1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is my trusted colleague, 3 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West. We might as well start 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: with the bit of draft news for the Green Bay 6 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: Packers that came out late last week, and that is 7 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: that the Packers have been awarded four compensatory draft picks 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: in the upcoming two thousand and eight teen draft. To 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: make sure I get this right, it is a fourth rounder, 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: two fifth rounders, and a sixth rounder. Did so, all right, 11 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: So those four draft picks being added to what the 12 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Packers already had. Um, and we'll get into a bit 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: of a discussion here about how those are determined. I 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: think you know more about this than I do, because 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: I still get confused by this whole process. But anyway, UM, 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: new general manager Brian Goodacuns got quite a haul of 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: picks here for his first draft as general manager. He does. 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean those four compensed story picks is as we 19 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: talked about before, that now puts the Packers since they 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: started the process second all time to the Baltimore Ravens. 21 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: I think they're like five or six behind them. This 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: has been a tried and true method. When you have 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: a draft and developed team, you do most of your 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: work through the draft, and you're gonna see some of 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: those guys leave on second and third contracts. This is 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: the benefit to it. So for the Green Bay Packers, 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: the fourth round of the two fifths, the six that 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: is going to give them twelve in this upcoming draft 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: when you factor in the competed story pick I shouldn't 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: say competed story, but the corresponding pick that they're gonna 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: be receiving for Laurenti McCrae in that trade back in 32 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen from the with the Buffalo Bills. So 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: with those picks, they're even more leverage now, Mike than 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: they used to be because back in the day, all 35 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: of two years ago, you couldn't trade those competed story 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: picks and to use them. So now that gives good 37 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Counts a little bit more am initition to if he 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: wants to move up in the middle rounds or whatever 39 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: he wants to do. Um has that in his back 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: pocket as well. Yeah, and just you know, for history's sake, 41 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: it's worth pointing out some of the players that the 42 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Packers have acquired with compensatory draft picks in the past. 43 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: Josh Sitton certainly comes to mind. Um, Mike Daniels. Mike 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: Daniels is probably the biggest one, probably the biggest one 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: of of of the bunch. There are others as well. 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: As you said, this is uh, this is sort of 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: a tried and true method for a draft and developed team. 48 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: Because yes, the compensatory picks are slotted from the end 49 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: of the third round to the end of the seventh round, 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: so you're not talking about, you know, a top fifty 51 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: draft pick here. But it gives a general manager more picks, 52 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: more swings at the plate, more ammunition to either move 53 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: around or to compile selections, because as we all know, 54 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: there are draft picks that don't work out. Nobody bats 55 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: a thousand in the draft. But the more picks you're 56 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: able to acquire, the greater chance you have of of 57 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: say a seventh rounder, turning out to be Donald Driver 58 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: and becoming your all time leading receiver exactly. I thought 59 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Ron Wolf is the one that has the ultimate line 60 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: in terms of how you approach the draft. It is 61 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: going to the plate. It is baseball you're swinging. You 62 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: want as many swings as you can because naturally you're 63 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: gonna miss on some. It's just the way the game 64 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: is played. And the teams that go through a draft 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: and don't miss tend to be the ones that end 66 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: up competing for Super Bowl championships within a year or 67 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: two afterwards. The Green Bay Packers a good example that 68 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: in two thousand nine. You also look at, you know, 69 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks and what they did in two thousand eleven. 