Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, some very big news that we can share
Speaker 1: with all of you. Crystal, if you want to go
Speaker 1: and put it up there on the screen, we'll read
Speaker 1: directly from Donald J. Trump's truth social quote. We have
Speaker 1: completed our very successful attack on the three nuclear sites
Speaker 1: in Iran, including for Doau, Natanz, and Esfahan. All planes
Speaker 1: are now outside of Iranian airspace. A full payload of
Speaker 1: bombs was dropped on the primary site for DOE. All
Speaker 1: planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our
Speaker 1: great American warriors. There is not another military in the
Speaker 1: world that could have done this. Now is the time
Speaker 1: for peace. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Speaker 1: We've also been informed by President Trump. We're recording this
Speaker 1: roughly around eight thirty pm Eastern time. President Trump will
Speaker 1: be giving an address to the nation at ten PM
Speaker 1: at the White House regarding our successful military operation in Iran.
Speaker 2: Quote.
Speaker 1: This is a historic moment for the United States of America, Israel,
Speaker 1: and the world. Iran must now agree to end this war.
Speaker 1: So it happened, and yeah, I mean turns out that
Speaker 1: the two weeks was actually a ruse, basically to get
Speaker 1: all of the military equipment in place. It does appear, guys,
Speaker 1: that this was done with the B two bombers, the
Speaker 1: stealth B two bombers capable of dropping these these massive
Speaker 1: ordnance penetrators crystal. If do we want to put up
Speaker 1: some images, if we can, these were uh these are
Speaker 1: by the way, these are being dispersed right now by
Speaker 1: the Israeli military. Please keep that in mind. But they do,
Speaker 1: at the very least for the moment.
Speaker 3: That we're this account actually took those images down.
Speaker 2: I always have to be.
Speaker 1: Careful, so we don't yet know what the images that
Speaker 1: have come out of there. By the way, we don't
Speaker 1: actually know a lot even about the uh, the attack itself.
Speaker 1: Trump uh, you know, is expected to perhaps announce details.
Speaker 1: But you know, part of the reason I think that
Speaker 1: we're all doing this right now is this is it,
Speaker 1: you know, the dice casts like it's where we're at
Speaker 1: war with Iran and there's really just no getting around
Speaker 1: that very simple statement at this.
Speaker 4: So we have not declared war on Iran, and we
Speaker 4: are waiting for the White House to even muster the
Speaker 4: legal justification, though if it exists, if they point to anything,
Speaker 4: it will be dubious at the very very best.
Speaker 1: I'm really glad you highlighted that, because that's something that
Speaker 1: I think we should all really spend a lot of
Speaker 1: time on. I mean, this is one of the most
Speaker 1: extraordinary and aggressive, independent, unilateral actions launched by a president
Speaker 1: of the United States ever, and I'm just I'm struck
Speaker 1: by that. I'm struck by you, in my opinion, just
Speaker 1: such a foolhardy decision given I mean, the consequences that
Speaker 1: are unfortunately very likely to come. We have thousands and
Speaker 1: thousands of US service members, you know, the Straits of
Speaker 1: War moves is at risk. We have a naval base
Speaker 1: in Bahrain, we have air bases and US military bases
Speaker 1: in Iraq. And yeah, I mean, I spent my whole
Speaker 1: career and I've met so many people who've suffered in
Speaker 1: the global War on Terror, and it's really just terrifying,
Speaker 1: you know, to think that we're right back and it's
Speaker 1: totally unnecessary.
Speaker 3: And let me just explain some of how this went down,
Speaker 3: you know, just tracking from the beginning. So first we
Speaker 3: had the revelation that Israel had bombed a bunch of
Speaker 3: sites in Iran. The initial reaction from the Trump administration
Speaker 3: from Secretary of State Mark Rubio was to feign effectively
Speaker 3: surprise and say, oh, well, this was a completely unilateral action.
Speaker 3: Very shortly thereafter, it became clear from Trump himself that
Speaker 3: he was claiming credit for it, and they put out
Speaker 3: to the press that actually all of their recent attempts
Speaker 3: at diplomacy and the claim that they were going forward
Speaker 3: with this next round of nuclear diplomacy talks, that this
Speaker 3: was actually a ruse to create an ability for this
Speaker 3: Israeli surprise attack. Since then, we've had this whole will
Speaker 3: they or won't they? Very reality show esque, you know,
Speaker 3: theater put on from Trump where he's seeking the advice
Speaker 3: from this one. Different things are being leaked to the
Speaker 3: press and all sorts of misinformation, and really the propaganda
Speaker 3: effort kicks into full effect. Suddenly. Even though our Director
Speaker 3: of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard at the end of March
Speaker 3: told us the Iranians are not close to a nuclear weapon,
Speaker 3: they are not pursuing a nuclear weapon, the IAEA says
Speaker 3: the same thing, we have no evidence that the Iranians
Speaker 3: are pursuing a nuclear weapon. But suddenly Trump and Fox
Speaker 3: News and CNN to a great extent as well, suddenly
Speaker 3: it's Iran is on the break of a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 3: This is taken as effectively a fact, very wmd Iraq war.
Speaker 3: The vibes are, you know, off the charts, and so
Speaker 3: you get this drum beat going. And the question that he,
Speaker 3: the President of the United States, is asking the American
Speaker 3: people isn't hey, do you want a regime change, which,
Speaker 3: based on the reporting, is what we have actually greenlit.
Speaker 3: And the logic you know that we're headed on already.
Speaker 3: I mean even that all the strikes and tyran, there
Speaker 3: weren't nuclear facilities in Tehran, So what are we doing there?
Speaker 3: The question that's being asked the American people from the
Speaker 3: present isn't hey, do you want to get involved in
Speaker 3: another idiotic, disastrous, like morally atrocious, illegal regime change war.
