 1: the Packers didn't get a third round pick. There are
Speaker 1: only four teams that were awarded a compensatory at the
Speaker 1: end of the third round, and then the Packers got
Speaker 1: the first compensatory at the top of the fourth round,
Speaker 1: which tells you I would think, if I'm understanding this correctly,
Speaker 1: that they were really really close to having that fourth
Speaker 1: round compens story pick actually be thirty two slots higher
Speaker 1: and possibly be at the end of the third round instead,
Speaker 1: it didn't work out that way. Explain maybe how you
Speaker 1: think this fell and why it fell the way it did. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the part of the thing that I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be able to explain, because the NFL Management Council
Speaker 1: is ultimately the one that decides on these matters. Factoring
Speaker 1: in what we talked about in the last segment, salary
Speaker 1: average per year, you know how much the player played,
Speaker 1: and then also any accolades that player may have had.
Speaker 1: If this would have been two thousand seventeen, the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers would have been well in the clear to
Speaker 1: get a third round pick for t J. Lang Eleven
Speaker 1: compensed story picks in the third round last year. I'm
Speaker 1: not it is not privy to me. I don't understand
Speaker 1: how they decide the line of demarcation there in terms
Speaker 1: of where they break. They award thirty two. They award
Speaker 1: thirty two compensed story picks, but they can be spread
Speaker 1: out anywhere from the end of the third through the
Speaker 1: end of the second. So this year it's only four
Speaker 1: in the third round I think, or five whatever it
Speaker 1: ended up being last year eleven, so the Packers would
Speaker 1: have comfortably been in that situation. I think would have
Speaker 1: end up having the hundred and first overall pick. It's
Speaker 1: not the way it worked out though, So for the
Speaker 1: Packers perspective, now they take into account you can only
Speaker 1: have a max of four compensatory picks. Packers lost seven
Speaker 1: guys that can conceivably count towards the formula, but you
Speaker 1: can't get more than four. So how yes, exactly, um, so,
Speaker 1: however you want to figure that out, I'm not really
Speaker 1: sure where they you know, how they determine what the
Speaker 1: value is or how much in Eddie Lacy, you know,
Speaker 1: contract pushes up a particular round, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: The one thing that probably does hurt for the Packers
Speaker 1: is that if that sixth rounder could have became a
Speaker 1: fifth rounder, because again they'll be the first team picking
Speaker 1: from the compensatory process in the sixth round. If that's
Speaker 1: becomes a fifth rounder, it would be hard to imagine
Speaker 1: the Packers picking three guys within you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of picks of each other in the fifth round. But
Speaker 1: now that you can leverage that in a trade, that
Speaker 1: could potentially be bait to move up. And we know
Speaker 1: the difference and value of all those picks per round.
Speaker 1: So uh, I don't want to say obviously the Packers
Speaker 1: you know, ended up on the short end of the
Speaker 1: stick here, but to some extent, it does feel like that,
Speaker 1: considering the strength and how productive that that class of
Speaker 1: free agents was, that they lost. Yeah, and as you said,
Speaker 1: the compensatory pick in the sixth round was the first
Speaker 1: one that was awarded for the end of the sixth rounds,
Speaker 1: so that one was also very close to to to
Speaker 1: jumping up thirty two spots, um, you know, and uh,
Speaker 1: and the Packers would would have a shot earlier at
Speaker 1: another player. But it seems like when you just look
Speaker 1: at the numbers, and you and I were only looking
Speaker 1: at him briefly, but it would seem like where the
Speaker 1: NFL drew the line this year for the third rounders,
Speaker 1: for those top compensatory picks, it was guys that signed
Speaker 1: contracts that average ten million a year more and then
Speaker 1: t J. Lange was just below that ten million a
Speaker 1: year mark. And even though he made the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: and whatnot, um, he his essentially compensation ended up being
Speaker 1: the top pick of the of the fourth round. It
Speaker 1: is strange though to me that you'd have eleven third
Speaker 1: round compensatories one year and then only four in the
Speaker 1: third round the following year. It just I've said this
Speaker 1: in our Insider Inbox column. I've kind of given up
Speaker 1: trying to guess it and trying to figure out I
Speaker 1: just kind of sit back and wait and see what
Speaker 1: the Packers get. At the end of the day, the
Speaker 1: Packers got four picks. They have twelve overall in the draft,
Speaker 1: the seven plus the Laurenti McCray seventh rounder from a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and then the four compensatories. Twelve picks.