70 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: Competed story, picks are part of the process, Mike, and 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned you know, obviously Mike Daniels, Josh Sitton, but 72 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: even the Blake Martinez is and you know Dean Lowry's 73 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: of the world as well. Those and those were like 74 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: back to back fourth round compensatory picks just a couple 75 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: of years ago. Yeah, And so I mean, those are 76 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: the picks the Packers got when they lost Divon House 77 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: and also Trumon Williams to free agency. In the story 78 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: I always tell is they ended up getting back the 79 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: same exact pick for Devon House as what they used 80 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: on him in two thousand eleven. Through that process. That 81 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: was kind of crazy. It worked out how that works out, 82 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: and for the Packers perspective, you look at it, they 83 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: lost Jared Cook, Micah Hyde, Eddie Lacey, T J. Lang, 84 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: Julius Peppers, j C. Tredder in unrestricted free agency, guys 85 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: who all had their contracts expire signed elsewhere. They only 86 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: signed one outside unrestricted free agent, Jerry Evans that counted 87 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: towards the formula. Since Martella's Bennett was released before week 88 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: A week ten, I believe he doesn't actually count towards that. 89 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: So this is probably the greatest mystery, kind of almost 90 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: like the baseball arbitration in Major League Baseball. I don't 91 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: ever really understood that process either, but where they take 92 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: into account the contract, they take into account the playing time, 93 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: and they take into account, you know, any accomplishments the 94 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: player had. Nine times out of nine, it really seems 95 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: like it is ultimately the contract that Besides this, and 96 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: as we'll probably talk about a little bit more in 97 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: the second segment, the fact that you really had some 98 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: of these other teams that had guys at average contracts 99 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: above ten million dollars a year is the reason why 100 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,119 Speaker 1: the Packers ended up not getting a third rounder, which 101 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: historically has been I mean that that's probably is important 102 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: as a compensatory pick gets because you're still picking in 103 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: those first two days. So you've seen the draft formula 104 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: chart and how important those middle round picks can be 105 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: and how valuable they can be. Uh, this, as you 106 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: said early on my for Brian goodacu instant opportunity. Now 107 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: for him to go into this draft with that much 108 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: ammunition is going to really behoove him in the in 109 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: the long run. Yeah, I mean, I look at this 110 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: as you know, when you get say an extra fourth 111 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: round pick here like the Packers have, you know, you 112 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: mentioned get Martinez and Lowry being back to back compensatory 113 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: picks in the fourth round. When you have multiple picks 114 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: in the middle rounds like that, that's where you know 115 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: you and you might use your regular fourth round pick 116 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: on David baktr and you get a hit right there. 117 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: But but the flip side of it is you might 118 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: use your regular fourth round pick on a guy who 119 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: doesn't work out, but then that later fourth round pick 120 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: in the in the compensatory selections becomes the guy that 121 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 1: does work out. You probably had both of those guys 122 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: rated about the same, but because you had the two 123 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: picks within a span of fifteen or twenty there. Within 124 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: the fourth round, you've got a great chance to hit on. 125 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: The perfect example this is probably the two thousand twelve 126 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: draft with Mike Daniels. If you go back to that year, Mike, 127 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: the player that everybody thought was gonna be the real 128 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: difference maker as far as the defensive line concern was 129 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: drill Worthy. In no disrespect to drill Worthy, it just 130 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: didn't work out for him in Green Bay as a 131 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: second round pick, but the Packers did have that opportunity 132 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: to go back. They did have that extra pick in 133 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: the fourth round. Mike Daniels comes in a lot less heralded. 134 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: I mean, a guy that was a game day scratch 135 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: I think in the week two of the season, just 136 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: didn't have that opportunity coming in with an injury as well, 137 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: shoulder surgery and everything at the end of his college career, 138 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: catches fire at the end of the season as six 139 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: and a half SAX and next season and then he's 140 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: on his way from there. It's one small part of 141 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: the puzzle, but it's one that you definitely can't overlook 142 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, well, we need to talk a little 143 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: bit more about this whole formula and how they figured 144 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: this out. We'll get to that after the breakback with 145 00:06:51,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: more on Packers Unscripted. Right after this, Welcome back to 146 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair. Wes Hodkowits in 147 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: that one. Okay, Wes this whole compensatory pick formula and 148 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: how the league figures this stuff out. A lot of 149 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: projections out there. You can find websites that are, you know, 150 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: going to try to predict um who's going to get 151 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: what compensatory picks and what round. The general consensus seemed 152 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: to be that the Packers were