Speaker 3: It's Aron's about to have a nuke. We can't. We
Speaker 3: can't let them have a nuke. And from there the
Speaker 3: logic flows to this moment when we directly engage. But
Speaker 3: I don't want anyone to be fooled by the idea
Speaker 3: that we weren't already involved, that this operation hadn't already
Speaker 3: been greenlit. We know from Reuter's, we know from Ken
Speaker 3: Klippenstein that the regime change operation had already been greenlit
Speaker 3: by Trump. And I think a lot of the machinations
Speaker 3: that we've seen going back and forth over this ensuing
Speaker 3: time period has been mostly for show. And you know
Speaker 3: this was this was the intention effectively all along.
Speaker 5: And Christal, just to add to that point real quickly,
Speaker 5: you said that, you know, as Tulsea Gabert Gabartt said
Speaker 5: that the nuclear program was not up and running, what
Speaker 5: she also so said is that it had not been
Speaker 5: running since two thousand and three. Right, come any shut
Speaker 5: it down in two thousand and three. That's that's the
Speaker 5: intelligence assessment that it's that it has been dormant for
Speaker 5: more than twenty years, and the intelligence community believed that
Speaker 5: it that it remained dormant. I think there's one piece
Speaker 5: of news that I wanted to put up here that
Speaker 5: emerge today which is relevant to this, which is on
Speaker 5: Watch Media. Really really impressive. They have a ton of
Speaker 5: like sources, like very close to like senior leaders in Iran.
Speaker 5: They reported today that the Supreme Leader assembled what's called
Speaker 5: the as you see it here, the Assembly of Experts.
Speaker 5: This is the in Iran's constitution. This is like how
Speaker 5: they and I'll scroll this ups if anybody wants to
Speaker 5: pause and like read this, like this is how they
Speaker 5: they determine their success or. They've got this little eighty
Speaker 5: eight member clerical council. They sit down, they come up
Speaker 5: with candidates that are going to replace the Supreme and
Speaker 5: then they pick one and that becomes the new Supreme leader.
Speaker 5: So comm Ani is saying here like okay, this this
Speaker 5: might be it for me, Like I'm going to take
Speaker 5: Israel in the United States at their word. You know,
Speaker 5: after this hospital was hit yesterday the day before Israeli
Speaker 5: Israeli President Herzog was saying, like, okay, Comani cannot live
Speaker 5: any longer. And there have been all of these reports
Speaker 5: that Kamani is going to be killed by the Israelis,
Speaker 5: but Trump has been holding him back. We don't know
Speaker 5: whether or not we can believe any of this because
Speaker 5: you know, we're in the fog of like intentional disinformation
Speaker 5: in order to gain advantage in the war. What what
Speaker 5: Commani is saying there, And he's been under pressure for
Speaker 5: years now because he's in the eighties. It's like, guys,
Speaker 5: like you need to come up with a successor. But
Speaker 5: he'd been put he'd been pushing off this this creation
Speaker 5: of a successor. So now today he's announced, all right,
Speaker 5: we're going to do a successor.
Speaker 3: What does that?
Speaker 5: What does that mean? You can kill him, you can
Speaker 5: bomb the nuclear sites. What What he's trying to signal
Speaker 5: is that the Iranian state is going to continue from Israel.
Speaker 5: You hear them saying, we need to get rid of
Speaker 5: this threat to us. We need to be done with this.
Speaker 5: It's like be done with it, how like it's a thing.
Speaker 5: It exists, it's going to it exists today. You can
Speaker 5: vombit all night long. It will exist tomorrow and you
Speaker 5: can kill Kameani and they'll have somebody else.
Speaker 2: Emily.
Speaker 1: Sorry, just before you speak, Crystal, could you put Ken
Speaker 1: Clippenstein's feed up. He has a report just out from
Speaker 1: a single minute ago, which is very important because there's
Speaker 1: two things that we all have to focus on here
Speaker 1: right now, regime change and potential escalation and retaliation by
Speaker 1: both the Iranians, and then escalation from the United States.
Speaker 1: So I'll read here from Ken quote the US military
Speaker 1: is now briefing troops that would strike on Iran quote
Speaker 1: will likely result in counter strikes on US basis and
Speaker 1: facilities in the Middle East, and likely activate Iran and
Speaker 1: other foreign terrorist organization cells abroad, including the US, to
Speaker 1: conduct strikes against US persons and facilities, according to a
Speaker 1: briefing I have obtained, so obviously Ken a great friend
Speaker 1: of the show.
Speaker 2: With great reporting there.
Speaker 1: But that is the nightmare, Cyril, and that is why
Speaker 1: I'm so afraid that there is no stepping off this
Speaker 1: ladder now that Donald Trump has again unilaterally put us on.
Speaker 1: You know, he says peace. You know, you to bomb
Speaker 1: a country and pay for prey for peace. As Ryan
Speaker 1: just highlighted, you know, the Iranian state is arguably I mean,
Speaker 1: at this point, something so Abamari said on our show
Speaker 1: that I have really been thinking about is that in
Speaker 1: a way, you know, the Iranians were so infiltrated by
Speaker 1: Mosad that initially it was a disaster and it was
Speaker 1: a total humiliation. But they've regrouped to a point where
Speaker 1: they've been able to militarily continue their activity against Israel,
Speaker 1: at least with some limited amount of success, to the
Speaker 1: point where the Israel owned reporters are saying, this place
Speaker 1: looks like Gaza. So that's there still, you know, military capability,
Speaker 1: we have to look to the straits of ourmus the
Speaker 1: barrel boyl price could go to hundred dollars for barrel.
Speaker 2: All of our US.
Speaker 1: Facilities in Iraq and in Syria. I mean, there's so
Speaker 1: many Iranian proxy groups all over the country of Iraq.