Speaker 1: That's a lot to work with. Let the records show.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever been right in terms of
Speaker 1: projecting this, and there are some websites I think Football
Speaker 1: Outsiders is one of them that do a really good
Speaker 1: job of it. But again they're also basing because that's
Speaker 1: one of the one of the big projectors this year
Speaker 1: that thought the Packers were going to get a third
Speaker 1: rounder for TJ. Lang, Taking too account how many third
Speaker 1: rounders were divvied out a year ago, I think the
Speaker 1: closest I'd probably have been is guessing fourth rounders for
Speaker 1: Truman Williams in Devon House. But there were other years
Speaker 1: where I thought the Packers were gonna get much more.
Speaker 1: You look at Casey Hayward end up having a Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl season. His contract though, didn't really allow that to
Speaker 1: jump past a fifth rounder. Um. So it's things like
Speaker 1: that that you have to take into account. As I said,
Speaker 1: it is kind of a mystery in terms of how
Speaker 1: they go about figuring these things out. What we do
Speaker 1: know though, at this point in time, the Packers with
Speaker 1: those four picks will have a lot of leverage for
Speaker 1: Brian Goodikut's in this upcoming draft. And I want to
Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about just where the Packers
Speaker 1: are positioned and how how the new GM might be
Speaker 1: able to use that. We'll talk about that after the
Speaker 1: breakback with more and Packers Unscripted right after this, Welcome
Speaker 1: back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford. Here, West, Hodko, It's
Speaker 1: over there, okay, West. So the Packers have twelve picks
Speaker 1: in this upcoming draft. A lot of focus obviously will
Speaker 1: be on the first round pick because the Packers are
Speaker 1: picking four in the first round that they have not
Speaker 1: had a pick this high in the first round since
Speaker 1: two thousand nine, when b J Rodgi was drafted with
Speaker 1: the number nine overall pick. This is a very interesting
Speaker 1: position for a brand new general manager to be in.
Speaker 1: The Packers have not been in this in this position
Speaker 1: for a long time, to get a player in the
Speaker 1: top half of the first round. Just your thoughts on
Speaker 1: kind of how where the Packers are situated here and
Speaker 1: how this might play out. So many parallels, Mike, between
Speaker 1: two thousand eight going into two thousand nine and now
Speaker 1: the Packers going into two thousand eighteen, you were obviously
Speaker 1: covering the team back then. The Packers coming off a
Speaker 1: disappointing year defensively, Mike McCarthy overhauls the defensive coaching staff
Speaker 1: and it begins with Dom Kaper's coming in and installing
Speaker 1: the three four defense. Ted Thompson right on board with
Speaker 1: everything gets Mike McCarthy gets Don Kapers the nose tackle
Speaker 1: they needed at the ninth overall pick end up setting
Speaker 1: up one of the better run defensive stretches the Packers
Speaker 1: have had in recent memory with him, Ryan Pickett and
Speaker 1: the other players there, and then also Ted Thompson the
Speaker 1: only time he did it, trading back into the first
Speaker 1: round to take Clay Matthews. The Packers get their pass rusher,
Speaker 1: a defensive player of the Year, candidate right off the
Speaker 1: bad for Green Bay obviously now becomes a six time
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl linebacker. There are a lot of parallels now
Speaker 1: with Mike Petton coming in here. Now, we'll have to
Speaker 1: see which direction they go with this pick. Packers haven't
Speaker 1: taken an offensive player in some time. Could this be
Speaker 1: a year to do it. We'll have to see. But
Speaker 1: to be picking four overall, and I thought Cliff Crystal
Speaker 1: on our website did a wonderful job of really explaining
Speaker 1: the challenges that Ted Thompson had. When you really go
Speaker 1: back and look at it. When you're picking outside of
Speaker 1: the top fifteen, and I believe it was eleven of
Speaker 1: thirteen drafts, that's difficult to do the bulls eye. You're
Speaker 1: you're stepping farther and farther back, so trying to hit
Speaker 1: that becomes significantly more difficult. Brian Goodaquins set it right
Speaker 1: from the day that he stepped up as in his
Speaker 1: introductory press conference as the new GM, this is an