going to get a 153 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: third round pick because of t J. Lang, who had 154 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: signed a contract for around nine million a year and 155 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: end up making a Pro Bowl and all that. But 156 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: the Packers didn't get a third round pick. There are 157 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: only four teams that were awarded a compensatory at the 158 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: end of the third round, and then the Packers got 159 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: the first compensatory at the top of the fourth round, 160 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: which tells you I would think, if I'm understanding this correctly, 161 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,559 Speaker 1: that they were really really close to having that fourth 162 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: round compens story pick actually be thirty two slots higher 163 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: and possibly be at the end of the third round instead, 164 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: it didn't work out that way. Explain maybe how you 165 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: think this fell and why it fell the way it did. Well, 166 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: here's the part of the thing that I'm not going 167 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: to be able to explain, because the NFL Management Council 168 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: is ultimately the one that decides on these matters. Factoring 169 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: in what we talked about in the last segment, salary 170 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: average per year, you know how much the player played, 171 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: and then also any accolades that player may have had. 172 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: If this would have been two thousand seventeen, the Green 173 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: Bay Packers would have been well in the clear to 174 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 1: get a third round pick for t J. Lang Eleven 175 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: compensed story picks in the third round last year. I'm 176 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: not it is not privy to me. I don't understand 177 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: how they decide the line of demarcation there in terms 178 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: of where they break. They award thirty two. They award 179 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: thirty two compensed story picks, but they can be spread 180 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: out anywhere from the end of the third through the 181 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: end of the second. So this year it's only four 182 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: in the third round I think, or five whatever it 183 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: ended up being last year eleven, so the Packers would 184 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: have comfortably been in that situation. I think would have 185 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: end up having the hundred and first overall pick. It's 186 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: not the way it worked out though, So for the 187 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: Packers perspective, now they take into account you can only 188 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: have a max of four compensatory picks. Packers lost seven 189 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: guys that can conceivably count towards the formula, but you 190 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: can't get more than four. So how yes, exactly, um, so, 191 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: however you want to figure that out, I'm not really 192 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: sure where they you know, how they determine what the 193 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: value is or how much in Eddie Lacy, you know, 194 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: contract pushes up a particular round, whatever the case may be. 195 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: The one thing that probably does hurt for the Packers 196 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: is that if that sixth rounder could have became a 197 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: fifth rounder, because again they'll be the first team picking 198 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: from the compensatory process in the sixth round. If that's 199 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: becomes a fifth rounder, it would be hard to imagine 200 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: the Packers picking three guys within you know, a couple 201 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: of picks of each other in the fifth round. But 202 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: now that you can leverage that in a trade, that 203 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: could potentially be bait to move up. And we know 204 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: the difference and value of all those picks per round. 205 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: So uh, I don't want to say obviously the Packers 206 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: you know, ended up on the short end of the 207 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: stick here, but to some extent, it does feel like that, 208 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: considering the strength and how productive that that class of 209 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: free agents was, that they lost. Yeah, and as you said, 210 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: the compensatory pick in the sixth round was the first 211 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: one that was awarded for the end of the sixth rounds, 212 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: so that one was also very close to to to 213 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: jumping up thirty two spots, um, you know, and uh, 214 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: and the Packers would would have a shot earlier at 215 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: another player. But it seems like when you just look 216 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: at the numbers, and you and I were only looking 217 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: at him briefly, but it would seem like where the 218 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: NFL drew the line this year for the third rounders, 219 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: for those top compensatory picks, it was guys that signed 220 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: contracts that average ten million a year more and then 221 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: t J. Lange was just below that ten million a 222 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: year mark. And even though he made the Pro Bowl 223 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: and whatnot, um, he his essentially compensation ended up being 224 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: the top pick of the of the fourth round. It 225 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: is strange though to me that you'd have eleven third 226 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: round compensatories one year and then only four in the 227 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: third round the following year. It just I've said this 228 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: in our Insider Inbox column. I've kind of given up 229 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: trying to guess it and trying to figure out I 230 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: just kind of sit back and wait and see what 231 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: the Packers get. At the end of the day, the 232 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: Packers got four picks. They have twelve overall in the draft, 233 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: the seven plus the Laurenti McCray seventh rounder from a 234 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and then the four compensatories. Twelve picks. 