Speaker 1: The government of Iraq, by the way, will not be
Speaker 1: supporting us very much. They protested our own action just
Speaker 1: today at the United Nations, and the Gulf Arab States
Speaker 1: also are not supportive of this. So the logistics operation
Speaker 1: is a total nightmare. If this thing gets worse, two
Speaker 1: carrier strike groups in the region, so we have to
Speaker 1: highlight that.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Emily.
Speaker 4: Sorry, no, I was actually going to ask you where
Speaker 4: we should be looking at retaliatory action.
Speaker 1: Potentially, Iraq is a big one. Iraq is a really
Speaker 1: big one because Iraq is actually the place where our
Speaker 1: forces are probably the least protected and are very vulnerable,
Speaker 1: possibly to getting rushed by like those ground cut up
Speaker 1: Hasbola folks who have rockets, who for now have not
Speaker 1: had the straits of our moves.
Speaker 2: Is the biggest one.
Speaker 1: Also, don't forget about the who Thies, which you know,
Speaker 1: despite bombing the shit out of them for what like
Speaker 1: ten twelve years right now or something.
Speaker 5: As talking let me put this up on Let me
Speaker 5: put this up on the screen. Yeah, this is this
Speaker 5: is your point, Secretary General of Al Neu Java Iraqs. Uh,
Speaker 5: what you know? The Iraq is filled with these Iranian
Speaker 5: backed militia groups. One of the biggest ones said, you
Speaker 5: bomb them. Uh, you know, we're going to target Americans,
Speaker 5: not just military but also civilian. And there are thousands
Speaker 5: and thousands of Americans you know, running around.
Speaker 1: Not to mention as a story that Crystal and I
Speaker 1: highlighted in our show, do you know how many Americans
Speaker 1: are trapped inside of Israel right now? Hundreds of thousands.
Speaker 1: There is no there are no evacuation flights. The entire
Speaker 1: airspace is closed, so we could possibly see something there.
Speaker 2: Who knows what the Iranians.
Speaker 5: We have what ten thousand service members and Cutter, which
Speaker 5: Cutter has been, you know, engaging in direct diplomacy with
Speaker 5: Iran saying like, look, we're not involved with this, please
Speaker 5: don't hit us. And Saudi and the UE have been
Speaker 5: saying the same thing, like like we're sorry that we
Speaker 5: heard this. The United States like we're not doing this,
Speaker 5: like please do not retaliate against us.
Speaker 3: Well and twice I think it really bears emphasizing twice,
Speaker 3: now we used the pretext of supposed diplomatic negotiations as
Speaker 3: a ruse. Yes, you know, I mean, how serious can
Speaker 3: you be about negotiations? Actually, Tim Dillon was making this
Speaker 3: joke when you're killing the people you're negotiating with, Like,
Speaker 3: is that a serious You're serious about diplomacy when you're
Speaker 3: murdering the people that you're supposed to be dealing with.
Speaker 3: So now twice over the course of just weeks, we've
Speaker 3: used pretend diplomacy to run cover for bombing campaigns. And
Speaker 3: you know, I so not only with you know, Iran
Speaker 3: and the futures. Now, I'm sure Trump when he comes
Speaker 3: out tonight, he's going to say here's a few things.
Speaker 3: I predict he's going to say. First, he's going to say,
Speaker 3: we tried. You know that, we tried. We were at
Speaker 3: the table with them, they just were ops and they
Speaker 3: wouldn't come around. We tried again, they rejected us again.
Speaker 3: And he's probably he may even say, hey, now come
Speaker 3: to the table. Now, come now, let's come to a deal.
Speaker 3: Who in their right mind you're threatening right now to
Speaker 3: kill their leader? You're you actually, if you're a rod,
Speaker 3: you're thinking now we should have had a bomb long
Speaker 3: ago to prevent exactly what's unfolding right now. So Soccer,
Speaker 3: you were pointing out the polymarket odds of a rod
Speaker 3: developing a nuclear weapon have actually gone up, because that
Speaker 3: is the actual logic that we've created. And I want
Speaker 3: to emphasize this because this is so important in terms
Speaker 3: of thinking about where we're going to go next, because
Speaker 3: now what the Hawks are going to say is, you
Speaker 3: can see the polymarket odds there. Now what the Hawks
Speaker 3: are going to say is, well, maybe we took out
Speaker 3: for dough or maybe we degraded for doe, but they
Speaker 3: still have these capabilities and by the way, they can
Speaker 3: still build that, and we still have this evil regime
Speaker 3: in place, and as long as they're in place, we
Speaker 3: can't feel safe that they're not going to build a
Speaker 3: nuclear weapon. And then okay, so what do you do? Then? Oh, well,
Speaker 3: I guess we just have to take this regime out
Speaker 3: and let democracy flourish and you know, install the the
Speaker 3: Shaw's fail Sun or whatever the bullshit is gonna be.
Speaker 3: But that's that's the way this logic goes. And listen,
Speaker 3: bib Nan Yaho knows that, right, But I also I
Speaker 3: am so reluctant in a sense to bring him into
Speaker 3: this because there's all this language. Oh we got dragged
Speaker 3: into Ward. Trump's getting tricked at bull shit. Yes, this
Speaker 3: man promised to bomb ran on the campaign trail multiple times.
Speaker 3: You can go look at the White House feed. They
Speaker 3: put on a very nice compilation of all the times
Speaker 3: that he said that Iran can't have a nuke and
Speaker 3: he specifically said that we should be bombing that, you know,
Speaker 3: their nuclear facilities should be bombed, multiple times on the
Speaker 3: campaign trail. Okay, Joe Biden million issues with him. According
Speaker 3: to the reporting, the Israeli's been pushing this regime chain
Speaker 3: operation for years at this point, and the Biden administration said, no,
Speaker 3: this would be too catastrophic. This is a bad idea. No, no, no.