Speaker 1: opportunity and unfortunate opportunity, but it is an opportunity to
Speaker 1: re energize the team and find some more prospects higher
Speaker 1: in the draft rather than having to project out you know,
Speaker 1: further down the line. Yeah, and you and I had
Speaker 1: talked about this last year on a couple of our
Speaker 1: road trips going to cover the team. When you looked
Speaker 1: at last year's Green Bay Packers defense and all the
Speaker 1: all of the players who were involved, the highest draft
Speaker 1: pick the Packers had on the field on defense at
Speaker 1: any time last year was the twenty feet overall pick,
Speaker 1: and that was ha Ha Clinton Dicks from two thousand
Speaker 1: and fourteen. Obviously, going back a couple of years, Julius Peppers,
Speaker 1: you know, had been a very high draft pick when
Speaker 1: he was selected, and uh, you go back a couple
Speaker 1: more years and b J. Rogie was obviously on the
Speaker 1: team this last year. You look, you look at when
Speaker 1: when the highest guy picked out of anybody who's playing
Speaker 1: defense for you is at twenty one overall, that's going
Speaker 1: to catch up with you at some point. That's just
Speaker 1: the way this league is. The league is. The league
Speaker 1: is built for parody. It's built for the the inverse
Speaker 1: draft order, as as we talked about. So this is
Speaker 1: a this is a huge opportunity for the Packers. Now
Speaker 1: that being said, doesn't mean they're going to pick defense
Speaker 1: at at number fourteen overall. Certainly, no, no guarantee in
Speaker 1: that regard, but um, but it's going to make you know,
Speaker 1: go everything going on with the combine and everything leading
Speaker 1: up to the draft, there isn't there isn't going to
Speaker 1: be quite as much uncertainty necessarily about who's going to
Speaker 1: be there. There's still going to be some when you're
Speaker 1: at fourteen, but as opposed to being at twenty five
Speaker 1: or twenty eight or something like that, where you just
Speaker 1: have no idea who might be on the board at
Speaker 1: that point, being at fourteen, the packers will have a
Speaker 1: little bit better idea of who they might have to
Speaker 1: choose from at that spot. Assuming that that Goodkins decides
Speaker 1: to stay there, Yes, and it is good Coins. You know,
Speaker 1: it's his job to move the chess pieces how he wants.
Speaker 1: If it was me in that role, though, I'd be
Speaker 1: really tempted to stay there because this is an opportunity
Speaker 1: that you haven't had to pick that high to have
Speaker 1: a chance to find a real difference maker. Because you know, Mike,
Speaker 1: there's twenty two positions on the starting on the field
Speaker 1: at any given time, there's only fourteen picks, thirteen guys
Speaker 1: ahead of you. It's a really good chance to potentially
Speaker 1: get maybe the best player at their position, and as
Speaker 1: far as a prospect, I think that's really enticing. One
Speaker 1: thing that did kind of frustrate me at times with
Speaker 1: Insider Inbox and I tried to, you know, VI as
Speaker 1: mature and professional about as possible, is a lot of
Speaker 1: people saying this pastoral. Why don't the Packers have a
Speaker 1: defense like Jacksonville, Why don't they have Jalen Ramsey in
Speaker 1: their secondary? Well two reasons for that. Jacksonville for years
Speaker 1: was significantly under the cap, which allowed them to sign
Speaker 1: Clays Campbell, which allowed them to sign Blak Jackson, and
Speaker 1: then also due to some of their losing seasons, were
Speaker 1: able to be third, fourth, fifth overall to get a
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. When you're picking higher, it's a lot easier
Speaker 1: to find those difference makers. Derek Barnett this past year
Speaker 1: of Philadelphia Eagles seven and nine, a year ago Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champions now makes one of the biggest plays of
Speaker 1: the game and recovering that fumble off the one hop
Speaker 1: Eagles win the Super Bowl four pick overall, We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens with this year's Yeah, you definitely it's you
Speaker 1: definitely don't want to miss on it, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: And as you said, this goes back to, you know,
Speaker 1: the transition with the coaching staff. Mike Petton coming in,
Speaker 1: he's going to be giving Mike McCarthy and Brian Goudakin
Speaker 1: some ideas as to as to what he's looking for now.