235 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: That's a lot to work with. Let the records show. 236 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever been right in terms of 237 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: projecting this, and there are some websites I think Football 238 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: Outsiders is one of them that do a really good 239 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: job of it. But again they're also basing because that's 240 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: one of the one of the big projectors this year 241 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: that thought the Packers were going to get a third 242 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: rounder for TJ. Lang, Taking too account how many third 243 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: rounders were divvied out a year ago, I think the 244 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: closest I'd probably have been is guessing fourth rounders for 245 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Truman Williams in Devon House. But there were other years 246 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: where I thought the Packers were gonna get much more. 247 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: You look at Casey Hayward end up having a Pro 248 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: Bowl season. His contract though, didn't really allow that to 249 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: jump past a fifth rounder. Um. So it's things like 250 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: that that you have to take into account. As I said, 251 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: it is kind of a mystery in terms of how 252 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: they go about figuring these things out. What we do 253 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: know though, at this point in time, the Packers with 254 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: those four picks will have a lot of leverage for 255 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: Brian Goodikut's in this upcoming draft. And I want to 256 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about just where the Packers 257 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: are positioned and how how the new GM might be 258 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: able to use that. We'll talk about that after the 259 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: breakback with more and Packers Unscripted right after this, Welcome 260 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford. Here, West, Hodko, It's 261 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: over there, okay, West. So the Packers have twelve picks 262 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: in this upcoming draft. A lot of focus obviously will 263 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: be on the first round pick because the Packers are 264 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: picking four in the first round that they have not 265 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: had a pick this high in the first round since 266 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: two thousand nine, when b J Rodgi was drafted with 267 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: the number nine overall pick. This is a very interesting 268 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: position for a brand new general manager to be in. 269 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: The Packers have not been in this in this position 270 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: for a long time, to get a player in the 271 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: top half of the first round. Just your thoughts on 272 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: kind of how where the Packers are situated here and 273 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: how this might play out. So many parallels, Mike, between 274 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: two thousand eight going into two thousand nine and now 275 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: the Packers going into two thousand eighteen, you were obviously 276 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: covering the team back then. The Packers coming off a 277 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: disappointing year defensively, Mike McCarthy overhauls the defensive coaching staff 278 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: and it begins with Dom Kaper's coming in and installing 279 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: the three four defense. Ted Thompson right on board with 280 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: everything gets Mike McCarthy gets Don Kapers the nose tackle 281 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: they needed at the ninth overall pick end up setting 282 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: up one of the better run defensive stretches the Packers 283 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: have had in recent memory with him, Ryan Pickett and 284 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: the other players there, and then also Ted Thompson the 285 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: only time he did it, trading back into the first 286 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: round to take Clay Matthews. The Packers get their pass rusher, 287 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: a defensive player of the Year, candidate right off the 288 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: bad for Green Bay obviously now becomes a six time 289 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl linebacker. There are a lot of parallels now 290 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: with Mike Petton coming in here. Now, we'll have to 291 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: see which direction they go with this pick. Packers haven't 292 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: taken an offensive player in some time. Could this be 293 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: a year to do it. We'll have to see. But 294 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: to be picking four overall, and I thought Cliff Crystal 295 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: on our website did a wonderful job of really explaining 296 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: the challenges that Ted Thompson had. When you really go 297 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: back and look at it. When you're picking outside of 298 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: the top fifteen, and I believe it was eleven of 299 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: thirteen drafts, that's difficult to do the bulls eye. You're 300 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: you're stepping farther and farther back, so trying to hit 301 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: that becomes significantly more difficult. Brian Goodaquins set it right 302 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: from the day that he stepped up as in his 303 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: introductory press conference as the new GM, this is an 304 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: opportunity and unfortunate opportunity, but it is an opportunity to 305 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: re energize the team and find some more prospects higher 306 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: in the draft rather than having to project out you know, 307 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: further down the line. Yeah, and you and I had 308 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: talked about this last year on a couple of our 309 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: road trips going to cover the team. When you looked 310 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: at last year's Green Bay Packers defense and all the 311 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: all of the players who were involved, the highest draft 312 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: pick the Packers had on the field on defense at 313 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: any time last year was the twenty feet overall pick, 314 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: and that was ha Ha Clinton Dicks from two thousand 315 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: and fourteen. Obviously, going back a couple of years, Julius Peppers, 316 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, had been a very high draft pick when 317 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: he was selected, and uh, you go back a couple 318 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: more years and b J. Rogie was obviously on the 319 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: team this last year. You look, you look at when 320 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: when the highest guy picked out of anybody who's playing 321 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: defense for you is at twenty one overall, that's going 322 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: to catch up with you at some point. That's just 323 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: the way this league is. The league is. The league 324 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: is built for parody. It's built for the the inverse 325 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: draft order, as as we talked about. So this is 326 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: a this is a huge opportunity for the Packers. Now 327 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: that being said, doesn't mean they're going to pick defense 328 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: at at number fourteen overall. Certainly, no, no guarantee in 329 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: that regard, but um, but it's going to make you know, 330 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: go everything going on with the combine and everything leading 331 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: up to the draft, there isn't there isn't going to 332 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: be quite as much uncertainty necessarily about who's going to 333 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: be there. There's still going to be some when you're 334 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: at fourteen, but as opposed to being at twenty five 335 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: or twenty eight or something like that, where you just 336 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: have no idea who might be on the board at 337 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: that point, being at fourteen, the packers will have a 338 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: little bit better idea of who they might have to 339 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: choose from at that spot. Assuming that that Goodkins decides 340 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: to stay there, Yes, and it is good Coins. You know, 341 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: it's his job to move the chess pieces how he wants. 342 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: If it was me in that role, though, I'd be 343 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: really tempted to stay there because this is an opportunity 344 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: that you haven't had to pick that high to have 345 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: a chance to find a real difference maker. Because you know, Mike, 346 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: there's twenty two positions on the starting on the field 347 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: at any given time, there's only fourteen picks, thirteen guys 348 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: ahead of you. It's a really good chance to potentially 349 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: get maybe the best player at their position, and as 350 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: far as a prospect, I think that's really enticing. One 351 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: thing that did kind of frustrate me at times with 352 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: Insider Inbox and I tried to, you know, VI as 353 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: mature and professional about as possible, is a lot of 354 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: people saying this pastoral. Why don't the Packers have a 355 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: defense like Jacksonville, Why don't they have Jalen Ramsey in 356 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: their secondary? Well two reasons for that. Jacksonville for years 357 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: was significantly under the cap, which allowed them to sign 358 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: Clays Campbell, which allowed them to sign Blak Jackson, and 359 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: then also due to some of their losing seasons, were 360 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: able to be third, fourth, fifth overall to get a 361 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. When you're picking higher, it's a lot easier 362 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: to find those difference makers. Derek Barnett this past year 363 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: of Philadelphia Eagles seven and nine, a year ago Super 364 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: Bowl champions now makes one of the biggest plays of 365 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: the game and recovering that fumble off the one hop 366 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: Eagles win the Super Bowl four pick overall, We'll see 367 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: what happens with this year's Yeah, you definitely it's you 368 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: definitely don't want to miss on it, that's for sure. 369 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: And as you said, this goes back to, you know, 370 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: the transition with the coaching staff. Mike Petton coming in, 371 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: he's going to be giving Mike McCarthy and Brian Goudakin 372 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: some ideas as to as to what he's looking for now. 373 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: If that player is there, maybe they take him. But 374 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: there's also you know, as we'll talk