Speaker 3: From what we can tell, Trump did the same for
Speaker 3: a while. You know, this is not a good idea.
Speaker 3: I can see how this would go poorly. I can
Speaker 3: see how this would, you know, get us involved all
Speaker 3: sorts of things we don't necessarily want to be involved with,
Speaker 3: and we've got other priorities, et cetera. And then he
Speaker 3: gets to a point and he decides, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: bored with these negotiations, let's just bomb them. Does not
Speaker 3: seem quick? Doesn't that seem easy? And now here we
Speaker 3: are on this chain of escalation that listen, maybe we'll
Speaker 3: be wrong. Maybe they'll just bomb four doh and that'll
Speaker 3: be it, and there'll be no retaliation, there'll be no fallout,
Speaker 3: we won't get pulled even further. And maybe that'll be it.
Speaker 3: But it is very hard to see how that is
Speaker 3: what plays out here alto.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bet I think I've said this before, I'll
Speaker 1: just reiterate it. The best case show on Ario right
Speaker 1: now is Libya. That is the best case. The best
Speaker 1: case is we bomb, we came, we saw, we bombed,
Speaker 1: and we left right and oh.
Speaker 5: Ten years, ten to fifteen years of kaots erupted into.
Speaker 1: A fifteen years civil But then of course beautiful isocracy
Speaker 1: and the democracy, thriving democracy that we have right now.
Speaker 1: I also, I think Crystal is so correct like Israel,
Speaker 1: Israel is both the primary and a secondary actor, but
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like they are the
Speaker 1: secondary actor now, especially with Donald Trump. One thing I
Speaker 1: do especially want to highlight on the regime change front
Speaker 1: is I have been watching this raise Apolovy stuff very closely,
Speaker 1: which I know it sounds crazy, but we talked.
Speaker 2: About it here before.
Speaker 1: Fox News is referring to this guy as his Royal
Speaker 1: Highness Crystal if you want. My latest tweet is specifically
Speaker 1: highlighting a Israeli report that came out just three hours ago.
Speaker 1: This is from Wynette News inside of Israel. This is
Speaker 1: Emily Strader quote multiple sources. There are discussions ongoing with
Speaker 1: the United States and the Crown Prince rais Apolovy for
Speaker 1: the day after the Islamic regime fails. So as you
Speaker 1: can see, that is a very that look. I mean,
Speaker 1: I am forced at this point to take these seriously.
Speaker 1: I also would highlight Polavi's latest tweet himself, he says.
Speaker 1: Sources insiety Iran say that regime's command and control structures
Speaker 1: are collapsing at a rapid pace. Meanwhile, the international community
Speaker 1: is beginning to realize the Islamic Republican has no future.
Speaker 1: Our discussions about a post Islamic Republic Iran have begun.
Speaker 1: We have our Auchmchaloby and I'll be honest, Achmedchalaby was
Speaker 1: way more legitimate as legitimate as he was.
Speaker 6: Fail Sun.
Speaker 3: And that's actually one of the things Emily I was
Speaker 3: thinking about today is like I am like, I am
Speaker 3: actually in disbelief as negative of an opinion as I
Speaker 3: have of Donald Trump, I am actually in disbelief that
Speaker 3: we're doing this again. Like and it's so much dumber
Speaker 3: because at least they a rock war. They bothered to
Speaker 3: like have a propaganda show for us. They bothered, you know,
Speaker 3: and we were all, you know after nine to eleven,
Speaker 3: like we were galvanized. We wanted to do something. They
Speaker 3: put on the propaganda show and they had colon Palaty,
Speaker 3: They did the whole thing. And this like we have
Speaker 3: I really want people to think about this. We have
Speaker 3: not been offered one shred of intelligence that suggests Iran
Speaker 3: was close to or developing a nuclear weapon. Our own
Speaker 3: intelligence community says they're not, the IAEA says they're not,
Speaker 3: and all Trump says is well, I don't care what
Speaker 3: Tulsea Gabbart said, trust me, that's basically it. And Saber,
Speaker 3: I know you were reporting that none of the in
Speaker 3: new quote unquote new intelligence comes from our own intelligence community.
Speaker 3: We're trusting the word of the Israelis. How many decades
Speaker 3: have they been saying Iran is the day or a
Speaker 3: week or a month or a year whatever away from
Speaker 3: a bomb, like I can the stupidity, and how like
Speaker 3: they think we are so stupid? And when I see
Speaker 3: the paganda and Fox News is the absolute worst. They're
Speaker 3: the ones out there calling the Shaw fail Sun his
Speaker 3: royal highness and ready to put him right on the throne.
Speaker 3: CNN is egregious. The little bit I watch of MSNBC
Speaker 3: was slightly more tolerable. I'll say, if you're going to
Speaker 3: grade them in terms of rank just because they're you know,
Speaker 3: they're negatively polarized against Trump. But I can't believe how
Speaker 3: easy it is to whip these well. I can, sadly
Speaker 3: I can, but it's astonishing to see how quickly you
Speaker 3: can whip these places up into total manufacturing consent propaganda shops,
Speaker 3: regurgitating whatever it is that their administration wants them to
Speaker 3: framing it in the way they want it to be framed.
Speaker 3: And it is so wild to me to see this
Speaker 3: all playing out again, but in a speed run like
Speaker 3: social media AI slop version of what we got the
Speaker 3: original time.
Speaker 4: So this is twenty four minutes apart, twenty four minutes apart.
Speaker 6: Matt Gates on Oh my God, and yep.