Speaker 1: If that player is there, maybe they take him. But
Speaker 1: there's also you know, as we'll talk about, leading up
Speaker 1: to the draft, you start thinking about wide receiver and
Speaker 1: tight end and offensive tackle and those types of things
Speaker 1: that you know positions you can never seem to have
Speaker 1: enough guys. So that's why, you know, you always focus
Speaker 1: on that, you know that that best player available mentality,
Speaker 1: because you don't want to leave that best player for
Speaker 1: somebody else to pick just because you're looking to fill
Speaker 1: a slote in whatever the Packers do with that fourteenth
Speaker 1: overall pick, it's good to keep in mind they'll also
Speaker 1: have the fourteenth pick in the second round as well. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Packers Unscripted, Mike Spofford alongside West Hot Quits.
Speaker 1: And what's one more point I wanted to make following
Speaker 1: up on what we were just talking about. You mentioned
Speaker 1: the Packers having obviously the fourteenth pick in the second
Speaker 1: round as well. You look at that that's actually going
Speaker 1: to be number forty five overall. Just for comparison's sake,
Speaker 1: Jason Spriggs, the Packers drafted him in the second round
Speaker 1: at overall, and Ted Thompson had to trade up to
Speaker 1: get to that spot at overall. The Packers are going
Speaker 1: to have the pick in the second round, and that's
Speaker 1: a spot they own. They don't have to necessarily give
Speaker 1: up another pick to get that. So again, just where
Speaker 1: your position here. This is a this is a unique
Speaker 1: and different opportunity for green Bay. But with that, I
Speaker 1: also want to follow up. You were talking in the
Speaker 1: last segment about the Jacksonville Jaguars in their defense. They
Speaker 1: made some news over this past weekend on the offensive
Speaker 1: side because they signed their quarterback, quarterback Blake Bortles, to
Speaker 1: a a contract extension. A lot of people wondering just
Speaker 1: what Jacksonville was going to do at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on their decision here? I think
Speaker 1: it was smart because if you look at exactly the
Speaker 1: numbers on this contract, he was going to be getting
Speaker 1: the fifth year option up. They already had done that
Speaker 1: a year ago, so he had one more year left
Speaker 1: and it was going to be a pretty significant cap
Speaker 1: number for them based on where he was picked third
Speaker 1: overall the number of seasons ago. So by doing the extension,
Speaker 1: not only does it lower the cap number for this year,
Speaker 1: but it really didn't guaranteed wise. I think it only
Speaker 1: increased the guarantees by like six or seven million, because
Speaker 1: that fifth year option is fully guaranteed for for skill
Speaker 1: and injury. So this is just a really interesting spot
Speaker 1: now for the Jaguars because now they have some time
Speaker 1: to figure out if Bortles is the man is going
Speaker 1: to be the guy that leads their franchise going forward.
Speaker 1: And it also is a really good reminder again of
Speaker 1: what you can do when you have a year or
Speaker 1: two left on a contract to leverage it, as opposed
Speaker 1: to what happened with Jimmy Garoppolo and what in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks will happen with Kirk Cousins. Well, there
Speaker 1: is no room to leverage it, and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to have all that money up front. Yeah. Well, and
Speaker 1: we've seen what happened with Kirk Cousins. He ended up
Speaker 1: not only getting the franchise tag because his contract had expired,
Speaker 1: but then they still didn't work out a long term deal,
Speaker 1: and then they franchise tagged him again. And now Washington
Speaker 1: got in the position where franchise tagging him a third
Speaker 1: time financially it's prohibitive. So they had to make a move,
Speaker 1: and they made the move to get Alex Smith. And
Speaker 1: now Kirk Cousins is is the top guy out there
Speaker 1: on the free agent market at quarterback. It is, and
Speaker 1: Alex Smith I think set a record for the mono
Speaker 1: guaranteed money in a contract as well. So it just
Speaker 1: tells you, Mike, the more you kick a can down
Speaker 1: the road, what the ramifications of that are. But hey,
Speaker 1: good for Kirk Cousins. He's a fourth round pick and
Speaker 1: now he's gonna get paid. Yeah, look at that. But
Speaker 1: with that, we will call it a wrap on this
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