about, leading up 375 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: to the draft, you start thinking about wide receiver and 376 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: tight end and offensive tackle and those types of things 377 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: that you know positions you can never seem to have 378 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: enough guys. So that's why, you know, you always focus 379 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: on that, you know that that best player available mentality, 380 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: because you don't want to leave that best player for 381 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: somebody else to pick just because you're looking to fill 382 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: a slote in whatever the Packers do with that fourteenth 383 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: overall pick, it's good to keep in mind they'll also 384 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: have the fourteenth pick in the second round as well. Yeah, 385 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: no doubt with that. West. Let's take care of a 386 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: little sponsored business. Today is a perfect day to fill 387 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: up with some new Campbell's Chunky Max soup. 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You mentioned 396 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: the Packers having obviously the fourteenth pick in the second 397 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: round as well. You look at that that's actually going 398 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: to be number forty five overall. Just for comparison's sake, 399 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: Jason Spriggs, the Packers drafted him in the second round 400 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: at overall, and Ted Thompson had to trade up to 401 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: get to that spot at overall. The Packers are going 402 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: to have the pick in the second round, and that's 403 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: a spot they own. They don't have to necessarily give 404 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: up another pick to get that. So again, just where 405 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: your position here. This is a this is a unique 406 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: and different opportunity for green Bay. But with that, I 407 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: also want to follow up. You were talking in the 408 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: last segment about the Jacksonville Jaguars in their defense. They 409 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: made some news over this past weekend on the offensive 410 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: side because they signed their quarterback, quarterback Blake Bortles, to 411 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: a a contract extension. A lot of people wondering just 412 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: what Jacksonville was going to do at the quarterback position. 413 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on their decision here? I think 414 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: it was smart because if you look at exactly the 415 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: numbers on this contract, he was going to be getting 416 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: the fifth year option up. They already had done that 417 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: a year ago, so he had one more year left 418 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: and it was going to be a pretty significant cap 419 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: number for them based on where he was picked third 420 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: overall the number of seasons ago. So by doing the extension, 421 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: not only does it lower the cap number for this year, 422 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: but it really didn't guaranteed wise. I think it only 423 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: increased the guarantees by like six or seven million, because 424 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: that fifth year option is fully guaranteed for for skill 425 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: and injury. So this is just a really interesting spot 426 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: now for the Jaguars because now they have some time 427 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: to figure out if Bortles is the man is going 428 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: to be the guy that leads their franchise going forward. 429 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: And it also is a really good reminder again of 430 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: what you can do when you have a year or 431 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: two left on a contract to leverage it, as opposed 432 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: to what happened with Jimmy Garoppolo and what in a 433 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: couple of weeks will happen with Kirk Cousins. Well, there 434 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: is no room to leverage it, and you're gonna have 435 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: to have all that money up front. Yeah. Well, and 436 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: we've seen what happened with Kirk Cousins. He ended up 437 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: not only getting the franchise tag because his contract had expired, 438 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: but then they still didn't work out a long term deal, 439 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: and then they franchise tagged him again. And now Washington 440 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: got in the position where franchise tagging him a third 441 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: time financially it's prohibitive. So they had to make a move, 442 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: and they made the move to get Alex Smith. And 443 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: now Kirk Cousins is is the top guy out there 444 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: on the free agent market at quarterback. It is, and 445 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: Alex Smith I think set a record for the mono 446 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: guaranteed money in a contract as well. So it just 447 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: tells you, Mike, the more you kick a can down 448 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: the road, what the ramifications of that are. But hey, 449 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: good for Kirk Cousins. He's a fourth round pick and 450 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: now he's gonna get paid. Yeah, look at that. But 451 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: with that, we will call it a wrap on this 452 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 453 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team on Packers dot com on Twitter, 454 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: He's at west Hod, I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers 455 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: for the team account. Thanks for tuning, and everybody, we'll 456 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: see you next time. M hm.