Speaker 4: So on the one hand that he saying I'm so
Speaker 4: proud of this administration in reference to an Alex Ward
Speaker 4: report that Rubio has told European allies the Trump administration's
Speaker 4: preferred option with Iran as a diplomatic deal. Then after
Speaker 4: Trump post on true Social that Forda was bombed, Matt
Speaker 4: Gates says President Trump basically wants this to be like
Speaker 4: the SOLMANI strike one and done, no regime change war.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: For what it's worth, Matt Gates is somebody who when
Speaker 4: he was in Congress was adamantly in opposition to the
Speaker 4: way war powers have been used and abused by presidents
Speaker 4: in the last two decades. And actually the comparison with
Speaker 4: the Bush administration is interesting because I take issue with
Speaker 4: the way that George W.
Speaker 6: Bush used war powers, but at least they.
Speaker 4: Went did some Congress as symbolance of going to Congress, right,
Speaker 4: And now we are looking at the imminent, potentially the
Speaker 4: imminent deaths of American service members in a war that
Speaker 4: we have entered, because we have just dropped massive bombs
Speaker 4: on another country with no congressional authorization. So I just
Speaker 4: want to say I've been checking in with sources. I
Speaker 4: know we all have, but a couple of things from
Speaker 4: just two people closed the administration. One referred to this
Speaker 4: and crystalis gets to the politics that you were talking about.
Speaker 4: One referred to this furiously as a betrayal and went
Speaker 4: on in all kinds of different colorful ways about how
Speaker 4: exactly this is a betrayal. Another says, the staff at
Speaker 4: the White House is split pretty much down the center.
Speaker 6: That's their estimate on what this is.
Speaker 4: A lot of people are being very vocal behind closed
Speaker 4: doors about being a post any use of force.
Speaker 6: In this situation.
Speaker 4: Other people saying even more intense things from that. Some
Speaker 4: are worried that because the NSC was gutted not long ago,
Speaker 4: that you're going to have a lot of resentment in
Speaker 4: the NSC about what happened after the gutting of the NSC.
Speaker 4: So I think that's actually somewhat interesting to the point
Speaker 4: that you were making about. We had that post of
Speaker 4: Michael Tracy posted Douglas McGregor at the Maha Rescue the
Speaker 4: Republic rally on the National Mall a couple of weeks
Speaker 4: before the election, where it was like barefoot hippies and
Speaker 4: evangelical Christians.
Speaker 6: I know, because I won't covered it, and a lot
Speaker 6: of it was about peace. It was a lot of.
Speaker 4: Hope and hope and change optimism about Donald Trump being
Speaker 4: the peace candidate. And that's where you saw the horseshoe
Speaker 4: of the hippies and Maga evangelicals coming together under the
Speaker 4: banner of peace. And I think it is really cheap
Speaker 4: talk to have people in the administration, you know now
Speaker 4: leaking that JD. Vance was reportedly being vocal against it,
Speaker 4: and I think we're going to see a whole lot
Speaker 4: of ass covering through leaks in the next few weeks.
Speaker 6: So I think a lot of that is really cheap.
Speaker 6: It also, though, speaks to how powerful the war machine is.
Speaker 4: This is something Tucker Carlson and Stave Bannon we're talking
Speaker 4: about in their conversations recently that once that thing gets going,
Speaker 4: if Donald Trump and the people around him are cowing
Speaker 4: being cowed by it, it's over.
Speaker 6: Nobody will ever stand up to it.
Speaker 4: And whatever you think of that assessment, I think it's
Speaker 4: wrong because Trump is much more of a warmonger than
Speaker 4: people give him credit for.
Speaker 3: But whatever you think of that assessment, that was their view.
Speaker 1: Look, I mean, it's this is all for another day.
Speaker 1: This is just a much bigger conversation about the failure
Speaker 1: of the quote unquote anti war movement and all of this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, for what it's worth it, I
Speaker 1: don't ever I don't think I ever said Trump would
Speaker 1: be anti war.
Speaker 2: I was expecting him to be extremely pro Israel. Did
Speaker 2: I expect him to bomb Iron?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: And I'll be honest about why.
Speaker 1: The main reason was because there actually was a professional
Speaker 1: project over the last four and a half years to
Speaker 1: basically operationalize quote unquote restraint style of views, and the
Speaker 1: cope from a lot of the people on the inside was, yeah,
Speaker 1: he says a lot of shit to get Miriam Angelsson's endorsement,
Speaker 1: and look, of course you're gonna get you know, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get. Look, Gaza's gone, you know. I think I
Speaker 1: said that. I was like, that's that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: And all of this.
Speaker 1: But in terms of active intervention, you know, the John
Speaker 1: Kelly and the Maddis style people who were actually pushing
Speaker 1: this in the first term, they're out now, and so
Speaker 1: a lot of that influence won't happen, but instead was
Speaker 1: actually is fascinating. There's been an inverse where I can
Speaker 1: back up what Emily is saying. There is a massive
Speaker 1: amount of this administration which is furious about this decision.
Speaker 1: I'm talking all the way from the top to the bottom,
Speaker 1: inside of the White House and inside of the Pentagon,
Speaker 1: of the State Department, the CIA, the OD and I
Speaker 1: in terms of the political appointees. But this time around,
Speaker 1: the pressure has largely been from the exter It's been
Speaker 1: Mark Levin, It's been you know, the foundation defensive democracies.
Speaker 1: It's these major pro Israel groups and specifically coordination. We
Speaker 1: have Fox News right, the Murdoch family. The Israeli government
Speaker 1: is basically working hand and foot with those folks. And
Speaker 1: what they did, and this is really the indictment of
Speaker 1: Trump and actually is going to force me rethink a
Speaker 1: lot of my priors. Is what they did is they
Speaker 1: use the chaos and the lack of inner agency of
Speaker 1: Trump and his sheer accessibility of anybody who would talk
Speaker 1: to to influence a lot of his thinking and to
Speaker 1: actually circumvent so much of his professional staff. So that's
Speaker 1: more of like an inside baseball thing. But I do
Speaker 1: want to return to the intelligence because this is a
Speaker 1: very important story. No matter what Donald Trump says, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you this, and I can back this up, and
Speaker 1: one day the Iran War Study Group will come out
Speaker 1: into you know, as it did in six which showed
Speaker 1: that all the Iraq war intel was bullshit. Well, one
Speaker 1: day this will all come out, So unfortunately I have
Speaker 1: to wait a little bit to see it.
Speaker 2: In writing.
Speaker 1: There is not one scrap of United States intelligence that
Speaker 1: backs up the claim that Iran was actively trying to
Speaker 1: make a nuclear weapon. Now what you're gonna hear a
Speaker 1: lot about is something called highly enriched uranium. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have Scott Horton on the show on Monday. He's gonna
Speaker 1: break all this down in a much better way that
Speaker 1: I can. What they are going to claim is that
Speaker 1: having the capacity, the capacity using that capacity of where
Speaker 1: they are sixty percent, and then the timeline between sixty
Speaker 1: and ninety percent, and then the timeline from there for
Speaker 1: assembly was the reason for the strike. Now remember this,
Speaker 1: This gets to the Tulsi Gabbard point.
Speaker 6: It's up her most recent posts.
Speaker 1: Please do because what has happened is that Tulsi herself
Speaker 1: is now a turncoat. She is the Colon Powell of
Speaker 1: this administration. By faking the way that US intelligence at
Speaker 1: what actually thinks to present a false case for why
Speaker 1: this strike was supposed to happen, if you want to
Speaker 1: put it up Emily.
Speaker 2: So here's what she says.
Speaker 1: She says, the dishonest media is intentionally taking my testimony
Speaker 1: out of context, spreading fake news as a way to
Speaker 1: manufacture division. America has intelligence that Iran is at the
Speaker 1: point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks
Speaker 1: to months. Let me tell you something again. That sentence
Speaker 1: is complete, made up, bullshit. America does not have that
Speaker 1: intelligence Israel.
Speaker 3: She knows that America is intelligence.
Speaker 6: America has. This is how she's doing.
Speaker 4: America has Israeli intelligence according to your reporting, Saga.
Speaker 6: And when she says this is where it gets really.
Speaker 4: Cold and Powell, ye, within weeks two months, produce a
Speaker 4: nuclear weapon within weeks two months. And that's where suddenly
Speaker 4: this becoming a crisis in the last few days doesn't
Speaker 4: even comport with her explicit statement there.
Speaker 3: Yes, she and she has the video there like you
Speaker 3: can listen.
Speaker 1: To it and you can read, you can watch it.
Speaker 3: This is something we were talking about before. This is
Speaker 3: like the new thing is to put on a video
Speaker 3: and put some text with it that completely contradicts the video,
Speaker 3: and just hope nobody watches it and puts two and
Speaker 3: two together like that's how dumb they think that we are.
Speaker 3: That's how dishonest they are. And listen, do you I mean,
Speaker 3: do you all think there will be a single resignation
Speaker 3: from this administration. I mean, if anyone who's going to
Speaker 3: it should be toulsy. This was supposed to be her
Speaker 3: whole bit, like the extent she had any shred of
Speaker 3: a principle left that she was still interesting and maintaining
Speaker 3: this was it. And listen when she didn't support honestly
Speaker 3: Biden getting an out of Afghanistan, which you know was obvious,
Speaker 3: like really unpopular, and she was over on Fox News.
Speaker 3: I think she had a contributorship or whatever. She's conveniently
Speaker 3: absent for the first portion of it, and then she
Speaker 3: went out and you know, wasn't supportive of that. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: you don't actually believe anything. And unfortunately those of us
Speaker 3: who have been saying that proven correct. You believe in
Speaker 3: your own ambition, you're gonna say what you didn't need
Speaker 3: to say to keep your job, and you have no
Speaker 3: shred of integrity. No one should trust a word out
Speaker 3: of your mouth.
Speaker 1: Well, especially on the intelligence. Again, that is not American intelligence,
Speaker 1: It's Israelly intelligence. And by the way, the US intelligence
Speaker 1: community does not agree with that. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you know, just even stepping back even further, this claim
Speaker 1: that sixty percent uranium is just so magically easy to
Speaker 1: turn into ninety percent and then magically easy to put
Speaker 1: on top of a ballistic missile which is then magically
Speaker 1: going to reach.
Speaker 2: New York City.
Speaker 1: What the fuck are we talking about again? Well, Scott
Speaker 1: will explain a lot of this, but I'm telling you
Speaker 1: at a technical level, it is ridiculous even on its
Speaker 1: face if they wanted to, which they do not, and
Speaker 1: instead Trump has filled This.
Speaker 2: Is another thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not just my reporting, it's New York
Speaker 1: Times as well. I didn't I didn't put this in
Speaker 1: there because it was already out. The only two things
Speaker 1: that the America believes that would make you ron produce
Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon is hitting four dough and assassinating the Ayatola.
Speaker 1: So we just fulfilled one of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're trying prophecy, trying for the other one,
Speaker 3: clearly trying for the other one. I mean, and just like,
Speaker 3: can we be adults here and not be children? Why
Speaker 3: do they have this highly enricheranium because they need it
Speaker 3: for leverage to keep Israel from bombing them just for bombing.
Speaker 3: It's a negotiaon to obviously, like clearly, you know, try
Speaker 3: for five seconds to think about how they may be
Speaker 3: viewing things. Israel is wiping Gaza off the map. I mean,
Speaker 3: they've accelerated their level of massacres. These Aid massacres have
Speaker 3: just continued endlessly, day after day after day. They have
Speaker 3: watched Israel turn Gaza into rubble, you know, destroy has
Speaker 3: will like bomb all sorts of the neighborhood. And they're
Speaker 3: supposed to feel cum fiela, Oh sure, we'll just like
Speaker 3: disarm and give up, you know, any sort of credible
Speaker 3: deterrent threat against Israel, nation that has at least ninety
Speaker 3: nuclear weapons and isn't in the non Deliberation treaty like
Speaker 3: and and Iran is supposed to just you know feel
Speaker 3: like they can sit back and be comfy and not
Speaker 3: be threatened at all. Let's be grown ups about this
Speaker 3: situation and understand what we're dealing with here. It's just
Speaker 3: it's so insane to me and I'm already seeing you know,
Speaker 3: all the a number of the MAGA figures who were
Speaker 3: claiming that they were against this. You've already got Charlie
Speaker 3: kirk here out saying, with the weight of the world
Speaker 3: on his shoulders, present Trump acted for the betterment of humanity.
Speaker 3: For the next few hours, Sparis the armchair quarterbacking Saga instead,
Speaker 3: trust our commander in sheet.
Speaker 1: This is, and this is.
Speaker 3: You're so right, it's perfect, You're right.
Speaker 1: Question Yeah, no, And that's it.
Speaker 3: And that's the danger of having a movement built around
Speaker 3: a cult of personality. You've got your little views about
Speaker 3: what this movement is. It doesn't matter what Charlie Kirker,
Speaker 3: Steve Ban or Tucker or anyone else thinks America First
Speaker 3: is or MAGA is or whatever. At the end of the.
Speaker 4: Day, Don Junior, it doesn't matter what Don Junior thinks, No.
Speaker 3: What Trump thinks, what he does. And I don't know
Speaker 3: anyone who hasn't learned that by this point, I don't
Speaker 3: even know what to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and continuing in this vein, I mean, yeah, look,
Speaker 1: MAGA and all that. That's probably the most insignificant story
Speaker 1: at this point, just because I don't think this is
Speaker 1: a political question now, because now this is in the
Speaker 1: hands of the Iranians in the US military. It's not
Speaker 1: even in the hands of Congress. It's in the hands
Speaker 1: of a single man. And the lives of literally millions
Speaker 1: of people are at stake. Remember, mister, evacuate Tehran. So
Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating when I say millions of people, that's right,
Speaker 1: are actually let me here at State.
Speaker 3: Let me put this up, guys. I'll spare you having
Speaker 3: to listen to Sean Hannity, but he's claiming here, I
Speaker 3: just spoke to the president. And how new information appears.
Speaker 3: The US completely obliterated Iran's top secret nuclear facility with
Speaker 3: six huge bunkerbuster bombs to other nuclear sites white Down
Speaker 3: with thirty Tamahawk missiles launched by submarines four hundred miles away. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and there they are. They are gleeful over there, gleeful.
Speaker 4: So RCP reporting that Trump and Nutt and Yahoo spoke
Speaker 4: after the strike was complete, and the US also gave.
Speaker 6: Israel quote unquote heads up before the strike.
Speaker 4: No surprise there, but interesting that, of course Trump immediately
Speaker 4: got on the phone with.
Speaker 2: That is crazy.
Speaker 1: Six is a lot higher actually than initially was telegraphed, Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is I was just looking here at the equivalent
Speaker 1: power of TNT. This is just shitload of TNT here
Speaker 1: that was dropped.
Speaker 6: Then whatsager eighteen million dollars a pop?
Speaker 2: So we actually the production costs I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably the technical that doesn't even keep
Speaker 1: in mind a lot of the research is two point
Speaker 1: four metric tons of high explosive. It doesn't it's not
Speaker 1: worth getting into the point is.
Speaker 2: This is an absolutely massive bomb.
Speaker 1: It's less than a nuclear weapon, but it is still
Speaker 1: like it's very, very significant to be dropped. And then
Speaker 1: they said thirty Tomahawk missiles that were fired.
Speaker 2: Is that what he said?
Speaker 1: Thirty Tomahawk missiles from Sean Hannity, So, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: an extraordinary mess by probably indicates the US Navy was
Speaker 1: involved then in terms of where they were, in terms
Speaker 1: of how they were used. It's it's again you know here,
Speaker 1: it does indicate we've got two carrier strike groups there,
Speaker 1: We've got the straits of war moves which everybody is
Speaker 1: taking a look at. We've got all these bases in
Speaker 1: Iraq and in Syria. You know, the potential here again
Speaker 1: for a serious, serious problem with US forces is very
Speaker 1: high and it will just lead to immediate snapback. The
Speaker 1: congressional question is very important as well. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't expect anything to happen. It's just Thomas Massey and
Speaker 1: forty five other Republicans already, the leaders of both chambers
Speaker 1: speaking of Democrats, sorry, Democrats, yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 3: He's the only Republican who.
Speaker 1: Republican sign on. So Speaker Johnson and Senator and Senator
Speaker 1: Senate my majority leader John Thune have both now approved
Speaker 1: of the strike. So the both two leaders of the
Speaker 1: Houses of Congress are basically saying, hey, great job. They're
Speaker 1: not even saying that you had to come to us
Speaker 1: and to seek approval from Congress. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: And it's just again just demonstrates like we truly like
Speaker 1: our fate is in Trump's hands, and that's insane, and
Speaker 1: it is something now where he has he has created
Speaker 1: this situation. It's a situation where, you know, the domestic
Speaker 1: implications of this. I don't want to undermine either this
Speaker 1: whole you know, this whole like doj anti Semitism thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, by tomorrow, this show and everything, we're saying.
Speaker 2: Is anti semitic.
Speaker 1: As we all point, it's gonna be anti sthetic to
Speaker 1: say that we've declared war on you know, an unconstitutional
Speaker 1: war on Iran. We all know already, Emily, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you'll get this reference famously, Crystal. In two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: David from wrote a National Review piece called Unpatriotic Conservatives
Speaker 1: and one.
Speaker 2: Do you know who he calls that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh good, But do you know who he called the
Speaker 4: anti semitic Robert Novack and drew me Catholicism. But yeah, no,
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter nothing.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, proudly was apparently included in the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five version of Unpatriotic Conservatism from National Review. But
Speaker 1: that's my point is the propaganda effort, like Crystal is saying,
Speaker 1: is gonna be crazy. I'm already seeing Crystal.
Speaker 3: He said, we can't underestimate it either.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, we covered the polling here.
Speaker 1: People don't want to believe it.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: The people will gleed to those television screens. They are
Speaker 1: you know, they're bringing on people again. And look, I
Speaker 1: hate to talk shit about people who served our country.
Speaker 1: But Fox News brings in a guy who's like a
Speaker 1: Delta Force operator, and I'm just I'm the only one
Speaker 1: being like, why, you know, why do we have a
Speaker 1: former like guy who participant terrorism raids talking about a
Speaker 1: B two butt, you know, And he's like, oh, President
Speaker 1: Trump had no choice. That was the immediate reaction, you
Speaker 1: know that I'm watching over there. Yeah, and I was
Speaker 1: like this, this, and I was like, to the untrained,
Speaker 1: year makes sense. But to somebody who you know, knows
Speaker 1: a little bit, You're like, uh, dude, you know what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? You don't know literally anything about
Speaker 1: what's happening here, and you've got Sean Hannity beating his chest.
Speaker 1: Apparently the coverage on CNN is equal. I just saw
Speaker 1: Tommy Veeder and some of the pod save guys be like, Hey,
Speaker 1: could anyone on CNN just like not cheerlead war with Iran?
Speaker 3: Even this is the one time they'll find their way
Speaker 3: to being able to praise Trump. Yeah, I heard Fared
Speaker 3: Zakario is supposed to be one of the intelligent people there,
Speaker 3: being like, oh, I think Trump really tried for the diplomacy.
Speaker 3: It's like, what part of murdering the negotiators makes you
Speaker 3: feel like he really gave the diplomacy his full Try
Speaker 3: not to mention the fact he is the one who
Speaker 3: withdrew from the original diplomatic deal that we were in
Speaker 3: and was working successfully. Thank you very much, But I
Speaker 3: think we should probably wrap this so we can get
Speaker 3: it uploaded and get it out and watch what the
Speaker 3: president has to say. One thing, I have a note here,
Speaker 3: Ronnie and TV is saying no nuclear radiation is expected
Speaker 3: and all enriched uranium has been removed from nuclear facilities
Speaker 3: in advance. That's according to Ronne and State TV. So anyway,
Speaker 3: that's what they're putting out out there. Last thoughts from
Speaker 3: you guys. You know, what do you think the present
Speaker 3: is going to say tonight? What do you expect his remarks,
Speaker 3: what do you expect the framing of his remarks to be,
Speaker 3: and sort of you know, last thoughts on where you
Speaker 3: think we go from here.
Speaker 1: I think he said he's going to say I had
Speaker 1: no choice. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2: As I've said.
Speaker 1: Repeatedly, peace through peace, through strength, Iran, you should give
Speaker 1: up now and we can make a deal. I think
Speaker 1: that's large and obviously it's a fresh Yeah, it's going
Speaker 1: to be very.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and the you know, the oh, now we
Speaker 3: can make a deal diplomacy. Now what did his posts say?
Speaker 3: It's like something about you know, praying, now's the time
Speaker 3: piece as as we're bombing them. Okay, yeah, that makes
Speaker 3: a lot of sense. Last thing, I'll say my final word,
Speaker 3: because I really think this is so important soccer from
Speaker 3: our looking at the polling and Emily, I know you
Speaker 3: will see the same thing. I have never seen an
Speaker 3: issue where it matters more how the issue is framed. Yes,
Speaker 3: if you say, hey, we we got to bomb them
Speaker 3: to keep them from getting a nuke. They're about to
Speaker 3: get a nuke, guess what you get a lot of
Speaker 3: Americans who are like, oh, that sounds we got to
Speaker 3: do that. When the question was framed as should America
Speaker 3: get involved in the war between Israel and Iran? Basically
Speaker 3: like this is something they're doing, people are like, hell, no,
Speaker 3: why would we do that? And I'm sure if you
Speaker 3: ask people, hey, should we do a regime change war
Speaker 3: in Iran, they'd be like are you hot? Like no,
Speaker 3: have you learned absolutely nothing? And so listen, we are
Speaker 3: you know, we're doing all we can. Over here. Independent
Speaker 3: media has much a larger, vastly larger footprint send it
Speaker 3: dead during the Iraq War. But I just I really
Speaker 3: implore people to understand what is happening here. This is
Speaker 3: not about a nuclear weapon. This is about a regime
Speaker 3: change war. And please make sure that you know whoever
Speaker 3: you're talking to speak about it in those terms, because
Speaker 3: that's what's really going on here, and that I know
Speaker 3: the American people will not support.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're exactly right.
Speaker 1: All we can hope is that it fails and somehow
Speaker 1: is stopped in his track.
Speaker 2: Bub I'm not optimistic tonight.
Speaker 3: I'm really all right, guys. Well, we're going to watch
Speaker 3: what the President has to say. You know, We've may
Speaker 3: be doing more breaking news videos over the course of
Speaker 3: the weekend, and we have already planned a monster show
Speaker 3: for Monday. I'll just leave it at that as we're
Speaker 3: nailing in the guest lineup. But the people that you
Speaker 3: will like most want to hear from on this we
Speaker 3: are going to be fortunate to have joining us on Monday.
Speaker 3: So thank you guys, appreciate you all, and we will
Speaker 3: see you soon.